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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings and welcome inside. Happy mean girls day. We wear
a pink on Wednesdays. I forgot the bebo.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I had this shorts laid out and every day and
then I grabbed the sweatpants and these were We're feeling
a little off this morning.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
It was a little little chilly when I woke up.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Too many, too many calteen bars. Yeah, yeah, it's tough things. Yeah,
coach gives us those when I wants to gain weight. Right, well,
I mean that's the last meal that we have here,
right right, right, Yes, it's the calteen bars.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
And then there's no then there's no more a weak game.
You have to get in shape.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
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we are smack dab in the middle of day one
of the MLB postseason. I'm watching the Mets trail the
Diamondbacks right now, four to three, going to the eighth inning.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Ask me, I don't think mil Ask me why why?
Ask me why why?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Because our manager next year, Craig Council, is managing the
Brewers right now.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
So this is like a Mets playoff. You're trying to
speak that into existence.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's like the people in Chicago, which of these guys
you prefer is your next Bears head coach. It's like,
how about you actually commit to firing this guy first
instead of letting him flounder like a fish on a hook. Well, here,
you're trying to speak this into existence. Calm down, I'm
not speaking into existence.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
First of all, you have the president of Baseball Operations,
who hired Craig Council is now running the Mets. David
stearns yescording to John Paul Moros, Craig Council, who somehow
does not have a contract after this year. He even
said before the game today, my contract is up. I
don't have a contract. Anybody wants to talk to me,
I'll talk to them. Are you going to manage today? Yeah,
(02:21):
I'm gonna wear the wear the suit. So for some
reason the Brewers A said we don't want to sign
you or B I'm going to the Mets when I
get a chance. So he may as well be wearing
a Mets uniform managing today. I'm watching him manage, going.
Is he gonna make that decision with the Mets in
the playoffs last year? Would he do this with the
Mets base?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Very nice? Hezil Cooper, nice, Robin you out in center.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We want to go back gamer playing second basel Ya,
that's well.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
We can put in behind the dish.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
A day off, Ben Ogilvie, sure, Larry Heisel, yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
you want to go Harvey's wallp bitch is on the
mountain or he's playing first base in Major League.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, no money, maybe a little bit. Yeah yeah, yeah,
that's a good squad.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
That was one of my favorite stratomatic teams because they
hit them in the seventy nine Tigers. Yeah, you need
one of those teams. Let's go Johnny Walkin fuss getting
after it.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
But yeah, but it's like.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's like I'm watching the Mets playoff game tonight because
our manager for next year is managing.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Now, so you're a little more invested. I feel good now.
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It's good to have a dog in the fight because
I'm sitting there going all right, other than the Dodgers
for obvious reasons, for all of our friends and associates here,
who may be insufferable if when they actually win the
World Series. So I have to kind of temper that
to a bit. But the rest of these squads, I mean,
I like some individual players along the.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Way, but for the most part, it's like, NA beat it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I find rudy for the Brewers to win, because if
they win, maybe they decide, oh we should keep counseling,
give him more money or no.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
But I mean your guys, but I mean, they don't
have the money.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Your guy does know that if he decides that's my guy,
and sterns he decides that's my guy.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
We got the Pope coming up later on tonight to
talk to us.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I mean, there's really not a whole lot you can do.
He decides he's going all in. I mean a little bit.
You know, I'm on board Miami a bit because of
Jake Berger m Burger.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I liked him in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Sure, I kind of hated the fact that, hey, he
was one of the guys that got dumped.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I'm just happy one of these teams is gonna lose. Right,
They're losing an NL's team, and then I'm gonna lose
an Nlesei in the next round too. They're gonna play
the Braves. So it's like, I'm guaranteed to lose. We're
gonna lose an NL's team every round. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It does guarantee one of them goes through. Though I
love well, I figure it's the Braves. I've already I've
already come to grim.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
You reconciled that one. Okay. I figured it's gonna be
terms with that a while. They're really good.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm not gonna get some crazy ass up to that.
Look at the Braves and Phillies battling for the world.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
No, no, no, not.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Gonna get that. Not gonna get that, not gonna get So.
I love the playoffs. Playoffs are great. Playoffs are great.
Exciting day baseball. Oh, which is stupid because it is
the playoffs. I mean, I'll just start it right there.
Let's look, I get it. You got TV windows and
all this nonsense. Screw that, it's the playoff. But you
get into the biggest story of the day with Day
(05:14):
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The first playoff game of the day today is kicked
Off Rangers and the Rays Right Rangers. Rays Rangers win
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the game. But that's besides the point. Attendance in Tampa
for this game a very generous because there's no way
you're gonna tell me this was the actual number. Nineteen
thousand people at the game tea when really, when you
saw a lot of estimates saying four five thousand maybe,
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but just like they always do, we got season ticket holders.
We count hey, nineteen thousand, No, no, way, nineteen thousands.
And this is a this is a thirty eight thousand
seed ballpark.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
They say it can get to like forty three.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I mean, come on, man, this is in a few years.
Because you're now you're gonna see relocation in the next
couple of year. We talked a lot about the A's
this year. They're moving to Vegas in five years. When
we're talking about the Montreal Rays or whatever they become,
or the North Carolina Rays or whatever they become, people
are gonna say, boy, when was that moment that we
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went to, Hey, the Rays are definitively moving and nothing's
gonna stop it. You're gonna point to today because this
was the most embarrassing thing that Major League Baseball could
possibly have. Here's your first playoff game, and yes it's
the rais of the range, but still it's the pageantry
of the first playoff game. It's the postseason, it's what
you've been waiting for. And you get a ball in
the first images of the baseball playoffs start. Here's a
(06:50):
ballpark fifteen minutes before first pitch, and there's maybe four
thousand to be fair, if you were only watching it
on television and not through the glory of social media,
you were none the wiser. Well, because they're not gonna
show it there. But I could, I could cover up
the warts.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Fact, I could go find something on and whether it's
Selena Gomez's makeup bile, whether I can go and you know,
maybe it's Mabeline. I don't know, well, but I can
find stuff to cover up my blemishes. If we're in
the old juditional broadcast, you don't show the foul ball.
You know, sometimes they show the foul balls and sometimes
they don't, like why.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Don't we start that trailer?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And then you stop at because the foul ball is
gonna land where there are no fans for dozens of miles.
So no, no, do we follow that that don't follow
the foul ball? Stay stand the picture, stand the picture. Okay,
we're gonna have this game in Andy's room.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I mean we are not well attended by all the
alien Andy's room.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
That's the game that had been in Andy's room. I like,
I really enjoyed Andy's room.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
By the way, it's so unbelievably embarrassing for baseball that
you have a team making the plays. And I know
it's a day game too, right, Right, it's a day's
and and they've had a good team for a while, right.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
And then they've been you. You should be able to.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You should be able to have built and cultivated a
fan base by now, because you have built in enough
of a culture of winning the last few years where
it's not Hey, you guys are doormats, right, So you've
been able to build and still this is what you
get the first day, nineteen thousand people.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Well, people have to work.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I know people have to work, but no other stadium
has trouble filling for a day game. Hey, Twins had
to sell out, right, everybody else everybody Hill sells out.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Oakland would have had more people. Are you killed? My god?
Oklan would add more people there?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Come on, now, well they would have disguised it as hey,
let's let's do this and tried to get the team
not to Beekland. If you show up, you can keep
your seat, like literally, you can take the seat with
you when you leave. I mean, that's how embarrassing. This
is for baseball, and there's certain moments where you know,
we go down a road that you can't turn.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Away stadium deal, right, So like what does that mean
in the grand scheme?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I mean, come on, this is one. This is one
of those Okay, we can't, we can't, we can't have
this is where baseball gets involved and says, all right,
this is this is not going on. This is not
going on now, and we can't do this. We can't
have this team have this optic that nobody cares. Right,
that's the worst thing, right, because what baseball, with all
the different changes they make, what are the two things
(09:12):
I always look at in baseball that viewership is up
and stands are full? And this is of the two
things they like to promote. Here's your first playoff game
and nobody is there, and nobody is there. You couldn't
get nineteen thousand other people for tickets that were that
were pretty cheap. Get in wasn't wasn't outlandish because you
(09:33):
don't know if it went.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
On the secondary market were you were in heaven. It's
not to be fair. It was about fourteen hundred greater
than their season average.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, no, that's good. That's good. Good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Fourteen hundred, fourteen hundred more people went to this game.
Yeah than in the regular season. It's a playoff game.
We add another fourteen hundred people.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, I mean Workland averaged ten ten thousand, fourteen hundred fourteen. Yeah,
in Tampa Bay average just under eighteen thousand. That's a
game this year.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
This is where baseball gets involved and says, okay, let's
push this deal. And and they and and we we
have to put them someplace else.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
But we also get into the discussion overall of well,
what does it mean on the grand scheme of things,
asses and seats, the optics they're in right because we
can see g I and AI some people in there.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
If we really want to do it, Yeah, why didn't
they do that? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But legitimately right, it's always been about what do we
have enough time to AI some people?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
How many? You need?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
A couple hundred of fo we do it. We had
cardboard cutouts. I don't have a pandemic. I don't have
to go they pop up in rows. What if they
all looked like Boba Fett? What if they if they
were all try if they were all Django Fete. They's
showing up to this game. You want to buy a
seat a hard work cut out of your favorite person
in a Star Wars universe.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
No, they're just no, they're just all gender.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
All the clubes are all dressed like Jango fet and
not sure some of them. What you gotta have a
couple with the kids, like every fourth one's got to
be but yeah, yeah, yeah, that way it looks like families. Right,
So you need about fifth and baby Yoda's so every fifth.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
One, Mike is the kid handing out hats. The kids
gotta be handed out hand fourteen thousand jango FETs. No,
but four thousand combination of four to five thousand between
Boba Fet baby a kid, Boba Fet and baby.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
But let's go back to basics, though, is we're always
talked about uh in all these sports. It's about the
TV deals, It's about the TV product and is my
product lesson because some guy didn't get off his job
or out of his nursing home or whatever to go,
So I gotta call what it is. It's Tampa, Saint Pete.
My parents lived down there. They were not happy by.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
The they go to the game. Now, why did they go.
They could have gone to the game for free.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It would have been a couple of bucks they could
You could have sent them the money for that. I
had no problem doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Want to make the effort once you go to the game,
which is like everybody else.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
In Tampa.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Is if it's on TV, Yeah, I'm not going, Jason,
if i'm if I'm them.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, but you know who can't go to Tampa bike
after that comment?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
There he is seat seven. G get him. Yeah, that's fine.
And and and I'll wear it.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I'll see you and guys all at Lenny's when I
get out there for the holidays.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
It's a great breakfast place.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
The thing is, you have to to go to a
sporting event. Sometimes I get the I get where the
philosophy of hey, the TV experience is so well and
and the and the in person experience they have to
continue to amp it.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Up, but of time. And I get I get that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I get that you need to amp up what it's
like in a gain and to make people, you gotta
make people come out to a game.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I understand that. But this was easy. This was well,
how tough is it to get tickets?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Pretty easy? Well, I like to kind of spread out. No,
you had your chance. Yeah, whatever, this is an easy
game to go, the Angels game.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I'm gonna drive right up.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I'm gonna drive right up, and there's gonna be a
valet saying I'll park your car. I'll may welcome you
to the stadium. When do you want to leave? Probably
in the seventh inning? All right, just call down ahead
and I'll have your car ready for you.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
So ok.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
No, But to the larger point, just though of the
television model and the revenues and the reduction in ballparks,
like a lot of that, it all comes together. And look,
I agree with you. Should they have been packed? Absolutely?
Should there have been trips planned for folks to go
to these games? Hell yeah, it's a playoff game. However,
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the dollars and cents of TV revenue has already made
it to where you don't have to try during the
regular season. Right, this is the natural extension of it.
It's like, wait, we're still gonna get to watch them, right, Yeah,
it's all gonna be on national TV. Yeah, it's not
gonna be on one of these crazy pay for platforms. Yeah,
(13:42):
I'm not going. I'm not investing my day. Yeah, that's
a terrible stadium. Let's see, let's accept for the touch pat,
Let's see how you can touch it with two fingers,
only two fingers though.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, just in one way, not the other way. Let's
see if this announcement for the stadium and everything goes
forward like it was. Oh no, no, just like Oakland, you
have a bunch of hiccups, just like the Museum of
stadium proposals we had here in Los Angeles before Kronkey
finally put some shovels in the dirt or Balmer decided to.
(14:16):
I mean, how many iterations of those did you go
through for twenty five thirty years? Likewise, the bullet train
from here to Las Vegas. A lot of models every
five years off of some sci fi. Hey, you know what,
I went and saw the Creator and we could make
the cars all look like Lobot.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Today will be that day? When when did they really
what did we know they were going to be the Montreal?
Today was that day? Today with the girls? Day was that?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You know what? It might have been during the fanatics
had a big writ party Devin Tops the other day
and Tom Brady showed up in a exposed Jersey.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Remember, because he was drafted by all those years ago. Right.
Maybe he doesn't want to be part of the Raiders
ownership North Carolina Caroline Rays, Carolina Rays get Ready, or
maybe he brings the expos back.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
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Speaker 4 (15:13):
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with the hut.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh oh, Solo, I don't think you can say that
on it?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Can you say that? Dump? That was talking? I got
a plunger in front of me. You, I mean I
was talking in hotties. Yeah, but we don't know what
it means.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I just said what it means. It means, Oh, I
I cannot be rid of my favorite decoration. Captain Solo
will stay on the wall.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
That's exactly what I say.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Tell you, it means that well in Zach Wilson's garbage,
I mean, I don't know. Do I drive to look
on the line for any hidden meanings? The dictionary sit
an urban or dictionary slang dictionary.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Oh that's what means. I didn't know that. Oh I
think I had a pretty good idea did though. Oh oh,
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
The night in Major League Baseball is over, and it
wasn't about as good as it could because an NL's
team lost the Marlins, and I got to watch the
Mets new manager, which will wind up being Craig Counsel
because the Brewers aren't gonna off from a contract after
this year, and he's gonna go with David Sterns to
the Mets. And I got to watch Craig Council manage Sternsy.
I got to watch Craig Council manage thinking what's he gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Do next to?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
And you were a good job, yeah, because they lost.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Because now if they win, maybe the Brewers pony up
some money to bring him back. But the Brewers, if
they lose, it's a lot easier for them to say
we got to move on, and the Mets got Craig Counsel.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I'm going on. So now I feel like I'm watching
the Mets in the playoffs a little bit.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Time to move on, eh, Time to get going. Yeah,
it couldn't very much be that.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I'm digging that.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Look at you, you're just trying. You're trying to make
it positive. As things spiral around your jets, it's good yeah, yeah,
well yeah, spiral good jet by you.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Now that's the thing here.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We got John Paul Morosi coming up in a few
minutes to break down everything going on in Major League Baseball.
But every day the story gets bigger and bigger about
Aaron Rodgers comeback. Right, and we got the big report
today that he is attacking his rehab and he is
eyeing a return this season. He knows who he plays
(17:16):
for though, right, yeah he does, he does he no, no, no,
I mean who he plays well, yeah, well, well that's
another part of the conversation. He goes on the Pat
mac if he showed today and says that there's nothing
normal about how I'm attacking this rehab. The common practice
is about six weeks in a boot, and I was
in a shoe in thirteen days. Now he is way
ahead because he had that big you know, the goat
(17:38):
doctor Neil Latrosha's surgery, where hey, I can do things
to your achilles that people haven't done before.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
It got cam Akers back playing very very quickly. So
there's no doubt in my mind he will come back
faster than the average person. And I would before I
before I give you the big reality sandwich, everybody's got
to take a bite of, even me.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Let me just say this is.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
That this is a great story for everybody because if
Aaron Rodgers does come back, right, let's just say he does,
this is superhuman like this will this will forever change
injuries and how long players will be out and how
long we can expect them to be out until they return.
They will return faster. Achilles injuries will no longer mean
(18:21):
twelve months and maybe they get back and then they
return to who they are. There's advancements in medication all
the time, in medicine all the time. Right, I always say, hey,
medicine will save you. Just you know, live okay, Medicine
will save you. And there's no doubt that you're getting faster,
quicker timetables.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Sure for players coming back.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Now, certain certain injuries have always been Hey, torn acl
it's gonna be a year, torn achilles, it's gonna be
a year, or until you come back, you're out for
the rest of this year.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
You're coming back. It's just gonna be that case. And certainly, if.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Aaron Rodgers tore his Achilles at the end of October.
Then we know, you know now he's coming back next year.
But here's Rogers who is ahead. Like everything you've seen,
he is way ahead in his rear wanting to come
back at the end of this year. And that story
is that part of it is fascinating because, like I said,
this can change everything when we talk about injuries and
guys returning in the NFL and other sports. As doesn't
(19:15):
he may trying to go into the full positive attitude
towards the world, except where he takes his little swipes
and things and people he doesn't like.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Sure, Travis Kelcey could to.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Show that he's, you know, not one hundred percent a
different guy. He still can turn to the dark side
with the cut to the quick. Yeah he's still a jerk. Well, yeah,
it's still there.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
He's he's he's feeling a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Now, Hey, I want to talk about being anti vaxer
a little bit now, I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Feeling making fun of Kelly and his endorsement deal, chopping
at the bit right now and the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Like the one thing he did today he talked about
Travis Kelcey before we get into the big reality sandwich.
He talked about Kelsey and he said he didn't really
have a big impact on the game. And he called
the mister f because Kelsey's got the commercials going on
for for Pfizer and all this about about getting if
you want to get another immunization shot for COVID for
which is which is going around now? And you know
(20:11):
when when that story came out, you sent that to
me today and I sent you back and text saying
Rogers knows who's he plays for, right, he knows it,
and then went back in is Yeah, Johnson and Johnson,
of Johnson and Johnson Vaccine of Johnson and Johnson is
now trying to get involved with the government about getting
more medicine to people for less money. It's been a
whole big thing the last couple of days. I know,
(20:32):
the everything with McCarthy and and that's taking up all
the oxygen in the room. But there's been some drug
companies that are trying to strike deals where let's make
some medicine less expensive. Let's try to do it. Okay,
that's great, so he said, he going, yeah, mister dude,
you know signs your checks right, you know, it's pretty Johnson,
you know it's Johnson and Johnson.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And they did eventually circle back to that in the
course of the interview, but it was the moment that
that took over the internet.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, a little bit for the moment and everybody had
their guffaw and.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Oh, I can't believe it's like, no, that's not quite
the burn no that you think it is. But if
it made you feel better about yourself in the moment
while talking about your reading, I gotta say I haven't
said anything. I've been on my best behavior since I
became a Jet. I haven't said anything controversial. I haven't
talked about the election. I haven't talked about getting in
(21:21):
which he had done a little something, give me a
little something that showed up.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I was a swifty so.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
He had the mister so we had the mister Pfizer thing.
But let me just say this, let me just here's
the reality is that he's not coming. This is a
great story, right, this is a great story. If he
can come back, like I said, it would change everything.
Now I look at it from my perspective, Dude, the
Jets are one and three. The season could be over
by Halloween. Okay, let mean just just let's Let's just
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be realistic here. You can't sit here and keep telling me, oh, hey,
the Jets are gonna be fine. Look how well Zach
Wilson played one in three, one and three. All I
heard all year was the Mets are too good to
not hit. We're gonna start They'll start playing well eventually. No,
the games go on, whether you say they're getting better
or not, and the losses pile up, whether they're getting
better incrementally or not. The Jets are one and seven
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and Zach Wilson is playing well, it doesn't matter. The
season's over. Let you know, for Aaron Rodgers, it's great.
It's great that he wants to come back, and it's
great the Jets have a thing to focus on to say, hey,
Rogers coming back. He guess hope for the season. But
let's fight the reality.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
One and three. You're one and three. You lost two games.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You probably should have won, right, You lost the Cowboys,
you got blown out, okay. Should have beat the Patriots
because they stink and you somehow found a way to lose.
Should have beat the Chiefs because you didn't show up
for the first quarter of the game and then you
fought your way back and made too many mistakes and
you wound up losing. Should that But now you're one
and three and you're going into Denver, and if you're
one and four, that's it. Put a fork in the season.
That's where you're at. I forget about this. Rogers could
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come back. I don't give a crap about Christmas or
if he's coming back in December?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Did you just say what I think you said?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Is he good?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Dare you? Is you hear that back? If they're two
and eleven? Is he gonna come back? If they're two
and twelve, we're not to show that's anti Christmas? How
dare you?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Matt? I mean I care about Christmas?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I cancel because because you know I do, because my
wife already has like thee my Christmas.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So he goes, don't buy anything Christmas coming. I go, it's.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
October third, What do you mean Christmas is coming? But
some of them at Christmas lists? I want to buy
stuff for the next one and a half. Anyway, I
don't care about that. I don't care about all greats Christmas.
The season could be over, man like, it's could be
done in a couple of weeks. But he's given you hope.
Just like when he first signed with the team.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Why is it wrong? Well, it was good with because
now you got Denver, we could and in three weeks
you got the Giants. Man, that's we got to focus
on is winning some games here. Now we're not three
and one, but he's not playing.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Hey, here we are.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
It's three and one, and his ass doesn't have to know.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But the dance, all the push of hey, Rogers can
come back, and he's such a big dude.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
One and three. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I care, But he's not talking about the team. He's
talking about himself. He's back to being Aaron Rodgers about me.
If we're in my recovery, I don't care about the team.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Here's twelve me. But if they're two and twelve, gets
who's not coming back him? They're not gonna put him back? Dude,
why would we put you in We're two and twelve,
why would we put you in the game.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
You just made it all about Aaron Rodgers, right, But
he finally got back to himself.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But that's irrelevant because the Jets.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It could be over, it's over, could be it's over,
Johnny over.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
It could be over.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Before Kirk Cousins hits the market, before the Vikings say, fine,
we'll trade him.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
What do you guys want? Before Justin Fields hits the market? Fine,
before Daniel Jones hits the market, Fine.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
What do you want?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It could be over, man, that's what I'm thinking about.
That's what you gotta be focused on. Aaron Rodgers, Hey,
that's great, and that's one of those stories that boy,
hey he comes back the powers and everything else, Vincent
Peel and working hard. That that's that's a great deal.
But this is the reality, man, one and three two
teams a beaten that you didn't Yes, the schedule lightens
up a little bit, but you don't.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Start winning games again by Halloween.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I'll be saying, Okay, well, Syracuse tips off soon and
here come the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's what it is. Oh, but Rogers could come back.
I'm not gonna see Rogers in the game that matters
until next September. If you're two and twelve, he's not
going to come back to the final three games. Because
I don't want to sit here and expect to see
a headline at ESPN dot com Jets win last three
with Rogers. Think about what might have been. The Jets
finish five and twelve, but win their last three games
because Aaron.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Rodgers has come back. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
At that point, then stop going to ESPN dot com.
Exactly matter, It doesn't matter. Save yourself to click. It
doesn't matter. He's selling for himself.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's all about him. He's all about him. He's back
to be at Aaron Rodgers, we miss you.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Sure doesn't matter. It doesn't matter Twitter at How about
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Speaker 4 (25:51):
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Speaker 1 (25:54):
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Speaker 3 (25:59):
That's what matters. Season's gonna be over in a couple
of weeks. But oh yeah, Rogers couldn't come back. Now
he's not Rogers.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Jason, you really got to take the cut out. It's over, buddy, dude,
it's October. I was waiting for that to end, like scanners.
You gotta take the cut out. Just wait all week.
Get Jimmy Garoppolo in a trade.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
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Speaker 1 (26:27):
Major League Baseball games in the books? What did we
learn after day one? Joining us now on the hotline?
Nobody better, Fox Sports Radio, MLB Network, Inside are extraordinary.
The Pope John Paul Morosi gonna ask me about Sternsy,
classmate at Harvard. But first I got I gotta ask
(26:48):
you this, JP, I mean, give me your gut reaction.
Mets manager Craig Counsel. Did you like how he managed
the opening game for the Brewers?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Good evening?
Speaker 6 (26:58):
As far as I know, he still has at least
one more game to manage for the Brewers. Jason and Mike.
I know this has been a big topic.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
I have not yet.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
I have not yet reached out to Sternsey to ask
when any announcements as to the next manager of the
Mets might be made. I know that many people have
drawn this link between Counsel andcerns.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
And it's accurate. It would make a ton of sense.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
However, again, there's a small matter of Game two of
the series, which is tomorrow between the Diamondbacks and the Brewers.
So let's let's let Craig get through Game two and
hope and hopefully from his standpoint, there's a Game three
and even more. But yes, I do think whenever the
Brewers play the final game, you may you may call
me immediately, even if it's twenty four hours from now,
(27:44):
and we'll be talking about how soon he might be
named the Mets manager.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well, can you hook us into sternsy directly?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, I look, I gotta think it's going to be
right afterwards, because you look at Craig Counsel and it
really does it make sense that we have a lot
of fun with this because obviously David Stearns now running
the Mets wants Craig Council is wall. We've heard here's
a guy that's done nothing but get a middle market
team into the playoffs year after year, and he's working
without a contract for next year. So this tells me
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either he wants to be gone or the Brewers really
they want to move on, which I can't believe they
want to move on. You want to have the good
time stop rolling JP. I mean, that's one of the
biggest crazy mysteries of right now. On Here's a manager
who's in the playoffs and yeah, he's probably going to
be leaving at some point, and he's linked with another team,
and yeah, his current team really has no interest in
signing him, trying to sign to a.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Long term deal.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Well, I think the Brewers do have interest in signing him,
and they've tried, but I think it's Craig's preference to
play this out. And I think we're seeing why, because
he's one of the best managers in the game for
all the reasons that you're mentioning. He may be realizing.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
And I'll be measured in saying this.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I mean, he's been able to get to the playoffs
a number of times in a row. But it seems
as though, based on with the exception of twenty eighteen
when they made it to the NLCS against the Dodgers,
there has been a bit of a cap on how
far they can advance with this team at this time,
and he may have concluded that that if he is
going to win it all as a manager, which he's
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certainly done twice as a player, that he may have
to go somewhere else. That's one way to read this,
and obviously it's going to be a tough decision if
in fact he decides to leave.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
This is his hometown. He grew up in Whitefish Bay.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
There's a little league field named after him in Whitefish Bay.
I mean, this is his hometown of a hometown story
as against. He may decide he's got sons playing college baseball.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Now, he might decide that he wants.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
To spend some time to watch them. But and again,
the New York mess job does not come around very often,
especially not with somebody who's who you know well. It
is the president of baseball operations there. So I think
we can draw the connection. And it's sometimes the correct
answer is the obvious one. It seems to be that
that's the case here. But I do think the Brewers
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have wanted to sign him long term. He grew up
around the organization, His dad worked for the organization. He
was running around the outfield County Stadium basically before he
was in middle school.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I mean, this is his life. But I think sometimes
you may reach a.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Point where if there's one more challenge to pursue.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
In life, you take it, you do it. You know,
that may be where he's at.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
He may also be at the point where he says,
I want to get as much money as I can
to stay. That's also an option. It's amazing, Jason, what
free agency does for leverage, and that's what Craig council
is is living with right now.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
You just heard you mortally wounded Smith as he's sitting
here psychologically. It just took him out. How about on
the winning side of things. Not a bad debut for
the Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Carol, unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
That home run, by the way I think it landed.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
A little while ago.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
It was the right center field, I mean, my goodness, gracious,
and again that was against Corbyn Burns.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
One of the best pitchers in the game.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
And then of course the very next pitch could tell
Marte follows up Corbyn. Carroll, you're right. He's the NL
Rookie of the Year twenty five and fifty for the year,
which the first first rookie ever in the NL to
pull that off. So he's just he's a special talent.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I just love.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
And this is one of the things that is so
interesting about following players in the postseason is he's the
kind of guy that has success in the big moment
and right now one game end certainly looks that way.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
And it's fun too because.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
The Dive of Backs also have a veteran Evan Longoria,
who was sort of the same guy now going back
fifteen years ago with the Rays where he shows up
and looks so natural. Into the two thousand and eight playoffs,
Carol might be the same kind of a guy. And
the thing I love about Carol is he has two
things that are really important attributes in the playoffs. Number One,
he's got a short swing who's not going to be
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susceptible to the big time velocity. He's able to stay short,
put the ball in play, and he runs. He runs
the bases. And think about the number of key plays
that we saw to just today come down to base running.
I think Boba Schet going and trying to score there
was probably the right call for Korea made a great play.
Yelich had a base running blunder got picked off second
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base a Domis.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
He could have argued.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Maybe he should have been able to get back to
second on the line shot that Longoria caught. It's base
running is so crucial. The Rangers scored a run on
a wild pitch, but things like that happen, and Corbyn,
Carroll and the d Backs overall have the kind of
athleticism that I think will allow them to take advantage
of of situations that they encounter in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
JP the biggest story of the day, actually not involving
a game, but you look at what happened on social
media when this just caught fire. Fifteen minutes before first
pitch at Tampa, there were maybe four thousand fans in
the stands. They announced a total of nineteen thousand, and
that's being incredibly generous for the first playoff game of
the year. You know, Tampa winds up losing to the Rangers.
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I know they have an agreement for a new ballpark,
but I look at a daylight today and I go, really,
baseball can continue to have baseball in Tampa because this
is one of the worst optics you could possibly Yeah,
here's the first game of the playoffs and a team
that's had trouble drawing fans, here's a playoff game, and
you can't even fill half your state. And it's a
small stadium, and you can't fill half your small stadium.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
And this has gone on for a long time in
Tampa Bay.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Right now, it's a fair point. They obviously just announced
several weeks ago the plans for the new ballpark, and
they are more committed to it than I've ever heard
them before. It's a plan, it's been announced, the mayor
of Saint Pete was there. MLB has obviously supported this,
so it does appear to me that the new ballpark
is real and it's going to happen. All that being said,
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to your point, it's not a great look. And now,
in fairness, it's a three o'clock game, and I think
it's important to realize that there are plenty of people
who are working at three o'clock and can't get out
in time. I think if it's after school gets out
of it's after work gets out, it's probably different. I've
been at the trop I remember back game four of
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the Division Series when they face the Astros back in
twenty nineteen. It was and that place was one of
the loudest ballparks I've ever been in my life, and
it was raucous and rocking. So I do think the
time of the game has something to do with it.
But you're right, especially coming after the announcement of baseball
staying in Saint Pete, you would have liked to have
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seen a bit more. I again, I'm sensitive. It's cool,
it's work and that stuff is really important in life.
But you're right, as a baseball fan, you would have
loved to have seen a full.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Crowd JP though.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Does it speak to the idea that the television side
of it's more important from the dollars and cents.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Of it all, Well, I think it is.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
And that's and obviously in this case when you think
about MLB, and obviously this first round is on ESPN
and ABC, including you know, the early game on broadcast television,
which didn't always happen in terms of baseball being on
a broadcast network in the first round of the playoffs.
So for a long time it's been on cable. And
obviously I probably sound like it's probably twenty one year
(35:02):
old listener to saying the same what does it matter?
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Man?
Speaker 6 (35:04):
It's all it's all exactly, but it does. But there's
still for old folks like us, there is a distinction
off in between is it on broadcast television versus cable?
And I think for MLB, getting one of those four
games on ABC is important to them. So I understand
that TV is obviously very important to all of us
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in terms of the media ecosystem. And I think you're right,
Mike that they would say if I can get it on,
if I can find a way to get a game
on a great national TV slot early in the day,
and if I'm going to sacrifice ten thousand seats to
do it, basically, I think that's exactly what MLB has done.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
And then it's not the first time that that's happened.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
John Paul Morose, the MLB Network Insider with us here
the Jason Smith schew with Mike Carmen.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
All right, so complete the phrase here. For me, the
biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
You learned Day one of the playoffs today was that
the d Backs can play.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
I mean, I really think that, and that the Brewers obviously,
for me, they were one of my favorite sleeper picks
up until about forty eight hours ago when you heard
about Brandon Woodruff being out with his shoulder, and then
obviously Burne struggles today. Devin Williams gave up a run,
two runs actually, and so now you're starting to worry
a little bit. So I think that's probably the biggest
(36:25):
surprise that I saw.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
I mean, Texas is a really good ball club.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I was a little surprised that Tampa made four errors.
That was pretty surprising for me. So I would say
the plus side surprise of just how completed a team
the d Backs appeared to be with a young rookie,
and Brandon.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Fought on the mount.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
I mean, that's that was a pretty pretty strong demonstration
for him. So I think the d Backs on the
plus side a little surprised at how flat the Rays.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Were the Twins.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
I didn't really have Royce Lewis hitting two homers after
people not being really sure he was gonna even be
on the roster. He goes out and hits two homers
in his first two plate appearance. That's pretty cool in
the most season, So I didn't have that happening. But
I've really I liked the Twins a lot. With Lopez
and Gray starting Games one and two, I think that
tells you just how good of a ball club they are.
And all of a sudden, now the Jays face a
(37:13):
ton of pressure. This is their window to win not
just a round or two, but the World Series. And
right now they are one loss away.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
From Winter forty six and eighteen. With the two seventeen
batting average. What's it going to take to put Pete
Alonso in Wrigley Field?
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Boo, there we go. How about that, Pete Alonzo.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
I'll say this, the Cubs need a bat and you know.
The other team I'll mention here, guys, is that we've
heard a lot of rumblays the last couple of days
out of Seattle.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
It seems like they there's some of.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
The players, some of the folks out there say we
need more, some more star power.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
So let's say this.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
I think that if, if and when Pete Alonzo was
put out there and available, I would say, teams this
step to the front of line in the Chicago Cubs
and the Seattle Mariners.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
But did they not recognize how much love and support.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I don't think why any baseball player got more run
than Julio Rodriguez this.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Year, Well he did. I mean he was everywhere.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
He was on a lot of endorsements, a lot of commercials.
You know, he struggled late in the season, and I
think that and struggled in his you know, I'm putting
it in the air quotes because in August he had
one of the best months ever.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Down the stretch, he.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Was a little more, a little more average, I would say,
And I think that that that to me speaks to
the process that it takes. Whether it's Barry Bonds or
a Roder, anybody that goes through their their careers, those
that maybe had like prominent struggles early on then eventually
had success. And I think that that that happens.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Sometimes, I think for players.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
So I expect Julio to have much better success as
time goes on. In the playoffs, I think they were
asking a lot of him to carry the team at
this stage, and he needs a little bit out and
I think that that's that's going to be in the
person of a maybe a Pete Alonzo, maybe Todie Bellinger,
maybe Otani. They'll try, But I do think that that's
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the kind of idea for the Mariners, is to maybe
give him a little bit of support so he doesn't
feel quite like can't do it all by himself, because
there were certainly some swings where he was trying to
go out of the zone and do whatever he could.
And we see what happens this time of year against
good pitching. It just that never ever works.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Well, this is where you call Sternsy and say, hey,
you know, Jason Smith wants me to put him in
touch with you so you can talk about whatever Pete
Alonzo trade you might have cooking here.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Because yeah, I still have I still have a.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Setback from the from the Edwin Diaz, Jared Keller, mcdeal
and all that money that we ate.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
So you got to talk to stern for me?
Speaker 5 (39:37):
All right, very good. Here, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
What one of these nights when when you're not able
to you know, if it's another night of the week
or on some other time where I'm traveling on a Tuesday,
just you know, call up the mess and say, uh,
we want to have Sternsey on Jason Bush Show. And
then we'll see if we can maybe make that happen
over over the night time.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Is that like a code word?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
No, we say the Pope says we need to have
Sternsy and and that's all I got to come on
the show.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
I love it. I think it's that is a great plan.
I love that idea.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
I will I'll do my best to sort of underscore
and put a favorable review on your Requestlly, hopefully the
Mets will will take take kindly to your request or
to aim on the show.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
All right, now, last you talked about pressure living up
to pressure. You're under pressure right now because you are
hot again with your Lion's prognostications. You came on last
week Lions get the w. What's your pick this week?
Lions home for the Panthers. What's the score? How do
they win?
Speaker 4 (40:32):
How many touchdowns for Jared Goff? You've been hot? JP?
Your hometown Lions.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Detroit Lyons twenty eight, Carolina Panthers thirteen?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Whoa, whoa? Twenty eight thirteen?
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Yeh, twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Usually pick twenty four for the Lions, twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
I'm going a little higher now. I mean I'm trying to. Yeah,
I've got that.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
I've got twenty eight thirteen is what I'm feeling. I mean,
I've been that's pretty I mean I had a fairly
disastrous pick when they faced the Seahawks and loss. I'm
feeling pretty good about this one. I think it's gonna
be a win. And furthermore, with the Lions winning this one,
it's gonna it's gonna affirm for everybody again this is
not the same old Lions. It is a different Lions team.
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You guys have to I mean, we're gonna.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Keep this going. You guys are gonna be calling me
until February asking got the lines are doing.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
I mean they may they may, they may see.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
You know, we began this conversation.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
The whole Lions thing with me telling you and being
correct they.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Were gonna beat Mahomes. What if they see Mahomes again?
Speaker 4 (41:40):
I eagerly await your pick for that game.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
What if they see money eight again?
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Thirteen?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
That's that's exactly right.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
The last time, the last time the Lions played in
the NFL or that yes, back in the NFL Championship
game nineteen fifty seventh.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
Hey, we're due, We're due.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
He is the He is the president of the Eric
Hippel fan Club and best friend of Sternssey.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
It is the Pope.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
John Paul Morosi, MLB Network insider JP is always buddy appreciation.
And we will talk tomorrow night after the second round
of games, and maybe we are talking to Craig Council,
Mets manager.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
You never know.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
All right, very good, So you give me shouts tomorrow
night and then all sounds good and I'll look forward
to the conversation.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Sounds good. Have a great night.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
JP will talk to you.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Like we know, what does you have to say? Call
him up and ask for Sternsey how much you want
to bet when the Mets make their managerial decision. JP
is going to have the Hey, breaking news. I've got
to fire Craig Counsel, and you know where it came from,
you know where, you know where it came from.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
And then they'll put up a picture that they got
off his phone with you know, Sternsey looking at him,
pointing at him like that guy Sternsy and the Pope.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
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