September 19, 2023 • 33 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react and tell you what is next for Nick Chubb's after his horrific injury. Longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the guys for all the latest headlines from around the league. And Colorado State DB Henry Blackburn has been receiving death threats over his late hit that sent Travis Hunter to the hospital with a lacerated liver.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Welcome inside, Happy Monday, The Jason Smith Show with
my bas friend Mike Harmon.
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Night Games in action right now. We're getting this a
couple of times this year, and in a game that
(00:30):
no one's watching, sorry, in a game that many of
you are.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Watching right now.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Make it a nineteen to nine lead for the Saints
over the Panthers with four minutes to go in the
fourth quarter. Chris Olave has just gone in from sixteen
yards out. They are this may come back because it
looks like he may have stepped out of bounds at
the three. In fact, it looks like it will come back.
So I think it's not going.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
To be a celebration.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's good, celebrate look good. They were very excited, very excited.
Derek Carr completed a forward pay it's good.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So it looks like it will come back, I'm sure
looking at this, but it is still the Saints leading
this one over the Panthers, and there's a lot to
get to here. We have Bryce Young, we have what's
going on in this one that really when I say
no one's watching, because everybody's watching. Everybody's tuned into what's
going on right now between the Steelers and the Browns
and a game that still is yet to hit halftime.
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We still have some time left to go before halftime.
It is a very difficult game after what happened to
Nick Chubb. Now we're gonna play the audio for you. Obviously,
when you saw this on the broadcast tonight, you know
the games are on ABC and ESPN.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
With the two games tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They didn't show the replay because the replay was really,
really bad. Nick Chubb suffering a gruesome knee injury. Here
was the play that he was injured on.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
One of the best players in the game is being
carted off. And these fans here in Pittsburgh, I mean
so class sea.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
They saw the replay, They groaned.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
When they saw it.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
When Chubb got on the cart, they were channing Chubbs
for Nick Chubb, and they gave him a huge.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Ovation as he was carted away.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Got hit directly on the knee earlier in the game.
Here's the play where Nick Chubb is hurt. The replay
from the other side is not.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Good to see.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
It's a direct hit by Amenka Fitzpatrick on a planet
left leg right into the knee and his knee just
completely collapsed. Had to get carted off out for the
rest of the night and who knows how long.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So there was on ABC, Slash, ESPN Joe Buck Troy
Aikman with the call. Chubb was having a great game.
He was doing whatever he wanted. He was running downhill
and he goes in it's an average run and he
gets stopped and his knee bends in a way that
knees aren't supposed to bend. If you remember the Willis
McGahee injury, that's what it looked like. I mean, you
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can see it if you want to on social media.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know you knew when this Well, we're not gonna
show the replay, Okay, Well people are gonna put.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It up on How quickly could the aggregators get it up?
I counted like three and a half seconds.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, we'll get clicks up.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So you knew was gonna come up there, which, you know, look,
I get it, it happened.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It's on TV.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You can make a decision to not show the replay.
I was fine not saying I actually saw it on accident,
like I didn't know. It just happened. Someone in my
timeline reposted it. And you know, when you scroll through
Twitter and you and you're real sorry x x X,
when you're throwing through x and you see stuff sometimes
that comes up it's like oh, and it was like here.
I was like, oh wow, So I actually saw it
by accident, but then it got on my timeline a
few more times by people posting it. So it's out
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there if you want to go see it. Is it
an injury that we have seen before? Unfortunately it is now.
It was the best part of this was seeing Nick Chubb.
You know, look, he was obviously in a lot of pain,
but you saw him when they put him on the
cart and took him off. He was possessed of all
his faculties. He wasn't writhing in all kinds of pain.
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He you know, obviously understands that he had a really
bad injury. Uh, you know, the adrenaline probably he is
keeping him going at that point.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So that was that was good, and hopefully he is okay.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
We don't know what the diagnos is going to be,
but I find it hard to believe we're going to
see him play football again this season for the Browns.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I mean really, I mean, you can.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Wind up saying, oh, it's a dislocation or this, but
I don't know that you can come back from an
injury like that and play this year. And for his future,
the guy's twenty eight, right, He's getting to late age
as a running back, and this is a need that
he hurt before earlier in his career that he had
rebuilt when he was in college. So to comfort to
see him come back and play, I mean, everybody's thoughts
and prayers hoping he can come back and play. You
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hear a lot of great things said about him by
by everybody in the industry, and and and and things
he does off the field, So everybody's got prayers up
for him, and hopefully he gets better as soon as
he can. But boy, you think about his season, his
career is now something that you don't know if you're
go to see him back on the field.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
No, and he's a guy and listening as I was
on my way to the studio, you know, Kevin Harlan
Palsey goes, this is the best running back in football.
Like because he plays in Cleveland, maybe he doesn't get
the same juice, he doesn't catch as many balls as
McCaffrey or whatever. But when we go and we think
about the running back position, it's him and Henry are
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the prototypes and the guys that harken back today's past.
And he has carried literally on his shoulders this Browns
team for a number of years now. The wins haven't followed,
but you know those that watch him between the lines,
I mean, that's about as good as it gets. So
this injury, also, you start get going down the highway.
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And I saw this starting to take off in the
wake of the Henry Blackburn hit on Travis Hunter over
the weekend. Did make a Fitzpatrick need to go low
on Shubb on this hit, as like you're going to
take his legs out and near the goal line, right low,
You're trying to get a hit on him. So and
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not malicious, not dirty, just his foot's planted and Unfortunately
you caught the sweet spot where everything goes awry. So
good thoughts to him, and you know, obviously will await
further word. Now it becomes the all right, how do
you cobble together? How do you respond emotionally? If you're
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the Browns, you know, to get through the game. Having
watched that, I love the reaction from the Steelers crowd.
Obviously they saw the replay and groaned, but then once
that was away. I mean, you had the cheering and
respect for the player that they've watched terrorize them the
last couple of years. So good thoughts to him, and
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now we'll get towards the recovery. Maybe he can be
like Aaron Rodgers and figure out a way to find
his way back.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Jordan Schultz, NFL inside of Front of the Show. We
had him on the show last week. Just put this
out on social media about three minutes ago. Sources tell
him the Browns fear Chubb season is over from a
possible knee dislocation, potentially with multiple ligament damage. He's currently
undergoing testing, but there is serious concern. Again, this from
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Jordan Schultz a couple moments ago. Brown's fear Nick Chubb's
season over from a possible knee dislocation, potentially multiple ligament damage.
He is undergoing testing again. All kinds of thoughts and
prayers up for Nick Chubb and all of this, and
we'll bring you more when we have more as the
night progresses. The game just did go to halftime, Stealers
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leading over the Brown sixteen fourteen. But you know, to
take this little wider and here here's what sucks even further, right,
because this is one of those a double blow here,
because you have the blow for Nick Chubb where he's
hurt and here, as you said, best running back in football,
and here he is now who knows we're going to
see him on the field again. Such attention in the
offseason spent on running backs getting new contracts right and
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being taken care of because they play a high profile
a position when it comes to being injured. A lot
of it was that we talked about it, and I
remember saying that the only way for you to get
paid as a running back is to ball out, stay healthy,
and go year to year. That's how you have to
do it. That's the only way you can do it.
Ball out, stay healthy, and get paid year to year.
It sucks, but that's how you have to do it
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because that's the only thing open to you. Now you
think about this. Now we are through just two weeks
of the season, and now you have Nick Chubb in
this injury. Sa Kuon Barkley, who we find out just
has an ordinary ankle sprain. But he's a guy who
was gonna hold out and was gonna hold out for money,
decided no, I'm gonna come in now his season.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Who knows what his season is like? Right? JK.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Dobbins is already out for the year as well. So
you're talking through three weeks, we've had three of the
most high profile number one running backs all suffer serious injuries.
And that sucks because what teams are gonna say is, yeah, see,
we kind of told you, you know why we can't
pay these guys can't stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
We can't pay And that's awful because nothing that's going
on in the first two weeks is gonna help running
backs get paid morning because they should get paid more money.
And and look, did they sign a bad deal for
the the CBA, Yes they did. They really got screwed
with that. But you know, you were hoping going in like, Okay,
guys ball out, have big years and get paid and
let's figure it out. So you have all these guys
so far who right now are are injured. And then
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you got other guys who were out and just trying
to come back from you, guys like Aaron Jones who
was out a little bit right and you know, we
don't know David Montgomery.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You don't miss going to be Montgomery's gonna miss multiple weeks.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
All these ones they're all out now.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Now, then you see this injury in a primetime game
for the nation. You know a lot of high profile
Steelers haven't lost a home Monday night football game since
I was in college, all the way back to my
freshman year. When you when you get down to it,
I wasn't k yeah I was. I probably went out
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and watched that game probably yeah. But this morning, right,
you have that serious injury, but you have a lot
of questions about, you know, how heard are people like
that was the Barkley, you know, speculation coming off at yesterday,
how bad is it? And even today more of the
is the one game because they're on a short week
with a Thursday night game against San Francisco or is
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it multiple weeks, but you had an NFL grievance file
today accusing the NFLPA of advising running backs to fake
injuries to avoid practicing while negotiating new contracts. So now
you add that in the background of everything of all right,
now that it's gonna go to an arbiter, you're gonna
try to see if you can find a paper trail.
All of these things start flowing, and then you see
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this big injury to Nick Chubb with there's no denying
the human leg doesn't bend that way. There's no you know,
no shenanigans that can possibly be paid. And that's unfortunately
the other side that they're they're now going to face
is well, how hurt are you? When we were talking
about the NBA and load management, like, what's gonna stop
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guys from just walking out with an ice bag on
their leg?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, I'm I can't go.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But it now extends to the NFL where it's like,
all right, now we're questioning severity of ankle injuries in
week two.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, look, but it's it's there's no there's well, first
of all, you can't question this one, and secondly, there's
there's the thing is there's no way out to this.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
That that's that's the that's the side.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
That's the triple sucky part is that there's no way
out to it because owners are gonna say and teams
are gonna say, yeah, this is why we can't pay guys,
and players are gonna say, but we gotta find some
way for us to get paid sooner than we do. Okay,
well the CBA has come from the seven years, so
what what what what can you do? I'd be really
there there's no way out because there's there's no way
that Suddenly teams are gonna say, Okay, you're right, let's
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do this because they say, we don't want to be
on the hook for money to pay a guy that
is not gonna play for us. I mean, because that's
the other part of it, you know, you don't they
don't want to have to say that, but that's a
big part going, yeah, we don't want to pay a
guy and forget about that, you know about winning about pay,
but we don't want to be on the hook for
a contract with a guy that gets.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I mean, that's that that's you don't they don't want
to have.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
To dead cap all of that stuff comes to.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
There's no there's no way forward. It's it's it's really
it's it's year to year, stay healthy and ball out.
That that's really what it is. And unfortunately it's becoming
more and more difficult to do. And and and there's
no there's not going to be any return to the
running back formula of Hey, the running backs are going
to come back and vogue. No, because of the the
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propensity to injury, We're going to build around a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Who does.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Quarterbacks still get hurt, but they don't get hurt as
much as running backs do. It's a it's an easy
decision for them to do that. It's just it sucks.
I mean, there's no other word to say it. It sucks
for Nick Chubb, it sucks for running backs. But this
is where we are as far as that topic goes.
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in the books. The Saints are kneeling on the football.
Taysom Hill just ran for a first down to clinch
it for the Saints. Bryce Young threw a touchdown, got
the two point conversion to make it twenty seventeen. However,
the Saints get the on side kick. Taysom Hill put
in it running back because of the injury to Jamal Williams.
No Kendre Millers still know obviously waiting for Alvin Kamara
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after his suspension. I don't think mark Ingram is still
on the team, so there's working for Fox. So they
were down to Taysom Hill, who played running back in
the second half, their best player. And yeah, everybody in
fantasy's going wait is he running back down?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Well, I told you I got a note.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
There's like no, no, no this league and these administrators
they changed him to a quarterback. So he's only a quarterback,
so super flex all you want, but you're looking for
him as a tight ender running back, start writing your congressman.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Nine carries for seventy five yards to lead the Saints
in rushing. Leading rusher in the game is Taysom mill
Bryce Young falls to zero to two on the game
on the year for the Panthers. Meanwhile, the Steelers and
the Browns have just started the second half of mora.
Nick Chubb coming up in a second but joining us
now on the hot line to break it all, break
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it all down. First time in seven years, the Baltimore
Orioles are in the postseason. It is Baltimore resident insider,
longtime NFL insider, Honesty Washington Post one of five to seven,
the fan in Baltimore, Jason locking for it, Jay, congratulations, buddy.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Oh, I appreciate it. And the boys celebrated as they should,
but long way to go. Let's let's get the division
and the one seed and the World Series Yo.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And series and then back to back World series all
the way through.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Yeah, let's let's have a parade.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So all right, So while you're celebrating, and you know,
I did see a little bit of controversy that they're
celebrating the playoffs, the Al East is still up for grabs.
I'm like, yeah, when you get in the playoffs once
every seven years, celebrate that.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, well you celebrate that.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I mean, and the way they won yesterday and you
know what that meant for them keeping their division lead
and everything else. Yeah, boys will be boys. I'm glad
they had something to celebrate. So yeah, consider me among
those not in the celebration police.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
All right, well, let's get to the game that's completed.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
We watched the Saints just put the victory over the
Panthers twenty to seventeen. What's your big takeaway from this game?
Tonight Saints go to two and oho, Panthers go to
Owen Town.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Look, the Saints went to the defense, and Derek Carr sucks,
and Derek Carr in the red zone really sucks. Uh.
And I didn't touch the Saints because I figured this
is a backdoor cover and it was. But thankfully it
stayed under It played out like I thought it would.
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The safe defense since Week eight of last year is
pretty air tight. It's number one in the league in
yards per play. It's opposing quarterback rating of seventy, which
is first in the league. I mean, really, they're they're
they're pretty, they're pretty phenomenal nine point four percent sack
rate that's fifth in the league. They've allowed only now
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eighteen offensive touchdowns since Week eight of last year. In
this one here, you know, was garbage time. They're not
superb against the run, but they're they're pretty damn good.
They get pressure, they make plays on the ball, and
offensively they're limited. So I think these are the kind
of of games they play. I mean, what this was
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thirty seven thirty one last week. I've gone back to
last year now seventeen, thirty, twenty seven, thirty nine, thirty thirteen,
forty seven, thirty forty six, twenty four. Those are full
game totals. So this is this is what they do,
and this is who they are, and this is what
NFC South football looks like. And I would keep pounding
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the under on Saints games, and especially UH Saints divisional games.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Jason obviously the the other game in the AFC North
battle in Pittsburgh, but it's all about Nick Chubb, the
injury that we've all seen the replay a couple of times,
expecting to hear the worst confirmed UH. But it's also
on the day that the NFL filed a grievance about
faking injuries. The timing, Yeah, timing unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Yeah, I mean, look, the league really is well, you know,
grow off like let's I mean, I don't know what
they think they can litigate and can't litigate or you know,
how we're going to get into this business like so
much of the CBA works in their pay you know,
and the team's benefits. Like what are we talking about here?
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And how are you gonna I don't even want to
go down that road. I mean, it's just it's it's
silly for them to think that something like that's going
to go anywhere. But this Nick Chubb injury looks devastating.
I feel terribly for him. This is now, you know,
appears to be his second catastrophic injury. He's their offense.
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Like I get that it's it's cool to like disparage
running backs and everything right and to minimize their worth.
And I understand why people don't, you know, want to
pay them a certain way and why there are boundaries,
et cetera. But that doesn't mean that they aren't special
players and that they aren't real difference makers. And this
guy is is there everything and it's not the two
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back attack that it used to be. And it's supposed
to be big boy football for their quarterback, but he's fraudulent.
So now I don't know what they're getting. I don't
know how they run this thing. Their offense last week
was Nick Chubb and the quarterback running you know this
week now, I don't know what they're doing because the
quarterback's not really scrambling and the Steelers athletic defense isn't
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going to let him do much, and he's horrible pushing
the ball down sealed. He makes terrible decisions. I can't
believe they were giving you plus one twenty for him
to throw a pick tonight. That's stealing money, like plus
one twenty five for the Jets to miss the playoffs,
So you know what I mean, I got to think
that's no longer. I mean, I cast that ticket two
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weeks in a row, but I don't think it'll be
there for me next week at those odds. And you
know they're going to have to try to win seventeen fourteen,
and the defense is really good, I don't know that
it's utterly transcendent. And I also wonder, like it's one
thing when you've got a paradigm like the Jets last year,
and you got to a kid quarterback on his rookie
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contract who was over overdrafted, and he's got limitations, you know,
but the defense he keeps fighting because maybe we can
win thirteen twelve, right. And it's one thing if you're
the Steelers and you're doing that for Kenny Pickett, when
that quarterback, who you might already have some personal problems with,
is the highest paid player in the history of your game,
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you know what I mean, and your owner BEDDB backwards
for him and capitulated for him, and put a contract
structure in place that entirely favors him, and he can't
complete a forward past, you know, more than ten yards.
I got to think that's the kind of thing that
might get a defense by about week nine, week ten
saying what the hell's going on here? You know, I
just don't know how that dynamic is going to play out.
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And it's a Jimmy Haslam operation and those ten to suck.
So I know there's a lot of people hyping the
Browns and the Rah lah rah, and then after week
one it went crazy. I don't know. I kind of
think you got to have a quarterback to win and
when you have the most overpaid quarterback in the league,
that's probably a problem.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Jason Locking for NFL inside with us here a Fox
Sports Radio. All right, so let's to widen this out
a little bit here now from the Browns to the
rest of the league, because this is what really sucks,
you know, for Nick Chubb the injury obviously all our
thoughts with him and and hopefully it's not as devastating
as it appeared to be, but for it to come
on the heels of the off season where the running
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backs all wanted to get paid. You're seeing the first
two weeks of the regular season where owners are saying,
why are we going to pay running backs?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Look, JK.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Dobbins is out for the year now you had this injury,
or say Kawhon Barkley's out for a while. We saw
lots of number ones get hurt. Eckler missed the game
on Sunday, David Montgomery's going to be out a while.
Like through two weeks, you're talking about a third of
the starting running backs in the league. These are all
number ones are all out for either a long period
of time or a decent amount of time. And and
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it doesn't help any of that night. I don't know
that there's a solution other than just if you're a
running back, you gotta go year to year. You gotta
ball out and stay healthy. I mean, I don't know
there's any other strategy for them.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
I think. But it's like the whole thing about Holden's
I mean, I don't like, I don't know how you
you legislate that, And I also don't know how you
legislate who owners do and don't want to pay. And
I mean, look at the earlier game. Jamal Williams left
that game early. I mean, like, yeah, it's a collision play.
Aaron Jones was the Packers offense week one. If Aaron
Jones plays against Atlanta, I think they win that game.
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But but you know what I mean, he didn't, and
the screen game wasn't quite the same, and the offense
dried up in the second. Like, you can't say they're
not important, because you can see the impact when you
go from having one who was to do everything for
down back to losing that guy. It clearly takes a
toll and makes a difference, but they're asked to. It's
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the ultimate collision position. In the ultimate collision sport. Go
run through this guy, Go run through that guy. Go
sell yourself out physically to stop that guy who's got
eighty pounds on you from running over your quarterback or
forty pounds on you or whatever. Like it's I mean,
I hate to say it is what it is, but
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it is. And no one's getting an Adrian Peterson contract
again for a long long time. Like I don't know
when we see the next one of those, if we
see the next one of those.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So with the Browns, just to bring it back to
the football side, Chubb down, what do they do they
get into the marketplace. I started seeing Jonathan Taylor's picture
all over my timeline.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Yeah, I don't know, Like I don't know what that
trade looks like. I don't know how that plays out.
Like they gave up a lot of collateral for the quarterback,
like the court, Like I mean, for what they've done,
the answer should be right, the quarterback can make You've
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got a Mark Cooper, You've got his who, You've got
Donovan People's jones, you know what I mean? Like what
are we? What are we? What are we talking about here?
Like I don't know, right, you got Bryant the other
tight end, like, what else is he's supposed to have.
He needs to have a best of breed running back too.
I don't I don't know. I don't know. If you're
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not finding another Nick Chobb, they're not going to run
the game any You look at his yards per carry
and what it is standing up historically, and it's significant.
You're not finding anybody who can do that for you.
It's not happening. So again, whether they can start pushing
the ball a little bit more at a twelve personnel
and getting heavy and throwing out of that, or whether
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they open it up and take more deep shots like
I don't know, but I know what Jakoby Brissett. Last year,
the offense scored like twice as many offensive points a
game than what it's done since. So I don't think
you're finding a running back who's going to flip that
script and get it back to what it was the
(24:53):
first ten games of last year.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You can fall him on Twitter at Jason lock In four.
That is at Jason Locke and for Odyssey, Washington Post,
NFL Insider Jay. As always, Buddy, appreciate your time, and hey,
I look forward to your eight hundred word breakdown on
the Undefeated three and oh start for Syracuse.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Hey, it was just talking to my daughter. She can't
believe it's a nude kickoff. She's like, oh my god,
that's so early.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
It's so early, nude.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Welcome to college.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
So early. But by the second quarter at least you'll
make it there. Get it, help to the dome.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Take it easy, buddy.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
We'll talk to you next week, say Jason.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
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was going on with Jason lock And fora Maybe, the
(25:52):
Browns found their initials solving of the running back problem,
with Nick Chubb being out Jerome four on what looked
to be a very pedestrian runner. He was gonna lose
a couple of yards running to the right. He cuts
it all the way back to the left and goes
seventy yards. He gets tripped up at the seven. He
(26:13):
goes forward and it looks like he's gonna be able
to dive into the end zone. But he dives and
the ball comes down about a half of a foot
shy of the goal line, so no toucht touchdown on
the seventy yard run by Ford. However, the Brown's able
to put it in the end zone to shun. Watson
on a scramble gets the final yard, so the Browns
(26:35):
now have the lead over the Steelers in the third
quarter of this game. Extra point pending ends. Jason TJ.
Clearly the Browns running game. Ford tough on that one.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
DJ.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
Forget about needing a big three at running back. They
just need Ford. Shocker a Ford broke down at the
finish line.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I know people like to want a Cadillac, but no
need for a Cadillac when you have a Ford.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, he did kind of slow up, so either he
was out of gas or really thought he was walking
into the end.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
Zone looking like he was leading a parade, running like
he was the president.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Ford goes down just shy of the goal line. People
forget Gerald Ford was the president. Wait a minute, I
I gotta explain to generating get factors who Gerald Ford was.
I'm going that far back.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You got to explain to millennials who Michael Thomas from
the Saints.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
And no, it's it.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
They had a big play and people were like, Hey,
let's go back in the way back machine.
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Six and a half to go into third quarter. Yeah,
(28:07):
Browns with the football and the lead. They leaded over
the Steelers twenty two to nineteen. The Dodgers just started
about twenty minutes ago. This game may end before the
football game does.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
This is the longest game of the year and it's
never even gonna be close. I mean, you think about it.
It's ten to eight, right, ten to eight for US,
ten to eleven on the East East Coast, game is
gonna go forever.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, we had a long review play right early in
the game that we had the Nick Chubb injury.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Then there was another play that should have been reviewed
and wasn't.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But yeah, you get all the way down and it
is a game that's crawling, a lot of incomplete passes,
gross inefficiency from both quarterbacks save one big play here
and there. And Lance Lynn he's already sweated through all
of his uniform and then some, but he is worked
against the Detroit Tigers and the soon to be retired
(29:03):
Miguel Camera.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Guys, this game is going so long that Nick Schubb
could come back for the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh oh, Frostburg, you're going to hell for that.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You're going to help.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
He's still bitter about yesterday.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Who's the salt frost all three of our teams, Frostburg
should be.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Hey, my team at least has a win. I'm holding up.
My team's holding up this entire show. With all your teams,
all your teams all steak. You're rowing to and you're
rowing to your team's owing to Di Seger. I told
you doesn't even follow sports, I mean teams. The only
team about stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I told you my team was gonna stake you get
trying to prop they and I think everybody's starting on.
I don't think anybody actually watched the game, but they're
very quitting the tough point out. Think how much they
think people in Chicago watched. I woke up this morning
so positive that I needed some balance in my life
that I went and watched it again.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Ah oh cup positive.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I'm happy, la la la. It's Monday morning. It's like,
you know what I need. I need to be kicked
in the backside one more time to.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Go watch a Chase Claypool breakout game.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And then when they needed him, he was called for
a penalty downfield blocking before a pass was thrown. And
then they called the same screen pass not once, not twice,
three times in a row.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
But we'll get to that in short order. So much
on the plate tonight.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Yeah, the U.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I felt like the entire world watched Colorado Colorado State
on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
They were there, which.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, every sick of fan, everybody looking for some image rehabilitation.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Sunglasses on sure, Colorado's America's team.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Now point five million dollars sunglasses America's team.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like we said from the beginning the for game one
against TCU. Colorado owns college football. They turned a game
that was a twenty four point runaway into a game
that seemed like it was a college football playoff semi final.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Look at this Colorado, Colorado State.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, now they're on the other side of one of
those twenty plus point spreads.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
It was insane.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
But the interest level in Colorado is still through the roof,
and you have the betting public is still backing Colorado
going into this weekend's game against Oregon. But the big
news today Colorado State University Police Department and local authorities
are looking into death threats against Colorado State dB Henry
Blackburn and his family following Blackburn's dirty hit on Travis
(31:17):
Hunter during the game on Saturday. That the hit that
knocked Hunter out of the game's gonna be out at
least three weeks. Was taken to the hospital. He's got
a lacerated liver. It was a dirty hit. It was
a dirty hit. He goes around his teammate to hit
Travis Hunter. It was dirty. Now you're talking death threats
and all this crazy stuff going on with Colorado State,
and you know, I go back to this is to
(31:39):
see the attention of what's happening now with Colorado and
Colorado State. Seeing Deon Sanders at the end of the game,
who was exhausted and looked like he had nothing left.
Right here, here's a game where again we talk about
every week being the super Bowl. This is kind of
what happens sometimes. But seeing where he's at and I'm
looking at him talk to talk to do the interview
(31:59):
with I think it was Least Salters after the game
and he said, look, you know, my kids are They
ask him about Judur Sanders Knight, who was unbelievable, and Shylow's.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Look, my kids are great. But this is a night
a win for all of us.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And I'm watching him talk and I'm saying, I think
he's now seeing the the other side of boy, when
when we want to stand up and say look at
me and I make every game personal, You're seeing the
other side of it for him, because for this game,
it was much more difficult than it had to be,
and you made it a big time emotional. You jacked
(32:31):
up the emotions for both your team in Colorado State.
And I'm not saying this is his fault because it's not.
It's a play that happened in the game and this
is a this is a bad play by Blackburn and
he needs some kind of suspension for it. But when
you want to make a game personal like that and
you want to amp up that, we hate you and
we're gonna kick your ass. Unfortunately, one of the byproducts
(32:51):
of that is players get extra after the whistle. And
this goes both ways. This goes This goes for Norvell too,
because he's the one started the whole thing. You get
your curricular stuff after the whistle, and unfortunately stuff like
this happens.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
When this was awful. For this to happen to Travis.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Hunter, well, I mean you go through and it's a hit.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
We see a lot of the all right, I'm gonna
stand up on the sideline, and obviously everybody takes it
to the extreme because of the injury that was sustained. Right,
if he gets back up and he's still playing, like, wow,
that was a tough hit, it's a little extra. Right,
you're gonna talk about it being a little extra. Now,
everybody wants him kicked out a football suspended multiple games.
He should be out as long as Hunter. Like all
(33:30):
of this stuff was like, all right, we watched these
games all the time, and there's hits like this all
over that one's not even one where he can get ejected, right,
He ends up getting juked later on the winner. But yeah,
the hype over the top ten personal file penalties.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
You get up too.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Hundred yards of penalties. You should have won the game
going away, we'll have more
Speaker 1 (33:52):
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Night Games in action right now. We're getting this a
couple of times this year, and in a game that
(00:30):
no one's watching, sorry, in a game that many of
you are.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Watching right now.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Make it a nineteen to nine lead for the Saints
over the Panthers with four minutes to go in the
fourth quarter. Chris Olave has just gone in from sixteen
yards out. They are this may come back because it
looks like he may have stepped out of bounds at
the three. In fact, it looks like it will come back.
So I think it's not going.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
To be a celebration.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's good, celebrate look good. They were very excited, very excited.
Derek Carr completed a forward pay it's good.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So it looks like it will come back, I'm sure
looking at this, but it is still the Saints leading
this one over the Panthers, and there's a lot to
get to here. We have Bryce Young, we have what's
going on in this one that really when I say
no one's watching, because everybody's watching. Everybody's tuned into what's
going on right now between the Steelers and the Browns
and a game that still is yet to hit halftime.
(01:22):
We still have some time left to go before halftime.
It is a very difficult game after what happened to
Nick Chubb. Now we're gonna play the audio for you. Obviously,
when you saw this on the broadcast tonight, you know
the games are on ABC and ESPN.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
With the two games tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They didn't show the replay because the replay was really,
really bad. Nick Chubb suffering a gruesome knee injury. Here
was the play that he was injured on.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
One of the best players in the game is being
carted off. And these fans here in Pittsburgh, I mean
so class sea.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
They saw the replay, They groaned.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
When they saw it.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
When Chubb got on the cart, they were channing Chubbs
for Nick Chubb, and they gave him a huge.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Ovation as he was carted away.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Got hit directly on the knee earlier in the game.
Here's the play where Nick Chubb is hurt. The replay
from the other side is not.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Good to see.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
It's a direct hit by Amenka Fitzpatrick on a planet
left leg right into the knee and his knee just
completely collapsed. Had to get carted off out for the
rest of the night and who knows how long.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So there was on ABC, Slash, ESPN Joe Buck Troy
Aikman with the call. Chubb was having a great game.
He was doing whatever he wanted. He was running downhill
and he goes in it's an average run and he
gets stopped and his knee bends in a way that
knees aren't supposed to bend. If you remember the Willis
McGahee injury, that's what it looked like. I mean, you
(03:01):
can see it if you want to on social media.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know you knew when this Well, we're not gonna
show the replay, Okay, Well people are gonna put.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It up on How quickly could the aggregators get it up?
I counted like three and a half seconds.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, we'll get clicks up.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So you knew was gonna come up there, which, you know, look,
I get it, it happened.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It's on TV.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You can make a decision to not show the replay.
I was fine not saying I actually saw it on accident,
like I didn't know. It just happened. Someone in my
timeline reposted it. And you know, when you scroll through
Twitter and you and you're real sorry x x X,
when you're throwing through x and you see stuff sometimes
that comes up it's like oh, and it was like here.
I was like, oh wow, So I actually saw it
by accident, but then it got on my timeline a
few more times by people posting it. So it's out
(03:42):
there if you want to go see it. Is it
an injury that we have seen before? Unfortunately it is now.
It was the best part of this was seeing Nick Chubb.
You know, look, he was obviously in a lot of pain,
but you saw him when they put him on the
cart and took him off. He was possessed of all
his faculties. He wasn't writhing in all kinds of pain.
(04:03):
He you know, obviously understands that he had a really
bad injury. Uh, you know, the adrenaline probably he is
keeping him going at that point.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So that was that was good, and hopefully he is okay.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
We don't know what the diagnos is going to be,
but I find it hard to believe we're going to
see him play football again this season for the Browns.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I mean really, I mean, you can.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Wind up saying, oh, it's a dislocation or this, but
I don't know that you can come back from an
injury like that and play this year. And for his future,
the guy's twenty eight, right, He's getting to late age
as a running back, and this is a need that
he hurt before earlier in his career that he had
rebuilt when he was in college. So to comfort to
see him come back and play, I mean, everybody's thoughts
and prayers hoping he can come back and play. You
(04:45):
hear a lot of great things said about him by
by everybody in the industry, and and and and things
he does off the field, So everybody's got prayers up
for him, and hopefully he gets better as soon as
he can. But boy, you think about his season, his
career is now something that you don't know if you're
go to see him back on the field.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
No, and he's a guy and listening as I was
on my way to the studio, you know, Kevin Harlan
Palsey goes, this is the best running back in football.
Like because he plays in Cleveland, maybe he doesn't get
the same juice, he doesn't catch as many balls as
McCaffrey or whatever. But when we go and we think
about the running back position, it's him and Henry are
(05:21):
the prototypes and the guys that harken back today's past.
And he has carried literally on his shoulders this Browns
team for a number of years now. The wins haven't followed,
but you know those that watch him between the lines,
I mean, that's about as good as it gets. So
this injury, also, you start get going down the highway.
(05:41):
And I saw this starting to take off in the
wake of the Henry Blackburn hit on Travis Hunter over
the weekend. Did make a Fitzpatrick need to go low
on Shubb on this hit, as like you're going to
take his legs out and near the goal line, right low,
You're trying to get a hit on him. So and
(06:03):
not malicious, not dirty, just his foot's planted and Unfortunately
you caught the sweet spot where everything goes awry. So
good thoughts to him, and you know, obviously will await
further word. Now it becomes the all right, how do
you cobble together? How do you respond emotionally? If you're
(06:23):
the Browns, you know, to get through the game. Having
watched that, I love the reaction from the Steelers crowd.
Obviously they saw the replay and groaned, but then once
that was away. I mean, you had the cheering and
respect for the player that they've watched terrorize them the
last couple of years. So good thoughts to him, and
(06:43):
now we'll get towards the recovery. Maybe he can be
like Aaron Rodgers and figure out a way to find
his way back.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Jordan Schultz, NFL inside of Front of the Show. We
had him on the show last week. Just put this
out on social media about three minutes ago. Sources tell
him the Browns fear Chubb season is over from a
possible knee dislocation, potentially with multiple ligament damage. He's currently
undergoing testing, but there is serious concern. Again, this from
(07:11):
Jordan Schultz a couple moments ago. Brown's fear Nick Chubb's
season over from a possible knee dislocation, potentially multiple ligament damage.
He is undergoing testing again. All kinds of thoughts and
prayers up for Nick Chubb and all of this, and
we'll bring you more when we have more as the
night progresses. The game just did go to halftime, Stealers
(07:31):
leading over the Brown sixteen fourteen. But you know, to
take this little wider and here here's what sucks even further, right,
because this is one of those a double blow here,
because you have the blow for Nick Chubb where he's
hurt and here, as you said, best running back in football,
and here he is now who knows we're going to
see him on the field again. Such attention in the
offseason spent on running backs getting new contracts right and
(07:54):
being taken care of because they play a high profile
a position when it comes to being injured. A lot
of it was that we talked about it, and I
remember saying that the only way for you to get
paid as a running back is to ball out, stay healthy,
and go year to year. That's how you have to
do it. That's the only way you can do it.
Ball out, stay healthy, and get paid year to year.
It sucks, but that's how you have to do it
(08:15):
because that's the only thing open to you. Now you
think about this. Now we are through just two weeks
of the season, and now you have Nick Chubb in
this injury. Sa Kuon Barkley, who we find out just
has an ordinary ankle sprain. But he's a guy who
was gonna hold out and was gonna hold out for money,
decided no, I'm gonna come in now his season.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Who knows what his season is like? Right? JK.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Dobbins is already out for the year as well. So
you're talking through three weeks, we've had three of the
most high profile number one running backs all suffer serious injuries.
And that sucks because what teams are gonna say is, yeah, see,
we kind of told you, you know why we can't
pay these guys can't stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
We can't pay And that's awful because nothing that's going
on in the first two weeks is gonna help running
backs get paid morning because they should get paid more money.
And and look, did they sign a bad deal for
the the CBA, Yes they did. They really got screwed
with that. But you know, you were hoping going in like, Okay,
guys ball out, have big years and get paid and
let's figure it out. So you have all these guys
so far who right now are are injured. And then
(09:16):
you got other guys who were out and just trying
to come back from you, guys like Aaron Jones who
was out a little bit right and you know, we
don't know David Montgomery.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You don't miss going to be Montgomery's gonna miss multiple weeks.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
All these ones they're all out now.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Now, then you see this injury in a primetime game
for the nation. You know a lot of high profile
Steelers haven't lost a home Monday night football game since
I was in college, all the way back to my
freshman year. When you when you get down to it,
I wasn't k yeah I was. I probably went out
(09:49):
and watched that game probably yeah. But this morning, right,
you have that serious injury, but you have a lot
of questions about, you know, how heard are people like
that was the Barkley, you know, speculation coming off at yesterday,
how bad is it? And even today more of the
is the one game because they're on a short week
with a Thursday night game against San Francisco or is
(10:11):
it multiple weeks, but you had an NFL grievance file
today accusing the NFLPA of advising running backs to fake
injuries to avoid practicing while negotiating new contracts. So now
you add that in the background of everything of all right,
now that it's gonna go to an arbiter, you're gonna
try to see if you can find a paper trail.
All of these things start flowing, and then you see
(10:35):
this big injury to Nick Chubb with there's no denying
the human leg doesn't bend that way. There's no you know,
no shenanigans that can possibly be paid. And that's unfortunately
the other side that they're they're now going to face
is well, how hurt are you? When we were talking
about the NBA and load management, like, what's gonna stop
(10:56):
guys from just walking out with an ice bag on
their leg?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, I'm I can't go.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But it now extends to the NFL where it's like,
all right, now we're questioning severity of ankle injuries in
week two.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, look, but it's it's there's no there's well, first
of all, you can't question this one, and secondly, there's
there's the thing is there's no way out to this.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
That that's that's the that's the side.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
That's the triple sucky part is that there's no way
out to it because owners are gonna say and teams
are gonna say, yeah, this is why we can't pay guys,
and players are gonna say, but we gotta find some
way for us to get paid sooner than we do. Okay,
well the CBA has come from the seven years, so
what what what what can you do? I'd be really
there there's no way out because there's there's no way
that Suddenly teams are gonna say, Okay, you're right, let's
(11:40):
do this because they say, we don't want to be
on the hook for money to pay a guy that
is not gonna play for us. I mean, because that's
the other part of it, you know, you don't they
don't want to have to say that, but that's a
big part going, yeah, we don't want to pay a
guy and forget about that, you know about winning about pay,
but we don't want to be on the hook for
a contract with a guy that gets.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I mean, that's that that's you don't they don't want
to have.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
To dead cap all of that stuff comes to.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
There's no there's no way forward. It's it's it's really
it's it's year to year, stay healthy and ball out.
That that's really what it is. And unfortunately it's becoming
more and more difficult to do. And and and there's
no there's not going to be any return to the
running back formula of Hey, the running backs are going
to come back and vogue. No, because of the the
(12:23):
propensity to injury, We're going to build around a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Who does.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Quarterbacks still get hurt, but they don't get hurt as
much as running backs do. It's a it's an easy
decision for them to do that. It's just it sucks.
I mean, there's no other word to say it. It sucks
for Nick Chubb, it sucks for running backs. But this
is where we are as far as that topic goes.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
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(13:10):
in the books. The Saints are kneeling on the football.
Taysom Hill just ran for a first down to clinch
it for the Saints. Bryce Young threw a touchdown, got
the two point conversion to make it twenty seventeen. However,
the Saints get the on side kick. Taysom Hill put
in it running back because of the injury to Jamal Williams.
No Kendre Millers still know obviously waiting for Alvin Kamara
(13:32):
after his suspension. I don't think mark Ingram is still
on the team, so there's working for Fox. So they
were down to Taysom Hill, who played running back in
the second half, their best player. And yeah, everybody in
fantasy's going wait is he running back down?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Well, I told you I got a note.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
There's like no, no, no this league and these administrators
they changed him to a quarterback. So he's only a quarterback,
so super flex all you want, but you're looking for
him as a tight ender running back, start writing your congressman.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Nine carries for seventy five yards to lead the Saints
in rushing. Leading rusher in the game is Taysom mill
Bryce Young falls to zero to two on the game
on the year for the Panthers. Meanwhile, the Steelers and
the Browns have just started the second half of mora.
Nick Chubb coming up in a second but joining us
now on the hot line to break it all, break
(14:24):
it all down. First time in seven years, the Baltimore
Orioles are in the postseason. It is Baltimore resident insider,
longtime NFL insider, Honesty Washington Post one of five to seven,
the fan in Baltimore, Jason locking for it, Jay, congratulations, buddy.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Oh, I appreciate it. And the boys celebrated as they should,
but long way to go. Let's let's get the division
and the one seed and the World Series Yo.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And series and then back to back World series all
the way through.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Yeah, let's let's have a parade.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So all right, So while you're celebrating, and you know,
I did see a little bit of controversy that they're
celebrating the playoffs, the Al East is still up for grabs.
I'm like, yeah, when you get in the playoffs once
every seven years, celebrate that.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, well you celebrate that.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I mean, and the way they won yesterday and you
know what that meant for them keeping their division lead
and everything else. Yeah, boys will be boys. I'm glad
they had something to celebrate. So yeah, consider me among
those not in the celebration police.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
All right, well, let's get to the game that's completed.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
We watched the Saints just put the victory over the
Panthers twenty to seventeen. What's your big takeaway from this game?
Tonight Saints go to two and oho, Panthers go to
Owen Town.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Look, the Saints went to the defense, and Derek Carr sucks,
and Derek Carr in the red zone really sucks. Uh.
And I didn't touch the Saints because I figured this
is a backdoor cover and it was. But thankfully it
stayed under It played out like I thought it would.
(16:06):
The safe defense since Week eight of last year is
pretty air tight. It's number one in the league in
yards per play. It's opposing quarterback rating of seventy, which
is first in the league. I mean, really, they're they're
they're pretty, they're pretty phenomenal nine point four percent sack
rate that's fifth in the league. They've allowed only now
(16:28):
eighteen offensive touchdowns since Week eight of last year. In
this one here, you know, was garbage time. They're not
superb against the run, but they're they're pretty damn good.
They get pressure, they make plays on the ball, and
offensively they're limited. So I think these are the kind
of of games they play. I mean, what this was
(16:51):
thirty seven thirty one last week. I've gone back to
last year now seventeen, thirty, twenty seven, thirty nine, thirty thirteen,
forty seven, thirty forty six, twenty four. Those are full
game totals. So this is this is what they do,
and this is who they are, and this is what
NFC South football looks like. And I would keep pounding
(17:15):
the under on Saints games, and especially UH Saints divisional games.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Jason obviously the the other game in the AFC North
battle in Pittsburgh, but it's all about Nick Chubb, the
injury that we've all seen the replay a couple of times,
expecting to hear the worst confirmed UH. But it's also
on the day that the NFL filed a grievance about
faking injuries. The timing, Yeah, timing unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Yeah, I mean, look, the league really is well, you know,
grow off like let's I mean, I don't know what
they think they can litigate and can't litigate or you know,
how we're going to get into this business like so
much of the CBA works in their pay you know,
and the team's benefits. Like what are we talking about here?
(18:04):
And how are you gonna I don't even want to
go down that road. I mean, it's just it's it's
silly for them to think that something like that's going
to go anywhere. But this Nick Chubb injury looks devastating.
I feel terribly for him. This is now, you know,
appears to be his second catastrophic injury. He's their offense.
(18:29):
Like I get that it's it's cool to like disparage
running backs and everything right and to minimize their worth.
And I understand why people don't, you know, want to
pay them a certain way and why there are boundaries,
et cetera. But that doesn't mean that they aren't special
players and that they aren't real difference makers. And this
guy is is there everything and it's not the two
(18:52):
back attack that it used to be. And it's supposed
to be big boy football for their quarterback, but he's fraudulent.
So now I don't know what they're getting. I don't
know how they run this thing. Their offense last week
was Nick Chubb and the quarterback running you know this
week now, I don't know what they're doing because the
quarterback's not really scrambling and the Steelers athletic defense isn't
(19:12):
going to let him do much, and he's horrible pushing
the ball down sealed. He makes terrible decisions. I can't
believe they were giving you plus one twenty for him
to throw a pick tonight. That's stealing money, like plus
one twenty five for the Jets to miss the playoffs,
So you know what I mean, I got to think
that's no longer. I mean, I cast that ticket two
(19:32):
weeks in a row, but I don't think it'll be
there for me next week at those odds. And you
know they're going to have to try to win seventeen fourteen,
and the defense is really good, I don't know that
it's utterly transcendent. And I also wonder, like it's one
thing when you've got a paradigm like the Jets last year,
and you got to a kid quarterback on his rookie
(19:53):
contract who was over overdrafted, and he's got limitations, you know,
but the defense he keeps fighting because maybe we can
win thirteen twelve, right. And it's one thing if you're
the Steelers and you're doing that for Kenny Pickett, when
that quarterback, who you might already have some personal problems with,
is the highest paid player in the history of your game,
(20:16):
you know what I mean, and your owner BEDDB backwards
for him and capitulated for him, and put a contract
structure in place that entirely favors him, and he can't
complete a forward past, you know, more than ten yards.
I got to think that's the kind of thing that
might get a defense by about week nine, week ten
saying what the hell's going on here? You know, I
just don't know how that dynamic is going to play out.
(20:38):
And it's a Jimmy Haslam operation and those ten to suck.
So I know there's a lot of people hyping the
Browns and the Rah lah rah, and then after week
one it went crazy. I don't know. I kind of
think you got to have a quarterback to win and
when you have the most overpaid quarterback in the league,
that's probably a problem.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Jason Locking for NFL inside with us here a Fox
Sports Radio. All right, so let's to widen this out
a little bit here now from the Browns to the
rest of the league, because this is what really sucks,
you know, for Nick Chubb the injury obviously all our
thoughts with him and and hopefully it's not as devastating
as it appeared to be, but for it to come
on the heels of the off season where the running
(21:16):
backs all wanted to get paid. You're seeing the first
two weeks of the regular season where owners are saying,
why are we going to pay running backs?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Look, JK.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Dobbins is out for the year now you had this injury,
or say Kawhon Barkley's out for a while. We saw
lots of number ones get hurt. Eckler missed the game
on Sunday, David Montgomery's going to be out a while.
Like through two weeks, you're talking about a third of
the starting running backs in the league. These are all
number ones are all out for either a long period
of time or a decent amount of time. And and
(21:45):
it doesn't help any of that night. I don't know
that there's a solution other than just if you're a
running back, you gotta go year to year. You gotta
ball out and stay healthy. I mean, I don't know
there's any other strategy for them.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
I think. But it's like the whole thing about Holden's
I mean, I don't like, I don't know how you
you legislate that, And I also don't know how you
legislate who owners do and don't want to pay. And
I mean, look at the earlier game. Jamal Williams left
that game early. I mean, like, yeah, it's a collision play.
Aaron Jones was the Packers offense week one. If Aaron
Jones plays against Atlanta, I think they win that game.
(22:17):
But but you know what I mean, he didn't, and
the screen game wasn't quite the same, and the offense
dried up in the second. Like, you can't say they're
not important, because you can see the impact when you
go from having one who was to do everything for
down back to losing that guy. It clearly takes a
toll and makes a difference, but they're asked to. It's
(22:38):
the ultimate collision position. In the ultimate collision sport. Go
run through this guy, Go run through that guy. Go
sell yourself out physically to stop that guy who's got
eighty pounds on you from running over your quarterback or
forty pounds on you or whatever. Like it's I mean,
I hate to say it is what it is, but
(23:00):
it is. And no one's getting an Adrian Peterson contract
again for a long long time. Like I don't know
when we see the next one of those, if we
see the next one of those.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So with the Browns, just to bring it back to
the football side, Chubb down, what do they do they
get into the marketplace. I started seeing Jonathan Taylor's picture
all over my timeline.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Yeah, I don't know, Like I don't know what that
trade looks like. I don't know how that plays out.
Like they gave up a lot of collateral for the quarterback,
like the court, Like I mean, for what they've done,
the answer should be right, the quarterback can make You've
(23:46):
got a Mark Cooper, You've got his who, You've got
Donovan People's jones, you know what I mean? Like what
are we? What are we? What are we talking about here?
Like I don't know, right, you got Bryant the other
tight end, like, what else is he's supposed to have.
He needs to have a best of breed running back too.
I don't I don't know. I don't know. If you're
(24:10):
not finding another Nick Chobb, they're not going to run
the game any You look at his yards per carry
and what it is standing up historically, and it's significant.
You're not finding anybody who can do that for you.
It's not happening. So again, whether they can start pushing
the ball a little bit more at a twelve personnel
and getting heavy and throwing out of that, or whether
(24:32):
they open it up and take more deep shots like
I don't know, but I know what Jakoby Brissett. Last year,
the offense scored like twice as many offensive points a
game than what it's done since. So I don't think
you're finding a running back who's going to flip that
script and get it back to what it was the
(24:53):
first ten games of last year.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You can fall him on Twitter at Jason lock In four.
That is at Jason Locke and for Odyssey, Washington Post,
NFL Insider Jay. As always, Buddy, appreciate your time, and hey,
I look forward to your eight hundred word breakdown on
the Undefeated three and oh start for Syracuse.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Hey, it was just talking to my daughter. She can't
believe it's a nude kickoff. She's like, oh my god,
that's so early.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
It's so early, nude.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Welcome to college.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
So early. But by the second quarter at least you'll
make it there. Get it, help to the dome.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Take it easy, buddy.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
We'll talk to you next week, say Jason.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
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(25:52):
Browns found their initials solving of the running back problem,
with Nick Chubb being out Jerome four on what looked
to be a very pedestrian runner. He was gonna lose
a couple of yards running to the right. He cuts
it all the way back to the left and goes
seventy yards. He gets tripped up at the seven. He
(26:13):
goes forward and it looks like he's gonna be able
to dive into the end zone. But he dives and
the ball comes down about a half of a foot
shy of the goal line, so no toucht touchdown on
the seventy yard run by Ford. However, the Brown's able
to put it in the end zone to shun. Watson
on a scramble gets the final yard, so the Browns
(26:35):
now have the lead over the Steelers in the third
quarter of this game. Extra point pending ends. Jason TJ.
Clearly the Browns running game. Ford tough on that one.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
DJ.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
Forget about needing a big three at running back. They
just need Ford. Shocker a Ford broke down at the
finish line.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I know people like to want a Cadillac, but no
need for a Cadillac when you have a Ford.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, he did kind of slow up, so either he
was out of gas or really thought he was walking
into the end.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
Zone looking like he was leading a parade, running like
he was the president.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Ford goes down just shy of the goal line. People
forget Gerald Ford was the president. Wait a minute, I
I gotta explain to generating get factors who Gerald Ford was.
I'm going that far back.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You got to explain to millennials who Michael Thomas from
the Saints.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
And no, it's it.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
They had a big play and people were like, Hey,
let's go back in the way back machine.
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Six and a half to go into third quarter. Yeah,
(28:07):
Browns with the football and the lead. They leaded over
the Steelers twenty two to nineteen. The Dodgers just started
about twenty minutes ago. This game may end before the
football game does.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
This is the longest game of the year and it's
never even gonna be close. I mean, you think about it.
It's ten to eight, right, ten to eight for US,
ten to eleven on the East East Coast, game is
gonna go forever.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, we had a long review play right early in
the game that we had the Nick Chubb injury.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Then there was another play that should have been reviewed
and wasn't.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But yeah, you get all the way down and it
is a game that's crawling, a lot of incomplete passes,
gross inefficiency from both quarterbacks save one big play here
and there. And Lance Lynn he's already sweated through all
of his uniform and then some, but he is worked
against the Detroit Tigers and the soon to be retired
(29:03):
Miguel Camera.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Guys, this game is going so long that Nick Schubb
could come back for the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh oh, Frostburg, you're going to hell for that.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You're going to help.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
He's still bitter about yesterday.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Who's the salt frost all three of our teams, Frostburg
should be.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Hey, my team at least has a win. I'm holding up.
My team's holding up this entire show. With all your teams,
all your teams all steak. You're rowing to and you're
rowing to your team's owing to Di Seger. I told
you doesn't even follow sports, I mean teams. The only
team about stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I told you my team was gonna stake you get
trying to prop they and I think everybody's starting on.
I don't think anybody actually watched the game, but they're
very quitting the tough point out. Think how much they
think people in Chicago watched. I woke up this morning
so positive that I needed some balance in my life
that I went and watched it again.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Ah oh cup positive.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I'm happy, la la la. It's Monday morning. It's like,
you know what I need. I need to be kicked
in the backside one more time to.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Go watch a Chase Claypool breakout game.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And then when they needed him, he was called for
a penalty downfield blocking before a pass was thrown. And
then they called the same screen pass not once, not twice,
three times in a row.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
But we'll get to that in short order. So much
on the plate tonight.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Yeah, the U.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I felt like the entire world watched Colorado Colorado State
on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
They were there, which.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, every sick of fan, everybody looking for some image rehabilitation.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Sunglasses on sure, Colorado's America's team.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Now point five million dollars sunglasses America's team.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like we said from the beginning the for game one
against TCU. Colorado owns college football. They turned a game
that was a twenty four point runaway into a game
that seemed like it was a college football playoff semi final.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Look at this Colorado, Colorado State.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, now they're on the other side of one of
those twenty plus point spreads.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
It was insane.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
But the interest level in Colorado is still through the roof,
and you have the betting public is still backing Colorado
going into this weekend's game against Oregon. But the big
news today Colorado State University Police Department and local authorities
are looking into death threats against Colorado State dB Henry
Blackburn and his family following Blackburn's dirty hit on Travis
(31:17):
Hunter during the game on Saturday. That the hit that
knocked Hunter out of the game's gonna be out at
least three weeks. Was taken to the hospital. He's got
a lacerated liver. It was a dirty hit. It was
a dirty hit. He goes around his teammate to hit
Travis Hunter. It was dirty. Now you're talking death threats
and all this crazy stuff going on with Colorado State,
and you know, I go back to this is to
(31:39):
see the attention of what's happening now with Colorado and
Colorado State. Seeing Deon Sanders at the end of the game,
who was exhausted and looked like he had nothing left.
Right here, here's a game where again we talk about
every week being the super Bowl. This is kind of
what happens sometimes. But seeing where he's at and I'm
looking at him talk to talk to do the interview
(31:59):
with I think it was Least Salters after the game
and he said, look, you know, my kids are They
ask him about Judur Sanders Knight, who was unbelievable, and Shylow's.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Look, my kids are great. But this is a night
a win for all of us.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And I'm watching him talk and I'm saying, I think
he's now seeing the the other side of boy, when
when we want to stand up and say look at
me and I make every game personal, You're seeing the
other side of it for him, because for this game,
it was much more difficult than it had to be,
and you made it a big time emotional. You jacked
(32:31):
up the emotions for both your team in Colorado State.
And I'm not saying this is his fault because it's not.
It's a play that happened in the game and this
is a this is a bad play by Blackburn and
he needs some kind of suspension for it. But when
you want to make a game personal like that and
you want to amp up that, we hate you and
we're gonna kick your ass. Unfortunately, one of the byproducts
(32:51):
of that is players get extra after the whistle. And
this goes both ways. This goes This goes for Norvell too,
because he's the one started the whole thing. You get
your curricular stuff after the whistle, and unfortunately stuff like
this happens.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
When this was awful. For this to happen to Travis.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Hunter, well, I mean you go through and it's a hit.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
We see a lot of the all right, I'm gonna
stand up on the sideline, and obviously everybody takes it
to the extreme because of the injury that was sustained. Right,
if he gets back up and he's still playing, like, wow,
that was a tough hit, it's a little extra. Right,
you're gonna talk about it being a little extra. Now,
everybody wants him kicked out a football suspended multiple games.
He should be out as long as Hunter. Like all
(33:30):
of this stuff was like, all right, we watched these
games all the time, and there's hits like this all
over that one's not even one where he can get ejected, right,
He ends up getting juked later on the winner. But yeah,
the hype over the top ten personal file penalties.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
You get up too.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Hundred yards of penalties. You should have won the game
going away, we'll have more
Speaker 1 (33:52):
On this and a big breakdown of a big NFL
game from yesterday next
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