August 30, 2023 • 37 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to huge news in Major League Baseball, as the Angels raise the white flag and put all the guys they traded for onto waivers. Jason admits that he was wrong about Jonathan Taylor, as he forgot to consider how bad Jim Irsay is at his job. Plus, one bar is looking to cash in on their hatred of Aaron Rodgers!
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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show and uh and in the National Football League with
all the big moves today as everybody is getting cut
down to fifty three and you thought, okay, we're gonna
start the show and talk about some of the cuts
and what's going on in Jonathan Taylor, and then the
Angels say, no, no, hold my beer. We want to
show you the most impossibly dramatic and most embarrassing trade
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deadline move, ever by what they did today, So you know, hey,
baseball still wants the headlines. Mike Harmon and the Angels
are more than happy to give it to us.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Little chaos, a little technology and stuff. I had an
entire monologue that I scripted in two minutes as we
tried to connect your machine of I hate to say
I told you so, but we'll just save that for
a little bit later on in the program. We'll talk
about some of the tomfoolery and stupidity in Chicago, but certainly, yeah,
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cutdown day across the NFL, the waiver wire will be
replete with names you've heard before. A lot of trade
examinations were out there, and speculation and a whole lot
of nuts. So it's it's all good. And now we
have the Angels who continue to have the given my
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White Sox the run for their money. As to how
do we show we really don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Anything except how to make money, I will tell you
this because we're gonna give you this Angel story right now.
If there is if you have any question, now if
show hey Otani A should leave or B will be leave,
that is now completely answered.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So you're you're saying they're now one and the same
they were were they divergent before?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
There is no way, o Tanis, I would I would
never stay after what the Angels did today. I mean this,
this just passes understanding. It was a day ago we
were talking about how hey, you know what, even though
it wasn't the the most you know, the most crazy
trade involving a star, the Ahmed Rasario Noah Cinderguard trade
with the Dodgers and Guardians was just off one of
the most worst trades in recent memory, because the Guardians
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wave Cindergard like a month after getting him, and well,
though they're probably not gonna hold on to uh Rizzari
after the season, they had a lot of uh, a
lot of options. I get that, but you got to
get a guy that you know is gonna be part
of your future at some point said you waive the
guy less than a month later, No, no, no, enter
the Angels who did something today that just I look
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at it and I go, how is this a major
league organization? It was a month ago, just a month ago,
when the Angels decided we're gonna go for it this
season and not trade sho Heo Tani, you want to
blame somebody, Blame the Yankees. The Angels won those three
games against the Yankees right before the deadline, and they thought, hey,
we just beat the Yankees. The Yankees are good. Yeah,
we're gonna stay. Turns out none of those things I
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just said was true.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, so I mean you can you can also blame me,
I mean nassy and clearly listened to the age and
spirit of wisdom that I am here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So clearly the Angels decide it, made that decision, We're
going to go for it. And what do they do.
Their big trade was they trade two of the top
three minor leaguers in their organization to obtain Lucas Giolito
at Rinaldo Lopez. Right, you got a pretty good reliever
and a pretty good starting pitcher. Right, They are showing
we are gonna go for it here. So they trade
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the number two and number three prospects in their system,
which why you can go back to my tweet I
said at the time, I said, hey, I love the
guts by the Angels. They're saying we're going for it,
But yeah, did you really have to give up your
second and third best prospect to get Lucas Giolito and
Renald You really had to do that.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But no, their second and third best prospect may not
really be saying much now that what's got to be
towards the.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Top of the heat. No matter that they may be.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No, no, you, there's a lot of ways we can
do metrics across all sorts of mediums as just something
that is the best, you know, the worst. It could
be the worst movie in the world if nothing else
gets released, it wins because it's a new release in
terms of box office champions, I mean going it could
get really dangerous for its Look.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Look, the number one movie at the theaters could be
Top Gun Maverick, or the number one movie could be
Meg two. There's a difference in being number one. I
got them meet third thirty years after its release.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You got Jurassic Park, and that's beaten out stuff that
just got released.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'd rather go see that. I trust him. Eh, So
this is the trade they made, all right? Well, you know,
like I said, I don't think you had to give
up two and three. But that's why it makes me
such a great general manager, because I wouldn't have done that.
The Angels then go on a free fall, They've won
seven games and they're clearly out of it and it
didn't work out. What do the Angels do today? They
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put nearly a quarter of their roster on waivers, including
dominic leone outfielder's Hunter, renfro On Randall, Great Chuck and
Lucas Gildo and Ronaldo Lopez, the two guys they traded
for a month ago that they traded their number two
at number three prospects away to get. They put these
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guys on waivers. Now, if anybody wants to select these players,
they take their salary for the rest of the year.
The Angel savings in this, because now it's about saving money.
Savings in this could be about seven million dollars over
the course of the final month of the season. So
all these players get claimed, they'll save seven million dollars
in salary. It's not that, hey, they went for it.
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They have overpriced veterans. You traded two of the top
three prospects in your organization to get two guys and
it didn't work out for you, okay, and now you're
okay letting them go. Now if no one claims them,
they stay on the roster. But the fact they put
them out there saying we're okay. If someone claims the
two of you and letting you go, sure, this is
this is just this is gross mismanagement on so many levels.
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I mean, look, I understand a lot of things teams do. Hey,
money is a fact to hear many This is seven
million dollars at the most. You're gonna make seven million dollars.
That's it, that's all right. If I see this, If
I'm Otani, if I'm Mike Trout, why the hell would
I want to stay there? Why the hell would I
want to.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Stay it.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
On a contract?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, d take take money back, free me from this
contract so I could go someplace else. There's no way.
If I'm Otani, I look at this and I come
back and I go. So two guys that could have
been part of our future. Maybe part of the future,
I don't know, but who knows. But you gave You
gave up two really good potential pieces to get to
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rent two guys for a month that now you're okay
letting go. In what world is that good business? I mean,
that's bad business everywhere. And I thought the Mets renting
Verlander for sixty million dollars for four months was bad.
This is Hey, we're not gonna just give you money.
This is about this is about assets. We're gonna make
sure that we are okay getting rid of And maybe
these guys turn out to be good, maybe they don't,
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but it doesn't matter. One of them is really tear
it up since they got him. The catcher they got
is tearing it up in double A. He's in like
three fifty with like seven home runs since they got him.
But this, this doesn't make any sense. And if I'm
looking for where do I want to spend my baseball future,
It's not gonna be with the Angels. If I'm Otani,
I look and I go do they really know how
to build a winning team? They don't. They won the
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World Series in two thousand and two, right they won
It was It was a great series they built. They
had their very deep lineup, and they had a lot
of guys can hit. Their lineup was relentless. They hit
one through nine. And they've tried to build a winning
team ever since. And I don't even know that they
have a clue how to do it. Hey, we decided
the last minute we're gonna go for it. Oh, but
now we're not gonna go for it. Oh okay, so
what are we gonna do. Well, we traded guys away. Yeah,
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probably shouldn't have done that. Wait a minute, way, these
are professional baseball people. This this is a team that
that is a member of Major League Baseball. And to
make that call, there's no reason why you hear there
are shockwaves throughout baseball at this. Yeah, not because of
the other players they put on on waivers, but just
the fact that you gave up a lot to get them.
And it's not like they're sunk costs. You can't say, well,
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sunk costs, they're tearing. These are still guys. You gave
them a month and you're not winning now. And you
want to save seven million dollars if you are a
team and you need and you need safe seven million dollars,
Like I get that, that's a lot of money. But
for a baseball owner, seven million dollars already, Marino, Yeah,
isn't that much money. If you're worried about seven million
dollars in a month, that you should not be on
a baseball team. You should sell it somewhere to somebody
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that's got the deep pockets that's able to go forward
and say, hey, we went for it. I'm gonna eat
seven million dollars. I'm gonna eat seven million dollars. We
traded for these guys. Okay, we went for it. There's
nothing on any level with the Angels that make sense this.
If I'm Otani, this is the final mail that says, well,
I was looking for something to give me a direction.
I am gone. I am going up to five to LA,
I'm going further up to San Francisco. Maybe I'm going
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to Seattle. Maybe I'm going to the Mets. Maybe maybe
I'm going someplace else. Maybe I'll go to the Mets.
Maybe I can go far. Maybe I'll go to the Mets.
Maybe I'll go here. Maybe there's so many other places
now that he would go instead of the Angels. And
I don't I don't understand, Berschinger.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Your job tonight as executive producer is to make sure
you slap him up side the head so that skip
of the record thing gets fixed when the word Mets
keeps getting uttered.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
In stories like this.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But I know you and I I've talked you some
about sunk costs and all of these fun things. This
is still where we're at right Those prospects aren't walking
back through that door. You can't take back the I
can't even use the words I'd like to use on
air for what Giolito has been since he arrived and
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the quality or lack thereof of his starts, as well
as the performance of all these other players. It's trash.
So at some point you look around and go, why
are we bothering? Let's go look at our minor league system. Yes,
the rosters will go up, what two spots at the
end of the week, all of that stuff, but give
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some young guys an opportunity. Yeah, they're not that second
and third prospects as of a month ago, but you
know what they might be.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Now see what I did there.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
But you had the opportunity here to just say, look,
this suck.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
This was terrible.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And if you're looking for the whatever, the final straw,
the thing that really should have made Otani matt No,
it's Manassian standing up and down going.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
We told him to take the MRI. Hey, We told him.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And he said, no, don't blame us. Stop writing all
of these articles telling us how terrible we are at
our jobs and picketting us outside the stadium. It's talking
about how we ruin this unicorn that we took down
the last unicorn and they play the song from the
old movie out there. No, that's where Manassian went wrong.
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He didn't need to say any of that, but he
responded to everybody and all the bullies on social media,
all the folks on MLB network that went through. We
talked about it on air, going all right, I'd like
to know what the timeline was. But you're not accusing folks, right,
because the team could want to do it, the player
might not want to do it. Somewhere in between is
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the lies versus reality. But he responded as so many
do when they get picked on a little bit in
social media land, and that's exactly what happened here. It's
like no, no, no, no, it was all him. It was
all him and his agent. They didn't want to know.
They said, I'm fine and we don't want to lose him.
We're already probably going to So what do you do.
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You don't make him get the MRI, you don't make
him do the extra scans, and you allow him to
come back and pitch on his own terms, and then
what happens. Boom, there goes the.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Arm I I don't envy anyone the last few days
of what's going on with the end I say a
few days going back to the deadline where everything looked great,
and then the minute they decided we're holding on to
our guys, everything fell Apart from making the trades that
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didn't work out to Otani's arm and not having the
relationship with Otani's people that's needed to make the right
baseball decisions.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Hey, if he's not feeling hey, this is where we need.
But it's clear that Otani's people had one thought and
they kind of informed the Angels about what they want
to do. And that's difficult thing. It's a difficult thing.
That's that's not all the age a superstar. Absolutely, you've
been with this team now for a while. You have
to think, all right, they have our best interests heart,
they know what's going on, and we need to trust
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them a little bit. Now, see why they didn't trust them?
Why are we trusting a team where the GM just
made it, made a foolish move like this. Nothing has
gone right. This has been the last month for the
Angels has just been gut punch after Haymaker after Steel
told Boots kick to the groin like the Iron chic.
This is how bad of a month has been. And
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I don't envy anybody on a team that because this
is just shows you that how a team can just
spiral into oblivion so fast. The Angel a month ago,
at this time, the Angels went from hey, they finally
figured it out. Otani is staying, he's gonna be excited,
ine penant race. The Angels have made the right moves,
they sent the right message. Look how good things are,
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and in a month they look like the worst franchise
in baseball. That's how fast you can descend into this array.
And this is the cherry on top of it, you know,
for the for your Tani. I could sit back and say, well,
look it's it's unfortunate. It's really it's really bad. You know,
there's fault to be blame. But now you throw this
on top of it's, what the hell are we really doing? No,
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I'm okay with it.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
The Manassian comments, you know, just making sure he could
cast some blame back to Otani and his people.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
That's the bad move.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Everything else in terms of baseball transactional stuff, well, you're
not winning.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
These guys are terrible. You're about So you're okay with
with with letting go to guys that you gave up
your two of your top three prospects. Are you keeping
them for another month after this? Hell? No?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But after this season you were telling him to beat
it anyway. All you're doing is fixing the glitch. And
why the hell would you give up two of your
top three projects?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
They sucked. You didn't have to, but you did it.
You can't change that. None of this happened. What was
great a month of this? No, no, no, you can't.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You can't judge those transactions a month ago by what
happened today. You could judge it by the sixth you know,
starts that Giolito had where he couldn't get me out
and I got a bumped shoulder, I can't swing a
damn bat.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So that's it. So these guys are after a month, yea,
after a month. All these guys you gave a month.
That's that's all you need is a month, that's all
you need. No, hey, let's let these guys for a lifetime,
and man's a month. That's it. Just have a month,
that's it. A month is all you get. That's all
you get to prove that's it. Just a month. You
got another three or four starts? You got you gotta
get another month. You gotta think that Giolito, who is
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a guy who's war outside of the twenty twenty season
four and a half, three and a half and a half,
he's pretty at the end year, he had a bad
hated him. He had a bad month. He's had a Okay,
I understand the trade didn't work out, but wow, to
go to that just to save seven seven million dollars
when you were supposed to add a guy who's, you know,
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maybe a middle of the rotation starter and a reliever
who's going to be a dependable guy after a month.
Oh no, it's not working. We got it. Save seven million.
Not really, we gotta save seven million dollars? Well is
he is? He not gonna make payroll at the end
of the month. Like that's what I'm more like, the
Angel's not gonna get paid.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
No, he would have lost that seven million dollars if
he'd gotten rid of Otani because he would have had
to refund all the Japanese advertisers because he wasn't there anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
We allow it in, Hey, you're gonna buy my bobbleheads too.
When I trade you OTD, this is like, oh yeah,
and I want you to stock my soda machine for
three years. I mean that I'm sick of my guy.
He's paying for soda. Where's that dollar? Where's that dollar
that I'm buying for soda on the field. It's kind
of hard to see right now now, So they would
have had to do that. I agree with you, That's
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what they would have had to do. But they were
done with it. So they said, all right, we'll fix
the glitch now. I mean, Giolino's contract's done at the
end of the year. And you might have seen in
the six whatever it was six starts the month that
he's been around the team. This is not a guy
you were gonna go pay top dollar for in the
open market. So let's just be done with it now.
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Everything was bad. The trade was bad. What they gave
up was bad. The result was bad. They made a
bad trade even worse ultimate. But to say, what I'm
saying though, is the trade wasn't bad in the moment.
It was aggressive, it was okay, but these aren't two guys.
You need to give up your second and third best
prospects for you did the two guys you give up guys? Hey,
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what well, let's go a couple of guys. I think
the White Sox. No, for the White Sox. This is great.
I mean felt the statue for that move compared.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
To everything else they have done.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You're gonna hang up bat. It's the first guaranteed field
rate banner. You're gonna hang is Hey and the end
of July made that trade for these two guys. It's
the same ballpark they won the World Series. Come on,
you'll hang that for Yeah, but it changed names though
I wasn't guaranteed right change his name all the time. No,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Sooner or later they'll be in Nashville and I'll be
sitting there with a giant cowboy hat.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm sorry, it's crypto dot com guaranteed raid field. How
dare you twitter aw about a Fresco or exit? How
about a Fresca? Mike get swollen dome? I am so
gone If I'm Otani, it's not even God. I'm just
taking I'm selling all my stuff now, Hey, buy my
stuff on EBA. I'm gonna make a lot of money
here over the course the next couple months. Buy all
my all my angels gear I'm selling. So why do
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you think you.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Got Mike Trout to Mike Trout got him to sign
all those cards. He bought a bunch of those tops
now World Baseball Classic cards of the two of them,
and he had him sign a bunch of them like
I'm the only guy that has them, and once he
gets traded, there'll be no more because I won't sign any.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But aren't you here for twelve years? Yeah, but here's
the thing. I know this franchise sign now I may
not see you that many more times at the EDD
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
No one cares about Sindergarden Bar. Now, Now, this trade
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a big day in the NFL. We saw Rosses cut
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to fifty three and Jonathan Taylor was not traded coming home.
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Slash match well now you're gonna hear one of the
rarest things. It's like seeing a unicorn or like a
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raccoon in your backyard in the middle of the day.
You know something crazy. I was wrong. I was wrong.
And not only that I was wrong on something I
doubled and tripled down on. I was wrong. Now the
big thing is gonna be more that I was right
or that you were wrong. No, it hurts me, you know,
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it hurts me that I what I didn't take into
account and it's my fault, like it's my it's my
own stupid fault because there's something I needed to take
an account for that I didn't and that and and
and and that's all on me. No, I mean, look
at look, you know you were right about Hey, Jonathan
Taylor does not get traded. And I told you last
week he's getting traded. It's happening by the end of
the week. Doubled down on Wednesday, It's gonna happen by
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the end of the day, Friday, gonna happen by tomorrow.
After Anthony Richardson shows that he's okay enough to be
the starter after being named the starter a little too early. Hey,
it's going to happen. He wants to be rid of
Jonathan Taylor. Today came. Today was the deadline. Hey, Ross's
gotta be at fifty three. They gotta make a decision
if they're gonna keep him on the physically unable to
perform list or if they're going to trade him. This
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is the big day. And what happened. The Colts did
not trade Jonathan Taylor after not finding what they felt
was a fair value offer for Taylor. So he's going
to begin the season on the pup list, which means
he's ineligible to play in the first four games of
the season. It still remains that he could be dealt
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before the deadline in the end of October. But I
gotta say, because I thought I thought it was gonna happen.
Everything was there, We said what we wanted, right, we
said what we wanted, We got we got phone calls,
we talked to teams, Jonathan Taylor's people talk to teams.
They had everything they needed out there, and it still
didn't happen. And I thought it was gonna happen. I
was wrong. You were right. I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Well in the end, as much as you and and
many others, Uh, We're not fans of anything. Jim mer
Say has had to say, you underestimated his power when
it came to this transaction.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
That's exactly what I did. I underestimated his ability to
screw it up and that he's a complete and total
wild card. And I did not take that wild card
ness into account when I went breaking it down. I should,
and I should. There were signs to look. We had
Jason locking For on the show last week, who calls
him the honkey talk man. All he's I'm the honkey
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talk man. I'm cool, I'm cocky, I'm bad, shake rattling
roll uh. Look, and I blew past it. No, he
wants to be rid of it. He's emotional. It's going
to happen. I had sound logic, I had sound reasoning everything.
It was like there were there were no holes in
anything I thought except for underestimated that. I underestimated Jim
Ursay's ability to screw things up and be a complete
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and total wildcard. And that's on me. That's my fault. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
My big thing with Ersay was, Okay, maybe we allow
you to go seek a trade, but I reserve the
right unless it really just goes to everything I want
to tell everybody to beat it right. Ballard was only
getting an authorization if a team met that quote unquote
first round thing. I never thought the equivalent of a
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first round pick, right, Let's go to the chart and
whatever was ever going to happen with Jim irsay, and
you know, to push back on the narrative that's gone
on these last couple of weeks of well, why would
you want a first round tag when you don't value
him that way, It's like, that's not true. It's categorically
not true. You value him, but you value him to
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pay to play at the four million dollars you're scheduled
to pay pay him this year doesn't mean that in
the future you might not be amenable do you a
franchise or whatever else.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But coming off a big.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Injury, you're not exactly working from a place of great leverage.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, And that's where Jim was. No, it's just it's
a bad optic to say, oh, to look like we
don't really value this guy, but now we're not. We're
not gonna we're not gonna trade him away. You know,
that's the thing. It's a bad optic more than it
is all this is no, No, It's just it's just
a bad Certain things are bad optics, And when you
get into it you realize the business and the decision
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and the thought process of it, you understand. But the
optic is, boy, that's a really bad No. I get it.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I just kept seeing all these thought p He's like, well,
why would you be holding out for this draft pick
when you clearly don't value him. It's like, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Just because he didn't go on to a.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Microphone with the guy playing a little violin behind him
saying baby come back, what doesn't mean they didn't value.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Him, baby come back.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I don't think there's a violin. I'm just making it
my own, baby come back, you're coming in. Yeah, there's
no violin and no, no, but I'm changing the song
like I'm making it my own, right, I don't have
to play it as it was originally recorded.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Devil went down to Georgia. That's not the violin.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well, I mean, Jim Mersey is probably more likely, even
though he's got a huge rock and roll collection that's
on tour and everything that you can see all his
pianos and he's got Elton John's red piano from his
Vegas residency from years ago and so many guitars or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That's all finny good, but that, yeah, I mean, let's
let's go with that.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
So I got a guy doing his best Charlie Daniels
while you know I'm telling you how much I need you.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
That's not what he did. And that's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Not everybody's got the same bedside manner and feels like
they need to just bow down. It doesn't mean he
doesn't value you. Just his bedside manner might need some
work in terms of how we let you know that.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
But here we are, dude, d do do do do?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Do?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Do? Do do? I need a stand up bass guy
if we're gonna do this too, right, I'm trying to
give you the musical accompaniment for it.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, we really love John. Then it was really gonna
take something to really knock us off our feet. You know,
we needed a first round pick. I mean, he's a
first round running game. Because this is where Jim Murse
can get in front of a microphone and really reverse
a lot of the negativity of his last statements.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Like I told you, well, here's you.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
He's a guy we value and this is what we needed.
And you didn't come strong enough to the whole here.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But here, and this gets into the real interesting part
for me, the sticky wicket of the ery good use.
He said, this is what we want. We want the
first round pick or the equivalent of a first round pick. Yeah,
reportedly team Well, no, he said that publicly. That's why
it was report we want a first round pick or
we want the equivalent of a first round pick. That
that was out there. Teams knew what they wanted. Teams
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knew what they wanted. Is everybody calling in gonna completely
low ball? No, they want Jonathan Taylor. They don't want
to not get him. They want to get Jonathan Taylor.
So they're gonna come in with what, Hey, what's the
best offer for us, what's the best offer we can afford.
What's the equivalent to a first round pick. Maybe it
is a first round pick for us because we're gonna
finish up. Maybe it's a second round pick and a
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fourth round pick, or a second and a third, or
a second and fourth that can turn into a third
depending on what Jonathan Taylor does. There's all of these things.
So do you really think everybody called and everybody low balled? See?
Because what I'm waiting for is Tomorrow's story to say, source,
we offered first rounder for Taylor. You know, mystery team
are the White Sox. Mystery team offered first rounder for Taylor.
(27:26):
Mystery team offered two seconds for Taylor, and it got denied.
That's the that's the next part because because if that
was the case, we're gonna find that out. And that's
what I'm really interesting to find out that did he
really go and bargain on good faith? Because if they
didn't get if other teams put in good offers, that'll
get out there because that because teams know we're the
ones that people seem that they're pissed off at. Right,
(27:48):
Teams like the Dolphins or the pant whoever else was
in on the on on it for colts in in
the league. They all know that. So now they think, oh,
I'm not gonna deal with any of these teams. They're
just gonna call HI lowball before my player. So they're
gonna say, I don't want this to get out. I'd like,
let's just take Miami for example. Right, Let's say Miami
made an offer and now they're the ones that are
gonna be looked at as the team that wouldn't pony up.
(28:10):
Oh you low balled for Jonathan Taylor. Come on, so
if if that, if that happens, wait wait wait wait, wait,
we're gonna wind up looking bad. You're gonna see Miami
and just using them as an example. You're gonna see
that story leak. Hey team X, whether they're identified or
they're the mystery team or hey, my sources told me
one team offered this, which was a good offer, which
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is what was in the ballpark and and close to
or exactly what they wanted, and the Colts never pulled
the trigger on the deal with us. So don't make no,
make me look bad because you just completely mismanaged this
like the Angels and and didn't do it. That's what
I'm waiting to see. Because if that that that that
other shoe will drop sometime tomorrow Thursday, Friday as we
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get away from this.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Okay, two things here. Here's a quote from ERSA related
to Taylor specifically, we love Jonathan, we need Jonathan. Our
hope is Jonathan has an outstanding year and we have
a good year as a team, and then we get
his next contract done.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's the hope.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
We think the world of him is a person as
a player. It's just timing. When your time timing comes
to get paid, then you get paid.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
All right.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
The other part I could write, sources tell me that
right now. It doesn't make it. So have we not
had that problem his historically and sports media sources, Yeah,
we told him. I'm not saying a darn schefter is
gonna have this on Twitter. I'm saying that you know,
Schefter or Glazer or somebody or an insider where the
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team is going to say, hey, I have it here
that a team made this offer. Two teams made very
similar offers that were close to what really close to
what the Colts.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Want, and he said no because again he has the right.
Why again, this is why I was wrong, because I
mismanaged Jim Ersay's ability to screw things up. I really
that's my fault, because he, oh, we want to trade him, Okay,
here's offers. Now, I don't want to trade him. He's
fantasy owner that you go, when you're looking to make
a trade, you look at the team, you look at
(30:03):
the guy and go, yeah, I can't even look at
the players on his rosters. He's just gonna be ridiculous
and I'm We're never gonna make a trade. I'm gonna
offer him this guy. He's gonna want a different guy
and he's got someone added. Then I'm gonna say you
want I want this guy. Then you say I want
these two guys added, and it's never gonna get anywhere.
I'm just never gonna call him. I'm not I can't
do it. That's who Jim Irsay is in in layman's
terms and people you and I deal with all the time.
(30:25):
He's that guy. You don't even call him for a
trade because you know he's never gonna be able to
agree to it. It's never gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Well, that's the other angle on the whole Angels thing.
When we next revisit that, uh, that thing between luxury
taxes and that fantasy owner dumping players that could be
play onf viable for somebody else. That's a whole other
thing to get into. But yeah, I mean, like ersay,
I told you, man, don't underestimate you.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Dude. You you were correct. I was wrong. I was wrong, man,
I'm telling it. I admit it. His ability to screw
things up legendary.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Now, But that just when he's not screwed anything up.
Who knows, he might suddenly announce, you know what, we
signed him do a long term deal.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, sure, we're giving him twenty five million dollars a year,
four year, two years, billion guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But legitimately he may just come back and say, all right,
we're gonna give you the two years franchise tags going over.
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Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
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where today was cut Down Day in the NFL, and
coming up next, we're going to do a lot of
the Bizarre story because there were some really bizarre stories
today from the NFL, but this story today. There is
a bar in Milwaukee, of course, very close to Green
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Bay and grim Packers used to play a couple of
games in y're in Milwaukee. That is raising the bar
when it comes to whatever duel they think they have
with Aaron Rodgers, former Packers quarterback Jack's American Pub recently
announced they will be offering fans free drinks for every
Aaron Rodgers loss with the Jets this season. The rules
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are pretty simple. You gotta be twenty one years old.
Of course, you start a tab fifteen minutes before the
Jets game, and you gotta watch the entire game there
after the clock runs out. Jets loss means drinks around
the house. So it's kind of like that furniture thing
that you do for Major League Baseball during the World Series. Hey,
I can buy all this furniture, and I and such
a team wins, I get it for free. Yeah, but
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you have to buy it first. If they don't win,
so you gotta go to the bar, and you have
to start a tab before the game starts. You gotta
stay and watch the whole game, and you gotta drink.
And then at the end, if the Jets lose, your
bar tab is free.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Is there a minimum per person at the table? That's
one question?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Like, what's it considerate?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
How much of the drinks jack up beer prices for
that Jets game? Sure, you know you got to cover
yourself a little bit that way too. But I dig this,
I really do. I think this is a brilliant way
to get after it. And let's see in week one,
as we look at it, the Jets are two and
(34:24):
a half point home dogs to the Bills.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
First of all, this bar is gonna do fine because
there's not gonna be that many losses for the Jets.
People think this is just gonna fail so spectacularly, and
it's you took a roster that has everything. You added
Aaron Rodgers, you added Dalvin Cook. I mean, how do you?
I mean, I don't want to say that too big.
(34:48):
I don't want to say they're too big to fail.
But this is a short again, buddy, don't do everywhere.
If listen, if Margot Robbie's in a bathtub explained to
me why the Jets lose, I'll listen to what she
has to say, but.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's not going You didn't hear a word she said.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
What just went right over my staring at.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
The bubbles, And you didn't care about any of what
she was trying to tell you. In terms of how
they were loading up these bond packages. I know you,
I know you and how you work.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I was just waiting to say, I am knough, okay,
I am kindoff here. You're not going to gain a
lot of free drinks. The Jets are loaded, and especially
the beginning of the season. There's no tape on this offense.
There's no tape on Rogers. With what's going on, they're
gonna have a big advantage. I'll tell you this Week one,
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they are going to smash the Buffalo Bills. It's not
just about hey, but the Jets are loaded. They're playing
at home with their new quarterback. The fans are gonna
be insane. The Jets are gonna be insane to prove themselves.
And let's face it, the Bills have had problems this preseason.
They've had a lot of problems. Every month, there's a
story Stefan Diggs wants to be traded. Maybe he doesn't,
(35:59):
maybe he does. There they have not looked good in
preseason games, whether it's the first s ringers the backups.
The Bills have issues and issues already is maybe their
window was closed with the group they have and they
have to restart some things. They have a really good team,
but I'm telling you week one, the Jets are going
to smash them and it's gonna be whoa. The Jets
are announcing themselves week one of the regular season with authority.
(36:23):
They're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Wait wait, wait, wait, you just went you though you
can sneak that past me?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
How dare you?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Dare you try to impugne my authority with what I
do here? Pop cultrawise here on Fox Sports Trade, How
dare you?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
And is sneaking past you? I was hoping you. Yeah,
if you didn't get it, I would be disappointed in you. Okay,
fair enough. They're gonna smash the bills week one. Smash
the bills. You want to do what? Just watch? They're
going to smash them. Just watch. I'm telling you, Jets
two and a half dot point dot yes, take it.
You know what. I'd even take that. You know what,
(36:59):
I don't need the points to one of the few
times I would say I didn't even need the points. Yeah,
but you get him. I don't need him. Somebody at
him for the purpose of the bar bet. I can
tell you that give me some Give him to somebody
else who needs a book. I want I want to
be I want to be a giving kind of guy here.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
That Jack barr ain't gonna be that generous.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Smash them. Coming up next, we get all the crazy
oddities of cutdown Day in the NFL. Keep it here,
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show and uh and in the National Football League with
all the big moves today as everybody is getting cut
down to fifty three and you thought, okay, we're gonna
start the show and talk about some of the cuts
and what's going on in Jonathan Taylor, and then the
Angels say, no, no, hold my beer. We want to
show you the most impossibly dramatic and most embarrassing trade
(01:15):
deadline move, ever by what they did today, So you know, hey,
baseball still wants the headlines. Mike Harmon and the Angels
are more than happy to give it to us.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Little chaos, a little technology and stuff. I had an
entire monologue that I scripted in two minutes as we
tried to connect your machine of I hate to say
I told you so, but we'll just save that for
a little bit later on in the program. We'll talk
about some of the tomfoolery and stupidity in Chicago, but certainly, yeah,
(01:45):
cutdown day across the NFL, the waiver wire will be
replete with names you've heard before. A lot of trade
examinations were out there, and speculation and a whole lot
of nuts. So it's it's all good. And now we
have the Angels who continue to have the given my
(02:06):
White Sox the run for their money. As to how
do we show we really don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Anything except how to make money, I will tell you
this because we're gonna give you this Angel story right now.
If there is if you have any question, now if
show hey Otani A should leave or B will be leave,
that is now completely answered.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So you're you're saying they're now one and the same
they were were they divergent before?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
There is no way, o Tanis, I would I would
never stay after what the Angels did today. I mean this,
this just passes understanding. It was a day ago we
were talking about how hey, you know what, even though
it wasn't the the most you know, the most crazy
trade involving a star, the Ahmed Rasario Noah Cinderguard trade
with the Dodgers and Guardians was just off one of
the most worst trades in recent memory, because the Guardians
(02:53):
wave Cindergard like a month after getting him, and well,
though they're probably not gonna hold on to uh Rizzari
after the season, they had a lot of uh, a
lot of options. I get that, but you got to
get a guy that you know is gonna be part
of your future at some point said you waive the
guy less than a month later, No, no, no, enter
the Angels who did something today that just I look
(03:16):
at it and I go, how is this a major
league organization? It was a month ago, just a month ago,
when the Angels decided we're gonna go for it this
season and not trade sho Heo Tani, you want to
blame somebody, Blame the Yankees. The Angels won those three
games against the Yankees right before the deadline, and they thought, hey,
we just beat the Yankees. The Yankees are good. Yeah,
we're gonna stay. Turns out none of those things I
(03:37):
just said was true.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, so I mean you can you can also blame me,
I mean nassy and clearly listened to the age and
spirit of wisdom that I am here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So clearly the Angels decide it, made that decision, We're
going to go for it. And what do they do.
Their big trade was they trade two of the top
three minor leaguers in their organization to obtain Lucas Giolito
at Rinaldo Lopez. Right, you got a pretty good reliever
and a pretty good starting pitcher. Right, They are showing
we are gonna go for it here. So they trade
(04:09):
the number two and number three prospects in their system,
which why you can go back to my tweet I
said at the time, I said, hey, I love the
guts by the Angels. They're saying we're going for it,
But yeah, did you really have to give up your
second and third best prospect to get Lucas Giolito and
Renald You really had to do that.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But no, their second and third best prospect may not
really be saying much now that what's got to be
towards the.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Top of the heat. No matter that they may be.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No, no, you, there's a lot of ways we can
do metrics across all sorts of mediums as just something
that is the best, you know, the worst. It could
be the worst movie in the world if nothing else
gets released, it wins because it's a new release in
terms of box office champions, I mean going it could
get really dangerous for its Look.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Look, the number one movie at the theaters could be
Top Gun Maverick, or the number one movie could be
Meg two. There's a difference in being number one. I
got them meet third thirty years after its release.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You got Jurassic Park, and that's beaten out stuff that
just got released.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'd rather go see that. I trust him. Eh, So
this is the trade they made, all right? Well, you know,
like I said, I don't think you had to give
up two and three. But that's why it makes me
such a great general manager, because I wouldn't have done that.
The Angels then go on a free fall, They've won
seven games and they're clearly out of it and it
didn't work out. What do the Angels do today? They
(05:27):
put nearly a quarter of their roster on waivers, including
dominic leone outfielder's Hunter, renfro On Randall, Great Chuck and
Lucas Gildo and Ronaldo Lopez, the two guys they traded
for a month ago that they traded their number two
at number three prospects away to get. They put these
(05:49):
guys on waivers. Now, if anybody wants to select these players,
they take their salary for the rest of the year.
The Angel savings in this, because now it's about saving money.
Savings in this could be about seven million dollars over
the course of the final month of the season. So
all these players get claimed, they'll save seven million dollars
in salary. It's not that, hey, they went for it.
(06:12):
They have overpriced veterans. You traded two of the top
three prospects in your organization to get two guys and
it didn't work out for you, okay, and now you're
okay letting them go. Now if no one claims them,
they stay on the roster. But the fact they put
them out there saying we're okay. If someone claims the
two of you and letting you go, sure, this is
this is just this is gross mismanagement on so many levels.
(06:36):
I mean, look, I understand a lot of things teams do. Hey,
money is a fact to hear many This is seven
million dollars at the most. You're gonna make seven million dollars.
That's it, that's all right. If I see this, If
I'm Otani, if I'm Mike Trout, why the hell would
I want to stay there? Why the hell would I
want to.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Stay it.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
On a contract?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, d take take money back, free me from this
contract so I could go someplace else. There's no way.
If I'm Otani, I look at this and I come
back and I go. So two guys that could have
been part of our future. Maybe part of the future,
I don't know, but who knows. But you gave You
gave up two really good potential pieces to get to
(07:17):
rent two guys for a month that now you're okay
letting go. In what world is that good business? I mean,
that's bad business everywhere. And I thought the Mets renting
Verlander for sixty million dollars for four months was bad.
This is Hey, we're not gonna just give you money.
This is about this is about assets. We're gonna make
sure that we are okay getting rid of And maybe
these guys turn out to be good, maybe they don't,
(07:38):
but it doesn't matter. One of them is really tear
it up since they got him. The catcher they got
is tearing it up in double A. He's in like
three fifty with like seven home runs since they got him.
But this, this doesn't make any sense. And if I'm
looking for where do I want to spend my baseball future,
It's not gonna be with the Angels. If I'm Otani,
I look and I go do they really know how
to build a winning team? They don't. They won the
(07:59):
World Series in two thousand and two, right they won
It was It was a great series they built. They
had their very deep lineup, and they had a lot
of guys can hit. Their lineup was relentless. They hit
one through nine. And they've tried to build a winning
team ever since. And I don't even know that they
have a clue how to do it. Hey, we decided
the last minute we're gonna go for it. Oh, but
now we're not gonna go for it. Oh okay, so
what are we gonna do. Well, we traded guys away. Yeah,
(08:20):
probably shouldn't have done that. Wait a minute, way, these
are professional baseball people. This this is a team that
that is a member of Major League Baseball. And to
make that call, there's no reason why you hear there
are shockwaves throughout baseball at this. Yeah, not because of
the other players they put on on waivers, but just
the fact that you gave up a lot to get them.
And it's not like they're sunk costs. You can't say, well,
(08:41):
sunk costs, they're tearing. These are still guys. You gave
them a month and you're not winning now. And you
want to save seven million dollars if you are a
team and you need and you need safe seven million dollars,
Like I get that, that's a lot of money. But
for a baseball owner, seven million dollars already, Marino, Yeah,
isn't that much money. If you're worried about seven million
dollars in a month, that you should not be on
a baseball team. You should sell it somewhere to somebody
(09:02):
that's got the deep pockets that's able to go forward
and say, hey, we went for it. I'm gonna eat
seven million dollars. I'm gonna eat seven million dollars. We
traded for these guys. Okay, we went for it. There's
nothing on any level with the Angels that make sense this.
If I'm Otani, this is the final mail that says, well,
I was looking for something to give me a direction.
I am gone. I am going up to five to LA,
I'm going further up to San Francisco. Maybe I'm going
(09:25):
to Seattle. Maybe I'm going to the Mets. Maybe maybe
I'm going someplace else. Maybe I'll go to the Mets.
Maybe I can go far. Maybe I'll go to the Mets.
Maybe I'll go here. Maybe there's so many other places
now that he would go instead of the Angels. And
I don't I don't understand, Berschinger.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Your job tonight as executive producer is to make sure
you slap him up side the head so that skip
of the record thing gets fixed when the word Mets
keeps getting uttered.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
In stories like this.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But I know you and I I've talked you some
about sunk costs and all of these fun things. This
is still where we're at right Those prospects aren't walking
back through that door. You can't take back the I
can't even use the words I'd like to use on
air for what Giolito has been since he arrived and
(10:12):
the quality or lack thereof of his starts, as well
as the performance of all these other players. It's trash.
So at some point you look around and go, why
are we bothering? Let's go look at our minor league system. Yes,
the rosters will go up, what two spots at the
end of the week, all of that stuff, but give
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some young guys an opportunity. Yeah, they're not that second
and third prospects as of a month ago, but you
know what they might be.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Now see what I did there.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
But you had the opportunity here to just say, look,
this suck.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
This was terrible.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And if you're looking for the whatever, the final straw,
the thing that really should have made Otani matt No,
it's Manassian standing up and down going.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
We told him to take the MRI. Hey, We told him.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And he said, no, don't blame us. Stop writing all
of these articles telling us how terrible we are at
our jobs and picketting us outside the stadium. It's talking
about how we ruin this unicorn that we took down
the last unicorn and they play the song from the
old movie out there. No, that's where Manassian went wrong.
(11:24):
He didn't need to say any of that, but he
responded to everybody and all the bullies on social media,
all the folks on MLB network that went through. We
talked about it on air, going all right, I'd like
to know what the timeline was. But you're not accusing folks, right,
because the team could want to do it, the player
might not want to do it. Somewhere in between is
(11:47):
the lies versus reality. But he responded as so many
do when they get picked on a little bit in
social media land, and that's exactly what happened here. It's
like no, no, no, no, it was all him. It was
all him and his agent. They didn't want to know.
They said, I'm fine and we don't want to lose him.
We're already probably going to So what do you do.
(12:10):
You don't make him get the MRI, you don't make
him do the extra scans, and you allow him to
come back and pitch on his own terms, and then
what happens. Boom, there goes the.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Arm I I don't envy anyone the last few days
of what's going on with the end I say a
few days going back to the deadline where everything looked great,
and then the minute they decided we're holding on to
our guys, everything fell Apart from making the trades that
(12:41):
didn't work out to Otani's arm and not having the
relationship with Otani's people that's needed to make the right
baseball decisions.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Hey, if he's not feeling hey, this is where we need.
But it's clear that Otani's people had one thought and
they kind of informed the Angels about what they want
to do. And that's difficult thing. It's a difficult thing.
That's that's not all the age a superstar. Absolutely, you've
been with this team now for a while. You have
to think, all right, they have our best interests heart,
they know what's going on, and we need to trust
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them a little bit. Now, see why they didn't trust them?
Why are we trusting a team where the GM just
made it, made a foolish move like this. Nothing has
gone right. This has been the last month for the
Angels has just been gut punch after Haymaker after Steel
told Boots kick to the groin like the Iron chic.
This is how bad of a month has been. And
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I don't envy anybody on a team that because this
is just shows you that how a team can just
spiral into oblivion so fast. The Angel a month ago,
at this time, the Angels went from hey, they finally
figured it out. Otani is staying, he's gonna be excited,
ine penant race. The Angels have made the right moves,
they sent the right message. Look how good things are,
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and in a month they look like the worst franchise
in baseball. That's how fast you can descend into this array.
And this is the cherry on top of it, you know,
for the for your Tani. I could sit back and say, well,
look it's it's unfortunate. It's really it's really bad. You know,
there's fault to be blame. But now you throw this
on top of it's, what the hell are we really doing? No,
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I'm okay with it.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
The Manassian comments, you know, just making sure he could
cast some blame back to Otani and his people.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
That's the bad move.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Everything else in terms of baseball transactional stuff, well, you're
not winning.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
These guys are terrible. You're about So you're okay with
with with letting go to guys that you gave up
your two of your top three prospects. Are you keeping
them for another month after this? Hell? No?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But after this season you were telling him to beat
it anyway. All you're doing is fixing the glitch. And
why the hell would you give up two of your
top three projects?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
They sucked. You didn't have to, but you did it.
You can't change that. None of this happened. What was
great a month of this? No, no, no, you can't.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You can't judge those transactions a month ago by what
happened today. You could judge it by the sixth you know,
starts that Giolito had where he couldn't get me out
and I got a bumped shoulder, I can't swing a
damn bat.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So that's it. So these guys are after a month, yea,
after a month. All these guys you gave a month.
That's that's all you need is a month, that's all
you need. No, hey, let's let these guys for a lifetime,
and man's a month. That's it. Just have a month,
that's it. A month is all you get. That's all
you get to prove that's it. Just a month. You
got another three or four starts? You got you gotta
get another month. You gotta think that Giolito, who is
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a guy who's war outside of the twenty twenty season
four and a half, three and a half and a half,
he's pretty at the end year, he had a bad
hated him. He had a bad month. He's had a Okay,
I understand the trade didn't work out, but wow, to
go to that just to save seven seven million dollars
when you were supposed to add a guy who's, you know,
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maybe a middle of the rotation starter and a reliever
who's going to be a dependable guy after a month.
Oh no, it's not working. We got it. Save seven million.
Not really, we gotta save seven million dollars? Well is
he is? He not gonna make payroll at the end
of the month. Like that's what I'm more like, the
Angel's not gonna get paid.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
No, he would have lost that seven million dollars if
he'd gotten rid of Otani because he would have had
to refund all the Japanese advertisers because he wasn't there anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
We allow it in, Hey, you're gonna buy my bobbleheads too.
When I trade you OTD, this is like, oh yeah,
and I want you to stock my soda machine for
three years. I mean that I'm sick of my guy.
He's paying for soda. Where's that dollar? Where's that dollar
that I'm buying for soda on the field. It's kind
of hard to see right now now, So they would
have had to do that. I agree with you, That's
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what they would have had to do. But they were
done with it. So they said, all right, we'll fix
the glitch now. I mean, Giolino's contract's done at the
end of the year. And you might have seen in
the six whatever it was six starts the month that
he's been around the team. This is not a guy
you were gonna go pay top dollar for in the
open market. So let's just be done with it now.
(17:00):
Everything was bad. The trade was bad. What they gave
up was bad. The result was bad. They made a
bad trade even worse ultimate. But to say, what I'm
saying though, is the trade wasn't bad in the moment.
It was aggressive, it was okay, but these aren't two guys.
You need to give up your second and third best
prospects for you did the two guys you give up guys? Hey,
(17:21):
what well, let's go a couple of guys. I think
the White Sox. No, for the White Sox. This is great.
I mean felt the statue for that move compared.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
To everything else they have done.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You're gonna hang up bat. It's the first guaranteed field
rate banner. You're gonna hang is Hey and the end
of July made that trade for these two guys. It's
the same ballpark they won the World Series. Come on,
you'll hang that for Yeah, but it changed names though
I wasn't guaranteed right change his name all the time. No,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Sooner or later they'll be in Nashville and I'll be
sitting there with a giant cowboy hat.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm sorry, it's crypto dot com guaranteed raid field. How
dare you twitter aw about a Fresco or exit? How
about a Fresca? Mike get swollen dome? I am so
gone If I'm Otani, it's not even God. I'm just
taking I'm selling all my stuff now, Hey, buy my
stuff on EBA. I'm gonna make a lot of money
here over the course the next couple months. Buy all
my all my angels gear I'm selling. So why do
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you think you.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Got Mike Trout to Mike Trout got him to sign
all those cards. He bought a bunch of those tops
now World Baseball Classic cards of the two of them,
and he had him sign a bunch of them like
I'm the only guy that has them, and once he
gets traded, there'll be no more because I won't sign any.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But aren't you here for twelve years? Yeah, but here's
the thing. I know this franchise sign now I may
not see you that many more times at the EDD
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Speaker 3 (19:03):
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
No one cares about Sindergarden Bar. Now, Now, this trade
took play well. I mean, I like this his tweet
before he deleted it. Yeah, yeah, it was stinks anyway basically, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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to keep that up. But coming up next, it is
a big day in the NFL. We saw Rosses cut
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to fifty three and Jonathan Taylor was not traded coming home.
Just one of the rarest things in all of the world.
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Slash match well now you're gonna hear one of the
rarest things. It's like seeing a unicorn or like a
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raccoon in your backyard in the middle of the day.
You know something crazy. I was wrong. I was wrong.
And not only that I was wrong on something I
doubled and tripled down on. I was wrong. Now the
big thing is gonna be more that I was right
or that you were wrong. No, it hurts me, you know,
(20:38):
it hurts me that I what I didn't take into
account and it's my fault, like it's my it's my
own stupid fault because there's something I needed to take
an account for that I didn't and that and and
and and that's all on me. No, I mean, look
at look, you know you were right about Hey, Jonathan
Taylor does not get traded. And I told you last
week he's getting traded. It's happening by the end of
the week. Doubled down on Wednesday, It's gonna happen by
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the end of the day, Friday, gonna happen by tomorrow.
After Anthony Richardson shows that he's okay enough to be
the starter after being named the starter a little too early. Hey,
it's going to happen. He wants to be rid of
Jonathan Taylor. Today came. Today was the deadline. Hey, Ross's
gotta be at fifty three. They gotta make a decision
if they're gonna keep him on the physically unable to
perform list or if they're going to trade him. This
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is the big day. And what happened. The Colts did
not trade Jonathan Taylor after not finding what they felt
was a fair value offer for Taylor. So he's going
to begin the season on the pup list, which means
he's ineligible to play in the first four games of
the season. It still remains that he could be dealt
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before the deadline in the end of October. But I
gotta say, because I thought I thought it was gonna happen.
Everything was there, We said what we wanted, right, we
said what we wanted, We got we got phone calls,
we talked to teams, Jonathan Taylor's people talk to teams.
They had everything they needed out there, and it still
didn't happen. And I thought it was gonna happen. I
was wrong. You were right. I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Well in the end, as much as you and and
many others, Uh, We're not fans of anything. Jim mer
Say has had to say, you underestimated his power when
it came to this transaction.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
That's exactly what I did. I underestimated his ability to
screw it up and that he's a complete and total
wild card. And I did not take that wild card
ness into account when I went breaking it down. I should,
and I should. There were signs to look. We had
Jason locking For on the show last week, who calls
him the honkey talk man. All he's I'm the honkey
(22:42):
talk man. I'm cool, I'm cocky, I'm bad, shake rattling
roll uh. Look, and I blew past it. No, he
wants to be rid of it. He's emotional. It's going
to happen. I had sound logic, I had sound reasoning everything.
It was like there were there were no holes in
anything I thought except for underestimated that. I underestimated Jim
Ursay's ability to screw things up and be a complete
(23:03):
and total wildcard. And that's on me. That's my fault. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
My big thing with Ersay was, Okay, maybe we allow
you to go seek a trade, but I reserve the
right unless it really just goes to everything I want
to tell everybody to beat it right. Ballard was only
getting an authorization if a team met that quote unquote
first round thing. I never thought the equivalent of a
(23:29):
first round pick, right, Let's go to the chart and
whatever was ever going to happen with Jim irsay, and
you know, to push back on the narrative that's gone
on these last couple of weeks of well, why would
you want a first round tag when you don't value
him that way, It's like, that's not true. It's categorically
not true. You value him, but you value him to
(23:50):
pay to play at the four million dollars you're scheduled
to pay pay him this year doesn't mean that in
the future you might not be amenable do you a
franchise or whatever else.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But coming off a big.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Injury, you're not exactly working from a place of great leverage.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, And that's where Jim was. No, it's just it's
a bad optic to say, oh, to look like we
don't really value this guy, but now we're not. We're
not gonna we're not gonna trade him away. You know,
that's the thing. It's a bad optic more than it
is all this is no, No, It's just it's just
a bad Certain things are bad optics, And when you
get into it you realize the business and the decision
(24:26):
and the thought process of it, you understand. But the
optic is, boy, that's a really bad No. I get it.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I just kept seeing all these thought p He's like, well,
why would you be holding out for this draft pick
when you clearly don't value him. It's like, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Just because he didn't go on to a.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Microphone with the guy playing a little violin behind him
saying baby come back, what doesn't mean they didn't value.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Him, baby come back.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I don't think there's a violin. I'm just making it
my own, baby come back, you're coming in. Yeah, there's
no violin and no, no, but I'm changing the song
like I'm making it my own, right, I don't have
to play it as it was originally recorded.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Devil went down to Georgia. That's not the violin.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well, I mean, Jim Mersey is probably more likely, even
though he's got a huge rock and roll collection that's
on tour and everything that you can see all his
pianos and he's got Elton John's red piano from his
Vegas residency from years ago and so many guitars or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That's all finny good, but that, yeah, I mean, let's
let's go with that.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
So I got a guy doing his best Charlie Daniels
while you know I'm telling you how much I need you.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
That's not what he did. And that's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Not everybody's got the same bedside manner and feels like
they need to just bow down. It doesn't mean he
doesn't value you. Just his bedside manner might need some
work in terms of how we let you know that.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
But here we are, dude, d do do do do?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Do?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Do? Do do? I need a stand up bass guy
if we're gonna do this too, right, I'm trying to
give you the musical accompaniment for it.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, we really love John. Then it was really gonna
take something to really knock us off our feet. You know,
we needed a first round pick. I mean, he's a
first round running game. Because this is where Jim Murse
can get in front of a microphone and really reverse
a lot of the negativity of his last statements.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Like I told you, well, here's you.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
He's a guy we value and this is what we needed.
And you didn't come strong enough to the whole here.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But here, and this gets into the real interesting part
for me, the sticky wicket of the ery good use.
He said, this is what we want. We want the
first round pick or the equivalent of a first round pick. Yeah,
reportedly team Well, no, he said that publicly. That's why
it was report we want a first round pick or
we want the equivalent of a first round pick. That
that was out there. Teams knew what they wanted. Teams
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knew what they wanted. Is everybody calling in gonna completely
low ball? No, they want Jonathan Taylor. They don't want
to not get him. They want to get Jonathan Taylor.
So they're gonna come in with what, Hey, what's the
best offer for us, what's the best offer we can afford.
What's the equivalent to a first round pick. Maybe it
is a first round pick for us because we're gonna
finish up. Maybe it's a second round pick and a
(27:05):
fourth round pick, or a second and a third, or
a second and fourth that can turn into a third
depending on what Jonathan Taylor does. There's all of these things.
So do you really think everybody called and everybody low balled? See?
Because what I'm waiting for is Tomorrow's story to say, source,
we offered first rounder for Taylor. You know, mystery team
are the White Sox. Mystery team offered first rounder for Taylor.
(27:26):
Mystery team offered two seconds for Taylor, and it got denied.
That's the that's the next part because because if that
was the case, we're gonna find that out. And that's
what I'm really interesting to find out that did he
really go and bargain on good faith? Because if they
didn't get if other teams put in good offers, that'll
get out there because that because teams know we're the
ones that people seem that they're pissed off at. Right,
(27:48):
Teams like the Dolphins or the pant whoever else was
in on the on on it for colts in in
the league. They all know that. So now they think, oh,
I'm not gonna deal with any of these teams. They're
just gonna call HI lowball before my player. So they're
gonna say, I don't want this to get out. I'd like,
let's just take Miami for example. Right, Let's say Miami
made an offer and now they're the ones that are
gonna be looked at as the team that wouldn't pony up.
(28:10):
Oh you low balled for Jonathan Taylor. Come on, so
if if that, if that happens, wait wait wait wait, wait,
we're gonna wind up looking bad. You're gonna see Miami
and just using them as an example. You're gonna see
that story leak. Hey team X, whether they're identified or
they're the mystery team or hey, my sources told me
one team offered this, which was a good offer, which
(28:30):
is what was in the ballpark and and close to
or exactly what they wanted, and the Colts never pulled
the trigger on the deal with us. So don't make no,
make me look bad because you just completely mismanaged this
like the Angels and and didn't do it. That's what
I'm waiting to see. Because if that that that that
other shoe will drop sometime tomorrow Thursday, Friday as we
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get away from this.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Okay, two things here. Here's a quote from ERSA related
to Taylor specifically, we love Jonathan, we need Jonathan. Our
hope is Jonathan has an outstanding year and we have
a good year as a team, and then we get
his next contract done.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's the hope.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
We think the world of him is a person as
a player. It's just timing. When your time timing comes
to get paid, then you get paid.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
All right.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
The other part I could write, sources tell me that
right now. It doesn't make it. So have we not
had that problem his historically and sports media sources, Yeah,
we told him. I'm not saying a darn schefter is
gonna have this on Twitter. I'm saying that you know,
Schefter or Glazer or somebody or an insider where the
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team is going to say, hey, I have it here
that a team made this offer. Two teams made very
similar offers that were close to what really close to
what the Colts.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Want, and he said no because again he has the right.
Why again, this is why I was wrong, because I
mismanaged Jim Ersay's ability to screw things up. I really
that's my fault, because he, oh, we want to trade him, Okay,
here's offers. Now, I don't want to trade him. He's
fantasy owner that you go, when you're looking to make
a trade, you look at the team, you look at
(30:03):
the guy and go, yeah, I can't even look at
the players on his rosters. He's just gonna be ridiculous
and I'm We're never gonna make a trade. I'm gonna
offer him this guy. He's gonna want a different guy
and he's got someone added. Then I'm gonna say you
want I want this guy. Then you say I want
these two guys added, and it's never gonna get anywhere.
I'm just never gonna call him. I'm not I can't
do it. That's who Jim Irsay is in in layman's
terms and people you and I deal with all the time.
(30:25):
He's that guy. You don't even call him for a
trade because you know he's never gonna be able to
agree to it. It's never gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Well, that's the other angle on the whole Angels thing.
When we next revisit that, uh, that thing between luxury
taxes and that fantasy owner dumping players that could be
play onf viable for somebody else. That's a whole other
thing to get into. But yeah, I mean, like ersay,
I told you, man, don't underestimate you.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Dude. You you were correct. I was wrong. I was wrong, man,
I'm telling it. I admit it. His ability to screw
things up legendary.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Now, But that just when he's not screwed anything up.
Who knows, he might suddenly announce, you know what, we
signed him do a long term deal.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, sure, we're giving him twenty five million dollars a year,
four year, two years, billion guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But legitimately he may just come back and say, all right,
we're gonna give you the two years franchise tags going over.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
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talk man.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
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where today was cut Down Day in the NFL, and
coming up next, we're going to do a lot of
the Bizarre story because there were some really bizarre stories
today from the NFL, but this story today. There is
a bar in Milwaukee, of course, very close to Green
(32:56):
Bay and grim Packers used to play a couple of
games in y're in Milwaukee. That is raising the bar
when it comes to whatever duel they think they have
with Aaron Rodgers, former Packers quarterback Jack's American Pub recently
announced they will be offering fans free drinks for every
Aaron Rodgers loss with the Jets this season. The rules
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are pretty simple. You gotta be twenty one years old.
Of course, you start a tab fifteen minutes before the
Jets game, and you gotta watch the entire game there
after the clock runs out. Jets loss means drinks around
the house. So it's kind of like that furniture thing
that you do for Major League Baseball during the World Series. Hey,
I can buy all this furniture, and I and such
a team wins, I get it for free. Yeah, but
(33:43):
you have to buy it first. If they don't win,
so you gotta go to the bar, and you have
to start a tab before the game starts. You gotta
stay and watch the whole game, and you gotta drink.
And then at the end, if the Jets lose, your
bar tab is free.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Is there a minimum per person at the table? That's
one question?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Like, what's it considerate?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
How much of the drinks jack up beer prices for
that Jets game? Sure, you know you got to cover
yourself a little bit that way too. But I dig this,
I really do. I think this is a brilliant way
to get after it. And let's see in week one,
as we look at it, the Jets are two and
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a half point home dogs to the Bills.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
First of all, this bar is gonna do fine because
there's not gonna be that many losses for the Jets.
People think this is just gonna fail so spectacularly, and
it's you took a roster that has everything. You added
Aaron Rodgers, you added Dalvin Cook. I mean, how do you?
I mean, I don't want to say that too big.
(34:48):
I don't want to say they're too big to fail.
But this is a short again, buddy, don't do everywhere.
If listen, if Margot Robbie's in a bathtub explained to
me why the Jets lose, I'll listen to what she
has to say, but.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's not going You didn't hear a word she said.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
What just went right over my staring at.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
The bubbles, And you didn't care about any of what
she was trying to tell you. In terms of how
they were loading up these bond packages. I know you,
I know you and how you work.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I was just waiting to say, I am knough, okay,
I am kindoff here. You're not going to gain a
lot of free drinks. The Jets are loaded, and especially
the beginning of the season. There's no tape on this offense.
There's no tape on Rogers. With what's going on, they're
gonna have a big advantage. I'll tell you this Week one,
(35:37):
they are going to smash the Buffalo Bills. It's not
just about hey, but the Jets are loaded. They're playing
at home with their new quarterback. The fans are gonna
be insane. The Jets are gonna be insane to prove themselves.
And let's face it, the Bills have had problems this preseason.
They've had a lot of problems. Every month, there's a
story Stefan Diggs wants to be traded. Maybe he doesn't,
(35:59):
maybe he does. There they have not looked good in
preseason games, whether it's the first s ringers the backups.
The Bills have issues and issues already is maybe their
window was closed with the group they have and they
have to restart some things. They have a really good team,
but I'm telling you week one, the Jets are going
to smash them and it's gonna be whoa. The Jets
are announcing themselves week one of the regular season with authority.
(36:23):
They're gonna win.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Wait wait, wait, wait, you just went you though you
can sneak that past me?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
How dare you?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Dare you try to impugne my authority with what I
do here? Pop cultrawise here on Fox Sports Trade, How
dare you?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
And is sneaking past you? I was hoping you. Yeah,
if you didn't get it, I would be disappointed in you. Okay,
fair enough. They're gonna smash the bills week one. Smash
the bills. You want to do what? Just watch? They're
going to smash them. Just watch. I'm telling you, Jets
two and a half dot point dot yes, take it.
You know what. I'd even take that. You know what,
(36:59):
I don't need the points to one of the few
times I would say I didn't even need the points. Yeah,
but you get him. I don't need him. Somebody at
him for the purpose of the bar bet. I can
tell you that give me some Give him to somebody
else who needs a book. I want I want to
be I want to be a giving kind of guy here.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
That Jack barr ain't gonna be that generous.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Smash them. Coming up next, we get all the crazy
oddities of cutdown Day in the NFL. Keep it here,
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