The Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to huge news in Major League Baseball, as the Angels raise the white flag and put all the guys they traded for onto waivers. Jason admits that he was wrong about Jonathan Taylor, as he forgot to consider how bad Jim Irsay is at his job. The guys react to the biggest moves of cut down day in the NFL, including the Patriots releasing every quarterback not named Mac Jones. Plus, MLB Network Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the guys to explains the actions of the Angels.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Greetings and welcome inside The Jason Smith Show with my
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(00:54):
and U and in the National Football League with all
the big moves today as everybody he is getting cut
down to fifty three and you thought, okay, we're going
to start the show and talk about some of the
cuts and what's going on in Jonathan Taylor, and then
the Angels say, no, no, hold my beer, we want
to show you the most impossibly dramatic and most embarrassing

(01:15):
trade deadline move ever by what they did today. So
you know, hey, baseball still wants the headlines. Mike Harmon
and the Angels are more than happy to give it
to us.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Little chaos, a little technology and stuff. I had an
entire monologue that I scripted in two minutes as we
tried to connect your machine of I hate to say
I told you so, but we'll just save that for
a little bit Later on in the program. We'll talk
about some of the tomfoolery and stupidity in Chicago, but certainly, yeah,

(01:46):
cutdown day across the NFL, the waiver wire will be
replete with names you've heard before. A lot of trade
examinations were out there, and speculation and a whole lot
of nothing. So it's it's all good. And now we
have the Angels who continue to have the given my

(02:07):
White Sox the run for their money. As to how
do we show we really don't know anything except how
to make money.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I will tell you this because we're gonna give you
this Angel story right now. If there is if you
have any question, now, if show hey otani A should
leave or b will be leave. That is now completely answered.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
So you're saying they're now one and the same they were.
Were they divergent before?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
There is no way, O tanis I would I would
never stay after what the Angels did today. I mean this,
this just passes understanding. It was a day ago we
were talking about how hey, you know what, even though
it wasn't the the most you know, the most crazy
trade involving a star, the Ahmed Rasario Noah Cinderguard trade
with the Dodgers and Guardians was just off one of
the most worst trades in recent memory because the Guardians

(02:55):
wave Cindergard like a month after getting him, and well,
though they're probably not gonna hold on to Rosario after
the season, they had a lot of uh, a lot
of options. I get that, but you gotta get a
guy that you know is gonna be part of your future.
At some point said you waive the guy. Less than
a month later, No, no, no, enter the Angels who
did something today that just I look at it and

(03:17):
I go, how is this a major league organization?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
It was a month.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Ago, just a month ago, when the Angel decided we're
gonna go for it this season and not trade sho
heo Tani. You want to blame somebody, Blame the Yankees.
The Angels won those three games against the Yankees right
before the deadline, and they thought, hey, we just beat
the Yankees. The Yankees are good. Yeah, we're gonna stay.
Turns out none of those things I just said was true.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Well, so I mean you, you could also blame me.
I mean, nassion clearly listened to the age and spirit
of wisdom that I am here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
So clearly the Angels decide it made that decision, We're
going to go for it. And what do they do.
Their big trade was they trade two of the top
three minor leaguers in their organization to obtain Lucas Giolito
at Rinaldo Lopez. Right, you got a pretty good reliever
and a pretty good starting pitcher.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
They are showing we are gonna go for it here.
So they trade the number two and number three prospects
in their system, which why you can go back to
my tweet I said at the time, I said, hey,
I love the guts by the Angels. They're saying we're
going for it, But yeah, did you really have to
give up your second and third best prospect to get
Lucas Giolito and Renald you really had to do that.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
But no, their second and third best prospect may not
really be saying much. Now, that's what's got to be
towards the top of the heat. No matter that may
be no, no, you, there's a lot of ways we
can do metrics across all sorts of mediums as just
something that is the best, you know, the worst. It
could be the worst movie in the world if nothing
else gets released, it wins because it's a new release.

(04:47):
In terms of box office champions, I mean going it
could get really dangerous for its Look.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Look, the number one movie at the theaters could be
Top Gun Maverick, or the number one movie could be
Meg two. There's a difference in being number one.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, Meek, thirty years after t release, you got Jurassic Park,
and that's beaten out stuff that just got released. I'd
rather go see that. I trust him.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Eh, So this is the trade they made, all right? Well,
you know, like I said, I don't think you had
to give up two and three. But that's why it
makes me such a great general manager, because I wouldn't
have done that. The Angels then go on to free fall.
They've won seven games and they're clearly out of it
and it didn't work out. What do the Angels do today?
They put nearly a quarter of their roster on waivers,

(05:32):
including dominic Leone, Outfield's Hunter renfro On Randall, Great Chuck
and Lucas Gildo and Ronaldo Lopez, the two guys they
traded for a month ago that they traded their number
two at number three prospects away to get. They put
these guys on waivers. Now if anybody wants to select

(05:54):
these players, they take their salary for the rest of
the year. The Angel savings in this, because now it's
about saving money. The Angel savings in this could be
about seven million dollars over the course of the final
month of the season. So all these players get claimed,
they'll save seven million dollars in salary. It's not that, hey,
they went for it. They have overpriced veterans. You traded

(06:16):
two of the top three prospects in your organization to
get two guys and it didn't work out for you, okay,
and now you're okay letting them go Now if no
one claims them, they stay on the roster. But the
fact they put them out there saying we're okay. If
someone claims the two of you and letting you go, sure,
this is this is just this is gross mismanagement on
so many levels. I mean, look, I understand a lot

(06:39):
of things teams do. Hey, money is a fact to
hear mine. This is seven million dollars at the most.
You're gonna make seven million dollars. That's it. That's all right.
If I see this, if I'm Otani, if I'm Mike Trout,
why the hell would I want to stay there? Why
the hell would I want to.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Stay it years on a contract? Yeah, terribly bad.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I'm gonna give money, terribly take take money back, Free
me from this contract so I could go someplace else.
There's no way. If I'm Otani, I look at this
and I come back and I go. So two guys
that could have been part of our future. Maybe part
of the future, I don't know, but who knows. But
you gave you gave up two really good potential pieces
to get to rent two guys for a month that

(07:21):
now you're okay letting go. In what world is that
good business? I mean, that's bad business everywhere. And I
thought the Mets renting Verlander for sixty million dollars for
four months was bad. This is Hey, we're not gonna
just give you money. This is about This is about assets.
We're gonna make sure that we are okay getting rid
of And maybe these guys turn out to be good,
maybe they don't, but it doesn't matter. One of them

(07:41):
is really tear it up since they got him. The
catcher they got is tearing up in Double A. He's
in like three fifty with like seven home runs since
they got him. But this, this doesn't make any sense.
And if I'm looking for where do I want to
spend my baseball future, It's not gonna be with the Angels.
If I'm Otani, I look and I go, do they
really know how to build a winning team? They don't.
They won the World Series in two thousand and two,

(08:02):
right they won it was It was a great series
they built. They had their very deep lineup, and they
had a lot of guys can hit. Their lineup was relentless.
They hit one through nine. And they've tried to build
a winning team ever since. And I don't even know
that they have a clue how to do it. Hey,
we decided the last minute we're gonna go for it. Oh,
but now we're not gonna go for it. Oh okay,
so what are we gonna do? Well, we traded guys away. Yeah,
probably shouldn't have done that. Wait a minute, wait, these

(08:23):
are professional baseball people. This this is a team that
that is a member of Major League Baseball. And to
make that call, there's no reason why you hear there
are shockwaves throughout baseball at this. Yeah, not because of
the other players they put on on waivers, but just
the fact that you gave up a lot to get them.
And it's not like they're sunk costs. You can't say, well,
sunk costs, they're tearing. These are still guys. You gave

(08:44):
a month and you're not winning now, and you want
to save seven million dollars if you are a team
and you need and you need safe, seven million dollars,
Like I get that, that's a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
But for a baseball.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Owner, seven million dollars already, Marino, Yeah, isn't that much money.
If you're worried about seven million dollars in a month,
you should not be owning a baseball team. You should
sell it somewhere to somebody that's got the deep pockets
that's able to go forward and say, hey, we went
for it. I'm gonna eat seven million dollars. I'm gonna
eat seven million dollars. We traded for these guys. Okay,
we went for it. There's nothing on any level with

(09:15):
the Angels that makes sense this. If I'm Otani, this
is the final mail that says, well, I was looking.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
For something to give me a direction. I am gone.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I am going up to five to LA, I'm going
further up to San Francisco. Maybe I'm going to Seattle.
Maybe I'm going to the Mets. Maybe maybe I'm going
someplace else. Maybe I'll go to the Mets. Maybe I
can go far. Maybe I'll go to the Mets. Maybe
I'll go here. Maybe there's so many other places now
that he would go instead of the Angels.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
And I don't I don't understand, Berschinger. Your job tonight
as executive producer is to make sure you slap him
up side the head so that skip of the record
thing gets fixed when the word Mets keeps getting uttered
in stories like this. But I know you and I
I've talked you some about sunk costs and all of
these fun things. This is still where we're at right

(10:00):
those prospects aren't walking back through that door. You can't
take back the I can't even use the words I'd
like to use on air for what Giolito has been
since he arrived and the quality or lack thereof of
his starts, as well as the performance of all these

(10:20):
other players. It's trash. So at some point you look
around and go, why are we bothering? Let's go look
in our minor league system. Yes, the rosters will go
up what two spots at the end of the week,
all of that stuff, but give some young guys an opportunity.
Yeah they're not that second and third prospects as of
a month ago, but you know what they might be.

(10:41):
Now see what I did there. But you had the
opportunity here to just say, look, this suck. This was terrible.
And if you're looking for the whatever, the final straw,
the the thing that really should have made Otani mat No,
it's Manassian standing up and down going. We told him
to the MRI. We told him, and he said, no,

(11:04):
don't blame us. Stop writing all of these articles telling
us how terrible we are at our jobs and picketting
us outside the stadium. It's talking about how we ruin
this unicorn, that we took down the last unicorn, and
they play the song from the old movie out there. No,
that's where Manassian went wrong. He didn't need to say

(11:26):
any of that. But he responded to everybody and all
the bullies on social media, all the folks on MLB
network that went through. We talked about it on air,
going all right, I'd like to know what the timeline was.
But you're not accusing folks, right, because the team could
want to do it, the player might not want to
do it. Somewhere in between is the lies versus reality.

(11:52):
But he responded, as so many do when they get
picked on a little bit in social media land. That's
exactly what happened here. It's like, no, no, no, no, it
was all him. It was all him and his agent.
They didn't want to know. They said, I'm fine and
we don't want to lose him. We're already probably going
to So what do you do. You don't make him

(12:12):
get the MRI, you don't make him do the extra scans,
and you allow him to come back and pitch on
his own terms, and then what happens Boom there goes
the arm.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I I don't envy anyone the last few days of
what's going on with the end. I say a few
days going back to the deadline where everything looked great,
and then the minute they decided we're holding on to
our guys, everything fell Apart from making the trades that
didn't work out to Otani's arm and not having the

(12:45):
relationship with Otani's people that's needed to make the right
baseball decisions. Hey, if he's not feeling hey, this is
where we need. But it's clear that Otani's people had
one thought and they kind of informed the Angels about
what they want to do. And that's difficult thing. It's
a difficult thing. It's not all on the age a superstars.
You've been with this team now for a while. You
have to think, all right, they have our best interest

(13:07):
at heart, they know what's going on, and we need
to trust them a little bit.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Now, see why they didn't trust them?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Why are we trusting a team where the GM just
made it, made a foolish move like this. Nothing has
gone right. This has been the last month for the
Angels has just been gut punch after Haymaker after Steel
told boots kicked to the groin like the Iron chic.
This is how bad of a month has been. And
I don't envy anybody on a on a team that

(13:35):
because this is just shows you that how a team
can just spiral into oblivion so fast. The Angel a
month ago, at this time, the Angels went from hey,
they finally figured it out. Otani is staying, he's gonna
be excited, inepenant race. The Angels have made the right moves,
they sent the right message. Look how good things are,
and in a month they look like the worst franchise

(13:57):
in baseball. That's how fast you can descend into disarray.
And this is the cherry on top of it, you know,
for the for your Tani. I could sit back and say, well,
look it's it's unfortunate. It's really it's really bad. You know,
there's fault to be blame. But now you throw this
on top of it's, what the hell are we really doing?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
No, I'm okay with it. The Manassian comments, you know,
just making sure he could cast some blame back to
Otani and his people. That's the bad move. Everything else
in terms of baseball transactional stuff, well, you're not winning
these guys are terrible. You're about.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
So you're okay with with with letting go to guys
that you gave up your two of your top three prospects.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Are you keeping them for another month after this? Hell no?
But after this season you were telling him to beat
it anyway. All you're doing is fixing the twitch. And
why the hell did you give up two of your
top three projects? They sucked.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
You didn't have to, but you did it.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
You can't change that.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
None of this happened. What was great a month of this? No, no, no,
you can't.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
You can't judge those transactions a month ago by what
happened today. You could judge it by the sixth you know,
starts that Giolito had where he couldn't get me out
and I got a bumped shoulder, I can't swing a
damn bat. So that's it.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
So these guys are after a month, yea, after a month.
All these guys you gave a month. That's that's all
you need is a month, that's all you need. No, hey,
let's let these guys for a lifetime and a month.
That's it. Just have a month, that's it. A month
is all you get. That's all you get to prove
that's it just a month? You got what another three
or four starts? You got you gotta get another month.
You gotta think that Giolito, who is a guy who's

(15:35):
war outside of the twenty twenty season four and a half,
three and a half and half.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Done, he's pretty at the end year, he had a
bad hated him, he had a bad month. He's had
a Okay, I understand the trade didn't work out, but wow,
to go to that just to save seven seven million
dollars when you were supposed to add a guy who's
you know, maybe a middle of the rotation starter and
a reliever who's going to be a dependable guy after
a month, it's not working.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
We gotta save seven million? Dot really, we gotta save
seven million.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Dollars?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well is he is? He not gonna make payroll at
the end of the month. Like that's not more like
the angel's not gonna get paid.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
No, he would have lost that seven million dollars if
he'd gotten rid of Otani because he would have had
to refund all the Japanese advertisers because he wasn't there anymore.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
It in Hey, you're gonna buy my bobbleheads too. When
I trade you Otani, this is like, oh yeah, and
I want you to stock my soda machine for three years.
I mean that I'm sick of my guy. He's paying
for soda. Where's that dollar? Where's that dollar that I'm
buying for soda on the field. It's kind of hard
to see right now. No, so they would have had
to do that. I agree with you, that's what they
would have had to do.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
But they were done with it. So they said, all right,
we'll fix the glitch now. I mean, Giolino's contract's done
at the end of the year. And you might have
seen in the six whatever it was six starts the
month that he's been around the team. This is not
a guy you were gonna go pay top dollar for
in the open market. So let's just be done with
it now.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Everything was bad. The trade was bad. What they gave
up was bad. The result was bad. They made a
bad trade even worse ultimately. But to say, what I'm
saying though, is the trade wasn't bad in the moment.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
It was aggressive, it was okay, but these aren't two guys.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
You need to give up your second and third best
prospects for you did the two guys. You give up guys? Hey,
what well, let's go a couple of guys.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think the White Sox. H No, for the White Sox.
This is great. I mean felt the statue for that
move compared to everything else done.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
You're gonna hang up bat. It's the first guaranteed field
rate banner. You're gonna hang is Hey, and at end
of July made that trade for these two guys.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
It's the same ballpark they won the World Series.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Come on, you'll hang that for Yeah, but it changed
names though I wasn't guaranteed right name all the time. No,
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Sooner or later they'll be in Nashville and I'll be
sitting there with a giant cowboy hat.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I'm sorry. It's crypto dot Com guaranteed raid field hear
you twitter? Aw about a Fresco or exit? How about
a Fresca? Mike get swollen dome. I am so gone.
If I'm Otani, it's not even God. I'm just taking.
I'm selling all my stuff now, Hey, buy my stuff
on EBA. I'm gonna make a lot of money here
over the course the next couple months. Buy all my
all my Angels gear I'm selling.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
So why do you think he got Mike Trout to
Mike Trout got him to sign all those cards. He
bought a bunch of those tops now World Baseball Classic
cards of the two of them, and he had him
sign a bunch of them like I'm the only guy
that has them, and once he gets traded, there'll be
no more because I won't sign any.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
But aren't you here for twelve years? Yeah? But here's
the thing. I know this franchise sign now I may
not see you that many more times at the EDD
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, we'll have more on this story. And hey, if
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off the hook.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
No one cares about Sindergarden Bar. Now, now this trade took.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Play well I mean, I like this his tweet before
he deleted it. Yeah, yeah, it was stinks anyway, basically.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have you have to. Yeah, well,
let me just make sure I delete. I don't know
if I want to keep that up. But coming up next,
it is a big day in the NFL. We saw
Rosses cut to fifty three and Jonathan Taylor was not
traded coming home. Just one of the rarest things in
all of the world. You're gonna hear me say I

(19:36):
was wrong, But why I was wrong? Now that you
gotta hear as well. That's next right here, we break
down all the big moves we saw today and more.
This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
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Speaker 1 (19:57):
Well, now you're gonna hear one of the rarest things.
It's it's like seeing a unicorn, or like a raccoon
in your backyard in the middle of the day. You
know something crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I was wrong, And not only that I was wrong
on something I doubled and tripled down on.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
I was wrong. Now the big thing is gonna be
that I was right or that you were wrong.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
No, it hurts me, you know, it hurts me that
I what I didn't take into account and it's my fault,
like it's my it's my own stupid fault because there's
something I needed to take an account for that I
didn't and that and and and that's all on me. No,
I mean, look at look, you know you were right
about Hey, Jonathan Taylor does not get traded. That I
told you last week. He's getting traded. It's happening by

(20:42):
the end of the week. Doubled down on Wednesday. It's
gonna happen by the end of the day, Friday, gonna
happen by tomorrow. After Anthony Richardson shows that he's okay
enough to be the starter after being named the starter
a little too early. Hey, it's going to happen. He
wants to be rid of Jonathan Taylor. Today came. Today
was the deadline. Rosser's got to be at fifty three.
They got to make a decision if they're gonna keep

(21:03):
him on the physically unable to perform list or if
they're going to trade him. This is the big day
and what happened. The Colts did not trade Jonathan Taylor
after not finding what they felt.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Was a fair value offer for Taylor.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
So he's going to begin the season on the pupp list,
which means he's ineligible to play in the first four
games of the season. It still remains that he could
be dealt before the deadline and the end of October.
But I gotta say, because I thought, I thought it
was gonna happen. Everything was there, We said what we wanted, right,
We said what we wanted, We got phone calls, we

(21:38):
talked to teams, Jonathan Taylor's people talk to teams. They
had everything they need out there, and it still didn't happen.
And I thought it was gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I was wrong. You were right. I was wrong. Well,
in the end, as much as you and many others
were not fans of anything, Jim r. Say has had
to say, you underestimated his power when it came to
this transaction.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's exactly what I did. I underestimated his ability to
screw it up, and that he's a complete and total wildcard.
And I did not take that wild card ness into
account when I went breaking it down. I should and
I should. There were signs to look. We had Jason
locking For on the show last week, who calls him
a honkey talk man. All he's I'm the honkey talk man.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
I'm cool, I'm cocky, I'm bad, shake, rattle and roll.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Look, and I blew past it. No, he wants to
be rid of it. He's emotional. It's going to happen.
I had sound logic, I had sound reasoning. Everything I did,
it was lit. There were there were no holes in
anything I said, except for underestimated that. I underestimated Jim
Orsay's ability to screw things up and be a complete
and total wildcard. And that's on me. That's my fault.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah. My big thing with Ersa was Okay, maybe we
allow you to go seek a trade, but I reserved
the right unless it really just goes to everything. I
want to tell everybody to beat him. Right, Ballard was
only getting an authorization if a team met that quote
unquote first round thing. I never thought the equivalent of

(23:14):
a first round pick. Right, Let's go to the chart
and whatever was ever going to happen with Jim Mersay,
And you know, to push back on the narrative that's
gone on these last couple of weeks of well, why
would you want a first round tag when you don't
value him that way? It's like, that's not true. It's
categorically not true. You value him, but you value him

(23:35):
to pay to play at the four million dollars you're
scheduled to pay pay him this year doesn't mean that
in the future you might not be amenable do a
franchise tag or whatever else. But coming off a big injury,
you're not exactly working from a place of great leverage. No,
And that's where Jim irsay was, No, it's just.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's a bad optic to say, oh, to look like
we don't really value this guy, but now we're not.
We're not gonna We're not gonna trade him away. You know.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
That's the thing though.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
It's a bad optic more than it is all this is. No, No,
it's just it's just a bad Certain things are bad optics.
And when you get into it, you realize the business
and the decision and the thought process of it, you understand.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
But the optics is, boy, that's a really bad No.
I get it. I just kept seeing all these thought
He's like, well, why would you be holding out for
this draft pick when you clearly don't value him. It's like,
that's not true. Just because he didn't go on to
a microphone with a guy playing a little violin behind
him saying baby come back. What doesn't mean they didn't
value him.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Don't baby come back.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
I don't think there's a violine. I'm just making it
my own. Baby, you're coming in. Yeah, there's no violin
and no, no, no, but I'm changing the song like
I'm making it my own, right. I don't have to
play it as it was originally recorded.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Devil went down to Georgia, that's the violin.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Well, I mean, Jim Mersey is probably more likely, even
though he's got a huge rock and roll collection that's
on tour and everything that you can see all his
pianos and he's got out and red piano from his
Vegas residency from years ago, and so many guitars or whatever.
That's all fine, good, but that, yeah, I mean, let's
let's go with that. So I got a guy doing
his best Charlie Daniels while you know I'm telling you

(25:13):
how much I need you. That's not what he did,
and that's fine. Not everybody's got the same bedside manner
and feels like they need to just bow down. It
doesn't mean he doesn't value you, just his bedside manner
might need some work in terms of how we let
you know that. But here we are, dude, do do

(25:35):
do do? Do? Do do do? I need a stand
up bass guy if we're gonna do this too, right.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
I'm trying to give you the musical accompaniment for it.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, we really loved Jonathan. It was really going to
take something to really knock us off our feet. Uh,
you know we needed a first round pick. I mean
he's a first round running game. Because this is where
Jim Urse can get in front of a microphone and
really reverse a lot of the negativity of his last statements,
Like I told you, well, here's you. He's a guy
we value and this is what we needed. And you

(26:05):
didn't come strong enough to the whole.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Here but here, and this gets into the real interesting
part for me, the sticky wicket of those story good use.
He said this is what we want. We want the
first round pick or the equivalent of a first round pick. Yeah, reportedly,
team well no, we said that publicly. That's why it
was report. We want a first round pick. Or we
want the equivalent of a first round pick that that
was out there. Teams knew what they wanted. Teams knew

(26:30):
what they wanted. Is everybody calling in gonna completely low ball? No,
they want Jonathan Taylor. They don't want to not get him.
They want to get Jonathan Taylor. So they're gonna come
in with what day, what's the best offer for us?
What's the best offer we can afford? What's the equivalent
of a first round pick. Maybe it is a first
round pick for us because we're gonna finish up. Maybe
it's a second round pick and a fourth round pick,

(26:51):
or a second and a third, or a second and
a fourth that can turn into a third depending on
what Jonathan Taylor does. There's all of these things. So
do you really think everybody called an everybody low balled? See,
because what I'm waiting for is Tomorrow's story to say source,
we offered first rounder for Taylor. You know, mystery team
are the White Sox. Mystery team offered first rounder for Taylor.

(27:11):
Mystery team offered two seconds for Taylor and it and
it got denied. That's the That's the next part because
because if that was the case, we're gonna find that out,
and that's what I'm really interested to find out that
that did he really go and bargain on good faith
because if they didn't get if other teams put in
good offers, that'll get out there because that that because
teams know we're the ones that people seem that they're

(27:33):
pissed off at. Right, Teams like the Dolphins or the
pant whoever else was in on the on on on
it for colts in in the league. They all know that.
So now they think, oh, I'm not gonna deal with
any of these teams. They're gonna CALLI lowball me for
my player. So they're gonna say, I don't want this
to get out. I'd like, let's just take Miami for example. Right,
Let's say Miami made an offer, and now they're the
ones that are gonna be looked at as the team

(27:54):
that wouldn't pony up. Oh you low balled for Jonathan Taylor.
Come on, So if that, if that happens, wait wait
wait wait, wait, we're gonna wind up looking bad. You're
gonna see Miami and just using them as an example,
you're gonna see that story leak. Hey, Team X, whether
they're identified or they're the mystery team, or hey, my
sources told me one team offered this, which was a

(28:15):
good offer, which is what was in the ballpark and
close to or exactly what they wanted, and the Colts
never pulled the trigger on the deal with us. So
don't make nope, make me look bad because you just
completely mismanage this like the Angels and and didn't do it.
That's what I'm waiting to see because if that that
that that other shoe will drop sometime tomorrow Thursday, Friday

(28:36):
as we get away from this.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Okay, two things here. Here's a quote from ERSA related
to Taylor specifically. We love Jonathan, we need Jonathan. Our
hope is Jonathan has an outstanding year and we have
a good year as a team, and then we get
his next contract done. That's the hope. We think the
world of him is a person as a player, it's
just timing. When your time timing comes to get paid,
then you get paid. All Right. The other part I

(28:59):
could write, sources tell me that right now. It doesn't
make it. So have we not had that problem? And
sports media sources we told it. I'm not saying a
darn schefter is gonna have this on Twitter. I'm saying
that you know, Schefter or Glazer or somebody or an
insider where the team is gonna say, hey, I have

(29:21):
it here that a team made this offer. Two teams
made very similar offers that were close to what really
close to what the Colts want, and he decided he
said no because again he has this Why again, This
is why I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Because I mismanaged Jim Ersay's ability to screw things up.
I really that's my fault because we want to trade him. Okay,
here's offers.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I don't want to trade him. He's the fantasy owner
that you go when you're looking to make a trade.
You look at the team, you look at the guy
and go, yeah, I can't even look at the players
on his rosters. He's just gonna be ridiculous. And I'm
we're never gonna make a trade. I'm gonna offer him
this guy. He's gonna want a different guy and he's
got someone added. Then I'm gonna say, you want I
want this that you say I want these two guys
at it, and it's never gonna get anywhere. I'm just
never gonna call him. I'm not I can't do it.

(30:05):
That's who Jim Irsay is in Layman's terms and people
you and I deal with all the time. He's that guy.
You don't even call him for a trade because you
know he's never gonna be able to agree to it.
It's never gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Well, that's the other angle on the whole Angels thing.
When we next revisit that, uh, that thing between luxury
taxes and that fantasy owner dumping players that could be
play off viable for somebody else. That's a whole other
thing to get into. But yeah, I mean, like ersay,
I told you, man, don't underestimate it.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Dude, you are correct.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I was wrong.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Man, I'm telling you, I admit it.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
His abillity to screw things up is legendary really, but
at this point he's not screwed anything up. Who knows,
he might suddenly announce, you know what, we signed him
to a long term deal.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Oh yeah, sure, we're giving him twenty five million dollars
a year, four years, billion guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
But legitimately he may just come back and say, all right,
we're gonna give you the two years franchise tags going over,
let's go to.

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the insanity coming up in a few minutes, with the
Angels waving a slew of players today, including two that
they just traded their two best prospects away for a
month ago. Yeah, Joey, o'tana, you really want to stay,
don't you? But today was cut down day in the NFL,
and everybody was on social media all day wondering who's
gonna see. Everybody had their favorites, right, You get your

(33:01):
favorite player on your team, the guy you like in
camp that hopefully gets to stay, and you're hoping, you're
hoping not to see his name on the waiver wire,
and you do what you think, Oh my god, you
traded away a guy who caught fifteen balls for three
hundred yards and four touchdowns. And oh and then like
nobody picks them up, and you go, oh, maybe maybe
he wasn't really that good overall. But everybody went to

(33:21):
the computer all day today going we're fresh, We're fresh,
we're fresh. Let me see who's there, let me see
who's coming, let me see who's going. And you know,
by and large, this is a day that didn't have
a lot of surprises, But it didn't mean it didn't
have a lot of craziness and a lot of fun
and intrigue as well.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Well that's just it, right, You gotta have some twists
and turns along the way, some surprises and some other
uh man, look it's it's Bill Belichick wins the day again,
right when it comes down to how can I really
confuse people and make you wonder if I know what
I'm doing? Mmm? Right, And let's go what it is
his cornerback room? Yeah, if you're gonna put up a

(33:59):
metal stand end of things that hit the wire today
that made you go, hey, what am I reading that? Right?
Because you thought you might have been getting a darn
shefter as you went through the process. But yeah, I
mean it's always a miserable day, and I know a
lot more people are chiming in on that the last
year or two right of how difficult this is you

(34:19):
talk about. You know, maybe you're a long standing member
of a community, your kids are in school and just
went back to school or are getting ready to and
then suddenly, hey, you're on the outs and you've got
to go find another gig. And then you may be exhale,
and then twenty four hours from now, oh we claim
this guy, you're gone, so you know, and now you're

(34:39):
out there thinking you just got saved. You're on this
roster and you're gonna move forward. The fluidity over the
next seventy two ninety six hours is maddening for sure,
And I think in a lot of NFL cities, I mean,
you're about as calm as anybody can be right there.
There wasn't a lot of chaos going on with the Jets.
I mean, no good Davis retire the other day. I

(35:03):
mean he saw the numbers game and obviously something if
you're gonna make that announcement, you've been thinking about it
for a while. But I mean there's the one roster
that really there was nothing that could potentially surprise you.
You're feeling pretty good top to bottom, now the kicker.
You have no idea what's happening?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Sure, sure, sure, uh but no but look, but you
know we'll kick it off there with with New England
in that they have one quarterback right now, they have
one quarterback. It's mac Jones. They released Bailey Zappy end
Malik Cunningham, right the darling of the preseason. Everybody like Cunningham.
We saw Zappy in very limited action last year, took
the job away from mac Jones for a little while,

(35:43):
and in and of itself, it was Zappi hour. It
was that. Yeah, And that's what I'm gonna be upset
about now that if he doesn't wind up in the
league anymore. Boy that the Berman lines, I can't say no,
no more shiny Zappy people in New England.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
You think he's done. I don't think so. There's no
chance in.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Hell Zappy birthday. You then if you think someone's gonna
sign him, I mean, if he doesn't, we don't we
lose that, right, we lose that.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
We'd be terrible.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Now here's this is that? This is you?

Speaker 3 (36:08):
You?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
You brought it up in that we've talked about Belichick
coaching for his New England life this year.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
If they don't win, he's gone.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
And Bob Kraft is impatient and he has not quite
run the team into the ground. But there are no
weapons on this team. There's nobody you're afraid of. Look,
rmondre Stevenson is a really good running back. He's a
volume guy, and he's probably I'll tell you this, I
think he's probably the number one running back in fantasy
this year because he's gonna catch seven or eight passes
a game. But overall, is he's someone that boy, hey,

(36:38):
we gotta go, we gotta stop Fromandre Stevenson. No, they
don't have anybody that's dangerous.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
And we'll have a bunch of twos and threes running
around your receiving corps. There's just a new set of
twos and threes running around your receiving Cord Belichick.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Has tried to do this now for a while, to
try to win with nobody. Whether it's him trying to
prove I don't need Tom Brady to win, obviously hasn't
worked right, And it's really difficult watching this team play now.
Is this a move that Bill Belichick If he did
it eight years ago, people would say, what the hell
you doing? This guy? You're finding your way out of town. No,

(37:11):
it would be Belichick knows what he's doing. He's got Brady,
he's just got to find the right backup, and this
is a good move. And look, he still may bring
Bailey Zappy back or cutting him back. And look there's
teams playing numbers games right now saying, hey, we're gonna
cut you. Don't go anywhere. We're gonna bring you back,
but we gotta do something with a couple of players
we don't want to lose. So just be just be cool,
like the Jets cut Thomas Morris said today, and he

(37:31):
put out a message saying everybody'd be cool. He said, relax,
everything's gonna be fine. The Jets obviously wanted to keep
an extra player and they're gonna cut him and then
re sign him. You can do that.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Does that mean he's gonna be a Jet when he
says r e l at.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Relax, they're bringing me back and cutting Aaron Rodgers. So
so yeah, there are things that could happen. They could
bring bad. But just the fact that he cuts the
quarterbacks and only has one when you don't know what's
gonna happen, You don't know if someone's gonna want to
claim Bailey's appy. You have no idea. I have no
idea where someone's going to claim Elie cunning In. But
if he does that, when he's at the top of
his powers, nobody says anything, Well, look, he knows what

(38:07):
he's doing. He'll bring in the right guy. But now
it's oh Man Belichick. All he's doing is giving his opposition,
and his opposition being Bob Kraft and Patriots fans and
everybody else, he's giving them more ammunition to say he
really doesn't know what he's doing and it's time to
move on. Because teams just don't do this. You don't
just cut two guys ten days before the regular season.

(38:29):
What if something happens to mac Jones, what is something?
What if something happens in week one and suddenly, hey,
we're putting a backup out there that's had all of
three days with the playbook and doesn't even know what
he's doing, and you're losing for two three weeks because
you don't know what's gonna happen. If you're gonna get
to keep Zappy, if you're gonna get to keep that,
some team might say, hey, no, we love Bailey ZAPPI.
We love what he did against those first two drives
against the Bears last year. It was fantastic in that

(38:51):
game for that two drives. So just the fact that
he did this, it all he's doing is giving more
ammunition to the other side of He's gonna be gone
after this year. He's absolutely gonna be gone and nothing
is different. This is a complete Bill Belichick style move.
But we talked about optics a few minutes ago. The
optic right now is boy his last few years since

(39:12):
they got rid of Tom Brady, since they pushed Tom
Brady out, they have not looked like they know what
they're doing at all. And Belichick's gonna be the guy
to take the blame because Craft is really impatient. And
if it doesn't happen this year, it doesn't turn this year,
watch what happens at the end, Belichick either walks away,
it's a joint statement something and this move is just
another example in that long list of nails that are

(39:33):
gonna be driven into Belichick's coffin as far as it
comes being the coach of the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, I mean, I look at it, you know, and
we'll grab the other team from across the other coast,
right up the line here from us in Los Angeles.
And when you look at the forty nine ers, if
these other moves work and you're winning, and you're consistently
getting to title games or to the super Bowl, then
you know, people look away, right, They've forty nine ers

(39:57):
have missed down a lot of first round picks, just
the Trey Lance thing where it went wrong, but they've
hit in so many of it. By the way, everybody
annoying brock Purty like he's some kind of superhuman after
seven games, What the hell are we doing here? You know,
and out of the other side of their mouth talking
about you know, how much chaos there is because you've

(40:18):
got inexperienced quarterbacks. I'm missing something in the logic there.
But to put the two together, it's like you can
get away with it. And certainly number twelve fixed a
lot of ills. Right, there's a lot of calm, and
you might have a little bit of unrest, but he
gets rid of the ball fast. So if you've got
a problem on your offensive line, picks it up. If
you've got a running back that's not quite as efficient

(40:40):
as he needs to be, you could pick it up.
Guys like Gronkowski were able to pick up and outperform
perhaps expectation, because remember that he guy wasn't supposed to play.
His back was supposed to be a problem. Instead, he's
one of the greatest of all time. So you hit
a few times and it alleviates all of those And
now you're looking at a team where the division's now

(41:00):
caught you. Right again, we can bring in another thing
we've talked about a lot when you talk about the
women's national team for soccer. Now it's not all about
everybody catching up to you. Part of it is about
your talent taking a dip and your evaluation process not
being as efficient as it once was. One thing they
could never do right in New England was the wide

(41:21):
receiver position, and every year now it's shuffle up and deal.
Do I like Juju Smith Schuster? Sure? Do I like
Kendrick Bourne. I don't know was he getting traded or
was he not DeVante Parker. He'd looked really good in
a couple of games against the Patriots. That's what Bill
Belichick's remembering here, right, And Mike Gisiki staying in division. Well,

(41:41):
I'm gonna week in Miami by bringing, well, these are
guys that are good, not great, and do you have
the quarterback? And how much is real versus imagined in
terms of Belichick and Bill O'Brien versus Mac Jones. Right,
Alabama Mack as he's calling himself, which kind of dig
because if it blows up, then we mock it. Otherwise

(42:03):
we celebrate the hell out of it that he called
his shot. And now he's a hero. Mac that's in
his path.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
He hasn't been.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
He hasn't been Alabama Mack in three years. But that's me.
But if suddenly he goes back to the guy that
had some swagger and played loose and whatever, all of
a sudden, hey, it's a different world. But you look
at that that division.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Who's laying down in that division?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Nobody you want to talk about a cannibalizing effect and trying,
what are you going? Three and three? If you're lucky? Right,
I mean he used to be all right, we're four
and two, five and one. Maybe you ran the table
a couple of those years, and now you're you're set
up for great success and home field advantage that's all gone.

(42:48):
So the margin for error is nowhere near what it
once was. And my kids are back in school. You
could tell I'm helping with math now.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
So there you go. So there's your first big move
today that we saw the other The other thing we had.
One of the other things we had was we were
littered with kicker trades. Oh yeah, Okay, Sean Payton in
his effort to try to bring as many people from
the Saints to the Broncos as he can, and maybe
he trades for Will Lutts. The Denver Saints trade for
Will Lutts and Nick Folk is dealt to Tennessee, away

(43:20):
from New England. And so you're now having kickers get traded.
And this is what gives me a big thing, Mike,
think about this. Forget about Netflix quarterback Peyton Manning should
do Netflix kicker. Wow, just think about that.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Just say anybody really watching? I mean, what are the
numbers on quarterback? By the way, is it another example
of us just the the incestuous, we love ourselves nature
of the sports media? No, no, no, people don't really
tune in.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
No.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
I think Quarterback had a pretty good number of views,
and and and and and I think Quarterback did pretty
well because remember it's not a it's a show that
just keeps going. So I mean they put it out
and if you know, okay, we had four million views
in the first month. Okay, we're hoping now when word
of mouth comes out and people, now you're up at
twelve million, sixteen million, and they could sit back and say,
we had thirty five million views. Okay, so that's thirty

(44:13):
five million people watching Quarterback, you know, or going through it.
So no, I Quarterback did pretty well. But now you
have Kicker. Just think about kid now would it be
too boring?

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Though?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Like I'm just picturing, you know, the lives of Kickers
and and like I'm picturing them like we'd start the
episode they're driving home in a nice car to a
nice house where their wife is there and there's a
couple of young kids. It's a really nice house that
you did you would see people that athletes own, like
in Arizona, because like they all live there, like in Arizona.

(44:41):
And then what do you do? Well, now I'm home
being with the kids today, What else you do? I'm
gonna go to Target? What else you got? Well, maybe
they go to dinner later on tonight, and what else?
I'm gonna help my daughter with my homework? And what else. No,
we're gonna probably watch a movie and go to bed. Okay,
then then we go to practice. All what do you
do well? Then we're gonna kick, and what do you
do well? I can't kick too much because you know
I can't. Then then I'm done. Huh okay, all right,

(45:03):
maybe not kicker then. But I'm just thinking with all
the thing, you know, all the all the trades going on,
maybe you could have there's something with kicker. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
No, I get it. You're you're trying to be creative.
You've got a lot of space, You've got a lot
of opportunity and networks and streaming services to fill. Man,
you don't need huge numbers. I mean, the production costs
isn't going to be that much. I mean, the kickers
can't demand that much. The best kicker in the game
is sitting on the sidelines. Oh yeah, all you have

(45:30):
to worry about being a distraction. Well, I missed that
field goal because I was, you know, I was thinking
too much about kicker. You know, I don't know. I mean,
let's go, let's go follow the life of Robbie Gold.
Why do you not have a job? Nobody wants to
pay me. I'm automatic, But somehow I'm still sitting around, uh,
going to Chicago sporting events and hanging out. But no,

(45:53):
it's I like the cut of your jib. I mean,
you look, it's kind of taking a different slant. I mean,
are we gonna add another episode for Kirk Cousins when
he decided he was going to do that cool facial
hair thing. Oh that decision process to go down with
that look because you know they're about to give us
a Jason Kelcey thing. Yeah, do I need that? Do

(46:13):
I need more of the Kelsey's Yeah, I don't need
a former friend of the show. And guess Travis Kelcey
back in the day when we interviewed him, it was
it was a hoot up at the super Bowl. But
you know, Overexposed commercialized handle me with cares. I think
where we're at in that process.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Oh, very nice traveling Willbury's everybody there.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, No, look, I'm not a I'm.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Always looking for the next big thing. I think we
spend so much time talking about kickers, and you know,
I think maybe getting to the drama and if they're
making a kick to win a game, and how do
they celebrate, like do we have any kickers that are
gonna go you know, I don't know, like, do we
have kickers that are gonna just curse like Mahomes or
show us they're they're they're kind of weird and awkward,
like like like cousins, or that they really shouldn't be

(47:00):
in the league like Mariota. I mean, I don't know.
I don't know if we have that there, But.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
I think we can find those guys.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I guarantee you those guys would say yes. More every
kicker would say yes, I can get quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Maybe you get kicker, yeah, netflicker, and I have no
doubt there's a couple of those guys.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
If you really dig down deep, they're freaks. Netflix kicker,
there you go. But here's the thing. You gotta be
really freaky. Well I'm not really freaky, but can you
do it for TV? Yeah? Sure, no problem that whatever.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
But we're gonna need you to sell pretty hard here.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
We need you to get some tattoos. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, no,
you gotta get some tattoos. They gotta last at least
for the season, right, because I think they do that
all right, there's tattoos that last for like a couple
of years and they go away. Now that's pretty cool.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Sure, yeah, I'm actually thinking about getting one of those
for my birthday.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Now are you what are you gonna get?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
I don't know. It's up for debate.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
An You're gonna get Cnerco and it's gonna be making
in the metallica font It's gonna look like Actually, that
would be pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I don't think that was gonna be on the short
short list. But no, I gotta dig that.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I can get out it is. It's there.

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the day involving what happened in Major League Baseball is
suddenly maybe Showyotani saying I Am done with the Angels.
That's next right here, Jason and Mike from the Tyrock
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Speaker 1 (48:51):
Well, today we had, let's just say, one of the
most bizarre circumstances in baseball in quite some time. It
was a month ago. The Angels decided, we're gonna go
for it. We're not gonna trade show hey Otani. They
trade two of their top three prospects in exchange for
two players from the White Sox, Lucas Giolito and relieve

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Ronaldo Lopez. Okay, hasn't worked out. They've won seven games
since then. They're falling out. So now they're moving on
to next year. What do they do today? They put
a quarter of their roster on waivers, including Giolito and Lopez.
Also Yeah Cree, Chuck Harner, Renfro, Matt Moore, Dominic Leon
all on waivers, hoping to save around seven million dollars

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if they get claimed for the month of September. So
to recap the Angels trade two of their top three
prospects away for a month of two guys. They decided
it's not working and we are moving on.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Well, circumventing the salary cap. Let's go and.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
You wonder why everybody in Major League Baseball go, Hey,
Otani's coming up.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
There's no way resign.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Joining us now on the hotline, nobody better to break
it all down MLB Network insider and a man who
will be coaching the first half of Game two for
the University of Michigan Wolverines.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
It is John Paulmerrosi JP. What's happening, Buddy.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Good evening, my friends. Yes, that quarter of Game two
will be the best quarter of Michigan plays all year.
I can agree that. Wow, But we have gotten the
guys all organized. We're gonna run a four to four
stack with a with a deep thirds plan, just like
a very standard high school football plan. I think we're

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gonna go wing ta. You don't want to give anything away,
we don't. We don't want Ohio State to be able
to scout that quarter too much. And know, get that
glimpse of what's gonna happen there in the final Saturday
of November, so we got to keep it simple. They're
in the second quarter of game two.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Now, now, don't you give me any any you know,
any secrets.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
But I know your offensive coordinator Ken Rosenthal actually is
doing has a couple of big surprises planned. Can you
give us anything about that?

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Yeah? I think that so offensive cordator Rosenthal. I think
Kenny would would certainly favor some very good smash mouth
football between the tackles. We may even go full house
at different times, but when we're feeling very bold, then
you go to the single wing because no one even
knows the ball to be snapped. And they always say

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when you run the single wing, the best athlete is
the center.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Sure, that's really well, don JP. I like the fact
that you I would like to see the wall of
your office right now with all of the plays drawn up.
I think it's something.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
That it's ben days of getting things figured out. By
the way, I understand that my alma mater, Essex Villa
Garboro High School has won our first game of the season,
which is exactly one more game than we won during
my entire senior year. What I think I think you

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know this er to nine, my senior year, but we
are now want to know there in the great city
of Essel, Michigan.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Well, you've almost caught the Lions for victory since two thousand.
You're getting there, You're getting close. You close?

Speaker 3 (52:17):
I thought he was good.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Oh, I know. This is all I'm going to say.
Is this all I'm going to say is this. I
was at school drop off today. There was a fellow
parent who was wearing a Lion's hat. And when I'm
at school drop off, no one knows the care is
what I do for a living. And to be honest
with you, everybody there knows more about the NFL than
I do. And so I say, hey, what'll we got?

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What have we got an alliance? How sure should I be?
And the response back was this is the best team
we have had in my lifetime. Okay, and my new
friend is in his mid forties, So best team we've
had in our lifetime for the Detroit Lions. According to
the guy that I was with that drop off today,

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I'm doing good. Patrick Mahomes my friend. He's part of
the baseball family too, obviously. But the Chiefs might be
looking at a week one defeat there on Thursday night
against the Lions.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Now that's a source.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Guy I was with in the drop off school today.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Okay, we'll drop off today where in a lion's at
tells me the best team we have ever had in
his lifetime. I'm feeling good. I'm going with that.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
All right.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Well, look, let's get to the Angels today, JP, because
it makes my head hurt to think that they give
up two of their top three prospects for Gilito and
Lopez and a month goes by and they put him
on waivers only to save up to seven million dollars. Now,
I understand that trades don't work out, certain things don't
work out, but nothing makes sense here. The prospects they

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gave up don't make sense. The fact that after a
month we're just moving on from them when I guess, yeah,
Gielito's kind of a walk away guy, but you didn't
need to give up those prospects that I don't know, jpedon.
None of this makes sense, and I just keep thinking
about Owtani going, why would I resign here? Why would
I resign here? We're gonna give up two of our
best three guys for two players who get a month

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and then that's it. Now we're looking to save seven
you really need to save seven million dollars as an owner,
seven million dollars is doing it. You should sell the team.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
If that's the.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Case, well, you ask a lot of great questions, and
I think that to put a very fine point on it,
it's a bad look. It's a bad look, and to
your point, it's not so much that the trades themselves
were a bad look. I want to make sure I
differentiate this because a month ago, when the Angels were

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in it, I said, you know what, arty moreno ownership
front office. They are doing what their fans want to see.
Their fans want to see show a playing meaningful games
in September. They want to see Trout and Otani on
a playoff team for the first time together. This is

(55:06):
what the fans want. And I'm a believer that this
is show business and you should give the fans what
they want. I think that at this point in time,
I would say every owner is up to their own
prerogative to run their business as they see fit. But
exactly what you're saying, you might save some money now
if other teams claim your players and take their salary,

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you may you may save money. But in the long run,
if people in the industry look at your organization and say,
why are they doing this? Can we believe it when
they say we're going for it, etc. I would tend
to think that that over the long term is going
to be worth much more than seven million dollars. And

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I would also say this, it would be a little
bit different if this were the old rules by which
you could actually get some value back, potentially a prospect
someone you could get back if you lost a Gilito
or a ran out a Lopez, because there was still
the ability to make a trade. Now this would just

(56:13):
be a waiver claim and a cash transaction. And to
your point, it just it really ends the year in
a tough way. We've obviously already seen Otani not able
to pitch. I get that it's a frustrating time, but
this has turned what I think was a very noble

(56:33):
decision a month ago into a punchline and it was
just not necessary.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
JP when we look at it and we start applying
it to the luxury tax, and that's where this kind
of gets complicated. Right compensation show Aotani if he leaves right,
is that part of the thing, in terms of what
could be lost well based on all of this prospect
because I mean, that's where they're at. They rescumated what
five to six million into luxury tax territory before these moods, right, And.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
That's a very fair point that potentially the Angels are
looking at it and saying, Okay, if we're not going
to win this year, and clearly they're not, the next
best way to do it is to is to try
to find a way to get under the luxury tax.
But by putting the players on waivers, you're not necessarily
going to gain unless someone decides that they're comfortable accepting

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these players at their full contractual value. So there would
be certainly some benefits to going under the luxury tax
if you can do it with respect to free agent compensation,
draft etc. I get that, I really do, and that
probably is the one credible way to argue this through
and to consider why they're doing it from a baseball perspective,

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it just doesn't really ring true to the way things
looked a month ago. And I think that's where the
paying customers in the stands probably have a couple of
questions as to where the organization is going, and it
just it makes for a a rather tidy and unflattering
narrative that this is how the regular season is, is

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trending toward ending for the Los Angeles Angels JP.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
By the time we find out tomorrow, we're going to
see you know, Josh Donaldson out there as well. He
gets let go by the Yankees today and just an
absolute mess of a season for them to continues to
get worse and worse. Do you see any big do
you see these Do you see these players getting picked
up by big teams? You think it could be a
quiet day when when when they all clear way reserve
it's all said and done.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Yeah, no, it's a fair question. I think we can
certainly see a couple of players, as we've all often
seen over the course of time, adding a reliever is
always something that you're comfortable doing, So maybe that is
a Leon. Maybe is one possibility Lopez as well. I
do think given the general shortage of starting pitching, someone
will probably claim Gelie. But in terms of big time impact,

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we're not going to see like the Justin of Verlander
deal from six years ago, where that was an August
thirty first deal. The rules of the game are just
simply different. But I think there is, you know, And
I reported today on Carlos Carrasco being on these same
outright waivers. Harrison Vader, according to to Eric Boland, he
is on outright waivers as well. So there are some

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players that are potentially a value in moving that could
help on the end of your roster. But I would
also say this, we're now getting to the spot where
you've got roster expansion and the end of the minor
league season, and so if you've got guys internally who
you like, who are prospects, this is now the time

(59:46):
that you would typically consider calling them up. And I
think we're seeing a lot of different clubs. The Giants
are one example, and honestly the Angels for a lot
of this season with the way they promoted their prospects,
A lot of teams now just like their internal guys
and are reluctant to spend the extra millions that involve
adding players in the outside because they're quite comfortable with

(01:00:08):
the options that they've got internally.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
See they can now promote their number two and three
prospects of Anaheim and feel all good about it. Oh no,
I did.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
The guys are used to be two and three they're
not there anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Well, someone else rises up to that status really quick, JP,
do you want to start taking a victory lap like
Smith about the greatness of the Mariners and the Trident.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
I tell you what, the Mariners and the tried ents.
So the celebration is on point. They're now potentially on
pace to win their first division titles since two thousand
and one. They were, of course losing earlier today, which
I thought was against the rules. I thought the Mariners
only ever won and that was the way that the
rules are written right now, But the fun team, and

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I'll tell you what a dangerous team in the postseason
because of the caliber of their starting pitching Kirby and
Gilbert and Castillo, Hancock has emerged as well dangerous team
to face what I think is a pretty wide open
American League. And when we speak next, I think that
to me is the key question al wide open NL.

(01:01:15):
It seems like Dodgers Braves are the two heavy favorites.
But in the American League side, the Mariners I believes
have as good of a chance as anyone else to
reach the World Series.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
All right, JP, parting here and let you call your
shot right now. With two outs in the eighth inning.
Alex Cobb has a no hitter for the Giants. Five nothing.
He's thrown one hundred and ten pitches. Does he get it?
Yes or no?

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Absolutely, Alex Cobb will get there, just like Matt Cain
did all those years ago, just like Tim Linsingham did
on multiple occasions for the San Francisco Giants.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
All right, there it is. He has called his shot.
He's gonna let us know about this, but won't tell
us what plays coming up from Michigan first half, Week
two of the college football season. JP, Thanks so much,
as always, buddy, we'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Enjoy wing right twenty three. Drive.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
You're just you're just reading what you see driving driving down?
Oh no, oh, I think you Wait a minute, did
he get it? Did he get it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Did he get it up? Just like that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Hang on, I think a sinking fly ball to center
field to end the age.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
You got it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
It's got It's gotta be an error, right, it's gotta
be an error error.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
No, I know, I think he got it. I think
he got it. Hang on there showing the replay right now.
I think he got it. Did he get there?

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
It looks like he got it. JP, You just quit and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Squeaked bye by the skin of your teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Good all right, jpdy wow, you got it. Thanks so Roscoe.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Trade the boys. I tell you it ain't gotta come
in all.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Austin Slater makes a diving grab in center field to
end the eighth inning.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Alex Cobb, you know he's feeling it. He's clapping coming
off the field.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
It looks like he will go to the ninth inning
with a no hitter intact at one hundred and thirteen pitches. Whoo.