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Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, it's very menacing, Like if I was really menacing,
that's what it would sound like.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah, it's like you're gonna take me out with an
axe or something, or maybe a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Sandwich, cutting the axe and cutting the sandwich in half
with my axe.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That would be it. I could come in with an.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Axe and go, oh my god it Harmon would drop
a sandwich. I would walk up and instead of killing him,
I would just cut the sandwich in half of an
axe and start eating its.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
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Speaker 4 (01:35):
Cut the crust off your sandwich with an axe.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
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Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well yeah, oh boy boy, that's a nice throwback for
a long time listeners.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
No crust, ma.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We'll have more on the Damian Liller trade coming up
in a couple of minutes. But big night in Major
League Baseball, and then look, we watched what we thought
was going to happen happened tonight and and likely Ronald
Acunya clinched the nlm VP tonight, becoming the first forty
seventy guy, not forty forty, forty seventy. Francisco Lindora is
(02:14):
a thirty thirty guy tonight. Yeah whatever, forty seventy for Acuna.
As the Braves.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Clinch the one seed in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You know, Ricky Henderson wanting to take the base with
him with his seventieth stolen base, and.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
All broadcasters were mad, No.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
They didn't like that.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
They did not like stopping the game for Acunya seventy
and stolen base. But look, it's been the story all season.
Acunya's got he's the first fIF he's sixteen and twenty seven,
he's seventeen and thirty one, he's the first, he's the
first twenty thirty five.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Guys like, oh my god, So let let.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
You behave that story this entire year.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Let everybody have this moment where he's he's a nineteen
twenty nine guy.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yes, Yes, that's great. Yes.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Is it just because of the Mets futility or is
this you have a personal angst with them?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
No, it's just every It's just every say it was
he's he's at eighteen and a half and a forty six.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And now, okay, I get it. I get I get it.
I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
But in the process of this tonight, the Braves clinch
the one seed in the playoffs means the Dodgers are
going to be the number two seed and they will
enter the playoffs for the first time in a long
time not being the prohibitive favorite. There's some years where hey,
it could be a toss up between the Dodgers and
somebody else with the Braves were just as good a
team as the Dodgers a couple of years ago when
they won the World Series. But the last decade, Dodgs
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have gone into every postseason being the team that, hey,
you should be in the World Series when it's over.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
If you're not, something is wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And they're going into the playoffs for the first time
not as the favorite. Now they're going into the number
two seed. They had a great season, they're still having
a great season. You got four guy potentially four guys
with one hundred RBIs in the batting order. It's a
great season for them. But they're not the number one
seed because the Braves are just that much better. Eight
All Stars. They have the pitching, they have the hit,
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and they have everything. He said, I'm gonna say this.
I also get to play Met's eighteen times, so that
that's true.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That does help.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
That's not a bad way to go. So they are.
They're opening odds. They were eight to one before the season.
Now plus two seventy five Dodgers plus five hundred at
plus four to twenty five. You want to guess who's
third the Mets. All right now, you're just being a jerk.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Jets Brewers are third, The Orioles Ori are third. Okay,
all right, before the season thirty five to one, currently
seven to one. Remember I told a few months ago,
get those futures on the Orioles World seria.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I went in the Al East. Look where we're at, Orioles.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But I don't think it's a bad thing like silver
lining for the Dodgers. I don't think it's a bad
thing that they go into the playoffs not as the
overwhelming favorite. It's not the worst thing because maybe they'll
play a little bit looser, Maybe they it won't be
as much of a relief when they win. And dealing
with the expectations as being the favorite. As you could tell,
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the last few years, Dodgers have kind of struggled with that.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Look, the the World Series they won was the one.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
No, it is odd to go to we're't allowed to
go to games, they're all neutral site. That's the one
the Dodgers won. The expectations that the Dodgers have had
to deal with the last few years that's not resulted
in them getting out in front and winning the World Series.
And yeah, you had the Astros with the signs, and
then you had the red Sox with the Signs.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
The Dodgers didn't win those.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Series, but going in this year being different, there's a
different kind of energy about this Dodger team and you
can see it over the last few months. And maybe
they're not as talented as Dodger teams in the past
because they clearly a look do you see other teams
in the last few years top to bottom? Hey, Dodger
lineup is great, but this Dodger lineup is pretty good,
but not being the favorite. Yeah, maybe this opens up
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something different to them and being able to play from
behind against the Braves because it should be Dodgers Braves
in the NLCS.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
If it's not, there's something wrong and that might help
them a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Hey, we can play a little bit looser and our
playoff and our playoff experience is gonna go a little
bit different than it had the last few years. So
it might not be the worst because we just watched
a decade the Dodgers come into every playoff as they
should win. They should win, they don't win. What's wrong
with the Dodgers, So maybe this will be a little
bit different for them.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And look at this squad and us residing in Los Angeles.
For those unaware, Welcome into the Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon. Here. I'm Fox Sports radio've been here a minute,
and we welcome you in. We're broadcast from Los Angeles.
So watching a lot of Dodger games here in the
different permutations of lineups and rosters, and to your point, yeah,
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it is maybe a little top heavy would be what
some might argue, Right, you're gonna potentially have four players
finished with one hundred or more RBI. But I think
what's different about this team is also the amount of
strings that have had to be pulled to get to
where we are right and some of the pickups that
had to pay off in a big way. Look at
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Jason Hayward. He was a guy that in baseball circles
and conversations we were having after the last couple of
years of his run, like all right, he's done, there's
nothing left. Instead, he's a guy that's had a lot
of clutch hits for them down the stretch, still play
some pretty good defense. As you go through from a
pitching staff, you've done everything you can to get to
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the finish line here. You've had some adversity, you've had
some adversity doesn't even begin to describe it. Like the
situation going on Julio Urias, who you were expecting to be,
you know, one of your aces coming into the stretch
run and into the postseason. He's a He's a guy
that's not only gone, he's also being erased you right
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around the city of Los Angeles from memory for for
what he's done off the field. And so now you've
found a way to pick up those innings, finding a
lot of young players to you know, your your lament
at times being a Mets fan and watching wave that
pitches three feet out of the zone, as you always say,
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Dodger guys come up and they hit three point fifty
or they go like you saw tonight. You get these
big games out of guys like Emmitt Shehan on the
MoU with his ten strikeouts, right to where it's like
nothing they do is wrong, as you've termed it. I
think I'm encapsulating that pretty well without the banging my
fist on the desk that you normally bring with it.
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But you know, even Lance Lynn, as uneven as he
is and as horrible as he was with the White Sox,
some pretty big starts here for the Dodgers down the stretch.
So it's you know, as much as we may overuse
culture and attitude and whatever euphemisms you want to use,
the squad has seen a lot this year that puts
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them in a little different position than I think we've
had in years past.
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Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well, no, and no matter what, there is a qualifier.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
No matter what whatever move Dave Roberts makes with the bullpen,
it will be wrong. So let's understand that no matter what,
its going to be wrong, it's going to be wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
So, hey, Joe Madden won a World Series where we
just looked at each other and shrugged. Every decision he
made was against the books.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It's just like saying, whatever decision that Jets make a
quarterback will be wrong. Okay, just say, whatever decision he makes,
it's going to be wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
The doone start till next week and he already just
pulled kurshonk.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I mean you're looking at a rotation that's okay, you
got kersh off the top and then Miller, and then
she and and these.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Guys have say that it's a problem. No, I know,
But have you seen Bobby Ice pitch lately? Bobby Ice?
Bobby Bobby Ice has been incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But this is but this is a thing about pitching
in October and why pitching is overrated. You don't want
to get to a point where you are gassing your
bullpen because you're not getting good starts, right. You don't
want to get to that point, and that certainly is
a big fear, But you are just as liable when
you get to the playoffs in a one game situation
to get a great start from a Hall of Fame
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pitcher or a guy you're paying forty eight million dollars
a year or two, and you're just as likely to
a good start from a guy who maybe he's had
a dozen starts in the major leagues and can give
you five innings of one run ball and then you
go to your bullpend. Like normal pitching evens out in
the playoffs, it's really about the lineup and pushing runs forward.
It's gone, it's gone past the hey how are you
gonna beat these four pitchers in this series?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Now?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Because hey, if you don't solve the other team's pitcher,
guess what your big advantage is gone? Your big advanta Well,
hey we got to go no, because the Dodgers have seen,
Hey we got Kershaw on the mount. How many big
game sixes as he lost? How many games in Saint Louis?
How many because somebody came out of knower and pitched
a really good, gutty six innings that you don't remember
his name right now. Because a guy's out of baseball,
you know, pitching is able to even out in the playoffs.
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And as long as as Miller and Sheen and these
guys can get outs and not be guys that are
out of the game in two and the third innings,
they can go five or six quality innings and give
up a couple or three runs. Dodgers can win every
single game, every single game with that lineup because they
have that kind of mojo. The lineup flows together really well,
let's put together phenomenally. They take advantage extra bases, extra
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base hitters, They do everything right. They've played. The Dodger
Way is a thing, and it's worked for ten years.
So I'm not that concerned that the Dodger are going
to go into a game against the Braves and go, okay, well,
Emma Chiean's pitching in this game, but Spencer Stryder is
pitching in this game, So okay, well, Strider could go
six innings and eight strikeouts. She and could go six
innings in eight strikeouts. Right, it evens out. That's I feel.
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I feel pretty even though they're not going in as
the favorites. I feel really good about the Dodgers in
this playoff.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Again, that's why you brought in lance Lynn eight innings.
He ain't no athlete. Maybe he's a ball player. Let's
go ten starts, averaging about six innings to start, right.
That's so, that's what you're banking on from him, Right,
you get him through five or six innings, hope that
it's you know, the solo home run. He gave up
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fifteen home runs and his fifty eight innings of work
for the Dodger or so, those will be there. But
as so long as they're solo shots, minimize the damage.
Get them on, get them over, get them in right.
You know, Ryan Pepio's a guy that's really well known
here in Los Angeles for what he's brought to the
squad been instrumental down the stretch. They're gonna need him
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to be big in the playoffs. Right, that's a name
you're gonna get to know. And it's she and Pitch
Tonight another name for the national you know audience here
across the Fox Sports Radio network and on iHeart the
iHeartRadio app. I mean the guys you might have just
seen in box scores. Maybe a quick nod to them
(12:46):
is you close out and go do your whip around
of highlights and all but young players that have come up.
And because of the organizational stability and bringing these guys
along and not giving up, right, and you know, hey,
we need to go get the shiny toy and trade
away all these prospects. They've got some depth, They've got
some guys that have gotten some valuable experience these last
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two months. And now when the lights are brightest, man, Look, man,
they've been pretty bright here in Los Angeles because everything
they do is criticized. Right, you don't get it out
in the seventh inning, you're hearing about it. Like for
all the reputation people want to have about LA Sports,
that does not apply to the Dodgers. Man, Nope, at all.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Exit out Vta Fresca Exit swollen. Every third person wears
something Dodgers here in La. That's the best part. Every
third person's got a Dodger hat or a T.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Shirt or something.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's it's crazy, uh usually, and I see stuff like
that when I go to Michigan. Look, every third person
in Michigan wears something University of Michigan. And it's a
great thing to see. And that's what it's like here
in LA with the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Every they sell Muskrat dinner shirts back there though, I.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Don't know, but if they don't, I'm going to get.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
WHOA, I get the ty shirt.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Really, it's very I mean, he was so quick on
the trigger there. You mentioned muskrats here it is. I
got it.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
He's a wizard.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
He's a wizard behind the keys.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Come on, now, do you really think I wouldn't be
ready to get us some muskrats? No, I know you were.
You were very ready. I mean, at three and a
half hours, you were. You were ready to get that
in there.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That's all I was here for.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Jets.
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Speaker 1 (14:28):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. So today we went to uh we went
to dinner and early dinner because.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Today was parent teacher night at Zoe's school. So Zoe
had practice after.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
School for softball, and then she and then she had
rehearsal for the for the play. So we had an
hour to jump in for dinner. You know, we run,
where do you want to go? Let go someplay fast?
We go to Panera? Right, So we go to Panera?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Okay, go to McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
No, no, no, you know we almost did. I almost said, hey,
what we went to McDonalds. We were driving, going do
we have enough time for Panera? Because Zoe had to
be back in an hour, and I said, McDonald's is
right here, we can go here. It's like, let's go
to Panera. It's like, man, good, I had McDonald's. So
we go to Panera and we order the food. We're
waiting and I'm walking to the back to go get it,
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and all of a sudden, Everybody Wants to Rule the
World comes on and I'm going, oh.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
My god, I can't I can't escape this song.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So I go and I come and I sit down
and Zoe's looking at me and she starts pretending to
play the guitar along to this song.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
And I'm looking at her like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And she goes, it's your favorite song and she starts
singing along with it, and I'm singing along with it
and pretending to play the guitar, and I go, what
do you do?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Do you listen to this song when I don't know
when you're you're what do I not know? And you're
listening to just maybe? I said? Why?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
She goes, because it's your favorite song. It's like she
was waiting for that moment to be able to air
guitar and sing along to everybody wants to rule the
world with me? Bread, Hey up, DJ Vegetalies, here you are,
here's everybody wants close.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
It's DJ vegetables, vegetable, vegetables, vegetables all right. So she
listens to the song and decided to torment you yeah
good and secon the whole song like, didn't skip out
all the way through till the end, all the way.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Through, proud Zoe, all the way through, man, that's proud.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I did you hear the song twice? I had to
hear tears or fears do it? And then I got
tears Zoe do it.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
That's kind of interesting there it is. What do you think?
What message do you think she was trying to send there?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Just that, Hey, Dad, I like to troll you. I
think that.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Well, No, she's hit that age. That's good. I mean
it had to happen eventually. I mean, you've listened to me,
you know, tell you how my daughters have really kind
of screwed with me in that fashion for a long time.
So it's it's only right that eventually it finds its
way onto your plate.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Man, didn't I'm like, you really have had to listen
to this song a lot, Like you've had to be
like like like over and over, not just like oh
I've heard this once or twice. No, it's got the guitar,
she's got the words down everything.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Boy, it's your anthem.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Smith.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well that's all right, Hey, hey listen if I if
I ever have to kick her out of the house,
ty shirt, she's coming to live with you, all right,
just so we know. All right, you guys, and you
guys can listen to Tears for Fears all you want to.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's Okay, we'll go on a world tour.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I hope she likes vegetables. That's the one thing. Yeah, no,
not a big vegetable fan.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Goode kidding me, good gee growing up with good MacDonald's
showing up repeatedly, mac donald you're gonna tell me that,
did you really say mac donalds MacDonald's.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, mcdowells has the golden arts. We have, we have
the what was what was the one in the sequel?
The toppings are on the bottom, right, wasn't the flur Bees.
It's the flury The toppings are on the bottom. That's
the topics.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Look, the big trade goes down today between the Bucks,
not the Heat, the Blazers and the Suns three team
deal that finally sees Damian Lillard created away. Well, it
was the Raptors for a second, according to Sham's and
it was a four team deal for a second.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But then it turned.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Out telling you between that, I mean, there's a bunch
of this stuff. I mean, he's really I hope he's
paying for that blue check mark at this point.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
So we see the trade.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Go down, and we told you a few minutes ago
just how great it was for the Bucks because the
Bucks got a winning time player. They got a guy
that's going to make those big shots at the end
of games, because that's what the Bucks are lacking. They're
a great regular season team, they need that other guy
to take the pressure off, especially seeing how their season ended.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Now, credit immensely goes to the Milwaukee Bucks from making
this happen because the Bucks are at a point two
weeks ago where you didn't know what the direction of
the franchise was going to be. It was Gianna says
in a podcast, Hey, I want to stay here. I
love it here in Milwaukee, but I want to win.
He's having that mid career my legacy thought. I gotta
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be able to win titles. Every look, every big man
goes through that Shaquille O'Neal moment where hey, I've been
a great dominant player for a long time, but I'm
gonna be judging my long life after basketball. I want
to be someone who, Hey, my legacy is secure, and
Shaq went to the Lakers won the championships. Legacy secure, right,
same thing that we're that Joel Embiid is going through
(19:31):
right now. Do I want to stay I'm in the
middle of my career I need to start winning, yan
It's the same way I've won once, But am I
really gonna keep winning here in Milwaukee and throwing the
gallet down saying hey, I want to I want to win,
but I want to stay here. But I want to win.
You gotta show me you can build a championship team.
That's a really tough spot to put your team in
to say, hey, you got to show me something, because
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at this point you're two weeks out of the regular season.
You're two weeks out, and now you get from your star, Hey,
I don't know if I'm gonna stay. I don't if
I'm gonna say, which is really a load of crap
from Yiannis. Right if you want to say, hey, you
got to make a move for me, you got to
make sure that that you make moves that make us
a championship team. You got to do that before the summer. Man,
you gotta have that conversation. You want to play that
(20:13):
game through the media. You got to play it when
you can do something about it, when hey, there's free
agents out there, there's trades to make, there's big moves
to make. So it really was a load of crap
that Yanna's decided to do that a couple of weeks
ago and say.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, hey nah, what do you want to do?
There's nobody out there?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But what do they do?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
They not only found a way to make a trade,
they found out a way to make a trade for
a superstar player. That's exactly what they need. And more
than likely it's gonna keep Giannis in Milwaukee for at
least the next three years because he's still got a
year plusure to figure out what he wants to do.
But you look at Damian Lillard's peak and the rest
of his prime is probably going to be another three years.
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He'll slow down a little bit at thirty six, that's
probably what's gonna happen for him. But still the next
few years are gonna be really good. He's still a
primetime player, you see him right there. So for the
Bucks to be able to pull this off, man, and
that is an unbelievable movement, all kinds of props of them,
because not many teams can do that, especially when your
star puts you behind the eight ball. You know, a
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couple of weeks before you have to go to camp
and all the move's been made and not only do
you pull out a move, you pull out the best
move of the entire offseason.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, you got two years ahead of his player option season.
And in that year as things stand, I mean that's
when Lillard's contract would be up. He already opted in
for the twenty four to twenty five seasons. So they
got two years to work together and see what kind
of dividends you can pay.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And when we.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Look at Jannislick, the power plays, there's never a good
time for it, right going towards the draft, going into
free agency, Yeah, it would it have been better, but
might have forced him to do something rash. Maybe here
you make a deal that while some folks will lament
maybe a little of the depth, maybe the loss of
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Holiday who just said yesterday, I want to be here
until I die, all right, until I retire. But the
you know, the next day you send him packing. That
you might have a few folks that are that are
wringing their hands over that one a little bit in
terms of what he meant to the overall culture flow, rotation,
et cetera. But you took a swing and you tried
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to placate your biggest star, the guy that brought you
a title, And in this day and age, isn't that
what we expect teams to do? All right, we'll take
the swing, We'll take the shot, and if it doesn't work, well,
we're gonna lose you. I mean, look what the Angels
just did with shoe Ano Tani. Every one of those
moves blew up in their face. And Mike Trout couldn't
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stay on the field, and Anthony Rendon couldn't stay on
the field, but they tried. Now might have a snowball's
chance in hell that he actually returns, but they did
everything to placate him and make him feel loved and wanted.
In this case, you saw the Bucks do the same thing. Right,
they keep them away from Miami. Who thought? But it
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was just gonna be by default eventually. All right, we
back you into a corner training camp starting. You're gonna
deal him to us for what we dictate? Well, no,
behind the scenes, you know, these guys get paid to
do their jobs too, operating against soil. You kept them
away from Boston. Now, does holiday end up on one
of those squads in the end? Sure? And does that
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maybe come back to bite you at some point? Well,
I don't know, it'd be great theater for the NBA
if it does. But in the interim, you took your shot.
You brought in a star who was ready to be
done with his squad. He released the goodbye track lyrics
as well. That was kind of weird, that whole you
know thing that started playing out in terms of lyrics
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to the song of leaving Portland. But for Giannis, you know,
he got his wish. They did something, and so we'll
see if there's any subsequent moves, but at least they
took a big swing