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October 5, 2023 37 mins

In Hour 2 of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys react to Brewers manager Craig Counsell’s dismissing a question about him potentially managing the Mets next season. FOX MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the show to breakdown the short ending of the wild card round, help preview the MLB division series matchups and discusses some upcoming offseason moves that could happen. Jason and Mike also react to Evan Neal’s comments dissing the Giants fans, the ensuing reaction and so much more!

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Speaker 2 (00:52):
Mercy flee for it. Well for the teams that are
we're playing down one nothing. It is over.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
In fact, the entire first round of the playoffs is over. Philadelphia, Arizona, Minnesota,
Texas all win today, All win their first round series,
which means Tampa Bay, Toronto Marlins, the Brewers are all

(01:18):
going home.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
They got to play two more games than the Mets
in white Sox diss see.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
And that's why I say the MLB needs to have
a little bit of time between the end of the
regular season beginning of the playoffs, because you could still
own the news cycle. We're getting ready for the playoffs.
There's more time to talk about it, relevancy, previews, and
for fans, they get to bask in the glow of
an accomplishment that you know, two thirds of the league
didn't and that's making the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, maybe you get a day or two away from
you know, Week four of the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
But because I look at this and go, yeah, they
play two more games than the teams that didn't make
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Okay, I lost one hundred and one.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know, eventually you gotta play the games right and
you have to look but two days later.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
And you have to lose like that, you gotta lose.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Somebody's gotta lose. He only played best to three. You
can't have bet, you can't have best you know, twenty
one out of forty. So yeah, it's gonna end at
some point, but it's there. There's no time to reflect
and and and I feel like we need that a
little bit, because every other sport gives you that.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
And I like that.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I like the fact that as a fan, I can say, hey,
this is a long run, and I could wear my stuff,
my gear with pride over the course of the week,
and and it's gonna be a fun next few days
because I can at least exhale a little bit. You
can't even enjoy it, okay, the team the teams that
went out already could not enjoy the postseason at all
because they went from Hey, Sunday Final Day, awesome, Oh

(02:44):
now we know who we're playing. The Marlins thought they
could be playing on Monday up until Saturday, might have
to go back and play finish that game with the Mets,
and o'maa and suddenly okay, yeah after tomorrow, uh yeah,
your series starts. And then Tuesday, you're talking about not
even thirty six hours after the end of the regular season.
You're one game away from going home, right. It's it's
it's I don't feel the need to have to rush

(03:05):
into these games and to draw it out a little
bit more. You know, there there's a reason why other
sports work when they have breaks. Every other sport has
a break. There's always a week between playoffs and the NHL,
you have a week between games in the NFL, no
matter what. The NBA, Hey, we have the great glamour
and glitz of the playing games, but really, people don't
treat them as playoff games. These are the games to

(03:27):
get into the playoffs. The other teams, hey, they get
to sit around the top six teams, hey and enjoy.
We got in the playoffs. We get a few days
to hang around and enjoy what's going on. But baseball
just jumps right into it and and I go, yeah,
I just feel bad for all these teams. It's like, yeah,
well the postseason's just starting. Well now we're out, but
you may yeah, but we're out. How are you out already?
It's been like two days. You know, I took a

(03:49):
nap and I woke up and you're out of the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Done?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Really, it's it's it's it could be done a little
bit differently. And look for MLB as late as they
go in the season. Now, there's no reason to not
wait until Friday for the games and play the best,
you know, Friday, Saturday, month whatever you want to do.
There's no reason you can't wait a few days. And also, hey,
maybe you capitalize on more games because you allow teams
to get there pitching rotation in order you don't see

(04:13):
bullpen games.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I mean maybe that's a fun thing to do that,
and that's a fun aspect of it. But I look
at this from the fans perspective of you. I'd like
a little bit more time. I'd like to be able
to bask in the glow if I'm a Marlins fan,
or if I'm if I'm one of the nineteen thousand
raised fans that exist, you know, if I'm a Brewers
fan before I have to wave goodbye to my manager
because he's gonna be going to the Mets, i'd like
to I'd like to hold into that a little bit
and celebrate for a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
A couple of things that come out of that is
obviously we had a lot of things contested into the
final weekend of the season.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
You mentioned the Marlins and whether they were gonna have
to go back to New York. Now, I was really
hoping that we'd get the stand where here's the group
photo of them flipping off the Commissioner's office say we
ain't going back.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
We're in the playoffs. Blank you.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
But you know commerheads prevailed, dang it. But when we
look at moving forward again, you're talking about pitching staffs,
getting folks back to it, you know, into some sort
of rhythm and where you don't have to have the
opener and all, which you know some teams have employed
quite a bit Dodgers. And we go through and certainly

(05:18):
the Raise pioneered that move. But you're looking at you know,
giving a couple of days to set it up, to
talk about it, to to rally around it, and you
get away, like I said, you know, half joking from
the NFL weekend, right, not that those stories don't carry
forward and have weight and look aheads and you know

(05:39):
the good, the bad, the ugly reviews that we do
off of all those games. But you know here we're
moving into the celebration time. Right, it's winning time. You
got through the regular season, let it breathe, right, do
some previews and run through based on the way most
of these seasons ends, Like all right, you clinched on Sunday, Hey,
go play a playoff game Tuesday morning at noon Pacific

(06:02):
go get it, so you have that. The other is,
you know, just to go to the personal level. I
mean you had a rosa na right, mom comes out,
throws a strike, all those things. Luis Arayahs said, Mom
didn't make it because he was gonna come to the
next round. There is no next round.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah right.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean, look, tried to make it a big deal. Hey,
well we'll get it.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
In the next round. I don't know if he was
trying to say the wild card round didn't matter or
just trying to speak it into existence that they were
going to go forward. But now they're done. It's sad.
It's sad. It's a sad end. And now they're just
as good as the Padres, the Mets and the White Sox.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
You're sitting next to me, now, yeah, you were in
first class.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
I barely got to can kum.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
It's like if Major League Baseball is a plane, right,
major League Baseball is a big plane, and everybody is
sitting in uh coach, right, and first class is empty,
and it's a big long it's a six hour flight, right,
and they say, okay, here we go. All of you
guys are sitting in coach you're all sitting in coach.
About five hours into the flight, maybe four and a

(07:14):
half hours into the flight, we're gonna allow a whole
bunch of you to move up to first class. Oh really, well, well,
only about a third of you. The rest of you
have to stay in coach for the rest of the flight. Yeah,
you move up to first class, you get beverage service.
We're gonna give you champagne. We're gonna give you whatever
you want. You get extra pillows, We'll put more movies
on for you, whatever you want. You get everything. You'll
be able to sit and stretch out. We have these

(07:36):
new special seats where they give you a massage. It's awesome, right, Ah,
you're gonna love it, love it, love it. But only
about a third of you. For everybody else you have
to stay there. Okay, great, But here's the other part.
You're not all guaranteed to stay up there for the
rest of the flight. Well, okay, I'll take my chances.
Then I'll take my chances. So four and a half
hours in, they take the third of the the Major

(07:56):
League baseball teams go, okay, you're moving up to the front. Okay,
raise you come up here. Okay, you come up here, Dodgers,
you're all the way up at the front, Astros, you're
all way up at the front, Braves, you're all way up.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
At the front here.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
But all you guys are in first class okay, and
you're sitting here and you're the Mets, or you're the
Angels or the Red Sox, the Yankees, and you're sitting
there going, man, I'm so pad I can't believe that.
I can't believe that four and a half hours in
these teams get to go up there, and I'm stuck
here and Coach, I can't even get my screen to
work for a movie. I can't even get Netflix on here.

(08:26):
I don't even get the music coming in. My headphones
don't work. They're out of diet coke. I can't even
get water. The peanuts don't I can't believe. I gotta
see it. But look at how lucky are those teams
up there. And then four to third and then four
hours and thirty seven minutes into the flight, four of
those teams come back into sitt and coach and you're like, wait.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
What just happened?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
We got kicked out? So well, yeah, we had first
class for seven minutes. Well did you enjoy it?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
B Nah, I couldn't really do anything by the time
I sat down and put my seatbelt on and look
to ring. The flight attendant then teld me to get
out and I had to go. So now I'm sitting
next to you again. How long are you here for
a rest of the flight? All the way from here
to LA if you got in the back with you
and other people are coming out later. But yeah, we
had to come out here, so you're up in first
class for seven minutes.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, was it glorious? Not at all? Yeah? No, No,
I'm back here all the way with you.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
All the stuff I went through for the last four
and a half hours, and I get picked up, go
up there, and now I'm back here sitting next to you.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's why it should be a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, I had a faster analogy for you. You're the
big swinger that goes to the uh high roller area
of the casino. Hey, I'm gonna play some craps, lay
down some money, say hey I want you know, get
me you know Gin and Tonic, and you burned through
that money two craps out, No, and you never get
your drink because you've burned through your cash so quickly.

(09:48):
But I like this just watching people parade past you
coming off the plane because but I mean literally, all
these other folks just got to their vacation destiny. I
saved your seat, buddy.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Go on over right here.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
You're getting off the plane the same time I am.
You're sitting right here. I'll see it, baggage claim.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'm gonna be the guy who sits in the middle seat,
and right when you fall asleep, I'm gonna say, hey,
can you move?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I have to go to the bathroom. I'm gonna be
that guy. Sorry, just hey, can I have to go
to the bathroom? Can you move that? Great? Thank you
very much.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Here, that's the key. I gotta keep traveling with my
daughters because we always travel as a threesome, so we
just get a row together. So well, you may annoy
each other at least people you know, versus someone else
agitating you, and potentially I'm just exacerbating a situation.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm picturing you sitting in the middle and your daughter's
trying to throw punches at each other and yelling at
each other. Just stopped it, and your glasses get all askew.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
And you stop is falling it down.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
You can just everybody stop, right, you just stop put
on your headphones.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
When they were younger, yes, there might have been some
of that, Hey I want to use the headphone jack there?
Why do I do I have to sit here with
blank or I gotta sit on the aisle where I'm
getting assaulted by the beverage card every five.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, all of that.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
But yeah, it's uh, it's sad that that first round
is over, just like that. We were just starting to celebrate.
They didn't even get enough T shirts printed. Note the merch.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'll tell you you wanna, you wanna, you wanna you
want to be able to be on that plane going
through and say, man, sunshine is on and everything is
great and we and then all of a sudden it's oh, yeah, no,
you gotta.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Go back and sit in first it's back and sitting
and coach. But wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
But but you know what, We're gonna go and sketch
out that one point three billion dollar facility.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
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all right, let's hear from future Mets manager.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
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Speaker 1 (11:58):
Well, that's illegally have to say that, just like you,
just like like legally. In the other two Molly Shannon
had to say, Marvel Cmuliu, I legally have to say
Mets managed, future Mets manager Craig Council.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Craig Counsel, who of course is managing without a contract
and likely he wants to head somewhere else. You don't
manage a team into the playoffs again and not have
a contract for next season unless you want to get
someplace else. And obviously David Stearns, who had been running
the Brewers for a long time now managing, now running
the Mets.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
There's more than enough to connect the dots between Craig
Counsel and the Mets. So after getting eliminated tonight, Craig
Counsel was answering questions from the media, and somebody tried
to go in that direction with a let me ask
you about the future, but Craig Counsel didn't want to
have any of that.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Take a listen, any sort of timeline on your decision
for your future.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Do you that ain't for tonight?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Man?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
He just so dismissed. You watched that video, He just
shaking his head. Gup, that's you ask me that tonight? Man.
Come on, come on, don't ask me that man. Don't
ask me that tonight.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Look if he'd been able to get out of there
with nobody asking that question, they should have all been fired, right.
I mean, it's the elephant in the room. You got
Woodri's injury, you got whether Burns is gonna get dealt.
You got a couple of questions of how quickly some
of the guys in your in your farm system are
they gonna be ready to make an.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Impact next year?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
And you've got a question over your manager. You've won
your division three of the last six years, and you've
got nothing but a giant riddler like question mark hanging
over your heads.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's not now.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
It's not the night for that man. Sorry, hey, fight
you Craig Jason Smith in the back. I want you
to complete the sentence for me. Meet the Mets, Meet
the Mets, stat right up. Now, that's where you go.
That's where you go, and then you finish that now
now finish the song.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Finish up. Well, you don't know the song?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Wait, why you're scoring me out? I don't understand. Uh,
we're taking Birdie Brewer with us too. I hope you
would that he's slid down your slide for the last time.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Oh, I mean they might tear it down. I mean
they didn't get to use it now, it's just it's
out there, vestiges of what might have been as they
go quietly into the good night exit.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
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Speaker 2 (14:19):
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(14:42):
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Speaker 1 (15:31):
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We had four sweeps. Joining us now the hotline to
break it all down of what we could see next
No one better MLB Network Inside or Extraordinaire, and one
half of the new morning show that will debut next

(16:16):
week Sternsey and the Pope.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
It is John, Paul Morose and JP.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
What's happening, buddy, I'm doing outstanding, my friends. We've got
Division series matchups, We've got apparently a new morning show
hitting the airwave, which I'm excited about. We'll have to
get into that planning. I always wonder at this time
of the year, you guys can help us shape the show.
Do we need to go sixty percent football seventy percent football?

(16:44):
You never quite know, But all I know is this
is that we've got all the series wrapped up in
advance of Thursday Night Football and now we'll have the
weekend as things get underway there. So it should be
a lot of fun in the division series.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, I always say you play to your strengths, and you,
being the MLB Inside, how do you've been for your career.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
And David Sterns your.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Your teammate and classmate at Harvard, Sternsy and the Pope.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean that already is a great morning show.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
You stick to baseball, and all you do is you
just make sure that you give me David Stearns' email
address so I can email him my ideas for the Mets.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Every couple of days.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I'll like ten at a time, like ten at a
time most that I will send to him.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
That's all, okay, that's fair. I'll work on that. I'll
let you know what we can do there. And I
do think David is going to be a very busy
man for a while. And as you've been asking me,
the Brewer season came to a close tonight. Craig Counsel
was notably asked during the postgame press conference about the
timeline for where he went when he might make his

(17:45):
decision about next year. His response was rather quick, saying
that's not for tonight and then moved on. And so
it does seem that things are very open ended, indeed
for Craig Counsel and his decision making. The owner of
the Brewers, Marcottanasio, said recently that he wants to have
great council back. So we will see where things unfold

(18:08):
here in the days ahead.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
All right, So note to self tomorrow John Paul Morosi
will have the exclusive all right Stearns to hire counsel. Okay,
very up, all right, So with these games tonight, JP,
we watched Philadelphia win, We watched Arizona win, Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
And obviously Texas.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
If I said to you, the team that won in
the first round that can pull the upset in the
next round is who. If you give me all of
these teams that won in the first round, they're all
going to be underdogs. We got a really good team.
Know the Dodgers are going to start playing now, Brady
has started to play the Astros. If you said, if
I said, okay, who, which of these teams that we
saw the last couple nights can pull the upset in

(18:47):
the next round, you would give me.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Who Philly Philly without without a doubt. And I know
the Braves have been the best team in baseball this year,
but just take one look at that atmosphere and Filadelphia
and how this team seems to rise to the occasion
in October. It really reminds me a lot of the
team they had in the latter part of the previous
decade oh eight, O nine, ten, that they were a

(19:12):
playoff team. They found ways to win in October, and
to me, they looked I mean, they looked pretty unbeatable,
I would say against the Marlins, and part of it, yes,
was that crowd. Then obviously that the Braves will have
home field advantage, but I think there's a lot of
pressure on the Braves to sweep those two games because

(19:33):
if the Phillies get one out of the first two,
there's no guarantee that series is coming back to Atlanta.
So I really am just a big believer in the
way that the Phillies player. I also think that the
d Backs are going to be a tough matchup for
the Dodgers. Again, the Dodgers still the favorites they should be,
but we saw in this series the d Backs are able,
I think, to fish with anybody. Brandon Fott had a

(19:55):
brief outing, but their bullpen was historically great in Game one.
Allen comes up in Game two. So I think on
the NL side, we could see some surprise of the
Twins finally as a momentum. Now they've won a playoff
series for the first time in THO two. So my
quick answer and still answer is the Phillies, but I
could be talked into believing that some other teams have
a chance as well.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Jap.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Let me back in up a second conversation Jason and
I had about the well the speed in which the
wildcard round has resolved. I feel like Malkovich and Rounders,
I'm a little unsatisfied, feel like it went too quickly
for me, that these guys are all sitting alongside the Padres,
Mets and White Sox.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Way too fast, right, No, I agree, and I do
think that in general this playoff format is good. Obviously,
we're still, I think now entering this really the second
year of this current format, and I do think there
might be some ways to provide some different options of

(20:56):
how the postseason unfolds. That there was, of course, one
point time a proposal for a seven team playoff, which
would have basically allowed one team to get the buy
and then you would have three first round series and
then that would that's how you would then get to
the best the best of a five division series round

(21:16):
with four teams. So I'm a believer that that actually
would have a pretty good idea as well, to really
prioritize and give that top team the buy and let
everybody else play it out. But I think that you're right.
We have we're now two years into this and we
have not had an abundance of great memories in the
Wildcard Series round yet Cleveland Series last year was pretty

(21:37):
entertaining against Tampa. But I think in general you're right,
and we're we're looking for more, I would say, and
maybe some more drama in the future, and maybe a
new format as well. We've we've got we've got the
time of game figured out, now, the pitch timer figured out,
We've got a lot of young talent in the game.
You know, it's baby steps, like we got to make
sure that we're doing things in a logical sequential order.

(21:58):
We can't fix everything one year. What would Jason and
Mike Havin talk about if we.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Did that the next things that they needed to fix.
There's always something broken, whether it's just our teams or
the game has its own issues like the ghost Runner.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Get rid of it.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
But see, this is what you have on Sternsey in
the Pope. This is what you're gonna have to do
after you have new content every day. You gotta have
it Sterns in the Pope.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yes. And by the way, there is no ghost runner
in the postseason. So this is why Mike loves postseason baseball.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
That is right.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
JP.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
We talked about this last night, and I know that
there's a one point three billion dollar proposal on the
table for a new ballpark in Tampa. But you look
at the last two nights, nineteen thousand people after game
one for the Rays, and after twenty four hours of embarrassment,
they get twenty thousand for the second game. Are we
sure one point three billion to build a new stadium
in Tampa is the right call? And maybe the right

(22:52):
call is something different, like Hey Nashville, Hey Montreal, Hey
North Carolina, you got some proposals.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Well, it's a concern, But I think the one thing
that I would say about about where the situation is
headed with the ballpark is the thesis here. And we
can take issue with the thesis and perhaps argue it,
but the thesis is that when you build a new ballpark,
it's going to have a lot of other entertainment features,

(23:22):
bar as, restaurants, all kinds of cool stuff for people
to enjoy in the area. And that that will in
and of itself bring more people down and really increase
the tendance that way, because it's going to become the
place to be. The trap is not necessarily, as you know,
with all due respect to the old building, it's not
exactly the place to be in terms of it's architectural marvel,

(23:44):
let's say. And so I do think in an ideal
world would you get more than twenty thousand of a
playoff game, of course, but I do think that the
thesis of why they're building a new stadium is they
believe that once they build it, truly, once they build it,
they will come that the people will will want to
be in that area and support the team. But you

(24:05):
would have expected, and frankly, I was a little surprised
that the numbers weren't higher, because I did think with
this team making the playoffs again and now a much
clearer path to a stadium than we've seen there in
the generation, that they would have shown out in a
larger number. Again, I get it, like I said yesterday,

(24:27):
schools and session workers in session. It's not easy, but
it does seem as though other postseason towns are able
to have their games decently attended when it's during the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
JP really excited about the Texas Baltimore series, our friends
in Baltimore, finally having a squad to cheer. Does inexperience
help or hinder when it comes playoff time?

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Well, I think that's an interesting question, because you know,
I've been around teams that are super young and have
a ton of success in the playoffs. You go back,
whether it's the Nationals and Wants. He was a pretty
young player at the time when they won the World Series.
Buster Posey a rookie catcher when the Giants won it
all in twenty ten. So I think for me, the

(25:09):
Orioles have stood ups the pressure all season long. I
don't really worry about them. It's not as though they
lucked into some division. They've been staring in the cauldron
of the American League East all year. Rushman, for me,
as someone who was just a really veteran player, I
think Rushman is a very very experienced guy. Gunner Henderson,

(25:29):
these guys have swagger for how young they are. I'm
not worried in the least about them. They may not
be able to beat Texas because Texas all of a
sudden it's playing really good baseball. But it's not because
they've got a lack of experience. I've seen inexperienced teams
play exceptionally well in October, and I do believe Baltimore
finds the way to win this series with all of
their youth, because their youth is pretty darn talented.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Smith. With all the things JP's told us through the years,
the phraseology of Cauldron of the Al East might be
the best.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Thank you, I used that before? Have I used that before?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
No? I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
No, No, no, no, that sounds It's like NBC sitcoms
in the eighties and nineties. If you didn't see it
in the fall, it's new to you in reruns.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
No, and maybe and maybe that's how they run.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Hey jump into the cauldron on Sternsey and the Pope
like that.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
And then you play Metallica in the background.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
The goal, whether it's in my conversations with Jason and
Mike right now or on Sternsey and the Pope, is
you need to have unique things every day. We're never
going to go back and recycle an argument about about
the Kansas City Chiefs, the Chicago Bears or whatever. The
big zeitgeist is or out there in sports. It's going

(26:45):
to be all original, well researched takes inspired by Jason
Smith and Mike Harmon.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
All right, JP, Let's get to the Dodgers for a second,
because something really interesting with them is happening, and for
the first time in a decade, they go into this
playoff not being the overwhelming favorite to make.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
It to the World Series.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Every year it's the Dodgers and they have the bulls
eye on them, and look, they got there in one
in twenty twenty, but by and large we've seen them
fall short, fall short in the World Series, fall short
in the playoffs. Kershaw's sixth innings foibles are well known.
I look at the Dodgers this year, at a team
that overachieved. It is probably their least talented team they've
had in a decade, and I say, you know what,

(27:27):
going in is not the overwhelming favorite might not be
the worst thing for them. You might see a looser
team having more fun, because you've seen that this year plenty,
and maybe with the spotlight being on the Braves, because
the Braves are clearly the most talented team, that might
not be the worst thing. In a different approach for
the Dodgers, and maybe this is a different result for them.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
What do you think of that.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
That's a fair point, And I do think the Diamondbacks
matchup for them is a really intriguing one because the
d Backs are so young, it seems, and I think
now very confident that they probably you know that they've
played the Dodgers so often, they probably haven't even allowed

(28:09):
themselves to get psyched out about it or get nervous
because they are probably pretty comfortable playing against the Dodgers.
Even though it's been a challenge. It's it's not new
for them. There's not a lot of novelty there. And
I think on the Dodgers side, to your point, you're
right there is there are lower expectations now. But you've
got two of the probably five best players in the

(28:32):
entire sport leading your team there in Mookie Bets and
Freddie Freeman. So I think that for that purpose, they're
a dangerous team. I think when you underrate them, they
can surprise you. And they've got some younger names Bobby Miller,
Ryan Peppio, Emmit she and it's not they're not names
that we know necessarily all around Major League Baseball and
listen that the pitching issues, the pitching issues they've had

(28:54):
are real. I mean, they have had some real issues.
They're missing some significant names from their own rotation. There's
no walk over the Bueler, there's no Judio Rias. I mean,
they're missing some guys that have been mainstage for them.
But all of that said, they've got a young generation
that's come in. They still have a lot of experience
with Kershaw and Preman and Bets and Key k Hernandez

(29:15):
and Chris Taylor, Jady Martinez. I mean, this is a
very very experienced team that I like a lot, and
I think the rest probably is good for them. It's
gonna be a great series coming up. I do expect
the Diamondbacks tip to be a tough opponent, but I
would have a hard time picking against the Dodgers in
this National League Division series.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
That is at John Morosi MLB Network Insider, and check
out the new hashtag and Twitter account coming for Sterns
and the Pope New Morning show.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yes, I tell you what, there's gonna be a live
episode of that show in maybe not a year from now.
But let's say two years from now, before Game one
of the NLCS at City Field, when when David's when
the David Stearns led Mets are are playing Game one
as the best team in the nl with I don't know,

(30:07):
take take your pick of superstar probably not Otani, but
someone else is on the team at that point, and
uh and and they're they're winning and we've got the
show live on site. How about that?

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Hell, and you're managing the team right at that point,
because David Stearns will hire you to manage the team,
So I'll be talking to you as Mets manager and
then you can hire me to be mister Mett and
we're all there.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
I would, I would. I would fire myself and hire
Craig Council if I could. But to me, that's just
my take.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Did you see that John paulm Rosi Press Coverence. He
came out and he fired himself and he walked off stage.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
It was crazy.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
I'm done. It's like, it's like, when who was it
that I'm blanking on the name? Now? The oh Challi.
When Italy was knocked out of the World Cup in
twenty fourteen, he got to the podium after the press
conferencer after the game was over, and Chasati Prandelli said,
I resign, I quit, We're out and I'm done. That's

(31:04):
what he fired himself. Unbelievable. There's just a there's a
certain honor in that position, and and yes, I fire
myself a high a great council.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
There he is. He is John Paul Morosi, which translates
an Italian to John.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Luka Paluca JP as always, buddy, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Having moros Morosi actually means in debt. But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Really, Oh yeah, wow.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
If you want to say Laurel Morosi, that would mean
they are in debt. But if you said Laurel, that
means they are in love.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Oh wow, look at that.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
It goes straight from being in the poorhouse to be
replete and filled with love.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's our guy.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
He's John Paul Morosi.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Believed you, buddy. There goes Jody Sterns and the Pope
in the Pope starts on Monday.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Italian lessons each day too. Now here's your Italian phrase
of the day. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Fox Sports Radio. Who's ready for some love?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Oh yeah, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Live
from the Tireck dot Com Studios. There's lots of rivalries
to get too big. Rivalry week in the NFL. We'll
get to the Bears and the Commanders tomorrow. Yeah, we
are Jets and the Broncos, which is a blood game.
But there may be no rivalry bigger in sports right now.
Then New York Giants right tackle Evan Neil and Giants fans,

(32:46):
a headline that started to gain a little bit of
attention in New York earlier today and then going full
national tonight. Evan Neil took aim at his own critics
earlier today, telling them to Boo Louder Wait waite, what
do you mean, Boo Louder?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Hang on.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
So the Giants offensive line was terrible on Monday, Right,
they allow eleven sacks of the Seahawks and Giants offensive line.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Daniel Jones stings all of it.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, we talked about Neil quite a bit in game
as it was going on. I think I used the
term turn style, which is slightly nicer than Rodney Harrison.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, and the one play where he blocked one of
his own players, He pushed one of his own players.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Out of the way. Dude, he's trying to throw a block.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
He was not happy with being booed, and he you know,
at halftime he was the guy walking off the field
yelling everybody boo louder, boot louder.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Well. He did an interview today which.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
He has had to walk back his comments afterwards because
he was asked about what was it like when you
were getting booed?

Speaker 2 (33:41):
How did you feel about it?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
And his interview with New Jersey Advance Media, he said, quote,
why would a lion concern himself with the opinion of
a sheep? The person that's commenting on my performance, what
does he do? Flip hot dogs and hamburger somewhere.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, not great.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
He went on to say that some Giants fans are
fair weather and bandwagoners. Then you know, after time went by,
maybe somebody told him, maybe realized, oh.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Probably shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Put a post on x formerly known as Twitter, apologizing
saying he was wrong for lashing out at the fans
who were just quote as passionate and frustrated as I am.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
There's passionate and frustrated. And then there's why would a
lion concern himself with the sheep? What do these people do?
Flip hot dogs and hamburgers somewhere? Wow?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Man, wow, dude, whatever, whatever. Whenever you go someplace to
get food, whether you get a hot dog or a hamburger, yeah, wait,
you see what the person making that food is gonna
do for you?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Wait, you see what's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Do you ever see the movie Waiting Stop, don't bring
it up? Ah, mister Neil, you know there's you know
it shirt that restaurant's equivalent of Luis Guzman waiting on you.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Did you just order a double cheese? Got that coming
right up, mister Neil.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Hey wait to block man, you guys a you get
a bad rap on the offensive.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Line the way you blocked Waller to cause that interception,
man freeing his guy to circle back around and hey,
bludgeon Daniel Jones. Oh that was crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah you know what you know?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Hey, here have this hot dog, egg, got extra mustard,
extra onions? Hey all for you, Evan Neil, that's good,
you know there's very few. There's very few phrases in
sports that are uniform forever, right, because times change and
things change, and something that went by and you could

(35:40):
subscribe to you twenty years ago is not the case now.
But one thing that will always be the case. No
player has ever taken on a fan base, his own
team's fan base, and one that has never worked. It's
never The power of the fans will beat the power
if you want to. If you want to start a
fight with your own fan base, Nonumber one, it's stupid.

(36:01):
Number two. You want to start that fight, you are
not gonna win. If Tom Brady turned on the Patriots
fans when he was playing quarterback, gets who was gonna
win that? Patriots fans they were gonna win it, and
they would they would speak with their wallets, they would
speak with their interest level, they would speak with their
with with their booing. You can never take on your
own fan base and win.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's it. That's an absolute loss.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
It was.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
It was a loss one hundred years ago, fifty years ago.
It'll be a loss fifty years from now and one
hundred years from now.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, I mean there's nothing he's put on tape, uh
to where you've earned the right even to, you know,
kind of blash out a little bit. Let alone, come
come this strong and as soon as you go and
demean the occupations of the people that are cheering for you,
you know, paying your salary, buying jerseys of the squad,
all of those things. Not to be that guy, but

(36:49):
this is one where I mean, you're you're not winning.
You're not winning, which is why he had to backtrack.
And we're talking about it nationally, think about it in
New York and New Jersey. Hey, we don't have to
do a show to what do you do? You're gonna
take calls to rip Evan Neil. We're gonna have to
do a damn thing. Read the sponsored tags and then
get out. Hey, Joan and Poughkeepsie, what do you think

(37:13):
of Evan Neil exit?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Out about a Fresca exit swollen down the Jason Spitzer
with Mike Carmon coming up next, we get back into
the biggest story of the night.

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