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October 4, 2023 36 mins

Does Diamondbacks-Brewers count as a Mets playoff game since Craig Counsell is managing? MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi for all the big headlines and Wild Card predictions. And the guys debate what’s next for Colorado after two straight losses.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
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(00:44):
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(01:06):
for you go Glen Coco, you go, you are still
trying to make fetch happen? Or for Glen Coco. The
night in Baseball is done? And that chop with the hut, Oh, Solo,
I don't think you can say that on it? Can
you say that?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Dump?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
That was talking? I got a plunger in front of me. You,
I mean I was talking in hotties. Yeah, but we
don't know what it means. I just said what it means.
It means, oh I I I cannot be rid of
my favorite decoration. Captain Solo will stay on the wall.
That's exactly what I say. Tell you, it means well
in Zach Wilson's garbage. I mean, I don't know. Do
I drive to look on the line for any hidden meanings?

(01:48):
The dictionary an urban dictionary, slang dictionary. Oh that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Means.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I didn't know that. Oh, I think I had a
pretty good idea, did though.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh, I'll tell you what. The night in Major League
Baseball is over, And it wasn't about as good as
it could because an NL's team lost the Marlins, and
I got to watch the Mets new manager, which will
wind up being Craig Counsel. Because the Brewers aren't gonna
off from a contract after this year, and he's gonna
go with David Sterns to the Mets. And I got
to watch Craig Council to manage Sternsy. I got to

(02:24):
watch Craig Council manage thinking what's he gonna do next
to and you're a good job. Yeah, because they lost.
Because now if they win, maybe the Brewers pony up
some money to bring him back. But the Brewers, if
they lose, it's a lot easier for them to say
we got to move on, and the Mets got Craig Counsel.
I'm going on. So now I feel like I'm watching
the Mets in the playoffs a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Time to move on, eh, time to get going. Yeah,
it couldn't very much be that.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I'm diaking that. Look at you, you're just trying.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
You're trying to make it positive as things spiral around
your jets, it's good.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, spiral good jet by you. Now
that's the thing here. We got John Paul Morosi coming
up in a few minutes to break down everything going
on in Major League Baseball. But every day the story
gets bigger and bigger about Aaron Rodgers comeback right, and
we got the big report today that he is attacking
his rehab and he is eyeing a return this season.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
He knows who he plays for though, right, yeah he does,
he does he no, no, no, I mean who he
plays well, yeah, well, well that's another part of the conversation.
He goes on the pat Mac if you showed today
and says that there's nothing normal about how I'm attacking
this rehab. The common practice is about six weeks in
a boot, and I was in a shoe in thirteen days.
Now he is way ahead because he had that big.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
You know, the goat doctor Neil Latrosha's surgery where hey,
I can do things to your achilles that people haven't
done before.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
It got cam Akers back playing very very quickly. So
there's no doubt in my mind he will come back
faster than the average person. And I will before I
before I give you the big reality sandwich, everybody's got
to take a bite of, even me. Let me just
say this is that this is a great story for
everybody because if Aaron Rodgers does come back, right, let's

(04:06):
just say he does, this is superhuman, like this will
this will forever change injuries and how long players will
be out and how long we can expect them to
be out until they return. They will return faster. Achilles
injuries will no longer mean twelve months and maybe they
get back and then they return to who they are.
There's advancements in medication all the time, in medicine all

(04:27):
the time, right, I always say, Hey, medicine will save you.
Just you know, live okay, medicine will save you. And
there's no doubt that you're getting faster, quicker timetables. Sure
for players coming back now, certain certain injuries have always
been Hey, torn acl it's gonna be a year. Torn achilles,
it's gonna be a year, or until you come back,
you're out for the rest of this year. You're coming back.

(04:48):
It's just gonna be that case. And certainly, if Aaron
Rodgers tore his achilles at the end of October, then
we know, you know now he's coming back next year.
But here's Rogers who is ahead like everything you've seen,
he is way ahead in his res wanting to come
back at the end of this year. And that story
is that part of it is fascinating because, like I said,
this can change everything. When we talk about injuries and

(05:09):
guys returning in the NFL and other sports, he mutant
akers doesn't.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
He may be trying to go into the full positive
attitude towards the world, except where he takes his little
swipes and things and people he doesn't like.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Sure, Travis Kelcey, it.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Could to show that he's, you know, not one hundred
percent a different guy. He still can turn to the
dark side with the cut to the quick.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah he's still a jerk. Well, yeah, it's still there.
He's he's he's feeling a little bit now, Hey, I
want to talk about being an anti vaxer a little
bit now.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
I'm feeling making fun of Kelly and his endorsement deal,
chomping at the bit right now and the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Like the one thing he did today he talked about
Travis Kelcey before we get into the big reality sandwich.
He talked about Kelsey and he said he didn't really
have a big impact on the game, and he called
the mister pier because Kelsey's got the commercials going on
for for Pfizer and all this about about getting if
you want to get another immunization shot for COVID for
which is which is going around now? And you know

(06:11):
when when that story came out, you sent that to
me today and I sent you back and text saying
Rogers knows who's he plays for, right, he knows it,
and then went back, Yeah, Johnson and Johnson, of Johnson
and Johnson Vaccine of Johnson and Johnson is now trying
to get involved with the government about getting more medicine
to people for less money. It's been a whole big
thing the last couple of days. I know, the everything

(06:33):
with McCarthy and and that's taken up all the oxygen
in the room. But there's been some drug companies that
have trying to strike deals where let's make some medicine
less expensive. Let's try to do it. Okay, that's great,
So he said it going, yeah, mister dude, you know
signs your checks right, you know it's putty Johnson. You
know it's Johnson and Johnson.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
And they did eventually circle back to that in the
course of the interview, but it was the moment that
that took over the internet. Yeah a little bit for
the moment and everybody had their guffaw and oh, I
can't believe it's like no that's not quite the burn
no that you think it is. But if it made
you feel better about yourself in the moment while talking

(07:09):
about your reading, I.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Gotta say, I haven't said anything. I've been on my
best behavior since I became a Jet. I haven't said
anything controversial. I haven't talked about the election. I haven't
talked about getting in.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Which he had done a little something, give me a
little something that showed up.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I was just swifty. So he had the mister so
we had the mister Pfizer thing. But let me just
say this. Let me just here's the reality is that
he's not coming. This is a great story, right, this
is a great story. If he can come back, like
I said, it would change everything. Now I look at
it from my perspective, dude, the Jets are one and three.
The season could be over by Halloween. Okay, I mean

(07:46):
just just let's let's just be realistic here. You can't
sit here and keep telling me, oh, hey, the Jets
are gonna be fine. Look how well Zach Wilson played
one and three one in three. All I heard all
year was the Mets are too good to not hit.
We're gonna start They'll start playing well eventually. No, the
games go on whether you say they're getting better or not,
and the losses pile up, whether they're getting better incrementally

(08:06):
or not. The Jets are one and seven and Zach
Wilson is playing well, it doesn't matter. The season's over.
Let you know, for Aaron Rodgers, it's great. It's great
that he wants to come back, and it's great the
Jets have a thing to focus on to say, Hey,
Rogers coming back. He gusus hope for the season. But
let's fight the reality. One and three. You're one and three.
You lost two games. You probably should have won, right,

(08:27):
You lost the Cowboys, you got blown out, okay. Should
have beat the Patriots because they stink and you somehow
found a way to lose. Should have beat the Chiefs
because you didn't show up for the first quarter of
the game and then you fought your way back and
made too many mistakes and you wound up losing. Should that.
But now you're one and three and you're going into Denver,
and if you're one and four, that's it. Put a
FOURK in the season. That's where you're at. I forget
about this. Rogers could come back.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
I don't give a crap about Christmas or if he's
coming back in December?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Did you just say what I think you said? Is
he gonna dare you? Did you hear that back? If
they're two and eleven? Is he gonna come back? If
they're two and twelve, that's anti Christmas? How care you?
What does it matter? I mean, I care about Christmas.
I cancel because because you know I do, because my
wife already has like thee my Christmas.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
So he goes, don't buy anything Christmas coming? I go,
it's October third? What do you mean Christmas is coming?
But some of at Christmas list? I want to buy
stuff for the next one.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
And a half.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Anyway, I don't care about that. I don't care about
all greates Christmas. This season could be over, man like
it's could be done in a couple of weeks. But
he's given you hope, just like when he first signed
with the team.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's great. Why is it wrong? Well it was good
with because now you got Denver, we won, we could
and in three weeks you got the Giants.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
That's we got to focus on is winning some games here.
Now we're not three and one, but he's not playing. Hey,
here we are. It's three and one, and he's right
checks his ass doesn't have to know. But but the
all the push of hey, Rogers can come back, and
he's such a big dude. One and three. I don't care.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
I care, But he's not talking about the team. He's
talking about himself. He's Aaron Rodgers at me. If we're
in my recovery, I don't care about the team.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Here's twelve me. But if they're two and twelve, guess
who's not coming back him? They're not gonna put him back. Dude,
Why would we put you in we're two and twelve,
Why would we put you in the game that you just.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Made it all about Aaron Rodgers? Right, But he finally
got back to himself. But that's irrelevant because the Jets.
It could be over. It's over, could be it's over,
jot over.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
It could be over before Kirk Cousin hits the market,
before the Vikings say, fine, we'll trade him. What do
you guys want? Before Justin Fields hits the market? Fine,
before Daniel Jones hits the market, fine, what do you want?
It could be over, man, that's what I'm thinking about.
That's what you gotta be focused on Aaron Rodgers. Hey,
that's great, and that's one of those stories that boy,
hey he comes back in the Powers and everything else,

(10:52):
what is it Vincent Peel and working hard? That that's
that's a great deal. But this is the reality. Man,
one and three two teams should have beaten that. You didn't. Yes,
the schedule lightens up a little bit, but you don't
start winning games again by Halloween. I'll be saying, okay, well,
Syracuse tips off soon and here come the Knicks. That's
what it is. Oh, but Rogers could come back. I'm
not gonna see Rogers in the game that matters until

(11:14):
next September. If you're two and twelve, he's not going
to come back for the final three games because I
don't want to sit here and expect to see a
headline at ESPN dot com Jets win last three with Rogers.
Think about what might have been. The Jets finished five
and twelve, but win their last three games because Aaron
Rodgers has come back. It doesn't matter. At that point,
then stop going to ESPN dot com. Exactly matter. Lot

(11:36):
doesn't matter. Save yourself to click. It doesn't matter. He's
selling for himself. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
It's all about him. He's all about him. He's back
to be at Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
We miss sure doesn't matter. It doesn't matter twitter at
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That's what matters. Season's gonna be over in a couple
of weeks. But oh yeah, Rogers couldn't come back. Now
he's not Rogers. Jason, you really got to take the
cut out. It's over, buddy, dude.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
It's October. I was waiting for that to end. Like Scanners.
You gotta hit the ta.

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(12:58):
John Paul Morosi gonna ask all about Sternsy, classmate. It
hardd But first I got I got to ask you this, Jap.
I mean, give me your gut reaction. Mets manager Craig Counsel.
Did you like how he managed the opening game for
the Brewers?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Good evening?

Speaker 6 (13:15):
As far as I know, he still has at least
one more game to manage for the Brewers.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Jason and Mike, I know this has been a big topic.
I have not I have not yet.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
I have not yet reached out to Sternsey to ask
when when any announcements as to the next manager of
the Mets might be made. I know that many people
have drawn this link between Counsel and Seerns.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
And it's accurate. It would make a ton of sense.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
However, again, there's a small matter of Game two of
the series, which is tomorrow between the Diamondbacks and the Brewers.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
So let's let's let.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Craig get through game two and hope and hopefully from
his standpoint, there's a game three and even more. But yes,
I do think whenever the Brewers play the final game,
you may you may call me immediately, even if it's
twenty four hours from now, and we'll be talking about
how soon he might be named the Mets manager.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well, can you hook us into Stsey directly? Yeah, I look,
I gotta think it's gonna be right afterwards, because you
look at Craig Council and it really doesn't make sense.
We have a lot of fun with this because obviously
David Stearns now running the Mets wants Craig Council is wall.
We've heard here's a guy that's done nothing but get
a middle market team into the playoffs year after year,
and he's working without a contract for next year. So

(14:27):
this tells me either he wants to be gone or
the Brewers really they want to move on, which I
can't believe they want to move on. You want to
have the good time stop rolling JP. I mean, that's
one of the biggest crazy mysteries of right now. Here's
a manager who's in the playoffs and yeah, he's probably
gonna be leaving at some point and he's linked with
another team, and yeah, his current team really has no
interest in signing him. Trying to sign to a long

(14:49):
term deal.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Well, I think the Brewers do have interest in signing him,
and they've tried. But I think it's Craig's preference to
play this out. And I think we're seeing why, because
he's one of the best managers in the game for
all the reasons that you're mentioning. He may be realizing
and I'll be measured in saying this. I mean, he's

(15:10):
been able to get to the playoffs a number of
times in a row, but it seems as though, based
on with the exception of twenty eighteen when they made
it to the NLCS against the Dodgers, there has been
a bit of a cap on how far they can
advance with this team at this time, and he may
have concluded that that if he is going to win
at all as a manager, which he's certainly done twice

(15:31):
as a player, that he may have to go somewhere else.
That's one way to read this, And obviously it's going
to be a tough decision if in fact he decides
to leave.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
This is his hometown, he grew up in Whitefish Bay.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
There's a little League field named after him in Whitefish Bay.
I mean, this is his hometown of a hometown story.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
As against.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
He may decide he's got sons playing college baseball.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Now, he might decide that he wants.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
To spend some time to watch them. But then again,
the New York mess job does not come around very often,
especially not with somebody who's who you know well and
is the president of baseball operations there. So I think
you can we can draw the connection. And it's sometimes
sometimes the correct answer is the obvious one. It seems
to be that that's the case here. But I do

(16:16):
think the Brewers have wanted to sign him long term.
He grew up around the organization. His dad worked for
the organization. He was running around the outbuild County Stadium
basically before he was in middle school. I mean, this
was this is his life.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
But I think.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Sometimes you may reach a point where if there's one
more challenge to pursue.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
In life, you take it, you do it.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
You know, that may be where he's at. He may
also be at the point where he says, I want
to get as much money as I can to stay.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
That's also an option.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
It's amazing, Jason, what free agency does for leverage, and
that's what Craig Counsel is living with right now.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
You just heard you mortally wounded Smith as he's sitting
here psychologically. It just took him out. How about on
the winning side of things. Not a bad debut for
the rookie of the Year.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Carol, unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
I don't run by the way I think it landed.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
A little while ago.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Yeah, he was the right center field, I mean, my goodness, gracious,
and again that was against Corbyn Burns, one.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Of the best pitchers in the game.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
And then of course the very next pitch could tell
Marte follows up Corbyn. Carroll, you're right. He's the NL
Rookie of the Year twenty five and fifty for the year,
which the first first rookie ever in the NL to
pull that off. So he's just he's a special talent.
I just love. And this is one of the things
that is so interesting about following players in the postseason

(17:30):
is he's the kind of guy that has success in
the big moment, and right now one game end certainly
looks that way. And it's fun too because the Diamondbacks
also have the veteran Evan Longoria, who was sort of
the same guy now going back fifteen years ago with
the Rays where he shows up and looks so natural
into the two thousand and eight playoffs, Carol might be

(17:51):
the same kind of a guy. And the thing I
love about Carol is he has two things that are
really important attributes in the playoffs. Number One, he's got
a short swing. He's not going to be susceptible to
the big time velocity. He's able to stay short and
put the ball in play.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
And he runs. He runs the bases.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
And think about the number of key plays that we
saw and just today come down to base running. I
think Boba Schet going and trying to score. There was
probably the right call in for Toronto. Korea made a
great play. Yelich had a base running blunder got picked
off second base a domas he could have argued.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Maybe he should have been able to get.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
Back to second on the line shot that Longoria caught.
It's base running is so crucial. The Rangers scored a
run on a wild pitch, but things like that happen,
and Corbyn, Carroll and the d Backs overall have the
kind of athleticism that I think will allow them to
take advantage of situations that they encounter in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
JP The biggest story of the day actually not involving
a game, but you look at what happened on social
media when this just caught fire. Fifteen minutes before first
pitch at Tampa, there were maybe four thousand fans in
the stands. They announced a total of nineteen thousand, and
that's being incredibly generous for the first playoff game of
the year. You know, Tampa winds up losing to the Rangers.

(19:07):
I know they have an agreement for a new ballpark,
but I look at a daylight today and I go, really,
baseball can continue to have baseball in Tampa, because this
is one of the worst optics you could possibly Yeah,
here's the first game of the playoffs, and a team
that's had trouble drawing fans, here's a playoff game, and
you can't even fill half your state, and it's a
small stadium, and you can't fill half your small stadium.

(19:29):
And this has gone on for a long time in Tampa.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Bay, right, it's a fair point.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
They obviously just announced several weeks ago the plans for
the new ballpark, and they are more committed to it
than I've ever heard them before. It's a plan, it's
been announced, the mayor of Saint Pete was there. MLB
has obviously supported this, So it does appear to me
that the new ballpark is real and it's going to happen.
All that being said, to your point, it's not a

(19:56):
great look. And now, in fairness, it's a three game,
and I think it's important to realize that there are
plenty of people who are working at three o'clock and
can't get out in time. I think if it's after
school gets out of it's after work gets out, it's
probably different. I've been at the trop I remember back
game four of the Division Series when they faced the

(20:18):
Astros back in twenty nineteen. It was and that place
was one of the loudest ballparks I've ever been in
my life, and it was raucous and rocking. So I
do think the time of the game has something to
do with it. But you're right, especially coming after the
announcement of baseball staying in Saint Pete, you would have
liked to have seen a bit more. I again, I'm

(20:38):
sensitive it's cool, it's work, and that stuff is really
important in life. But you're right, as a baseball fan,
you would have loved to have seen a full.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Crowd JP though.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Does it speak to the idea that the television side
of it's more important from the dollars and cents of
it all?

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Well, I think it is. And that's and obviously in
this case when you think about MLB, and obviously this
first round is on ESPN and ABC, including you know,
the early game on broadcast television, which didn't always happen
in terms of baseball being on a broadcast network in
the first round of the playoffs. So for a long

(21:15):
time it's been on cable. And obviously I probably sound
like it's probably twenty one year olds listening to say
the same.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
What does it matter? Man?

Speaker 6 (21:22):
It's all it's all exactly, but it does. But there's
still for old folks like us, there is there is
a distinction often between is it on broadcast television versus cable,
And I think for MLB getting one of those four
games on ABC is important to them. So I understand
that TV is obviously very important to all of us

(21:45):
in terms of the media ecosystem and I think you're right, Mike,
that that they would say, if I can get it on,
if I can find a way to get a game
on a great national TV slot early in the day,
and if I'm going to sacrifice ten thousand seats to
do it, I think that's exactly what MLB has done.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
And it's not the first time that that's happened.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
John Paul Morose, the MLB Network Insider with us here
the Jason Smith scher with Mike Carmon. All right, so
complete the phrase here. For me, the biggest thing you
learned Day one of the playoffs today.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Was that the d Backs can play. I mean, I
really think that, and that the the Brewers obviously, for me,
they were one of my favorite sleeper picks up until
about forty eight hours ago when you heard about Brandon
Woodruff being out with a shoulder and then obviously Burne
struggles today Devin Williams gave up a run, two runs actually,

(22:37):
and so now you're starting to worry a little bit.
So I think that's probably the biggest surprise that I saw.
I mean, Texas is a really good ball club. I
was a little surprised that Tampa made four errors that
was pretty surprising for me. So I would say the
plus side surprise of just how completed a team the
d Backs appeared to be with a young rookie and

(22:58):
Brandon fought on the mount. I mean, that's that was
a pretty pretty strong demonstration for him. So I think
the d Back on the plus side a little surprised
at how flat the Rays were.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
The Twins.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
I didn't really have Royce Lewis hitting two homers after
people not being really sure he was gonna even be
on the roster. He goes out and hits two homers
in his first two plate appearance.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
That's pretty cool in.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
The postseason, so I didn't have that happening. But I've
really I liked the Twins a lot. With Lopez and
Gray starting Games one and two, I think that tells
you just how good of a ball club they are.
And all of a sudden, now the Jays face a
ton of pressure. This is their window to win not
just a round or two, but the World Series. And
right now they are one loss away from.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Winter forty six one eighteen.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
With the two seventeen batting average, what's it going to
take to put Pete Alonzo in Wrigley field.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Boo, there we go. How about that Pete Alonzo. I'll
say this, the Cubs need a bat and you know
the other team I'll mention here, guys, is that we've
heard a lot of rumblays the last couple of days
out of Seattle. Seems like they.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
There's some of the players, some of the folks out
there say we need more, some more star power.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
So let's say this. I think that if, if and
when Pete A. Lonzo was put.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
Out there and available, I would say, teams this step
to the front of line, the Chicago Cubs and the
Seattle Mariners.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
But did they not recognize how much love and support.
I don't think who any any baseball player got more
run than Julio Rodriguez this year.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Well he did. I mean he was everywhere.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
He was on a lot of endorsements, a lot of commercials.
You know, he struggled late in the season, and I
think that it struggled in his you know, I'm putting
it in air quotes because in August he had one
of the best months ever. Down the stretch, he was
a little more, a little more average, I would say,
and I think that that that to me speaks to
the process that it takes, whether it's Barry Bonds or

(24:48):
a Roder, anybody that goes through their their careers, those
that maybe had like prominent struggles early on then eventually
had success.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
And I think that that that happens sometimes, I think
for players.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
So I expect Julio to have much better success as
time goes on. In the playoffs, I think they were
asking a lot of him to carry the team at
this stage, and he needs a little bit help, and
I think that that's that's going to be in the
person of a maybe a Pete Alonzo, maybe a Cody Bellinger,
maybe Otani. They'll try, but I do think that that's

(25:19):
the kind of idea for the Mariners, is to maybe
give him a little bit of support so he doesn't
feel quite like can't do it all by himself.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Because there were.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
Certainly some swings where he was trying to go out
of the zone and do whatever he could, and we
see what happens this time of year against good pitching.
It's just that never ever works well.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
This is where you call Sternsy and say, hey, you know,
Jason Smith wants me to put him in touch with
you so you can talk about whatever Pete Alonzo trade
you might have cooking here, because yeah, I still have
I still have a setback from the from the Edwin Diaz,
Jared Keller mcdeal and all that money that we ate.
So you got to talk to stern for me.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
All right, very good. Here, here's what we're gonna do.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
What one of these nights when when you're not able
to you know, if it's another night of the week
or on some other time where I'm traveling on a Tuesday,
just you know, call up the mess and say we
want to have Sternsey on Jason Bush Show, and then
we'll see if we can maybe make that happen over
over the night time.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Is that like a code word? No, we say the
Pope says we need to have Sternsy and that's all
I got to come on the show.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I love it. I think it's that is a great plan.
I love that idea.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
I will I'll do my best to sort of underscore
and put a favorable review on your request. Hopefully, hopefully
the Mets will will take take kindly to your request
or to have them on the show.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
All right, now, lastly, you talked about pressure living up
to pressure. You're under pressure right now because you are
hot again with your Lion's prognostications. You came on last week,
Lions get the w. What's your pick this week? Lions
home for the Panthers. What's the score? How do they win?
How many touchdowns for Jared Goff? You've been hot JP
your hometown Lions Detroit.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Lions twenty eight, Carolina Panthers thirteen?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Whoa whoa twenty eight thirteen.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
At twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Usually to twenty four for the Lions twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
I'm going a little higher now. I mean I'm trying to. Yeah,
I've got that.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
I've got twenty eight thirteen is what I'm feeling. I mean,
I've been pretty I mean I had a fairly disastrous
pick when they faced the Seahawks and loss. I'm feeling
pretty good about this one. I think it's gonna be
a win. And furthermore, with the Lions winning this one,
it's gonna affirm for everybody again this is not the

(27:32):
same old Lions. It is a different Lions team. You
guys have to I mean, we're gonna keep this going.
You guys are gonna be calling me until February as
you got the lines are doing.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I mean they may they may see.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
You know, we began this conversation, the whole Lions thing,
with me telling you and being correct they were gonna
beat Mahomes. What if they see Mahomes again?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I eagerly await your pick for that game.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
What if they see twenty eight again?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Thirteen?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
That's that's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
The last time, the last time the Lions played in
the NFL or yes, back on the NFL Championship game
nineteen fifty seven.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Hey, we're due, We're due.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
He is the He is the president of the Eric
Hippel Fan Club and best friend of Sternsey. It is
the Pope. John Paul Morosi, MLB Network insider JP is
always buddy appreciation. We will talk tomorrow night after the
second round of games, and maybe we are talking to
Craig Council, Mets manager. You never know.

Speaker 6 (28:34):
All right, very good, So you give me shouts tomorrow
night and then all sounds good and I'll look forward.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
To the conversation.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Sounds good. Have a great night. JP will talk to
you all.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
About thanks Stern, Like we know Stern.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
What does sterns you have to say? Call him up
and ask for Sternsey, how much you want to bet
When the Mets make their managerial decision, JP is going
to have the hey, breaking news, I've got to fire
Craig Counsel and you know where it came from, you
know where, you know where it came from.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
And then they'll put up a picture that they got
off his phone with you know, Sternsy looking at him,
pointing at him like beck Guy Sternsy and the Pope
Harvard classmates extraordinary.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon, Here live from the tirerack dot Com
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Day one of the Wonderful world,
but the Major League Baseball Playoffs in the books, Jason
already writing the initials of his new manager JS plus
CS see he's already got one of them right.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Jason couldn't face the music. I was waiting to see
exactly what song Tysher was gonna play. When I found
out it wasn't Tears for Fears, I walked into the studio.
Oh good, good, good.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah, no, so you were just wandering in the hallways
like spray payton stuff. It's poop again, tagging it with
Council's name. Is that Craig Counsel was here.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Uh so we have everybody done, mustache part, everybody done?
Are you done? Everybody done? You've done them in the studio?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Are and I do?

Speaker 4 (30:14):
We still have toilet papers on Fortitude.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Hey as clean up on Aisle, as Pops once said,
And no one used a bathroom for another thirty five
to forty five minutes. Poor goose o. You don't make
enough for that. And that's Caesar to you said, you
gotta go, You gotta go, right, you gotta go. Oh yeah,
life goes on. That was a good sandwich. The college

(30:39):
football ratings came out today from the games last week,
and to no one's surprised, Colorado USC was at the
top had a four share, narrowly beating out Georgia Auburn,
which was ahead of Notre Dame, Duke, Michigan, Nebraska, LSU, Mississippi.
Not a lot of great games on the slate this week,
and Georgia Auburn was very exciting. Was a big game.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Her name game, I mean down to the duke should
have won that game. Suddenly decided to change your defense
after stifling them all day and allow Sam Sam Sam
to go ninety five yards for the winner.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
But now that Colorado has lost twice, now we can
tell you what's next, what's next for Colorado as the
season goes number one. Like we said, once you lose
a couple of games, you lose the attention, you lose
the news cycle, because that's college football, college football. If
you win, if you're winning your games, everybody wants to

(31:32):
talk about you, and you're Deon Sanders, and you were
all anybody could talk about in college football. But we
mentioned it, you have to keep winning. If you lose,
you lose a lot. They lost once and what happened.
The ratings for usc Colorado, while they were great, were
not what the ratings for Colorado and Oregon were. Okay,
I mean, you're talking about a game that was the

(31:53):
most anticipated game of the year, coming off a game
that ten million people watch when Colorado played Colorado State.
So we told you you have to keep winning. Like Ronda.
We compared it to Ronda Rowsy. Ronda Rowsey had to
keep winning. Once she lost, she was going to lose
a lot of attention because well, she lost, how good
is she? Then she lost again and that was basically it,
and then she was leaving, going to WWE. So that's Colorado.

(32:15):
We told you they have to keep winning to keep
the news cycle. And the game against Oregon was the
apex for them, it was the absolute apex, and then
USC was the aftershock. It was okay, now people still
want to see one loss. You're still there, USC you
lose this game. So now being must see TV for
Colorado fades a little bit, not because of anything else

(32:38):
other than okay, you can't really be that compelling a
team in college football when you have two losses. If
Alabama had two losses, we wouldn't talk about them. Right,
you lose two games, you're done, right, you're out of it.
You're we care about who's going to We don't care
about who's gonna win here, what teams are going to
make it to the playoff. We've become about that for
college football, and that only one loss. WHOA, you're really

(33:01):
riding the lightning. Two losses, you're done. So while there
will still be interest in Colorado, it's going to wane
now and it's not gonna be what it was. Could
you say that maybe they weren't gonna be able to
sustain it from the beginning because they got too hot
too fast. Yeah, but if they were still undefeated Colorado, Colorado, Colorado.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Sure, but you lose twice. That's kind of how college
football goes well. But just in general, right, if we
get too much of a good thing, gright. Immediately people
started to talk about the difference in ratings from Taylor
Swift one to Taylor Swift two in terms of the NFL.
And by the way, you're all a bunch of dopes
if you're retweeting the thing about it, she only played
NFL stadium see followed the breadcrumbs like, yes, what other

(33:40):
stadiums and facilities other than giant public parks fit more
than seventy pups as.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Struggling like people like she's a struggling singer. Then hey,
she's grasping for publicity by dating Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
It's a nice, you know, ancillary thing for the movie
at all, don't get me wrong, but I digress. But
the idea of being, you know, do you get a
little bit of a fatigue to it? Maybe maybe not
is the lost big. Look, Colorado is still gonna do
big numbers, right, There's still going to be the anticipation
of the next big performance or maybe for some chaos.

(34:14):
I'd be curious to watch the quarter by quarter numbers
for the game against USC, because, let's face it, at
halftime that game, at least from all appearances, was done right.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
It's like, what else is on? Is there a Harry
Potter marathon on? Right?

Speaker 4 (34:30):
I mean, that's that's kind of where we were headed
in that process with the game being as lopsided as
it was.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
And then lo and behold.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Tata USC's defense let the door open and said come
on in back. Yeah, and all of a sudden we
had ourselves a game down the stretch. But for the
overall college experience, look, they're still looking for a bump
wherever you can get one. Where we're talking Foxes, covered, ESPN,
everybody else, Peacock, whoever can get a little slice of

(34:58):
that pie, it's still going to be tastier and net
you a bigger return than most games.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Now, the dark side for Colorado coming up now is
that here's the second part of it that's a big deal.
Is that now the faction of college football that hates
Deon Sanders and what he's done is just going to
get louder because now what he's doing, they don't like it,
and it hasn't worked against good teams. How good are they?

(35:27):
The backlash against Colorado is now just going to get
louder the back half of the season, and that's what
they have to watch out for because they want to say,
look at me, look at me. This back half could
get pretty ugly. You start losing games and suddenly Dion
doesn't know what he's doing. You're lashing out at the media,
and it could get ugly because that faction of people
that don't like what he does, don't like how he

(35:48):
goes about it. That's just gonna get stay.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
But several of these games are against teams that they
could put forty eight. Yeah and Hunter, eventually you'll come back.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
It's why the pressure is still there for them. They
got to win. They got to win.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
You got to show your Awaketon used to work. Yeah,
I mean, look, it's it's year one. But people are
waiting if you're going to get us. But they're all
a bunch of dopes. The pragmatism of it said it
was going to be too fast, but.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
We'll have more on this than a big story out
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