September 8, 2023 • 33 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon give you the dark side of the Kansas City Chiefs. Lions head coach Dan Campbell on the win: "I didn't learn anything. I got verification of what I already knew." And Chiefs head coach Andy Reid explains his decision not to play Travis Kelce.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
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the Chiefs. Not only did I tell you the Lions
are going to the Super Bowl, Jets, Lions. I told
you last night, Lions are gonna win Thursday night. What
You're crazy? I'll take the five points, but I won't
need him because the Lions are gonna win this game.
The Chiefs are without two really big important members of
this team, and the Lions offensive line is going to
dominate this game. This is what I've done, Mike Carmon,
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let me tell you what I've done. You think all
these different things I've done, I may never be ever
as right again as I was about this game.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, I mean, I think you're giving yourself a little
bit a little too much or the Lions too much
credit for would actually transmits it's okay, hey, oh sorry,
my Lions and Kadarius Tony came through for the Lions
to win this game. Greatest screenshot you'll ever see. This
was seven points for the Lions and the ball is
literally in Tony's hands.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
If if I divorced Pam tomorrow, Pam lifelong Detroit area resident.
The whole family is in the Detroit area, Downriver and
Windod they're there, They're up in Traverse City, they're up
in the Upper Peninsula. If I divorced Pam tomorrow, they
would all stay with me, like I would be the
one they would stay with. They would I would say, yes, sorry,
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Chason picked the Lions for the Super Bowl, and he
picked them to win Opening Night and the one what
have you done forst You would say, but but I
send Christmas presents and I'd do it. No, they would
say he picked the Lions the greatest night of our lives.
We're staying with not that it's going to happen well,
but you also acquiesced and went there for vacation in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Man, I'm like a Detroit insider.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Man, I'm like, I'm like like, like, I can they
like in Sons of Anarchy, they can patch me over
and I can be a Detroit guy.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Now, well, I really think in the end with this one,
it's the if it really goes badly, you don't lose anything, right,
your prediction would have just been the next year of
sucking was nails.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But my point is if they didn't gone terribly okay,
look it's it's Game one and the offense didn't exactly click.
I like the lean towards the end, don't get me wrong.
We talked about it with Jay Glazer a bit last
hour when you can start running the ball with David
Monggomery and go tick tick tick tick tick. Because Jamier
Gibbs he got an opportunity. You know what he did,
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had a big flashy playing why did he end it?
He ran out of bus Montgomery get back in there,
and he found the end zone. You get the W
twenty one twenty. The fact that John Paul and Barrosi's
way under the total pick that he gave out on air,
and that was even before Kelsey was ruled out, that
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he threw that up there really scares the hell out
of me. But this game not always aesthetically pleasing, bit
sloppy on both ends. But it's the first of two
seventy two and you got this one right. And I
know people are gonna say, I'm tired of it, and
then look, you don't have to do it for multiple
hours times.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
No, I'm tired of the lives the Lions. I told
you they were gonna win opening night against the defending
Super Bowl champion, Like I said on the road, on
the road, and I told you that going to the
Super Bowl Jet, You'll think Jet's line.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Super Bowl is happening now.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Jets line, super Bowl game, Jets, Jets, Jets Jets again.
Yea line again, Pam and Jason will Uh, well, she's
she's just going to torment you for the rest of
your life, uh, or vice versa, however that works.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Uh. But yes, you would get all of the family
for your prediction, because you've also been the good guy.
You've come to Detroit, You've gone down eight Mile, You've
broadcast from there, You've gone there for holidays while you
live in southern California. Ponder that America and globally. But
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a game that look, the inches are all around you.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
We joke about the Paccinos speech all the time, the
number of drop balls, the near misses, the lack of
a go to player. Right, he hit a lot of receivers,
running backs, tight ends, wide receivers. You named it out
of the backfield. Would you not say, say you have
a distress property on your roster right now?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I e.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
A wide receiver, maybe a little longer in the tooth,
but who wants a new contract, wants to be made
whole and feel loved. I don't know it like a
Mike Evans.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Sure sure, wouldn't you be the GM dialing up Kansas
City right now, texted going, Hey, I got a guy.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Look, I got a guy. He can do wonders for
you. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And here's here's the big thing about this. Because you
hit on something that you want to see is inevitable.
But because of Mahomes, you thought he could stave it off. Right,
We talked two minutes ago about how Travis Kelsey is
the engine that makes this team go. You see it
after tonight, Right, he can't just put anybody out there
and expect the Chiefs to wit. Now it's the first
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game of the season. I understand these are the defending
Super Bowl champions. You have won two of the last three.
I mean, you have the best quarterback in the NFL.
Maybe he's beholding a little bit more to Travis Kelson
you expect. Maybe Kelsey is the more indispensable guy. Right,
all these questions out.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
There, but the us and is also if Travis Kelcey
say he'd gotten hurt a week prior, you're telling me
they couldn't scheme something up, perhaps a little bit better,
because defensively they sure as hell did. He figuring that
Chris Jones wasn't shown up.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
They had eleven guys, they tried all eleven guys.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But the point is in your in your bag of tricks, right,
you're Felix the cat. You gotta Ronco set it and
forget it. Giant pile of stuff that's eighty seven, baby.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You can.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You can scheme it up all you want, but the
Lions are legit. And that's what people don't understand. It's
like they still think, oh, it's the lines a lot
the Lions are legit.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'm not. But you can scheme up.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No no, but you can scheme up. We're talking about
tonight and going forward. You can scheme up all you want.
But the Chiefs weren't the better team, and the Chiefs
may be at that point. This is the real dark
side for the Chiefs. Not not not that mahomes a Chief,
not that this is your the super Bowl champion opening
up at home.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But what I'm saying is if you go and analyze
this game, it's that, hey, Detroit dominated that.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Troy was a better team. De Troy was a better
team tonight. They were the best. They ran, they won point,
they won the game. So how do they not be
the better team.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But you're making it sound like this was some monumental.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Detroit went on the road against the defending sure world
champion in a primetime game and.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
This triumvirate, Wait, you tell me this is like coming
out himself. Detroit wasn't the better team tonight. Detroit was
a better tonight. They got him. My point that so
they weren't the better team. They won the game, but
they were not the better team.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Just the way you're making it sounds like they were
the eighty five Bears against the Patriots a super.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
How often do teams go into the defending Super Bowl
champions home on opening night and win? Not very Actually,
it's it's not as rare as you I think. Let
me go find the hasn't happened with homes Era hasn't
happened with homes Well, that's him. M he's got a
he's got a unicorn. The Lions want to they were
the better team. They won tonight. Great, the Lion's better
team tonight. Okay, they were the better team people want
to take. And my point in the beginning was the
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lot people want to take the Lions for granted, Oh,
it's just lie. The Lions are legit. The Lions are
a legit team. I picked them for the Super Bowl
for a reason. They're legit. The big thing for the
the moment you want to get to, I forget about
last Lions and everything else. Okay, that's fine. You're just
upset you didn't pick the Lions.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's all. You're upset. I picked the lie. You didn't
pick the line. You should have picked the Lions. You
had a chance. You could have picked the Lions and
the Jets. You could have.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Now the Lion Lions did move right, We know the
odds because the NFC being the potential cesspool that it is,
the Jason had the uh cahonas to Bett, Well, that's true.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
They went from they went from plus forty five thousand
and now they're plus sixteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
They were that the line goes down.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
No, no, no, forty five thousand.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, they're plus one hundred and fifty to one. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, that's what I got the Jets, that's what I
got of that because I bet the Lions back. I
bet the Lions back in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
What do you bi?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, I bet back in eighty four, and it's coming
true for me now I did in thirty years. But
but look, here's the dark side for the for the
Chiefs is that they suck. You want to think that
no matter what, they're gonna turn over wide receiver corps
to wide receiver corps and it's always going to work.
Right now, you saw no Travis Kelcey. This was laid
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bare tonight this wide receiver corps not have a lot
of separation. Mahomes had a lot of pay You saw
a lot of passes where the guys do there was
no daylight to get the ball in. They were pad.
The only place to throw the football was you had.
They had to leap to try to get past the
defensive back. Yes, Kadarius Tony dropping passes that were right
in his lap that.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Hurt him, but not always.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And we think it was gonna happen all the time
because the Chiefs had done it and they win the
Super Bowl last year with it. Hey, Kelsey's gonna catch
twelve passes a game. The other guys are gonna catch
a few here and there. No Travis Kelcey. And you
saw this wide receiving crew tonight. How good is this
really gonna be enough? You saw tonight going is this
really gonna you know how long Travis Kelsey's gonna be out?
You know if Kelsey does come back, they're not gonna
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be able to just lock in on Kelsey and say
we don't need to worry about the guys out. Why
be more because these wide receivers, all of them were
bad tonight. They couldn't get open there, they're just not
stars and to think that, yeah, you always think the
Chiefs are gonna be able to do it. But eventually,
when you keep running through all these receivers and changing
over and think, oh, this guy's gonna be a star.
Look at sky Moore. All we've heard this guy's going
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to be a superstar. Sky Moore's a star. He's the
next great superstar for the Chiefs. Got to catch past
to night, didn't catch past tonight.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, but you get it. Get into those situations where
people just decide to get on a hype machine about
a guy, right because someone's got to be next. So
if it's MVS or a former first round pick and
Tony coming over from the Giants whatever else, it limited excitement.
It's you know, where's the unknown? Sky Moore was the unknown,
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right you saw him in spots last year, and now
it's the all right, he gets to be the breakout
guy with the next evolution of this receiving corps and
it's one game, all right. It's hard to hard to
get over excided, but look, the show is tonight. We
have to react to it, and obviously don't dismiss a
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the win by the Lions. You took care of business.
But for the Chiefs to go full doom and gloom
off it, I can't go there necessarily yet, either go
back to the board. Now, I don't trust Matt Naggy,
but I do trust Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes the
offensive line you're going up against the Look the Lions.
We knew coming in we're gonna be a pretty good team.
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I picked the win. No, but they get the w great,
but we thought they'd have a pass rush in the NFC,
in that division, right in the NFC North. The conventional
thought process throughout our great think take of sports talk radio,
sports television is that the Lions are gonna win the division. Right,
(11:53):
That's not that's not a hot take. I'm not shocking
anybody there. Super Bowl now, that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But to go through the division, because nobody likes Captain
Kirk and the and the Vikings, figuring there's somewhere between
the one loss marathon of the Zimmery the final year,
and whatever happened last year that they find some happy
medium there. The Bears, they can't be any worse than
they were a year ago. But does that necessarily translate
to wins maybe maybe not. And then the Packers there's
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the hate watching of Jordan Love good God, you want
to talk about drink watch parties. If you were to
pull media members, they're waiting for him with you know,
pitchforks and torches. So it's been all about the Lions
moving forward, which is funny because everybody hated Jared Golf
Yeah this whole time too.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So it's like, all right, well you got him.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It's like he's got a string right now of almost
four hundred pass attempts without an interception. For as much
as much maligned as he is. Tonight, you got twenty
eight carries on the ground between Montgomery and Gibbs. That's
where this gets that much more interesting. Wide receivers will
be fun. I'm on Ross Saint Brown is a guy
that's probably still gonna catch a hundred balls. But if
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you can start sledgehammering on the ground in shortened games, yeah,
we start talking about the Lions. But for the Chiefs,
I'm not as stressed because because Canarious, Tony's gonna be
on some other.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Team when he dropping balls for somebody else, he'll.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Be dropping dropping as Oh you know, you gotta have
a fall guy. You're Week one MVP player of the game.
Canarius Tony. I mean his war for tonight is probably
negative twelve and a half. Oh at least. Yeah, they're
gonna hang his jersey at Ford Field them instead of
a banner, it's just a giant flapping.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
They take down the what fifty seven the year they
won with the land they take that down to put
Canarius Tony's jersey.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
But I mean, like you can break this game down
a million different ways, it still comes back to Cadarius Tony.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
If he kept really, if he catches any one of
those passes.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
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Speaker 2 (14:08):
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Speaker 1 (14:09):
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Alex Tischer.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
What band is this? This would be the White Stripes. Okay,
very good and very good, very good. I want to
make sure you knew all there good.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I also did Stevie Wonda before We all the World
by Accidents, so.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well that okay, there's like a thousand people that singing
we are the word wasn't Michael Jackson sing that, yes,
he's in there.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
There were seventy people.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Madonna was in it. Everybody was in it except for Prince.
Prince was not in it. Well he's dead right, well,
but he was alive when they did it. Soon the
rumor was, I heard that he wanted to do a
guitar solo and they said they didn't have one form.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So said, I'm not going to do it. I want
a guitar solo.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Nope, A story out there for a long time.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
You go out there.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So Alex Tischer, we are having a night where you
are celebrating artists from Detroit, and I dig that you did.
Now you could have played Hotel Yorba, which is part
of my favorite white stripe song Popular. But actually drive
by Hotel Yorba when when we're driving when I go
back to Michigan, Oh hey, there is Hotel Yorbra one
two three four.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Take the elevator at the Hotel Yorba. I'll be glad
to see you later. So are they brother and sister?
Man and wife? Uh? Yes, both? Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
WHOA Okay, Well come on now, well the.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Judge, well his Detroit.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They were married, but they taught, but people thought they
were brother and sister, so they kept that going for
a while. I'm smart, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then
and then Jack Jack White.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Did do Do, don't do Do?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Get a lot of money off that.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
We're gonna get Ty Shirt's gonna give us the most
obscure from now on, the most obscure Detroit artists. Yeah,
all you've done is mock his musical choices for months.
As long as I get Sponge Molly, No No, No, Holly
by sponge Are you ready good Molly Bye spongey aie Captain,
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I can't here.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You just don't play.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Any kid rock, okay, Patrick, If I got some Seager,
I won't care about a little roll me away. No
kid rock, no kid rock, No no no, unless you
play Picture because that's kid rock and Cheryl Crow and I.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Like that song.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
But if I get if I get Molly's, Sponge Molly
might be one of my top three songs from the nineties.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You're asking people to bring you Molly.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Like Molly, not to song well, because sixteen Can Club,
We're going to No No No Molly, and I nearly
lost you by Screaming Trees Get five. All my favorite songs,
although not from Detroit. The screaming trees out date yourself there, Smith.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But whenever you can get a band in that at
different points included the great Land again.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Try one from this century. Ty Shirt doesn't know that,
he has no idea. I'm always confused. Sponge. The band
is Sponge, the song is Molly. Really, Yes, I'd rather
be Molly singing Sponge.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, it's a it's a better song the other way around,
you sure, yeah, because not many words rhyme with sponge plunge.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Okay, that's one. I only had one ready. That's the
one where they're live from Bikini Bottom.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That's a very.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And then he points to the crowd, so they all
saying that's actually happened before. He doesn't rock and roll
call back.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Now, the SpongeBob musical is quite good from the seen
it of Bikini Bottom.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
There it is Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Mike Carbon
live from the Tireck dot Com studio. Is gonna hear
from Dan Campbell right now, Lions head coach. Following the
Lions victorious final over the Chiefs twenty one to twenty
opening night of the NFL, Happy we made it, We
all made it. The Chiefs aren't happy. Everybody else is happy.
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Lions are going to the super Bowl, like I told
you last night, Lions are gonna win the game.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Like I told you last night. Lion line lines my life.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
But we got something big on Dan Campbell. But it's
here a couple of minutes of him first as he's
holding his lunchbox and is he holding that big bikini
bottom lunch boxes? He answered questions from the media followed
the Lions victory.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
That's why we played with three phases, so you know,
if one at any given time struggling a little bit,
the other two will bell them mount. And then that
happened today and uh, all the units stepped up when
when we needed them most. And I'm proud of those guys,
proud of the staff. You know, I thought our defense
really showed up today. And and what's encouraging is in
all three phases, we got so much to clean up.
(18:30):
You know that will only be better from but this
was step one. This is game one. So I'm proud
of them when you ended that.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Game with your keeping steams from the big steps and
then ks mind drop a game numbers down, grows down.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean that's something we talk about is closing
games out. You know, we we with our offensive line,
uh and and what we have offensively, we need to
be able to do that and something that you know,
we worked a lot on situational football. But yeah, everybody
knows the strength of our offense and it's that old line.
But but defensively before that, man, I just thought they
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showed up. You know, they showed up in a big way.
We talked at halftime about cleaning up some of our
communication errors and then and we needed to take away
and we needed to be much better on third down.
Well we did that. We got to take away to
the house and we were oh and seven on third
downs in the second half, and then you close it
out on that last drive. They got three timeouts and
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you get them in a fourth and forever. But I
was proud of the way those guys played, you know,
and it was it was gonna take every one of them,
and it was going to take a lot of discipline
in the in the front seven, in the back end,
and and boy they did that.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So how was just learning about this team when you
go through the process every day. Listen to a breathe
into the microphone. We'll explaining for the question, what do
you learn about this time?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I didn't learn anything. I got verification on what I
already knew. And this is a resilient team. It already
was a resilient team, and we added pieces to that
resilient team. So we're built to handle some stuff and
and we did that today against a very good opponent.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The Chiefs are who we thought they were. Who we
thought they were.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
There's Dan Campbell, so happy. Look, there's lots of ways
to be a successful head coach. And I don't know
what kind of strategist Dan Campbell is. I don't know
what kind.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
We watched it in game your second guess, Yeah, hey, right?
I mean when the Cubs won the World Series, you
and I were on air, what do we do? Questioned
everything Joe Madden did. Yes, when the Dodgers won the
World Series a couple of years ago, what do we do?
We questioned everything Dave Roberts did related to his bullpen.
They won that. Hey, Dan Campbell, you had a couple
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of decisions that you make, going ooh, I don't know
you won.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
There's a misconception to what people and think about what
great coaching is. When you say a great coach, every
fan defaults the same thing. This guy had a great system,
he had a systems. He had a great system. He
had a great system. He was able to out X
and O your team with what he was able to do.
(21:16):
And that was Bill Parcells for the longest time, no
matter what, he was able to be the guy that
the big quote about him was always he could take
his players and beat your team. He could take your
players and beat his team. Rather, that was a big thing,
and that it defaults to, guys had a great system,
Guy's got a great mind, Guy's able to do it.
Bill Belichick has been the guy for the last twenty
some odd years that we think of that when he's
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always going to outscheme you, and that is that is
a way to be a great coach. But sometimes coaching
is different. With Deon Sanders, is Deon a great play caller? No,
the guy the guy's riding around on a golf cart
all the different stations at practice and shouting encouragement.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
What he's got to say.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Deon strengths are in recruiting and getting the guys to believe,
in fostering a culture. That's what he that's his big
strength as a head coach. The same thing for Dan Campbell,
and you know, Jay Glazer talked about it a little
bit with us earlier in the show. Dan Campbell's someone
who has created a culture. You can see everything that
the Lions players have said about him about each other,
whether it's Jared Goff or anybody, players that played there
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last year and are gone, like Jamal Williams, whoever it is,
they all said the same thing. We love playing for him,
we love playing for each other. That's a really difficult
thing to try to impart on your team. It's the
same thing as Hey, I want to put in a
winning culture, winning for him. I want the guys to
love each other and play for each other. Well, sometimes
that's easier said than done, because you have fifty different
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personalities in that room that you want to try to
get on the same page. But everything you have seen
from Dan Campbell to all the players there, they also
the same thing. Coach is great. We love coach. We
want to make him proud. He talks about his players.
I'm making him proud. We saw it with Danny Hurley, right,
What was the big thing we heard about Danny Hurley
when Yukon won this year? He just loves his guys, right.
He doesn't do anything crazy. It's not about a got
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the grease pencil and I'm able to out outmaneuver you.
But he loves his guys and gets them to play
at a high level. And that's what Dan Campbell is,
the culture and the belief that he is built in
there for each other. You heard him allude to it
at the end right there by saying, Hey, I just
got validation tonight. That's being a great coach too. But
people don't see it that way. They don't see this, Oh,
he's the guy there and he's yeah. No, that's part
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of being a coach because you could have the most
talented guys in the world. If you can't get him
to go out there to want to give everything up
they can to try to win a game.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It doesn't matter how good you are well.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
But it always goes back to, I mean, let's grab
another sport in let's grab the world of the NBA.
People dismiss what Phil Jackson did. Tell me how many
other coaches could get all those egos with the Bulls,
with the Lakers and get those guys to go play
and just put it all aside. And what it's all about.
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I mean, especially you watch the years of Scottie Pippen
then and now come on in for the time until
that round and ended in the second three p But.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Now he's selling a lot of bourbon.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
He's bitter, salty, but just the idea of like you
even got him to buy in, like Dennis Rowdman, huge wildcard,
both places. Phil Jackson got him to buy in all
of those things. So it takes a lot of of
the personality and finding guys and working and having continuity
with your front office as well of this is the
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type of player we're looking to bring in. This is
the kind of team we're looking to build. Does Jared
goff next necessarily fit the in terms of the aesthetics
of what you would think of Dan Campbell quarterback is No,
not necessarily. At one point, he was walking off the
field after they tapped down that fourth down when they
went for it, and he was walking off and in
my head, I'm sitting there going he's singing to himself,
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city stars are Shot.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I don't think people sing that song themselves as much
as you think that, No, but they should. That's like you.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
But he looks like Ryan Gosling is is the point.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I'm just ken anywhere else side be it.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That was pretty good too, especially when he's starting to
wear like the wrestling gear as he's singing it.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
But it's it's just.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
The idea that, you know, you go back to the
fiery world of Ditka and what he and Buddy Ryan
were doing that would work. Frostburg set us a thing
right where you're gonna have the Bobblehead Hall of Fame.
They're doing the chair throwing, Bobby Knight commemorating Boba. It's
a beauty, right, it looks great. It really does look good.
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But he said, well, you know, how does that work?
And well it can. Right, there's got to be a
marriage of a lot of it. But now it's also
the the game has changed, players are I mean, you're
looking at fifty three individual corporations and trying to manage
that and everybody's needs kind of like everything the PA
fails to do when they go to the negotiating table
(25:56):
with Roger Goodell. In each of these businesses, you've got
to figure out how you're going to reach your guys
and come up with some sort of cohesive nature. And
that's the thing with Dan Campbell. He is who he is. Right.
We've talked about Sean Payton a lot the last couple
of weeks, some of the quotes. I'd like that he
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would just keep that all in house, but hey, it's
good fodder for us. But that's who he is. Don't
apologize for it. Lean into it, strategist. Yeah, there's some
things that are gonna get left on the field, and
sometimes it's better to be lucky than good and having
a guy like Kadarius tonas Tony leave a bunch of
balls on the field for you to go get. But
you know what, you make the plays that are there
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out for you and down the stretch. When it came
time to say, hey, big boys, go get it and
get me that lean, that offensive line took care of business.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (26:54):
Don't ask why the Lions won, they just did d D.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
D D D d D.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Here's why it's called Molly Alex ty shirt. To celebrate
the Lions. When tonight, all the music from Detroit area artists.
Although we may have to play Karma chamellion later because
it turns forty today.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
How about that forty Karma.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Chamelion forty forty the song the song Karma Chameleon forty.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Years old about a amellion named Karma in theory? Yes, yeah,
they turned forty forty. Yes, I thoughtkamellions are like twelve
years old most they're.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Not the man, No, I don't they live long? Don't,
like Liz, don't those other kinds of lizards like kimodo
dragons live to be like one hundred and ten.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Thing? It depends if they're plant based or bug base.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Do we know?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Don't they tell you, hey, don't adopt one of those
because they're gonna outlive you, right, don't Don't they say
that about like I know they say that about parrots.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
How old I got.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
About follow that advice you shouldn't have kids? No, No,
it's like someone who's like sixty getting a young parrot.
Now that parrot's gonna live to be eighty years old,
you're gonna have to give it to somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Oh, okay, who deserves my parrot? Talk about sitting down
and making out a will?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Why Jason, you know, who wasn't around forty years ago. Okay,
wait a Minutuh oh all right, I have my guess
as to what you're gonna say, but go ahead, our listeners.
Oh wow, I gotta explained to millennials what sponge is.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I was gonna say a Lions win.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
I know sponge from Seinfeld. It's what a lane uses. No, yes, different, yes,
different sponge, different sponge, yes, different.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
She was a hoarder.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Tonight we watched the Lions win opening night in the NFL,
defeating the Chiefs twenty one to twenty, and the Lions
defense was really good. The Chief's offense was not missing.
Travis Kelcey proved to be as big a deal as
we told you it was going to be coming into
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this game.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Why didn't he play?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
We heard reports that he was questionable, He was going
to work out and potentially play tonight. We knew a
couple hours before the game Kelsey was not going to play.
Here is Chiefs head coach Andy Reid honest thought process
with not playing Travis Kelcey just.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
It just wasn't It wasn't feeling right. So I wasn't
gonna put him out there with that. And he was
honest with me. You know, we talked, so just not
enough time there.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
How big a factor do you think that was?
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Yeah? And I wouldn't have no excuses at all. We've
got guys that can play right.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
How big you was?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Did you watch the game? Kadarius Tony had eight passes
bounce off his hands. We couldn't do anything. What do
you mean? How big his performance? What are you talking
about his performance? I'm kind of question like that.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You have to ask me about his performance. It's such
a loud question.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Fifty three guys still suited up, all men in red
uniforms together as brothers as one.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
How watched you with Travis Kelson? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
No, come on, dude, seriously, did you wave to Chris
Jones at any point during the game? How awkward must
that have been? He's watching from a from a suite.
That's awkward.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I mean, you want to talk about a guy flexing, Look,
he's flexing. But I'm telling you I'm okay missing a
million dollars a week. We all should aspire to such issues.
What's my opportunity cost? I could play football and earn
a million dollars, or I can hold out and eventually
get well, maybe a bit more, But that money ain't
coming back.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
The defense wasn't the problem today. No, Obviously, we watched
the offense really struggle. And look, we're going into knowing
Travis Kelsey's gonna be out. We said, is Mahome still
gonna be the same guy? And one thing that was
accelerated tonight, all right now, are the Chiefs gonna be
fine Kelsey comes back? They did it with a bunch
of jag wide receivers last year. But you see what's
(30:37):
where it's at right now. And maybe Kelsey's dinged up,
he's hurt to begin the season. The process has been
accelerated in let's add something by the deadline. You mentioned
Mike Evans, who wants a new deal. That could happen
because the Bucks are gonna have a terrible year. You're
talking about some some teams with some talented players on it,
and the Chiefs are gonna be the first team at
the head of that line to say, let's go get somebody,
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because they're not gonna let a year of Patrick Mahomes
slip away and say, well just in work. No, they're
gonna try to reload on the fly. And what you
saw tonight accelerated that process because nobody was any good.
I mean, forget about Kadarius Tony and all the drops yet,
which we'll get to that, trust me, but just take
that out. Nobody was able to get any kind of separation.
There was nobody Mahmes to get the ball to. He
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threw the ball to eleven different targets tonight. Now, yes,
he does like to spread the ball around, but eleven
and nobody could get anything going. He had the lowest
passer rating for his career in the second half of
the game tonight. What they have right now on offense
when Travis Kelsey's not there, is not enough and they're
gonna be trust me, that's the first team to say, yup,
get ready watching the teams with wide receivers, they're gonna
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make a move to get one of them by the deadline.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, I mean the curiosity. Also the offensive line, and
we talked a lot about the Lions and what they
bring defensively up front. They're one of your better units.
I mean we said that for weeks going in and
not just you know a year, Hey, I'm picking them
for the Super Bowl, just straight analysis and knowing coming
in the Chiefs offensive line was gonna have a tall
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task and you don't have necessarily a great running back.
But check go's good, right, it's I think it's kind
of the the brock Purty effective because he was mister irrelevant.
Now he's a superstar because he was became a star.
Sure right, same thing with Pacheco. Seventh round guy, well
look what he Look what he did. I mean, he's
a beast. But Clyde Edwards Hilaire getting some touches. You
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don't have a breakout guy there. I would have thought
McKinnon would have been a bigger weapon in this game
with Kelsey not involved, uh and not able to play,
to give the offensive line a little bit of help. Instead,
you're spreading the ball around and when it's all said
and done, I mean it's canari is Tony's face? Is
(32:50):
it like that's the tail of the tape for this game?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Tiring his jersey at Ford Field for tonight's win. He
was there, MVP.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
But if you can go get a Ligneman, if you
could go get Evans or one of these many wide
receivers that are allegedly disgruntled and.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
At it exit, how about a Fresca exit swollen dome
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Coming up next, something insane about the Chiefs wide receivers
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the Chiefs. Not only did I tell you the Lions
are going to the Super Bowl, Jets, Lions. I told
you last night, Lions are gonna win Thursday night. What
You're crazy? I'll take the five points, but I won't
need him because the Lions are gonna win this game.
The Chiefs are without two really big important members of
this team, and the Lions offensive line is going to
dominate this game. This is what I've done, Mike Carmon,
(01:12):
let me tell you what I've done. You think all
these different things I've done, I may never be ever
as right again as I was about this game.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, I mean, I think you're giving yourself a little
bit a little too much or the Lions too much
credit for would actually transmits it's okay, hey, oh sorry,
my Lions and Kadarius Tony came through for the Lions
to win this game. Greatest screenshot you'll ever see. This
was seven points for the Lions and the ball is
literally in Tony's hands.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
If if I divorced Pam tomorrow, Pam lifelong Detroit area resident.
The whole family is in the Detroit area, Downriver and
Windod they're there, They're up in Traverse City, they're up
in the Upper Peninsula. If I divorced Pam tomorrow, they
would all stay with me, like I would be the
one they would stay with. They would I would say, yes, sorry,
(02:01):
Chason picked the Lions for the Super Bowl, and he
picked them to win Opening Night and the one what
have you done forst You would say, but but I
send Christmas presents and I'd do it. No, they would
say he picked the Lions the greatest night of our lives.
We're staying with not that it's going to happen well,
but you also acquiesced and went there for vacation in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Man, I'm like a Detroit insider.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Man, I'm like, I'm like like, like, I can they
like in Sons of Anarchy, they can patch me over
and I can be a Detroit guy.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Now, well, I really think in the end with this one,
it's the if it really goes badly, you don't lose anything, right,
your prediction would have just been the next year of
sucking was nails.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But my point is if they didn't gone terribly okay,
look it's it's Game one and the offense didn't exactly click.
I like the lean towards the end, don't get me wrong.
We talked about it with Jay Glazer a bit last
hour when you can start running the ball with David
Monggomery and go tick tick tick tick tick. Because Jamier
Gibbs he got an opportunity. You know what he did,
(03:05):
had a big flashy playing why did he end it?
He ran out of bus Montgomery get back in there,
and he found the end zone. You get the W
twenty one twenty. The fact that John Paul and Barrosi's
way under the total pick that he gave out on air,
and that was even before Kelsey was ruled out, that
(03:29):
he threw that up there really scares the hell out
of me. But this game not always aesthetically pleasing, bit
sloppy on both ends. But it's the first of two
seventy two and you got this one right. And I
know people are gonna say, I'm tired of it, and
then look, you don't have to do it for multiple
hours times.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
No, I'm tired of the lives the Lions. I told
you they were gonna win opening night against the defending
Super Bowl champion, Like I said on the road, on
the road, and I told you that going to the
Super Bowl Jet, You'll think Jet's line.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Super Bowl is happening now.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Jets line, super Bowl game, Jets, Jets, Jets Jets again.
Yea line again, Pam and Jason will Uh, well, she's
she's just going to torment you for the rest of
your life, uh, or vice versa, however that works.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Uh. But yes, you would get all of the family
for your prediction, because you've also been the good guy.
You've come to Detroit, You've gone down eight Mile, You've
broadcast from there, You've gone there for holidays while you
live in southern California. Ponder that America and globally. But
(04:38):
a game that look, the inches are all around you.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
We joke about the Paccinos speech all the time, the
number of drop balls, the near misses, the lack of
a go to player. Right, he hit a lot of receivers,
running backs, tight ends, wide receivers. You named it out
of the backfield. Would you not say, say you have
a distress property on your roster right now?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I e.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
A wide receiver, maybe a little longer in the tooth,
but who wants a new contract, wants to be made
whole and feel loved. I don't know it like a
Mike Evans.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Sure sure, wouldn't you be the GM dialing up Kansas
City right now, texted going, Hey, I got a guy.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Look, I got a guy. He can do wonders for
you. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And here's here's the big thing about this. Because you
hit on something that you want to see is inevitable.
But because of Mahomes, you thought he could stave it off. Right,
We talked two minutes ago about how Travis Kelsey is
the engine that makes this team go. You see it
after tonight, Right, he can't just put anybody out there
and expect the Chiefs to wit. Now it's the first
(05:43):
game of the season. I understand these are the defending
Super Bowl champions. You have won two of the last three.
I mean, you have the best quarterback in the NFL.
Maybe he's beholding a little bit more to Travis Kelson
you expect. Maybe Kelsey is the more indispensable guy. Right,
all these questions out.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
There, but the us and is also if Travis Kelcey
say he'd gotten hurt a week prior, you're telling me
they couldn't scheme something up, perhaps a little bit better,
because defensively they sure as hell did. He figuring that
Chris Jones wasn't shown up.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
They had eleven guys, they tried all eleven guys.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But the point is in your in your bag of tricks, right,
you're Felix the cat. You gotta Ronco set it and
forget it. Giant pile of stuff that's eighty seven, baby.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You can.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You can scheme it up all you want, but the
Lions are legit. And that's what people don't understand. It's
like they still think, oh, it's the lines a lot
the Lions are legit.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'm not. But you can scheme up.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No no, but you can scheme up. We're talking about
tonight and going forward. You can scheme up all you want.
But the Chiefs weren't the better team, and the Chiefs
may be at that point. This is the real dark
side for the Chiefs. Not not not that mahomes a Chief,
not that this is your the super Bowl champion opening
up at home.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But what I'm saying is if you go and analyze
this game, it's that, hey, Detroit dominated that.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Troy was a better team. De Troy was a better
team tonight. They were the best. They ran, they won point,
they won the game. So how do they not be
the better team.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But you're making it sound like this was some monumental.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Detroit went on the road against the defending sure world
champion in a primetime game and.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
This triumvirate, Wait, you tell me this is like coming
out himself. Detroit wasn't the better team tonight. Detroit was
a better tonight. They got him. My point that so
they weren't the better team. They won the game, but
they were not the better team.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Just the way you're making it sounds like they were
the eighty five Bears against the Patriots a super.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
How often do teams go into the defending Super Bowl
champions home on opening night and win? Not very Actually,
it's it's not as rare as you I think. Let
me go find the hasn't happened with homes Era hasn't
happened with homes Well, that's him. M he's got a
he's got a unicorn. The Lions want to they were
the better team. They won tonight. Great, the Lion's better
team tonight. Okay, they were the better team people want
to take. And my point in the beginning was the
(08:00):
lot people want to take the Lions for granted, Oh,
it's just lie. The Lions are legit. The Lions are
a legit team. I picked them for the Super Bowl
for a reason. They're legit. The big thing for the
the moment you want to get to, I forget about
last Lions and everything else. Okay, that's fine. You're just
upset you didn't pick the Lions.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's all. You're upset. I picked the lie. You didn't
pick the line. You should have picked the Lions. You
had a chance. You could have picked the Lions and
the Jets. You could have.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Now the Lion Lions did move right, We know the
odds because the NFC being the potential cesspool that it is,
the Jason had the uh cahonas to Bett, Well, that's true.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
They went from they went from plus forty five thousand
and now they're plus sixteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
They were that the line goes down.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
No, no, no, forty five thousand.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, they're plus one hundred and fifty to one. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, that's what I got the Jets, that's what I
got of that because I bet the Lions back. I
bet the Lions back in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
What do you bi?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, I bet back in eighty four, and it's coming
true for me now I did in thirty years. But
but look, here's the dark side for the for the
Chiefs is that they suck. You want to think that
no matter what, they're gonna turn over wide receiver corps
to wide receiver corps and it's always going to work.
Right now, you saw no Travis Kelcey. This was laid
(09:13):
bare tonight this wide receiver corps not have a lot
of separation. Mahomes had a lot of pay You saw
a lot of passes where the guys do there was
no daylight to get the ball in. They were pad.
The only place to throw the football was you had.
They had to leap to try to get past the
defensive back. Yes, Kadarius Tony dropping passes that were right
in his lap that.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Hurt him, but not always.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And we think it was gonna happen all the time
because the Chiefs had done it and they win the
Super Bowl last year with it. Hey, Kelsey's gonna catch
twelve passes a game. The other guys are gonna catch
a few here and there. No Travis Kelcey. And you
saw this wide receiving crew tonight. How good is this
really gonna be enough? You saw tonight going is this
really gonna you know how long Travis Kelsey's gonna be out?
You know if Kelsey does come back, they're not gonna
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be able to just lock in on Kelsey and say
we don't need to worry about the guys out. Why
be more because these wide receivers, all of them were
bad tonight. They couldn't get open there, they're just not
stars and to think that, yeah, you always think the
Chiefs are gonna be able to do it. But eventually,
when you keep running through all these receivers and changing
over and think, oh, this guy's gonna be a star.
Look at sky Moore. All we've heard this guy's going
(10:17):
to be a superstar. Sky Moore's a star. He's the
next great superstar for the Chiefs. Got to catch past
to night, didn't catch past tonight.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, but you get it. Get into those situations where
people just decide to get on a hype machine about
a guy, right because someone's got to be next. So
if it's MVS or a former first round pick and
Tony coming over from the Giants whatever else, it limited excitement.
It's you know, where's the unknown? Sky Moore was the unknown,
(10:45):
right you saw him in spots last year, and now
it's the all right, he gets to be the breakout
guy with the next evolution of this receiving corps and
it's one game, all right. It's hard to hard to
get over excided, but look, the show is tonight. We
have to react to it, and obviously don't dismiss a
(11:08):
the win by the Lions. You took care of business.
But for the Chiefs to go full doom and gloom
off it, I can't go there necessarily yet, either go
back to the board. Now, I don't trust Matt Naggy,
but I do trust Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes the
offensive line you're going up against the Look the Lions.
We knew coming in we're gonna be a pretty good team.
(11:29):
I picked the win. No, but they get the w great,
but we thought they'd have a pass rush in the NFC,
in that division, right in the NFC North. The conventional
thought process throughout our great think take of sports talk radio,
sports television is that the Lions are gonna win the division. Right,
(11:53):
That's not that's not a hot take. I'm not shocking
anybody there. Super Bowl now, that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But to go through the division, because nobody likes Captain
Kirk and the and the Vikings, figuring there's somewhere between
the one loss marathon of the Zimmery the final year,
and whatever happened last year that they find some happy
medium there. The Bears, they can't be any worse than
they were a year ago. But does that necessarily translate
to wins maybe maybe not. And then the Packers there's
(12:22):
the hate watching of Jordan Love good God, you want
to talk about drink watch parties. If you were to
pull media members, they're waiting for him with you know,
pitchforks and torches. So it's been all about the Lions
moving forward, which is funny because everybody hated Jared Golf
Yeah this whole time too.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So it's like, all right, well you got him.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It's like he's got a string right now of almost
four hundred pass attempts without an interception. For as much
as much maligned as he is. Tonight, you got twenty
eight carries on the ground between Montgomery and Gibbs. That's
where this gets that much more interesting. Wide receivers will
be fun. I'm on Ross Saint Brown is a guy
that's probably still gonna catch a hundred balls. But if
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you can start sledgehammering on the ground in shortened games, yeah,
we start talking about the Lions. But for the Chiefs,
I'm not as stressed because because Canarious, Tony's gonna be
on some other.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Team when he dropping balls for somebody else, he'll.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Be dropping dropping as Oh you know, you gotta have
a fall guy. You're Week one MVP player of the game.
Canarius Tony. I mean his war for tonight is probably
negative twelve and a half. Oh at least. Yeah, they're
gonna hang his jersey at Ford Field them instead of
a banner, it's just a giant flapping.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
They take down the what fifty seven the year they
won with the land they take that down to put
Canarius Tony's jersey.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
But I mean, like you can break this game down
a million different ways, it still comes back to Cadarius Tony.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
If he kept really, if he catches any one of
those passes.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
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Speaker 2 (14:14):
What band is this? This would be the White Stripes. Okay,
very good and very good, very good. I want to
make sure you knew all there good.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I also did Stevie Wonda before We all the World
by Accidents, so.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well that okay, there's like a thousand people that singing
we are the word wasn't Michael Jackson sing that, yes,
he's in there.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
There were seventy people.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Madonna was in it. Everybody was in it except for Prince.
Prince was not in it. Well he's dead right, well,
but he was alive when they did it. Soon the
rumor was, I heard that he wanted to do a
guitar solo and they said they didn't have one form.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So said, I'm not going to do it. I want
a guitar solo.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Nope, A story out there for a long time.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
You go out there.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So Alex Tischer, we are having a night where you
are celebrating artists from Detroit, and I dig that you did.
Now you could have played Hotel Yorba, which is part
of my favorite white stripe song Popular. But actually drive
by Hotel Yorba when when we're driving when I go
back to Michigan, Oh hey, there is Hotel Yorbra one
two three four.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Take the elevator at the Hotel Yorba. I'll be glad
to see you later. So are they brother and sister?
Man and wife? Uh? Yes, both? Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
WHOA Okay, Well come on now, well the.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Judge, well his Detroit.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They were married, but they taught, but people thought they
were brother and sister, so they kept that going for
a while. I'm smart, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then
and then Jack Jack White.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Did do Do, don't do Do?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Get a lot of money off that.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
We're gonna get Ty Shirt's gonna give us the most
obscure from now on, the most obscure Detroit artists. Yeah,
all you've done is mock his musical choices for months.
As long as I get Sponge Molly, No No, No, Holly
by sponge Are you ready good Molly Bye spongey aie Captain,
(15:54):
I can't here.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You just don't play.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Any kid rock, okay, Patrick, If I got some Seager,
I won't care about a little roll me away. No
kid rock, no kid rock, No no no, unless you
play Picture because that's kid rock and Cheryl Crow and I.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Like that song.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
But if I get if I get Molly's, Sponge Molly
might be one of my top three songs from the nineties.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You're asking people to bring you Molly.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Like Molly, not to song well, because sixteen Can Club,
We're going to No No No Molly, and I nearly
lost you by Screaming Trees Get five. All my favorite songs,
although not from Detroit. The screaming trees out date yourself there, Smith.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But whenever you can get a band in that at
different points included the great Land again.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Try one from this century. Ty Shirt doesn't know that,
he has no idea. I'm always confused. Sponge. The band
is Sponge, the song is Molly. Really, Yes, I'd rather
be Molly singing Sponge.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, it's a it's a better song the other way around,
you sure, yeah, because not many words rhyme with sponge plunge.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Okay, that's one. I only had one ready. That's the
one where they're live from Bikini Bottom.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That's a very.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And then he points to the crowd, so they all
saying that's actually happened before. He doesn't rock and roll
call back.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Now, the SpongeBob musical is quite good from the seen
it of Bikini Bottom.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
There it is Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Mike Carbon
live from the Tireck dot Com studio. Is gonna hear
from Dan Campbell right now, Lions head coach. Following the
Lions victorious final over the Chiefs twenty one to twenty
opening night of the NFL, Happy we made it, We
all made it. The Chiefs aren't happy. Everybody else is happy.
(17:51):
Lions are going to the super Bowl, like I told
you last night, Lions are gonna win the game.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Like I told you last night. Lion line lines my life.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
But we got something big on Dan Campbell. But it's
here a couple of minutes of him first as he's
holding his lunchbox and is he holding that big bikini
bottom lunch boxes? He answered questions from the media followed
the Lions victory.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
That's why we played with three phases, so you know,
if one at any given time struggling a little bit,
the other two will bell them mount. And then that
happened today and uh, all the units stepped up when
when we needed them most. And I'm proud of those guys,
proud of the staff. You know, I thought our defense
really showed up today. And and what's encouraging is in
all three phases, we got so much to clean up.
(18:30):
You know that will only be better from but this
was step one. This is game one. So I'm proud
of them when you ended that.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Game with your keeping steams from the big steps and
then ks mind drop a game numbers down, grows down.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean that's something we talk about is closing
games out. You know, we we with our offensive line,
uh and and what we have offensively, we need to
be able to do that and something that you know,
we worked a lot on situational football. But yeah, everybody
knows the strength of our offense and it's that old line.
But but defensively before that, man, I just thought they
(19:10):
showed up. You know, they showed up in a big way.
We talked at halftime about cleaning up some of our
communication errors and then and we needed to take away
and we needed to be much better on third down.
Well we did that. We got to take away to
the house and we were oh and seven on third
downs in the second half, and then you close it
out on that last drive. They got three timeouts and
(19:32):
you get them in a fourth and forever. But I
was proud of the way those guys played, you know,
and it was it was gonna take every one of them,
and it was going to take a lot of discipline
in the in the front seven, in the back end,
and and boy they did that.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So how was just learning about this team when you
go through the process every day. Listen to a breathe
into the microphone. We'll explaining for the question, what do
you learn about this time?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I didn't learn anything. I got verification on what I
already knew. And this is a resilient team. It already
was a resilient team, and we added pieces to that
resilient team. So we're built to handle some stuff and
and we did that today against a very good opponent.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The Chiefs are who we thought they were. Who we
thought they were.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
There's Dan Campbell, so happy. Look, there's lots of ways
to be a successful head coach. And I don't know
what kind of strategist Dan Campbell is. I don't know
what kind.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
We watched it in game your second guess, Yeah, hey, right?
I mean when the Cubs won the World Series, you
and I were on air, what do we do? Questioned
everything Joe Madden did. Yes, when the Dodgers won the
World Series a couple of years ago, what do we do?
We questioned everything Dave Roberts did related to his bullpen.
They won that. Hey, Dan Campbell, you had a couple
(20:50):
of decisions that you make, going ooh, I don't know
you won.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
There's a misconception to what people and think about what
great coaching is. When you say a great coach, every
fan defaults the same thing. This guy had a great system,
he had a systems. He had a great system. He
had a great system. He was able to out X
and O your team with what he was able to do.
(21:16):
And that was Bill Parcells for the longest time, no
matter what, he was able to be the guy that
the big quote about him was always he could take
his players and beat your team. He could take your
players and beat his team. Rather, that was a big thing,
and that it defaults to, guys had a great system,
Guy's got a great mind, Guy's able to do it.
Bill Belichick has been the guy for the last twenty
some odd years that we think of that when he's
(21:36):
always going to outscheme you, and that is that is
a way to be a great coach. But sometimes coaching
is different. With Deon Sanders, is Deon a great play caller? No,
the guy the guy's riding around on a golf cart
all the different stations at practice and shouting encouragement.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
What he's got to say.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Deon strengths are in recruiting and getting the guys to believe,
in fostering a culture. That's what he that's his big
strength as a head coach. The same thing for Dan Campbell,
and you know, Jay Glazer talked about it a little
bit with us earlier in the show. Dan Campbell's someone
who has created a culture. You can see everything that
the Lions players have said about him about each other,
whether it's Jared Goff or anybody, players that played there
(22:17):
last year and are gone, like Jamal Williams, whoever it is,
they all said the same thing. We love playing for him,
we love playing for each other. That's a really difficult
thing to try to impart on your team. It's the
same thing as Hey, I want to put in a
winning culture, winning for him. I want the guys to
love each other and play for each other. Well, sometimes
that's easier said than done, because you have fifty different
(22:37):
personalities in that room that you want to try to
get on the same page. But everything you have seen
from Dan Campbell to all the players there, they also
the same thing. Coach is great. We love coach. We
want to make him proud. He talks about his players.
I'm making him proud. We saw it with Danny Hurley, right,
What was the big thing we heard about Danny Hurley
when Yukon won this year? He just loves his guys, right.
He doesn't do anything crazy. It's not about a got
(23:00):
the grease pencil and I'm able to out outmaneuver you.
But he loves his guys and gets them to play
at a high level. And that's what Dan Campbell is,
the culture and the belief that he is built in
there for each other. You heard him allude to it
at the end right there by saying, Hey, I just
got validation tonight. That's being a great coach too. But
people don't see it that way. They don't see this, Oh,
he's the guy there and he's yeah. No, that's part
(23:22):
of being a coach because you could have the most
talented guys in the world. If you can't get him
to go out there to want to give everything up
they can to try to win a game.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It doesn't matter how good you are well.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
But it always goes back to, I mean, let's grab
another sport in let's grab the world of the NBA.
People dismiss what Phil Jackson did. Tell me how many
other coaches could get all those egos with the Bulls,
with the Lakers and get those guys to go play
and just put it all aside. And what it's all about.
(23:51):
I mean, especially you watch the years of Scottie Pippen
then and now come on in for the time until
that round and ended in the second three p But.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Now he's selling a lot of bourbon.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
He's bitter, salty, but just the idea of like you
even got him to buy in, like Dennis Rowdman, huge wildcard,
both places. Phil Jackson got him to buy in all
of those things. So it takes a lot of of
the personality and finding guys and working and having continuity
with your front office as well of this is the
(24:25):
type of player we're looking to bring in. This is
the kind of team we're looking to build. Does Jared
goff next necessarily fit the in terms of the aesthetics
of what you would think of Dan Campbell quarterback is No,
not necessarily. At one point, he was walking off the
field after they tapped down that fourth down when they
went for it, and he was walking off and in
my head, I'm sitting there going he's singing to himself,
(24:47):
city stars are Shot.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I don't think people sing that song themselves as much
as you think that, No, but they should. That's like you.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
But he looks like Ryan Gosling is is the point.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I'm just ken anywhere else side be it.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That was pretty good too, especially when he's starting to
wear like the wrestling gear as he's singing it.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
But it's it's just.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
The idea that, you know, you go back to the
fiery world of Ditka and what he and Buddy Ryan
were doing that would work. Frostburg set us a thing
right where you're gonna have the Bobblehead Hall of Fame.
They're doing the chair throwing, Bobby Knight commemorating Boba. It's
a beauty, right, it looks great. It really does look good.
(25:34):
But he said, well, you know, how does that work?
And well it can. Right, there's got to be a
marriage of a lot of it. But now it's also
the the game has changed, players are I mean, you're
looking at fifty three individual corporations and trying to manage
that and everybody's needs kind of like everything the PA
fails to do when they go to the negotiating table
(25:56):
with Roger Goodell. In each of these businesses, you've got
to figure out how you're going to reach your guys
and come up with some sort of cohesive nature. And
that's the thing with Dan Campbell. He is who he is. Right.
We've talked about Sean Payton a lot the last couple
of weeks, some of the quotes. I'd like that he
(26:17):
would just keep that all in house, but hey, it's
good fodder for us. But that's who he is. Don't
apologize for it. Lean into it, strategist. Yeah, there's some
things that are gonna get left on the field, and
sometimes it's better to be lucky than good and having
a guy like Kadarius tonas Tony leave a bunch of
balls on the field for you to go get. But
you know what, you make the plays that are there
(26:38):
out for you and down the stretch. When it came
time to say, hey, big boys, go get it and
get me that lean, that offensive line took care of business.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Don't ask why the Lions won, they just did d D.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
D D D d D.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Here's why it's called Molly Alex ty shirt. To celebrate
the Lions. When tonight, all the music from Detroit area artists.
Although we may have to play Karma chamellion later because
it turns forty today.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
How about that forty Karma.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Chamelion forty forty the song the song Karma Chameleon forty.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Years old about a amellion named Karma in theory? Yes, yeah,
they turned forty forty. Yes, I thoughtkamellions are like twelve
years old most they're.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Not the man, No, I don't they live long? Don't,
like Liz, don't those other kinds of lizards like kimodo
dragons live to be like one hundred and ten.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Thing? It depends if they're plant based or bug base.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Do we know?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Don't they tell you, hey, don't adopt one of those
because they're gonna outlive you, right, don't Don't they say
that about like I know they say that about parrots.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
How old I got.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
About follow that advice you shouldn't have kids? No, No,
it's like someone who's like sixty getting a young parrot.
Now that parrot's gonna live to be eighty years old,
you're gonna have to give it to somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Oh, okay, who deserves my parrot? Talk about sitting down
and making out a will?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Why Jason, you know, who wasn't around forty years ago. Okay,
wait a Minutuh oh all right, I have my guess
as to what you're gonna say, but go ahead, our listeners.
Oh wow, I gotta explained to millennials what sponge is.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I was gonna say a Lions win.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
I know sponge from Seinfeld. It's what a lane uses. No, yes, different, yes,
different sponge, different sponge, yes, different.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
She was a hoarder.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Tonight we watched the Lions win opening night in the NFL,
defeating the Chiefs twenty one to twenty, and the Lions
defense was really good. The Chief's offense was not missing.
Travis Kelcey proved to be as big a deal as
we told you it was going to be coming into
(28:39):
this game.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Why didn't he play?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
We heard reports that he was questionable, He was going
to work out and potentially play tonight. We knew a
couple hours before the game Kelsey was not going to play.
Here is Chiefs head coach Andy Reid honest thought process
with not playing Travis Kelcey just.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
It just wasn't It wasn't feeling right. So I wasn't
gonna put him out there with that. And he was
honest with me. You know, we talked, so just not
enough time there.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
How big a factor do you think that was?
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Yeah? And I wouldn't have no excuses at all. We've
got guys that can play right.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
How big you was?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Did you watch the game? Kadarius Tony had eight passes
bounce off his hands. We couldn't do anything. What do
you mean? How big his performance? What are you talking
about his performance? I'm kind of question like that.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You have to ask me about his performance. It's such
a loud question.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Fifty three guys still suited up, all men in red
uniforms together as brothers as one.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
How watched you with Travis Kelson? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
No, come on, dude, seriously, did you wave to Chris
Jones at any point during the game? How awkward must
that have been? He's watching from a from a suite.
That's awkward.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I mean, you want to talk about a guy flexing, Look,
he's flexing. But I'm telling you I'm okay missing a
million dollars a week. We all should aspire to such issues.
What's my opportunity cost? I could play football and earn
a million dollars, or I can hold out and eventually
get well, maybe a bit more, But that money ain't
coming back.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
The defense wasn't the problem today. No, Obviously, we watched
the offense really struggle. And look, we're going into knowing
Travis Kelsey's gonna be out. We said, is Mahome still
gonna be the same guy? And one thing that was
accelerated tonight, all right now, are the Chiefs gonna be
fine Kelsey comes back? They did it with a bunch
of jag wide receivers last year. But you see what's
(30:37):
where it's at right now. And maybe Kelsey's dinged up,
he's hurt to begin the season. The process has been
accelerated in let's add something by the deadline. You mentioned
Mike Evans, who wants a new deal. That could happen
because the Bucks are gonna have a terrible year. You're
talking about some some teams with some talented players on it,
and the Chiefs are gonna be the first team at
the head of that line to say, let's go get somebody,
(30:59):
because they're not gonna let a year of Patrick Mahomes
slip away and say, well just in work. No, they're
gonna try to reload on the fly. And what you
saw tonight accelerated that process because nobody was any good.
I mean, forget about Kadarius Tony and all the drops yet,
which we'll get to that, trust me, but just take
that out. Nobody was able to get any kind of separation.
There was nobody Mahmes to get the ball to. He
(31:19):
threw the ball to eleven different targets tonight. Now, yes,
he does like to spread the ball around, but eleven
and nobody could get anything going. He had the lowest
passer rating for his career in the second half of
the game tonight. What they have right now on offense
when Travis Kelsey's not there, is not enough and they're
gonna be trust me, that's the first team to say, yup,
get ready watching the teams with wide receivers, they're gonna
(31:41):
make a move to get one of them by the deadline.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, I mean the curiosity. Also the offensive line, and
we talked a lot about the Lions and what they
bring defensively up front. They're one of your better units.
I mean we said that for weeks going in and
not just you know a year, Hey, I'm picking them
for the Super Bowl, just straight analysis and knowing coming
in the Chiefs offensive line was gonna have a tall
(32:05):
task and you don't have necessarily a great running back.
But check go's good, right, it's I think it's kind
of the the brock Purty effective because he was mister irrelevant.
Now he's a superstar because he was became a star.
Sure right, same thing with Pacheco. Seventh round guy, well
look what he Look what he did. I mean, he's
a beast. But Clyde Edwards Hilaire getting some touches. You
(32:29):
don't have a breakout guy there. I would have thought
McKinnon would have been a bigger weapon in this game
with Kelsey not involved, uh and not able to play,
to give the offensive line a little bit of help. Instead,
you're spreading the ball around and when it's all said
and done, I mean it's canari is Tony's face? Is
(32:50):
it like that's the tail of the tape for this game?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Tiring his jersey at Ford Field for tonight's win. He
was there, MVP.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
But if you can go get a Ligneman, if you
could go get Evans or one of these many wide
receivers that are allegedly disgruntled and.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
At it exit, how about a Fresca exit swollen dome
the Jason Smith show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Coming up next, something insane about the Chiefs wide receivers
and running backs.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Keep it here, Fox, have you bird that karma
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