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Jets head coach Robert Saleh would ‘be shocked’ if Aaron Rodgers retires after Achilles injury. NFL Insider Jordan Schultz swings by for all BIG headlines from around the league. Plus, the Progressive play of the night!

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Speaker 3 (00:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
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Speaker 1 (00:44):
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Speaker 3 (01:00):
Welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I don't want it to make it seem like like
ty Shirt training people is like when they cloned Fred
and the Flintstones. So I just want to say larraina.
Sometimes the show gets a little really weird and sometimes
it drops are weird and and things happen.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's really weird and it's all tight. Shirt's fault, you said, just.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Just curious what these conversations were. You know where he
got the soundbites from, because it's it leaves a lot
to the imagination. I'll say, yeah, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
The hope FD and Evey of the laugh. You shake
your head, but you're always engaged. It's like the the
Howard Stern. If you're what they're gonna say next.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
If it's anything you really it doesn't sound great. You
don't like it's AI that that's what it is. I mean,
we're we're the first ones that have been really just
hit hard by AI, so.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
That that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Just relliant.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, but everything going okay for yourself far tonight. You
enjoying your time with us.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's been so much fun.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Okay, very very good, very like an AI script. It
sounded like you.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
No, I did my Google search. I did my Google
search a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Under duress there, I did. I did my Google search
and they're having me train on this show.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
What guys, I knew that coming.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
In, got my warnings.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
All right, Well, welcome. Hopefully Alex Ticher isn't making you
eat all healthy food, which is kind of what he
does to everybody.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yeah, Tomorrow sandwich night.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
So yeah tomorrow, Yeah, I got all.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Sandwich is a dinner food, though.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's sandwichesn't any time food?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, have you ever had a fat selch.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Fat sALS? Tomorrow night?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
It's my four meals, It's my Jets sandwich tomorrow night
because they beat the bills.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
And I told you I didn't even need the points.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
We'll celebrate my daughter's birthday and sandwich night.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Birthday tomorrow. Oh, happy birthday, Ellie.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
I'm officially old.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're really Have you cried about
it yet?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
No? No, no, well we'll wait until later and I'll
pick some random song for tomorrow. Wow, get it on camera. Yeah,
you know, maybe it'll make me that much more uh
endearing to the people of America either that I will
mock me roundly. Now officially and legally, she can tell
you to go to hell. That look, you've known them

(03:18):
for almost a decade's known them to do anything different.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
No, that's true.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I still time I think of eleanor just walking out
to me go mister Jason, you're weird.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
That's just I just to do that to me all
the time, mister Jason, you're weird.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Okay, Yeah, in formative years around the people of Fox
Sports Radio, that's how it goes.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Uh So, happy happy early birthday to Eleanor that's awesome man, congratulations.
Uh so, while we'll celebrate that tomorrow, fat South Sandwich tomorrow.
Uh today was a day where Aaron Rodgers said he
is going to rise from the ashes. All right, he's
gonna rise again. I put on the Instagram post saying
he's going to rise again.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Potentially, he's gonna try to play again. Look, we we've
talked about that part of it. He's gonna try. Is
he going to succeed? Look, I can't give you anything
more than he's got just as good a chance as
Zach Wilson be the quarterback next year. He's thirty nine,
coming off a torn Achilles. It's really really difficult, right,
and I can't. I'd love to say it, but I
don't think it's gonna be hard for me to say, Yes,

(04:21):
he can. He's got he's got a thirty three percent chance.
It's him or it's Zach or it's somebody else. Right,
that's what that's what it's going to be next year
like that. But as far as the future of him
a right, Robert Sola talked today and said, let's know,
we really want eight around us when he's ready, because
right now Rogers is away from the team. He's taken
a little bit of time before as he figures out
what's next. He hasn't scheduled his Achilles surgery yet, so

(04:44):
he needs a little bit of time. And also, hey,
it's good for him to not be around the team
right now as they get ready, you know, to go
face the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Hey, we gotta we got him.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
We got to buckle down here in five days and
go play the Cowboys. And we still think about the
emotions though.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
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Speaker 4 (05:08):
Like the year that you've been building up, you finally
got rid of your ex, right, you finally broke that
all off. After a bunch of idle threats and working
with your minions in the media, you went to New
York and you were reinvigorated, just like you were rising
from the graves. He's already done it once, buddy, he
could do it again. It's like all the monster movies,

(05:31):
movie monsters that we're gonna celebrate here in the next
month with all the Halloween you know, because that's what
we do at night when the games are done.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Hey, what Halloween movies are on?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
But it's just that, like now he's got this test,
but for a couple of days after that big moment
carrying the flag out and then four plays later, you're done.
I gotta imagine psychologically, you need to go to find
your dark room for a bit and decompress. So the
fact that we even got a statement out of him
today I thought was faster than we would have.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, it's it's it's much.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's much quicker, but it shows that, Look, he wants
to get back because he likes being talked about.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's one of the worst parts for him is that
he likes pushing the discussion. He likes detention being around him.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Right, he does.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
He always watch why he wanted to play in New York.
He wanted the attention. He's the number one story in
the NFL. The rest of the story isn't even close.
But you heard Salas say he wants him around. And
there's the school of thought like Bill Parcells would always say,
I never want injured players around because it's a reminder
of who's not here to help us, right, It's it's
a it's that oblique reminder of all if it's only
so and so is playing, you know what so and

(06:36):
so's not playing.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
But when Rogers showed up, he instilled in the Jets a.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Belief that they can win. Hey, we got our guy.
Now we have hopes and dreams. We can be a
super Bowl team. We're a super Bowl or bust type
year for us. And if he's around, he's a reminder
of that. And that's okay because he's also been a
great resource for all the young players on the team,
whether it's Sauce Gardner or who's.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Giving him a here, I made this chain for you,
Oh yeah you go?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Man is the great, or Garrett Wilson who keeps talking
about his family with him, or Zach Wilson saying, hey,
this has been great. Aaron's been helping me so much.
He's gonna be in Rogers. He's gonna be in Zach Wilson's.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Ear all year.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
You could tell the relationship they had from the first
game on hard knocks, Hey throw it up deep to
Malik Taylor. Hey, he's a deep pass, good for fifty
five yards in a first down. Rogers will be around
the Jets and it will be nothing but good for
them because they're gonna need his presence.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
You're gonna see.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Him on the sideline every week. They're gonna show him
every everywhere. He's gonna have the headphones on. He's gonna
be talking to Robert Sala, He's gonna be talking to
Nathaniel Hackett. He will look like a coach. And I
got news for you some point sooner rather than later.
And I mean like when he's done playing, and maybe
it's next year, maybe it's a year after that. He
will go right to being a head coach in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
I'll get you right to it.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
You can see the cachet that Rogers has with the players.
You see the knowledge that he has, and they all
to a man, are lapping up whatever he's got to say.
You see how smart he is, how well he knows
the offensive side of the football, and.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
How comfortable he is.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
He already looked like a coach on the sidelines during
hard knocks, he looked like the.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Head got out took over.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah yeah, And before you say, well, he likes ayahuasca ta,
he likes his time away, he likes his darkness retreat.
That's not what you need to do to be an
NFL head coach. Oh no, No, Rogers is going to
come in and he's going to be a new age,
new style, completely new school kind of head coach that's
going to turn what it is to be a head
coach in the NFL on its ear, just like Deon

(08:36):
Sanders has done in college football. Right, the head coach
in college football, we're recruiting, we're game planning, I have
a system, I have all these things. No, Deon's got
his oc with a system. He rides around on a
golf cart. He inspires the players, he talks to the recruits.
He does things a different way. This is not at
all what a college football head coach has been.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
But guess what.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Look at the level he succeeding at the ear he
had oft Jackson State, what he's got so far with Colorado.
Everybody wants to come play for him. His new style,
which is not popular, but it's a huge success. Rogers
will be the same kind of guy, different than Dan.
I'm not gonna be riding around on the golf caurt
doing those things. But is Rogers, Hey, he doesn't need
to be a guy that comes in eight o'clock in
the morning leads at eight o'clock at night. Right, He's

(09:15):
going to find a way to carve his own niche in.
He will give responsibility to the guys who need it,
and he's going to be the guy to guide the team.
And it's not going to be anything that we're used
to or anything that we've seen before in the NFL.
He will turn what it means to be a head
coach on its ear and suddenly will make teams think
we can really go outside the box for our next guy.

(09:36):
We don't have to sit here and be beholden too well.
Is there a hot offensive or defensive coordinator that needs
a head coaching job, or as as someone who wants
to make the jump from college football to the NFL.
Is it Lincoln Riley ready to come to the NFL?
You don't have to wait to that. It's hey, do
we have an outside the box kind of guy? Because
we see that that can be some kind of success.
That's the kind of head coach Aaron Rodgers is going

(09:57):
to be, and he's going to be successful right away.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
I like that in theory. I'll get on board with
that in theory. But I do think he likes those
other things too much, and he likes the media presence.
And whether he would be that guy that would still
be brashing, out spoken, yelling we're coming and we're gonna
smash everybody and everything else, I don't know that in

(10:21):
the NFL that that necessarily is is where you had
to and necessarily what he would want to do. But
why the hell not, right? I mean, hey, if I'm
all for it, if he wants to give it a try,
because as long as he's the acerbic, smart ass, you know,
with the eyebrow raised and that devilish twinkle to hey,

(10:41):
I'm gonna screw with you now, because that's the thing
I like most Like all right, I don't like the
question you asked, and now I'm gonna screw with you.
I appreciate it. Even though he was a packer and
me being the Southside Chicagoan, there was always the appreciation
for the smart ass in him, even when things got
weird during the COVID time, making folks squirm a little bit.
It's what he was really good at, and you know,

(11:02):
he found a thing that really got folks off their center.
And now in the Jets era, it's just been too happy,
go lucky. I mean, obviously now all that's torn asunder
with an injury, but when when we look at the
next phase, I just don't see it. It's like with
with Manning, with with Brady, I could see him having fun,

(11:24):
you know, being around with with Zach Wilson for a bit,
and hey, we're having some fun winging the ball around
a little bit. Hey why don't why don't you run that?
I mean, that's great in the preseason, playing a bunch
of grab ass, but if you can't actually be out
there and compete, I mean, how many guys that were
legendary players in any sport really went on to become
legendary coaches. That's the one. I mean in basketball, we've

(11:47):
seen it some in the NFL, mostly a bunch of
guys that that topped out earlier than that, or the
whiz kids as they were right going out and down
our our moneyball stuff of that guy playing now ah,
but he runs numbers really well. So for Aaron Rodgers,
I can't see him putting that time in. I just
can't too much.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
But is he gonna have to? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I don't. I don't think it's the same as it
was once upon a time, once upon a time where
you need to be there twenty hours a day, right,
the old Hey, if you're not in here, first guy in,
last guy out, sleeping on a cot or on the floor. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
No, I don't, I don't buy that.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
But I still think it's more than a guy with
what three four hundred million dollars in the bank is
gonna really want to do?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
He likes the spotlight, and how else is he gonna
get it more? I'm your head coach. He will be
the number one.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
With this guy Athapy and then they'll just curse up
a storm on whatever ESPN.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Because and I can say as many f bobs as
I want, just gonna keep dropping them, just gonna drop them.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
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Speaker 1 (13:02):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon my upset special live from the ti
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the Night coming your way in a couple of minutes.
But first, you know, we've spent a lot of time
talking about quarterbacks. We talked about Dak Prescott last night

(13:22):
a lot about the pressure on him and how everybody's
gonna turn heel on him in the media as a
season goes on, because now Rogers's out, they need somebody
to say you're not good enough. I can tell you
right now what Ta Tungue of Iloa is going to
have to be able to be okay with and master
and handle for the rest of his career because he's

(13:44):
the new Dak Prescott. No matter what Toua does, and
this has been the way since he came into the league,
it's not been enough. His arm is not strong enough,
he's not good enough, he's injury prone, all these things.
You have had questions about him from the beginning. The
Dolphins draft almost felt like they didn't want a draft.
They were looking to trade him and move on. They
wanted Jalen Hurts. We're gonna trade ta Oh, he had

(14:05):
a big year, but yeah, we still don't know. He
throws for four to sixty six against the Chargers on
Sunday and he got questions at the press conference today.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Saying, hey, can you throw it deep? Can you throw
it deep enough? And he said, look, I don't care
for sixty six is what it is?

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Good.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
You know whatever, this tells you that Tua is the
next Dak Prescott, that no matter what he does, it's
not gonna be enough. And he's gotta be okay, because
the thing is, Tua's got a little bit of rabbit ears.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
You know, he's a little thin skinned when it comes
to criticism. You know, he hears it.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know it's something that affects him because he's talked
about it, and it's just something like this I threw
for four sixty six he talking about so you know
it bothers him. He's gotta be able to handle that.
He's got to be able to handle the fact that
the fans and the media and former players and experts
and pundits who were all looking for hot takes, it's
never gonna be enough. Whatever he does is never gonna

(14:55):
be enough. They win the division all but he's stunk
in the playoffs. Why was it his fa They get
to the super Bowl but don't win. Oh, it's his fault.
They win the Super Bowl. All he could have played better.
That's exactly what two has got to be able to master,
because that's gonna be one of the biggest hurdles he's
gonna have to face the rest of his career. Everything
else is fine. Don't have a strong enough arm, doesn't matter.
Look at Mike McDaniel's offensive system. It works in a way.

(15:17):
They don't have to worry about him throwing the ball
seventy five yards downfield. Tyreek Kill can still go for
two hundred a week. Get it catching passes from to
a tongue of iloa. That's going to work. But being
able to handle people who don't believe in him, which
he's gonna get because if you know, if you get
it after a four to sixty six week, you're gonna
get it all the time. If he can handle that, great,
But that's the biggest challenge he's got going forward.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
My favorite acronym, my favorite abbreviation, whatever you want to
call it in sports, is yack. Right, hit guys in stride.
Let him make big plays. And if I'm to a
tongue of iloa right now, I'm just wiping my brow
and going, whow, nobody's asking me about taking falls. Of course,
you have to get hit. There's our dig at the

(15:59):
charge defense. Uh, you have to get hit and resiliency there. Yeah,
I'm feeling pretty good. But it's just that would would
you rather be answering questions about how many yards you
did or didn't throw for the strength of your arm
or you know, you got up a little gingerly was

(16:22):
it were you feeling it up in your head or
was that completely you know, in your quad and ankle?
Like really, that's that's the question that I would be
ruing if I were to a Now, do you get
the little too chesty with your four sixty six? I mean,
I like smart asses. I've been known and I've been
called that for as long as I've been on this earth.

(16:42):
But the fact of the matter is that that gives
the poison pens a little bit of extra energy when
the numbers aren't there and if the offense doesn't click,
So you know, you gotta be careful with that. I
dig it because tongue in cheek is like again, I'd
rather answer these questions about you know, did you feel
any residual effects from that hit in the second quarter?

(17:04):
You seem to land a little awkwardly. Doesn't have any
of that. I'd rather have these questions all day long.
How explosive is my arm? Just wait until the next
opponent finds out.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, and you know, and I hear that, and I
agree with you, except you know, it affects him. There's quarterbacks.
It doesn't affect where. I don't care what you say
about me. I really don't give a crap. But you know,
it affects him, and it's affected him from the beginning
of his career. He hears that, he listens to it.
It's it's a tough thing. That's tough man.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Then he's got to grow up because since and get
and get the rabbit ears off.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
That's what it's what.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
I mean when I say it's the biggest thing he's
got to attack and adjust to.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
I just think it's your fault. You just put it
into it into it the existence here.

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Speaker 3 (17:58):
Who says I'm bitter Mets fan?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Who says I can't give credit a when you win
a division for the sixty year in a row. Hey,
even if you're the Braves, you get to be the
play of the nights.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
At his glove, right at the tomahawk again, ready with
a two to two Here it comes, goddamn swinging strike
three and the Braves are National League's champions for the
sixth year in a row. What an amazing era we're
in the midst as it has been a six year
run of dominance in the East. And the Raids can

(18:32):
celebrate right here in Philadelphia on the Phillies home field.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Well, we're gonna celebrate on your home field.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
They really failed you. They've all the Mets and all
the other teams in the division really failed you. Frostburg.
They give you actually no support.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I'll tell you now it's time for me to be
somewhat little bit bitter Mets fan.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
This is a now a world series or bust year
for the Braves. Braves have been the best team in
Major League Baseball all year longer. We could talk about
the Dodgers are fun and the Astros and are they good?
Are the Warriors gonna be good enough? The Braves have
been the best team all season long. If they don't
win the World Series, this.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Is a fail for them.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
It's a failure to not win when you have this
much winning and you're this much better than everybody else.
If you don't win at all, it's a failure.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Open it up for chaos.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Let's go exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome
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