September 1, 2023 • 41 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon talk with weekly guest Jason Cole as they tell fun stories about Gil Brandt after his passing.
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It is a big night of college football and you
probably tuned in to say, hey, you know I want
to watch we have We'll get to Nebraska. There's lots
of millennials in gen z ors watching Nebraska going I
don't understand. Trust me, there's a reason why Nebraska's on
national TV. It used to be so great, but you know,
Utah and Florida big Game of the night. Okay, you know,
(01:15):
I get it all good. Yeah, people wanted to do it.
That's the game they want to see. If you have
direct TV, well.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You're saying, why are we starting with this? If you have.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Charter Communications, if you have Spectrum providing your cable, yes,
you understand, and you are nodding your head. You're going,
this is why the two highest trending topics in the
world are YouTube TV and Spectrum. Spectrum apparently has had
a big war going on with ESPN and Disney.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And just before the start of the.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Game tonight on ESPN between Utah and Florida, the college
football Game of the Night, Spectrum decided to let everybody know, hey, uh,
we're dropping Disney owned channels from our platform. And there's
a whole big scroll on TV like it's the beginning
with Star Wars movie. It is a time of unrest
in the galaxy.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The Empire.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
There you go, there's a bit, and they should have
done it just like that and had to scroll looking
like it was going with the music. How they feel that,
in fairness they can't keep going forward and ESPN and
Disney Disney specifically we say ESPN because look, we're talking
about sports. We're talking about the game that's affecting everything.
Disney's asks are unrealistic. They look forward to solving this soon,
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but right now they cannot carry any of the programming.
So there's no ESPN and there's like no free Form,
there's no other channels, and people tune in to watch
Utah and Florida and are not getting the game. Then
instead get that big page that tells you this is
what's going on. And Spectrum and Disney are at odds
and it's wait a minute, wow. First you would say, well,
(02:54):
well played here, Spectrum, look at you do it. We're
gonna show you right now. Here's the whole thing, Mike Carmen.
And this is a really this I mean, I love
this story. This is business of sports.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Guys. Oh yeah, this is where I live.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
This is me trying to cut first. This is us,
We're trying to cut in first. Cable is a dying entity.
More people are cutting cap We've been We've been talked
about this for so long, right, you know you want
to hear a tire topic on the radio or TV
on cord cutting is affecting the industry.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Click, I've heard about this but this is what's going on.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Spectrum has decided to say, hey, we can't carry Disney
related programming right now because of our dispute.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
We're hoping to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
This is falls under the definition of overplaying your hand,
because when it comes down to it, people are going
to want. The average viewer is not going to throw
their arms around Spectrum and say, yes, I want Spectrum
and everything they have to offer.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I love their programming.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I love that every time I turned on Spectrum, my
TV defaults to the Spectrum News Network and I gotta
put it back on the TV I had it on.
I love Spectrum, but it's like they're like my extended family,
my Spectrum. No, people want what Disney has to offer,
whether it is sports, whether it is live sports, which
is a huge deal, or whether it is free forms
you can watch the Harry Potter movies whenever they're on,
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or whatever else there is more. People are going to
be much more sympathetic or much more understanding that my
bread is buttered on this stuff I want. Well, I
don't care about my cable. If this isn't gonna happen,
I gonna watch college football this weekend. No one's gonna
write letters the Spectrum saying yes, I'm with you, let
me know what you need. I'll fight you in this war. No,
they're gonna say, I'm gonna find a way to get
out of this so i can get live sports on
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my TV this weekend, and I'm gonna go buy YouTube
I'm gonna subscribe to YouTube TV or whatever else it's
going to be. They're gonna try to bundle stuff now
and say screw it, I'm not gonna mess around anymore,
and they're gonna go and you are going to see
people leaving cable and pushing more people away to streaming
programming and streaming entities.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
This is Spectrum.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Overplaying their hand because do they really think people It's
gonna be just just It's like we see downtown all
the time. There's all these the strike going on right
now in Hollywood with with no new programming, and everybody
wants more money. The writers want more money, and everybody
wants to get more compensated because they deserve it. That's
not gonna happen for Spectrum. No one's gonna be standing
on the court of going, hey, help Spectrum fight the
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evil at bar that is Disney because You don't need
to watch Oklahoma Nebraska on Saturday. You don't need to
watch Florida State and Miami. You want to watch whatever
Spectrum has. Look, this is not going to go well
now that I'm a big business guy, But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't think Spectrum it's gonna go well for them.
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Now I think you know what's funny is you get
into the headiness of all of this. And we've watched
packaging and bundling for many, many years. Right, it used
to be the hey, would you like the extra sports package,
you know, for out of town stuff? Back when that
was the thing, right when you had your regional networks,
and that was it, Like, would you like to see
what happens in the football in the South? Check yes,
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for an extra eight dollars a month. Now we're at
the point where it's all right, well, I bundle over here,
I got this over here. Maybe you already have Disney
Plus plus Hulu right for the extra couple of bucks
a month, And you've decided, well, I've nickeled in dime
to this point because you know, one kid likes this show.
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This kid likes this show. I like having all twenty
seasons of law and order at my disposal in case
I need to tap that fix anytime. So you know,
we all have hard things and creature comforts in our
viewing habits. Now, looking at a little bit of research
going back to last year, when you talk about these
carriage rights, you might have a station that's you know,
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a couple of pennies a month per subscriber, right, nothing big.
Maybe it's old shows that have a little bit of
run right, kind of the me TV kind of world
where it's it's there, all right, it's out there, it's
not public domain. Someone still gets paid by it, but
it's the idea that you know, it's not the high
demand stuff. So you get at a bit of a song.
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And then you have the ESPN, which the estimates were
as high as almost eight dollars a subscriber on.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Your cable bill was ESPN.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Now, I don't know about you, I know an awful
lot of people that will never flip to ESPN, not
for political things, not because of wokeness or whatever word
you want. They just don't give a damn about sports,
So they're not going there, or the Deuce or any
of the other family of ESPN channels.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So for them, that's eight dollars.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, I mean that's a couple of cups of coffee
somewhere right local diner in any.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Town, USA. So they're a little salty.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So yeah, it becomes the all right, what's the next repackaging,
repurposing now for them. It also backfired because this game
sucks twenty four to three. To quote our guy ballad
from last night. You know, it's not like you're getting
a barnburner going into the final seconds.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It sucks. It sucks for you.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It sucks for you watching, It sucks for the players playing,
It sucks with the announcers announcing, it sucks for everybody.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
No, and like maybe maybe Florida suddenly stages a comeback
there they're getting ready to mount a big play on
a fourth and three, moving the ball here mid third quarter,
but it's twenty four to three.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You're moved on. You're rowing the boat with PJ Fleck.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, who finds himself down after one of the most
improbable plays.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I start a second half, you'll ever see which we'll
get to. We'll get to Nebraska, Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
We'll row the well, DJ, We'll row the boat on
that game in a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Nicely done.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
But yeah, when it comes down to this, it's the
I don't care about the cable company, all right, it's
the I don't care the brand of Like you get
to toilet paper and maybe maybe you've got something is
a little softer, you like the extra you know, two
ply whatever. But in the end, aren't you going cost
hunting when you're going down the toilet paper and paper
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towel aisle?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
You know?
Speaker 4 (08:52):
No, No, But I'm saying I don't know as many people,
and I'm certainly not that guy where I'm brand dependent
when it comes to that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh No.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Likewise, whether it's Spectrum, Charter or whatever the hell else
it is, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
As long as I got it's got all. Yeah, it's
gotta be good enough.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Like like, yeah, I'm not gonna buy the toilet paper
that's just gonna break when when like like when the
tiniest oh shure, Like that's like that's like watching a
college football game in regular television, like, well, look at
the streaks that are.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
On the TV.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
No, if I go to Coe, you really have to
go to the look at the streaks.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
At the I kind of did I kind of did, Like.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That was just kind of filthy, and you just made
my brain hurt.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You made that leap.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
But like, if I go to Costco to get to
get toilet paper, Okay, there's Charman, there's extra soft, and
there's extra sturdy, and there's Kirkland brand.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Okay, they're all fine. I can get anyone.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now if one is twenty four ninety nine and one
is nineteen ninety nine and one is twenty two ninety.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Nine, hey, okay, I'll get the nineteen ninety nine one,
but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Gonna go ay over here, it's three ninety nine. You
get roll out, maybe you will. And it's just and
it's just toilet paper that disintegrates when you pull it off.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Throw no. As long as it's okay, I use it.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And that's the whole thing with cable is that as
long as hey, you know, all this whole war of
going to all these different streaming services, people that have
stuck with cable and look, and I still have Cable
because I like live sports. I like getting all the
different channels. But people say, as long as I'm getting
what I need, I don't really need to go crazy.
Like I still like the product I'm getting. But this
is just another chip in the stone of if you're
(10:22):
telling me I can't get ESPN, right, I mean that's
I mean, forget what you say about ESPN five. ESPN
has tons of live sports. Everybody watches, right, we all watch.
It's a really big bleeping deal. If you're telling me
I can't get ESPN on my television, Am I gonna
stick with that cable company?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Or am I going to something else in the next day?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I have, Well, but then I want to watch Syracuse
and Colgates Saturday and it's on acc X and ESPN
plus plus plus plus, So I gotta find a way
to get that for Saturday because I want to watch
that game. But that's the thing, right for cable companies,
it now becomes the all right, what's our critical massive
of subscribers here? Like what are we talking about in
terms of pool and where you have to retrain folks?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
All Right?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You get how many channels and you got to do
it a la carte and then watch them screw it up?
Or do you just say, okay, you on ESPN. It's
now fifteen dollars a month for you. Yeah, if you
stay with us, here or eighteen dollars or thirty dollars. Right,
we've seen some of these numbers thrown into the air
in the new age of the shakeups and conference realignments
(11:25):
and whatever else. So what's real, what's imagined? We'll see
because we've seen a lot of starts and stops on
the television side, except for the revenue is it keeps
running up like it's a damn marathon, a telethon for
you know, help Mike build bigger calves kind of things,
you know, that kind of thing. Otherwise it's just a
(11:46):
lot of numbers just thrown into the air right now.
But yeah, change it doth cometh soon when you do
this to folks on opening night on national televise games.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Look, and I'll tell you that we've talked about this
a little bit now. Could you can see the way
things are going in college football in all sports five
years because the NFL package is now in place through
twenty thirty three, they have a ten year a ten
year platform where we'll get a little bit of change somehow,
but still the games are gonna be on Fox, they're
gonna be on CBS. You're gonna get the vast majority
(12:18):
you can buy you're to be able to buy Sunday
ticket just like you just got to buy it from
a different provider. So NFL is not really going to
effect this because you're still gonna get it. But within
five years, I guarantee you this, we're gonna look back
at the time from like twenty twenty three backwards and say, man,
we had it really good. Because now if I want
(12:39):
to watch college football, there's four packages I have to buy.
I gotta buy the Big ten package if I want
Big ten games, or I gotta buy the the ACC package.
I want ACC, I gotta buy the Big T. I
gotta buy the Big twelve. I gotta buy the SEC packages.
Five thousand dollars a year. We're all four big time
college football packages. You have to buy with some kind
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of streaming service at least two or three NBA packages
because those rights are coming up in a year and
a half, and who knows how many baseball packages.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
They may get.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Maybe the first one to get to the point of, hey,
we'll have a la carte by team. We'll give you
the be able to do the package by team, and
then well, I want to watch the Mets, but I
want to see other big games. So I gotta buy
that package and that back. I mean, we're in five years,
we're gonna look back and say, if you're a sports fan,
you're gonna have between four and eight sports packer. Hey,
do you have Big ten?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
No, but Joe's got baked in. We go to Joe's
house to watch Michigan Michigan State at noon. Then Jerry
he's got SEC. Then we're gonna go watch Auburn Alabama
at five o'clock in his house. That's what it's gonna
be in the next time, greatest crawl of all time.
Oh my goodness, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Sit down, Nah.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
People people want convenience. Mike car you got you got appetites,
like a block party. Everything they want to next week.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
You got appetizers, And I've got to come up with
the chips and dips and everything else. I gotta come
up with be a nice uh smoked shoulder uh. And
we go from there. You know, I mean, look, we
could do this. I like, I like what you're thinking there.
It brings people. Package brings people back together.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
People.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
People are gonna people down harmon, people want to just
roll out of the people hate out there.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
For people I know, No, they want to stay at
home here. I don't want to go. Why why do
I want to go to Harmon's house.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
He's just gonna sit here and tell me about that
one Northwestern team from nineteen ninety seven that was so
good that no, no, no no, it was ninety four before
ninety four going into the end zone against Iowa. Okay,
all sorts of bells and whistles went off and points
shaving scandals have never been looked at the same. But
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that's what people want, and that that that we're we're
to look back and go. Man, I remember those days
when all the games were on and they were free
ish because you just bought cable. Right, I got cable,
I get all the games. When you come over my house,
I got I got the great TV. Right, you got
the great TV. So it's gonna be the people who
have the packages. Oh but his TV sucks. Yeah, but
he's got the package. Oh but that couch smells. I
don't want to go over it. Fine, I guess I'll
(15:02):
sit on a chair and sit on the edge of
the living room and watch that game. That's fine, That's
what it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
My gonna look back at these days and say, you know,
I always.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Say, you don't know when the good old days are.
The good old days. We're in them right now. You're
in them right now.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I'll remember the good old days weren't always good, and
tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Is that a song? Raise the great Billy Joel? I
thought there was a Toby Keith song.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Now I'm going outside to have an ice cool beer
in the shade.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Come on, we're keeping the faith.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
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and we are going to remember an absolute legend. Now
when I say that, sometimes like I know, we are
gonna remember an absolute legend who for a long time
did not like me.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
That's coming up, bat, I'm not yeah, you might have
carried that over.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
No, No, no, think you know what? Hey, you know
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Oh my god, I can't watch you tah on Florida
Spectrums dropped Disney. Watch it anyway. It's twenty four to three.
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You got a much closer game on Fox. Maybe you
took the under with Nebraska and Minnesota and you gotta
got a barn burner at seven to three.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Just be thankful you have that.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I like that they're using some I'd like to see
some replays and some of these formations and the man
in motion, because I think we're going into other football
leagues where you can run towards the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Before the snap.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
If I'm watching this correctly the way Nebraska's running for
Matt Ruhle right now. But hey, if you don't call it,
it didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And maybe he is changing the rules in college football teaching.
Joining us now on the hot line. Nobody better to
talk NFL and remember an absolute legend than longtime NFL insider.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
He is a Hall of Very Good voter.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
In fact, he used to be a Hall of Fame
voter until the Hall of Fame changed the Hall of
Very Good.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
But he's still a voter.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You can fall him on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.
That is, at Jason Cole sixty two. He's hitting refresh
on his computer every five seconds hoping that Kallen Stanford
get to the acc It is, Jason Cole.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Body? Wow, you had to go to Kallen Stanford, didn't shift?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I hit refresher. See if they joined? Hey, refresh again,
see if they joined.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Gott I hate you, God, I hate you? Why do
I Why do I subject myself to this show?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
But we're the only show we'll have you on?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Never mind, never mind, doctor chatter.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I love you too.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Oh yeah I did. Yeah, that's there we go.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Racket.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
So your producer, the guy who's subbing for Frostburg, referred
to you as Big Jason and Big Mike. Did you
guys require that of him?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Was that like if you do our show, you have
to refer to us this way? Is that what happened tonight?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
No, that's someone who wants a full time gig producer
right there, that's what that.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That's called initiatives. That is initiatives, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Kids seeing the right. Butteck, there we go, go for it.
So are you doing it? By the way, Smither, you're
doing a full dedication to Gil Brandton.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, I'm gonna you know, I'm final you want.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'm gonna tell you, Mike gil Brand's story, which I
know you've wanted for a long time.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
You're gil Brandt's story about how he yelled at you
about writing an irrelevant something.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I'll tell remembering Gil Brandt, I mean, a true legend
in the NFL, the architect of the Cowboys, dynasty of
the set and.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Look use Jason Smith.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
No, well no then no, then things got better in
later years. I'll tell things that better later years. But
I do want to say this, we don't use the
word architect for anything else except for Gil Brandt, the
architect of the seventies Cowboys team. Nobody says, not even
Mike Brady from the Brady Bunch, who was an architect.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
We talked about architect Mike Brady.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But Bill Greg gil Brandt was always the only time
we ever referred to anybody as the architect.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Gil Brandt was an architect. Architect.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Wow, Chuck Nole and Bill Nunn and uh who were
uh Costanza architects, Dick and Dick Hayle. Those guys were
the architects of the Steelers and the stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
No one says that though no one say it was
Gilbrandt architect of the seventies Cowboys architect architect.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
But everybody the architect of the cabot. If you're a
heck of a job.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Put all those guys in the Hall of Fame. You're
trying to get out, You put all those guys in.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
All those guys got.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
In, Okay, Well unfortunately, yeah, he did manage to help
get those guys into the Hall of Fame. That's the problem.
And I'm trying. I'm working really hard to get them out.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Okay, right now, one by one through, I.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Will say that despite your sort of shenanigans with gil
Brandt where he dared to criticize her work, you know,
and asked, what system do you use?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, let me I'd love to explain the story. Now,
let's explain. Let me explain the story. Now, Okay, I
know you know the story.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
People need to know the story. But I'm upholding the
legacy of Gil Brandt going what system you use?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, okay, player, let me tell Let me tell a story.
So when I was an NFL Network, part of my
gigs at NFL Network hosting shows on TV, I also
wrote for NFL dot com.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Now this is how.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
This is what passed for writing about college football at
NFL dot com. It was one of my managers said, Jason,
you watch a lot of college football, right, Yeah, I
think you can do a mock draft for us. I said,
how much in his first round? I said sure, because
we're gonna have a few other people doing want to
have like four or five people doing it. I said, okay, final.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
All about draft qualifications, right that you need to do
a mock draft.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I said, I'll do it. I'll do a mock draft.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Fine, I'll put it out there like there was no
and it was just basically doing a mock draft. So
so what I did was I did in the North
because I know all the teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
What do they need?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
What are the players that are being talked about is
going high in the first round that I have high
draft grades, And I'm okay, bar I like what I
heard here. Like, so I do a mock draft and
I do it out, you know, number one overall here,
number two here, that's right, and it goes up with
four or five other people Jet, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You know, because that's not actually going to happen, but
I'll try to make it happen.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, or the Jets picking every pick. This draft is terrible.
So it goes up and it's one of those things
that I did. Took me a long time to do.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
It's a better part of the day because I wanted
to make sure, okay, I don't want to make sure
I'm missing anybody I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It was a long time.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
A second, that's a perfect sports writer thing. It took
me a long time, like the better part of a
whole day.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, because you know what it was it was an
assignment they gave me for that day.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That was my work for that day.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
After hosting a TV show, I then went all day
and wrote a column on it. Right, So that was
my assignment for the day. So they asked me to
do it, so I did it. So about a week
and a half goes by. This is at the end
of the regular season, after the college football season's over.
We're at the Super Bowl and we're in the media
room on the very first day. So we had our
show meeting and now we have time going on until
(22:49):
we're gonna tape our show and or.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
We actually did we actually did it live the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And so I'm sitting there and I'm doing whatever I'm
doing for that day and Gil Brent walks up to
me and he goes, hey, are you Jason Smith?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And I go, yeah, Hi, you're Gil Brant. I shouldn't
had to go. This is pretty cool. He say, how
you doing? I said good.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
He goes, what system did you use to write your column?
And I said, I said, I'm sorry, what Because I
write like I wrote like four or five columns a week,
and I don't know a time because I wrote a
lot of fantasy too, and I said, I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
He goes the system you used to evaluate prospects for
your mock draft. I said, oh, I don't. I don't
know what you mean said, because you have a system,
like we all have systems when we evaluate prospects like
I used to do. And I said, oh, wow, he's
mad at me, and I said, I said, I don't.
I said, I I watched a lot of college football,
(23:38):
and I know what the teams in the NFL need,
and so I was I was trying to match up
with about where they would go in the draft.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Actually, instead of just being like honest and going there
was no sense time, it was assigning me that day
and I did it.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
He said that that's what I got to get to is.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I said, it's no, So I I wasn't. Do you
want me to explain how I did it? So I said,
that's a I went, I know what the team's need,
I know the players that are being talked about, first
round grades, all this.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So I wrote it. I kind of played matchmaker and
that that's how I did.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
He goes, but you don't have a system, and I'm like, no,
And now everybody around me is going, what the hell
is happening? Why is Gilbert Jason? Because he's going, you
don't have a system, and I go no. He goes, so,
how did you decide what players would go? Would go
to what team? And I said, I guess I thought
how teams decide how they would go with players?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
They wou players?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
They like, that's what I did. He goes, okay, but
you don't have a system, and I said no, and
he walked away.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
And I was like, oh yeah, but you never know
if he loved what you did and was just curious
as to how you came to those decisions.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
No, he just look he looked at it and said,
I need to know the genius that's going on in
this head as I could come up with this kind.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I got to tell Jared, and so I I.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
So after he left, you know, he walked away and
I said, okay, well, now now why do I have
to walk up to him?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
He's the guy. But I woke up and I go,
gil I just want to let you know. I said,
they asked me to write that. They asked me to
write the column, and so I wrote it. I said,
I was given an assignment that's what I do. I
write a lot of stuff for the for the website
alter and he goes.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes, it's not your fault.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So I'm like, okay, so that's it. And now years
that I did, I leave NFL Network. In years go
by and all of a sudden boom, Gil Brandt following
me on Twitter and he and I would go back
and forth a little bit, talk about things.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Quote tweet each other. I'm like, does he know that?
Does he listen to the radio and.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Go, oh hey, I like this guy not knowing that
I was the guy that was that do that did
the column for NFL, NFL dot com and NFL Network.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I don't know that you ever put that together.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But we had a great relationship after that, and it
turned out to have a have a happy ending for
him for.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
He was he was testing you, sir, Like when Jimmy
Johnson tested me by mfing me fourteen times in two minutes.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Sure, how was it? Tell you what?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Bill Brandt traded you much better than Jimmy treated me.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Let me, yeah, you get my house.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
People ask me A five is when when I do
something that goes wrong? Now, my friends or my or
my my family says to me, you don't have a system.
You didn't use a system for that, like that story.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Of course you do you mo the lawn? Do you
have a system? Do you have do you Chris criss Cross?
What are you trying to do when you mow that lawn?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Do you have a do you.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Have a system? When when when you try to fix
the plumbing, which you're going to not do, but when
you try, do you have do you put the tape
on on, you know, the plumbing tape on? Or do
you not? Do you just do you just go for it?
What do you do? So that's what we got to know.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
This is important system.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Gil Gil was just a gym. Gill is one of
the Gill was one we could spend hours talking about
Gil Brandt And I've shared my story on Twitter day.
I don't know if you guys saw it, but this
is such an all time great When he told me
how he went to Roger Stawback's house. The Stawback had
(27:00):
been deployed to Vietnam for you know, his Naval Academy
service time, right, and Gil came up with this great
idea about how to get Stawback out of going to
Vietnam right, and he's like, oh, this is gonna be great.
And he flies to Cincinnati to go meet with Stawbacks
(27:21):
parents and he's like, I'm gonna sell. This is gonna
be great. We'll get him to you know, we'll get
him out of danger most important thing because he's going
to be the Cowboys quarterback, and we'll get him planning
for us earlier. It's gonna be great. We got to
We'll get him out of that five year committe. It's
gonna be great. This is awesome. So he goes to
the Stawbacks house. He's sitting there talking to mister and
(27:42):
Missus Stawback, and he explains his plan. It gets all done,
and they looks right at the Stawbacks and goes, okay,
I just can't wait to hear their response. And as
soon as he stopped, Missus Sawback she kind of looked
like Margaret Thatcher with that yeah, that sort of poisoned
(28:06):
look right like, you know, she was sniffing it. There
was a turd right under her nose and she was
sniffing it. And because I felt like she's looking at
me as if I had just peed on her carpet.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
A Margaret Thatcher. That's pretty good. That's good.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I just want I love that story because in that
short little story, it wasn't more than about thirty seconds,
he told you understood so much about his own thinking, like,
how are we going to get around the service academies
number one? So he's like trying to figure that out
around I'm going to help the cowboys out.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
How we And it.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Told you all about the Sawback family and what they
thought of their dedication to service, and how more important
than this little football thing that you're coming to bother
us about. And you know, yeah, thank you, mister Branch.
What our son is in is in the Navy, and
he's going to be staying there, Okay, so go away.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It's good. He didn't have to have a system for
these service again.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Did Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
They asked him, do you have a system to get
him out of this? Do you have a system to
get it?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
He had a system. It was not well thought, classic
classic stuff. Gil Yeah, rest in peace, Like he could.
You could ask him about the walk up and ask
him about the nineteen sixty four drafts and it might
have been the one hundred and seventieth player taken in
(29:42):
that draft and he would give you just every bit
of information because not only did he introduce the use
of computers to you know, filing and you know, automating
information for the draft, but he was like a computer himself,
Like he had these rainman quality to him that he
could just requ he could recall anything about any player
(30:04):
at any time. It was as an amazing thinks.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Cole sixty two.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Jay cule on Buddy appreciated Big Jason, Big Mike him,
Patrick Patrick, go.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Patrick, how about the initiative?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Boys? Take it easy, buddy, We'll talk to you. You're
the best. I love that stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I saw that story on Twitter today, but that story
was just outstanding that.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
No, he's the best. I mean the storyline route today.
What do you think of my plan?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
No?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I was actually the girls were asking, hey, what my daughters, uh,
we're asking hey, what's on the show today? And I go, oh,
you know one of my favorite guys passed away, and
I was like, oh, no ninety one. Yeah, he had
a fantastic Ronnie's one of the guys that really helped
build the league. I'm like but this guy remembered everything.
You wouldn't see him for two years. He'd come and ask,
you know, hey, is your kid still playing soccer? It's like,
(31:01):
what you know last year and or two years ago,
we saw you at this practice. Remember what happened when
that scrum happened over there? I'm like, why the hell
do you remember all this stuff? He just you know,
but you felt special in the moment thinking it was
just you, and then you hear all these other stories
and he just like, hell did his brain work? Did
he have the Dewey decimal system going on up in there? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Knew he knew everything. He knew absolutely everything. He really
was fun, even though he didn't like me for that column.
You know, he was a lot of fun. Like I said,
we followed each other on Twitter and all the quote
tweet and talk and you know, so we kind of
had a good ending there, I get. I guarantee you
he didn't think it was the same person. I guarantee
you he didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
He listened.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
He liked what I said on the radio better than
what I wrote those years ago in that column.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I tell you probably were yelling at me, going you shut.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
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Slash match time to check out what's going on in
(32:07):
the wide world of sports. And if you have Spectrum
cable you haven't been able to watch Utah and Florida.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
It's okay. Steve Disager will tell you why right now.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Steve that Yeah, you know, the problem is those fans
they don't have a cyst system.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Had a system, you'll be able to watch the games
at night for people that are unaware.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Disney pulled not only ESPN, but ABC FX other channels
from Charter Spectrum service just as college football is beginning tonight.
For most teams, We've got games to update, including the
game on ESPN for some people. Fourteenth right to Utah
twenty four to three over the Florida Gators with about
eleven minutes to go.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
There's a game on Fox TV. Nebraska leads ten to
three at Minnesota early fourth quarter. The Nebraska touchdown pass
early third came on a trick play. Also in progress.
The late game at Arizona State late first quarter, as
the Sun Devils had seven to nothing over Southern Utah
also in progress. It's now Missouri twenty eight to nine
over South Dakota, which has just scored early fourth quarter.
(33:10):
Earlier victories for Wake Forest, UCF, Western Michigan and Georgia State.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Former Cowboys executive Gil Brandt passed away at the age
of ninety one. He became a Hall of Famer in
twenty nineteen. NFL Kickoff Weekend starts a week from tonight,
September seventh, Detroit at Kansas City. The Fox TV opening
games on Sunday, September tenth include San Francisco at Pittsburgh
and Green Bay at Chicago. The Vikings gave tight end TJ.
(33:38):
Howkinson a four year extension. He was acquired from Detroit
last season, then had sixty receptions for Minnesota in ten games.
Ramswide receiver Cooper Cup is day to day after a
setback with his strained hamstring. The Patriots claimed quarterback Matt
corral Off waivers from Carolina, and Carolina had drafted him
in the third round A year ago. The Dolphins gave
(33:58):
fullback alec Ingle a three year extension. Miami running back
Jeff Wilson was placed on IR with a hand injury.
Forty nine Ers tight end George Kittle is missing practice
this week with a groin injury. To Major League Baseball
just four games, but one of those is the start
of a four game series at Dodger Stadium, LA, hosting
the Atlanta Braves. It's one to one in the top
(34:18):
of the second right now, Braves do have bases loaded
one out against Dodger starter Lance Lynn, who was truly
putrid for most of the season on the mound and
now four and oh in August after being traded to
the Dodgers. So is eras under six now for the season.
At San Diego, it's Giant six nothing over the Padres
top of the fourth San Diego. With a record of
(34:40):
sixty two and seventy two no runs, no hits, three
errors so far, Giants hold the final NL wildcard spot
half game over Idle Arizona. Miami got to the five
hundred mark with a win at Washington tonight six to one.
The Marlins Marcus sixty seven and sixty seven Detroit in
ten innings beat the Yankees four to three. At the
(35:00):
US Open American Madison Keys won or second round match.
Juli Art's officially retired from soccer. She played the last
three US World Cup teams.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
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coming up next another day as we get closer to
the beginning of the NFL season and a big time
NFL injury that had people screaming all day today.
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Nebraska and Minnesota. If you like close games and you
like the under you'll love this one on Fox. Right now,
Cornhuskers leading in ten to three in the fourth quarter.
Meanwhile the game half of the country is not seeing
(36:55):
because Spectrum decides beginning a kickoff, we're gonna say our
with Disney, we're dropping it. You're not gonna get to
watch ESPN television, so you're not gonna get to see
Florida and Utah. Well, that's going the way of Utah
pretty easy right now, twenty four to eleven with the
utes in the lead in control with about nine minutes
ago in the fourth quarter. We'll have more on these
(37:17):
games coming up in a few minutes. But today, Mike,
it was like I could hear the collective scream when
it was revealed that Cooper Cup is day to day,
potentially at best day to day in his return for
my hamstring injury. I could hear people around Coper Cup.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
What am I gonna do? The cover Cup, coverer Cup,
Coper Cup. I took it in fantasy way early. Am
I gonna do? What am I gonna do? Is too
too at well available? Can I go get him? And
what am I gonna do? Cooper Cup?
Speaker 8 (37:49):
Mat?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And you know, I could just see the panic and
hear the panic look Cooper Cup until he got hurt.
This guy's the best receiver in the NFL. This guy
won the Triple Crown. You know a year and a
half ago of catches and yards and touchdowns. He was
on his way to another great year last year before
he got hurt. And the thing is is you want
(38:10):
to take this wider. We talked about teams last night.
They're gonna be really tough watches this year. And if
Cooper Cup and Look, anybody who's trying to come back
from a hamstring injury right now, you can just cross
them off as being being healthy all season. It never
has hamstring injuries, calf injuries, or or any groin injury.
You're never gonna be one hundred percent all season because
(38:32):
you're gonna you're gonna wait till you feel good, you're
gonna come back, you're gonna aggravate it. You're gonna be
in and out of the lineup. That's just how it
goes to these kinds of injuries. It's not like, oh,
I got a wrist injury, I'm good, I'm back. I
broke my finger, I had surgery, I'm back. Like Jackson
Smith the JIGBA right, No, this is gonna dog him
all season long.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
And I'll tell you what. Cooper Cup is out of
the lineup. I know.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
We talked about the Arizona Cardinals in their tankathon for
the number one overall picking Caleb Williams. You watch the
Rams give the Cardinals will run for their money. In
those two games that we get to see them play
against other this year, you watch and see who wants
to win that game least, because that's the type of
year that could go on for the Rams, it can
be historically awful. And if they're missing the one guy
(39:14):
they have in their team, there's any kind of excitement
on the offensive side of the ball. If he's out,
he's gonna miss the parts of the season because this injury.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Forget it, Arizona and LA that battle for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Aaron Donald doesn't have any consecutive game streak or something
that would be on the line, does he, Because we'll
keep an eye on that. No, they were already in
strange territory. I mean a solid tight end in Higbee. Look,
my guy from Northwestern is one of their starting wide receivers.
Man Skynick out there and a good possession guy.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
That's fine.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Van Jefferson you mentioned to two at well all of
that and Cam Akers, who was in the doghouse then
wasn't remember Cup had surgery in the offseason. I almost
felt bad like I spoke it into existing and so
because I had to do one of those uh hey,
can you fill this out for us over at fantasypros
dot com, and I wrote a big dia tribe of
(40:07):
how Cooper Cup was going to be one of the
hugest busts of the year, being a top five wide
receiver consensus guy right now, coming into the heart of
draft season. I'm like, this is just bad business for
anybody getting involved there. And then all of a sudden
that came down. I'm like, boy, I'm going to hell.
And then I lit a candle and I went for
a walk and I uh pray, prayed for the repose
(40:30):
of my soul.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Well, that's good, that's good. I will do so as
well for you.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I appreciate that. I really think me writing that diet
tribe probably did it.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, did you have a system? Did you have a
system for me?
Speaker 4 (40:41):
I did?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
I did system? You kind of laid it out.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Bad ankle, bad hamstring, bad news.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
It's a theme of tonight. It's about having a system.
But I'm telling you it could be that bad a
year for the Rams. Watch coming up next, the biggest
story in college football tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
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It is a big night of college football and you
probably tuned in to say, hey, you know I want
to watch we have We'll get to Nebraska. There's lots
of millennials in gen z ors watching Nebraska going I
don't understand. Trust me, there's a reason why Nebraska's on
national TV. It used to be so great, but you know,
Utah and Florida big Game of the night. Okay, you know,
(01:15):
I get it all good. Yeah, people wanted to do it.
That's the game they want to see. If you have
direct TV, well.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You're saying, why are we starting with this? If you have.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Charter Communications, if you have Spectrum providing your cable, yes,
you understand, and you are nodding your head. You're going,
this is why the two highest trending topics in the
world are YouTube TV and Spectrum. Spectrum apparently has had
a big war going on with ESPN and Disney.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And just before the start of the.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Game tonight on ESPN between Utah and Florida, the college
football Game of the Night, Spectrum decided to let everybody know, hey, uh,
we're dropping Disney owned channels from our platform. And there's
a whole big scroll on TV like it's the beginning
with Star Wars movie. It is a time of unrest
in the galaxy.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The Empire.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
There you go, there's a bit, and they should have
done it just like that and had to scroll looking
like it was going with the music. How they feel that,
in fairness they can't keep going forward and ESPN and
Disney Disney specifically we say ESPN because look, we're talking
about sports. We're talking about the game that's affecting everything.
Disney's asks are unrealistic. They look forward to solving this soon,
(02:32):
but right now they cannot carry any of the programming.
So there's no ESPN and there's like no free Form,
there's no other channels, and people tune in to watch
Utah and Florida and are not getting the game. Then
instead get that big page that tells you this is
what's going on. And Spectrum and Disney are at odds
and it's wait a minute, wow. First you would say, well,
(02:54):
well played here, Spectrum, look at you do it. We're
gonna show you right now. Here's the whole thing, Mike Carmen.
And this is a really this I mean, I love
this story. This is business of sports.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Guys. Oh yeah, this is where I live.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
This is me trying to cut first. This is us,
We're trying to cut in first. Cable is a dying entity.
More people are cutting cap We've been We've been talked
about this for so long, right, you know you want
to hear a tire topic on the radio or TV
on cord cutting is affecting the industry.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Click, I've heard about this but this is what's going on.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Spectrum has decided to say, hey, we can't carry Disney
related programming right now because of our dispute.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
We're hoping to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
This is falls under the definition of overplaying your hand,
because when it comes down to it, people are going
to want. The average viewer is not going to throw
their arms around Spectrum and say, yes, I want Spectrum
and everything they have to offer.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I love their programming.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I love that every time I turned on Spectrum, my
TV defaults to the Spectrum News Network and I gotta
put it back on the TV I had it on.
I love Spectrum, but it's like they're like my extended family,
my Spectrum. No, people want what Disney has to offer,
whether it is sports, whether it is live sports, which
is a huge deal, or whether it is free forms
you can watch the Harry Potter movies whenever they're on,
(04:15):
or whatever else there is more. People are going to
be much more sympathetic or much more understanding that my
bread is buttered on this stuff I want. Well, I
don't care about my cable. If this isn't gonna happen,
I gonna watch college football this weekend. No one's gonna
write letters the Spectrum saying yes, I'm with you, let
me know what you need. I'll fight you in this war. No,
they're gonna say, I'm gonna find a way to get
out of this so i can get live sports on
(04:37):
my TV this weekend, and I'm gonna go buy YouTube
I'm gonna subscribe to YouTube TV or whatever else it's
going to be. They're gonna try to bundle stuff now
and say screw it, I'm not gonna mess around anymore,
and they're gonna go and you are going to see
people leaving cable and pushing more people away to streaming
programming and streaming entities.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
This is Spectrum.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Overplaying their hand because do they really think people It's
gonna be just just It's like we see downtown all
the time. There's all these the strike going on right
now in Hollywood with with no new programming, and everybody
wants more money. The writers want more money, and everybody
wants to get more compensated because they deserve it. That's
not gonna happen for Spectrum. No one's gonna be standing
on the court of going, hey, help Spectrum fight the
(05:18):
evil at bar that is Disney because You don't need
to watch Oklahoma Nebraska on Saturday. You don't need to
watch Florida State and Miami. You want to watch whatever
Spectrum has. Look, this is not going to go well
now that I'm a big business guy, But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't think Spectrum it's gonna go well for them.
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Now I think you know what's funny is you get
into the headiness of all of this. And we've watched
packaging and bundling for many, many years. Right, it used
to be the hey, would you like the extra sports package,
you know, for out of town stuff? Back when that
was the thing, right when you had your regional networks,
and that was it, Like, would you like to see
what happens in the football in the South? Check yes,
(05:57):
for an extra eight dollars a month. Now we're at
the point where it's all right, well, I bundle over here,
I got this over here. Maybe you already have Disney
Plus plus Hulu right for the extra couple of bucks
a month, And you've decided, well, I've nickeled in dime
to this point because you know, one kid likes this show.
(06:17):
This kid likes this show. I like having all twenty
seasons of law and order at my disposal in case
I need to tap that fix anytime. So you know,
we all have hard things and creature comforts in our
viewing habits. Now, looking at a little bit of research
going back to last year, when you talk about these
carriage rights, you might have a station that's you know,
(06:39):
a couple of pennies a month per subscriber, right, nothing big.
Maybe it's old shows that have a little bit of
run right, kind of the me TV kind of world
where it's it's there, all right, it's out there, it's
not public domain. Someone still gets paid by it, but
it's the idea that you know, it's not the high
demand stuff. So you get at a bit of a song.
(07:01):
And then you have the ESPN, which the estimates were
as high as almost eight dollars a subscriber on.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Your cable bill was ESPN.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Now, I don't know about you, I know an awful
lot of people that will never flip to ESPN, not
for political things, not because of wokeness or whatever word
you want. They just don't give a damn about sports,
So they're not going there, or the Deuce or any
of the other family of ESPN channels.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So for them, that's eight dollars.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, I mean that's a couple of cups of coffee
somewhere right local diner in any.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Town, USA. So they're a little salty.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So yeah, it becomes the all right, what's the next repackaging,
repurposing now for them. It also backfired because this game
sucks twenty four to three. To quote our guy ballad
from last night. You know, it's not like you're getting
a barnburner going into the final seconds.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It sucks. It sucks for you.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It sucks for you watching, It sucks for the players playing,
It sucks with the announcers announcing, it sucks for everybody.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
No, and like maybe maybe Florida suddenly stages a comeback
there they're getting ready to mount a big play on
a fourth and three, moving the ball here mid third quarter,
but it's twenty four to three.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You're moved on. You're rowing the boat with PJ Fleck.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, who finds himself down after one of the most
improbable plays.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I start a second half, you'll ever see which we'll
get to. We'll get to Nebraska, Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
We'll row the well, DJ, We'll row the boat on
that game in a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Nicely done.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
But yeah, when it comes down to this, it's the
I don't care about the cable company, all right, it's
the I don't care the brand of Like you get
to toilet paper and maybe maybe you've got something is
a little softer, you like the extra you know, two
ply whatever. But in the end, aren't you going cost
hunting when you're going down the toilet paper and paper
(08:51):
towel aisle?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
You know?
Speaker 4 (08:52):
No, No, But I'm saying I don't know as many people,
and I'm certainly not that guy where I'm brand dependent
when it comes to that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh No.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Likewise, whether it's Spectrum, Charter or whatever the hell else
it is, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
As long as I got it's got all. Yeah, it's
gotta be good enough.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Like like, yeah, I'm not gonna buy the toilet paper
that's just gonna break when when like like when the
tiniest oh shure, Like that's like that's like watching a
college football game in regular television, like, well, look at
the streaks that are.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
On the TV.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
No, if I go to Coe, you really have to
go to the look at the streaks.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
At the I kind of did I kind of did, Like.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That was just kind of filthy, and you just made
my brain hurt.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You made that leap.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
But like, if I go to Costco to get to
get toilet paper, Okay, there's Charman, there's extra soft, and
there's extra sturdy, and there's Kirkland brand.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Okay, they're all fine. I can get anyone.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now if one is twenty four ninety nine and one
is nineteen ninety nine and one is twenty two ninety.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Nine, hey, okay, I'll get the nineteen ninety nine one,
but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Gonna go ay over here, it's three ninety nine. You
get roll out, maybe you will. And it's just and
it's just toilet paper that disintegrates when you pull it off.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Throw no. As long as it's okay, I use it.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And that's the whole thing with cable is that as
long as hey, you know, all this whole war of
going to all these different streaming services, people that have
stuck with cable and look, and I still have Cable
because I like live sports. I like getting all the
different channels. But people say, as long as I'm getting
what I need, I don't really need to go crazy.
Like I still like the product I'm getting. But this
is just another chip in the stone of if you're
(10:22):
telling me I can't get ESPN, right, I mean that's
I mean, forget what you say about ESPN five. ESPN
has tons of live sports. Everybody watches, right, we all watch.
It's a really big bleeping deal. If you're telling me
I can't get ESPN on my television, Am I gonna
stick with that cable company?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Or am I going to something else in the next day?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I have, Well, but then I want to watch Syracuse
and Colgates Saturday and it's on acc X and ESPN
plus plus plus plus, So I gotta find a way
to get that for Saturday because I want to watch
that game. But that's the thing, right for cable companies,
it now becomes the all right, what's our critical massive
of subscribers here? Like what are we talking about in
terms of pool and where you have to retrain folks?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
All Right?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You get how many channels and you got to do
it a la carte and then watch them screw it up?
Or do you just say, okay, you on ESPN. It's
now fifteen dollars a month for you. Yeah, if you
stay with us, here or eighteen dollars or thirty dollars. Right,
we've seen some of these numbers thrown into the air
in the new age of the shakeups and conference realignments
(11:25):
and whatever else. So what's real, what's imagined? We'll see
because we've seen a lot of starts and stops on
the television side, except for the revenue is it keeps
running up like it's a damn marathon, a telethon for
you know, help Mike build bigger calves kind of things,
you know, that kind of thing. Otherwise it's just a
(11:46):
lot of numbers just thrown into the air right now.
But yeah, change it doth cometh soon when you do
this to folks on opening night on national televise games.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Look, and I'll tell you that we've talked about this
a little bit now. Could you can see the way
things are going in college football in all sports five
years because the NFL package is now in place through
twenty thirty three, they have a ten year a ten
year platform where we'll get a little bit of change somehow,
but still the games are gonna be on Fox, they're
gonna be on CBS. You're gonna get the vast majority
(12:18):
you can buy you're to be able to buy Sunday
ticket just like you just got to buy it from
a different provider. So NFL is not really going to
effect this because you're still gonna get it. But within
five years, I guarantee you this, we're gonna look back
at the time from like twenty twenty three backwards and say, man,
we had it really good. Because now if I want
(12:39):
to watch college football, there's four packages I have to buy.
I gotta buy the Big ten package if I want
Big ten games, or I gotta buy the the ACC package.
I want ACC, I gotta buy the Big T. I
gotta buy the Big twelve. I gotta buy the SEC packages.
Five thousand dollars a year. We're all four big time
college football packages. You have to buy with some kind
(13:00):
of streaming service at least two or three NBA packages
because those rights are coming up in a year and
a half, and who knows how many baseball packages.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
They may get.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Maybe the first one to get to the point of, hey,
we'll have a la carte by team. We'll give you
the be able to do the package by team, and
then well, I want to watch the Mets, but I
want to see other big games. So I gotta buy
that package and that back. I mean, we're in five years,
we're gonna look back and say, if you're a sports fan,
you're gonna have between four and eight sports packer. Hey,
do you have Big ten?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
No, but Joe's got baked in. We go to Joe's
house to watch Michigan Michigan State at noon. Then Jerry
he's got SEC. Then we're gonna go watch Auburn Alabama
at five o'clock in his house. That's what it's gonna
be in the next time, greatest crawl of all time.
Oh my goodness, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Sit down, Nah.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
People people want convenience. Mike car you got you got appetites,
like a block party. Everything they want to next week.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
You got appetizers, And I've got to come up with
the chips and dips and everything else. I gotta come
up with be a nice uh smoked shoulder uh. And
we go from there. You know, I mean, look, we
could do this. I like, I like what you're thinking there.
It brings people. Package brings people back together.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
People.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
People are gonna people down harmon, people want to just
roll out of the people hate out there.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
For people I know, No, they want to stay at
home here. I don't want to go. Why why do
I want to go to Harmon's house.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
He's just gonna sit here and tell me about that
one Northwestern team from nineteen ninety seven that was so
good that no, no, no no, it was ninety four before
ninety four going into the end zone against Iowa. Okay,
all sorts of bells and whistles went off and points
shaving scandals have never been looked at the same. But
(14:42):
that's what people want, and that that that we're we're
to look back and go. Man, I remember those days
when all the games were on and they were free
ish because you just bought cable. Right, I got cable,
I get all the games. When you come over my house,
I got I got the great TV. Right, you got
the great TV. So it's gonna be the people who
have the packages. Oh but his TV sucks. Yeah, but
he's got the package. Oh but that couch smells. I
don't want to go over it. Fine, I guess I'll
(15:02):
sit on a chair and sit on the edge of
the living room and watch that game. That's fine, That's
what it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
My gonna look back at these days and say, you know,
I always.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Say, you don't know when the good old days are.
The good old days. We're in them right now. You're
in them right now.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I'll remember the good old days weren't always good, and
tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Is that a song? Raise the great Billy Joel? I
thought there was a Toby Keith song.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Now I'm going outside to have an ice cool beer
in the shade.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Come on, we're keeping the faith.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
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(15:49):
and we are going to remember an absolute legend. Now
when I say that, sometimes like I know, we are
gonna remember an absolute legend who for a long time
did not like me.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
That's coming up, bat, I'm not yeah, you might have
carried that over.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
No, No, no, think you know what? Hey, you know
what we'll get into that coming up next.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
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Oh my god, I can't watch you tah on Florida
Spectrums dropped Disney. Watch it anyway. It's twenty four to three.
(16:47):
You got a much closer game on Fox. Maybe you
took the under with Nebraska and Minnesota and you gotta
got a barn burner at seven to three.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Just be thankful you have that.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I like that they're using some I'd like to see
some replays and some of these formations and the man
in motion, because I think we're going into other football
leagues where you can run towards the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Before the snap.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
If I'm watching this correctly the way Nebraska's running for
Matt Ruhle right now. But hey, if you don't call it,
it didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And maybe he is changing the rules in college football teaching.
Joining us now on the hot line. Nobody better to
talk NFL and remember an absolute legend than longtime NFL insider.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
He is a Hall of Very Good voter.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
In fact, he used to be a Hall of Fame
voter until the Hall of Fame changed the Hall of
Very Good.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
But he's still a voter.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You can fall him on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.
That is, at Jason Cole sixty two. He's hitting refresh
on his computer every five seconds hoping that Kallen Stanford
get to the acc It is, Jason Cole.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Body? Wow, you had to go to Kallen Stanford, didn't shift?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I hit refresher. See if they joined? Hey, refresh again,
see if they joined.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Gott I hate you, God, I hate you? Why do
I Why do I subject myself to this show?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
But we're the only show we'll have you on?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Never mind, never mind, doctor chatter.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I love you too.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Oh yeah I did. Yeah, that's there we go.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Racket.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
So your producer, the guy who's subbing for Frostburg, referred
to you as Big Jason and Big Mike. Did you
guys require that of him?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Was that like if you do our show, you have
to refer to us this way? Is that what happened tonight?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
No, that's someone who wants a full time gig producer
right there, that's what that.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That's called initiatives. That is initiatives, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Kids seeing the right. Butteck, there we go, go for it.
So are you doing it? By the way, Smither, you're
doing a full dedication to Gil Brandton.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, I'm gonna you know, I'm final you want.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'm gonna tell you, Mike gil Brand's story, which I
know you've wanted for a long time.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
You're gil Brandt's story about how he yelled at you
about writing an irrelevant something.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I'll tell remembering Gil Brandt, I mean, a true legend
in the NFL, the architect of the Cowboys, dynasty of
the set and.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Look use Jason Smith.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
No, well no then no, then things got better in
later years. I'll tell things that better later years. But
I do want to say this, we don't use the
word architect for anything else except for Gil Brandt, the
architect of the seventies Cowboys team. Nobody says, not even
Mike Brady from the Brady Bunch, who was an architect.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
We talked about architect Mike Brady.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But Bill Greg gil Brandt was always the only time
we ever referred to anybody as the architect.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Gil Brandt was an architect. Architect.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Wow, Chuck Nole and Bill Nunn and uh who were
uh Costanza architects, Dick and Dick Hayle. Those guys were
the architects of the Steelers and the stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
No one says that though no one say it was
Gilbrandt architect of the seventies Cowboys architect architect.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
But everybody the architect of the cabot. If you're a
heck of a job.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Put all those guys in the Hall of Fame. You're
trying to get out, You put all those guys in.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
All those guys got.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
In, Okay, Well unfortunately, yeah, he did manage to help
get those guys into the Hall of Fame. That's the problem.
And I'm trying. I'm working really hard to get them out.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Okay, right now, one by one through, I.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Will say that despite your sort of shenanigans with gil
Brandt where he dared to criticize her work, you know,
and asked, what system do you use?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, let me I'd love to explain the story. Now,
let's explain. Let me explain the story. Now, Okay, I
know you know the story.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
People need to know the story. But I'm upholding the
legacy of Gil Brandt going what system you use?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, okay, player, let me tell Let me tell a story.
So when I was an NFL Network, part of my
gigs at NFL Network hosting shows on TV, I also
wrote for NFL dot com.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Now this is how.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
This is what passed for writing about college football at
NFL dot com. It was one of my managers said, Jason,
you watch a lot of college football, right, Yeah, I
think you can do a mock draft for us. I said,
how much in his first round? I said sure, because
we're gonna have a few other people doing want to
have like four or five people doing it. I said, okay, final.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
All about draft qualifications, right that you need to do
a mock draft.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I said, I'll do it. I'll do a mock draft.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Fine, I'll put it out there like there was no
and it was just basically doing a mock draft. So
so what I did was I did in the North
because I know all the teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
What do they need?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
What are the players that are being talked about is
going high in the first round that I have high
draft grades, And I'm okay, bar I like what I
heard here. Like, so I do a mock draft and
I do it out, you know, number one overall here,
number two here, that's right, and it goes up with
four or five other people Jet, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You know, because that's not actually going to happen, but
I'll try to make it happen.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, or the Jets picking every pick. This draft is terrible.
So it goes up and it's one of those things
that I did. Took me a long time to do.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
It's a better part of the day because I wanted
to make sure, okay, I don't want to make sure
I'm missing anybody I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It was a long time.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
A second, that's a perfect sports writer thing. It took
me a long time, like the better part of a
whole day.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, because you know what it was it was an
assignment they gave me for that day.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That was my work for that day.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
After hosting a TV show, I then went all day
and wrote a column on it. Right, So that was
my assignment for the day. So they asked me to
do it, so I did it. So about a week
and a half goes by. This is at the end
of the regular season, after the college football season's over.
We're at the Super Bowl and we're in the media
room on the very first day. So we had our
show meeting and now we have time going on until
(22:49):
we're gonna tape our show and or.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
We actually did we actually did it live the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And so I'm sitting there and I'm doing whatever I'm
doing for that day and Gil Brent walks up to
me and he goes, hey, are you Jason Smith?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And I go, yeah, Hi, you're Gil Brant. I shouldn't
had to go. This is pretty cool. He say, how
you doing? I said good.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
He goes, what system did you use to write your column?
And I said, I said, I'm sorry, what Because I
write like I wrote like four or five columns a week,
and I don't know a time because I wrote a
lot of fantasy too, and I said, I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
He goes the system you used to evaluate prospects for
your mock draft. I said, oh, I don't. I don't
know what you mean said, because you have a system,
like we all have systems when we evaluate prospects like
I used to do. And I said, oh, wow, he's
mad at me, and I said, I said, I don't.
I said, I I watched a lot of college football,
(23:38):
and I know what the teams in the NFL need,
and so I was I was trying to match up
with about where they would go in the draft.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Actually, instead of just being like honest and going there
was no sense time, it was assigning me that day
and I did it.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
He said that that's what I got to get to is.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I said, it's no, So I I wasn't. Do you
want me to explain how I did it? So I said,
that's a I went, I know what the team's need,
I know the players that are being talked about, first
round grades, all this.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So I wrote it. I kind of played matchmaker and
that that's how I did.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
He goes, but you don't have a system, and I'm like, no,
And now everybody around me is going, what the hell
is happening? Why is Gilbert Jason? Because he's going, you
don't have a system, and I go no. He goes, so,
how did you decide what players would go? Would go
to what team? And I said, I guess I thought
how teams decide how they would go with players?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
They wou players?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
They like, that's what I did. He goes, okay, but
you don't have a system, and I said no, and
he walked away.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
And I was like, oh yeah, but you never know
if he loved what you did and was just curious
as to how you came to those decisions.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
No, he just look he looked at it and said,
I need to know the genius that's going on in
this head as I could come up with this kind.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I got to tell Jared, and so I I.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
So after he left, you know, he walked away and
I said, okay, well, now now why do I have
to walk up to him?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
He's the guy. But I woke up and I go,
gil I just want to let you know. I said,
they asked me to write that. They asked me to
write the column, and so I wrote it. I said,
I was given an assignment that's what I do. I
write a lot of stuff for the for the website
alter and he goes.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes, it's not your fault.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So I'm like, okay, so that's it. And now years
that I did, I leave NFL Network. In years go
by and all of a sudden boom, Gil Brandt following
me on Twitter and he and I would go back
and forth a little bit, talk about things.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Quote tweet each other. I'm like, does he know that?
Does he listen to the radio and.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Go, oh hey, I like this guy not knowing that
I was the guy that was that do that did
the column for NFL, NFL dot com and NFL Network.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I don't know that you ever put that together.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But we had a great relationship after that, and it
turned out to have a have a happy ending for
him for.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
He was he was testing you, sir, Like when Jimmy
Johnson tested me by mfing me fourteen times in two minutes.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Sure, how was it? Tell you what?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Bill Brandt traded you much better than Jimmy treated me.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Let me, yeah, you get my house.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
People ask me A five is when when I do
something that goes wrong? Now, my friends or my or
my my family says to me, you don't have a system.
You didn't use a system for that, like that story.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Of course you do you mo the lawn? Do you
have a system? Do you have do you Chris criss Cross?
What are you trying to do when you mow that lawn?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Do you have a do you.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Have a system? When when when you try to fix
the plumbing, which you're going to not do, but when
you try, do you have do you put the tape
on on, you know, the plumbing tape on? Or do
you not? Do you just do you just go for it?
What do you do? So that's what we got to know.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
This is important system.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Gil Gil was just a gym. Gill is one of
the Gill was one we could spend hours talking about
Gil Brandt And I've shared my story on Twitter day.
I don't know if you guys saw it, but this
is such an all time great When he told me
how he went to Roger Stawback's house. The Stawback had
(27:00):
been deployed to Vietnam for you know, his Naval Academy
service time, right, and Gil came up with this great
idea about how to get Stawback out of going to
Vietnam right, and he's like, oh, this is gonna be great.
And he flies to Cincinnati to go meet with Stawbacks
(27:21):
parents and he's like, I'm gonna sell. This is gonna
be great. We'll get him to you know, we'll get
him out of danger most important thing because he's going
to be the Cowboys quarterback, and we'll get him planning
for us earlier. It's gonna be great. We got to
We'll get him out of that five year committe. It's
gonna be great. This is awesome. So he goes to
the Stawbacks house. He's sitting there talking to mister and
(27:42):
Missus Stawback, and he explains his plan. It gets all done,
and they looks right at the Stawbacks and goes, okay,
I just can't wait to hear their response. And as
soon as he stopped, Missus Sawback she kind of looked
like Margaret Thatcher with that yeah, that sort of poisoned
(28:06):
look right like, you know, she was sniffing it. There
was a turd right under her nose and she was
sniffing it. And because I felt like she's looking at
me as if I had just peed on her carpet.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
A Margaret Thatcher. That's pretty good. That's good.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I just want I love that story because in that
short little story, it wasn't more than about thirty seconds,
he told you understood so much about his own thinking, like,
how are we going to get around the service academies
number one? So he's like trying to figure that out
around I'm going to help the cowboys out.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
How we And it.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Told you all about the Sawback family and what they
thought of their dedication to service, and how more important
than this little football thing that you're coming to bother
us about. And you know, yeah, thank you, mister Branch.
What our son is in is in the Navy, and
he's going to be staying there, Okay, so go away.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It's good. He didn't have to have a system for
these service again.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Did Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
They asked him, do you have a system to get
him out of this? Do you have a system to
get it?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
He had a system. It was not well thought, classic
classic stuff. Gil Yeah, rest in peace, Like he could.
You could ask him about the walk up and ask
him about the nineteen sixty four drafts and it might
have been the one hundred and seventieth player taken in
(29:42):
that draft and he would give you just every bit
of information because not only did he introduce the use
of computers to you know, filing and you know, automating
information for the draft, but he was like a computer himself,
Like he had these rainman quality to him that he
could just requ he could recall anything about any player
(30:04):
at any time. It was as an amazing thinks.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Cole sixty two.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Jay cule on Buddy appreciated Big Jason, Big Mike him,
Patrick Patrick, go.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Patrick, how about the initiative?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Boys? Take it easy, buddy, We'll talk to you. You're
the best. I love that stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I saw that story on Twitter today, but that story
was just outstanding that.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
No, he's the best. I mean the storyline route today.
What do you think of my plan?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
No?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I was actually the girls were asking, hey, what my daughters, uh,
we're asking hey, what's on the show today? And I go, oh,
you know one of my favorite guys passed away, and
I was like, oh, no ninety one. Yeah, he had
a fantastic Ronnie's one of the guys that really helped
build the league. I'm like but this guy remembered everything.
You wouldn't see him for two years. He'd come and ask,
you know, hey, is your kid still playing soccer? It's like,
(31:01):
what you know last year and or two years ago,
we saw you at this practice. Remember what happened when
that scrum happened over there? I'm like, why the hell
do you remember all this stuff? He just you know,
but you felt special in the moment thinking it was
just you, and then you hear all these other stories
and he just like, hell did his brain work? Did
he have the Dewey decimal system going on up in there? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Knew he knew everything. He knew absolutely everything. He really
was fun, even though he didn't like me for that column.
You know, he was a lot of fun. Like I said,
we followed each other on Twitter and all the quote
tweet and talk and you know, so we kind of
had a good ending there, I get. I guarantee you
he didn't think it was the same person. I guarantee
you he didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
He listened.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
He liked what I said on the radio better than
what I wrote those years ago in that column.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I tell you probably were yelling at me, going you shut.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
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Slash match time to check out what's going on in
(32:07):
the wide world of sports. And if you have Spectrum
cable you haven't been able to watch Utah and Florida.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
It's okay. Steve Disager will tell you why right now.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Steve that Yeah, you know, the problem is those fans
they don't have a cyst system.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Had a system, you'll be able to watch the games
at night for people that are unaware.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Disney pulled not only ESPN, but ABC FX other channels
from Charter Spectrum service just as college football is beginning tonight.
For most teams, We've got games to update, including the
game on ESPN for some people. Fourteenth right to Utah
twenty four to three over the Florida Gators with about
eleven minutes to go.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
There's a game on Fox TV. Nebraska leads ten to
three at Minnesota early fourth quarter. The Nebraska touchdown pass
early third came on a trick play. Also in progress.
The late game at Arizona State late first quarter, as
the Sun Devils had seven to nothing over Southern Utah
also in progress. It's now Missouri twenty eight to nine
over South Dakota, which has just scored early fourth quarter.
(33:10):
Earlier victories for Wake Forest, UCF, Western Michigan and Georgia State.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Former Cowboys executive Gil Brandt passed away at the age
of ninety one. He became a Hall of Famer in
twenty nineteen. NFL Kickoff Weekend starts a week from tonight,
September seventh, Detroit at Kansas City. The Fox TV opening
games on Sunday, September tenth include San Francisco at Pittsburgh
and Green Bay at Chicago. The Vikings gave tight end TJ.
(33:38):
Howkinson a four year extension. He was acquired from Detroit
last season, then had sixty receptions for Minnesota in ten games.
Ramswide receiver Cooper Cup is day to day after a
setback with his strained hamstring. The Patriots claimed quarterback Matt
corral Off waivers from Carolina, and Carolina had drafted him
in the third round A year ago. The Dolphins gave
(33:58):
fullback alec Ingle a three year extension. Miami running back
Jeff Wilson was placed on IR with a hand injury.
Forty nine Ers tight end George Kittle is missing practice
this week with a groin injury. To Major League Baseball
just four games, but one of those is the start
of a four game series at Dodger Stadium, LA, hosting
the Atlanta Braves. It's one to one in the top
(34:18):
of the second right now, Braves do have bases loaded
one out against Dodger starter Lance Lynn, who was truly
putrid for most of the season on the mound and
now four and oh in August after being traded to
the Dodgers. So is eras under six now for the season.
At San Diego, it's Giant six nothing over the Padres
top of the fourth San Diego. With a record of
(34:40):
sixty two and seventy two no runs, no hits, three
errors so far, Giants hold the final NL wildcard spot
half game over Idle Arizona. Miami got to the five
hundred mark with a win at Washington tonight six to one.
The Marlins Marcus sixty seven and sixty seven Detroit in
ten innings beat the Yankees four to three. At the
(35:00):
US Open American Madison Keys won or second round match.
Juli Art's officially retired from soccer. She played the last
three US World Cup teams.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
coming up next another day as we get closer to
the beginning of the NFL season and a big time
NFL injury that had people screaming all day today.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
That's next, right here, Jason and Mike, This is Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Nebraska and Minnesota. If you like close games and you
like the under you'll love this one on Fox. Right now,
Cornhuskers leading in ten to three in the fourth quarter.
Meanwhile the game half of the country is not seeing
(36:55):
because Spectrum decides beginning a kickoff, we're gonna say our
with Disney, we're dropping it. You're not gonna get to
watch ESPN television, so you're not gonna get to see
Florida and Utah. Well, that's going the way of Utah
pretty easy right now, twenty four to eleven with the
utes in the lead in control with about nine minutes
ago in the fourth quarter. We'll have more on these
(37:17):
games coming up in a few minutes. But today, Mike,
it was like I could hear the collective scream when
it was revealed that Cooper Cup is day to day,
potentially at best day to day in his return for
my hamstring injury. I could hear people around Coper Cup.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
What am I gonna do? The cover Cup, coverer Cup,
Coper Cup. I took it in fantasy way early. Am
I gonna do? What am I gonna do? Is too
too at well available? Can I go get him? And
what am I gonna do? Cooper Cup?
Speaker 8 (37:49):
Mat?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And you know, I could just see the panic and
hear the panic look Cooper Cup until he got hurt.
This guy's the best receiver in the NFL. This guy
won the Triple Crown. You know a year and a
half ago of catches and yards and touchdowns. He was
on his way to another great year last year before
he got hurt. And the thing is is you want
(38:10):
to take this wider. We talked about teams last night.
They're gonna be really tough watches this year. And if
Cooper Cup and Look, anybody who's trying to come back
from a hamstring injury right now, you can just cross
them off as being being healthy all season. It never
has hamstring injuries, calf injuries, or or any groin injury.
You're never gonna be one hundred percent all season because
(38:32):
you're gonna you're gonna wait till you feel good, you're
gonna come back, you're gonna aggravate it. You're gonna be
in and out of the lineup. That's just how it
goes to these kinds of injuries. It's not like, oh,
I got a wrist injury, I'm good, I'm back. I
broke my finger, I had surgery, I'm back. Like Jackson
Smith the JIGBA right, No, this is gonna dog him
all season long.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
And I'll tell you what. Cooper Cup is out of
the lineup. I know.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
We talked about the Arizona Cardinals in their tankathon for
the number one overall picking Caleb Williams. You watch the
Rams give the Cardinals will run for their money. In
those two games that we get to see them play
against other this year, you watch and see who wants
to win that game least, because that's the type of
year that could go on for the Rams, it can
be historically awful. And if they're missing the one guy
(39:14):
they have in their team, there's any kind of excitement
on the offensive side of the ball. If he's out,
he's gonna miss the parts of the season because this injury.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Forget it, Arizona and LA that battle for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Aaron Donald doesn't have any consecutive game streak or something
that would be on the line, does he, Because we'll
keep an eye on that. No, they were already in
strange territory. I mean a solid tight end in Higbee. Look,
my guy from Northwestern is one of their starting wide receivers.
Man Skynick out there and a good possession guy.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
That's fine.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Van Jefferson you mentioned to two at well all of
that and Cam Akers, who was in the doghouse then
wasn't remember Cup had surgery in the offseason. I almost
felt bad like I spoke it into existing and so
because I had to do one of those uh hey,
can you fill this out for us over at fantasypros
dot com, and I wrote a big dia tribe of
(40:07):
how Cooper Cup was going to be one of the
hugest busts of the year, being a top five wide
receiver consensus guy right now, coming into the heart of
draft season. I'm like, this is just bad business for
anybody getting involved there. And then all of a sudden
that came down. I'm like, boy, I'm going to hell.
And then I lit a candle and I went for
a walk and I uh pray, prayed for the repose
(40:30):
of my soul.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Well, that's good, that's good. I will do so as
well for you.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I appreciate that. I really think me writing that diet
tribe probably did it.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, did you have a system? Did you have a
system for me?
Speaker 4 (40:41):
I did?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
I did system? You kind of laid it out.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Bad ankle, bad hamstring, bad news.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
It's a theme of tonight. It's about having a system.
But I'm telling you it could be that bad a
year for the Rams. Watch coming up next, the biggest
story in college football tonight.
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