September 19, 2023 • 21 mins
Jason explains why he NEVER wants to talk about DeShaun Watson again after tonight. Kenny Pickett is no good. And Colorado State DB Henry Blackburn has been receiving death threats over his late hit that sent Travis Hunter to the hospital with a lacerated liver.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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more on the late breaking news involving Colorado in a
few minutes, But we watched two Monday night games tonight.
The less said about the Panthers and the Saints, the better, uh.
And we had our fair share of drama with the
Steelers twenty six twenty two win over the Cleveland Brown.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Some really terrible play, bad decision making on both sides,
really we got to the end of it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Really bad quarterbacking on both sides, because the quarterbacks for
both of these teams are not good. I'm sorry. You
can't keep propping up Kenny Pickett, he's just not good.
Can't keep propping up to Shaun Watson. He's had enough
time to show coming back that he's a jag. Both
of these guys are just okay. Deshaun Watson is no
longer dynamic. Kenny Pickett was never dynamic. Steelers and their
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fans and wanted to make excuses for Kenny Pickett. Oh,
he's not throwing interceptions, but nobody's not getting the team
in the end zone. They won tonight. They won tonight
because they had two defensive touchdowns. That's why they won tonight.
Deshaun Watson was a great player, didn't play for a while,
never got it back. Something to be said for the
karma that hey, here's a guy that the Browns are
now stuck into for a lot of money and now
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he's just a guy. And that's the thing is these guys,
that's what they are. They're just guys.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
He realized the Steelers did not have a red zone
possession tonight. You don't see that very often an NFL game,
no matter how we TJ.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Watt had a red zone possession at.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
The end, Well, he did have a nice scoop and
score and off he went. Yeah that was good for him.
But yeah, it's it was an ugly game that was
preceded by an ugly game.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean, look, at least the second game was
with two teams that were a little bit more watchable
it was. The first game was just wow. Chant the
Panthers Okay, I mean the Panthers offense is abysmal. The
Saints defense is good, and we've seen that, and that's
gonna be where they're.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's grossly overrated and overloved. And Derek Carr, Rice Young,
I don't know, I don't know what he is. He's
under duress every play and we got more family shots
of his jury that game. You might as well done
the picture and picture on his family after every play.
But has the touchdown pass you get the two point
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conversion in the end, you have a push and maybe
maybe you got it at two and a half or
three and a half wherever, so you might have had
an outcome, But for the most part, a push with
the three point final.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
But Derek Carr was awful again, right, your star of
the game.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's hard to you know, and we watched two games
that it's it's hard to you know, we've become football
snobs now where watching games with bad quarterbacks. That's a
real buzzkill, man, it's a I get that. There's the
football purists to want to fight. Hey, look how good
this defensive play. I understand, But the average NFL fan,
you're talking about these Monday night games going across the country,
everybody watched, and we used to be able to put
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up with bad quarterback play, and now it's such a turnoff.
Oh dude, we got bad quarterback. But yeah, I don't care.
It's like, like, don't offend me with this horrible quarterback play.
But you know what part of it you were able
to shield yourself to a degree because once upon a
time you only had several games that you were able
to watch, and generally, when we're talking about national windows,
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you weren't getting full trash, right, you were able to
shield yourself from some of that because you weren't those
weren't being played in a national window. Oh this game
was thirteen to ten, Your final a couple of defensive touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's field goals. Did we get see it?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Nope, it was in Carolina early in the day, so
we didn't have it. Now everything's available to you on
all the streaming devices every game you want to get
to subject yourself to. Here, I've got a giant grid
up on my TV and my head on a swivel.
I may not be paying one hundred percent attention each
of these games, but damn it, in my peripheral vision,
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I see how bad they are.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And that's what we're getting now.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Now for Watson specifically, all right, now, he's a guy
who was incredibly talented then didn't play for a long
time after all his legal difficulties, and again that's something
that's gone over. Yeah, I I'm stunned he's in the league.
I'm stunned that he got the money he did. But
we've seen enough of him now coming back the way
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last year, complete offseason into this year. He's not good.
He doesn't have any of the dynamism that he used
to have to his game. He'll make a play once
in a while, like the touchdown run he had tonight.
He'll make a play like that once in a while,
but by and large, he's just a guy. He's not
very accurate. Look at the final play of the game
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on a fourth down where you got to complete it's
it's a it's a it's a win or lose play,
and he throws it out of bounds and uncatchable ball
to his receiver wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Social world now though, but wondering whether Joey Porter or
Junior should have been flagged.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
No, I've got to no, no, no, But but the
whole thing is you threw a ball that was uncatchable
on fourth down where you have to throw a ball
that's catchable. This is who he is. He's not acting, say,
same as Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett's not accurate. They too long.
But but Watson specifically, it's it's been such a big
fall and you're stuck because you guaranteed him all of
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that mine. I'm not saying I feel bad for the Browns. No,
you wanted to give him that money.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You own it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Now, you own it. Now. You gave him that money,
Now you own that. You have a guy that, maybe
at his best, is close to being an average quarterback.
But if you watch him play and you didn't know anything,
and I said, okay, here, watch Deshaun Watson. What do
you think he looks like a guy that I would
say he plays like a player who was maybe a
high draft pick this year or the year before. And
he's they're still trying to see if he can become
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a good quarterback. That looks like that's what he looks
like justin fields. More than justin fields, at least running
for one hundred yards a game for the most.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Part, unfortunately. But but this is for Watson.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's it's so it's so easy to see that after
all this time away, he just hasn't gotten that part
of his game back. And you're you, you can't be
a zero sum quarterback. You can't be a guy that well,
I won't hurt our team. No, no, no, you got
to get it in the end zone. Yeah, you can't hit,
just be a guy that hands the ball off. You
gotta get in the end zone. And it looks like
that part of his game has gone. I've seen enough
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of him now, the last the last the last couple
of weeks, and then you look at what we last
year when he came back to play in Week eleven
that I don't know if that's coming.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Back well, indecisive, dancing around the pocket, waiting for some
parting of the red Sea, and against Pittsburgh, you're not
getting that time right, that extra second that you think
you're buying to get your guy a little bit of
a breaking containment down field, whether it's more Cooper or
whoever your would be target is guess what.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
TJ.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Watts jumping on your back. That defensive front is jumping
on you and disrupting you, uh and and taking you
off your paces where you're then skipping the ball in
harmlessly or sailing it out of bounds. So, as you said,
the dyna dynamism, good work.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You like that.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, it's five hour work, like a five hour milkshake.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But it's one of those that you look at the
guy that once was winging the ball around the yard
and with great success, great accuracy. Back he and DeAndre
Hopkins getting it done. That that guy doesn't look like
he's in that it's in that suit anymore. It's a
different guy, doesn't have that same explosiveness and consistency. Right,
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makes one or two big plays and you're looking all right,
they might get a drive here. Nope, next ball is
sailed out of bounds. The next he's absorbing another sack,
get rid of a ball like you're a veteran quarterback.
That's the other thing that driven me nuts through two
weeks of the NFL is the number of veteran quarterbacks.
Instead of saying, you know what, I'm gonna flip it
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out of bounds and live to see another day, they're
just turtling and taking the sack.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
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Speaker 1 (08:52):
Now, if that was just it for Deshaun Watson, that
would be enough. The guy's at jag now.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
But wait, there's more.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Second half of tonight's game, he got into a bit
of a disagreement with the Steelers sideline and you can
see that. You can see this on social media. It
looks like he's having a back and forth with George
Pickens because it looks like he's yelling at Pickens. When
a play comes close to the sideline, Pickens puts his
hands up in the air almost like they're talking. And
he just did that reference for whatever reason, and Deshaun
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Watson gets mad. He's yelling at the sideline. The official
steps between Deshaun Watson and the Steelers Sidlin. Now there's
nobody else out there, there's nobody else walking on the field.
Mike Tomlin is standing right there, so he's just kind
of pushing Deshaun Watson back. Now the official doesn't know
who's behind it, but it's really just Deshaun Watson that
he's trying to control. I understand that the official when
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he puts his hands on a player to break something up,
there's a little bit of gray area because the player
you're you're you're allowed to put your hands on the player.
The player can't put his hands on you.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
So there's a little bit of gray area there where.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Sometimes if a player stands his ground and wants to
point at the other guy and the officials got his
hands on him, that's okay. But what sh Sean Watson
does is he doesn't care for this, and he grabs
the official by by both hands and tries to throw
him to the side, and he stays in the game,
and that's an automatic ejection. How you get if all
those things I just laid out, Hey, those are things
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I can see where if you want to leave the
guy in the game. I get it, But Deshaun Watson
grabs the official push him to the side like he's
another player, and I can do He was out of
control of the entire game. Had two face mass penalties
to Shawn Watson, and he had this and somehow the
official allows him to stay in the game. Now, the
officials got to think quick on that. On that time,
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he's got to think that, all right, am I gonna
throw the starting quarterback of this team out of the game?
Am I gonna do that? Which? Yes, because he put
his hands on you and threw you to the side.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
But that's probably why do you recognize the big implications
of doing such?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And also you wonder what was said around it was
something happened that you got to give him a little
bit of leeway because something was said, whatever it was.
Those are the only two reasons I can see the
official not throwing to Shawn Watson out of the game.
Watch put his hands on the officials one right, he
was And the games in Pittsburgh. Don't forget the game
was it? Yeah? Game was in Pittsburgh too. So before
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we get into more of this, this is exactly what happened.
You can see the replay on there. There's no excuse
for it. This is when you get thrown out of
a game. This is when officials have to be able
to stand up and say, we're keeping this game in order.
I'm sorry, you're the quarterback, you're out of control, You're
out of the game.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Here's Deshaun Watson following the game as to what happened.
Uh to cause that exchange back and forth between he
and the Steelers sideline.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
No, me and the ref is having conversation. There was
no contact with the ref. No, we were having conversation.
The whole thing on the sideline was and I'm not
going to get into it. You know, we spoke about it. Man,
that coach for the Stillers, So we're on good terms,
you know. I'm not gonna speak on that. But yeah,
we wasn't. There was no contact with the ref. Yeah,
what me and were talking about? You just get me
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on the way. And I was just lett him know
what was going on?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Come on, hey, do you have the musical interpretation of
what he was saying right there?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
He happen to have that any.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Because I mean, there was no contact with the ref.
Nobody could pull up their phone fasted Hey, dude, it's right.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Here, it's all right here. They're all showing here, it's
all right here, it's all right here.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Just ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Hey, in the heat of the moment, maybe he doesn't
know what he did that I pushed the ref off
of me. I probably should have done that. But in
the time from the end of the game to get there,
someone's got to tell him, Heyden, you're gonna get this
question all right.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
That nobody on the field gave him garbage about it
right after, Boy, you got away with one there. I
can't believe there wasn't a single player on his team
or on the Steelers that didn't bring that up in
the moment I was being ushered away.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't I don't get how he can say that
and just think that, Look, well, look, we're in an
age now in the world where where where I could
say it's sunny out and the sun is out middle
in the sky, that's great, and I'm sweating, and someone
would say, no, no, it's cloudy, and there'll be enough people.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
To say, right, it's cloudy, it's cloud yes. In Los Angeles.
I mean, that's just small. I can just lie. I
can just lie, And what are what are you gonna
do to me? You didn't throw me out of the game,
you know, what are you gonna do to me? Well,
that's like we always tell you what your sauce gardener
holding battle if they don't call it likewise air.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I mean I didn't I didn't touch it official. Did
he throw me out?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean that that shouldn't touch should have been the response,
not hang on, I didn't touch it, But didn't they
throw me out?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Twice? Twice? He said there was no contact with you.
What do you mean we were having a conversation what
it was the other about? Man, Like, We're like, what
the hell are you talking about? He should get suspended
just for lying in his postgame press comm just for
you know what, you get suspended for shoving the ref
and for lying and trying to treat us like we're stupid.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
By the way, everybody took the low hanging fruit in
terms of the contact with the official, So all those
jokes are played out.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Just let him go, folks.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I mean, I don't understand how you This is a
guy who who gave the benefit, who gave a gift
to there and now he's just throwing out there like yep,
and I'm ratching it up and I'm gonna insult you,
and I'm gonna insult every single one. I mean, I have.
I really I hate even talking about Deshaun Watson, but
he's a conversation to night because of what happened on
the field. I hate even talking about the guy. I
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really do, especially after something like this. I hate even
talking about the guy because it's not his fault. He
didn't get thrown out. That's on the officials, right, But
when you sit here and say I didn't touch it,
you didn't, dude, I wish he was not even playing.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You're not flying.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
If you believe it's true, he's going focus Stanza.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
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Speaker 1 (14:43):
Kenny Pickets no Good tries to get propped up by
all Steelers fans. He'll get sacked over here now throwing
the dirt over here. Now how he gets credited? I
have not a clue, Fox Sports Radio, why do you
hate him?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Said?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I was Kenny Pickett steaks, But it.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Seems like you have personal animates against you know this
whole dazed and anti Kenny Pickett take pickets no good
for a long time.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
You steal your girlfriends and a lot. No come on,
Kenny Picketts, what he was sandwich?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You got tiny baby heads and the gloves.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Jason, Why would you disrespect Jimmy Buffett like that?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Ken I was.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I was free starting Kenny Pickett over his lyrics.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I kind of had to. We're talking about Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Look, we talked about Deshaun Watson. He stinks he shouldn't
have been playing in the game after he grabbed an
official then lied about it after the game. I don't
know what to say about that. I hate even talking
about the guy. Kenny Pickett's different. Kenny Pickett is is
a player who stealers, and the fans and the media
have wanted to prop up all off season. And that's
why I'll get I get a lot of people my
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timeline getting mad at me. People that people at this
radio at our radio network going you, okay, man when
I say something bad about Kenny Pickett, and I'm like, okay,
maybe I should go back that person now and say, hey,
you want to have this conversation again, Kenny Pickett stinks.
Kenny with people at the networks, Kenny Pickett stinks. Okay,
I mean high level people at the network, high highest people,
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highest level of people. Higher, really higher than Steve de Seger. Okay,
that's pretty high. Watch the game. You watch the game tonight.
Kenny Pickett the same guy he was last year. He's
not dynamic. He doesn't make plays. When a receiver is
wide open, he can hit him. That's Kenny Pickett. Look
at all the bait when Kenny Pickett. When there's a
receiver wide open and Kenny Pickett's and he can throw.
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He can throw the ball there. But ask him to
put something in a window, in a tighter window, and
he'll skip it, he'll overthrow it, he'll hold he'll hold
onto the ball too long because he can't do it
and wait for the play to break down and think
that something else is going to happen. Better, And he's
not good throwing on the run.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Well right now good And that makes him equal with
about half the league through where we're at. But this
in terms of me waiting for something to happen that
never does, and don't do that in your own life.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
It's America. That is life advice. Man, don't wait, make
it happen today.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But this is who Kenny Pick it is. And the
confusion that's been made between to look at last year
when he got better. No, he just stopped throwing interceptions.
So yeah, but we won games. Yeah, you can't win
games like that in the end of it. You don't
go to the playoffs and win playoff games with the quarterback.
That stinks. But the fact that every year the Steelers
win nine ish games, right where nine wins or ten
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wins or nine wins, we're eight wins. We're not. We
don't finish under five hundred. They are continually thinking that, oh,
we just need minor tweaks to get to where we're going,
and you don't. You need bigger changes than that. You
need a bigger change at quarterback. You need a bigger change.
Your defense is good, You need a bigger change with
with with performers on offense. Some of your skill players
are good, some of them aren't. You keep propping out, Oh, Nauja,
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just give Naji Harris another year, another year. Everybody wishes
they played for the Steelers because the Steelers are the
most patient organization.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
In the world. They wait for everybody.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Naja naja, Harrison any is gonna trump? You say, you
don't go tell me that. Jerry Jones is not more patient.
He is and loving, and he is loving, and that's right,
he loves you. But Pittsburgh gets lulled into that. So
it's like, oh, we just think we just need some
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minor tweaks, and the entire offseason it was, well, Kenny
Pickett takes us, so we're gonna win the division next year.
Kenny Pickett's the same guy. He is the same guy,
second year guy. He's not two games, he's not good.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
He wasn't good. Was it good against San Francisco? And
he wasn't good tonight? But we won. Doesn't matter. You
won because you've got two defensive touchdowns. Yeah, you can't say,
but we won. And that's you know, they don't say
that for quarterbacks. Look how many wins the quarterback got?
No quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Are did we start doing that? Quarter quarterback wins and
playoff wins.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And quarterbacks quarterback wins.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, except when you want to compare guys who don't
win a lot. That's when we go to Stashy.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Week one, when Zach Wilson beat the Bills. Zach will No,
no no. I've always said Zach Wilson is not very good.
Well a couple, but no, no no, I said he
stinks and got them going out. He's the best option
for the Jets right now. But it doesn't mean it's
a great It doesn't mean option. He's the best option.
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It's like saying, Okay, what can I eat for lunch?
I can eat something Alex Tischer has prepared, or I
can have ice cubes?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Why you got Dragged Shirt?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Because I would say, well, he picks well from the
local markets.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I would know you're eating both.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I would say, Okay, something ty shirt has made or
ice cubes. While I'm hungry, I'll eat what ty Shirt's made.
It's not a great choice. It's not my favorite choice,
but it's the best choice because I'd rather have whatever
he's got than ice cubes, because maybe there's something in
there I can like and not at the throw though,
scrape it all up my plate and throw it away,
pull the seaweed out of whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I don't know what seaweed.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I can't stand to seaweed. Smell is terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Are you kidding, you know what, you know what, Go
in the ocean and open your mouth when you're in
the ocean and tell me like that taste. No, it's
exactly the same. It's exactly like fish, exactly like fishy.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Do you like fish not seaweed?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Because it fish that's cooked so it doesn't taste too fishy.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But it's both from the ocean smells like the right.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
But you can make fish where it doesn't taste too fishy.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
He's he likes the butter more than the worst part.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, listen, fish is just a vehicle to get the
butter in my mouth.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Okay, what about fish in a bag?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Fishing better not as good as chicken in a bag,
As we found out, I like that. I like that
chicken in a bag from Harmon.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I was trying to give you some Carrying a bucket
chicken in the cokes a little more difficult. I thought
you had handles on the bag. Hey, to have a
bag of chicken.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Is there a way I can get all those great
pieces of chicken in one place. Oh, yes, you can
get it in a bag of chicken, right.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Have you?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You've never had anybody hands you a bag with three
cokes in a bag of chili and a bag of chicken.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Uh, look, just just keep watching Kenny. Nothing's going to change.
He's going to be the same guy. And the more
games of Steelers win, their fans will convince themselves and say,
oh see, well, problems that we're still winning, We're still well.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, at least for tonight it became blame Canada,
blame and nobody heard it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, blame anybody but the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Everybody in the locker room said they never heard it.
It's pretty clear might as well have been the Robin
Williams version that he did on.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
That Awards show. Nobody Watson pushing a rap either.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, I'll tell you everybody watched justin fields. Blame the
offensive cord Air for that last pick that he had
on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Hey man, I can just blame me twenty twenty three.
That's all we're doing. Everybody's finger pointing. And now, like
I joked about it this morning, I put it up
the Spider Man meme right now between Sean Bayton and
Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Spider Man, you can't coach? Yeah, you neither can you.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Who's the third guy in? Is it?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Eber fluses in Canada. Who do we want in that
third spot in Canada? Pointing at each other? That's true.
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more on the late breaking news involving Colorado in a
few minutes, But we watched two Monday night games tonight.
The less said about the Panthers and the Saints, the better, uh.
And we had our fair share of drama with the
Steelers twenty six twenty two win over the Cleveland Brown.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Some really terrible play, bad decision making on both sides,
really we got to the end of it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Really bad quarterbacking on both sides, because the quarterbacks for
both of these teams are not good. I'm sorry. You
can't keep propping up Kenny Pickett, he's just not good.
Can't keep propping up to Shaun Watson. He's had enough
time to show coming back that he's a jag. Both
of these guys are just okay. Deshaun Watson is no
longer dynamic. Kenny Pickett was never dynamic. Steelers and their
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fans and wanted to make excuses for Kenny Pickett. Oh,
he's not throwing interceptions, but nobody's not getting the team
in the end zone. They won tonight. They won tonight
because they had two defensive touchdowns. That's why they won tonight.
Deshaun Watson was a great player, didn't play for a while,
never got it back. Something to be said for the
karma that hey, here's a guy that the Browns are
now stuck into for a lot of money and now
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he's just a guy. And that's the thing is these guys,
that's what they are. They're just guys.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
He realized the Steelers did not have a red zone
possession tonight. You don't see that very often an NFL game,
no matter how we TJ.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Watt had a red zone possession at.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
The end, Well, he did have a nice scoop and
score and off he went. Yeah that was good for him.
But yeah, it's it was an ugly game that was
preceded by an ugly game.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean, look, at least the second game was
with two teams that were a little bit more watchable
it was. The first game was just wow. Chant the
Panthers Okay, I mean the Panthers offense is abysmal. The
Saints defense is good, and we've seen that, and that's
gonna be where they're.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's grossly overrated and overloved. And Derek Carr, Rice Young,
I don't know, I don't know what he is. He's
under duress every play and we got more family shots
of his jury that game. You might as well done
the picture and picture on his family after every play.
But has the touchdown pass you get the two point
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conversion in the end, you have a push and maybe
maybe you got it at two and a half or
three and a half wherever, so you might have had
an outcome, But for the most part, a push with
the three point final.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
But Derek Carr was awful again, right, your star of
the game.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's hard to you know, and we watched two games
that it's it's hard to you know, we've become football
snobs now where watching games with bad quarterbacks. That's a
real buzzkill, man, it's a I get that. There's the
football purists to want to fight. Hey, look how good
this defensive play. I understand, But the average NFL fan,
you're talking about these Monday night games going across the country,
everybody watched, and we used to be able to put
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up with bad quarterback play, and now it's such a turnoff.
Oh dude, we got bad quarterback. But yeah, I don't care.
It's like, like, don't offend me with this horrible quarterback play.
But you know what part of it you were able
to shield yourself to a degree because once upon a
time you only had several games that you were able
to watch, and generally, when we're talking about national windows,
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you weren't getting full trash, right, you were able to
shield yourself from some of that because you weren't those
weren't being played in a national window. Oh this game
was thirteen to ten, Your final a couple of defensive touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's field goals. Did we get see it?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Nope, it was in Carolina early in the day, so
we didn't have it. Now everything's available to you on
all the streaming devices every game you want to get
to subject yourself to. Here, I've got a giant grid
up on my TV and my head on a swivel.
I may not be paying one hundred percent attention each
of these games, but damn it, in my peripheral vision,
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I see how bad they are.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And that's what we're getting now.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Now for Watson specifically, all right, now, he's a guy
who was incredibly talented then didn't play for a long
time after all his legal difficulties, and again that's something
that's gone over. Yeah, I I'm stunned he's in the league.
I'm stunned that he got the money he did. But
we've seen enough of him now coming back the way
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last year, complete offseason into this year. He's not good.
He doesn't have any of the dynamism that he used
to have to his game. He'll make a play once
in a while, like the touchdown run he had tonight.
He'll make a play like that once in a while,
but by and large, he's just a guy. He's not
very accurate. Look at the final play of the game
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on a fourth down where you got to complete it's
it's a it's a it's a win or lose play,
and he throws it out of bounds and uncatchable ball
to his receiver wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Social world now though, but wondering whether Joey Porter or
Junior should have been flagged.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
No, I've got to no, no, no, But but the
whole thing is you threw a ball that was uncatchable
on fourth down where you have to throw a ball
that's catchable. This is who he is. He's not acting, say,
same as Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett's not accurate. They too long.
But but Watson specifically, it's it's been such a big
fall and you're stuck because you guaranteed him all of
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that mine. I'm not saying I feel bad for the Browns. No,
you wanted to give him that money.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You own it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Now, you own it. Now. You gave him that money,
Now you own that. You have a guy that, maybe
at his best, is close to being an average quarterback.
But if you watch him play and you didn't know anything,
and I said, okay, here, watch Deshaun Watson. What do
you think he looks like a guy that I would
say he plays like a player who was maybe a
high draft pick this year or the year before. And
he's they're still trying to see if he can become
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a good quarterback. That looks like that's what he looks
like justin fields. More than justin fields, at least running
for one hundred yards a game for the most.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Part, unfortunately. But but this is for Watson.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's it's so it's so easy to see that after
all this time away, he just hasn't gotten that part
of his game back. And you're you, you can't be
a zero sum quarterback. You can't be a guy that well,
I won't hurt our team. No, no, no, you got
to get it in the end zone. Yeah, you can't hit,
just be a guy that hands the ball off. You
gotta get in the end zone. And it looks like
that part of his game has gone. I've seen enough
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of him now, the last the last the last couple
of weeks, and then you look at what we last
year when he came back to play in Week eleven
that I don't know if that's coming.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Back well, indecisive, dancing around the pocket, waiting for some
parting of the red Sea, and against Pittsburgh, you're not
getting that time right, that extra second that you think
you're buying to get your guy a little bit of
a breaking containment down field, whether it's more Cooper or
whoever your would be target is guess what.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
TJ.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Watts jumping on your back. That defensive front is jumping
on you and disrupting you, uh and and taking you
off your paces where you're then skipping the ball in
harmlessly or sailing it out of bounds. So, as you said,
the dyna dynamism, good work.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You like that.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, it's five hour work, like a five hour milkshake.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But it's one of those that you look at the
guy that once was winging the ball around the yard
and with great success, great accuracy. Back he and DeAndre
Hopkins getting it done. That that guy doesn't look like
he's in that it's in that suit anymore. It's a
different guy, doesn't have that same explosiveness and consistency. Right,
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makes one or two big plays and you're looking all right,
they might get a drive here. Nope, next ball is
sailed out of bounds. The next he's absorbing another sack,
get rid of a ball like you're a veteran quarterback.
That's the other thing that driven me nuts through two
weeks of the NFL is the number of veteran quarterbacks.
Instead of saying, you know what, I'm gonna flip it
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out of bounds and live to see another day, they're
just turtling and taking the sack.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
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Speaker 1 (08:52):
Now, if that was just it for Deshaun Watson, that
would be enough. The guy's at jag now.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
But wait, there's more.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Second half of tonight's game, he got into a bit
of a disagreement with the Steelers sideline and you can
see that. You can see this on social media. It
looks like he's having a back and forth with George
Pickens because it looks like he's yelling at Pickens. When
a play comes close to the sideline, Pickens puts his
hands up in the air almost like they're talking. And
he just did that reference for whatever reason, and Deshaun
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Watson gets mad. He's yelling at the sideline. The official
steps between Deshaun Watson and the Steelers Sidlin. Now there's
nobody else out there, there's nobody else walking on the field.
Mike Tomlin is standing right there, so he's just kind
of pushing Deshaun Watson back. Now the official doesn't know
who's behind it, but it's really just Deshaun Watson that
he's trying to control. I understand that the official when
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he puts his hands on a player to break something up,
there's a little bit of gray area because the player
you're you're you're allowed to put your hands on the player.
The player can't put his hands on you.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
So there's a little bit of gray area there where.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Sometimes if a player stands his ground and wants to
point at the other guy and the officials got his
hands on him, that's okay. But what sh Sean Watson
does is he doesn't care for this, and he grabs
the official by by both hands and tries to throw
him to the side, and he stays in the game,
and that's an automatic ejection. How you get if all
those things I just laid out, Hey, those are things
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I can see where if you want to leave the
guy in the game. I get it, But Deshaun Watson
grabs the official push him to the side like he's
another player, and I can do He was out of
control of the entire game. Had two face mass penalties
to Shawn Watson, and he had this and somehow the
official allows him to stay in the game. Now, the
officials got to think quick on that. On that time,
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he's got to think that, all right, am I gonna
throw the starting quarterback of this team out of the game?
Am I gonna do that? Which? Yes, because he put
his hands on you and threw you to the side.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
But that's probably why do you recognize the big implications
of doing such?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And also you wonder what was said around it was
something happened that you got to give him a little
bit of leeway because something was said, whatever it was.
Those are the only two reasons I can see the
official not throwing to Shawn Watson out of the game.
Watch put his hands on the officials one right, he
was And the games in Pittsburgh. Don't forget the game
was it? Yeah? Game was in Pittsburgh too. So before
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we get into more of this, this is exactly what happened.
You can see the replay on there. There's no excuse
for it. This is when you get thrown out of
a game. This is when officials have to be able
to stand up and say, we're keeping this game in order.
I'm sorry, you're the quarterback, you're out of control, You're
out of the game.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Here's Deshaun Watson following the game as to what happened.
Uh to cause that exchange back and forth between he
and the Steelers sideline.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
No, me and the ref is having conversation. There was
no contact with the ref. No, we were having conversation.
The whole thing on the sideline was and I'm not
going to get into it. You know, we spoke about it. Man,
that coach for the Stillers, So we're on good terms,
you know. I'm not gonna speak on that. But yeah,
we wasn't. There was no contact with the ref. Yeah,
what me and were talking about? You just get me
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on the way. And I was just lett him know
what was going on?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Come on, hey, do you have the musical interpretation of
what he was saying right there?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
He happen to have that any.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Because I mean, there was no contact with the ref.
Nobody could pull up their phone fasted Hey, dude, it's right.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Here, it's all right here. They're all showing here, it's
all right here, it's all right here.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Just ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Hey, in the heat of the moment, maybe he doesn't
know what he did that I pushed the ref off
of me. I probably should have done that. But in
the time from the end of the game to get there,
someone's got to tell him, Heyden, you're gonna get this
question all right.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
That nobody on the field gave him garbage about it
right after, Boy, you got away with one there. I
can't believe there wasn't a single player on his team
or on the Steelers that didn't bring that up in
the moment I was being ushered away.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't I don't get how he can say that
and just think that, Look, well, look, we're in an
age now in the world where where where I could
say it's sunny out and the sun is out middle
in the sky, that's great, and I'm sweating, and someone
would say, no, no, it's cloudy, and there'll be enough people.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
To say, right, it's cloudy, it's cloud yes. In Los Angeles.
I mean, that's just small. I can just lie. I
can just lie, And what are what are you gonna
do to me? You didn't throw me out of the game,
you know, what are you gonna do to me? Well,
that's like we always tell you what your sauce gardener
holding battle if they don't call it likewise air.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I mean I didn't I didn't touch it official. Did
he throw me out?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean that that shouldn't touch should have been the response,
not hang on, I didn't touch it, But didn't they
throw me out?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Twice? Twice? He said there was no contact with you.
What do you mean we were having a conversation what
it was the other about? Man, Like, We're like, what
the hell are you talking about? He should get suspended
just for lying in his postgame press comm just for
you know what, you get suspended for shoving the ref
and for lying and trying to treat us like we're stupid.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
By the way, everybody took the low hanging fruit in
terms of the contact with the official, So all those
jokes are played out.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Just let him go, folks.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I mean, I don't understand how you This is a
guy who who gave the benefit, who gave a gift
to there and now he's just throwing out there like yep,
and I'm ratching it up and I'm gonna insult you,
and I'm gonna insult every single one. I mean, I have.
I really I hate even talking about Deshaun Watson, but
he's a conversation to night because of what happened on
the field. I hate even talking about the guy. I
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really do, especially after something like this. I hate even
talking about the guy because it's not his fault. He
didn't get thrown out. That's on the officials, right, But
when you sit here and say I didn't touch it,
you didn't, dude, I wish he was not even playing.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You're not flying.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
If you believe it's true, he's going focus Stanza.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
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Speaker 1 (14:43):
Kenny Pickets no Good tries to get propped up by
all Steelers fans. He'll get sacked over here now throwing
the dirt over here. Now how he gets credited? I
have not a clue, Fox Sports Radio, why do you
hate him?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Said?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I was Kenny Pickett steaks, But it.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Seems like you have personal animates against you know this
whole dazed and anti Kenny Pickett take pickets no good
for a long time.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
You steal your girlfriends and a lot. No come on,
Kenny Picketts, what he was sandwich?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You got tiny baby heads and the gloves.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Jason, Why would you disrespect Jimmy Buffett like that?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Ken I was.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I was free starting Kenny Pickett over his lyrics.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I kind of had to. We're talking about Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Look, we talked about Deshaun Watson. He stinks he shouldn't
have been playing in the game after he grabbed an
official then lied about it after the game. I don't
know what to say about that. I hate even talking
about the guy. Kenny Pickett's different. Kenny Pickett is is
a player who stealers, and the fans and the media
have wanted to prop up all off season. And that's
why I'll get I get a lot of people my
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timeline getting mad at me. People that people at this
radio at our radio network going you, okay, man when
I say something bad about Kenny Pickett, and I'm like, okay,
maybe I should go back that person now and say, hey,
you want to have this conversation again, Kenny Pickett stinks.
Kenny with people at the networks, Kenny Pickett stinks. Okay,
I mean high level people at the network, high highest people,
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highest level of people. Higher, really higher than Steve de Seger. Okay,
that's pretty high. Watch the game. You watch the game tonight.
Kenny Pickett the same guy he was last year. He's
not dynamic. He doesn't make plays. When a receiver is
wide open, he can hit him. That's Kenny Pickett. Look
at all the bait when Kenny Pickett. When there's a
receiver wide open and Kenny Pickett's and he can throw.
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He can throw the ball there. But ask him to
put something in a window, in a tighter window, and
he'll skip it, he'll overthrow it, he'll hold he'll hold
onto the ball too long because he can't do it
and wait for the play to break down and think
that something else is going to happen. Better, And he's
not good throwing on the run.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Well right now good And that makes him equal with
about half the league through where we're at. But this
in terms of me waiting for something to happen that
never does, and don't do that in your own life.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
It's America. That is life advice. Man, don't wait, make
it happen today.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But this is who Kenny Pick it is. And the
confusion that's been made between to look at last year
when he got better. No, he just stopped throwing interceptions.
So yeah, but we won games. Yeah, you can't win
games like that in the end of it. You don't
go to the playoffs and win playoff games with the quarterback.
That stinks. But the fact that every year the Steelers
win nine ish games, right where nine wins or ten
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wins or nine wins, we're eight wins. We're not. We
don't finish under five hundred. They are continually thinking that, oh,
we just need minor tweaks to get to where we're going,
and you don't. You need bigger changes than that. You
need a bigger change at quarterback. You need a bigger change.
Your defense is good, You need a bigger change with
with with performers on offense. Some of your skill players
are good, some of them aren't. You keep propping out, Oh, Nauja,
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just give Naji Harris another year, another year. Everybody wishes
they played for the Steelers because the Steelers are the
most patient organization.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
In the world. They wait for everybody.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Naja naja, Harrison any is gonna trump? You say, you
don't go tell me that. Jerry Jones is not more patient.
He is and loving, and he is loving, and that's right,
he loves you. But Pittsburgh gets lulled into that. So
it's like, oh, we just think we just need some
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minor tweaks, and the entire offseason it was, well, Kenny
Pickett takes us, so we're gonna win the division next year.
Kenny Pickett's the same guy. He is the same guy,
second year guy. He's not two games, he's not good.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
He wasn't good. Was it good against San Francisco? And
he wasn't good tonight? But we won. Doesn't matter. You
won because you've got two defensive touchdowns. Yeah, you can't say,
but we won. And that's you know, they don't say
that for quarterbacks. Look how many wins the quarterback got?
No quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Are did we start doing that? Quarter quarterback wins and
playoff wins.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And quarterbacks quarterback wins.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, except when you want to compare guys who don't
win a lot. That's when we go to Stashy.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Week one, when Zach Wilson beat the Bills. Zach will No,
no no. I've always said Zach Wilson is not very good.
Well a couple, but no, no no, I said he
stinks and got them going out. He's the best option
for the Jets right now. But it doesn't mean it's
a great It doesn't mean option. He's the best option.
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It's like saying, Okay, what can I eat for lunch?
I can eat something Alex Tischer has prepared, or I
can have ice cubes?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Why you got Dragged Shirt?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Because I would say, well, he picks well from the
local markets.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I would know you're eating both.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I would say, Okay, something ty shirt has made or
ice cubes. While I'm hungry, I'll eat what ty Shirt's made.
It's not a great choice. It's not my favorite choice,
but it's the best choice because I'd rather have whatever
he's got than ice cubes, because maybe there's something in
there I can like and not at the throw though,
scrape it all up my plate and throw it away,
pull the seaweed out of whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I don't know what seaweed.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I can't stand to seaweed. Smell is terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Are you kidding, you know what, you know what, Go
in the ocean and open your mouth when you're in
the ocean and tell me like that taste. No, it's
exactly the same. It's exactly like fish, exactly like fishy.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Do you like fish not seaweed?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Because it fish that's cooked so it doesn't taste too fishy.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But it's both from the ocean smells like the right.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
But you can make fish where it doesn't taste too fishy.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
He's he likes the butter more than the worst part.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, listen, fish is just a vehicle to get the
butter in my mouth.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Okay, what about fish in a bag?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Fishing better not as good as chicken in a bag,
As we found out, I like that. I like that
chicken in a bag from Harmon.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I was trying to give you some Carrying a bucket
chicken in the cokes a little more difficult. I thought
you had handles on the bag. Hey, to have a
bag of chicken.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Is there a way I can get all those great
pieces of chicken in one place. Oh, yes, you can
get it in a bag of chicken, right.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Have you?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You've never had anybody hands you a bag with three
cokes in a bag of chili and a bag of chicken.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Uh, look, just just keep watching Kenny. Nothing's going to change.
He's going to be the same guy. And the more
games of Steelers win, their fans will convince themselves and say,
oh see, well, problems that we're still winning, We're still well.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, at least for tonight it became blame Canada,
blame and nobody heard it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, blame anybody but the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Everybody in the locker room said they never heard it.
It's pretty clear might as well have been the Robin
Williams version that he did on.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
That Awards show. Nobody Watson pushing a rap either.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, I'll tell you everybody watched justin fields. Blame the
offensive cord Air for that last pick that he had
on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Hey man, I can just blame me twenty twenty three.
That's all we're doing. Everybody's finger pointing. And now, like
I joked about it this morning, I put it up
the Spider Man meme right now between Sean Bayton and
Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Spider Man, you can't coach? Yeah, you neither can you.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Who's the third guy in? Is it?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Eber fluses in Canada. Who do we want in that
third spot in Canada? Pointing at each other? That's true.
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