August 18, 2023 • 40 mins
Arnie Spanier and VeeJay Huskey discuss the Miami Dolphins heading into the season with Terron Armstead out with a major injury. Plus, the guys talk shop on the ongoing Michael Oher situation.
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Speaker 5 (00:59):
I'm doing how standing Man? Raid or rock Man? For
the next four hours, filling in for Jason Smith and
his best friend Mike Harmon. It's best best best friend
Mike Harmon, So no, I'm out standing man.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
You know, the guys are like, do you want to,
you know, sign into the studios so you can see
VJ and see us. I'm like, no, not really, I
know what. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know why you
would not want.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
To look at me. But whatever, you you're studying, got whatever.
You're a good looking guy. I know. I'm just like, no,
I really don't need to I think you know. I'm
just wearing a sweatshirt. You guys like to dress up
there in that way. I'm sure you're wearing three piece
suits and all that, but I'm like, no, I really
don't need to see you. Guys. I know what you
look like. I'm one Time's enough for me. I I
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go on the internet and see what you want.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
No, no three piece suits, just a fresh designer team man,
little jewelryes draped around in that little watch on the stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
No, you are into the plank. I want people to
know that.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Yes, I like to drink myself.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Give out your right off the back, give out your
Twitter hands or your ex hands, or whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
They can get you at Twitter. The Big Vanilla Funny,
Big Vanilla funny man on Twitter and also the Big
Vanilla Funny on Instagram.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Why that? Could you make it any longer?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
What is up with man? Listen, listen, don't start with me.
You're the reason why. You're the reason why I changed
my Twitter handle before from Husky Entertainment. Here I am
with two cs, building my own brand, getting good work
and good hours here, good shows here, got our own show,
Martin and VJA on Saturdays from four to seven. Really
it advance in my career. So I said, okay, do
do the business thing. Get some LLCs so on your
(02:32):
social media. You want the LLC to kind of you know,
grow so Husky entertainment. But Husky ean t because entertainment
was too long. They wouldn't let me put it there.
And you you killed me for my Twitter. You really said,
I hate your Twitter. But yeah, get him in a
Husky tea. I'm like, man, So I went back. I said, okay,
you know what, fine, he's an OG. He probably knows.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
So I listen. You know me, I listened to OG's man.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
When OG say something, even if it's harsh, you probably
should take it in and do something with So I said, okay,
I'm doing this whole big Vanilla Funny thing, my stand
up comedy and my films and stuff. So i'might as
well just make it that. And what's funny is it's
grown since it went to Big Vanilla Funny.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
So you helped that, You know what I was. You know,
I did a segment a long time ago when I
first got the Phoenix called that make me famous, you know,
or make me rich. We gotta get you with some
if anybody's listening, you can get VJ in the movies
or stand up or anything like that. I told you
I did a nude scene in one of the American Pieo.
I'm not I'm not kidding around you. No, remember the
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conversation we had. Yeah, I did a nude scene in
one of the offshoots of American Pieo. I was supposed
to be in Final Destination. That was my biggest regret
when I was out in LA I didn't do enough
movies and stuff. So but anyway, we got a lot
to get too. There's a lot of sports going on.
We're gonna be here four hours. Bernie Fratto will be
our insider from Las Vegas. He's gonna join us sixth Tower.
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We'll have a lout to get there. The SEGA will
join us a little bit later on. And now we're
number three. We got the bonus hour. We got a
lot of football to get to, you know, obviously preseason
week two. Before we even get to that, I texted
you earlier today because obviously we know a couple of
weeks ago Miami lost Jalen Ramsey for if not the
whole season, better part of the season, he'll be now
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Armstead turn Armstead goes down today and I immediately went
to a text you and said, that's it. Season's over
over ov R with the space between between each letter,
I goes over. And of course plank H, my partner
on Sunday, texted me and you know, he was giving
me a rough time that goodness though he's not gonna
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need surgery. But what kind of Dolphin fan are you? Man?
Not gonna have been a major injury. I hate Dolphin
fans that are like, good, no big deal, no big deal,
it's not gonna you know, man, that would have been
a big deal. Man, We're going down one at a time.
It's killing me, you know, it's it's killing me.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The reason why it's no big deal because we didn't
know what the injury was yet, and when other players
speaking talking, they go, look, hey.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
He I talked to him.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
He said, he's it's just it was a Tarik Hill
Tygrek Hill said yeah, he told me. Look, he said,
but he got carted off a car.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
They do that.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
They do that. That's that's all precaution.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Now carting off five years and in previous that meant
something really bad. I think over the last five years
in the NFL, especially in training camps, we've seen so
many carting offs and it's a bruis knee, a strained calf.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It was Joe Burrow was carted off. It was a
right right, it was. It was a calf, and I
think now he had a serious that's gonna keep him
out for a while.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I know, but I still think now that we're they're
doing bigger contracts, there's more money, there's you know, the
league is a lot more fragile. You can't hit full
pads all the time now, every precaution, for every dollar
and red penny you put into a player, I see
franchises now all adopting the same thesis, souf no, no, no, hey,
can you stand up?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Don't worry about it. Get the car. What's the car
guy there for?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Send over there in the shade, Drinka, gatoray, get get
get over here, get picked up our our start tis
quarterback two hundred plus million, and let's will come in
and let's no no walk in. So I think when
we hear cart it off, people panic. But now when
we hear cart office, okay, let's just see what it is. Guys,
they car everybody off.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
That is why Jay it was. It was a little
bit more than that, at least didn't seem like it.
They were talking. The first thing they said was good news.
He's not gonna need surgery. Whoa whoa surgery? I hey,
you gotta slow it down here. I thought you're gonna
tell me, okay, it's just gonna be a couple of weeks.
You started scaring me when you're using the S word
like that to throw it out, surgery. It didn't occur
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to me that that's what it was gonna be, you
know what I mean. Jobs. But I did get a
little nervous because that would have been a death blow
to Miami. That that could have been really bad if
they would have gonna gone ahead and lost him you
know what I mean. That would hurt.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, that would have hurt tremendously.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
We know that.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I've been telling everybody all summer long. I'm tempering my
expectations for my beloved Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Oh no, no, no, that's why, that's why, that's why
I hate you. Let me explain it. I know, I
know you.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I know you hate me and love me at the
same time. It's it's like being it's like being mid
and a dime at the same time. You know what
I'm saying. It works for some people. But what I'm
realizing this year is we are solid as any roster
in the league at every single level on the field
except the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
And they've tried and they've tried to fix it. When
we went and got Armstead.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
People have to remember he only played nine games the
previous year, so he'd already had some injury questions when
he was in New Orleans. But what were you gonna
do with your Miami You need a tackle. He's the
big fish in the free agent. If we don't go
get him, our lines even worse than it was coming
into that next season.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Then it was the previous year.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Austin Jackson former number eighteen overall pick, first round out
of USC. Who I saw my own eyes. He never
already jumped off the field. To me, there was never
a time I went to a USC game and watched
Austin Jackson play tackle and go, man, he's mauling. Oh man,
Look how he's given the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
So much time went in the first round.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
It was like a almost like a Scooby Dude reaction, like, uh, okay,
we do need a lineman. We do have two first
round picks. You're spending the late teen win on the lineman. Okay, yeah,
you can put the film the highlights on. It showed
me all the good stuff, of course, but all right,
so that's been a problem with him, the kid out
in order Dain, it's just been a turnstyle and we
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need aren't that there because he plays that left side
and he's got to help protect two of this year
with the concussion stuff, we had no choice but to
go get the guy.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
But this is what he is.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
He missed time last year.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Arnie. You know, I was gonna say I and we'll
get to some stuff that we're looking forward to in
week two of the preseason. But I was I was
a little bit in tears there. When I saw the
Jets get Dovin Cook, I'm like, oh no, that's that
closes the gap. I don't care what they say about
running backs, and it's not worth a half a point
or any any blowdy on that that that closed the
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gap a little bit more. You know, I thought the
Dolphins and the bill were the two teams that were
gonna find it out for the division. Now I'm thinking
maybe it could be a three team race. All I
know is that the Patriots will be in the last
place for sure. I don't care if they designed Ezekiel.
We'll get to that later on. But I didn't like
the Dalvin Cook siding for being a Miami fan that
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really really helped the Jets.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
You know, the one fan I won't be is the
fan that wanted him, and then when he signed somewhere else,
it's like, oh, I didn't want him anyway. I made
sure that I put my pinions out on my show
and other shows and the platforms leading up to it.
When free agency first started and he and we knew
he was gonna get let go by Minnesota, I said, okay,
let when he just let go, we're gonna cut Byron Jones.
That's gonna save us the thirty one million. We'll have
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some money to play other players. And he's a guy
they should go get. But as time went on, and
as he went to visit Miami and there was a
deal that supposedly was out there, then Boomer science and
puts out that there's been a seven million dollar deal
on the table for him in Minnesota. Like Minnesota wanted
to bring him back, just not at the price that
he wanted. So he had another deal in you know,
supposedly the Miami dude, I was out there. But as
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time goes on, Arnie, you have to be with the team.
You gotta be in the playbook. You gotta be with
the guys. You gotta you gotta form the camaraderie. And
as time continue to grow on, and then when he
went up to the Jets camp, it's like I got
on ready and say, you know what, Look, I would
still love to have him, but if you're not gonna
sign by now, we're about to start, like we gotta
get going. We can't wait on you. I like our
running back room. I like Moster, I like Wilson and
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this kid a chain, this kid out of Texas A
and M.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, I hear about that. You know, Blake was telling
me about man.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, Man, he could be Chris Johnson if you remember
who CJ. Two K was for the Titans. He has
that type of breakaway speed, that type of balance, and
he's every coach, every player is praising him. Now I
know it's training camp. He looked great in the preseason game. Now,
every time he touched the ball, you can see the
first step explosion. He's like a Porsch. He goes He
don't go one, two, three four, he goes one three five.
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He's that type of speed which fits what we do there.
So uh, they can have him man. And and I'm
not I'm a Florida State kind of side chick fan.
Michigan's my team, but I've always had a crushed on
Florida State, so I liked him, and I was a
Families in Minnesota, so I'm not gonna wish him bad
and listen, take them. I still think we're a better
football team. I think the Jets are in trouble because
of their offensive line, and I think their defense can't
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replicate what it did last year. But we'll find all
that out. But as far as Dalvin Cook is concerned,
it's cool. He wanted to go there. He took the
most money obviously.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
It also told me Arnie that Miami didn't offer him
that contract because if they didn't offer him that contract,
he'd have been signed in Miami. So maybe it was
four or five million somewhere in that range, and he
was just waiting to get a better deal. You know,
Jets struck to deal with him, so you know, you know,
hats off, kudos, So he made money. So I'm never
mad at the brother forgetting his bread.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I don't think it's because they were gonna get Jonathan
Taylor or anything like that, or maybe there was a
backup plan. So I was I thought maybe they were
Maybe they're just happy with what they have, like you're
happy with the running back situation.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, I like our I like our running back room
because at the end of the day, if you can't block,
it doesn't matter who's it running back. So unless our
line gets better shows improvement, it doesn't. Yeah, he'll make
some plays himself, but you can't live off that for
eighteen games seventeen game, Excuse me, you can't live off that.
He's not Barry Sanders. He's not Bo Jackson, you know
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what I'm saying, Like those guys can live off a
career of making plays on their own whenever they had
to do it, good line or bad line. He's not
that guy. So in less our line blocks than even
the backs we got ere in trouble.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
By the way, Twitter the best way to get a
hold of us during the show at Big There, I
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Speaker 5 (12:26):
Big Vanilla Funny there you go.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
See you need to change that.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
God, he you know I'm not changing. I'm not changing again.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
That's it. Why did you just go with something like
at VJ or something like that?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yours a stinking genius, Like what stick?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
A genius one? But all you have to do is
put in a couple of letters and it comes in
right away. You know what I mean? Well, they were
too lazy to scroll. That's not my problem. By the way,
Cleveland leads Philadelphia. The only game tonight eighteen ten. Do
you get into preseason that you watch this was plank.
It means one of those guys like I get off
my lot. It means nothing. I don't care. Jason Martin
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when I field in the last Saturday, I figure it was.
He's like, no, it means nothing. I don't care. It's boring,
you know. And you know he was just so anti preseason,
and I'm I'm probably the completely the other way. I
I put probably a little bit more stock in it
today should but I love watching it. I like it
me too.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I watch i DV as you know on the DVR
king here are sports Radio. I watch every every preseason game,
at least until deep in the fourth quarter because I'm
a guy that likes to be ahead of the curve
on certain players. And I like to find twos, twos
that you could talk about in August and September that
these teams will need in December and January because injuries
are inevitable.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So there's some twos.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I've seen him, like, hey man, that backup linebacker right there,
they lose a linebacker, They're okay because that kid can
slot right in and play. You see things like that
in preseason. That's why I'm I'm I'm committed to it, right.
That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
You know, You're like Plank, But in college Plank watches
all the you know, the college games, and he does
stuff that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Oh yeah, I watch anywhere DVR. I'm watching away from
eight to nine college games a Saturday easily.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Oh yeah, no college, i'day I'm watching all the games.
I got to set up. I'm all in on that.
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spanning here. When we get back, I want to talk
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on with Jonathan Taylor, what's going on with Kareem mart
what's going on with Josh Jacobs and some of the
other guys out there. We'll get to that all coming
up next right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
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Speaker 4 (14:54):
I don't know whether jumping in talk what kind of
music do you playing? Are you kidding me? That's then yo,
tell them, Yo, tell them tell him Alex, are you
kidding me? There? As jay Z Mike Jack right, I know,
but it's kind of tough for me to jump in
and say VJ Husky And for the guys, of course,
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Jason spent tread Mike Harmon and then I got to
tell you we're live at tyrock dot com Studios. Uh,
so we appreciate your tuning on it. I should have
opened this show in the first segment about this, so
my apologies. I just want to get to this. I
was watching the game on the NFL network channel. Uh
Tyree Cleveland, the wide receiver landed hard and awkwardly on
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his head trying to make a catch. They stopped the game,
I don't know for it seemed like five or ten
minutes they did as I was watching this. They did
remove him on a stretcher and they brought him into
obviously the locker room. I don't know if they took
him to the hospital. Weft to get further update. I'm
not going to speculate, but obviously it didn't have the
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you know, the immediacy like we saw last year. So
we're gonna keep your eye on that. If you see
anything VJ. Please let me know. We'll see what's going
on with Tyree Cleveland and we'll see if he's gonna
be okay.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
All right, my friend, no do I'll definitely keep that.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Let me let me know what's going on there. We're
in for the guy inside, Jason Smith and his best
tread Mike Carmon. They got to fill in earlier. So
in a way, so who do they fill in for?
Doug Gottliebs.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
I think they were either for Gottlieb or for Dan Patrick.
They might have been in for Patrick, so technically then
we were in for Dan Patrick.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Doug gottli Well, Scott Leeb fills in for Dan Patrick
and Colin Coward, so technically, technically we're filling in for
those guys. See, this is why I'm not allowed in
the studio. I'm not allowed anywhere near Los Angeles and
the studios or anything like that. But if if the
Expo's ever come back, I'm I'm their guy at Fox
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Sports Radio Way Expos.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Wow, what are you gonna You're gonna throw the whalers
in there next?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
No, No, I'm not far from Montreal. I'm only like
an hour and a half from andreal that. Wow. Yeah,
I'm far from everybody for crying out loud, all right, VJ.
A couple of things, obviously, signings from earlier this week.
I wasn't why I filled in a little bit, but
I want to start with Ezekiel Elliott to the Patriots.
You know, maybe two three years ago this might have
scared me, and I'm like, oh boy, Tom Brady's gonna
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have that running back that he's always wanted. Can you
even tell me to pull up and tell me all
the great running backs in Patriot history. It's going to
be a thin, thin list, my friend. Yeah it is.
It is going to be real thin now. I don't
know how much more Ezekiel Elliot's got in the tank.
I don't think it's much at all. I don't think
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this is really going to help the Patriots all that much.
I think it helps them slightly, but I still think
the Patriots are destined for last. I know we're on
in Boston on the Sports Hub, so it's gonna be
a long year for Patriot fans out there. Look, maybe
a Zeke, maybe Zeke surprise me. And you know, I
have a lot left and that certainly will help back jobs.
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No doubt about that, but I don't see it. So
I still see the last place for the Patriots that
you're they they don't have any wow factors. Yeah, they
don't have anybody that's going to, you know, come up
with that big play other than maybe Zeke.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Now, yeah, Zeke is done. But I've been saying Zeke's
been done for two years. Yeah, yeah, zeg Zeke's been done.
Once got his money, there's been contract was out like
four year years ago, four years ago. It was before
I want to say, before COVID and once.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
He got his deal.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
You can just put the tape on. Don't don't point
out numbers them, you don't. Don't tell me about average
jar per carrying all of that.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Put the tape on.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Is the lean the same way is the is the
is the explosiveness, the same way. I watched them go
down with one or two hits way too many times
when I didn't see that when he was fighting for
his money. I watched Zeke break a run and bounce
to the outside and then Joh got a bounce without
lowering the shoulder. I didn't see that from Zeke before
he got his money. So I pay attention to little
things like that, And once I saw that's like, yeah,
you're still getting some yards, but it's gonna klin year
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after year after year. And then last year last summer,
if you remember, I said, this is his last year
with Dallas. They're cutting him after this year. They can't
they can't keep me. He's not productive. So fast forward
to what I think he'll be with the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Nothing.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Here's my thing with this with the Patriots. This was
the head scratcher for me. Bill Belichick never never really
goes after veterans that are over the hill, and it'd
be successful there. He's tried it with Cam Newton and
everybody knows I love Cam. He tried to spread.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
He tried it with OO. He tried it with Reggie Wayne.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Remember when they brought Reggie Wayne in and people were like,
oh my god, they got Reggie Wayne. It's like, yeah,
but you got after ten year decade playing with Peyton Manning,
Reggie Wayne. You didn't get the Reggie Wayne of five
six years ago. Those guys didn't even never make the
team except for Cam. They need to start a quarterback,
so of course Cam was there, but it was just
one year and they moved on from hims. I think
this was a let's kick the tires. Yeah, we'll write
the deal down. I'm pretty sure if they cut him
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before the season start, which I think is very very possible,
all it's gonna take is one fumble or one miss
pickup blitz. Bill doesn't play around, especially with a veteran
that's Arnie. So that's what that was the head scratcher
to me. It's like, Bill normally doesn't do this. He's
famous for cutting the guy year two early rather than
a year too late. Remember what he did the lawyer murloy,
Like the day before, like wait, the weekend before opening kickoff,
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they go to Buffalo and they get handed, They get
trounced at Buffalo. It was like, see just what he knows.
He's got other guys there. It's gonna take a few
weeks in a few games for these guys to get gone.
But he knew what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Then.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
He's done this before with other veterans. So that was
the head scratching for me. I'd be surprised he makes
any mistakes in the preseason game. Arnie. I'd be surprised
he's on the opening day roster.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
All right. A couple of things. First of all, good
news are but he Berney Fred Jordan sixth hour texted
me and said, Tyreek Cleveland has movement in all extremities.
So thank god that he's going to be okay. So
that's the first thing that is an update on matter,
because I'm sorry I had missed it, so I didn't
see that on Twitter. So I'm glad to get that now.
As for the Patriots and Bill Belichick, what happens if
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they're destined now for six and eleven, seven to ten season,
and you're right, he usually doesn't go for the aging veteran.
He's more, i'll cut you a year before. Yeah, then
i'll cut you a year late. Now, granted these running
backs don't cous a heck of a lot of money.
Is this the desperation? Because if he finishes with six
or seven wins? Could this really be the last year?
Bill Belichick? Cook? Nothing is forever. Tom Brady isn't forever.
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And I'm not saying retire from the NFL. If he
moves out from the Patriots, maybe coaches another team, I
don't know. Is this gonna be the end? Remember Tom
Brady's buying into the Raiders. Could that be a possibility.
Is this gonna be the end of Bill Belichick with
the Patrios if he has a losing season.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
First of all, I love that little how you slid
that Raiders thing in there, because I wasn't even thinking
that that's why.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
See, that's why you like to do shows with the Ogs.
That's why you like to do shows with the og.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
That was because now you got my mind when it's like,
hold up, yeah, because I'm predicting that they're gonna fire
Josh after this year, so they're gonna have an open
coaching Kansas City opened for the position excuse me for
the for the Vegas Raiders. So absolutely yes. So no,
I like that right there, man. But no, I don't
think this is the end for Belichick. I think Belichick
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has earned all his time. I think Belichick has earned
the right to coach there as long as he wants.
I don't I mean, who you're gonna move on to,
You're gonna fire Belichick and move on to somebody else.
I don't think he will retire, and I don't know
if he'll go coach another team. I think he's there
permanently until he decides he's done. And I think he's
at the point now also, RD I'm.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Sorry, just gone.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
I think Bill Belichick's also at the point right now
that he ain't got nothing to prove that nobody in
the football world. People could talk about the spy gate
and the Flaygate and all that, at the end of
the day, his fingers still got those big ass rings
on him. At the end of the day they do.
So with that being said, he I think this at
this point he's just doing it for because he really
loves coaching football.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
This is his life.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
What else is he gonna go do?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Well, But it's maybe not his decision because as the
team now goes from Robert Kraft to his son, you
always know that when you inherit that just like Al
Davis and his son getting the team, you want to
put your own stamp. You want to put your own
name on the team. Does he say, you know what, Billy,
you had a great run with my father. There's a
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new regime. I'm now taking over, and I'm gonna start
calling the shots. We got rid of Tom Brady and
now we're gonna get a new coach and we're gonna
start the Patriots from ground level and start a whole
new thing you see. See that is a possibility or.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
No, yeah, only if he's smart enough to say, listen,
we'll give it a few more We'll give it another
year or two.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
How many years is Belichick out here? He's up there
in age, I know.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
But if I'm the son, I go to Belichick and say, listen,
we do want to move on eventually. I'll give you
the opportunity, though, to find to find your successor I'll
give you the opportunity because I trust your judgment, and
we'll move forward with that regime and that coaching regime.
If he's a smart If he's smart, and that's what
he would do if he wants to beat a young
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hot shot is mine now, daddy, he's gone, I'm doing
it my way. Oh okay, Buss Junior, Okay, stein Bringer,
Okay Steinbringer Juniors, Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Go ahead. Yeah, that's what they do.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah, exactly. But that's what I'm saying. That's the mistake
they make. What they should do is go to somebody
that was from the older regime and say, hey, for
the next few years, could you help me out please,
that's humble man, could.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You help me out please? How many of those guys
are gonna say no, you want to put your but
you want to put your own stamp of approval on it.
And well, now Twitter Scott, he says, nothing like the
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earlier this weekend OUs in the running back position. We'll
get to that. Gotta get to the Jets and Dalve
and Cook all that. But first I gotta work tonight.
So you know what that means, don't you? That means
the Sager's gotta work tonight. Let's see what's Teddays got
Buddy's team the Sager last Thursday? You were not here
last Thursday? Right, I don't know, Yes, I what I was?
When was I fill it in? I was always there Friday,
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Saturday and Sunday. All right, you know what I'm gonna
give you Sunday off to show you what I'm a
good guy. I X You're welcome. Don't don't come in Sunday.
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I already got it off.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
But thank you. Oh you see, I already pulled it.
I already pulled strings.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I do like that.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I always believe he has powered these hallways. By the way,
the Eagles announced that the receiver Tyree Cleveland has a
neck injury and yes movement in all his extremities. After
the injury in the exhibition at Philly tonight. He had
a hard landing in the third quarter on a play,
and that game's still going here at this late hour
because they've had another recently injury delay in the game
(26:20):
for an Eagles defensive tackle from the Texas Longhorns, Moro
Ojomo gets carted off in a stretch on a stretcher.
He did give it the thumbs up and a wave
on the way off. Right now, about six and a
half minutes to go fourth quarter at Philly, it's Cleveland
in the lead. However, Philly has just thrown a touchdown pass,
so for the moment it's eighteen sixteen in the fourth
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they could go for two and tie.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I wait four, I'm not gonna wa I need a
touch out of guy, he laid four.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Keep in mind there's no such thing as overtime in
NFL for season anymore. The quarterback for the first half
of the Browns tonight was UCLA rookie Dorian Thompson was great,
yes again again, one hundred and sixty four yards passing.
He was thirteen of twenty five through the air. The
first half quarterback for the Eagles was Marcus Mariota eighty
(27:08):
six yards passing and one interception. We had two more
exhibitions come Friday. Most NFL teams play this Saturday. Titans
rookie quarterback Will Levis left practice with a lower body injury.
Tennessee had joint practices with Minnesota Dolphins. Tackle toront Armstead
was carted off with a lower leg injury. NFL network
says he should be ready for Week one. Seattle running
(27:30):
back Kenneth Walker returned to full practice after a groin
injury three weeks ago. Lions wide receiver i'm and ross
Saint Brown is due to return to practice next week
after an ankle injury. Detroit wide receiver Jamison Williams, though
with a bad hamstring, could miss the preseason and he
suspended for the first six regular season games as well.
The Raven signed defensive back Ronald Darby since Marlon Humphrey
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will miss about the next month with a foot injury.
Running Back Briefsall officially returned to Jets practice today. Tampa
Bay confirmed that wide receiver Russell Gage is out for
the year with a torn pateller tendon.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Update.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Two point pass is good at Philadelphia. The Eagles have
tied the game with Cleveland eighteen eighteen, just over six
minutes to go. To Major League Baseball. We have two
late games. Diamondbacks lead two to nothing at San Diego.
Top of the fifth, Tommy Famm with a two run
homer off Padre starter Rich Hill. The Dodgers and Brewers
are scoreless. Bottom of the second. That's Lance Lynn against
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Milwaukee's Corbyn Burns. The Dodgers have a ten game winning
streak on the line. Detroit at Cleveland reigned out. The
Mets at Saint Louis. Game was on Fox TV tonight.
Mets win four to two. Pete Alonzo with his thirty
seventh home run victories for Seattle and Washington.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Back to you, all right, thanks a lot of course. VJ. Husky,
Arnie Span you're in for the guys, Jason Smith and
his best friend Mike Carmon. You could go ahead and
tweet us at Big Vanilla funny. I'm at stinking Genius one.
You know, I know I wanted to talk about some
of the other signings earlier this week, and we will
do that. We also got Vj's one seventeen. Kase you
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don't know what that is. VJ. Tobody what his Vj's
one seventeen. We're gonna get to the last segment, well.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Quick backstory on Martin VJ. He read me a list
of one hundred NFL predictions that some guy from sports
illustrator forget the gentleman's name, had to put out there.
But they what they did is they read everything that
went against the Dolphins to me and all the other teams.
So the more they kept reading, the more pissed off
I kept getting. And I was like, okay, you know what.
Chris Purfett jumps in and he goes, you guys better
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watch it.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
VJ.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I'll go home and do one oh one. I said,
you know what, you damn right I will. But what
I did is, I said, you know, I'm gonna do
one seventeen since seventeen was my football number. So what
I did is I've broken down all the predictions I
possibly could, every team, big players, category statistics, and everything,
one hundred and seventeen Uncle Vj's one hundred and seventeen
NFL predictions for the twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
So if there's any team, any player coach you want
to hear about, you could tweet us and a VJ
will get it to us. In the last segment, Big
Vanilla Funny at stinking genius one and we'll get to
that in about ten minutes from now. You know, I
did want to ask you. I know we're not the first,
you know, word on this, and we're certainly not going
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to be the last about the Michael Orr situation. And
I don't want to go through the whole money. We
know that the two Weas are saying they only got
like fourteen or fifteen thousand. Michael Or disputes that big time.
You know, there's you know you hear numbers anywhere between
hundreds of thousands of dollars for each member of the family.
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Just one thing. I wanted to get to what I
don't understand. Usually I follow the money trail on who's
telling the truth From what I understand, and not too
many people keep don't bring this up. The two Wees
sold their company right when Michael was about what seventeen
or eighteen years old, actually before Michael came to live
with them, for something in the neighborhood of two hundred
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and twenty five million dollars. From what I understand now
and how many years ago was this twenty years ago?
Two hundred and twenty five million dollars is back then
is what three four hundred million? Now do you do it?
Could be? Do do you really need to steal a
young man's What are they saying four million or whatever
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it is when you just got two hundred and twenty
five million? Does that? Does that make Sensebody? Is that
the wrong way to look at this? VJ? I don't know.
How do you see this whole thing? That's driving me crazy.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
It's driving me crazy too, because I'm seeing too many
opinions where he is now you know, they are now
the victim. The two weeks are now the victim, right right?
That that really takes me off.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Because, yeah, I gotta tell you, I'm starting to believe
that maybe they're telling the truth. I'm now you know,
why is it taking so long? They said he just
found out? Now I've gone back and forth on this
a little bit. No, because I and here's my theory
on why it's taking so long. They saying he tried
to shake us down. Okay, right, well your your verbiage
you're using as a shakedown. He may say, yeah, I
want to hit him and said, listen, I found this out.
(31:55):
You know, won't you gos go ahead and cut me my?
You know, cut me what you owe me, pay me
back what you owe me, a what you stole from me? Okay, no, fine,
I'll go public with it. Okay, let me call him again. Hey, listen,
I'm gonna go public. I'm trying to be cool about this.
You guys know what you did. YadA, YadA, YadA. They're
thrombing their nose. I don't know, we're not.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I don't know what the conversations are. But when I
hear shakedown, it's like, what do you do? What is he?
He's not He's not the mob. This isn't the Gambino
family from the seventies in New York City. He's not
shaking you down. He's finding out what's going on, and
he's trying to come to you and tell you about
it and say, Okay, you owe me this, pay me
what you owe me.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
That's how this kind of shakes out to me.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
But even before that, are you why are you scamming
an eighteen year old kid and making him think that
you're adopting him when you're not adopting him?
Speaker 4 (32:38):
No? No, but they even in the book, in the
movie that he knew. It was said in the book,
I believe that he knew there wasn't going to be
an adoption from from what it was saying. You know,
from what it was said.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
As far as after the fact, there was a point
where Theavid, from what I'm understanding, from what I've seen
enough and if I've missed something, listen, people could tweet
me all day long again he bring it up. I'm
I can change my mind to different information. But everything
I've seen is yes, he said he knew, but not
at the point of when it was happening. Now here's
the there you go. You know, you feel what I'm saying. So, yeah,
(33:10):
I knew about that. I'm not just finding that out now. Yes,
I knew about that because I wrote about it in
my book. But at the end of the day, it's
still a scam. You still with his conservators, conservators where
you are in charge of his business deals.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
You still got two hundred and fifty k a piece
for the movie. He didn't get anything. But why that money?
Would They made over two hundred million dollars and you'd
have to ask them, brother, that's what that is.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I don't have man, that's like me making hundreds of
millions of dollars and take it one hundred dollars bill
out of your wallet or greed.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Greed doesn't make sense, you know what, It doesn't make sense,
but greed is powerful, Arnie. Why do people that's got
five million want ten million, ten million, one twenty fifty million,
one hundred, one hundred. What do want to you want
to be billionaires?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Like? When?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
When is enough enough? When do you have enough money?
That's what greed is, bro right right right?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Uh? Obviously you want to get in Big Vanilla Funny.
I'm mistaking you one. Vj's gonna come back. Vja's one seventeen.
Any player, any team you want to hear about, just
tweet it on in and VJ will give you his
notes and tell you what's gonna happen to that player
and that team At Big Vanilla Funny. I'm in Sticker
Genius one. This is Fox Sports or Radio.
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The iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. All Right,
good evening, everybody, j Husky, Arnie Span your live at
the tyreck dot Com studios in for the guys Jason
Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon. All right, we
gotta get the vj's one seventeen, one hundred and seventeen predictions.
(35:16):
How old did it take you to write stuff like that?
Out for crying out loud?
Speaker 5 (35:19):
First of all, this is feel good music right here.
Thank you, Alex.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
This has felt this ma. I know you, I know
you do.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Every time I come into your hear bro, you look
out for me and I appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Eh, yeah, everybody dance. I love eighties music.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Man, All right?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Uh took me.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I started that day when that show happened on Martin
and VJ was early July. So I went home that
night and I broke out a brand new composition pad
because I get him at the Dollar Tree. I'd be
buying them like ten at a time, because, as you see,
when I post stuff I write, I'm an old school man.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I write stuff out. I don't. I don't use my
notepad on my phone.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I'm not a type and I'm not. I don't. I
don't have.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Files on my laptop I have. I have fifty sixty
seventy notebooks and note pass scattered around my house with
all types of sports talk stuff and all types of
comedy stuff that I've been working on for a year.
So went home, broke out a brand new one man
and just started. And the way I did it is
I named all the teams, and then I named all
the major categories, and then I even made a fantasy category.
(36:20):
And then I just went through each team and I
just picked different than I looked at over an unders lines, player,
player props, future stuff like that. Coaches I think are
gonna last, teams I think are gonna finish bad, the surprises,
things like that, And I just really dug into and
I worked on it. You know, every night, about two hours,
I always sit down, and it's the last thing I
do when I'm watching whatever's on my DV or whatever
sports I break out the notebook and I start, you know,
(36:41):
researching on the computer and putting it together. Man, So
I'm proud of it.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I'll tell you what with the Browns missing a field
goal with one fifty two left of the score tied
of eighteen, let's start with the Browns and the Shawn Watson.
I'm dying to know where you think they're going to finish.
I've died to know where you think what kind of
years the Sean Watson's gonna have paid attention to him?
Does he bobs back? Finally? I mean last year was
a throwaway at the end of the year. Now we'll
have a full year under his belt. What are the
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Browns do? What is DeShawn Watson?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Though?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
That's a gooon right there. That's actually number eight on
the list.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
So, with Uncle Vj's one hundred and seventeen vestment Sports
NFL prediction for the twenty twenty three seasons, I have
Deshaun Watson lifting the Browns passing offense ten spots from
twenty two what it was in twenty twenty two to.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Twelfth or higher.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Last year they only averaged two hundred and six two
hugi to two point six yards per game. I think
with Deshaun Watson a whole offseason, good receivers, great offensive line,
great running game, great defense. Like that's a football team
no one's talking about. And I understand why we don't
have to rehash it. We know why people kind of
want to stay away from the Cleveland Browns, and that's fine.
(37:49):
I don't write the I didn't write the book, but
I read it. You know what I'm saying. I didn't
make the game, aren't.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
They were the worst teaming that the vision Here here's
the flip side to that, though.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Somebody's finishing in that division. And I'll give you guys
a little spoiler. If you want to know about the Steelers,
it will not be the Pittsburgh Steelers this year. They
will not finish last in that division. So that means
either the Ravens they have Lamar with a new contract,
obj the Cincinnati Bengals. They've been to the AFC Championship
Game multiple times. They're three to one against the Chiefs.
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One of those three teams are going to finish.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Slo I don't.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
I'm telling you, I don't know. Think about also too,
something else. They had the seventh best rushing attack last year. Okay,
that was six in the league. That's one forty six
a game on the ground. That's the over under Vegas
has given them. I think that's the over. I'm taking
the over on their rushing attack being more than one
forty six a Sunday. That opens up play action pass.
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Deshaun Watson is good. Whether people like them or not.
Far the transgressions and stuff that happens, this could be
a big year for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
All Right, I'll tell you what. Since they're playing the
Philadelphia Eagles. Like I said, score tight to eighteen, one
thirty nine left in the game. What about the figals?
Do we just paid so men to go back to
the super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
I want to pencil them in to go back to
the super Bowl so bad. Because I am such a
Jalen Hurts fan since he was at Alabama, I thought
he got a raw deal even though he was a Dolphin.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I thought he would be a better pro. I've said
that on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
I'm excited for what they bought in all the pieces
they have on defense, great coaching, great quarterback.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Think he wins the MVP this year.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
But when I found the stat there are only two
teams in the last thirty years that have gone back
to the Super Bowl after losing. That's the nineteen Patriots
and the ninety three Bills.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
That's it. When you lose, you do not get back.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
It's gotta be broken at some point, right Arnie, It's
gotta be broken again at some point this run and
another team added back to it. I'm giving them the
Super Bowl out of the NFC. Their super Bowl chances
are a plus six fifty the NFC. The NFC champ
is a plus two fifty right there, and I think
Jalen Hurts wins the MVP. Holmes plus seven hundred, Joe
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Burrow is a plus seven fifty, Josh Allen is a
plus eight hundred. Jalen Hurts is sitting at a plus
eleven hundred. Guys, throw fifty to seventy five bucks on it.
You'll fake me in January.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
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You know, the guys are like, do you want to,
you know, sign into the studios so you can see
VJ and see us. I'm like, no, not really, I
know what. I don't know. I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know why you
would not want.
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To look at me. But whatever, you you're studying, got whatever.
You're a good looking guy. I know. I'm just like, no,
I really don't need to I think you know. I'm
just wearing a sweatshirt. You guys like to dress up
there in that way. I'm sure you're wearing three piece
suits and all that, but I'm like, no, I really
don't need to see you. Guys. I know what you
look like. I'm one Time's enough for me. I I
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No, no three piece suits, just a fresh designer team man,
little jewelryes draped around in that little watch on the stuff.
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No, you are into the plank. I want people to
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Give out your right off the back, give out your
Twitter hands or your ex hands, or whatever it is.
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They can get you at Twitter. The Big Vanilla Funny,
Big Vanilla funny man on Twitter and also the Big
Vanilla Funny on Instagram.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Why that? Could you make it any longer?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
What is up with man? Listen, listen, don't start with me.
You're the reason why. You're the reason why I changed
my Twitter handle before from Husky Entertainment. Here I am
with two cs, building my own brand, getting good work
and good hours here, good shows here, got our own show,
Martin and VJA on Saturdays from four to seven. Really
it advance in my career. So I said, okay, do
do the business thing. Get some LLCs so on your
(02:32):
social media. You want the LLC to kind of you know,
grow so Husky entertainment. But Husky ean t because entertainment
was too long. They wouldn't let me put it there.
And you you killed me for my Twitter. You really said,
I hate your Twitter. But yeah, get him in a
Husky tea. I'm like, man, So I went back. I said, okay,
you know what, fine, he's an OG. He probably knows.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
So I listen. You know me, I listened to OG's man.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
When OG say something, even if it's harsh, you probably
should take it in and do something with So I said, okay,
I'm doing this whole big Vanilla Funny thing, my stand
up comedy and my films and stuff. So i'might as
well just make it that. And what's funny is it's
grown since it went to Big Vanilla Funny.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
So you helped that, You know what I was. You know,
I did a segment a long time ago when I
first got the Phoenix called that make me famous, you know,
or make me rich. We gotta get you with some
if anybody's listening, you can get VJ in the movies
or stand up or anything like that. I told you
I did a nude scene in one of the American Pieo.
I'm not I'm not kidding around you. No, remember the
(03:31):
conversation we had. Yeah, I did a nude scene in
one of the offshoots of American Pieo. I was supposed
to be in Final Destination. That was my biggest regret
when I was out in LA I didn't do enough
movies and stuff. So but anyway, we got a lot
to get too. There's a lot of sports going on.
We're gonna be here four hours. Bernie Fratto will be
our insider from Las Vegas. He's gonna join us sixth Tower.
(03:53):
We'll have a lout to get there. The SEGA will
join us a little bit later on. And now we're
number three. We got the bonus hour. We got a
lot of football to get to, you know, obviously preseason
week two. Before we even get to that, I texted
you earlier today because obviously we know a couple of
weeks ago Miami lost Jalen Ramsey for if not the
whole season, better part of the season, he'll be now
(04:14):
Armstead turn Armstead goes down today and I immediately went
to a text you and said, that's it. Season's over
over ov R with the space between between each letter,
I goes over. And of course plank H, my partner
on Sunday, texted me and you know, he was giving
me a rough time that goodness though he's not gonna
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need surgery. But what kind of Dolphin fan are you? Man?
Not gonna have been a major injury. I hate Dolphin
fans that are like, good, no big deal, no big deal,
it's not gonna you know, man, that would have been
a big deal. Man, We're going down one at a time.
It's killing me, you know, it's it's killing me.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The reason why it's no big deal because we didn't
know what the injury was yet, and when other players
speaking talking, they go, look, hey.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
He I talked to him.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
He said, he's it's just it was a Tarik Hill
Tygrek Hill said yeah, he told me. Look, he said,
but he got carted off a car.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
They do that.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
They do that. That's that's all precaution.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Now carting off five years and in previous that meant
something really bad. I think over the last five years
in the NFL, especially in training camps, we've seen so
many carting offs and it's a bruis knee, a strained calf.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It was Joe Burrow was carted off. It was a
right right, it was. It was a calf, and I
think now he had a serious that's gonna keep him
out for a while.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I know, but I still think now that we're they're
doing bigger contracts, there's more money, there's you know, the
league is a lot more fragile. You can't hit full
pads all the time now, every precaution, for every dollar
and red penny you put into a player, I see
franchises now all adopting the same thesis, souf no, no, no, hey,
can you stand up?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Don't worry about it. Get the car. What's the car
guy there for?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Send over there in the shade, Drinka, gatoray, get get
get over here, get picked up our our start tis
quarterback two hundred plus million, and let's will come in
and let's no no walk in. So I think when
we hear cart it off, people panic. But now when
we hear cart office, okay, let's just see what it is. Guys,
they car everybody off.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
That is why Jay it was. It was a little
bit more than that, at least didn't seem like it.
They were talking. The first thing they said was good news.
He's not gonna need surgery. Whoa whoa surgery? I hey,
you gotta slow it down here. I thought you're gonna
tell me, okay, it's just gonna be a couple of weeks.
You started scaring me when you're using the S word
like that to throw it out, surgery. It didn't occur
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to me that that's what it was gonna be, you
know what I mean. Jobs. But I did get a
little nervous because that would have been a death blow
to Miami. That that could have been really bad if
they would have gonna gone ahead and lost him you
know what I mean. That would hurt.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, that would have hurt tremendously.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
We know that.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I've been telling everybody all summer long. I'm tempering my
expectations for my beloved Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Oh no, no, no, that's why, that's why, that's why
I hate you. Let me explain it. I know, I
know you.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I know you hate me and love me at the
same time. It's it's like being it's like being mid
and a dime at the same time. You know what
I'm saying. It works for some people. But what I'm
realizing this year is we are solid as any roster
in the league at every single level on the field
except the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
And they've tried and they've tried to fix it. When
we went and got Armstead.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
People have to remember he only played nine games the
previous year, so he'd already had some injury questions when
he was in New Orleans. But what were you gonna
do with your Miami You need a tackle. He's the
big fish in the free agent. If we don't go
get him, our lines even worse than it was coming
into that next season.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Then it was the previous year.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Austin Jackson former number eighteen overall pick, first round out
of USC. Who I saw my own eyes. He never
already jumped off the field. To me, there was never
a time I went to a USC game and watched
Austin Jackson play tackle and go, man, he's mauling. Oh man,
Look how he's given the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
So much time went in the first round.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
It was like a almost like a Scooby Dude reaction, like, uh, okay,
we do need a lineman. We do have two first
round picks. You're spending the late teen win on the lineman. Okay, yeah,
you can put the film the highlights on. It showed
me all the good stuff, of course, but all right,
so that's been a problem with him, the kid out
in order Dain, it's just been a turnstyle and we
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need aren't that there because he plays that left side
and he's got to help protect two of this year
with the concussion stuff, we had no choice but to
go get the guy.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
But this is what he is.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
He missed time last year.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Arnie. You know, I was gonna say I and we'll
get to some stuff that we're looking forward to in
week two of the preseason. But I was I was
a little bit in tears there. When I saw the
Jets get Dovin Cook, I'm like, oh no, that's that
closes the gap. I don't care what they say about
running backs, and it's not worth a half a point
or any any blowdy on that that that closed the
(08:56):
gap a little bit more. You know, I thought the
Dolphins and the bill were the two teams that were
gonna find it out for the division. Now I'm thinking
maybe it could be a three team race. All I
know is that the Patriots will be in the last
place for sure. I don't care if they designed Ezekiel.
We'll get to that later on. But I didn't like
the Dalvin Cook siding for being a Miami fan that
(09:17):
really really helped the Jets.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
You know, the one fan I won't be is the
fan that wanted him, and then when he signed somewhere else,
it's like, oh, I didn't want him anyway. I made
sure that I put my pinions out on my show
and other shows and the platforms leading up to it.
When free agency first started and he and we knew
he was gonna get let go by Minnesota, I said, okay,
let when he just let go, we're gonna cut Byron Jones.
That's gonna save us the thirty one million. We'll have
(09:39):
some money to play other players. And he's a guy
they should go get. But as time went on, and
as he went to visit Miami and there was a
deal that supposedly was out there, then Boomer science and
puts out that there's been a seven million dollar deal
on the table for him in Minnesota. Like Minnesota wanted
to bring him back, just not at the price that
he wanted. So he had another deal in you know,
supposedly the Miami dude, I was out there. But as
(10:01):
time goes on, Arnie, you have to be with the team.
You gotta be in the playbook. You gotta be with
the guys. You gotta you gotta form the camaraderie. And
as time continue to grow on, and then when he
went up to the Jets camp, it's like I got
on ready and say, you know what, Look, I would
still love to have him, but if you're not gonna
sign by now, we're about to start, like we gotta
get going. We can't wait on you. I like our
running back room. I like Moster, I like Wilson and
(10:22):
this kid a chain, this kid out of Texas A
and M.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, I hear about that. You know, Blake was telling
me about man.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, Man, he could be Chris Johnson if you remember
who CJ. Two K was for the Titans. He has
that type of breakaway speed, that type of balance, and
he's every coach, every player is praising him. Now I
know it's training camp. He looked great in the preseason game. Now,
every time he touched the ball, you can see the
first step explosion. He's like a Porsch. He goes He
don't go one, two, three four, he goes one three five.
(10:50):
He's that type of speed which fits what we do there.
So uh, they can have him man. And and I'm
not I'm a Florida State kind of side chick fan.
Michigan's my team, but I've always had a crushed on
Florida State, so I liked him, and I was a
Families in Minnesota, so I'm not gonna wish him bad
and listen, take them. I still think we're a better
football team. I think the Jets are in trouble because
of their offensive line, and I think their defense can't
(11:10):
replicate what it did last year. But we'll find all
that out. But as far as Dalvin Cook is concerned,
it's cool. He wanted to go there. He took the
most money obviously.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
It also told me Arnie that Miami didn't offer him
that contract because if they didn't offer him that contract,
he'd have been signed in Miami. So maybe it was
four or five million somewhere in that range, and he
was just waiting to get a better deal. You know,
Jets struck to deal with him, so you know, you know,
hats off, kudos, So he made money. So I'm never
mad at the brother forgetting his bread.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I don't think it's because they were gonna get Jonathan
Taylor or anything like that, or maybe there was a
backup plan. So I was I thought maybe they were
Maybe they're just happy with what they have, like you're
happy with the running back situation.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, I like our I like our running back room
because at the end of the day, if you can't block,
it doesn't matter who's it running back. So unless our
line gets better shows improvement, it doesn't. Yeah, he'll make
some plays himself, but you can't live off that for
eighteen games seventeen game, Excuse me, you can't live off that.
He's not Barry Sanders. He's not Bo Jackson, you know
(12:06):
what I'm saying, Like those guys can live off a
career of making plays on their own whenever they had
to do it, good line or bad line. He's not
that guy. So in less our line blocks than even
the backs we got ere in trouble.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
By the way, Twitter the best way to get a
hold of us during the show at Big There, I
screwed it up already at.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Big Vanilla Funny there you go.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
See you need to change that.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
God, he you know I'm not changing. I'm not changing again.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
That's it. Why did you just go with something like
at VJ or something like that?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yours a stinking genius, Like what stick?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
A genius one? But all you have to do is
put in a couple of letters and it comes in
right away. You know what I mean? Well, they were
too lazy to scroll. That's not my problem. By the way,
Cleveland leads Philadelphia. The only game tonight eighteen ten. Do
you get into preseason that you watch this was plank.
It means one of those guys like I get off
my lot. It means nothing. I don't care. Jason Martin
(12:59):
when I field in the last Saturday, I figure it was.
He's like, no, it means nothing. I don't care. It's boring,
you know. And you know he was just so anti preseason,
and I'm I'm probably the completely the other way. I
I put probably a little bit more stock in it
today should but I love watching it. I like it
me too.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I watch i DV as you know on the DVR
king here are sports Radio. I watch every every preseason game,
at least until deep in the fourth quarter because I'm
a guy that likes to be ahead of the curve
on certain players. And I like to find twos, twos
that you could talk about in August and September that
these teams will need in December and January because injuries
are inevitable.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So there's some twos.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I've seen him, like, hey man, that backup linebacker right there,
they lose a linebacker, They're okay because that kid can
slot right in and play. You see things like that
in preseason. That's why I'm I'm I'm committed to it, right.
That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
You know, You're like Plank, But in college Plank watches
all the you know, the college games, and he does
stuff that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Oh yeah, I watch anywhere DVR. I'm watching away from
eight to nine college games a Saturday easily.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Oh yeah, no college, i'day I'm watching all the games.
I got to set up. I'm all in on that.
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Speaker 4 (14:54):
I don't know whether jumping in talk what kind of
music do you playing? Are you kidding me? That's then yo,
tell them, Yo, tell them tell him Alex, are you
kidding me? There? As jay Z Mike Jack right, I know,
but it's kind of tough for me to jump in
and say VJ Husky And for the guys, of course,
(15:15):
Jason spent tread Mike Harmon and then I got to
tell you we're live at tyrock dot com Studios. Uh,
so we appreciate your tuning on it. I should have
opened this show in the first segment about this, so
my apologies. I just want to get to this. I
was watching the game on the NFL network channel. Uh
Tyree Cleveland, the wide receiver landed hard and awkwardly on
(15:38):
his head trying to make a catch. They stopped the game,
I don't know for it seemed like five or ten
minutes they did as I was watching this. They did
remove him on a stretcher and they brought him into
obviously the locker room. I don't know if they took
him to the hospital. Weft to get further update. I'm
not going to speculate, but obviously it didn't have the
(16:01):
you know, the immediacy like we saw last year. So
we're gonna keep your eye on that. If you see
anything VJ. Please let me know. We'll see what's going
on with Tyree Cleveland and we'll see if he's gonna
be okay.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
All right, my friend, no do I'll definitely keep that.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Let me let me know what's going on there. We're
in for the guy inside, Jason Smith and his best
tread Mike Carmon. They got to fill in earlier. So
in a way, so who do they fill in for?
Doug Gottliebs.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
I think they were either for Gottlieb or for Dan Patrick.
They might have been in for Patrick, so technically then
we were in for Dan Patrick.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Doug gottli Well, Scott Leeb fills in for Dan Patrick
and Colin Coward, so technically, technically we're filling in for
those guys. See, this is why I'm not allowed in
the studio. I'm not allowed anywhere near Los Angeles and
the studios or anything like that. But if if the
Expo's ever come back, I'm I'm their guy at Fox
(16:57):
Sports Radio Way Expos.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Wow, what are you gonna You're gonna throw the whalers
in there next?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
No, No, I'm not far from Montreal. I'm only like
an hour and a half from andreal that. Wow. Yeah,
I'm far from everybody for crying out loud, all right, VJ.
A couple of things, obviously, signings from earlier this week.
I wasn't why I filled in a little bit, but
I want to start with Ezekiel Elliott to the Patriots.
You know, maybe two three years ago this might have
scared me, and I'm like, oh boy, Tom Brady's gonna
(17:23):
have that running back that he's always wanted. Can you
even tell me to pull up and tell me all
the great running backs in Patriot history. It's going to
be a thin, thin list, my friend. Yeah it is.
It is going to be real thin now. I don't
know how much more Ezekiel Elliot's got in the tank.
I don't think it's much at all. I don't think
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this is really going to help the Patriots all that much.
I think it helps them slightly, but I still think
the Patriots are destined for last. I know we're on
in Boston on the Sports Hub, so it's gonna be
a long year for Patriot fans out there. Look, maybe
a Zeke, maybe Zeke surprise me. And you know, I
have a lot left and that certainly will help back jobs.
(18:04):
No doubt about that, but I don't see it. So
I still see the last place for the Patriots that
you're they they don't have any wow factors. Yeah, they
don't have anybody that's going to, you know, come up
with that big play other than maybe Zeke.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Now, yeah, Zeke is done. But I've been saying Zeke's
been done for two years. Yeah, yeah, zeg Zeke's been done.
Once got his money, there's been contract was out like
four year years ago, four years ago. It was before
I want to say, before COVID and once.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
He got his deal.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
You can just put the tape on. Don't don't point
out numbers them, you don't. Don't tell me about average
jar per carrying all of that.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Put the tape on.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Is the lean the same way is the is the
is the explosiveness, the same way. I watched them go
down with one or two hits way too many times
when I didn't see that when he was fighting for
his money. I watched Zeke break a run and bounce
to the outside and then Joh got a bounce without
lowering the shoulder. I didn't see that from Zeke before
he got his money. So I pay attention to little
things like that, And once I saw that's like, yeah,
you're still getting some yards, but it's gonna klin year
(19:00):
after year after year. And then last year last summer,
if you remember, I said, this is his last year
with Dallas. They're cutting him after this year. They can't
they can't keep me. He's not productive. So fast forward
to what I think he'll be with the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Nothing.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Here's my thing with this with the Patriots. This was
the head scratcher for me. Bill Belichick never never really
goes after veterans that are over the hill, and it'd
be successful there. He's tried it with Cam Newton and
everybody knows I love Cam. He tried to spread.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
He tried it with OO. He tried it with Reggie Wayne.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Remember when they brought Reggie Wayne in and people were like,
oh my god, they got Reggie Wayne. It's like, yeah,
but you got after ten year decade playing with Peyton Manning,
Reggie Wayne. You didn't get the Reggie Wayne of five
six years ago. Those guys didn't even never make the
team except for Cam. They need to start a quarterback,
so of course Cam was there, but it was just
one year and they moved on from hims. I think
this was a let's kick the tires. Yeah, we'll write
the deal down. I'm pretty sure if they cut him
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before the season start, which I think is very very possible,
all it's gonna take is one fumble or one miss
pickup blitz. Bill doesn't play around, especially with a veteran
that's Arnie. So that's what that was the head scratcher
to me. It's like, Bill normally doesn't do this. He's
famous for cutting the guy year two early rather than
a year too late. Remember what he did the lawyer murloy,
Like the day before, like wait, the weekend before opening kickoff,
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they go to Buffalo and they get handed, They get
trounced at Buffalo. It was like, see just what he knows.
He's got other guys there. It's gonna take a few
weeks in a few games for these guys to get gone.
But he knew what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Then.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
He's done this before with other veterans. So that was
the head scratching for me. I'd be surprised he makes
any mistakes in the preseason game. Arnie. I'd be surprised
he's on the opening day roster.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
All right. A couple of things. First of all, good
news are but he Berney Fred Jordan sixth hour texted
me and said, Tyreek Cleveland has movement in all extremities.
So thank god that he's going to be okay. So
that's the first thing that is an update on matter,
because I'm sorry I had missed it, so I didn't
see that on Twitter. So I'm glad to get that now.
As for the Patriots and Bill Belichick, what happens if
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they're destined now for six and eleven, seven to ten season,
and you're right, he usually doesn't go for the aging veteran.
He's more, i'll cut you a year before. Yeah, then
i'll cut you a year late. Now, granted these running
backs don't cous a heck of a lot of money.
Is this the desperation? Because if he finishes with six
or seven wins? Could this really be the last year?
Bill Belichick? Cook? Nothing is forever. Tom Brady isn't forever.
(21:20):
And I'm not saying retire from the NFL. If he
moves out from the Patriots, maybe coaches another team, I
don't know. Is this gonna be the end? Remember Tom
Brady's buying into the Raiders. Could that be a possibility.
Is this gonna be the end of Bill Belichick with
the Patrios if he has a losing season.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
First of all, I love that little how you slid
that Raiders thing in there, because I wasn't even thinking
that that's why.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
See, that's why you like to do shows with the Ogs.
That's why you like to do shows with the og.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
That was because now you got my mind when it's like,
hold up, yeah, because I'm predicting that they're gonna fire
Josh after this year, so they're gonna have an open
coaching Kansas City opened for the position excuse me for
the for the Vegas Raiders. So absolutely yes. So no,
I like that right there, man. But no, I don't
think this is the end for Belichick. I think Belichick
(22:07):
has earned all his time. I think Belichick has earned
the right to coach there as long as he wants.
I don't I mean, who you're gonna move on to,
You're gonna fire Belichick and move on to somebody else.
I don't think he will retire, and I don't know
if he'll go coach another team. I think he's there
permanently until he decides he's done. And I think he's
at the point now also, RD I'm.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Sorry, just gone.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
I think Bill Belichick's also at the point right now
that he ain't got nothing to prove that nobody in
the football world. People could talk about the spy gate
and the Flaygate and all that, at the end of
the day, his fingers still got those big ass rings
on him. At the end of the day they do.
So with that being said, he I think this at
this point he's just doing it for because he really
loves coaching football.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
This is his life.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
What else is he gonna go do?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Well, But it's maybe not his decision because as the
team now goes from Robert Kraft to his son, you
always know that when you inherit that just like Al
Davis and his son getting the team, you want to
put your own stamp. You want to put your own
name on the team. Does he say, you know what, Billy,
you had a great run with my father. There's a
(23:13):
new regime. I'm now taking over, and I'm gonna start
calling the shots. We got rid of Tom Brady and
now we're gonna get a new coach and we're gonna
start the Patriots from ground level and start a whole
new thing you see. See that is a possibility or.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
No, yeah, only if he's smart enough to say, listen,
we'll give it a few more We'll give it another
year or two.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
How many years is Belichick out here? He's up there
in age, I know.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
But if I'm the son, I go to Belichick and say, listen,
we do want to move on eventually. I'll give you
the opportunity, though, to find to find your successor I'll
give you the opportunity because I trust your judgment, and
we'll move forward with that regime and that coaching regime.
If he's a smart If he's smart, and that's what
he would do if he wants to beat a young
(23:57):
hot shot is mine now, daddy, he's gone, I'm doing
it my way. Oh okay, Buss Junior, Okay, stein Bringer,
Okay Steinbringer Juniors, Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Go ahead. Yeah, that's what they do.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah, exactly. But that's what I'm saying. That's the mistake
they make. What they should do is go to somebody
that was from the older regime and say, hey, for
the next few years, could you help me out please,
that's humble man, could.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You help me out please? How many of those guys
are gonna say no, you want to put your but
you want to put your own stamp of approval on it.
And well, now Twitter Scott, he says, nothing like the
twenty four to twenty five Vagaras Vaders led by Belichick
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earlier this weekend OUs in the running back position. We'll
get to that. Gotta get to the Jets and Dalve
and Cook all that. But first I gotta work tonight.
So you know what that means, don't you? That means
the Sager's gotta work tonight. Let's see what's Teddays got
Buddy's team the Sager last Thursday? You were not here
last Thursday? Right, I don't know, Yes, I what I was?
When was I fill it in? I was always there Friday,
(25:46):
Saturday and Sunday. All right, you know what I'm gonna
give you Sunday off to show you what I'm a
good guy. I X You're welcome. Don't don't come in Sunday.
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I already got it off.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
But thank you. Oh you see, I already pulled it.
I already pulled strings.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I do like that.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I always believe he has powered these hallways. By the way,
the Eagles announced that the receiver Tyree Cleveland has a
neck injury and yes movement in all his extremities. After
the injury in the exhibition at Philly tonight. He had
a hard landing in the third quarter on a play,
and that game's still going here at this late hour
because they've had another recently injury delay in the game
(26:20):
for an Eagles defensive tackle from the Texas Longhorns, Moro
Ojomo gets carted off in a stretch on a stretcher.
He did give it the thumbs up and a wave
on the way off. Right now, about six and a
half minutes to go fourth quarter at Philly, it's Cleveland
in the lead. However, Philly has just thrown a touchdown pass,
so for the moment it's eighteen sixteen in the fourth
(26:43):
they could go for two and tie.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I wait four, I'm not gonna wa I need a
touch out of guy, he laid four.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Keep in mind there's no such thing as overtime in
NFL for season anymore. The quarterback for the first half
of the Browns tonight was UCLA rookie Dorian Thompson was great,
yes again again, one hundred and sixty four yards passing.
He was thirteen of twenty five through the air. The
first half quarterback for the Eagles was Marcus Mariota eighty
(27:08):
six yards passing and one interception. We had two more
exhibitions come Friday. Most NFL teams play this Saturday. Titans
rookie quarterback Will Levis left practice with a lower body injury.
Tennessee had joint practices with Minnesota Dolphins. Tackle toront Armstead
was carted off with a lower leg injury. NFL network
says he should be ready for Week one. Seattle running
(27:30):
back Kenneth Walker returned to full practice after a groin
injury three weeks ago. Lions wide receiver i'm and ross
Saint Brown is due to return to practice next week
after an ankle injury. Detroit wide receiver Jamison Williams, though
with a bad hamstring, could miss the preseason and he
suspended for the first six regular season games as well.
The Raven signed defensive back Ronald Darby since Marlon Humphrey
(27:52):
will miss about the next month with a foot injury.
Running Back Briefsall officially returned to Jets practice today. Tampa
Bay confirmed that wide receiver Russell Gage is out for
the year with a torn pateller tendon.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Update.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Two point pass is good at Philadelphia. The Eagles have
tied the game with Cleveland eighteen eighteen, just over six
minutes to go. To Major League Baseball. We have two
late games. Diamondbacks lead two to nothing at San Diego.
Top of the fifth, Tommy Famm with a two run
homer off Padre starter Rich Hill. The Dodgers and Brewers
are scoreless. Bottom of the second. That's Lance Lynn against
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Milwaukee's Corbyn Burns. The Dodgers have a ten game winning
streak on the line. Detroit at Cleveland reigned out. The
Mets at Saint Louis. Game was on Fox TV tonight.
Mets win four to two. Pete Alonzo with his thirty
seventh home run victories for Seattle and Washington.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Back to you, all right, thanks a lot of course. VJ. Husky,
Arnie Span you're in for the guys, Jason Smith and
his best friend Mike Carmon. You could go ahead and
tweet us at Big Vanilla funny. I'm at stinking Genius one.
You know, I know I wanted to talk about some
of the other signings earlier this week, and we will
do that. We also got Vj's one seventeen. Kase you
(29:03):
don't know what that is. VJ. Tobody what his Vj's
one seventeen. We're gonna get to the last segment, well.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Quick backstory on Martin VJ. He read me a list
of one hundred NFL predictions that some guy from sports
illustrator forget the gentleman's name, had to put out there.
But they what they did is they read everything that
went against the Dolphins to me and all the other teams.
So the more they kept reading, the more pissed off
I kept getting. And I was like, okay, you know what.
Chris Purfett jumps in and he goes, you guys better
(29:29):
watch it.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
VJ.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I'll go home and do one oh one. I said,
you know what, you damn right I will. But what
I did is, I said, you know, I'm gonna do
one seventeen since seventeen was my football number. So what
I did is I've broken down all the predictions I
possibly could, every team, big players, category statistics, and everything,
one hundred and seventeen Uncle Vj's one hundred and seventeen
NFL predictions for the twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
So if there's any team, any player coach you want
to hear about, you could tweet us and a VJ
will get it to us. In the last segment, Big
Vanilla Funny at stinking genius one and we'll get to
that in about ten minutes from now. You know, I
did want to ask you. I know we're not the first,
you know, word on this, and we're certainly not going
(30:11):
to be the last about the Michael Orr situation. And
I don't want to go through the whole money. We
know that the two Weas are saying they only got
like fourteen or fifteen thousand. Michael Or disputes that big time.
You know, there's you know you hear numbers anywhere between
hundreds of thousands of dollars for each member of the family.
(30:32):
Just one thing. I wanted to get to what I
don't understand. Usually I follow the money trail on who's
telling the truth From what I understand, and not too
many people keep don't bring this up. The two Wees
sold their company right when Michael was about what seventeen
or eighteen years old, actually before Michael came to live
with them, for something in the neighborhood of two hundred
(30:54):
and twenty five million dollars. From what I understand now
and how many years ago was this twenty years ago?
Two hundred and twenty five million dollars is back then
is what three four hundred million? Now do you do it?
Could be? Do do you really need to steal a
young man's What are they saying four million or whatever
(31:14):
it is when you just got two hundred and twenty
five million? Does that? Does that make Sensebody? Is that
the wrong way to look at this? VJ? I don't know.
How do you see this whole thing? That's driving me crazy.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
It's driving me crazy too, because I'm seeing too many
opinions where he is now you know, they are now
the victim. The two weeks are now the victim, right right?
That that really takes me off.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Because, yeah, I gotta tell you, I'm starting to believe
that maybe they're telling the truth. I'm now you know,
why is it taking so long? They said he just
found out? Now I've gone back and forth on this
a little bit. No, because I and here's my theory
on why it's taking so long. They saying he tried
to shake us down. Okay, right, well your your verbiage
you're using as a shakedown. He may say, yeah, I
want to hit him and said, listen, I found this out.
(31:55):
You know, won't you gos go ahead and cut me my?
You know, cut me what you owe me, pay me
back what you owe me, a what you stole from me? Okay, no, fine,
I'll go public with it. Okay, let me call him again. Hey, listen,
I'm gonna go public. I'm trying to be cool about this.
You guys know what you did. YadA, YadA, YadA. They're
thrombing their nose. I don't know, we're not.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I don't know what the conversations are. But when I
hear shakedown, it's like, what do you do? What is he?
He's not He's not the mob. This isn't the Gambino
family from the seventies in New York City. He's not
shaking you down. He's finding out what's going on, and
he's trying to come to you and tell you about
it and say, Okay, you owe me this, pay me
what you owe me.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
That's how this kind of shakes out to me.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
But even before that, are you why are you scamming
an eighteen year old kid and making him think that
you're adopting him when you're not adopting him?
Speaker 4 (32:38):
No? No, but they even in the book, in the
movie that he knew. It was said in the book,
I believe that he knew there wasn't going to be
an adoption from from what it was saying. You know,
from what it was said.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
As far as after the fact, there was a point
where Theavid, from what I'm understanding, from what I've seen
enough and if I've missed something, listen, people could tweet
me all day long again he bring it up. I'm
I can change my mind to different information. But everything
I've seen is yes, he said he knew, but not
at the point of when it was happening. Now here's
the there you go. You know, you feel what I'm saying. So, yeah,
(33:10):
I knew about that. I'm not just finding that out now. Yes,
I knew about that because I wrote about it in
my book. But at the end of the day, it's
still a scam. You still with his conservators, conservators where
you are in charge of his business deals.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
You still got two hundred and fifty k a piece
for the movie. He didn't get anything. But why that money?
Would They made over two hundred million dollars and you'd
have to ask them, brother, that's what that is.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I don't have man, that's like me making hundreds of
millions of dollars and take it one hundred dollars bill
out of your wallet or greed.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Greed doesn't make sense, you know what, It doesn't make sense,
but greed is powerful, Arnie. Why do people that's got
five million want ten million, ten million, one twenty fifty million,
one hundred, one hundred. What do want to you want
to be billionaires?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Like? When?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
When is enough enough? When do you have enough money?
That's what greed is, bro right right right?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Uh? Obviously you want to get in Big Vanilla Funny.
I'm mistaking you one. Vj's gonna come back. Vja's one seventeen.
Any player, any team you want to hear about, just
tweet it on in and VJ will give you his
notes and tell you what's gonna happen to that player
and that team At Big Vanilla Funny. I'm in Sticker
Genius one. This is Fox Sports or Radio.
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The iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. All Right,
good evening, everybody, j Husky, Arnie Span your live at
the tyreck dot Com studios in for the guys Jason
Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon. All right, we
gotta get the vj's one seventeen, one hundred and seventeen predictions.
(35:16):
How old did it take you to write stuff like that?
Out for crying out loud?
Speaker 5 (35:19):
First of all, this is feel good music right here.
Thank you, Alex.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
This has felt this ma. I know you, I know
you do.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Every time I come into your hear bro, you look
out for me and I appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Eh, yeah, everybody dance. I love eighties music.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Man, All right?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Uh took me.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I started that day when that show happened on Martin
and VJ was early July. So I went home that
night and I broke out a brand new composition pad
because I get him at the Dollar Tree. I'd be
buying them like ten at a time, because, as you see,
when I post stuff I write, I'm an old school man.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I write stuff out. I don't. I don't use my
notepad on my phone.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I'm not a type and I'm not. I don't. I
don't have.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Files on my laptop I have. I have fifty sixty
seventy notebooks and note pass scattered around my house with
all types of sports talk stuff and all types of
comedy stuff that I've been working on for a year.
So went home, broke out a brand new one man
and just started. And the way I did it is
I named all the teams, and then I named all
the major categories, and then I even made a fantasy category.
(36:20):
And then I just went through each team and I
just picked different than I looked at over an unders lines, player,
player props, future stuff like that. Coaches I think are
gonna last, teams I think are gonna finish bad, the surprises,
things like that, And I just really dug into and
I worked on it. You know, every night, about two hours,
I always sit down, and it's the last thing I
do when I'm watching whatever's on my DV or whatever
sports I break out the notebook and I start, you know,
(36:41):
researching on the computer and putting it together. Man, So
I'm proud of it.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I'll tell you what with the Browns missing a field
goal with one fifty two left of the score tied
of eighteen, let's start with the Browns and the Shawn Watson.
I'm dying to know where you think they're going to finish.
I've died to know where you think what kind of
years the Sean Watson's gonna have paid attention to him?
Does he bobs back? Finally? I mean last year was
a throwaway at the end of the year. Now we'll
have a full year under his belt. What are the
(37:07):
Browns do? What is DeShawn Watson?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Though?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
That's a gooon right there. That's actually number eight on
the list.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
So, with Uncle Vj's one hundred and seventeen vestment Sports
NFL prediction for the twenty twenty three seasons, I have
Deshaun Watson lifting the Browns passing offense ten spots from
twenty two what it was in twenty twenty two to.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Twelfth or higher.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Last year they only averaged two hundred and six two
hugi to two point six yards per game. I think
with Deshaun Watson a whole offseason, good receivers, great offensive line,
great running game, great defense. Like that's a football team
no one's talking about. And I understand why we don't
have to rehash it. We know why people kind of
want to stay away from the Cleveland Browns, and that's fine.
(37:49):
I don't write the I didn't write the book, but
I read it. You know what I'm saying. I didn't
make the game, aren't.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
They were the worst teaming that the vision Here here's
the flip side to that, though.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Somebody's finishing in that division. And I'll give you guys
a little spoiler. If you want to know about the Steelers,
it will not be the Pittsburgh Steelers this year. They
will not finish last in that division. So that means
either the Ravens they have Lamar with a new contract,
obj the Cincinnati Bengals. They've been to the AFC Championship
Game multiple times. They're three to one against the Chiefs.
(38:20):
One of those three teams are going to finish.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Slo I don't.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
I'm telling you, I don't know. Think about also too,
something else. They had the seventh best rushing attack last year. Okay,
that was six in the league. That's one forty six
a game on the ground. That's the over under Vegas
has given them. I think that's the over. I'm taking
the over on their rushing attack being more than one
forty six a Sunday. That opens up play action pass.
(38:47):
Deshaun Watson is good. Whether people like them or not.
Far the transgressions and stuff that happens, this could be
a big year for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
All Right, I'll tell you what. Since they're playing the
Philadelphia Eagles. Like I said, score tight to eighteen, one
thirty nine left in the game. What about the figals?
Do we just paid so men to go back to
the super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
I want to pencil them in to go back to
the super Bowl so bad. Because I am such a
Jalen Hurts fan since he was at Alabama, I thought
he got a raw deal even though he was a Dolphin.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I thought he would be a better pro. I've said
that on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
I'm excited for what they bought in all the pieces
they have on defense, great coaching, great quarterback.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Think he wins the MVP this year.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
But when I found the stat there are only two
teams in the last thirty years that have gone back
to the Super Bowl after losing. That's the nineteen Patriots
and the ninety three Bills.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
That's it. When you lose, you do not get back.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
It's gotta be broken at some point, right Arnie, It's
gotta be broken again at some point this run and
another team added back to it. I'm giving them the
Super Bowl out of the NFC. Their super Bowl chances
are a plus six fifty the NFC. The NFC champ
is a plus two fifty right there, and I think
Jalen Hurts wins the MVP. Holmes plus seven hundred, Joe
(40:01):
Burrow is a plus seven fifty, Josh Allen is a
plus eight hundred. Jalen Hurts is sitting at a plus
eleven hundred. Guys, throw fifty to seventy five bucks on it.
You'll fake me in January.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
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coming down in the last minute. We'll let you know
what's going on there. We got some NFL. We start
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