September 14, 2023 • 42 mins
Jets head coach Robert Saleh would ‘be shocked’ if Aaron Rodgers retires after Achilles injury. NFL Insider Jordan Schultz swings by for all BIG headlines from around the league. And future Laker Giannis Antetokounmpo speaks on his future in Milwaukee and the latest on Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. Jason tells you why Tua Tagovailoa is the new Dak Prescott. And Micah Parsons rips the Giants for leaving Daniel Jones in during the blowout loss.
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We are Mike Harmon in the The Bridge Day between
(00:58):
week one and week two in the NF fell and
we found out much like the undertaker Aaron Rodgers plans
to rise, he will rise again as he says on Instagram,
I will rise from the ashes. I will rise again.
He's going to rise, He's gonna run.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Now he's either trying to channel his inner Frankenstein's monster
because it was doctor Frankenstein, or is it Frankenstein Frankenstein Frankenstein. Yeah,
so we got that going, or you know, you go
Biblical and you got Lazarus, or you got you got
Jesus himself. I mean, what about the Jesus? Yes, how
(01:39):
you know I.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Go WWE, which you love the WWE, and you go
everywhere else but the WWE. What I mean, I give
you a fastball down the middle, and you said, Nope,
I don't want this fastball down. Give me some kind
of crazy ass curve that's off the plate that I'm
gonna wave at like your Darryl Strawberry. Just give me
something like that. I gave you what. I gave you,
an undertaker fastball down the That was good.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
But I'm you're you're the one that loves to do
the personal pringle rev you know, impression.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Exactly the ashes of Zach Wilson here in this herd.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
No No, no, yeah, because I think of him when he
was you know, from an earlier incarnation of Perceval Pringle
the Third when he was at World Class Championship Wrestling
and running around with the Texas Drawl and everything against
the von Erics. So you know the the many stages
for you, you like, you know, the urn and and
all of that imagery, and maybe that's it. I saw
(02:35):
a great meme of Aaron Rodgers head over the young
Forrest Gump when he was getting fitted for his leg braces, so.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
That was good. Yeah. Yeah, I'd give him my achilles
if I could, if it would work. I get watch,
I give him my dad's achilles first, because my dad
doesn't really need it, but then I give him mine
if I need it.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Is no good, I'll give it good. And I've seen
you run that's no good.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
But although, although when you're not thinking about it, when
when you're actually just reacting like you did after that
punt return, Oh yeah, when I ran up and that
was the most explosive legwork you've ever done.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I was explosive. I was really I also think I
pulled something in one of my arches on my right
foot when I did that, But that's okay. It was
worth it, you know what.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I got a couple of sessions left on the cryo
therapy package that I bought. So you know, if you
want to come down to Redondo Beach, we'll set you
up and you can go get the negative two fifty treatment.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh nice, I dig that. I dig that guy. What
are you doing? Cryotherapy? What happened was it? Was it? Yeah? Well,
the Jets won and I ran up and down the
hallway too fast, and what happened? I took like three
steps and all of a sudden, I don't know what happened,
but my arch didn't feel good. So three steps after
the Jets won. Yeah, okay, I haven't heard that before.
Com on, just sticks that up.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
But you know what, if you said that and you
were in Wisconsin, they were thinking you were fleeing that
bar without paying your tab. So it all comes full circle.
But you know, certainly the Rogers statement and the indication
and you know, vow that he will return from this,
it's great fodder here forty eight hours after the fact.
(04:07):
I mean, what the hell is he gonna say? Yeah,
I'm done. The training's gonna be too hard, it's too
many hours. I got other concert tours. I mean, Taylor's
gonna be in Europe next year, so I'm thinking of
going to a few of those dates. And you know,
Olivia Rodrigo just announced her Guts tour, so I gotta
go follow that around. No, he's not gonna say any
(04:28):
of that. He's gonna say no, I'm coming back, and
I'm coming back with a vengeance to get revenge on the.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Turf From Instagram. The night is darkest before the dawn Batman,
I shall rise.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yet, who the hell does he think he is?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I shall rise, he rise. He's Aaron Rodgers, He's the Undertaker.
He will rise again.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
He can't even walk on water right now?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Well, that's what I mean. He'll rise again.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
At some point that he said, mister Wayne, I have
no desire to spend the rest of them.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
So are they gonna burn him? Is that what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I can't bury another Batman.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
People are just gonna light him on fire and then
he's gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Buried so many whatever it takes him to come back.
If you could light his achilles on fire, they're gonna
play on Sunday against the Cowboys. We'll light that achilles
on fire. Doesn't work that way, yeah, right now, the
other thing of strikes.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I mean, we can't put that into production, that whole
thing you're trying to put out there Fronsburg. Yeah, I
mean that would have to be a non union You'd
have to get a bunch of permits and uh, you.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Know, well, but you Aaron Rodgers on fire. Yeah, I
gotta get it.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I gotta get an exemption from the union.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Where do you want to do it? Century City, Hollywood
sign where Dody. I'll let you do wherever you want
to do.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Come on, that's only appropriate.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Now Here's now this is that you know I'm being
real when I say this, because you know what, of
course I want Aaron Rodgers to come back and everything,
and I got stars in my eyes about twenty twenty four,
Rogers says I'll rise again. Here's Robert solid. Jets head
coach Day was asked about the retirement question for Aaron Rodgers,
and Robert Salas said, well, I don't quite see. Take
a listen, I'd be shocked if he's if this is
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the way he's going to go out. But at the
same time, for him, he's working through a whole lot
of headspace things that he needs to deal with, and
that will be the last thing I've talked to him about.
This falls under the category of course he's going to
come try to come back. Of course Rogers wants to
continue to play, of course, and this falls under my
category of I hear you, but sure. I mean, look,
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on the night of the injury, we talked about it.
Aaron Rodgers is thirty nine years old, and this is
a torn achilles. This is a horrendous injury to have
to go through. We've seen quarterbacks go through Achilles injuries
and come back and be close to what they were before,
but not quite what they were before. We've never seen
someone this age go through that kind of torn When
(06:48):
it happened, if any Testaverity, because it happened to Jet
you every twenty years happens to the Jets. So in
twenty years, Jordan Love, it's going to happen to you.
Get ready what happened at Testaverity. He came back, he
played a few more years, but he was never really
the same. He was kind of a get by guy.
He was never the passor he was in nineteen ninety eight.
The grueling rehab that Rogers is going to have to
go through at the age of thirty nine is really difficult,
(07:11):
especially when now he's trying to figure stuff out. I
don't doubt he's gonna try. I don't doubt that he's
not gonna sit here and go oh that first day, yeah,
I took three steps. I can't do it. You know,
like when you decide you're gonna start working out and
you get in the treadmill and you go for like
thirty seconds to go yeah, yeah, I'm winded, I'm done.
I gonna slow down, slow down, off, and I'm off. No,
he's going to give it a go. But is he
really gonna be able to come back and be the guy?
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Is he gonna be able to plant and throw the
ball like he used to? Is he gonna be able
to be the same quarterback? Is he gonna have to
be a crafty quarterback where hey, we gotta hide what
he can and can't do. That's the big question. So
if you told me is Aaron Rodgers gonna play for
the Jets. There's so many people today that have said
he's under center next year. He's under center week one.
Next year, he's under center week one. When they get
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to training camp, he's coming back. You're gonna see it.
The best thing I can tell you is, man, I
have no idea. I mean, I can't tell you he's
gonna come back. In fact, if I had to lead
one way or the other, I would say maybe his Jets'
career is four plays. Maybe it's four plays, because you
could say, yes, I want to do all these things
and the mind is great, but is the body there
(08:14):
for it? And Rogers is someone who has never really
had to go crazy working out getting ready. Got Look
what he doesn't. He doesn't play in preseason games. He
hadn't played in preseason games in a long time. He
had a little bit of a calf tweaked during training camp.
Of what happened, it blew out on and when he
tried to just go full tilt the first time he
tried to do it. So what's his body like? It
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sounds great, I mean, and I'd love to see it. It
sounds great for Robert Solid to say there's no way
he's work. There's stuff, and Aaron Rodgers tweeter I'm gonna try. Yes,
of course he's gonna try. But what people don't, what
people are forgetting is that bodies don't listen to sports
talk radio and bodies don't get on Twitter. Right, Aaron
Rodgers left leg is not logging onto social media going
I'm gonna come back. I gotta make sure he doesn't
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work that way, does not work that way. He is
thirty nine years old, coming off a devastating injury in
which Aaron Rodgers was hoping to get close to the
guy that was maybe a top ten periphery quarterback in
the NFL. Now, is he comes back, if he is
an average quarterback, he's somebody that's going to hey, well,
he's got the slyness, but that's not gonna be enough
(09:17):
because if he can't make the throws, you can't make
the throws. Can he still throw off his back foot,
still being able to throw a side him? Can he
do all of these things? I know I want to
be that guy. Right. I'm the one that told you
last night Jets are going to the playoffs this year.
They're gonna win ten games, are going to the playoffs.
The roster is loaded. Is Aaron Rodgers gonna play man?
I'll tell you I don't know. I can't tell you. Yes,
the other guy. It sounds great and I want to
(09:37):
be full of that fire and brimstone and positivity when
it comes to it. But I gotta be realistic, man,
And there's just as much a chance that Zach Wilson
or somebody else is playing quarterback next year for the
Jets Week one, then it is Aaron Rodgers. If Wilson
plays well this year, it'll be the same thing. Wilson
will come back starting. If Rogers is healthy, you'll play,
(09:59):
if not at Zach Wilson. If Zach Wilson stinks, then
it's gonna be somebody else they're gonna sign to come
in that could potentially start. Because you can't trust that
Aaron Rodgers is going to start. There is just as
much a chance it's somebody else that it's Aaron Rodgers.
I can't sit here and tell you, oh, yeah, he
says it, he's coming back. Yeah. I get he wants to,
but it's not really up to him. It's up to
his body. It's up to where. It's up to what
(10:19):
he can do and what happens when you start rehabbing
and getting back to this and after the surgery, whoever
the surgery goes. There's just too many variables. And I
hate to say it because you know me, I want
to be that positive guy. I want to see hear
it and say, hey, buy your Aaron Rodgers gear keeping
it's great. I can't do it, Mike, I can't. Yeah,
I'm on the positivity side of Hey. I like when
the guys continue to play when they're older. That means
(10:41):
I haven't aged out completely. Right.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
When Brady hung him up, I had to throw stuff
against the wall. I was kind of pissed because now
I was that much older than the next guy that's
behind him, and we've got Rogers there. And while for
me it was gonna be a very conflicted year with
him under center, you know, as much as you know
you're my best friend and all, I kind of needed
(11:05):
them to struggle. But it's also not a really good story.
If they're nine and eight, nobody cares, right, So they
were gonna have to be great or fail spectacularly. And
now it's the intrigue of all, right, what is this
team now? But going forward? Does Zach Wilson show you
enough towards like, we love you, Aaron, but we do
need to move on because you're gonna be forty right,
(11:28):
and holding and pressing pause on this and then wishing
and hoping not only is he able to come back?
But how much do you fear an other injury? You know,
maybe unrelated, but because of the pressure, what your what,
you start to favor all of those kind of things
that it adds up. Right, We look at look at
(11:49):
Lebron James. He was indestructible and we joked about it
for years, you and I he's a cyborg. Well, now
that the champ is hurt, he's cut like Drago the Russian.
He's cut so little, little injuries pile up. So the
same thing here is that the fear is this becomes
the beginning of an end, even if you were able
to make it back. That it's Aaron Rodgers in spirit,
(12:13):
but certainly not the player we remember. So you know,
I'll root for it, for age and for guys to
battle back off injuries. You hate to see it where
he carries the flag and then four plays later he's
being carted off. That's about as bad as it gets.
So we want that story of redemption because if nothing else,
we get a movie out of it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I tell you, just as good a chance as anybody
I want to do it, just as good a chance
at Zach Wilson or Caleb Williams something that's just saying
someone else.
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Speaker 4 (13:17):
Now, I was the only one with the guts to
name him and finally.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Out on the field.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's true. Well I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I won't be for long if you're to believe anything.
I mean, even eber Flu saying I don't know. We
got to look into that. Yeah, he backed Frostberry. You
just wait, man, you wait until somebody gets you.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Just wait.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
What are you gonna say? Put it out there?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Come on, dare you tempting fate. Just keep tempting fate.
Just keep doing it, Just keep doing it, Just keep
doing it, Just keep tempting.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Seventy five seconds, Jason.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You watch, you watch. That's gonna be the title of
Aaron Rodgers year with the Jets. Seventy five seconds.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
That's the title of your book.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Rich Semini's right now book, Seventy five seconds. Aaron Rodgers
I thinks gonna have lasted longer than Rogers twenty three seasons.
Seventy five seconds. Now, I'm gonna give you a really
big Bowl prediction on Rogers here in a second, but
obviously today for Rogers. Look, we're still in the after effect.
This is day three of Aaron Rodgers out for the season.
(14:20):
Uh puts on an Instagram post, He's gonna rise yet again.
Robert Salaz says, I fully expect him to try to
come back and play. Be shocked if be retired. But
a bigger thing to take this on conversation in a
different direction is we really want him around the team.
I'm hoping when he is ready, he can come back
and be around us. And right now he's working through
stuff and Rogers is trying to figure out what's next.
(14:42):
He has not scheduled a date for surgery. He's still
trying to figure out just how he wants to go forward,
still dealing with the fact that, hey, guess what, you're
not playing football at all this year, and who knows
if you get to play football again. At some point,
the Jets are gonna want him back around. And I'll
tell you this much, he is absolutely one gonna be
a huge presence on the Jets sideline the entire season.
(15:03):
When he decides to, it's probably not gonna be this week.
The Jets have to learn to get along without him
a little bit. You know. Bill Parcells had this big
quote he never wanted injured players around the team because
he never wanted a reminder of who's not there. But
Rodgers has become such a presence and he's instilled the
Jets with a belief in themselves, Hey we can win.
We got eight now that just him being around is
(15:26):
going to help. Just be able to pick his brain
is gonna help. You saw during Hard Knocks it Garrett
Wilson Sauce Gardner couldn't get enough of hanging out with
a guy and hearing him talk football, and Zach Wilson
says amazing things about Aaron Rodgers. He's helping me here,
He's helped me with this. The Jets are gonna have
him around, and trust me, he's gonna be on the
sideline right next to right next to Robert Sala, you know,
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on the headset with Nathaniel Hackett getting game plans ready.
It will almost seem like he's playing, except he's not
going to be. The cameras will cut to him all
the time during games. He is going to be extremely
visible on the Jets. Do you think we haven't seen
Rodge again?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Uh. You're gonna see him all over the television, partly
because he likes the attention, and he's not gonna be
not around football for a whole year. Look, I'll tell
you the truth. The guy's not gonna know what to
do with himself. He's gonna be I gotta find some way.
But you will see him every single Sunday. He will
be there. He'll be a very visible member of the Jets.
They're still gonna talk to him after games during the
(16:23):
week leading up to it. He is gonna be a
huge presence and it's gonna be a good thing for
the Jets even though he's injured that he's around.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Trust me, yeah, he intrigues me in that regard of
like what role does he take on? You know, is
he go to Hacket and just say get out of
the way. I am the captain now right, the pupil
has become the master beat it. We don't need you anymore.
Sean Payton was right. I don't know all of that
could come down, but Robert Sala I think it would
be to his detriment because we you know, everybody would
(16:52):
recognize what you and I have all along. Aaron Rodgers
is the coach of this team. Now it's not just
I am the cat, no, no, no, I am, It's
my squad. But the curiosity in the relationship with Zach
Wilson is just remembering that, you know, with Zach Wilson
for all of the collegiate accolades, it's been a rough
(17:13):
transition thus far. I think we can all stipulate to that.
And even in this last game, a couple of big throws,
one that looks like a great three yard TD pass
because of what Garrett Wilson was able to do. But
otherwise it's gonna be He's gonna face a lot of
zone defenses, and you're gonna really have to lean on
Haul and Cook to keep things flowing right.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So how much do you do you lean back.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Into where Aaron Rodgers, you know, is in his ear,
Because it's one thing to throw a deep ball and
get your fifty seven yard completion in a preseason game
where the only consequence is damn, that didn't work, whereas
now it's, oh, we just gave up field position, position,
and we gave the ball and turned it over in
our territory or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Right, So those kind of things to.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Where maybe the old adage of the superstar coming in
over the coach and then expecting them to be able
to replicate what you've done all your career, the potential
for chaos is there. As for the just general influence, yeah,
I mean, you see what all the young guys are posting,
and you.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Know their heart broken to not work with them.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's really a curious like he came in and like
the speech he gave in Denver and everything else. Now
he's like a guru that came in and brought them
to some other level of consciousness and confidence at the
pro level. So you want to have that positivity, positivity around,
but there's also that fear that now we're still talking
(18:45):
about the backup quarterback a lot on game data. Is
that a help or a hindrance in the long run.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think the more to button this, the more that
he can take the pressure off of Zach Wilson, I
think the better it is. If we're talking about keeping
Zach Wilson out of the out of any extra exposure
to the spotlight that would probably be detrimental for him.
He can suck up some of that energy and let
the guys just go play. I mean, he's gonna be
(19:12):
He's gonna be a positive influence on the team for
all of those reasons. And while you see him there
and again, I know we've gotten into this a little
bit before, but I'm telling you sooner rather than later,
and maybe it's with the Jets in a couple of years.
Aaron Rodgers is going to be an NFL head coach.
He will if he wants to be, he will go.
But here's the thing. He will go right from playing
(19:34):
to being an NFL head coach. You see it in
Hard Knocks, the relationship he has with the players, the
instant Cachet. Young guys just in the league a year
want to come up and glean any kind of information
they can from him. Garrett Wilson Sauce gardener, anybody, what
do you got? What do you got? What do you got?
Zach Wilson, what do you got? What do you got?
The coaches love him, right he may You saw him
on the sidelines during during hard knocks. He looked like
(19:56):
the head coach then. But the knowledge that he has the.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Own drugs and tea especially, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean you want to go anyway. He's gonna be
your guy for ayahuasca one hundred percent. But it's I
see where you're going. Your question is gonna be, yeah,
if he wants. He's got a lot of other stuff
going on. He likes to you know, he likes his
own time to go do different things. And is he
really gonna have it in him to be a guy
that shows up at the at Florham Park or wherever
he's going at eight o'clock in the morning and leaving
(20:24):
at nine o'clock at night. But here's the thing, he
will be one of those New Age New Way success
stories that will blow out of the water. What you
think about what an NFL head coach needs to be.
And do you think I'm wrong? Look at Deon Sanders
with Colorado. Deon Sanders shows up. Does Deon Sanders have
a great system? No, he hired a guy with a
(20:44):
great system. Deon rides around in a golf cart, you know,
shouting out instructions. In practice, he talks to guys and
he and he's able to recruit already, the number one
quarterback recruit in the country wants to look at Colorado
after what he's done. Dion is doing it in a
non popular way, and I was kind of like the
Henry's speech from Moneyball. Hey, you're threatening lives. You're threatening
the way people do things, and they've always done it
(21:05):
this way. You're threatening live you're threatening jobs. Yeah, Dion's
doing it a different way where it's wait a minute,
Maybe you can be a successful head coach doing it
Dion's way. You don't need to be a guy that
scraps all the way up and becomes a coordinator and
pays his dues and comes in and puts in his
own system. No, you can be someone who, Hey, my
strengths are X, Y and Z, and I have no
problem delegating the rest of it to somebody else. That's
(21:27):
the kind of head coach Aaron Rodgers is going to be.
He's not gonna be a guy that's at the bill
all the time, every single day. But is he going
to delegate. He's gonna be a guy that has the
final call on things. Is he even the guy that
mentally gets the most out of a player, because's gonna
coach them in their head, like Greg Popovich has done,
talked about it during his Hall of Fame speech. That
was a big thing for Popovich. I've always coached the
(21:48):
guys up here. I coach the guys up here. Uh.
That's the kind of head coach he's gonna be. He's
not going to be one of those I'm gonna do
it and just like everybody else know, he's going to
be a new age, new way way to do it.
And it's gonna put the turn of the NFL on
its ear. But he's gonna succeed because he's got the cashet,
he's got the knowledge. Players will flock to him, the
coaches will listen to him. He will give them autonomy
(22:09):
to do what they need to do. That's gonna be
the head coach Aaron Rodgers is and we're gonna go whoaa, whoa.
This completely turns on its ear the impression I've had
of an NFL head coach for basically the last forty years.
All Right, you have the new age guys coming in now,
the Mike McDaniels and the more analytics coaches, and okay,
that's a little bit different, but that's still kind of
a a and evolving of where head coaching is going
(22:32):
and managers where they are in Major League Baseball with analytics,
Rogers is gonna say, hey, this is what you think
of head coaches, watch me be successful, and I'm gonna
do everything one hundred and eighty degrees of how you
think it needs to be done. No.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I dig that you're in that head space, and that's cool.
I think he's more likely to become an alternative healer
like Tobolowski on Seinfeld. Look at me, I'm a mutant
eh and that kind of thing where he builds a
commune and you're coming in and trying his different services
and whatever. The latest thing is the next evolution from ayahuasca.
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But in the interim around the team this year, do
we get to do like we couple them QB one
and one A like you do in a horse race,
right where you've got two horses under the same entry.
So then Zach Wilson doesn't actually have to meet the
media after games. It's all, hey, Aaron, what did Zach
see on that play?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, look, Zach's not here, so I'm gonna tell you
what he saw, all right, Just just look, it's not even.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
The Marshawn Lynch me. I'm here, so I don't get fined.
So legitimately, well we're we're coupled because I kind of
tell him what to do in his answer. So I'm
going to speak for what I thought should have been
the play and should have been the release on this play.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
But but you could see, you could see Roberts. Sure,
it jumps off at you. It jumps off the screen
at you watching him in Hard Knocks, it jumped off
the screen. He looked like the head coach. He looked
like he's got all all the traits you need already
to be the head coach.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
But he also looked like a guy who was like
a little kid reborn. So as much as the coach
thing was there, I think he was just happy to
be with a new set of guys, as well as
the five guys that he brought that were his guys
or ten guys or whatever it is on the roster.
I lost count after a while, but the rest of
it was there's no backstory, there's no history, there's no angst,
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there's no Hey, you didn't show up for offseason workouts.
You didn't threaten to retire on any of them, so
none of them have any animals. Maybe you didn't sign
the footballs that they needed for their kids' birthday parties.
I don't know. Whatever the case is, it's a new roster.
So it felt like, hey, I've got a clean start,
Like you just moved across country, right, you burned it
all down, you sold everything off, and then yeah you
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go and you hide. It's like, didn't you used to beat? Nope, Nope,
you have no idea who I am. That's the Aaron
Rodgers I got out of hard knocks.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I'm telling you. Sometimes sometimes you have to just find
your love of something again, Mike Harmon, Sometimes you go
away and sometimes you take.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Good chance again.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
But look, I'll tell you really quick. When I left
radio to go to NFL network, when I left ESPN
to go to NFL Network. I really wanted to do TV.
I really want to do it, and I needed a break.
I wanted a break from radio. I've done it for
a long time. Kind of frustrating the last couple of
years at ESPN when I was there for a bunch
of different reasons. But I needed a break and and
it was good because after after three years away and
(25:31):
and doing TV and doing that, I'm like, Okay, TV's
kind of fun, but boy, I really miss you know,
because I was a host. I'm like, I really miss
giving my opinions as much as I used to. I
kind of missed that.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Sot me to have a couple of jackasses that you
needed to be away from, you know, you know you said,
and it brought you me for a decade either way.
You also compared yourself to Rogers.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, and now I get I get pork shoulder and
I and I get brisket and coffee and everything else.
Now and you'll find your love. And if I find,
I really want to get back to that. That's what
I really love to do. And that's how he's got
that love again. Jets head coach Aaron Rodgers get used
to it. Yeah, you Jets head coach Aaron Rodgs gets.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
You comparing yourself to Rogers.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
And any staged a bloodless coup on Robert sullen in
Aaron Rodgers, you're gonna leave, right, yeah, Robert, Yeah, you'd
like to be my DC, right Yeah, after a couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Here, what's next, Jason? You're gonna beg us to take
pictures of you like Rogers?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
No, come on, I mad, No, No, I'm going you know,
I'll take you to a darkness retreat, lock the door
and leave you there. That's what I'm gonna do. I
got dark it's supposed to be. It's a darkness retreat.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, no, no, that's why I used the term I did.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
It would be a lot worse if you stayed, so, yeah,
I would. I would hope you'd leave me.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
There.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, joining us now on the hotline, there is no
one better to break down everything going on in the NFL. Well,
let's see, he had the Aaron Rodgers news, he had
the Travis Kelcey news. I don't mean the Taylor Swift
Travis Kelsey news. He had the Travis Kelsey news. Aaron
Rodgers and he's the new backup quarterback for the Jets.
It is longtime NFL inside of You can follo him
(27:14):
on Twitter at Schultz Underscore Report. Front of the Show
Jordan Schultz, Hey, Jay, congratulations man. Hopefully you get to
play a little bit against the Cowboys on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
A lot of plagure, guys. You know, it's it's a
great time of the year. Man. I gotta tell you
this week one, week two, it's it's it doesn't get
much better.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Well okay, yeah, okay. Remember I'm a Jet fan.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Remember I'm not I'm not talking about the Jets this
on this show.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I just won't do it.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I kidding, can't do it.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Won't do it. Right. Look, let's go forward here a
little bit, because you had the bit that the Jets
called out to Chad Henny. Let's let's move this Aaron
Rodgers thing forward here. Zach Wilson is the starter. They're
gonna go get another quarterback fill in the blank for me.
The quarterback the Jets are going to go get.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Is who it's gonna be so I don't. I don't
know exactly who yet. I know they narrow down their search.
They started, you know, a wider net, that narrowed it down.
The bottom line is what they're looking for is someone
who is a veteran quarterback that can not threaten Zach
Wilson as the new QB one, but who can help
(28:21):
bring him along, help stabilize what's not a very you know,
sable situation, and also somebody understands his purpose. I think
the reason.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I've had a few people ask, you know, why why
wouldn't they go after another you know, young up and
comer to push that, and I think the reason is
just because we're only two years removed from them spending
a number two pick on him. And part of the
reason why they brought an Aaron Rodgers obviously not.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
The only reason, but part of it was because they
wanted to have him learn from one of the greatest
of all time and make no mistakes, there has been
a lot of progressor Zach Wilson internally. I think, you know,
the relationship with Rogers is real.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
They they have really.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Connected and I think Aaron's helped them. And obviously we
didn't think we see Zach Wilson for a couple more years.
That now changes significantly. But with that in mind, they
are looking for a veteran quarterback. Maybe it's a Chad Henny,
maybe it's the Carson Wentz, someone that won't necessarily push
Wilson for the number one job, but that can help
stabilize situation.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Joe Namath, Okay, if it's gonna be Joe names act,
you tell me veterans. So hey, so you know the
other part of today, Rogers says he wants to come back.
He's going to rise again. Right, I'm gonna rise again.
Robert Sala said today, Hey, I fully exceed. You know, look,
he wants to come back. I'd be shocked. We're retired.
I get all of this, But as a Jet fan,
(29:49):
you know, look, I'm Positive'm a guy who's gonna tell you.
I think the Jets are still gonna win ten games
this year, They're still gonna get in the playoffs. But
Rogers coming back. I think there's just as much a
chance that Zach Wilson or an another quarterback starting next
year as it is Rogers. Because thirty nine Achilles. You
just don't know, and guys don't come back and play
very well when they have an injury like this, when
(30:10):
they're talking about being forty years old.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Yeah, it's the most devastating, debilitating injury that a pro
athlete can have. And you really don't know. It's the mental,
it's the physical, it's the emotional, There's so much that
goes into it. I love that he posted that. I
don't know what it means other than that, I think
he wants to stay involved with the team and more
specifically with Zach. We'll have to see what happens with surgery.
(30:36):
But listen, they you're talking about fast forwarding. The ideal
situation now for the Jets is that Dak Wilson grabs
the bole by the horns and showcases why he was
an All American at EYU, why he wasn't number two pick,
why he was called more than the homes. I mean,
the guy has talent. But when you're talking about this roster,
(30:57):
you know they have done. I give Joe Douglas, like Freddy,
I think he's done a really good job of developing
the roster with the secondary is terrific, specifically with Red
and you know Sauce. They bring in Amos, you know
they have a white Head that's three interceptions in the
first game. They have young pass rushers Romaine Johnson, you
(31:20):
saw it as DA, a couple of TFLs. They have
Clinton Williams. Defensively, they're loaded, and then offensively they've done
a really nice job as well. I think Greese Hall
really like We talked a lot about Rogers that night
for obvious reasons, but briefs Hall looked like the briefs
Hall we saw before the injury, and that's a huge plus.
(31:40):
So to me, when I think about the Jets this
year with Dak Wilson, I think they'll they're probably pushing
the playoffs because of the roster. I think the defense
will keep them in games. But you do have to wonder.
Let's let's say hypothetically they go three and three, two
and four, they start off slow, would they consider making
move for someone I'm not reporting this, but I'm just saying,
(32:03):
would it makes sense for them hypothetically to go after
someone like a Ryan Tannehill that's feasible to get potentially
so that they can turn the season around. Because right
now they're saying, and this is what I've been told,
we want a veteran who's going to help Zack not
push that. But if he doesn't play well and they
go three and three and they're not looking at the playoffs,
maybe that changes.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
So Jordan, one of the guy's name always comes up
when it there's a big injury and change. You got
a text message from Colin Kaepernick that just said, quote,
I just need a shot. Now we're forty eight hours
removed and it doesn't look like that's happening. But you
know when you get that text, what rolls through your
head in terns of how that flows.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
It's so interesting because you know Colin I've known for
a long time, probably probably six seven years since and
he hasn't played in seven years, so it's really once
he's once he retired Russians, he retired once. He once
he stopped playing. And we talked at lengths yesterday and
I just said, you know, how you doing. Have you
heard from anyone? We started talking and he said, you know,
(33:07):
we've we've reached out to the Jets, And I thought
that was really interesting because his name does percolate whenever
a team really needs a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
He's thirty six. He's basically been in La working out
the last couple of years and all he wanted a chance, right,
and I just you know, I would love to see
him get that chance. I know there's people that are
going to disagree with me, but I would love to
see it, just selfishly as a football fan. You know,
he worked out for the Raiders last year. I know
that he looked fine. I think that that was the
(33:39):
word they used.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
He was.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
He was fine, he was good. But I'd be surprised,
quite honestly, if if the Raider, if the Jets went
after Cap. But I can tell you that we've talked
a lot today and yesterday, and I can't think of
anybody that wants to shop more, you know, I mean,
he really does. He basically he related to me earlier today,
(34:03):
was you know, I just worst I could get a workout,
because if I go in and I think, then then
then I know I think, and they would know as well.
But I just want to work out. I just want
a chance. And I said, I hear you, I understand.
I just don't know if it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Jordan Schultz with us here, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Livethetirac
dot Com Studios. Big stuff there. You can follow Jordan
on Twitter as well at Schultz Underscore Report. All right,
so as we move on now to the rest of
the the the league that we see coming off a
week one into week two, I want to hit you
with the dealer's choice right now because three of the
guys that I saw you talking about a lot that
(34:40):
impressed you the most in week one were Bijon Robinson,
Calvin Ridley, and Brendan Ayuk. Give me the guy that
impressed you the most out of those you love the
all three of those guys.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Oh man, but you got to give me one.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I gotta choose your favorite child, be honest.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
You know what, I'm gonna go with the rook I'm
gonna go with John Robinson. I thought he was electric, man.
I mean like, I'm not surprised, but to see it,
to see it at that level, and you know, Carolina
had some guys on that defense to including Brian Burns,
Derek Derek Brown. They have they have some players, man,
(35:20):
Frankluvu and Be'sjohn Robinson. Just I think I said on Twitter,
he's the truth. The guy is the truth. I think
he has a chance to legally in rushing. I think
he has the chance to be the next truly trendsend
there running back. And what I was told early on
when they drafted him was that they were going to
use him all over the field. And you hear that.
(35:41):
You heard that with Jamir Gibbs in Detroit, But to
see it is a different story. And you know, I
like Arthur Smid the head coach. I think he's innovative,
and I think his commitment to the run games says
a lot. And uh, you know, they they I don't
know how Allan is going to be this year. I
want to assume that they'll be better, and they have
a lot of young talent off but seeing Bejon Robinson,
(36:02):
seeing his speed and his cuts, the way he catches
the football, I mean his touchdown, he's just different. You know,
someone that big and that physical should not be able
to move with that type of agility. He's just a
different style. And uh, man, I think the Unicorns.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I'll just wait for the Tyler all jeer love and
if they actually done, yeah, it'll be dangerous.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
And honestly, I think you're looking at it because listen,
they they were second in the league in rush attempts
last year and when Ritter started, they averaged thirty six
rushes the game, I believe it was, which was the
first in the league by far. So we know they're
going to run the ball right, But you have those
two bats Algier terrific. I think you're looking at a
(36:47):
situation where Bjhon's going to get twenty touches a week
in Algiers and he gets fifteen seventeen, and I see
no problem with that. And that's going to open up
the play accident for Ritter, that's going to help Kyle Pitts,
that's gonna help Drake London. So I'm fascinated by the offense.
But honestly, Vijhon Robinson is Yeah, he's the guy.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, that's why I picked them to win the division.
All right, Now, your dealer's choice, which is the bigger story,
Dak and the Cowboys rising to a level of prominence
or the absolute no show effort of your New York
Football Giants, And by yours, I mean all of ours.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Yes, Okay, I'm gonna go Dak because he led the
league in interceptions last year, and honestly, it's not who
he was and has been throughout his career. Go back
to his days Mississippi State, Go back to his days.
You know, his first five six years in the league,
he didn't turn the ball over very much. So part
(37:40):
of that was on him, of course, but it was
also on the fact that I think he felt like
he had to win more games. Dallas's defense was unbelievable.
I'm not saying they're going to be that good every week,
but what they did since its dismantled New York, who
I think is a playoff team, was sensational. And I
talked to Dan Quoyn afterwards that the the DC the
(38:01):
message hees relates to me the last few months is
you know, last year was great, this year is gonna
be better. We have so much talent, We're so diverse
in how we can use that talent and deploy everyone.
And I mean Parsons is generational, like he is a
transcendent freak. So I was just blown away by Dallas
on both sides of the ball. I think the guy
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that probably impressed me the most was Tony Pollard because
he has and comes off with essentially a broken leg
eight months ago and he looked as good as anyone.
I mean, he is a bel cow. They don't have
another guy that's gonna get fifteen carries, and so to
see him, I think I use the term over the offseason.
He's more of a Ferrari, you know, like you wonder
(38:46):
with him. Can you use him every day of the week?
Can you use him in the snow? Is he that
physical of the back? I saw everything I needed to see.
I was really impressed with Tony Pollard and as a whole,
with Dak Prescott. I mean, the defense was incredible, but
offensively they look good and obviously Mike McCarthy's falling the plays. No,
Kellen Moore, I thought there would be a learning curve,
(39:07):
and at least in one game there wasn't.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
All right, Lastly, let me give you this. You just
gave us a big surprise and the positive the Cowboys
and how now it's a super Bowl or bust year
for them. What's your biggest surprise from week one? That,
oh boy, this player, this team has problems. And if
the Seahawks that's okay, this player this week they got
more problems.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Yes, I was gonna say, I was going to say
Seattle in a sense that I have such high expectations
for them, and you guys know I'm from Seattle. I mean,
I listen. I met my wife in a Seahawk game.
I've been going to Seahawk games in the Kingdome since
I was three years old, so I have allegiances to
that city, to that team. But I was really surprised.
Now they struggle against the Rams traditionally, but that's not
(39:49):
the Seattle we saw last year, so I want to
see them bounce back in a big way. The Giants
as well. I would say the Chargers defense, to me
was concerning in the sense that Miami was unstoppable and
I think Miami's offense is going to be elite all year,
but the Chargers defense, like, there's no reason to me
(40:11):
why they can't be a top ten defense on paper.
So to see them get shredded like that was surprising.
I'd be curious for you guys, like, I don't know
how much he saw the Miami game, but Tua looks
so comfortable. I didn't see enough to pass rush. That
would probably be the concern.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Well, Jordan Frostburg's got his ear mufs on, you know,
Charger producing badcast. He may never book you for the
show again. I mean this may be your last.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
It was, you know, it went through my mind as
as I've been here a few days later. You know,
I was thinking, if I bring up the fact that
the Chargers defense struggled, what's that going to do? But offensively,
Miami's got the players now defensively, so I was actually
blown away by by their offense. I mean, I think
(40:57):
that's what we're going to see all year. But I listen.
I mean there's a lot of pressure. There's a lot
of pressure on that on that defense, on Brandon Staley,
who's a defensive guy. I want to see it, man,
I want to see it because they have a ton
of talent.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
All right, So so now let me finish with this.
I know I said lastly, but so, did you propose
to your wife in a Seahawks game, like after a
Steve Largent touchdown? Like tell me you did it?
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Like mid Wow, you you aged him very much there.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
I'm not that, although I do love. No, we actually
met at a Seahawk game in college and we try
to go back once a year for a game, and
we know I did not propose there. But you know,
when you meet your wife at a Seahawks game on
you know, on the field, and you've been going to
the Kingdome and my whole life growing up. They were terrible.
(41:46):
You know, we did not have playoff teams. We're barely
five hundred. John Kittna was our best quarterback. Bro uh
mirror Rick Meyer, I mean a terrible quarterback.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
So for me, the Seahawks hold hold a special place,
and I gotta tell you, watching them loose to the
Rams like that, I was. I was really surprised. And
again I have allegiances, but I also am am. I
guess you can say if I could step away thirty
thousand square feet or thirty thousand feet, I was. I
was disappointed. I know it can be better.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
He's on Twitter at Jordan Underscore Schultz. That's at Jordan
Underscore Schultz. A long time NFL inside to check him
out again the big week he had with Roger's story.
Travis Kelsey, we'll get to Taylor Swift next week with
you. You know, I know you're gonna do some digging on that.
But dude, as always, thanks so much for staying up
late with us. Man appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
Have fun, guys, always a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Thank you, see you Jordan
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week one and week two in the NF fell and
we found out much like the undertaker Aaron Rodgers plans
to rise, he will rise again as he says on Instagram,
I will rise from the ashes. I will rise again.
He's going to rise, He's gonna run.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Now he's either trying to channel his inner Frankenstein's monster
because it was doctor Frankenstein, or is it Frankenstein Frankenstein Frankenstein. Yeah,
so we got that going, or you know, you go
Biblical and you got Lazarus, or you got you got
Jesus himself. I mean, what about the Jesus? Yes, how
(01:39):
you know I.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Go WWE, which you love the WWE, and you go
everywhere else but the WWE. What I mean, I give
you a fastball down the middle, and you said, Nope,
I don't want this fastball down. Give me some kind
of crazy ass curve that's off the plate that I'm
gonna wave at like your Darryl Strawberry. Just give me
something like that. I gave you what. I gave you,
an undertaker fastball down the That was good.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
But I'm you're you're the one that loves to do
the personal pringle rev you know, impression.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Exactly the ashes of Zach Wilson here in this herd.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
No No, no, yeah, because I think of him when he
was you know, from an earlier incarnation of Perceval Pringle
the Third when he was at World Class Championship Wrestling
and running around with the Texas Drawl and everything against
the von Erics. So you know the the many stages
for you, you like, you know, the urn and and
all of that imagery, and maybe that's it. I saw
(02:35):
a great meme of Aaron Rodgers head over the young
Forrest Gump when he was getting fitted for his leg braces, so.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
That was good. Yeah. Yeah, I'd give him my achilles
if I could, if it would work. I get watch,
I give him my dad's achilles first, because my dad
doesn't really need it, but then I give him mine
if I need it.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Is no good, I'll give it good. And I've seen
you run that's no good.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
But although, although when you're not thinking about it, when
when you're actually just reacting like you did after that
punt return, Oh yeah, when I ran up and that
was the most explosive legwork you've ever done.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I was explosive. I was really I also think I
pulled something in one of my arches on my right
foot when I did that, But that's okay. It was
worth it, you know what.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I got a couple of sessions left on the cryo
therapy package that I bought. So you know, if you
want to come down to Redondo Beach, we'll set you
up and you can go get the negative two fifty treatment.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh nice, I dig that. I dig that guy. What
are you doing? Cryotherapy? What happened was it? Was it? Yeah? Well,
the Jets won and I ran up and down the
hallway too fast, and what happened? I took like three
steps and all of a sudden, I don't know what happened,
but my arch didn't feel good. So three steps after
the Jets won. Yeah, okay, I haven't heard that before.
Com on, just sticks that up.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
But you know what, if you said that and you
were in Wisconsin, they were thinking you were fleeing that
bar without paying your tab. So it all comes full circle.
But you know, certainly the Rogers statement and the indication
and you know, vow that he will return from this,
it's great fodder here forty eight hours after the fact.
(04:07):
I mean, what the hell is he gonna say? Yeah,
I'm done. The training's gonna be too hard, it's too
many hours. I got other concert tours. I mean, Taylor's
gonna be in Europe next year, so I'm thinking of
going to a few of those dates. And you know,
Olivia Rodrigo just announced her Guts tour, so I gotta
go follow that around. No, he's not gonna say any
(04:28):
of that. He's gonna say no, I'm coming back, and
I'm coming back with a vengeance to get revenge on the.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Turf From Instagram. The night is darkest before the dawn Batman,
I shall rise.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yet, who the hell does he think he is?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I shall rise, he rise. He's Aaron Rodgers, He's the Undertaker.
He will rise again.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
He can't even walk on water right now?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Well, that's what I mean. He'll rise again.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
At some point that he said, mister Wayne, I have
no desire to spend the rest of them.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
So are they gonna burn him? Is that what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I can't bury another Batman.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
People are just gonna light him on fire and then
he's gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Buried so many whatever it takes him to come back.
If you could light his achilles on fire, they're gonna
play on Sunday against the Cowboys. We'll light that achilles
on fire. Doesn't work that way, yeah, right now, the
other thing of strikes.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I mean, we can't put that into production, that whole
thing you're trying to put out there Fronsburg. Yeah, I
mean that would have to be a non union You'd
have to get a bunch of permits and uh, you.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Know, well, but you Aaron Rodgers on fire. Yeah, I
gotta get it.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I gotta get an exemption from the union.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Where do you want to do it? Century City, Hollywood
sign where Dody. I'll let you do wherever you want
to do.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Come on, that's only appropriate.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Now Here's now this is that you know I'm being
real when I say this, because you know what, of
course I want Aaron Rodgers to come back and everything,
and I got stars in my eyes about twenty twenty four,
Rogers says I'll rise again. Here's Robert solid. Jets head
coach Day was asked about the retirement question for Aaron Rodgers,
and Robert Salas said, well, I don't quite see. Take
a listen, I'd be shocked if he's if this is
(06:02):
the way he's going to go out. But at the
same time, for him, he's working through a whole lot
of headspace things that he needs to deal with, and
that will be the last thing I've talked to him about.
This falls under the category of course he's going to
come try to come back. Of course Rogers wants to
continue to play, of course, and this falls under my
category of I hear you, but sure. I mean, look,
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on the night of the injury, we talked about it.
Aaron Rodgers is thirty nine years old, and this is
a torn achilles. This is a horrendous injury to have
to go through. We've seen quarterbacks go through Achilles injuries
and come back and be close to what they were before,
but not quite what they were before. We've never seen
someone this age go through that kind of torn When
(06:48):
it happened, if any Testaverity, because it happened to Jet
you every twenty years happens to the Jets. So in
twenty years, Jordan Love, it's going to happen to you.
Get ready what happened at Testaverity. He came back, he
played a few more years, but he was never really
the same. He was kind of a get by guy.
He was never the passor he was in nineteen ninety eight.
The grueling rehab that Rogers is going to have to
go through at the age of thirty nine is really difficult,
(07:11):
especially when now he's trying to figure stuff out. I
don't doubt he's gonna try. I don't doubt that he's
not gonna sit here and go oh that first day, yeah,
I took three steps. I can't do it. You know,
like when you decide you're gonna start working out and
you get in the treadmill and you go for like
thirty seconds to go yeah, yeah, I'm winded, I'm done.
I gonna slow down, slow down, off, and I'm off. No,
he's going to give it a go. But is he
really gonna be able to come back and be the guy?
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Is he gonna be able to plant and throw the
ball like he used to? Is he gonna be able
to be the same quarterback? Is he gonna have to
be a crafty quarterback where hey, we gotta hide what
he can and can't do. That's the big question. So
if you told me is Aaron Rodgers gonna play for
the Jets. There's so many people today that have said
he's under center next year. He's under center week one.
Next year, he's under center week one. When they get
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to training camp, he's coming back. You're gonna see it.
The best thing I can tell you is, man, I
have no idea. I mean, I can't tell you he's
gonna come back. In fact, if I had to lead
one way or the other, I would say maybe his Jets'
career is four plays. Maybe it's four plays, because you
could say, yes, I want to do all these things
and the mind is great, but is the body there
(08:14):
for it? And Rogers is someone who has never really
had to go crazy working out getting ready. Got Look
what he doesn't. He doesn't play in preseason games. He
hadn't played in preseason games in a long time. He
had a little bit of a calf tweaked during training camp.
Of what happened, it blew out on and when he
tried to just go full tilt the first time he
tried to do it. So what's his body like? It
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sounds great, I mean, and I'd love to see it. It
sounds great for Robert Solid to say there's no way
he's work. There's stuff, and Aaron Rodgers tweeter I'm gonna try. Yes,
of course he's gonna try. But what people don't, what
people are forgetting is that bodies don't listen to sports
talk radio and bodies don't get on Twitter. Right, Aaron
Rodgers left leg is not logging onto social media going
I'm gonna come back. I gotta make sure he doesn't
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work that way, does not work that way. He is
thirty nine years old, coming off a devastating injury in
which Aaron Rodgers was hoping to get close to the
guy that was maybe a top ten periphery quarterback in
the NFL. Now, is he comes back, if he is
an average quarterback, he's somebody that's going to hey, well,
he's got the slyness, but that's not gonna be enough
(09:17):
because if he can't make the throws, you can't make
the throws. Can he still throw off his back foot,
still being able to throw a side him? Can he
do all of these things? I know I want to
be that guy. Right. I'm the one that told you
last night Jets are going to the playoffs this year.
They're gonna win ten games, are going to the playoffs.
The roster is loaded. Is Aaron Rodgers gonna play man?
I'll tell you I don't know. I can't tell you. Yes,
the other guy. It sounds great and I want to
(09:37):
be full of that fire and brimstone and positivity when
it comes to it. But I gotta be realistic, man,
And there's just as much a chance that Zach Wilson
or somebody else is playing quarterback next year for the
Jets Week one, then it is Aaron Rodgers. If Wilson
plays well this year, it'll be the same thing. Wilson
will come back starting. If Rogers is healthy, you'll play,
(09:59):
if not at Zach Wilson. If Zach Wilson stinks, then
it's gonna be somebody else they're gonna sign to come
in that could potentially start. Because you can't trust that
Aaron Rodgers is going to start. There is just as
much a chance it's somebody else that it's Aaron Rodgers.
I can't sit here and tell you, oh, yeah, he
says it, he's coming back. Yeah. I get he wants to,
but it's not really up to him. It's up to
his body. It's up to where. It's up to what
(10:19):
he can do and what happens when you start rehabbing
and getting back to this and after the surgery, whoever
the surgery goes. There's just too many variables. And I
hate to say it because you know me, I want
to be that positive guy. I want to see hear
it and say, hey, buy your Aaron Rodgers gear keeping
it's great. I can't do it, Mike, I can't. Yeah,
I'm on the positivity side of Hey. I like when
the guys continue to play when they're older. That means
(10:41):
I haven't aged out completely. Right.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
When Brady hung him up, I had to throw stuff
against the wall. I was kind of pissed because now
I was that much older than the next guy that's
behind him, and we've got Rogers there. And while for
me it was gonna be a very conflicted year with
him under center, you know, as much as you know
you're my best friend and all, I kind of needed
(11:05):
them to struggle. But it's also not a really good story.
If they're nine and eight, nobody cares, right, So they
were gonna have to be great or fail spectacularly. And
now it's the intrigue of all, right, what is this
team now? But going forward? Does Zach Wilson show you
enough towards like, we love you, Aaron, but we do
need to move on because you're gonna be forty right,
(11:28):
and holding and pressing pause on this and then wishing
and hoping not only is he able to come back?
But how much do you fear an other injury? You know,
maybe unrelated, but because of the pressure, what your what,
you start to favor all of those kind of things
that it adds up. Right, We look at look at
(11:49):
Lebron James. He was indestructible and we joked about it
for years, you and I he's a cyborg. Well, now
that the champ is hurt, he's cut like Drago the Russian.
He's cut so little, little injuries pile up. So the
same thing here is that the fear is this becomes
the beginning of an end, even if you were able
to make it back. That it's Aaron Rodgers in spirit,
(12:13):
but certainly not the player we remember. So you know,
I'll root for it, for age and for guys to
battle back off injuries. You hate to see it where
he carries the flag and then four plays later he's
being carted off. That's about as bad as it gets.
So we want that story of redemption because if nothing else,
we get a movie out of it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I tell you, just as good a chance as anybody
I want to do it, just as good a chance
at Zach Wilson or Caleb Williams something that's just saying
someone else.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
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Speaker 1 (12:47):
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(13:10):
Aaron Rodgers of this show, Harmon is the Chase Claypool
of this show. So you're I'm sorry to not Chase Claypool.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Now, I was the only one with the guts to
name him and finally.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Out on the field.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's true. Well I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I won't be for long if you're to believe anything.
I mean, even eber Flu saying I don't know. We
got to look into that. Yeah, he backed Frostberry. You
just wait, man, you wait until somebody gets you.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Just wait.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
What are you gonna say? Put it out there?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Come on, dare you tempting fate. Just keep tempting fate.
Just keep doing it, Just keep doing it, Just keep
doing it, Just keep tempting.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Seventy five seconds, Jason.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You watch, you watch. That's gonna be the title of
Aaron Rodgers year with the Jets. Seventy five seconds.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
That's the title of your book.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Rich Semini's right now book, Seventy five seconds. Aaron Rodgers
I thinks gonna have lasted longer than Rogers twenty three seasons.
Seventy five seconds. Now, I'm gonna give you a really
big Bowl prediction on Rogers here in a second, but
obviously today for Rogers. Look, we're still in the after effect.
This is day three of Aaron Rodgers out for the season.
(14:20):
Uh puts on an Instagram post, He's gonna rise yet again.
Robert Salaz says, I fully expect him to try to
come back and play. Be shocked if be retired. But
a bigger thing to take this on conversation in a
different direction is we really want him around the team.
I'm hoping when he is ready, he can come back
and be around us. And right now he's working through
stuff and Rogers is trying to figure out what's next.
(14:42):
He has not scheduled a date for surgery. He's still
trying to figure out just how he wants to go forward,
still dealing with the fact that, hey, guess what, you're
not playing football at all this year, and who knows
if you get to play football again. At some point,
the Jets are gonna want him back around. And I'll
tell you this much, he is absolutely one gonna be
a huge presence on the Jets sideline the entire season.
(15:03):
When he decides to, it's probably not gonna be this week.
The Jets have to learn to get along without him
a little bit. You know. Bill Parcells had this big
quote he never wanted injured players around the team because
he never wanted a reminder of who's not there. But
Rodgers has become such a presence and he's instilled the
Jets with a belief in themselves, Hey we can win.
We got eight now that just him being around is
(15:26):
going to help. Just be able to pick his brain
is gonna help. You saw during Hard Knocks it Garrett
Wilson Sauce Gardner couldn't get enough of hanging out with
a guy and hearing him talk football, and Zach Wilson
says amazing things about Aaron Rodgers. He's helping me here,
He's helped me with this. The Jets are gonna have
him around, and trust me, he's gonna be on the
sideline right next to right next to Robert Sala, you know,
(15:47):
on the headset with Nathaniel Hackett getting game plans ready.
It will almost seem like he's playing, except he's not
going to be. The cameras will cut to him all
the time during games. He is going to be extremely
visible on the Jets. Do you think we haven't seen
Rodge again?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Uh. You're gonna see him all over the television, partly
because he likes the attention, and he's not gonna be
not around football for a whole year. Look, I'll tell
you the truth. The guy's not gonna know what to
do with himself. He's gonna be I gotta find some way.
But you will see him every single Sunday. He will
be there. He'll be a very visible member of the Jets.
They're still gonna talk to him after games during the
(16:23):
week leading up to it. He is gonna be a
huge presence and it's gonna be a good thing for
the Jets even though he's injured that he's around.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Trust me, yeah, he intrigues me in that regard of
like what role does he take on? You know, is
he go to Hacket and just say get out of
the way. I am the captain now right, the pupil
has become the master beat it. We don't need you anymore.
Sean Payton was right. I don't know all of that
could come down, but Robert Sala I think it would
be to his detriment because we you know, everybody would
(16:52):
recognize what you and I have all along. Aaron Rodgers
is the coach of this team. Now it's not just
I am the cat, no, no, no, I am, It's
my squad. But the curiosity in the relationship with Zach
Wilson is just remembering that, you know, with Zach Wilson
for all of the collegiate accolades, it's been a rough
(17:13):
transition thus far. I think we can all stipulate to that.
And even in this last game, a couple of big throws,
one that looks like a great three yard TD pass
because of what Garrett Wilson was able to do. But
otherwise it's gonna be He's gonna face a lot of
zone defenses, and you're gonna really have to lean on
Haul and Cook to keep things flowing right.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So how much do you do you lean back.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Into where Aaron Rodgers, you know, is in his ear,
Because it's one thing to throw a deep ball and
get your fifty seven yard completion in a preseason game
where the only consequence is damn, that didn't work, whereas
now it's, oh, we just gave up field position, position,
and we gave the ball and turned it over in
our territory or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Right, So those kind of things to.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Where maybe the old adage of the superstar coming in
over the coach and then expecting them to be able
to replicate what you've done all your career, the potential
for chaos is there. As for the just general influence, yeah,
I mean, you see what all the young guys are posting,
and you.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Know their heart broken to not work with them.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's really a curious like he came in and like
the speech he gave in Denver and everything else. Now
he's like a guru that came in and brought them
to some other level of consciousness and confidence at the
pro level. So you want to have that positivity, positivity around,
but there's also that fear that now we're still talking
(18:45):
about the backup quarterback a lot on game data. Is
that a help or a hindrance in the long run.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think the more to button this, the more that
he can take the pressure off of Zach Wilson, I
think the better it is. If we're talking about keeping
Zach Wilson out of the out of any extra exposure
to the spotlight that would probably be detrimental for him.
He can suck up some of that energy and let
the guys just go play. I mean, he's gonna be
(19:12):
He's gonna be a positive influence on the team for
all of those reasons. And while you see him there
and again, I know we've gotten into this a little
bit before, but I'm telling you sooner rather than later,
and maybe it's with the Jets in a couple of years.
Aaron Rodgers is going to be an NFL head coach.
He will if he wants to be, he will go.
But here's the thing. He will go right from playing
(19:34):
to being an NFL head coach. You see it in
Hard Knocks, the relationship he has with the players, the
instant Cachet. Young guys just in the league a year
want to come up and glean any kind of information
they can from him. Garrett Wilson Sauce gardener, anybody, what
do you got? What do you got? What do you got?
Zach Wilson, what do you got? What do you got?
The coaches love him, right he may You saw him
on the sidelines during during hard knocks. He looked like
(19:56):
the head coach then. But the knowledge that he has the.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Own drugs and tea especially, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean you want to go anyway. He's gonna be
your guy for ayahuasca one hundred percent. But it's I
see where you're going. Your question is gonna be, yeah,
if he wants. He's got a lot of other stuff
going on. He likes to you know, he likes his
own time to go do different things. And is he
really gonna have it in him to be a guy
that shows up at the at Florham Park or wherever
he's going at eight o'clock in the morning and leaving
(20:24):
at nine o'clock at night. But here's the thing, he
will be one of those New Age New Way success
stories that will blow out of the water. What you
think about what an NFL head coach needs to be.
And do you think I'm wrong? Look at Deon Sanders
with Colorado. Deon Sanders shows up. Does Deon Sanders have
a great system? No, he hired a guy with a
(20:44):
great system. Deon rides around in a golf cart, you know,
shouting out instructions. In practice, he talks to guys and
he and he's able to recruit already, the number one
quarterback recruit in the country wants to look at Colorado
after what he's done. Dion is doing it in a
non popular way, and I was kind of like the
Henry's speech from Moneyball. Hey, you're threatening lives. You're threatening
the way people do things, and they've always done it
(21:05):
this way. You're threatening live you're threatening jobs. Yeah, Dion's
doing it a different way where it's wait a minute,
Maybe you can be a successful head coach doing it
Dion's way. You don't need to be a guy that
scraps all the way up and becomes a coordinator and
pays his dues and comes in and puts in his
own system. No, you can be someone who, Hey, my
strengths are X, Y and Z, and I have no
problem delegating the rest of it to somebody else. That's
(21:27):
the kind of head coach Aaron Rodgers is going to be.
He's not gonna be a guy that's at the bill
all the time, every single day. But is he going
to delegate. He's gonna be a guy that has the
final call on things. Is he even the guy that
mentally gets the most out of a player, because's gonna
coach them in their head, like Greg Popovich has done,
talked about it during his Hall of Fame speech. That
was a big thing for Popovich. I've always coached the
(21:48):
guys up here. I coach the guys up here. Uh.
That's the kind of head coach he's gonna be. He's
not going to be one of those I'm gonna do
it and just like everybody else know, he's going to
be a new age, new way way to do it.
And it's gonna put the turn of the NFL on
its ear. But he's gonna succeed because he's got the cashet,
he's got the knowledge. Players will flock to him, the
coaches will listen to him. He will give them autonomy
(22:09):
to do what they need to do. That's gonna be
the head coach Aaron Rodgers is and we're gonna go whoaa, whoa.
This completely turns on its ear the impression I've had
of an NFL head coach for basically the last forty years.
All Right, you have the new age guys coming in now,
the Mike McDaniels and the more analytics coaches, and okay,
that's a little bit different, but that's still kind of
a a and evolving of where head coaching is going
(22:32):
and managers where they are in Major League Baseball with analytics,
Rogers is gonna say, hey, this is what you think
of head coaches, watch me be successful, and I'm gonna
do everything one hundred and eighty degrees of how you
think it needs to be done. No.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I dig that you're in that head space, and that's cool.
I think he's more likely to become an alternative healer
like Tobolowski on Seinfeld. Look at me, I'm a mutant
eh and that kind of thing where he builds a
commune and you're coming in and trying his different services
and whatever. The latest thing is the next evolution from ayahuasca.
(23:04):
But in the interim around the team this year, do
we get to do like we couple them QB one
and one A like you do in a horse race,
right where you've got two horses under the same entry.
So then Zach Wilson doesn't actually have to meet the
media after games. It's all, hey, Aaron, what did Zach
see on that play?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, look, Zach's not here, so I'm gonna tell you
what he saw, all right, Just just look, it's not even.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
The Marshawn Lynch me. I'm here, so I don't get fined.
So legitimately, well we're we're coupled because I kind of
tell him what to do in his answer. So I'm
going to speak for what I thought should have been
the play and should have been the release on this play.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
But but you could see, you could see Roberts. Sure,
it jumps off at you. It jumps off the screen
at you watching him in Hard Knocks, it jumped off
the screen. He looked like the head coach. He looked
like he's got all all the traits you need already
to be the head coach.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
But he also looked like a guy who was like
a little kid reborn. So as much as the coach
thing was there, I think he was just happy to
be with a new set of guys, as well as
the five guys that he brought that were his guys
or ten guys or whatever it is on the roster.
I lost count after a while, but the rest of
it was there's no backstory, there's no history, there's no angst,
(24:25):
there's no Hey, you didn't show up for offseason workouts.
You didn't threaten to retire on any of them, so
none of them have any animals. Maybe you didn't sign
the footballs that they needed for their kids' birthday parties.
I don't know. Whatever the case is, it's a new roster.
So it felt like, hey, I've got a clean start,
Like you just moved across country, right, you burned it
all down, you sold everything off, and then yeah you
(24:48):
go and you hide. It's like, didn't you used to beat? Nope, Nope,
you have no idea who I am. That's the Aaron
Rodgers I got out of hard knocks.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I'm telling you. Sometimes sometimes you have to just find
your love of something again, Mike Harmon, Sometimes you go
away and sometimes you take.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Good chance again.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
But look, I'll tell you really quick. When I left
radio to go to NFL network, when I left ESPN
to go to NFL Network. I really wanted to do TV.
I really want to do it, and I needed a break.
I wanted a break from radio. I've done it for
a long time. Kind of frustrating the last couple of
years at ESPN when I was there for a bunch
of different reasons. But I needed a break and and
it was good because after after three years away and
(25:31):
and doing TV and doing that, I'm like, Okay, TV's
kind of fun, but boy, I really miss you know,
because I was a host. I'm like, I really miss
giving my opinions as much as I used to. I
kind of missed that.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Sot me to have a couple of jackasses that you
needed to be away from, you know, you know you said,
and it brought you me for a decade either way.
You also compared yourself to Rogers.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, and now I get I get pork shoulder and
I and I get brisket and coffee and everything else.
Now and you'll find your love. And if I find,
I really want to get back to that. That's what
I really love to do. And that's how he's got
that love again. Jets head coach Aaron Rodgers get used
to it. Yeah, you Jets head coach Aaron Rodgs gets.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
You comparing yourself to Rogers.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
And any staged a bloodless coup on Robert sullen in
Aaron Rodgers, you're gonna leave, right, yeah, Robert, Yeah, you'd
like to be my DC, right Yeah, after a couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Here, what's next, Jason? You're gonna beg us to take
pictures of you like Rogers?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
No, come on, I mad, No, No, I'm going you know,
I'll take you to a darkness retreat, lock the door
and leave you there. That's what I'm gonna do. I
got dark it's supposed to be. It's a darkness retreat.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, no, no, that's why I used the term I did.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
It would be a lot worse if you stayed, so, yeah,
I would. I would hope you'd leave me.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
There.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, joining us now on the hotline, there is no
one better to break down everything going on in the NFL. Well,
let's see, he had the Aaron Rodgers news, he had
the Travis Kelcey news. I don't mean the Taylor Swift
Travis Kelsey news. He had the Travis Kelsey news. Aaron
Rodgers and he's the new backup quarterback for the Jets.
It is longtime NFL inside of You can follo him
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Jordan Schultz, Hey, Jay, congratulations man. Hopefully you get to
play a little bit against the Cowboys on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
A lot of plagure, guys. You know, it's it's a
great time of the year. Man. I gotta tell you
this week one, week two, it's it's it doesn't get
much better.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Well okay, yeah, okay. Remember I'm a Jet fan.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Remember I'm not I'm not talking about the Jets this
on this show.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I just won't do it.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I kidding, can't do it.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Won't do it. Right. Look, let's go forward here a
little bit, because you had the bit that the Jets
called out to Chad Henny. Let's let's move this Aaron
Rodgers thing forward here. Zach Wilson is the starter. They're
gonna go get another quarterback fill in the blank for me.
The quarterback the Jets are going to go get.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Is who it's gonna be so I don't. I don't
know exactly who yet. I know they narrow down their search.
They started, you know, a wider net, that narrowed it down.
The bottom line is what they're looking for is someone
who is a veteran quarterback that can not threaten Zach
Wilson as the new QB one, but who can help
(28:21):
bring him along, help stabilize what's not a very you know,
sable situation, and also somebody understands his purpose. I think
the reason.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I've had a few people ask, you know, why why
wouldn't they go after another you know, young up and
comer to push that, and I think the reason is
just because we're only two years removed from them spending
a number two pick on him. And part of the
reason why they brought an Aaron Rodgers obviously not.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
The only reason, but part of it was because they
wanted to have him learn from one of the greatest
of all time and make no mistakes, there has been
a lot of progressor Zach Wilson internally. I think, you know,
the relationship with Rogers is real.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
They they have really.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Connected and I think Aaron's helped them. And obviously we
didn't think we see Zach Wilson for a couple more years.
That now changes significantly. But with that in mind, they
are looking for a veteran quarterback. Maybe it's a Chad Henny,
maybe it's the Carson Wentz, someone that won't necessarily push
Wilson for the number one job, but that can help
stabilize situation.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Joe Namath, Okay, if it's gonna be Joe names act,
you tell me veterans. So hey, so you know the
other part of today, Rogers says he wants to come back.
He's going to rise again. Right, I'm gonna rise again.
Robert Sala said today, Hey, I fully exceed. You know, look,
he wants to come back. I'd be shocked. We're retired.
I get all of this, But as a Jet fan,
(29:49):
you know, look, I'm Positive'm a guy who's gonna tell you.
I think the Jets are still gonna win ten games
this year, They're still gonna get in the playoffs. But
Rogers coming back. I think there's just as much a
chance that Zach Wilson or an another quarterback starting next
year as it is Rogers. Because thirty nine Achilles. You
just don't know, and guys don't come back and play
very well when they have an injury like this, when
(30:10):
they're talking about being forty years old.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Yeah, it's the most devastating, debilitating injury that a pro
athlete can have. And you really don't know. It's the mental,
it's the physical, it's the emotional, There's so much that
goes into it. I love that he posted that. I
don't know what it means other than that, I think
he wants to stay involved with the team and more
specifically with Zach. We'll have to see what happens with surgery.
(30:36):
But listen, they you're talking about fast forwarding. The ideal
situation now for the Jets is that Dak Wilson grabs
the bole by the horns and showcases why he was
an All American at EYU, why he wasn't number two pick,
why he was called more than the homes. I mean,
the guy has talent. But when you're talking about this roster,
(30:57):
you know they have done. I give Joe Douglas, like Freddy,
I think he's done a really good job of developing
the roster with the secondary is terrific, specifically with Red
and you know Sauce. They bring in Amos, you know
they have a white Head that's three interceptions in the
first game. They have young pass rushers Romaine Johnson, you
(31:20):
saw it as DA, a couple of TFLs. They have
Clinton Williams. Defensively, they're loaded, and then offensively they've done
a really nice job as well. I think Greese Hall
really like We talked a lot about Rogers that night
for obvious reasons, but briefs Hall looked like the briefs
Hall we saw before the injury, and that's a huge plus.
(31:40):
So to me, when I think about the Jets this
year with Dak Wilson, I think they'll they're probably pushing
the playoffs because of the roster. I think the defense
will keep them in games. But you do have to wonder.
Let's let's say hypothetically they go three and three, two
and four, they start off slow, would they consider making
move for someone I'm not reporting this, but I'm just saying,
(32:03):
would it makes sense for them hypothetically to go after
someone like a Ryan Tannehill that's feasible to get potentially
so that they can turn the season around. Because right
now they're saying, and this is what I've been told,
we want a veteran who's going to help Zack not
push that. But if he doesn't play well and they
go three and three and they're not looking at the playoffs,
maybe that changes.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
So Jordan, one of the guy's name always comes up
when it there's a big injury and change. You got
a text message from Colin Kaepernick that just said, quote,
I just need a shot. Now we're forty eight hours
removed and it doesn't look like that's happening. But you
know when you get that text, what rolls through your
head in terns of how that flows.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
It's so interesting because you know Colin I've known for
a long time, probably probably six seven years since and
he hasn't played in seven years, so it's really once
he's once he retired Russians, he retired once. He once
he stopped playing. And we talked at lengths yesterday and
I just said, you know, how you doing. Have you
heard from anyone? We started talking and he said, you know,
(33:07):
we've we've reached out to the Jets, And I thought
that was really interesting because his name does percolate whenever
a team really needs a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
He's thirty six. He's basically been in La working out
the last couple of years and all he wanted a chance, right,
and I just you know, I would love to see
him get that chance. I know there's people that are
going to disagree with me, but I would love to
see it, just selfishly as a football fan. You know,
he worked out for the Raiders last year. I know
that he looked fine. I think that that was the
(33:39):
word they used.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
He was.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
He was fine, he was good. But I'd be surprised,
quite honestly, if if the Raider, if the Jets went
after Cap. But I can tell you that we've talked
a lot today and yesterday, and I can't think of
anybody that wants to shop more, you know, I mean,
he really does. He basically he related to me earlier today,
(34:03):
was you know, I just worst I could get a workout,
because if I go in and I think, then then
then I know I think, and they would know as well.
But I just want to work out. I just want
a chance. And I said, I hear you, I understand.
I just don't know if it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Jordan Schultz with us here, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Livethetirac
dot Com Studios. Big stuff there. You can follow Jordan
on Twitter as well at Schultz Underscore Report. All right,
so as we move on now to the rest of
the the the league that we see coming off a
week one into week two, I want to hit you
with the dealer's choice right now because three of the
guys that I saw you talking about a lot that
(34:40):
impressed you the most in week one were Bijon Robinson,
Calvin Ridley, and Brendan Ayuk. Give me the guy that
impressed you the most out of those you love the
all three of those guys.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Oh man, but you got to give me one.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I gotta choose your favorite child, be honest.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
You know what, I'm gonna go with the rook I'm
gonna go with John Robinson. I thought he was electric, man.
I mean like, I'm not surprised, but to see it,
to see it at that level, and you know, Carolina
had some guys on that defense to including Brian Burns,
Derek Derek Brown. They have they have some players, man,
(35:20):
Frankluvu and Be'sjohn Robinson. Just I think I said on Twitter,
he's the truth. The guy is the truth. I think
he has a chance to legally in rushing. I think
he has the chance to be the next truly trendsend
there running back. And what I was told early on
when they drafted him was that they were going to
use him all over the field. And you hear that.
(35:41):
You heard that with Jamir Gibbs in Detroit, But to
see it is a different story. And you know, I
like Arthur Smid the head coach. I think he's innovative,
and I think his commitment to the run games says
a lot. And uh, you know, they they I don't
know how Allan is going to be this year. I
want to assume that they'll be better, and they have
a lot of young talent off but seeing Bejon Robinson,
(36:02):
seeing his speed and his cuts, the way he catches
the football, I mean his touchdown, he's just different. You know,
someone that big and that physical should not be able
to move with that type of agility. He's just a
different style. And uh, man, I think the Unicorns.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I'll just wait for the Tyler all jeer love and
if they actually done, yeah, it'll be dangerous.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
And honestly, I think you're looking at it because listen,
they they were second in the league in rush attempts
last year and when Ritter started, they averaged thirty six
rushes the game, I believe it was, which was the
first in the league by far. So we know they're
going to run the ball right, But you have those
two bats Algier terrific. I think you're looking at a
(36:47):
situation where Bjhon's going to get twenty touches a week
in Algiers and he gets fifteen seventeen, and I see
no problem with that. And that's going to open up
the play accident for Ritter, that's going to help Kyle Pitts,
that's gonna help Drake London. So I'm fascinated by the offense.
But honestly, Vijhon Robinson is Yeah, he's the guy.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, that's why I picked them to win the division.
All right, Now, your dealer's choice, which is the bigger story,
Dak and the Cowboys rising to a level of prominence
or the absolute no show effort of your New York
Football Giants, And by yours, I mean all of ours.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Yes, Okay, I'm gonna go Dak because he led the
league in interceptions last year, and honestly, it's not who
he was and has been throughout his career. Go back
to his days Mississippi State, Go back to his days.
You know, his first five six years in the league,
he didn't turn the ball over very much. So part
(37:40):
of that was on him, of course, but it was
also on the fact that I think he felt like
he had to win more games. Dallas's defense was unbelievable.
I'm not saying they're going to be that good every week,
but what they did since its dismantled New York, who
I think is a playoff team, was sensational. And I
talked to Dan Quoyn afterwards that the the DC the
(38:01):
message hees relates to me the last few months is
you know, last year was great, this year is gonna
be better. We have so much talent, We're so diverse
in how we can use that talent and deploy everyone.
And I mean Parsons is generational, like he is a
transcendent freak. So I was just blown away by Dallas
on both sides of the ball. I think the guy
(38:24):
that probably impressed me the most was Tony Pollard because
he has and comes off with essentially a broken leg
eight months ago and he looked as good as anyone.
I mean, he is a bel cow. They don't have
another guy that's gonna get fifteen carries, and so to
see him, I think I use the term over the offseason.
He's more of a Ferrari, you know, like you wonder
(38:46):
with him. Can you use him every day of the week?
Can you use him in the snow? Is he that
physical of the back? I saw everything I needed to see.
I was really impressed with Tony Pollard and as a whole,
with Dak Prescott. I mean, the defense was incredible, but
offensively they look good and obviously Mike McCarthy's falling the plays. No,
Kellen Moore, I thought there would be a learning curve,
(39:07):
and at least in one game there wasn't.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
All right, Lastly, let me give you this. You just
gave us a big surprise and the positive the Cowboys
and how now it's a super Bowl or bust year
for them. What's your biggest surprise from week one? That,
oh boy, this player, this team has problems. And if
the Seahawks that's okay, this player this week they got
more problems.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Yes, I was gonna say, I was going to say
Seattle in a sense that I have such high expectations
for them, and you guys know I'm from Seattle. I mean,
I listen. I met my wife in a Seahawk game.
I've been going to Seahawk games in the Kingdome since
I was three years old, so I have allegiances to
that city, to that team. But I was really surprised.
Now they struggle against the Rams traditionally, but that's not
(39:49):
the Seattle we saw last year, so I want to
see them bounce back in a big way. The Giants
as well. I would say the Chargers defense, to me
was concerning in the sense that Miami was unstoppable and
I think Miami's offense is going to be elite all year,
but the Chargers defense, like, there's no reason to me
(40:11):
why they can't be a top ten defense on paper.
So to see them get shredded like that was surprising.
I'd be curious for you guys, like, I don't know
how much he saw the Miami game, but Tua looks
so comfortable. I didn't see enough to pass rush. That
would probably be the concern.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Well, Jordan Frostburg's got his ear mufs on, you know,
Charger producing badcast. He may never book you for the
show again. I mean this may be your last.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
It was, you know, it went through my mind as
as I've been here a few days later. You know,
I was thinking, if I bring up the fact that
the Chargers defense struggled, what's that going to do? But offensively,
Miami's got the players now defensively, so I was actually
blown away by by their offense. I mean, I think
(40:57):
that's what we're going to see all year. But I listen.
I mean there's a lot of pressure. There's a lot
of pressure on that on that defense, on Brandon Staley,
who's a defensive guy. I want to see it, man,
I want to see it because they have a ton
of talent.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
All right, So so now let me finish with this.
I know I said lastly, but so, did you propose
to your wife in a Seahawks game, like after a
Steve Largent touchdown? Like tell me you did it?
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Like mid Wow, you you aged him very much there.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
I'm not that, although I do love. No, we actually
met at a Seahawk game in college and we try
to go back once a year for a game, and
we know I did not propose there. But you know,
when you meet your wife at a Seahawks game on
you know, on the field, and you've been going to
the Kingdome and my whole life growing up. They were terrible.
(41:46):
You know, we did not have playoff teams. We're barely
five hundred. John Kittna was our best quarterback. Bro uh
mirror Rick Meyer, I mean a terrible quarterback.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
So for me, the Seahawks hold hold a special place,
and I gotta tell you, watching them loose to the
Rams like that, I was. I was really surprised. And
again I have allegiances, but I also am am. I
guess you can say if I could step away thirty
thousand square feet or thirty thousand feet, I was. I
was disappointed. I know it can be better.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
He's on Twitter at Jordan Underscore Schultz. That's at Jordan
Underscore Schultz. A long time NFL inside to check him
out again the big week he had with Roger's story.
Travis Kelsey, we'll get to Taylor Swift next week with
you. You know, I know you're gonna do some digging on that.
But dude, as always, thanks so much for staying up
late with us. Man appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
Have fun, guys, always a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Thank you, see you Jordan
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