August 24, 2023 • 36 mins
Jason and Mike give you the tale of two MLB power houses going in different directions. Super Bowl XXXV Champion head coach Brian Billick swings by for all the latest on the Jets, Trey Lance and Broncos. Plus, Colts running back Jonathan Taylor will be traded by Saturday!
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Greetings and welcome inside. Happy Wednesday, The Jason Smith Show
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we have some big baseball stuff to get to. Dodgers
just got postponed, so now they got to play at
six o'clock in the morning tomorrow. It feels like six
in the morning. But yeah, look we talk about when
you look back at twenty twenty three, one of the
big memories is going to be in sports. It's the
year soccer cut through and became the fourth true major sport.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We're gonna see it over the next few years, the
growth of this game because of Leonel Messi. And this
is like the fourth time in the last two and
a half weeks that we open the show with something
heart stopping involving Messi, as Miami has just beaten Cincinnati
FC in penalties again the Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase
we're at watching on the sideline. Messi scores in penalties
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and Miami wins three to three aggregate five to four
on penalties in the US Open Cup and inner Miami's
gone from a team that's at the bottom of the barrel.
They may never lose again. They may never lose again
all the way to the MLS Cup. Even if they
don't make the playoffs, they'll still win the MLS Cup.
It'll still happen eight.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Straight And watching the Wizardry, they actually did the ISO
so you had a second view of the game if
you were watching on your Apple Plus, where it just
tracked Messi the entire time. And he's one of those guys.
He's not moving fast all the time kind but still
moving right, circling and then you get the big burst
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and a couple of huge assists, one with about a
minute and a half remaining in regulation time, right and
just watching the flow of this game and the energy
in that crowd from the the opening kick, just an
amazing run. Yeah, a lot of shots of the Bengals
up in the boot that kept showing nods up there
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over the course of the game. But it it's a
real phenomenon that you got going on here, and certainly
social media for those that haven't subscribed to the Pass
and everything that flows out of these games. They did
their best within about a half a minute to capture
those goals and get them up for you. You didn't
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miss a beat. So it's in perfect syncreticity right now.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh, going back to nineteen eighty four and the Police
before Sting went out on his own synchronicity.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
The Big album nicely does.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So yeah, look it's just gonna continue any time. Leono
Messi plays is a headline, tell me another guy in
sports besides Otani Well and Aaron Rodgers. I mean, those
are the n lebron those are your four guys. That's
your four mount Rushmore of when these guys play, everything
stops because Rogers this year because of the drama surrounding him,
not just because of the quer he's had, but the
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drama surrounding Rodgers, Otani, Lebron and Messi. They stop time.
These four guys stop, Hey are they playing tonight? Whatever
else is going on that could take a back seat
if these guys have a big night, if they have
a horrible night, if they have a night where something
comes up from the game that's dramatic. These are the
four guys. This is my carbon, This is your Mount
Rushmore of the four guys that matter the most in
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sports right now. But these are the guys that stop
everything when they're playing right now.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
That's your four Mount Rushmore. Yeah, Mount mart Rushmore. Talk
was supposed to be in July. Did you not get
the memo that was Sports Talk Radio of our ancestors.
That is not what we do here?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Is that a July time? I don't know that's a
July topic number?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Because you were supposed to have the dead time, right,
isn't Isn't that what it always was? The number four?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, but instead we had Aaron Rodgers the Jets. Yeah,
we just just we're gonna hear number five, number seven,
all number ten, yeah, all stuff left over from when
Jim Cutler I voiced over the NBA pick. So I
just give you number one, number two, all the way
to thirty. Okay, right here you go all.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
The way through. Add Francesis, countdown to it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Number twenty seven, number thirty, number sixty four, number one
hundred and twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And then you get to the end. He just says,
mister irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Number two hundred and eighty six, number two hundred and
eighty seven. How many more of these do I have
to do? I know I'm contracted to finish all these things,
but I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I attracted you for two hours forty three minutes. Keep going.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
But just that those are the four guys that stop
everything right now, and it's hard to argue that there's
other people at that level still. And Lebron is gonna
be thirty eight years old, he's still that guy. Rodgers
is thirty nine, he's that guy. Otani is just someone
that does when he hits a home run, when he
comes out of the game early like he did earlier today,
when Messi scores, when he doesn't score, they stop everything.
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It's amazing that this is how fast I told you
in twenty twenty three, its shown up because Rogers has
been this guy, Lebron's been this guy for twenty years,
Otani's been this guy for now going on two years.
And now here's Messi who's been in the MLS for
about eight seconds, and all of a sudden, mussy TV
Mussey reporting must see everything. These are your four guys.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Well on this weekend we finally get a regular season appearance.
Right now that League's Cup is as a final, and
and this is over and we get back into league play.
But I'll just take you back the other day, right
they win League's Cup, and just the shots of David Beckham.
For folks that didn't watch it, go quick do the
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quick Google's search, grab it on x Twitter or whatever
the hell we're calling it today, and just look at
the way he's looking at the pitch, looking at the
reaction after the victory. I mean that tells you you're
pushing that next thing forward, right because he was the guy,
he was carrying it forward. And you know, as we
always say, someone's got to be first, and that was him.
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But now he's getting to watch some of the fruits
of his labor and watching what messy means to this
next iteration of things, the next generation. And we've talked
about it a lot, and you can get into the heritage,
you get into the population change, you get into how
participation rates for soccer and everything else. Add it all up,
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you've got a time where there's excitement and let's face it,
people like to be and associate be around and associate
themselves with greatness. And when this guy's got the ball
off his foot and anything can happen at any point
in the field, right, And we've watched that time and
time again, so it keeps you coming back for more
and glad we're here to help usher in that new era.
(07:06):
I will be ready with my hot pink kit.
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continue on tonight, but just for a second, they had
a big night tonight. You want to talk about two
baseball teams. Did the two biggest, most high profile baseball
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teams just going just racing in opposite directions. You have
the Dodge, you mentioned them off the top of the show.
The Dodgers were playing tonight, and look, the only concern
you have for the Dodgers really, are they peaking too early?
Because they are just beating everybody. They get postponed tonight,
they have to play a doubleheader tomorrow. They start at
nine am LA time. They got to play the second
game thirty minutes after the first game is over. Dodgers
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aren't happy, but they have first world problems.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Well saltiness to it, because you lose a Kershaw start,
you have a rain delay that isn't rain driven, it's
in the forecast, it's in the area, all of those things.
But since we just went through a lot of that
on Sunday here locally, I think folks understand. You know,
you've got to be prepared.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, you know, it's first world problems for the Dodgers.
Be prepared for the chance of a life.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's yeah, I laid that up. I figured you'd take
the bait.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Then you had tonight you had the Yankees on the
heels of Brian Cashman, Yankee general manager, saying this season
has been a disaster. Aaron Judge, it's three home runs
tonight and the Yankees break a nine game losing streak
that it takes. Had they lost tonight, it would have
been their first ten game losing streak since nineteen thirteen,
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unlike the Mets, who have ten game losing streak seemingly
every couple of weeks. Their first ten game losing streak
for the Yankees since nineteen thirteen. But they have fallen
out of the race. And here you have the general
manager saying it's a complete disaster and everybody's is gonna
be overlooked and and and and picked over in the offseason.
What did we tell you last week? It's gonna be
(09:07):
a triple crown of newness for the Yankees, new GM,
new manager, new players. I mean, Brian Cashman's trying to
get out in front of this right now by saying, hey,
we need changes.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I'm told you man, I'm gonna lead.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I'm gonna lead those changes. No wait, wait, wait, dude,
you are just you are responsible for why we need
to other. Yeah, but I'm gonna I'm gonna lead the change.
I'm gonna push these other guys out the window, and
now I'm gonna lead that change. Uh No, Brian Cashman
needs needs to be replaced for the for the I'm
not just like any Yankee fan who says you gotta
get rid of everybody. No, right now, Yankee fans are
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right when they say that they need new direction. And
we've told you, we told you last week. Look, this
is how bad it is that the Yankees next season
should be an unrecognizable team from what you see right now,
whether it's in the front office, manager because Aaron Boone's
not gonna survive this, and players. You watch them buy
out some players in free up contract and free up
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playing time. You're gonna see guys like Stanton go. Maybe
they wind up trying to move Garrett Cole because they
have to get better. It's much bigger than just all
if we add one or two guys. No, they need pitching,
they need bullpen, they need starting pitching, they need bullpen,
they need hitting, they need everything. The Yankees need every
This is not a good team. You finish in last
place for a reason. You don't go from last place
to suddenly hey made a couple of moves and we're
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in the World Series. It's not the NFL. You can't
go from five to twelve to the Super Bowl like
you can in the National Football League. But the Yankees,
it's gonna be completely new. They are imploding. And the
only reason Aaron Boone will make it to the end
of the season is because the Yankees don't want to
put any more attention on this downward spiral they are on.
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But it's gonna be everything new next year. You talk
about Tomorrow's Takes the night before this was Today's Takes
a week and a half ago, and we said, you
watch what happens to the Yankees unrecognizable in the spring.
Two teams, the two most high profile teams in baseball,
they are just decided, we are getting as far away
from each other as we could potentially get, and we
are taking rocket ships to get there. The Dodgers are
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going up the standings despite the fact they didn't bring
in any star power. The deadline and the Eggs are saying, nope,
we are going the other way completely. We are we
are falling off the cliff all the way down as
far as we can go. Let's hear from Brian Cashman's
lips himself about how disastrous this season has been.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
It's just, you know, it's been a disaster this season,
and yeah, it's definitely a shock. Certainly. I don't think
anybody on our side of the fence, from our player group,
from our coaches or manager, or even outside the organization,
SAW would have predicted this.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He sounds like Belichick, doesn't he. Yeah, a little bit
of Belichick right there. We're we're onto twenty twenty four.
We're on the next season, We're on a next season.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah. I mean, they got a couple of guys at
Triple A that might be on the verge of getting
getting the call up right outfielder Florial, he's got good
five tool ability. What he's got nineteen stolen bases, twenty
three home run seventeen doubles. A guy that they've been
waiting on. They just promoted Jason Dominguez, who he'd heard
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of years ago. He's still I think he's twenty. They
call him the Martian. Go look at his baseball cards
to figure out why that is. But he kind of
looks like dumb dumb our guy from the the Flintstones
from Back in the Zoo. Zoo. He's got a little
bit of that in him. But they've got a couple
of guys on the right. Look, I still think Cashman
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gets his stay of execution. I think Steinbrenner he's like
some of these owners we've seen in different locations that
have that loyalty right that Jerry Jones will keep you
around and you've done well enough, because it's hard to
argue like, obviously, this is a failed year, this is
an absolute disaster, but they win ninety plus games every year.
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It's like, what's It's the argument and discussion we had
at Michigan when there were a bunch of dopes calling
for Jim Harbaugh's job. Right, what's your standard? You're not
a perennial title team, but the guy's winning nine ten
games a year and has you in the hunt in
December to go play meaningful games and potentially punch a
ticket to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Maybe get you cheese burgers at the same time.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Oh sorry, so there was no cheese on that?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Is that one less game because there was no cheese?
If that, if that had no cheese and no thousand Island,
can I get that suspension down to two?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I proved there was no cheese and no dairy on
that plate. What's soever.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Maybe legally you could say, hey, that's incorrect. It was
not cheeseburger, it was hamburger. This whole thing has to
get thrown out, has to get thrown out. It gets
gotta go.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
It's injurious. I like the defamatory.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I like that slipping. Jimmy could figure that out. I
bet you breaking bad figure that out.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, look, this is how it goes, right, this is
exactly how it goes. It's gonna be everything new for
the Yankees. And yeah, Cashman's gonna try to swim to
shore and be the guy I'd have grabbed the life raft.
But telling you everything's gonna be new, unrecognized. They may
not even wear pinstripes next year. They may go to
polka dots, not even that. They they may change.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Every names on the back of jerseys, and they'll uh,
they'll change the uh, the fabric, just like Costanza said
all those years ago.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh, the Yankees look so comfortable in these uniforms. Hey
they're wearing They're wearing the inner Miami pink with the
collars on it. Look at that. It looks so good
when they're losing, uh Twitter and out about a Fresco
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And what is going to happen with a former first
round quarterback who now might be eminently available in trade.
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As we get closer and closer to Week three of
the NFL preseason, we got big stories today. Trey Lance
now officially the odd man out in San Francisco. Teams
are calling the Colts about Jonathan Taylor every day. There's
a Jets headline. It doesn't matter. Aaron Rodgers picked up
the grass at practice today. What does that mean? It's
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a huge headline every day there is something with the Jets,
but no better person to bring in right now and
break it down with US NFL Network Super Bowl winning
head coach Brian Billick. Coach, what's happening? How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I'm doing great chet. How you guys join?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Good coach.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I know you're doing a lot of great work with
X tech shoulder pads. You can tell us about it
in a couple of seconds. But I kind of expected
to see you on hard knocks with these right they
flew live Schreiber in on a helicopter. You can maybe
get on hard you were on it before you could
do it again.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Sure, we got to have the best of hard knocks.
They had to bring us all back together. And you
know it's amazing the power of that. I don't you know.
If I'm out and about if ten people come up
to me, five will say, oh, your super Bowl coach.
The other five will go, oh, hard knocks.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's amazing to me.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Because you know what I remember, and I remember this
vividly from your hard knocks is when when they first
said this is what a play call is like in
the NFL, and it was you and one of your
assistants just going, oh, well, when we do this, and
how complicated it was. And I think I now fans go,
oh my god, that's a play like, that's a play
goes on forever and you go back and forth in
the language. I will never forget that part of it.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Well, maybe it was a little too too complicated.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, yeah, because the Jets is just hey, Aaron Rodgers,
throw the ball wherever you want to. Things are gonna
work out for us.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
That that's how I was going for this back for exactly,
or the old Brett Farb where he used to just
go up finding a scrimmage takes stat caun'ton't even call play,
just you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So what do you think so far of everything going
on with the Jets, all the attention going on to
them every day. They get their offensive tackle back today
and Dwayne Brown, Corey Davis walks away from the team.
There's been a lot of drama. What do you think
so far? How this is unfolded?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Well, it's to be expected. One, it's New York, Okay. Two,
it's the Jets. You know, they really haven't had that
kind of personality in New York, you know, forever at
that quarterback position, so you knew it was going to
be that way. I think they're going to be a
good football team. I think Aaron Rodgers. I mean the
last five, six, seven years, what have we been talking
about about how Aaron Rodgers takes whatever group of receivers
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they wanted to run through in Green Bay and kind
of raise their level of play and get them to
a certain level. Well, now he's going to do it
with an entire offense. It's going to be exciting to
see what happens.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Coach, on the other end of the spectrum, we've got
the situation playing out in San Francisco. Sam Darnold, now
at step was, says, the number two is Trey Lance
just a victim of circumstance, having gone to a good
team and not being able to develop. I mean, what's
best for him going forward?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Well, yeah, I mean I think putting him a third
is the clearer signals. You know, it's hard to say
that Sam Darnold actually beat him out, or is that
San Francisco saying, you know what, Rock Perty is our
guy to have Trey Lance here sitting in behind him,
it is probably not a good thing because it's, you know,
the first bump in the road. It's okay, let's go
with Trey Lance. So basically kind of makes it official that, Okay,
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he's on the trading block. Someone can someone can look to,
you know, maybe pick him up, you know, because clearly
brock Perty is going to be the guy. I think
it's fascinating that we have the last pick of the
twenty twenty two draft Rock Purty a quarterback contrast to
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the first pick of the twenty three draft, Bryce Young,
and just just the story that that tells you and
watching all the young quarterbacks, whether it's Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud,
Anthony Richards and see how they come along, you know,
in the in the in their you know, first year
in the NFL and the expectations to come with how
do you.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Feel as a coach when you put all the work
you can, Hey, this is our guy at the top
of the draft. This is and then somebody like brock
Perty shows up, who's mister irrelevant and as someone who
could be quarterbacking in the Super Bowl? What's that like
when you see something like that unfold.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Well, it just it goes. It underlines just what I
wrote my book, The Q Factor, and I stole it
from some producer. But you don't remember. Nobody knows anything.
I mean, it's amazing when you look at particularly today,
with the analytics and all the information we have in
the resources and what we take them through, and it's
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still a fifty to fifty proposition whether our first round
pick is going to be a guy or not. Now
I have no idea of whether it's going to be
Bryce Young or Stroud or Richardson, but history tells us
that one, maybe two of those three are not going
to make it, aren't going to be successful. So yeah,
it's fascinating how that happens.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Coach, you talk about hard knocks and your experience there,
your former team, the Ravens, just had that long streak snapped.
How important was it to you? I mean you you
started off eight to zero in your first couple of
seasons as preseason there with the Ravens. How much does
that play into it what the season becomes.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well, no, if you extrapolate anything from the preseason and
the regular season, you do it. You chase some fools
gold there. It's not a bad thing. I mean, you
prefer to win. And I don't know that the Ravens
have done anything different. You know, those said, well they
have played the starter is longer. They well, no, they don't.
They just they've gotten into a rhythm. They had a
(21:45):
good formula. It's been successful. It certainly keeps you energized
during camp, and it's a good thing. But rather, you know,
it's better than the alternatives. But you know, preseasons and
particularly now, it's just the three preseason games and the
limit the time that you had your starters. Yeah, I
don't I need just I got to be careful about
drawing too many conclusions from the preseason going into the
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regular season.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Super Bowl Chack Brian Billick with us here Jason Smith,
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All right, so to get from the quarterbacks of the
running back situation on everybody's lips, if you were making
the call right now, Jonathan Taylor is eminently available and
looks like the Colts say they want a first round
pick or the equivalent of a first round pick, what
would you offer for him? If if you had the
power to say, hey, you needed a running back and
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he was great for you, what would you offer?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Well, that's probably the market. I don't know. I don't
have the chart in front of me. Of course, it's
all quantified now in terms of the history of what
a first round is worth in terms of a running back.
Certainly running backs has been deemed valued a little bit
because you tend to figure, well, I can get as
much value in the second or third round at the
running back position as I can in the first round.
At least that's the way the draft is gone. So
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is he truly worth the first round pick? And where
where is that first round picks? Is an early first
round versus late first round. I'm really surprised that Indianapolis
is not bringing back I mean to support you talk
about what you need to support your first overall pick
in Anthony Richardson, Well, there's nothing better than a good
running game, and certainly Jonathan Taylor represents that. So I'm
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a little surprised, But he had The money factor is
always going to step in and there's going to be
a lot of teams that are interested in Jonathan Taylor.
Will they part with a first round pick? You know,
if it's a pretty good team that pick is likely
going to be a late first round. Sure, if your
team that's struggling, what we need the running back, that
you could very well be there in the early part
of the draft next year as well. I don't know
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that they're going to want to do that.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Coach, we had a lot come out in Sean Payton
obviously stepped in it or created something with his Nathaniel
Hackett comments, look at last year, how much can he
coax out of Russell Wilson? How much was the regime
versus the player himself.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, Sean Payton wasn't going to come back or just
anybody or you know, he was going to make sure
he had a quarterback in place. You know, he all
the success he had in New Orleans with with Drew Brees,
who they got from San Diego. He wasn't going to
take a chance on well, okay, a high draft choice
and I'll take one of these guys and develop them.
So obviously he thinks a lot of what he's got
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at the quarterback position, and he should. You know, I
see nothing, you know, to think that all of a sudden,
now this guy can't play, I think is a little
bit faulty. I think Sean Payton will do a good
job of wrapping some things around him and that match him.
He's going to make sure he's not going to you know,
Russell Wilson has not been the three five seven step
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time route. That's not Russell Wilson. And he's going to
get him in the deep drops and the half boots
and waggles and let him get him the throws down
the field and try to surround some talent to make
that thing go. So John Payton, you know, he he
took that job for a specific reason, so obviously he
thinks that Russell Wilson can still play.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
All right, Coach, you mentioned a couple minutes ago he
continue doing great stuff with X tach and shoulder pads.
Tell me about what stuff that's going on right now?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Well, you know, with eight years now and all of
a sudden you look up and here with the number
one pad and pro football, number one pad in major
college football, high school football. I'm excited because we're right
on the custom of now beating into the youth leads.
I've got two grandsons and I can't wait to get
them the next tech pad because it's the best protection
on the market. Hands down. Parents need to be vested
in this. They need to go to x tech pads
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dot com, one hundred percent American made. It can be
built and shipped within a day, you know, rather than
just the old hand me down pads that everybody always gets.
Parents need to invest themselves and recognize this is the
best way to protect these kids in a very physical game.
But it's a great game and we need to keep
protected and next Tech Pads is the way to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, I hear you. I remember when I played now.
I played in the eighties. I remember when they get
because I was like five five, they give me a
pair of shoulder pads. I'm like, these are too big,
I'm gonna fall over. I could believe I stayed upright
running down the field as much as I did.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, that's the great thing about it. It's like anything
we do now, the way we train, everything about is
kind of tailor made. These pads are almost tailor made
for you. The database you have now based on high
wait position, injury history, level of play. I mean that
the pads are basically created for you.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Big testimonial from Daniel Jones on x tech Pads on
Brian Billick's Twitter page. You could get it there at
Brian Billick and check out xtechpads dot com. It's at
xtechpads dot com. Coaches always appreciate your time. Thanks so much.
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Sounds great, thanks coach.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
There go, There goes Brian Billick. I remember when the
first time when I gave because I was so excited
to go out for football right when when I was
when I was in high school. It's exciting, exciting, and
then I'm like, oh, I gotta wear all these pads.
I got again. I get the hip pads and I go, okay,
I get the thigh pads and the knee pads, and
the shoulder pads are like here you go, these are
your shoulder pads. I go, this is just too big.
I look like one of those dancers from the eighties
(26:48):
that had the shoulder pads on that would go all
the way out, or like like in the zoot suit
riot when when when swing dancing came back in the
late nineties, I'm like, hey, that's kuy what I looked like.
I really I don't know how I stayed upright in
those shoulder pads here. This is what we have in
the in the locker room. Can I get a different part? Nope, Nope,
got it with these all right? I guess dude.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
I remember legitimately having to go and duct tape things together.
The stuff was broken. It's like, can you replace these? Nah?
Just make it work. I mean they'll be under your
pants so it'll be okay. It's like, no, it's the
hip pad is in three parts. Come on now, No.
This is great, great technology, and we talk about it.
(27:28):
We've talked a lot about helmets and helmet technology, but
the rest of it has to catch.
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coming up today. We'll have Trey Lance the latest on
his situation coming up in a few minutes. But what
(29:26):
did I tell you on Monday? I'm gonna double down
on it right now. Jonathan Taylor will be on a
new team by Saturday. It's going to happen. Today we
get the news that the Colts, who have given Taylor
until Tuesday to find a suitable trade because Tuesday is
when Rochters Actory trimmed down to fifty three, six teams
(29:48):
having quiet about Taylor's availability, and two of them have
engaged the Colts with offers. This according to ESPN, this
is the one smart thing the Colts did right. Stupid
by Jim to take on his best player, stupid to
insult him by saying if you weren't on the team,
nobody would care. The NFL just moves on stupid, stupid, stupid,
(30:08):
but smart by streamlining the request and saying, if you
want Jonathan Taylor first round pick or the equivalent. Now
you know what we want, call us. And this is
why you have all these teams. That's why you have
six teams calling and not just one or two stiffing
around going get her say on the phone. But the
minute he starts saying, we're not gonna give the guy
away or just hang up, just out, just hang up
(30:31):
the phone. So they streamlined that process and they made
it easy. And now six teams, that's pretty good to
have already. Hey we want Jonathan Taylor. We're gonna here's
our offers. And the other reason why he's gonna be
gone is because ERSA wants him gone. They wouldn't have
gone through this whole situation to say, go find your
trade by Tuesday if they didn't want him out. I
(30:53):
don't know that that they can afford to even keep
him on the roster, as as as combative as this
has been, because what's gonna stop Taylor from saying, yeah, nope,
can't go right now? You miss the first four games, Okay, Yeah,
I don't care. I'm not gonna play seventeen games. I'm
not gonna I'm gonna put myself in all that danger.
I'm gonna come back when I am good and ready,
and I'm gonna give you a certain number of games
(31:13):
so I can get out there. Now. It's not going
to work for either side for him to stay. They're
not going to extend him, certainly not coming off of this.
He's not gonna get any more money from the Colts.
He's not gonna be happy. They don't want it franchise him,
they don't want to extend him. So, yeah, the best
offer is gonna win this. It may not be a
first round pick. It could be a second and a third.
(31:34):
It could be a late first round pick if they
really got down to it. But whatever that best offer is,
by Saturday, Taylor's gone to somebody else.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah. I really wanted to be a full on standoff.
I'm not gonna lie. Let's see what you're willing to do,
because remember every game you skip.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You want you wanted, Like reporters outside of Taylor's house yelling, Jonathan,
will you come to the window, Will you tell us
what your demands are?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I mean you wanted to see that something like that. Yeah,
watched enough.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Local news outside Jim r We're outside Jim Mersey's house
right now. We saw him at the front window a
few moments ago. We're hoping he comes out to address
us any moment now. As the standoff moves in to
day seventeen.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
And there's a puff of smoke. May elected a new poper.
They're cooking something nice in their roaster. No, I look,
just from the idea of giving into demands, it's like,
you're gonna make four million dollars this year they decided,
and look, obviously he went nuclear. I like it because
it's good theater. Obviously it's poor business what Jim Mersay did.
(32:34):
But the recognition if if you start playing the game
of I'm kind of in, I'm kind of not because
there are already still questions about how healthy his ankle
truly is Jason, So if all of a sudden you're
gonna start dancing around that, what the hell kind of
offer you getting in a running back market? Going forward? Right?
As good as he was in the past in twenty
twenty one and the dominants that we've seen, and we
(32:56):
saw it a couple of times last year. He had
two Monster games in the eleven that he played. But
it's like it's a dangerous game he starts to play
as well, But best for all involved to just move
on and figure out how to cobble together a running
back room without him.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'll tell you what I will be surprised at. I
will be surprised because Taylor wants to get paid. He's
gonna need to get something else to say, all right,
I'll report to this team. Because while he doesn't have
a no trade clause, players still has the power. All
he's got to do is say yeah, I'm not going there,
and then you're really stuck.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
But that's the other thing. Right If if I'm a team,
am I taking him on and guaranteeing them ten million
for next year? Well?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
No, I think they will. I think you're gonna see
a team. This is how it's gonna get done. They're
gonna say, okay, come here, four million this year and
maybe if they have money left over in the you
know whatever they have, because look' you're either spending the
money this year or you're not right. It's why the
Jets are able to get Dalvin Cook. Hey we had
the eight million dollars. We can either use it or
not for a one year deal or did his deal
(33:55):
of course, right, But they have What I'm saying is
teams have the money. Now, you're not gonna go out
and get somebody be crazy free agent wise. You have
the money, you're either gonna use it or you're not.
So you're gonna see something that's gonna say, Okay, what
do we have left? Well, we got eight million dollars left?
All right, why don't we give him an extra two
million for this year? Give him six million, and then
why don't we do twelve million for next year and
(34:16):
we guarantee eight of it or something like that. There's
gonna be some kind of addition to Taylor where he's
gonna say yes, I'll go. So now he's getting a
little bit more money this year, and he's getting a
lot of it guaranteed next year, because wouldn't you say yes?
You say, wait a minute, I can get six million
guaranteed this year and another eight miss sect at least
fourteen million guaranteed between now and a year from now. Okay,
(34:37):
I'll accept that trade because he's not getting from Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Well, we know you can always do some fuzzy math,
right and move moneys around, just like the Jets had
with Aaron Rodgers to open up to event, because they
may need to still make another move here, right, Jason
Peters is sniffing around, saying, oh yeah, I'd show up
if they called me.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Everybody wants to be a jet man. Everybody wants to
be a jet It's glorious.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Glorious check and then the potential to win. But the
other thing I would have done if I was the
Colts in all of this, would have just been all right,
we're not guaranteeing you anymore this year, but you want
to do the Austin Eckler deal, Let's have at it.
Here's another two to three million dollars you can earn
by dominating and and go from there. Instead, everybody gets
(35:19):
mad all the he said, he said behind the scenes,
and then Ursa grabbed the microphone like he was front
and center at Madison Square Garden and said, all right,
here's one from our new album beat It.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Look, and you're gonna have to because you're also not
gonna trade for him and give up a first round
pick or the equivalent unless you have him for more
than justice. Sure, So that's that's gonna have. Somebody for
the next two years is gonna be very happy with
Jonathan Taylor and the coach.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
And you were saying, gambler, what.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Do we do now? We just give the ball to
Anthony Richardson and hope he's good. That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
He's gonna run a lot exit.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
How about a yeah, hey, all the Jonathan Taylor plays.
Give him to Anthony, let him run him exit out
About a Fresca exit swollen dome coming up? Next, we
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we have some big baseball stuff to get to. Dodgers
just got postponed, so now they got to play at
six o'clock in the morning tomorrow. It feels like six
in the morning. But yeah, look we talk about when
you look back at twenty twenty three, one of the
big memories is going to be in sports. It's the
year soccer cut through and became the fourth true major sport.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We're gonna see it over the next few years, the
growth of this game because of Leonel Messi. And this
is like the fourth time in the last two and
a half weeks that we open the show with something
heart stopping involving Messi, as Miami has just beaten Cincinnati
FC in penalties again the Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase
we're at watching on the sideline. Messi scores in penalties
(01:38):
and Miami wins three to three aggregate five to four
on penalties in the US Open Cup and inner Miami's
gone from a team that's at the bottom of the barrel.
They may never lose again. They may never lose again
all the way to the MLS Cup. Even if they
don't make the playoffs, they'll still win the MLS Cup.
It'll still happen eight.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Straight And watching the Wizardry, they actually did the ISO
so you had a second view of the game if
you were watching on your Apple Plus, where it just
tracked Messi the entire time. And he's one of those guys.
He's not moving fast all the time kind but still
moving right, circling and then you get the big burst
(02:17):
and a couple of huge assists, one with about a
minute and a half remaining in regulation time, right and
just watching the flow of this game and the energy
in that crowd from the the opening kick, just an
amazing run. Yeah, a lot of shots of the Bengals
up in the boot that kept showing nods up there
(02:38):
over the course of the game. But it it's a
real phenomenon that you got going on here, and certainly
social media for those that haven't subscribed to the Pass
and everything that flows out of these games. They did
their best within about a half a minute to capture
those goals and get them up for you. You didn't
(03:00):
miss a beat. So it's in perfect syncreticity right now.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh, going back to nineteen eighty four and the Police
before Sting went out on his own synchronicity.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
The Big album nicely does.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So yeah, look it's just gonna continue any time. Leono
Messi plays is a headline, tell me another guy in
sports besides Otani Well and Aaron Rodgers. I mean, those
are the n lebron those are your four guys. That's
your four mount Rushmore of when these guys play, everything
stops because Rogers this year because of the drama surrounding him,
not just because of the quer he's had, but the
(03:31):
drama surrounding Rodgers, Otani, Lebron and Messi. They stop time.
These four guys stop, Hey are they playing tonight? Whatever
else is going on that could take a back seat
if these guys have a big night, if they have
a horrible night, if they have a night where something
comes up from the game that's dramatic. These are the
four guys. This is my carbon, This is your Mount
Rushmore of the four guys that matter the most in
(03:54):
sports right now. But these are the guys that stop
everything when they're playing right now.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
That's your four Mount Rushmore. Yeah, Mount mart Rushmore. Talk
was supposed to be in July. Did you not get
the memo that was Sports Talk Radio of our ancestors.
That is not what we do here?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Is that a July time? I don't know that's a
July topic number?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Because you were supposed to have the dead time, right,
isn't Isn't that what it always was? The number four?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, but instead we had Aaron Rodgers the Jets. Yeah,
we just just we're gonna hear number five, number seven,
all number ten, yeah, all stuff left over from when
Jim Cutler I voiced over the NBA pick. So I
just give you number one, number two, all the way
to thirty. Okay, right here you go all.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
The way through. Add Francesis, countdown to it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Number twenty seven, number thirty, number sixty four, number one
hundred and twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And then you get to the end. He just says,
mister irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Number two hundred and eighty six, number two hundred and
eighty seven. How many more of these do I have
to do? I know I'm contracted to finish all these things,
but I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I attracted you for two hours forty three minutes. Keep going.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
But just that those are the four guys that stop
everything right now, and it's hard to argue that there's
other people at that level still. And Lebron is gonna
be thirty eight years old, he's still that guy. Rodgers
is thirty nine, he's that guy. Otani is just someone
that does when he hits a home run, when he
comes out of the game early like he did earlier today,
when Messi scores, when he doesn't score, they stop everything.
(05:18):
It's amazing that this is how fast I told you
in twenty twenty three, its shown up because Rogers has
been this guy, Lebron's been this guy for twenty years,
Otani's been this guy for now going on two years.
And now here's Messi who's been in the MLS for
about eight seconds, and all of a sudden, mussy TV
Mussey reporting must see everything. These are your four guys.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Well on this weekend we finally get a regular season appearance.
Right now that League's Cup is as a final, and
and this is over and we get back into league play.
But I'll just take you back the other day, right
they win League's Cup, and just the shots of David Beckham.
For folks that didn't watch it, go quick do the
(05:59):
quick Google's search, grab it on x Twitter or whatever
the hell we're calling it today, and just look at
the way he's looking at the pitch, looking at the
reaction after the victory. I mean that tells you you're
pushing that next thing forward, right because he was the guy,
he was carrying it forward. And you know, as we
always say, someone's got to be first, and that was him.
(06:20):
But now he's getting to watch some of the fruits
of his labor and watching what messy means to this
next iteration of things, the next generation. And we've talked
about it a lot, and you can get into the heritage,
you get into the population change, you get into how
participation rates for soccer and everything else. Add it all up,
(06:43):
you've got a time where there's excitement and let's face it,
people like to be and associate be around and associate
themselves with greatness. And when this guy's got the ball
off his foot and anything can happen at any point
in the field, right, And we've watched that time and
time again, so it keeps you coming back for more
and glad we're here to help usher in that new era.
(07:06):
I will be ready with my hot pink kit.
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So we'll have more on this, more reaction as we
continue on tonight, but just for a second, they had
a big night tonight. You want to talk about two
baseball teams. Did the two biggest, most high profile baseball
(07:31):
teams just going just racing in opposite directions. You have
the Dodge, you mentioned them off the top of the show.
The Dodgers were playing tonight, and look, the only concern
you have for the Dodgers really, are they peaking too early?
Because they are just beating everybody. They get postponed tonight,
they have to play a doubleheader tomorrow. They start at
nine am LA time. They got to play the second
game thirty minutes after the first game is over. Dodgers
(07:53):
aren't happy, but they have first world problems.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Well saltiness to it, because you lose a Kershaw start,
you have a rain delay that isn't rain driven, it's
in the forecast, it's in the area, all of those things.
But since we just went through a lot of that
on Sunday here locally, I think folks understand. You know,
you've got to be prepared.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, you know, it's first world problems for the Dodgers.
Be prepared for the chance of a life.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's yeah, I laid that up. I figured you'd take
the bait.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Then you had tonight you had the Yankees on the
heels of Brian Cashman, Yankee general manager, saying this season
has been a disaster. Aaron Judge, it's three home runs
tonight and the Yankees break a nine game losing streak
that it takes. Had they lost tonight, it would have
been their first ten game losing streak since nineteen thirteen,
(08:44):
unlike the Mets, who have ten game losing streak seemingly
every couple of weeks. Their first ten game losing streak
for the Yankees since nineteen thirteen. But they have fallen
out of the race. And here you have the general
manager saying it's a complete disaster and everybody's is gonna
be overlooked and and and and picked over in the offseason.
What did we tell you last week? It's gonna be
(09:07):
a triple crown of newness for the Yankees, new GM,
new manager, new players. I mean, Brian Cashman's trying to
get out in front of this right now by saying, hey,
we need changes.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I'm told you man, I'm gonna lead.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I'm gonna lead those changes. No wait, wait, wait, dude,
you are just you are responsible for why we need
to other. Yeah, but I'm gonna I'm gonna lead the change.
I'm gonna push these other guys out the window, and
now I'm gonna lead that change. Uh No, Brian Cashman
needs needs to be replaced for the for the I'm
not just like any Yankee fan who says you gotta
get rid of everybody. No, right now, Yankee fans are
(09:40):
right when they say that they need new direction. And
we've told you, we told you last week. Look, this
is how bad it is that the Yankees next season
should be an unrecognizable team from what you see right now,
whether it's in the front office, manager because Aaron Boone's
not gonna survive this, and players. You watch them buy
out some players in free up contract and free up
(10:00):
playing time. You're gonna see guys like Stanton go. Maybe
they wind up trying to move Garrett Cole because they
have to get better. It's much bigger than just all
if we add one or two guys. No, they need pitching,
they need bullpen, they need starting pitching, they need bullpen,
they need hitting, they need everything. The Yankees need every
This is not a good team. You finish in last
place for a reason. You don't go from last place
to suddenly hey made a couple of moves and we're
(10:22):
in the World Series. It's not the NFL. You can't
go from five to twelve to the Super Bowl like
you can in the National Football League. But the Yankees,
it's gonna be completely new. They are imploding. And the
only reason Aaron Boone will make it to the end
of the season is because the Yankees don't want to
put any more attention on this downward spiral they are on.
(10:43):
But it's gonna be everything new next year. You talk
about Tomorrow's Takes the night before this was Today's Takes
a week and a half ago, and we said, you
watch what happens to the Yankees unrecognizable in the spring.
Two teams, the two most high profile teams in baseball,
they are just decided, we are getting as far away
from each other as we could potentially get, and we
are taking rocket ships to get there. The Dodgers are
(11:04):
going up the standings despite the fact they didn't bring
in any star power. The deadline and the Eggs are saying, nope,
we are going the other way completely. We are we
are falling off the cliff all the way down as
far as we can go. Let's hear from Brian Cashman's
lips himself about how disastrous this season has been.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
It's just, you know, it's been a disaster this season,
and yeah, it's definitely a shock. Certainly. I don't think
anybody on our side of the fence, from our player group,
from our coaches or manager, or even outside the organization,
SAW would have predicted this.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He sounds like Belichick, doesn't he. Yeah, a little bit
of Belichick right there. We're we're onto twenty twenty four.
We're on the next season, We're on a next season.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah. I mean, they got a couple of guys at
Triple A that might be on the verge of getting
getting the call up right outfielder Florial, he's got good
five tool ability. What he's got nineteen stolen bases, twenty
three home run seventeen doubles. A guy that they've been
waiting on. They just promoted Jason Dominguez, who he'd heard
(12:06):
of years ago. He's still I think he's twenty. They
call him the Martian. Go look at his baseball cards
to figure out why that is. But he kind of
looks like dumb dumb our guy from the the Flintstones
from Back in the Zoo. Zoo. He's got a little
bit of that in him. But they've got a couple
of guys on the right. Look, I still think Cashman
(12:29):
gets his stay of execution. I think Steinbrenner he's like
some of these owners we've seen in different locations that
have that loyalty right that Jerry Jones will keep you
around and you've done well enough, because it's hard to
argue like, obviously, this is a failed year, this is
an absolute disaster, but they win ninety plus games every year.
(12:51):
It's like, what's It's the argument and discussion we had
at Michigan when there were a bunch of dopes calling
for Jim Harbaugh's job. Right, what's your standard? You're not
a perennial title team, but the guy's winning nine ten
games a year and has you in the hunt in
December to go play meaningful games and potentially punch a
ticket to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Maybe get you cheese burgers at the same time.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Oh sorry, so there was no cheese on that?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Is that one less game because there was no cheese?
If that, if that had no cheese and no thousand Island,
can I get that suspension down to two?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I proved there was no cheese and no dairy on
that plate. What's soever.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Maybe legally you could say, hey, that's incorrect. It was
not cheeseburger, it was hamburger. This whole thing has to
get thrown out, has to get thrown out. It gets
gotta go.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
It's injurious. I like the defamatory.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I like that slipping. Jimmy could figure that out. I
bet you breaking bad figure that out.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, look, this is how it goes, right, this is
exactly how it goes. It's gonna be everything new for
the Yankees. And yeah, Cashman's gonna try to swim to
shore and be the guy I'd have grabbed the life raft.
But telling you everything's gonna be new, unrecognized. They may
not even wear pinstripes next year. They may go to
polka dots, not even that. They they may change.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Every names on the back of jerseys, and they'll uh,
they'll change the uh, the fabric, just like Costanza said
all those years ago.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh, the Yankees look so comfortable in these uniforms. Hey
they're wearing They're wearing the inner Miami pink with the
collars on it. Look at that. It looks so good
when they're losing, uh Twitter and out about a Fresco
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Teams are calling for Jonathan Taylor? Could that trade happen soon?
And what is going to happen with a former first
round quarterback who now might be eminently available in trade.
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As we get closer and closer to Week three of
the NFL preseason, we got big stories today. Trey Lance
now officially the odd man out in San Francisco. Teams
are calling the Colts about Jonathan Taylor every day. There's
a Jets headline. It doesn't matter. Aaron Rodgers picked up
the grass at practice today. What does that mean? It's
(16:34):
a huge headline every day there is something with the Jets,
but no better person to bring in right now and
break it down with US NFL Network Super Bowl winning
head coach Brian Billick. Coach, what's happening? How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I'm doing great chet. How you guys join?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Good coach.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I know you're doing a lot of great work with
X tech shoulder pads. You can tell us about it
in a couple of seconds. But I kind of expected
to see you on hard knocks with these right they
flew live Schreiber in on a helicopter. You can maybe
get on hard you were on it before you could
do it again.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Sure, we got to have the best of hard knocks.
They had to bring us all back together. And you
know it's amazing the power of that. I don't you know.
If I'm out and about if ten people come up
to me, five will say, oh, your super Bowl coach.
The other five will go, oh, hard knocks.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's amazing to me.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Because you know what I remember, and I remember this
vividly from your hard knocks is when when they first
said this is what a play call is like in
the NFL, and it was you and one of your
assistants just going, oh, well, when we do this, and
how complicated it was. And I think I now fans go,
oh my god, that's a play like, that's a play
goes on forever and you go back and forth in
the language. I will never forget that part of it.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Well, maybe it was a little too too complicated.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, yeah, because the Jets is just hey, Aaron Rodgers,
throw the ball wherever you want to. Things are gonna
work out for us.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
That that's how I was going for this back for exactly,
or the old Brett Farb where he used to just
go up finding a scrimmage takes stat caun'ton't even call play,
just you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So what do you think so far of everything going
on with the Jets, all the attention going on to
them every day. They get their offensive tackle back today
and Dwayne Brown, Corey Davis walks away from the team.
There's been a lot of drama. What do you think
so far? How this is unfolded?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Well, it's to be expected. One, it's New York, Okay. Two,
it's the Jets. You know, they really haven't had that
kind of personality in New York, you know, forever at
that quarterback position, so you knew it was going to
be that way. I think they're going to be a
good football team. I think Aaron Rodgers. I mean the
last five, six, seven years, what have we been talking
about about how Aaron Rodgers takes whatever group of receivers
(18:42):
they wanted to run through in Green Bay and kind
of raise their level of play and get them to
a certain level. Well, now he's going to do it
with an entire offense. It's going to be exciting to
see what happens.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Coach, on the other end of the spectrum, we've got
the situation playing out in San Francisco. Sam Darnold, now
at step was, says, the number two is Trey Lance
just a victim of circumstance, having gone to a good
team and not being able to develop. I mean, what's
best for him going forward?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Well, yeah, I mean I think putting him a third
is the clearer signals. You know, it's hard to say
that Sam Darnold actually beat him out, or is that
San Francisco saying, you know what, Rock Perty is our
guy to have Trey Lance here sitting in behind him,
it is probably not a good thing because it's, you know,
the first bump in the road. It's okay, let's go
with Trey Lance. So basically kind of makes it official that, Okay,
(19:32):
he's on the trading block. Someone can someone can look to,
you know, maybe pick him up, you know, because clearly
brock Perty is going to be the guy. I think
it's fascinating that we have the last pick of the
twenty twenty two draft Rock Purty a quarterback contrast to
(19:53):
the first pick of the twenty three draft, Bryce Young,
and just just the story that that tells you and
watching all the young quarterbacks, whether it's Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud,
Anthony Richards and see how they come along, you know,
in the in the in their you know, first year
in the NFL and the expectations to come with how
do you.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Feel as a coach when you put all the work
you can, Hey, this is our guy at the top
of the draft. This is and then somebody like brock
Perty shows up, who's mister irrelevant and as someone who
could be quarterbacking in the Super Bowl? What's that like
when you see something like that unfold.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Well, it just it goes. It underlines just what I
wrote my book, The Q Factor, and I stole it
from some producer. But you don't remember. Nobody knows anything.
I mean, it's amazing when you look at particularly today,
with the analytics and all the information we have in
the resources and what we take them through, and it's
(20:46):
still a fifty to fifty proposition whether our first round
pick is going to be a guy or not. Now
I have no idea of whether it's going to be
Bryce Young or Stroud or Richardson, but history tells us
that one, maybe two of those three are not going
to make it, aren't going to be successful. So yeah,
it's fascinating how that happens.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Coach, you talk about hard knocks and your experience there,
your former team, the Ravens, just had that long streak snapped.
How important was it to you? I mean you you
started off eight to zero in your first couple of
seasons as preseason there with the Ravens. How much does
that play into it what the season becomes.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well, no, if you extrapolate anything from the preseason and
the regular season, you do it. You chase some fools
gold there. It's not a bad thing. I mean, you
prefer to win. And I don't know that the Ravens
have done anything different. You know, those said, well they
have played the starter is longer. They well, no, they don't.
They just they've gotten into a rhythm. They had a
(21:45):
good formula. It's been successful. It certainly keeps you energized
during camp, and it's a good thing. But rather, you know,
it's better than the alternatives. But you know, preseasons and
particularly now, it's just the three preseason games and the
limit the time that you had your starters. Yeah, I
don't I need just I got to be careful about
drawing too many conclusions from the preseason going into the
(22:07):
regular season.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Super Bowl Chack Brian Billick with us here Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the tire rack dot Com studios.
All right, so to get from the quarterbacks of the
running back situation on everybody's lips, if you were making
the call right now, Jonathan Taylor is eminently available and
looks like the Colts say they want a first round
pick or the equivalent of a first round pick, what
would you offer for him? If if you had the
power to say, hey, you needed a running back and
(22:29):
he was great for you, what would you offer?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Well, that's probably the market. I don't know. I don't
have the chart in front of me. Of course, it's
all quantified now in terms of the history of what
a first round is worth in terms of a running back.
Certainly running backs has been deemed valued a little bit
because you tend to figure, well, I can get as
much value in the second or third round at the
running back position as I can in the first round.
At least that's the way the draft is gone. So
(22:53):
is he truly worth the first round pick? And where
where is that first round picks? Is an early first
round versus late first round. I'm really surprised that Indianapolis
is not bringing back I mean to support you talk
about what you need to support your first overall pick
in Anthony Richardson, Well, there's nothing better than a good
running game, and certainly Jonathan Taylor represents that. So I'm
(23:16):
a little surprised, But he had The money factor is
always going to step in and there's going to be
a lot of teams that are interested in Jonathan Taylor.
Will they part with a first round pick? You know,
if it's a pretty good team that pick is likely
going to be a late first round. Sure, if your
team that's struggling, what we need the running back, that
you could very well be there in the early part
of the draft next year as well. I don't know
(23:37):
that they're going to want to do that.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Coach, we had a lot come out in Sean Payton
obviously stepped in it or created something with his Nathaniel
Hackett comments, look at last year, how much can he
coax out of Russell Wilson? How much was the regime
versus the player himself.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, Sean Payton wasn't going to come back or just
anybody or you know, he was going to make sure
he had a quarterback in place. You know, he all
the success he had in New Orleans with with Drew Brees,
who they got from San Diego. He wasn't going to
take a chance on well, okay, a high draft choice
and I'll take one of these guys and develop them.
So obviously he thinks a lot of what he's got
(24:17):
at the quarterback position, and he should. You know, I
see nothing, you know, to think that all of a sudden,
now this guy can't play, I think is a little
bit faulty. I think Sean Payton will do a good
job of wrapping some things around him and that match him.
He's going to make sure he's not going to you know,
Russell Wilson has not been the three five seven step
(24:38):
time route. That's not Russell Wilson. And he's going to
get him in the deep drops and the half boots
and waggles and let him get him the throws down
the field and try to surround some talent to make
that thing go. So John Payton, you know, he he
took that job for a specific reason, so obviously he
thinks that Russell Wilson can still play.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
All right, Coach, you mentioned a couple minutes ago he
continue doing great stuff with X tach and shoulder pads.
Tell me about what stuff that's going on right now?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Well, you know, with eight years now and all of
a sudden you look up and here with the number
one pad and pro football, number one pad in major
college football, high school football. I'm excited because we're right
on the custom of now beating into the youth leads.
I've got two grandsons and I can't wait to get
them the next tech pad because it's the best protection
on the market. Hands down. Parents need to be vested
in this. They need to go to x tech pads
(25:23):
dot com, one hundred percent American made. It can be
built and shipped within a day, you know, rather than
just the old hand me down pads that everybody always gets.
Parents need to invest themselves and recognize this is the
best way to protect these kids in a very physical game.
But it's a great game and we need to keep
protected and next Tech Pads is the way to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, I hear you. I remember when I played now.
I played in the eighties. I remember when they get
because I was like five five, they give me a
pair of shoulder pads. I'm like, these are too big,
I'm gonna fall over. I could believe I stayed upright
running down the field as much as I did.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, that's the great thing about it. It's like anything
we do now, the way we train, everything about is
kind of tailor made. These pads are almost tailor made
for you. The database you have now based on high
wait position, injury history, level of play. I mean that
the pads are basically created for you.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Big testimonial from Daniel Jones on x tech Pads on
Brian Billick's Twitter page. You could get it there at
Brian Billick and check out xtechpads dot com. It's at
xtechpads dot com. Coaches always appreciate your time. Thanks so much.
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Sounds great, thanks coach.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
There go, There goes Brian Billick. I remember when the
first time when I gave because I was so excited
to go out for football right when when I was
when I was in high school. It's exciting, exciting, and
then I'm like, oh, I gotta wear all these pads.
I got again. I get the hip pads and I go, okay,
I get the thigh pads and the knee pads, and
the shoulder pads are like here you go, these are
your shoulder pads. I go, this is just too big.
I look like one of those dancers from the eighties
(26:48):
that had the shoulder pads on that would go all
the way out, or like like in the zoot suit
riot when when when swing dancing came back in the
late nineties, I'm like, hey, that's kuy what I looked like.
I really I don't know how I stayed upright in
those shoulder pads here. This is what we have in
the in the locker room. Can I get a different part? Nope, Nope,
got it with these all right? I guess dude.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
I remember legitimately having to go and duct tape things together.
The stuff was broken. It's like, can you replace these? Nah?
Just make it work. I mean they'll be under your
pants so it'll be okay. It's like, no, it's the
hip pad is in three parts. Come on now, No.
This is great, great technology, and we talk about it.
(27:28):
We've talked a lot about helmets and helmet technology, but
the rest of it has to catch.
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We get all kinds of stuff breaking with quarterbacks and
running backs today. Keep it right here Jason and Mike Hawks.
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Thanks to Brian Billeck stopping by with us talking to NFL.
Got more NFL te You got lots of big stories
coming up today. We'll have Trey Lance the latest on
his situation coming up in a few minutes. But what
(29:26):
did I tell you on Monday? I'm gonna double down
on it right now. Jonathan Taylor will be on a
new team by Saturday. It's going to happen. Today we
get the news that the Colts, who have given Taylor
until Tuesday to find a suitable trade because Tuesday is
when Rochters Actory trimmed down to fifty three, six teams
(29:48):
having quiet about Taylor's availability, and two of them have
engaged the Colts with offers. This according to ESPN, this
is the one smart thing the Colts did right. Stupid
by Jim to take on his best player, stupid to
insult him by saying if you weren't on the team,
nobody would care. The NFL just moves on stupid, stupid, stupid,
(30:08):
but smart by streamlining the request and saying, if you
want Jonathan Taylor first round pick or the equivalent. Now
you know what we want, call us. And this is
why you have all these teams. That's why you have
six teams calling and not just one or two stiffing
around going get her say on the phone. But the
minute he starts saying, we're not gonna give the guy
away or just hang up, just out, just hang up
(30:31):
the phone. So they streamlined that process and they made
it easy. And now six teams, that's pretty good to
have already. Hey we want Jonathan Taylor. We're gonna here's
our offers. And the other reason why he's gonna be
gone is because ERSA wants him gone. They wouldn't have
gone through this whole situation to say, go find your
trade by Tuesday if they didn't want him out. I
(30:53):
don't know that that they can afford to even keep
him on the roster, as as as combative as this
has been, because what's gonna stop Taylor from saying, yeah, nope,
can't go right now? You miss the first four games, Okay, Yeah,
I don't care. I'm not gonna play seventeen games. I'm
not gonna I'm gonna put myself in all that danger.
I'm gonna come back when I am good and ready,
and I'm gonna give you a certain number of games
(31:13):
so I can get out there. Now. It's not going
to work for either side for him to stay. They're
not going to extend him, certainly not coming off of this.
He's not gonna get any more money from the Colts.
He's not gonna be happy. They don't want it franchise him,
they don't want to extend him. So, yeah, the best
offer is gonna win this. It may not be a
first round pick. It could be a second and a third.
(31:34):
It could be a late first round pick if they
really got down to it. But whatever that best offer is,
by Saturday, Taylor's gone to somebody else.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah. I really wanted to be a full on standoff.
I'm not gonna lie. Let's see what you're willing to do,
because remember every game you skip.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You want you wanted, Like reporters outside of Taylor's house yelling, Jonathan,
will you come to the window, Will you tell us
what your demands are?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I mean you wanted to see that something like that. Yeah,
watched enough.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Local news outside Jim r We're outside Jim Mersey's house
right now. We saw him at the front window a
few moments ago. We're hoping he comes out to address
us any moment now. As the standoff moves in to
day seventeen.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
And there's a puff of smoke. May elected a new poper.
They're cooking something nice in their roaster. No, I look,
just from the idea of giving into demands, it's like,
you're gonna make four million dollars this year they decided,
and look, obviously he went nuclear. I like it because
it's good theater. Obviously it's poor business what Jim Mersay did.
(32:34):
But the recognition if if you start playing the game
of I'm kind of in, I'm kind of not because
there are already still questions about how healthy his ankle
truly is Jason, So if all of a sudden you're
gonna start dancing around that, what the hell kind of
offer you getting in a running back market? Going forward? Right?
As good as he was in the past in twenty
twenty one and the dominants that we've seen, and we
(32:56):
saw it a couple of times last year. He had
two Monster games in the eleven that he played. But
it's like it's a dangerous game he starts to play
as well, But best for all involved to just move
on and figure out how to cobble together a running
back room without him.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'll tell you what I will be surprised at. I
will be surprised because Taylor wants to get paid. He's
gonna need to get something else to say, all right,
I'll report to this team. Because while he doesn't have
a no trade clause, players still has the power. All
he's got to do is say yeah, I'm not going there,
and then you're really stuck.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
But that's the other thing. Right If if I'm a team,
am I taking him on and guaranteeing them ten million
for next year? Well?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
No, I think they will. I think you're gonna see
a team. This is how it's gonna get done. They're
gonna say, okay, come here, four million this year and
maybe if they have money left over in the you
know whatever they have, because look' you're either spending the
money this year or you're not right. It's why the
Jets are able to get Dalvin Cook. Hey we had
the eight million dollars. We can either use it or
not for a one year deal or did his deal
(33:55):
of course, right, But they have What I'm saying is
teams have the money. Now, you're not gonna go out
and get somebody be crazy free agent wise. You have
the money, you're either gonna use it or you're not.
So you're gonna see something that's gonna say, Okay, what
do we have left? Well, we got eight million dollars left?
All right, why don't we give him an extra two
million for this year? Give him six million, and then
why don't we do twelve million for next year and
(34:16):
we guarantee eight of it or something like that. There's
gonna be some kind of addition to Taylor where he's
gonna say yes, I'll go. So now he's getting a
little bit more money this year, and he's getting a
lot of it guaranteed next year, because wouldn't you say yes?
You say, wait a minute, I can get six million
guaranteed this year and another eight miss sect at least
fourteen million guaranteed between now and a year from now. Okay,
(34:37):
I'll accept that trade because he's not getting from Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Well, we know you can always do some fuzzy math,
right and move moneys around, just like the Jets had
with Aaron Rodgers to open up to event, because they
may need to still make another move here, right, Jason
Peters is sniffing around, saying, oh yeah, I'd show up
if they called me.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Everybody wants to be a jet man. Everybody wants to
be a jet It's glorious.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Glorious check and then the potential to win. But the
other thing I would have done if I was the
Colts in all of this, would have just been all right,
we're not guaranteeing you anymore this year, but you want
to do the Austin Eckler deal, Let's have at it.
Here's another two to three million dollars you can earn
by dominating and and go from there. Instead, everybody gets
(35:19):
mad all the he said, he said behind the scenes,
and then Ursa grabbed the microphone like he was front
and center at Madison Square Garden and said, all right,
here's one from our new album beat It.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Look, and you're gonna have to because you're also not
gonna trade for him and give up a first round
pick or the equivalent unless you have him for more
than justice. Sure, So that's that's gonna have. Somebody for
the next two years is gonna be very happy with
Jonathan Taylor and the coach.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
And you were saying, gambler, what.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Do we do now? We just give the ball to
Anthony Richardson and hope he's good. That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
He's gonna run a lot exit.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
How about a yeah, hey, all the Jonathan Taylor plays.
Give him to Anthony, let him run him exit out
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!