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we left you, it was simply gonna be Yes, Alex
Cobb getting a no hitter, he's one out a way,
or are we really gonna talk about utter devastation? Well,
we're talking about utter devastation. With two outs in the
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ninth inning, right, Matt Alex Cobb with a no hitter.
He had walked a few batters, so he had a
couple of walks. In fact, he walked the batter in
the ninth inning. The Reds had committed an error, so
it couldn't be a perfect game. There's one on in
the ninth inning and all he needs to do is
get one more out. He gets a flyout to right
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for out number two. Okay, freedom flying out to right field,
and then disaster strikes with a strike on the batter.
We get a double to right field from Spencer Steer
that brings in Look. Spencer Steers having a great year.
He's a really good young player, all right. He the
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ops is over eight hundred. He hits a double to
the wall to bring in a run. Cob finishes the game.
Next batters Elie de la Cruz, who can't hit a
five run homer. It doesn't matter the Giants which no
no hitter for Alex Cobb. But watching this play at
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least four or five times since it happened, Louis Matos,
the right fielder, takes a really bad angle to this
ball and the ball is one of those where it's
it's ticketed for the gap and Matos is kind of
running alongside where the ball is to look to get it,
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and he gets to the point and the ball is
ten feet over his head, and had he taken a
better angle instead of straight across, I don't think he
really saw where the ball was going. He's able to
maybe get to a point where he can make an
athletic play, or maybe he can get the ball at
because he kind of takes a straight line across, and
had he gone back a little bit, he's maybe right
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there for the ball. He makes a running catch. Look,
I don't know, but if he makes the catch, maybe
he's there. Maybe it was too hard, but I know
watching this he took a bad route to the ball
and I was just stunned in that I'm watching it going.
I could see on the television this ball was further
than where he's running. This ball is further than where
he is running, and he kind of gives that leap
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in the air that he's not even close to it,
and it turns into into an RBI double for Steer
and he winds up not getting the no hitter. It
was it was painful to watch because here's Alex Cobb
who's thirty five years old, and you can tell some
pitchers they they don't know they're pitching a no hitter.
Or they're so locked in it doesn't matter. Cob is
feeling every moment of this right, every single up. You
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see him breathing on the mount. He looks one pitches
to finish the game. He was gonna be hyperventilating. He's
got his hands in the air for Slater's catch that
saves the no hitter in the eighth inning. You see
he's doing like breathing exercises to be able to pitch
the final batter, and Steer hits one. And it's just
where models takes a really bad route to the ball
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and he probably could have gotten the point where maybe
he makes a play on it or not. But I know,
for fat watching this, he did not give himself a
chance on that. And I think he's got to know
he took a bad route to the ball there.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, And it's the old you know, the first step
has got to be back, back, back and straight back.
And I'm looking at where your target running his spot
would be with all of these scores on the wall,
it would have been to where you're seeing the Orioles
bludgeoning the White Sox nine to three. If he'd run
straight to that spot, he might have had a shot
to catch it. I do like the ola. Hey, look
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I gave it the good old college try. Cob I
know is salty because he thought, you know, long after
my playing days, anytime I want to make a couple
of thousand dollars, I'll be able to go and do
an autograph signing. Oh sure, stead, you stole it from me.
He's stolen from me with a bad route. Look, there
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was a lot of driving. I mean, there was absolutely
no loft on that ball at all either.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
No, he had to take the right he had to
get a good jump and take the right route to
the ball. And I'm like, and I understand that, but dude,
this is the final out of a no hitter. Man,
this is where you gotta you gotta be on your game.
You gotta be ready for this. And he just wasn't there.
It was a really I'm watching it again here they're
showing the highlights on on MLB network, and it's a
big hit. But he comes in and then can't get
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back and it's a bad route and he doesn't wind
up getting the ball, you know, Slater winds up getting
it out center field. It was a really bad route.
It was a bang bang play and That's why I
want to say, I don't know that he would have
made the catch, but he might have had a chance
to it. He could have had a diving catch, could
have made a leaping catch, a running catch. He was
really close to it, but a really bad route to
the ball because you can see him kind of take
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a first couple of steps in and then go straight
across towards the ball and leap and it's behind him.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And would you know one of those cases like when
you're playing either street baseball or you know, basketball with
your friends, and so, will you know what cheeters proof?
So you got you got saved by your outfielder last skinning.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
This guy was not able to do it. And I
can't tell you know, it's funny you say that because
I can't tell you how many times still at this
level when I'm when I'm when I'm coaching the girls
that I coach in in in Zoe's team and even
the all stars in state championship going to this team
there there there's still four or five times over the
course of a month where I have to after a play,
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I have to tell one of the girls, as an outfielder,
where is your first step back. What did you do
right there? I came in. Okay, first step is back,
got it, got it, got it. And it just happens.
It just happens that that that instinct takes over and
you either don't get a good read on the ball
and it's your first step is back because it's it's
it's it's the first thing you learn when you're an outfielder.
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When you're there, step is back. You can always come in,
you can't always go back. First STEP's got to be in.
And you know, maybe he was playing a little bit
more shallow because you want to guard against the bleeder,
because you know that's got to be in everybody's mind
that hey, he almost gave it up in the in
the eighth inning with that, with that little dying quailed
the center field. But at the same time, okay, if
you if you're if you're if you're thinking that and
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you're playing a little bit in, you gotta know when
that is hit. I mean, look, Monos has played a while.
Alex on his first game in the major leagues, Uh,
you gotta know that this has got to be a
better route you take to the ball than that's circuitous
route he took and I guarantee you he's mad. He's
mad at himself. He knows he took a bad route.
He didn't get to that ball could have saved the
no hitter. But still it's really frustrating to know if
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you're Alex Codd that boy had had he just maybe
taken a different route, maybe he catches it. I mean,
the guy hit it hard. Steer hit it hard.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It wasn't one of those allays hard, make a better pitch.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Ham it the same way. I'll tell you it. Really
I put it back on Cob. I did I like that?
I like that. Uh, but you know what I did
like honestly, you know I like the most is that
Gabe Kapler left him in the game. Yeah, because Dave
Roberts left the Dodger game because it's the Diamondbacks is
a thirteen game lead. He got on a supersonic jet
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and flying to San Francisco to take Alex Cobb out
of the game. Boy, no, we are going to the
ninth inning. No no, no, we can't. We can't have it.
But Gabe Kapler leaves him in the game. He's into
the ninth inning at one hundred and thirteen pitches, at
thirty five years old, and and the fact, hey, I'm
gonna leave you in and not only that, because normally
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a pitcher like that, Hey, okay, he gives up the
first hit, I'm gonna take you out of the game. Nope, Nope,
you're staying in there. Fin it's on this shadoff. You've
thrown one hundred and twenty five pitches. Do we gotta
get you out of here because we're still a playoff team,
you know were we got playoff hopes and dreams. We're
six games over five hundred. We want you to pitch.
You've pitched pretty well this season here, raised about three
and a half. No, no, no, gonna leave you out
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there to finish this game so you can get everything
you need and everybody gives you a big ovation. No,
I dig that. Gabe Capler did that? Man, that's something
that that managers. They win the team, you win a dugout,
and they love you even more when you're saying, hey,
you have a chance to do something special. I'm going
to allow you to do this, even though maybe I shouldn't,
but I'm gonna do it because I know you want
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to do it, and it's the right and it's gonna
be a memory of a lifetime for you. He'll look
back at his career. Look, Alex Cobb has pitching major
League baseball for a long time, right, It's been there.
He had early days with the Rays where he was
really good. You thought he would be one of the
best pitchers in baseball for a while. Didn't quite work
out that way. But still you're talking about a guy
who was who was you know, not in the middle,
but you know, still thirty five years old. He's in,
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you know, a twelve year career. This would be the
absolute ultimate highlight personally for him, and Gabe Coppler gave
him a chance to do it, and I dig that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I think the other part to it, Jason, is that
you do have a six to nothing lead, So it's
like you busted your ass, we got your back, let's
finish this thing. Right, There's there's something still to be
said in this day and age, and we talk about
it all the time. The complete game, you know, the
no hitter, obviously you want that, right, There's so much
to it. And I joke kind of about the autograph
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shows and whatever. I mean, that's that's revenue streams, right,
whenever we get in into those kind of things, when
you have those kind of milestones and big events, those
are things you'll trade on forever. But one hundred and
thirty one pitches, you're still in the playoff hunt.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You're a mid.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Thirties guy, and you've got a manager who's been through it, right,
a guy we've talked to a bunch and our tenure
on the show back when he was part of the
Dodgers organization and everything. You know, when you're talking about
a guy that you know, knows what this means to
a clubhouse, a.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Guy that you know.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
As much as we get into managers and guys that
played at the highest level, we do this with head
coaches in football, whatever, where there's maybe a difference and
a different tact that gets taken. For Gabe Kaplar, I
think this was one to send a message to your squad.
All right, we're finishing at a complete game in this
day and age as you're heading towards September, how many
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of those are we going to see? Right right now,
we're celebrating Clayton Kersha right in line for the win,
Mookie bleeping bets with another home run.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
All of this stuff. But Kershaw got through five.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It's like, yeah, he's in line for the win and
you're hoping to get five or six most nights out
of him.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
This guy got to go.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
To the distance man one hundred and thirty one pitches somewhere,
no one Ryan raised a glass of whatever the hell
it is that no one Ryan drinks for excellence to
celebrate one hundred and thirty one pitch performance.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Now, the only downside to this, obviously he didn't get
the no hitter is that, you know, I'm sure Kapler
had his arm around him walking off the field saying, Okay, Alex, Hey,
you didn't get it, but I left you in that game, right, yeah,
I did, just holid. Yeah, skip, thanks a lot. Okay,
now we're going to go to the postgame training table
and you're going to eat seaweed and keenwa and all
kinds of healthy stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
He really did get after your diet quite a bit
when he used to join us.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
But wait, but wait, yeah, I mean when we had
Gabe kapleron when he was uh he was when he
was an executive with the Dodger Yeah, yeah, right before
he became a manager. He was used to come on
the show all the time, and we talk about all
the health food that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
He in the health food blogs he had going on. Yeah,
and then you'd say something about you know something you
ate and he'd just mock you.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
He'd just be like, come on, man, and then he'd
give us a recipe. He always had, like some random
recipe for a oh yeah, or some sort of vegetable
dish that he wanted you to make.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I had that smoothie recipe written down for the longest time, saying, well,
I got to try it at some point, so when
Gabe Kapla comes on the show, but you know what happened,
he got it. He got the men at geriald gig
with the Phillies and then come on after and that
was good and he couldn't come on anymore. I'm like,
all right, I'll put it somewhere, and I had but
I had that thing for the longest time, but I'm like, ah,
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who knows where it is. I mean we had a
lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Like those conversations would get good baseball knowledge, a lot
of stuff about the minor leagues and insights about getting
through the developmental side of it. And then it would
inevitably get into diet exercise and uh, well us feeling a.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Little worse about ourselves. You know I had Krispy Kreme
deliver for last night. Yeah, yeah, we did. Oh. Hey,
I was a hero today because you know last night
on the show, you know, you ordered Krispy Kreme and
we had some leftover. You took some home. I took
some of home. I was the hero of the day
because both Pam and Zoe get up this morning and
they see that big Krispy Kream box. They're like, oh Dad, Dad,
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did us in solid day? Yeah? No, they love me
this morning. Man, Hey, there you go. All about the love.
That's it. Yeah. Did you text me today? How many
donuts did you have on the way home? And I
said zero? But I had two when I got up
this morning. I was pretty proud of you that you
got You had a big zero. I'm the same. I
had one before I went to bed. Yeah. No, I
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can't eat like that late at night. Now, that's one
thing I know I can't do. Can't can't eat. Can't
eat like that late at night before I'm going to bed.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Like it was weird though, like I don't normally dream.
I had a very vivid dream because like my birthday,
was it an awesome dream? It was an awesome dream. No,
there's no question about it. To quote the great Lionel
Ritchie is. You know, we've been talking about my daughters
and I going to see Sting as part of the
birth birthday of Festive and he's gonna be at the
Hollywood Bowl. I had a dream that we were at
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some random party where suddenly the police were going to
play a set at like the Swanky whatever it was
at somebody's condo.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And my actual band the police, the police. Yeah, okay,
not like starting up, no, no.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
So Stuart Goplin and Andy Summers are there and their
Sting and my older daughter wasn't watching any of the
stuff as they were getting ready to take take to
the little mini stage that was constructed because someone had
smashed some lego set that Sting had built and she
was convinced she had to put it back together.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Very vivid, very weird, kind.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Of like the Singing Rock said, come.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
On, I don't normally dream or remember it.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I was like, what the hell? So yeah that was
last night? Oh because of a Krispy Kreme at midnight.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Oh man, it's it's it's awesome when Sunday is like, man,
I wake up Ago. What kind of dream was that?
What kind of what kind of dream was that that
I have? I mean someone told me yesterday, I mean
not quite like my Zach Wilson dream. Well, you know,
I was. I was. The Jets asked me to watch
over him while he was signing autographs in a mall,
which I mean, really, do you think that that's so
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out of the realm of that Jets would call me
and say, hey, dude, you gotta watch over there. He's uh,
he's he's gonna sign autographs in the mall and we're
not quite sure how it's gonna go, so we need
you to be able to watch over him a little bit.
That's something I think they would do that.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
That's where Harmon's mind goes. And folks, right now, Uh,
you don't light a candle say a prayer for me.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
But I'll tell you awesome stuff so close for Alex
Cobb and Matos misplays it, but Kapler leaving him in
it was an awesome, awesome one. We nearly had another
no hitter in Major League Baseball exit. How about a
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Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
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Speaker 1 (16:17):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon Live from the tire rag dot Com Studios. Now,
I gotta tell you this, Mike, because this was something
you know, we've been talking about Alex Cobb, his pursuit
and the no hitter. You know, perfection and you never
know when you can get it right, and Alex Cobb
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didn't get it. We're gonna play the play by play
of the hit that broke up the no hitter with
two outs in the ninth inning just a few moments ago.
But you know, many times in your life you get
perfection when you're not looking for it. Okay, Now, last night,
well we talked about the bad night Kyle Barratclaw had
pitching for the Red Sox, gave up ten runs. Alex
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Cord didn't take him out of the game. I said, mmm,
bear Claw, you wound up buying donuts for everybody because
you know you wanted a bear claw.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
That's how that's how it works. Well, I mean that's
kind of how it worked. I didn't get a bear claw,
but we got the equivalent. Everybody so happy. Everybody got fed.
We had sugar to finish the show.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Let me tell you, I found perfection today and I
wasn't even looking for it right at that. So Pam
and I go out to lunch and we go to
Rock and Wagner, which is like kind of a bakery
that they have sandwiches and everything too. We're like, okay, okay,
so we go to Rock and Wagner. It's just, you know,
it's just a place in la that sells really good bread,
very very you know, very uh uh, how do I say,
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A very popular, trendy place to buy all kinds of bread. Right,
They have lunch, sure, but like everything is cheap. It's
not really really expensive. It's just one of those cool places.
So we go there for lunch and I get a
sandwich on pretzel bread and I said, what do you
want on the side, And I said, ah ah, they
have tater totts. You know me, I like tots. I'll
get the tots on the side. The sandwich sandwich is fantastic.
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I'm not lying to you. In my life. Fifty two
years old, this was the best serving of tater tots
I have ever really had. This was perfection in a
tater tot. It was so crunchy on the outside, perfect
on the inside, salted perfectly, I'm saying. I said, I tried.
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I took a bite by first, and I said, Pam,
you gotta have this. She goes what because she's not
really a tater tots person. I said, this is the
best tater tot I've ever had in my life. I
have found it right, and I have had all kinds
of tater tots. They slathered it with cheese and onions
and stuff and gravy. No, no, no, tater tot absolute perfect.
Fifty two years old, I had the perfect tater tot.
Now I'm gonna want to go there at least once
a week just to order tater tots because they met
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I actually I went and I said, hey, can I
talk to the chef. They're like, yeah, it was everything, Okay.
I said yes, and I said, these were the best
Tater Tots I've had in my life. And I've and
I've had fifty two trips around the sun. I don't know.
The guy got it when I said that. He's like,
thank you, I got you got it that I found
perfection in Tater Tots today. I wasn't even looking for
it and it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I'm gonna be honest, I'm looking at their website now.
I mean, I don't know if the umlat is appropriately used.
I mean I read a giant interview where Ian Anderson
of Jethro Tull was making fun of other bands like
Motorhead and stuff kind of misappropriating and Motley Crue because
he has a new album out called rope Flute with
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Lot and the situation used appropriately. Uh So, I don't
know if this is used right at Rock and Wagner.
But I am telling you I like the idea of
bachelor loaves and craft buns.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I mean it was I I can't tell you how
outstanding it was, absolutely outside perfection, perfection. I never thought
I get there perfectionator Todd. I didn't think about it.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I mean, do you think they made them themselves or
were these iced and bagged from somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I don't know, man, but they were so crunchy and
they were so perfect, not neely at all, everything around
and the salt and there's a little bit of ketchup.
Oh like it was. It was. I'm saying that I
found perfection. I found a perfect I should call Duff
Golden a go best thing I ever eight dude, go
have the tater Tots at Rock and Wagoner. This is
kind of a big deal.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I mean, it is a u FO moment I could tell,
but they sound an excitement in your voice because, let's
face it, I mean, there's a lot of tots that
have been had through the years. So this is something
that really hits you in expected spot.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Perfection, absolute perfection. Now, speaking of perfection, it was a
no hitter that Alex Cobb was headed towards and we
told you they got broken up with two outs on
the ninth inning. Steer with a big Steers had a
pretty big year for the Reds. You know, we talk
a lot about Elie Day Lacruz, Steers having a pretty
big year himself, twenty home run seventy RBI's got ops
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of eight hundred. He doubles to the wall and right,
but Luis Matos, the right fielder, takes a really bad
route to the He comes in a couple of steps,
cuts across, not near enough to the ball that he
needs to be to make it, and it falls in
for a double to break up the no hitter with
two outs in the ninth inning. Here's how it sounded
on the Giants radio network.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
One pitch, there's a drive in the right side of field.
On the run, Mato's back into his right and it's
over his head. It will roll into the sixth archway
and that's the first hit coming around to score is
Senzal and it is six to one, and that takes
away the no hitter for Alex Khan.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Oh just to you can see Mato's and really bad
route to the ball. I mean, I don't know, I
don't know how you feel if you're Alex Cobb, are
you do you feel like I did everything I could?
Or do you feel like and you're and you're and
you do you feel like I did all? And I
can't blame myself or do you feel man, if you
were just taking a little bit better route to that man,
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you could have made that play.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Remember he saved the inning before. This is some you
take some, you give away some. In this case, I
mean he hammered the ball too, right. I mean that
was not a cheap hit, nor was it an easy
routine play. So now we're talking about, all right, if
you'd taken a three point two degree step to your
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right and back versus left and back. I mean, that's
where we're at with our sports science as we evaluate
this one, Jason. So I don't know that I want
to overthink it in that regard. I think if your cob,
you're satisfied with your effort, you're probably a little pissed
at the that you left the ball up in the
zone because you gave him a pitch to drive to
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the gap. Right, So I would think you're a little
saltier at yourself than you are the outfielder and one
that got away.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I can see that. I can see you're more mad
at yourself there, I guess.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I look, we're all at least I am. I'm more
apt to blame myself for myriad things in life. Which
really aren't my fault versus folks that just like to
blame everybody else. And if you're right now and we're
all feeling seen right now, that you might want to
look at the mirror and reevaluate what the hell you're
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doing on any basis. But I am one that I
will wear fault for things that really there's no chance
at hell it's my fault. You know. That's just the
you know, the Catholic guilt from my childhood and stayed
with me. But in a society where most folks like
to blame everybody else for everything else, right, like Cob,
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I think will be introspective on this one. He's a veteran.
He's been through the wars mighty look at it, you
know it once or twice, go oh so close if
he but he'll get over that fast and he'll be
mad at the pitch that he sent up.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
There.
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Speaker 1 (23:58):
So let me just say this, because now I'm gonna
give you the rarest thing you will hear on this show,
because it doesn't happen very often, but I'm a man.
I have responsibility, I have beliefs, I have things that
I know that are right, and I need to say
that I was wrong.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
I was wrong. Mike Harmon, you were right and I
was wrong.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Wow, this is a monumental, a seminole moment for the show.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Jonathan Taylor remains an Indianapolis cult.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
I was wrong. I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I told you last week. Hey, this is happening. They
want to get rid of him. It's emotional. Jim ursays
made it emotional. He wants out, he wants to move on.
They want to be they want to be Richardson driven,
and this is how they're going to do it. We've
already put out there what we want in the trade.
We're gonna make it happen. Yes, I told Monday he'll
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be dealt by Friday, and Wednesday I doubled down. By
the end of the day Saturday, he's gonna be gone.
He is not traded today. His roster has moved down
to fifty three. He is still on the physically unable
to perform list, which means he's going to miss the
first four games of the season. He can still get
dealt before the deadline, but it did not happen. And
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I was wrong. You were right, And I'm telling you
and and and the reason I was wrong, and that
is a reason I was wrong. It's my fault that
I was wrong. I'm not blaming anybody. I'm not I'm
not gonna well, there's a reason why I was wrong. No, no, no, no, no,
because because that's my wife does all the time. Every
time she's wrong about something, there's always a reason for it.
It's not like it happened. It's just it's an excuse
for I just have to say it like this because
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I don't want her to hear me in the other room.
But that's the whole thing. Oh but we're gonna start
singing it was your fault. It was. There's a reason
why I was wrong. There's a reason why. No, but
let me tell you the reason I was wrong. Didn't
work because I was wrong, because it's my fault. It's
my fault because I underrestmated the capability and likelihood that
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Jim Ersay and being the complete wild card that he is,
is going to screw it up, and they weren't going
to be able to make a trade. I I did
not factor in of all the other things. It's emotionally
wants to move on. The guy did it to himself
by saying if I die, and Jonathan Taylor's uh not
in the league. Nobody cares. They did it to it.
But I underestimated the fact that he can completely blow
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things up even when it's of his own making. And
that's my fault. The wild card he is, that is
completely my fault. That's on me. That I was I
was wrong. I didn't take that into account and I'm
never gonna do that again. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
See that that's what I was banking on in this
whole thing. Uh huh right, I mean we're right, and
you were right to bank on him.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
But you know from the straight let's be logical, let's
go through this process. Sometimes it's good to just say, hey,
we're done with this. Right if you're in a relationship
where you know you're you're drifting and you know that
it's I mean, at some point, maybe you decide, hey,
it's done, or do you just let it linger forever,
Let's keep going. You know, the George stands up, they
can't fire me if they can't find me, of course,
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or you can't break up with me if you can't
find me, believe it or not, George isn't at home,
leave the message at the beep of those kind of situations.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
And from a.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Logical standpoint, yeah, I agreed with you. From the idea of,
all right, Taylor wants out and he thinks he needs
to get paid somewhere else, and we don't know what
the conversations are behind the scenes right as to you know,
how it got to that point and where we're at
and what could potentially be resolved by just saying, look,
we're not paying you right now. But we were really
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prepared and ursay did some of that during the process.
But the other one was a sexier quote. I mean saying, look,
if I die and you move on, everybody, everybody will
still play football and the league moves on.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
That's sexier. The other one was we really like Jonathan,
it's just not his time to get paid yet, which
is business pragmatism for a guy coming off of an
injury and everything else. But that's not the hot, salacious,
sexy headline the same way.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But so while logically it would say.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
All right, they need to just break it off because
the season started Orze's just that guy going, yeah, I
don't think so.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
And that's what.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I was banking on the entire time. Yeah, of a
first round pick.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
No, you completely banked on all the right things you
banked on. I did not, and I did not, and
that's and that's my fault. Now.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Part of this, though, Jason is also having watched him,
I think, bit against himself oftentimes for rock memorabilia, okay,
and so knowing that he's a guy that he's going
to get what he wants. In other words, if you're
really not coming up to match his price for what
he thinks Jonathan Taylor is worth. And this again goes
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back to the disconnect and everybody getting mad saying, well
they don't value him as a first round pick. It's like,
sure they do. They just want him to play under
the four million dollar deal that he's got for this year.
I don't see why that's wrong. Why extend a guy
before you have to? How many times has that gone
and jumped and bitten people in the ass before? Orsay
wasn't going down that road. Now did it need to
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go as it did? No, We've talked about that ad nauseum.
But when we look at it going forward. Yeah, I
think he's a guy that I mean, you know what
you have, right, I know what I have.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Don't question me.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
And even if a someone did come with the offer
that was on paper the right offer, I had no
conviction at all that ERSA would just say, Okay, cool,
they met my offer, let's go. I was fully prepared
for him to say, Nope, that deal's off the table.
We live in a different world than we did thirty
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seconds ago.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
See. I took it from the perspective, he's so mad,
he's so upset, he's gonna do it. He's gonna take
the offer that comes in, the best off that comes in.
Someone's gonna and he just didn't do it. He sigh, No,
I'm not gonna do it. And here's the thing is
that this is why I know he screwed it up.
He told everybody what they wanted, or it got out there.
We're looking for a first round pick or the equivalent
of a first round pick. Do you really think all
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the teams that have been calling were they were all
low balling. I'm saying, we're not gonna he how about
a third round pick and a seventh round pick? How
about a ninth round pick. We don't have that anymore,
doesn't matter ninth round pick. Do you really think they
all called to lowball? No, these teams want Jonathan Taylor.
You're calling to get if you want Jonathan Taylor. Do
you really think everybody lowballed them? Or this was maybe
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he was never going to trade him in the first place. Look,
I'm gonna allow you a few days to think you
can go out and get an offer, and hey, this
is what we want. Go out there, best of luck,
and when it comes down to it, I'm just not
gonna trade you because I find it hard to believe
that no team said that, no team gave a good
offer to him. And you know how I'm gonna know this.
In the next couple of days, you watch and see
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if there's sources, a story comes out from an NFL
inside of somewhere sources team offered first rounder for Taylor
and Colts told them no, or team offered a second
and a third that could be a second and another
second if Taylor met certain playing time. Whatever it is,
you're gonna if you see that story the next couple
of days, you know for a fact that this was
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Jim Ursay just doing his thing and screwing things up
and being the meddling owner, the bad owner that he is.
But I'm not gonna be surprised when you see that
sources team X. Maybe we got the team. Maybe we
find out the Dolphins or somebody else team at Maybe
we get the name of the team. Maybe we just
get unnamed team, we get mystery team. Maybe you're white.
SOX were involved in it, trying to faut to wait
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to get Jonathan Taylor. Uh hey, mystery team. Team offered
first round pick for Taylor, was told no, was told
we're not moving him for this or or then they
were told it was a bait and switch. Then it
was no, we want two first rapet. You're gonna see
that story somewhere the next couple of days, because I
find it hard to believe that all the teams called them,
they all lowballed for Jonathan Taylor when he's somebody you
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in theory calling to want to go. Yet you're not
calling to say, let's see if I get them for nothing. Well,
we know what they're looking for, so okay, let's see
if we can make a trade.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, I mean the curiosity you know that goes with
that is what were the dollars uh in contract considerations
that were part of it, right, because that's the other
other shoe that had to drop in. This was all right,
you found your trade and your trade partner. That means
you're amenable to whatever those dollars were. And maybe that
part of it didn't work either, right, Maybe maybe the
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other teams are like, well, we want to see how
healthy that ankle is. We want to see what you
do for us before we're going to put twenty six
million dollars out there or whatever. Some fictional math was
three for forty. I heard people talking like, who's given
them three for forty? I don't know where that these
numbers were just grasping in the air, saying, hey, it's
going to be, you know, in line with McAffrey and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We learn nothing, We learned nothing. I don't know that
there was I don't know there was going to be
a three for I saw, Hey, a few saw that
number couple of times, right, I saw it, but I thought, hey,
especially when the Dolphins restructured Cedric Wilson's contract to free
up three million dollars, I said, okay, they're gonna give
Jonathan Taylor three more million dollars this year, and then
they'll guarantee him twelve million next year. That could be
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fifteen million. Let's just say whatever. Then you get him
for two going to be I thought that's what I thought.
It was gonna that. That's what I saw was realistic,
and it still didn't happen. But again I was wrong.
You were right. I was wrong. You were right, my friend.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I was right about jim irsay, I will hang that banner, yeah,
like he did. Yeah, because that's AFC title game.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's like, that's like hooking a Marlin by yourself. Man,
that's not easy to do. I was right about Jimmy.
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Fox Sports Radio, the Jason Smith Show with my best
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Trey Lance spoke for the first time since becoming a
member of the Dallas Cowboys. He says it's a breadth
of fresh air to be with Dallas. He is excited
to be here. Didn't expect anything one way or another.
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But it's not how a lot of people expected it
to go. I'm here for a reason. I just want
to find a way to help the team. Now, Trey
Lance aid all the right things today in coming to Dallas,
I have a lot to learn, and I'm excited to
learn from Dak Prescott. You know Walter Payton NFL Man
of the Year, he talked about that. So Trey Lance
said all the right things. Oh yeah, but we talked
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about this last night and you can find it on
social media out Fox Sports Radio Twitter account. This trade
was made to put a clock on Dak Prescott for
upping his play or the Cowboys will replace him. Now
you're looking at a quarterback room that is Dak Prescott,
Cooper Rush, who played very well last year, not Dak Prescott,
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but the Cowboys still won. Now you have a guy
like Trey Lance's developmental quarterback. All of this is done
to push Dak Prescott to new heights. We told been
telling you all off season long. The failure against the
forty nine Ers changed things for Dak Prescott and the
Dallas Cowboys are looking for way to say we need
something better out of our franchise quarterback or they will
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move on. And it doesn't mean they need to move
on to Trey Lance or Cooper Rush. This is just
this is just an example. Trey Lance is just an
example of we will move on if you're not good.
We're stockpiling quarterbacks now. Maybe these guys are in our answer,
Maybe we go get somebody in free agency. Welcome to Dallas,
Kyler Murray. But if you don't step it up and
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you don't give us something more than that ridiculous egg
you laid in the NFC Championship game, we will move on.
Dak Prescott doesn't have garretaranteed money the last two years
of his deal after this year. Right, there's a dead
cap hit for him, but there's no guaranteed money after
this year. Thirty million dollars of his salary is not guaranteed.
There's a lot of things that Cowboys can do money wise.
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They can franchise it if they want to. Twenty twenty four,
this is what we're doing. There's lots of things they
can wind up doing. The fact that this is the
last year before changes have to be made, they are
putting a clock on Prescott, and this year becomes the
year for Dak Prescott. If he doesn't come through, you're
looking at the Cowboys accelerating that mark. And maybe it's
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after this year, or at at least it's after the
next that Prescott's not going to be the Dallas Cowboys
quarterback anymore. Trust me, everything has changed how they view
him after that debacle in San Francisco. Yeah, I mean,
I really like that.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
My terminology of a distress property in liking it to
you know, townhouses or houses that are in disarray, Unfortunate
circumstances befall someone, so they've gotta let it go, perhaps
under market value.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
And that's what you're looking at Trey Lance. We have
no idea what he is, but for a fourth round pick.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Jerry goes and he gets to put a little bit
on Dak and he said all the right things today,
did Lance in terms of being welcomed in. But we
all watched the video of that presser that Dak Prescott
did yesterday. That was not a man happy with this move.
That was not a man satisfied with where he stands.
You don't think he went and had a conversation with
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Jerry Jones or his agent did after that.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You're kidding yourself telling you the clock is ticking, tic
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