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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the Niners vs Cowboys game with them making a prediction of who wins the game.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 3 (01:06):
The Green Bay Packers and the Las Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
I'm just kidding, but I know you wanted to talk
about something that happened at halftime of the Illinois game
on FS one.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, you know, it's just more the idea of the
Illinois fighting in fighting a line I celebration of Dick
Bucus and they were lifeless and that's what we kind
of got bore witness to as you flow through. Nothing
too exciting in terms of the game, but yeah, a

(01:37):
little little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Just for me.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I was saddened that, you know, there there was wasn't
a whole lot of juice from a team coming out
against Nebraska and Matt Rule the day after Dick Butkus
is passing. I also wanted to update that I can't
count tomlin Is eighteen and fifteen against Oarball, So that's okay,
just extending at a little bit further.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
You're telling me here now it's still all love his fault.
It's still is It's still all love. He's okay, all right,
very good now speaking of a little Yes, they did
lose the Nebraska type, but you told me something I could.
I'm glad I got the trivia question right. Illinois only
retired two jerseys in the history of the school. They've
been playing football since like seventeen hundred, and it's it's

(02:22):
Dick buckets and Red Grange and that's it. That's it.
Like that, that's it. That's that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
And he's got a statue that they gave him a
few years back. His speech to commemorate it, uh, in
his like the press conference was just fantastic. He curses
a bunch and and just talks about how much he
loved beating the hell out of player. That's all I
can say on radio. Can't use your words that he
did say.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, look, he did say I enjoyed I enjoyed beating
the hell out of people. He did say that. No, no, no,
but like he.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Didn't use hell no, right, he got he got a
little deeper in the words he did say on radio. Right,
that's all. But but like with a giant smile on
his face while doing so. My favorite tweet at the
last twenty four hours though, I mean, there was a
great back and forth that Jared Payton had with Mike Ditka,
right talking to him about it, and you know how

(03:10):
tough sob he was and everything. But was that Joe Namath,
in an acknowledging Butkus's path passing just said, I'm really
glad I never had to play against him. Yeah, I
mean they come into the league together all those things.
But you know his big thing was yep, great player.
Always loved his work, So glad I never had to

(03:31):
have him charging it me. So yeah, big night, you know,
big ten action on a Friday night and a lot
of shots of Butkus acknowledgment and you know, I'm certain
certainly for you and I a lot of videos rolling
around of remember this play. How about this play where
he shows this guy the football? How about this where

(03:53):
he scores off a botched field goal and then he
shows the guy the football?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah like that?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Would you'd have fights all over the place?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh sure, Oh sure, one hundred percent. And you know,
and pretty much you might hit on something. We might
need Big ten after dark now because the PAC twelve
is going away. PEP PAC twelve better dark was a thing.
Now we need big ten after dark.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
But here's the thing is, you know, I need some
more excitement in the games that are gonna be after dark.
If they're going to be after dark, I mean, this
was a listless effort. By the way, they're also zero
and six against the number this year, so they're not
even helping out their backers. No, not only you're not
winning games. But you know, the people with the blind allegiance,
like those guys that throw down thousands of dollars on

(04:33):
the Cubs in Vegas every February in March to win
the World Series. Anybody that's just blindly betting the ALIGNI
they're losing their ass.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah yeah, I know. Well, well listen, listen, look Belama,
it's not work, Brett, listen. Brett Beilama is the how
do I say this? He is the like if we
talk about Ed Ordrin being America's interim coach, like he's America,
Brett Beilama is America's berman head coach, like he is
the most journeyman head coach in college football there is, Right,

(05:06):
there is no bigger journeyman than Brett Bielab because usually
guys go and they hey, they start out in a
lower in a lower conference, they work their way up, right,
That's it's kind of how you see it, right. I
started out and like DDE, I started out Jackson State,
I jumped to Colorado. I jump here. That's usually how
it goes, right, the guy, the guy starts and he
jumps around. Brett Beelama started out the head coach. He

(05:29):
jumped from being the DC at Wisconsin to the head
coach at Wisconsin and you know he's gone from Wisconsin.
Then he was a head coach at Arkansas, then he
went to the NFL. I was a head coach in Illinois.
He is a journeyman head coach man in the college
football You want a guy at a at a Power
five school that's a mid me that's a mid power

(05:49):
program and a Power five conference. That's what you get.
You want to you want a head coach to coach
you are middle of the pack team in a Power
five conference. Bet Brett Bielama is your guy one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
As you look look at them for this season thus
far they fall to what two and four on the year.
That means he's back under five hundred as a coach
at Illinois fifteen and sixteen, had that nice eight and
five season last year before a loss in the RelA
Quest Bowl. What the hell is relya Quest. I know

(06:22):
they're not a sponsor, so that's okay. But go back
to when he became the head man at Wisconsin. A
couple of Rose Bowl berths, the Champs Sports Bowl a
couple of times, and out Back Bowl bloomin Onion and
a Capitol One Bowl. So he went two and four
in bowl games, and he had four double digit win
seasons and then just a guy sixty eight and twenty

(06:47):
four at Wisconsin, twenty nine and thirty four at Arkansas,
and now just sub five hundred at Illinois.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
You know, and I still I remember his first game
and I thought he was gonna be the next great
head coach in college football, right because his first game,
I want to say, or his first game there was
a like they warmed up with a couple of cupcakes,
like and he won some big, big ten titles at Wisconsin,
but like his first big game that well, okay, people
are paying attention because it's not you know, alcoa state

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and different things. Was they're playing Michigan in the Big House,
and there was a call that went against Wisconsin right
before halftime. It was a pretty big call that instead
of Wisconsin like it was a fumble or a turnover
or something that was really a bad call, and Michigan
wound up putting it in the end zone. And so
right at halftime, you know, they go, hey, let's go
down to Lisa Salters. Whoever's down Holly row with Brett

(07:37):
Bilima and and and they go down to him, and
he's smiling and he and he's got his hand out
and and and they go down and whoever it was says,
you know, coach, what do you think about that? That
call at the end of the first half there clearly
looked like it happened right in front of the official,
and it looked like it should have been it should
have gone your way. What do you think about that?
And he just smiled and said, well, maybe it's his

(07:57):
first game in the big house too, and and I
was like, oh, that was a pretty cool thing. Just hey,
that was pretty I said, Okay, it's not. And he
wound up losing that game. But still then he went
went on I think two or three Big Ten championships. Uh,
and then he jumped to Arkansas for some ridiculous reason,
like you don't go from Wisconsin to Arkansas, man, you know,
Wisconsin into something, you know, bigger than Arkansas. But that's

(08:18):
what I thought, Okay, he's gonna be a really good
head coach and instead, you know, look he won and
then he never really capitalized on it. Now, like I said,
he is a he is a journeyman. Head coach in
college football.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Still thirty nine games above five hundred for the career,
you'll take it.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, like I said, for a mid level program, Yeah,
that's great, but you know you're not. You're not. You
don't last that long at USC or Alabama or Michigan
if your record is you know what, twelve and seventy four,
I would say, I.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Would say this.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I really did.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
And and I think Pete Futech who joined us earlier, uh,
and we kind of lamented the the play. I didn't
have a wager on the game. I believe he did.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I don't know why he would jump on board that one.
But the fact of the matter is that you had
a good year last year, so you're like, all right,
you're gonna build on that and it's going to become
a more consistent product. And instead it's been anything but.
And so for Beilamine company, with the conference getting that
much harder and the opportunity this year in theory with

(09:14):
the ouster of Fitzgerald at Northwestern that you know, you
could claim back some of the ies Mines recruits, whatever,
and instead you haven't been able to really gain any
kind of traction.

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and Save at Progressive dot Com. So this weekend coming
up in the NFL, we're going to preview the real
biggest game of the weekend coming up later on this hour.
But what mask rades is a big game. I don't
see it being close at all. Forty nine Ers and
the Cowboys a lot of attention about this, and you know,
Jason Cole joined us last hour and Shocky goes, I

(10:12):
can't believe. I agree with you. The Niners are gonna
win this game in a route and they're just better.
Their offense is better. Nobody has big days against the Cowboys.
Against the forty nine Ers defense, they're not gonna score
enough and the Niners are gonna score more point. Its
gonna look like the NFC title game or the NFC
Divisional playoff game they had last season, except forty nine

(10:33):
ers will score more. The only thing the Cowboys have,
and this is the only way they're gonna be able
to And still it's a low percentage chances. They gotta
get brock Perty to turn the football over. The thing
is he doesn't turn the football over. You gotta take
a lot of chances. You have to blitz him. You
have to try to get him to make questionable throws.
And even then, what are the forty nine ers gonna do? Okay,

(10:53):
it's not working, Hey, Christian McCaffrey, this is your game,
right or we're gonna throw it short a lot of
Deebo Samuel with jet sweeps and different things. We're gonna
try to change up what we can do offensively because
we can, because they have the horses to do it.
They have great wide receivers, they got a great tight end,
they've got a great running back. I mean it's not like, hey,
if we take this away, but certainly, big turnovers can
flip a game, even if it's a game that one

(11:15):
team is dominating. That's the only way they get to it.
I don't see it happening. But if the Cowboys do it,
that's the only way they can. They need a crooked
number on the board of turnovers to win that game.
Two might not even be enough. They might need to
get three. Party's got to give them three or two
in a fumble somehow. That's the only way I can
look at the Cowboys winning this game.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I think one of the big points to make on
this game is that, barring some sort of setback, the
Cowboys will actually have all five of their expected starting
line line ready to go right. They've been missing key
components of that unit all the way through and making
good and that's fine. Pollard runs with great burst, and

(11:58):
we've seen that through the the first four games of
the year. And but the key is and don't fall
behind right, don't give up the big play, the explosive play.
Deebo Samuel, who was a bystander last week. You got
to keep him there, Brendan Ayuk, who's been banged up
a little bit, keep him in check. To your point
about Purty, he doesn't give you a lot of opportunities.

(12:18):
And I know folks were really focused on one throw
last week. He's like, that's that throw it's like you
found one of four in completions. Okay, fine, Like almost
every quarterback's got, you know, the one they'd like to
have back, and oftentimes because it is so rare, the

(12:40):
defense doesn't catch it because they're not expecting it to
be a terrible throw. Right. If it's a guy that, hey,
you know what, if we get him in this kind
of pressure situation, he's gonna take shots. He's gonna gamble
a little bit. Go back to Week one of your
Jets against the Bills, knowing that Josh Allen sometimes will
basically play street football and punt check and just throw

(13:01):
it downfield. Maybe his guy makes a play, but you
have an opportunity. Brock Purdy to this point has not
been that guy. Now, George Kittel got his refreshing stint
as at a WWE event, so he's ready to get
back out there Sunday Night football. One of the great
showmen that we have in McCaffrey's been otherworldly. Is that

(13:22):
defense up to the task. What's Micah Parson's foot injury?
How much is that gonna limit him? Because certainly the stats,
as Cole alluded to are are just ridiculous in the
one on one wins and everything that you do, those
metrics of how they roll through. But here it is
the referendum on Dak Prescott. You want to win about
a lot of people over This is where you have

(13:44):
to show out you don't. The poison pens and columns,
they're already written. They just need to change some stats
and the date.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Twitter and how about a fresco Mike ha swalling down
the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
good luck Dallas. Good Like I said, Cowboys should just
treat this game like it's any other game because they
don't want to try to explain to each other what
just happened on Monday. We said that earlier this week.
Don't treat it like its super Bowl and a half.
Don't treat it like it's a big measuring stick. It's

(14:13):
one game because you're gonna get pounded, and then where
do you go from there? Emotionally right, because the Cowboys
have been riding that emotion all season long, and you
can do it for a while, but you gotta know
when you got to back up on it and go, okay,
this needs to kind of just be a business trip.
And likely we're gonna and this is McCarthy and this
is everybody knowing that, hey, if we lose this game,
we got to be able to bounce back the next

(14:33):
week and not have it turn into something that we
turn this into a two or three game skid and
we're wondering how good we're going to be. That's the
most important thing for the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
But Jason, as we talked about to start the week,
you know, as we get excited for this game prime time,
you got Tarrell Owens cutting promos about getting your popcorn
ready and all that fun stuff. All the great images
of these battles going back some forty years is that
you're looking at. We had a Cowboys team that after

(15:02):
four games, do you have any idea who they really are?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
We think they're really good. They played some pretty bad
opposition to this point, I thought New England would give
them a game. Notice how when we did upset specials
because they're a one point favorite, I can't even be
tempted to take them this week, which is great, great
for me, But I mean, you look at the New
York Giants, the New York Jets, you look at the
Patriots and then they got punched in the mouth by

(15:28):
the Cardinals. How good are they? They put up a
bunch of points. I'm not disputing that the style points
can be there, but they've played.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
All bad team.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Here's your first real squad, real battle ahead of you,
and it makes for great theater.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen.
So there you go. Everything you need for Dallas and
San Francisco on Sunday. What about some big moves today?
We had a trade, We had a big activation. News
the best wide receiver in the NFL is going to
be back playing on Sunday. We got to the quarterback.
Who's coming back? What does it mean? What does it
mean for this week and beyond. I'll keep it right

(16:07):
here because one of those three topics means something way
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Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh, every time I hear this song, I want to
go to the prom. The Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Did you get asked to homecoming? Quite a big homecoming
asks out there?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, yeah, No, My daughter's got home coming tomorrow night.
Her and her friends are all going together. That's awesome.
He's very excited. She's got a dress and everything.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
It's like, wow, it's Jason Smith.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
This is the principal's office. Your mother is here to
pick you up.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
I'll be there to get you at ten thirty. Everybody,
I'll be there to get to you later.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Honey, are you McDonald's. Are you chaperoning? No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
No, I'm not chaperoning.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Hey hey, hey six feet don't you remember six feet? Mike?

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Can you imagine Jason out of high school prom?

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Dude? You know what happened is they would find out
what I did for a living, and all the kids
would leave their dates. They would ask me questions, how
are the rams gonna do? What about usc? What about this?
What about Wow?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Only the parents that are there as other chaperones know,
and the kids like nobody would be paying attentions like
hey hey dad, dad, you know what you know what?
You know what that guy does? And now that quarter
of the gym is open season for whatever. Tom foolery
and shenanigans they're looking for.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Well, but the thing is is, Zoe's school is a
pretty good foot They have a pretty good football programs.
It's pretty big football school. So so there's a lot
of players that love football and love the edge.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Jason, you make better friends if you told him you
committed a federal crime.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Wow, it's true, you'll make way better friends.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
What do you think the youth of America is like?
Where if I talk about that I'm someone that does
something illegal, they would like me more.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Jason, it's high school.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
We all liked Erica exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Wait a minute, Okay, now wait a minute, wait the way.
And when I said it that way, it sounded a
little bit different.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Oh, mister Smith, what exactly did you do?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I committed a federal crime.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Let me tell you. You know how many turnovers they need?
Brock perty to have them Sunday. Don't leave, don't turn around,
look at me. They need at least three turnovers if
the Cowboys are gonna win this game on Sunday. You
could take that to the bank. Yeah, you take it.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah. I didn't come here for the hot takes. I
came here for the hot gossip. What did you do
to potentially get thrown in the clink?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Although, hey, speaking of I should tell all right, I'll
tell you this really quickly. This is a great story,
so Harmon does apparently. So last week I went to
a freshman football game my daughter's high school because one
of our two of her friends that she knows ince
grade school. Two boys were playing in the game. So like, oh,
go see them plays, you know, heckle them. Oh no, no, no, no,

(18:53):
come on, I'm not not uh And and one was
a wide receiver so it was easy to see he
was pretty cool. So the game's going on and the
head coach is getting really upset with the referee and
he's yelling at him, yelling at him, And at one point,
after the other team scored a touchdown, the referee yells
at yells at the coach. He yells, if you think
you could get somebody out here to do better, then

(19:15):
you get that person out here. And I'm saying here
and now you know, because because I'm a coach and
people know me, he's being coach soccer and softball, I
would say, this is where if that coach says one
more thing, he's getting thrown out. He says, one more thing,
he's getting thrown out. They kick the extra point and
they go to kickoff, and suddenly you see the referee
just turn and throw the flag to the sidelight, going
you're out, You're gone, You're gone. Someone Wow, the head

(19:37):
coach just got thrown out of the game, right, So
he throws him out of the game. It's a freshman
football game. He gets thrown out of the game. So
he's got to come in the stands with us. So
I'm watching this and this is great. He comes into
the stands and he's still calling the plays on offense
and calling informations on defense. At what First he's funneling
them through his assistant, who's getting them to the players.
Then he just realized, you know what, I'm not even

(19:58):
gonna do it. I'm gonna be that was on the field.
So the play so the captain would come like to
the you know, the hash market between plays, look, and
the coach would signal in what he would want and
I'm going, this is kind of embarrassing. The coach is
able to sit there, but the referees they just want
to do the game right. So then halftime comes and
and the teams go to the locker rooms and they
come back out. They come back out for the second half,

(20:19):
went end of the field. The coach is out there
and he's warming up the kids on the field. How
does this happen? I don't understand. He got thrown out
of the game. How does this happen?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Did they run him or what? No?

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Because then the second half started and he.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Was on the sidewalk, and I now want to know
what the high school rules are You only thrown out
for a half? Is that the rule? I don't just
not care.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Did he apologize? You get thrown out for a half? Now?
There was no apology. I think the referee was just
like whatever, I'm just gonna whatever. The game is gonna
be what it is, and that's five yard. But I
can't I'm going, Okay, well he's calling the plays, Okay,
I can see that. Well, okay, well now he's warming
up the Okay, But when the game nope, nope, he's
on the sideline again. Okay. Then so he just spent
a few minutes in the stands and then he was back.

(21:10):
I love that. That's like a movie. Wait, is that
the coach he's out there with a fake mustache. Oh no, no, no,
he didn't try to No, same same way. He wasn't
Bobby Valentine like putting on a mustache. Oh no, no, no,
he was. I I'm gonna wear this and I'm gonna
go back out there and coach. It was crazy. I
love that as yeah, yeah, yeah, see, so there's a
little bit of what football is like I am.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
I am scrawling that into the notes for the next screenplay.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
But I really think my favorite part was when I noticed, oh,
now he's not even going through the coach, He's just
sending him out to the captain, because the captain's just
turning and looking pat these.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
I'm not even doing in the middle man anymore. That's
that is so great.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, that was that was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
But as long as he wasn't open in his mouth,
I guess the ref didn't care.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I guess not. I mean, yeah, I mean there was nothing.
I mean, I'm the coach at the other team. I'm
a little fussy. Oh I don't think the coach team
even knew it was going on. He's like, what happened
to you? Throwing it in the car. But though I
did have to leave, like middle of the third quarter.
So I don't know if any but I don't think
anything happened after that from what I gather. I said, hey,
what happened? They said no, no, he coached rest of
the game, Like, oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well he left the game after receiving a swinging neck
breaker from the official.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Hey, good game, ref, Hey, good game, thank you. That
was great, Thank you very much. That's great. I thought
I threw you up. Now maybe that was the last game. Okay,
that's fine, but man, he threw that flag like he
threw it as far as he could, like he was
right after the extra point and he just threw that
thing like it was a discus.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
So it was the anti Belichick.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
It was awesome. I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
We had a big well I shouldn't say big. We
had news today where a trade kind of shocked me
that it made the headlines that a day. Wait a minute,
Chase Claypool is traded, and suddenly it's Chase Claypool is traded.
Like wait a minute, wait, wait, not Jamar Chase, No, no,
Chase Claypool. Chase Claypool is traded. And suddenly look at
this story. And I'm saying to myself. What I mean,

(23:05):
Chase Claypool's gonna go to the Dolphins to be the
number five receiver. Now there is a big takeaway from this,
but the overall impact, I'm like, what I mean, the
Dolphins have the guy, they have everything they need. Chase
Claypool is is like I said, He's gonna come in
as a number five receiver when he's ready. This is
not really that big a deal. I mean, great for
the Bears. Hey, they win a game, they're they're continuing

(23:28):
to honor the memory of Dick Buckis and and now
here they trade away a guy who was a problem.
And hey, I don't know if there's any any correlation
between there were zero and four they told Chase Claypool
to stay away from the team, and now they won
a game. But you know, hey, the Bears are all right.
The Bears are owning the news cycle now this week.
But I didn't think that Chase Cleepool trade was that
big deal.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Well, I mean for the Bears side of things. Remember
they did give up a second rounder that became I
think it was Joey Porter Junior right going to the
Steelers for for that pickup of Claypool. So there were
expectations with the way this offense was going to be
constructed that with Getsi and fields next year bringing in

(24:08):
Dj Moore, that there was going to be enough in
this offense to push forward that Claypool could get a
fresh start.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Well now he goes and tries to find the next
fresh start down in Miami. So for the Bears sending
him away and not having to worry about all right,
we got to try to force him the ball and
if he's on the field, he's not going to pretend
to block, so any of the stuff that other teams
get as a bonus, And that was one thing the
Bears for a long time. Go back to Brandon Marshall,

(24:35):
some of the other wide receivers, well it might have
been the place where receivers quote unquote.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Went to die.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Those guys all engaged in downfield blocking and help the
run game, help their quarterbacks out. Claypool was a statue
out there. He might as well have been a cardboard
cutout at times. So not having to worry about all right,
if we run it there, you're probably gonna get the
extra body because Claypool was p's not running through his

(25:01):
routes he's not giving you any help on the edge.
So I would imagine from an offensive set that helps
a little bit, a little more freedom. All right, that
guy's gone give me somebody that's gonna give me max effort,
because that was one of the things that came out
in the wash for the Dolphins. What do you give up?
Bag of balls? And now you try to be the
next fixer.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
You gotta fix things now speaking a fix this gets
into the next part of this story. This is where
I think it gets a little bit bigger, Mike, is
that their moves the teams make, and the Dolphins clearly
looking at themselves as being one of the best teams
in the NFL. Right through the first few weeks, we saw, Hey,
we saw the Niners are legit. The Eagles obviously are legit. Hey,

(25:45):
the Chiefs are still three and one, the Super Bowl champions.
But the Miami Dolphins have jumped in. They're the new
team that says, hey, make room for us at the
top of the list of elite teams, and certainly, scoring
seventy points against the Broncos is gonna do that for you, right,
But there's moves that teams make that are preemptory moves

(26:06):
where hey, we think we might run into this issue
later on in the season, maybe let's try to solve
an issue now before it really comes up and gets big.
And then there's moves that are made that are knee
jerk reactions just because you lost the game and the
Dolphins were three, and oh, they go in and they
play Buffalo, and Buffalo just just steam rolls. Then, right,
Buffalo plays great, they win forty eight to twenty. The

(26:27):
Dolphins offense wasn't as great as it was the week before,
but look, you know, when you score seventy, you're.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Gonna get a little bit of a bout. I told
you so, Yeah, you're gonna get You're gonna pick a
step up in class. Though, right between where Denver and Buffalo,
I mean that Jets game might as well have been
six months ago.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Gonna forget, Yeah, I mean we're gonna walk away and
go how did the Bills lose to the Jets after
they lost Roger? But the Dolphins make this move for
Chase Claypool, and it makes me wonder how fragile their
mental state is and if they have enough to make
it through a seventeen game season as a big time contender,

(27:07):
because this was a move that was made as a
knee jerk reaction to losing last week. If they beat
the Bills in their four and zero, do they make
a trade for Chase Claypool. I don't think they do.
I think Claypool winds up someplace else. He's still sitting
out for the Bears and they're waiting to try to
make a move with them. But they make this trade. Okay, well,
maybe we're gonna need more offense to some point, let's
get Chase Claypool. Like it's different if they're saying, hey,

(27:30):
it might be a problem. But this looks like a
knee jerk to losing last week. And you can't coach
that way and you can't act that way. You can't say, well,
we've lost this game, so now let's overcorrect and make
sure that doesn't happen again. All right, Well you go
get Claypool. No, you didn't give anything up for him.
It's not like you hurt the future of your team.
But just seeing the mentality of the Dolphins of hey,

(27:51):
we lost, and now we got to do something to
move on from that and show that we've learned from
this lesson and we're going forward, and so we go
get Chase clay Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I'm you. Look,
Mike McDaniel is a really good head coach, but this
is gonna be his first time through everything as being
a contender and being you know, and and worrying about

(28:12):
punching down all the time because that's how good the
offense is and that's how good the Dolphins are. And
I don't I don't see it as a hey, peremptory problem.
This is hey, knee jerk to solve what happened last week,
when Hey, sometimes you just got to play man. You
lose a game, you come back next week and you
get back at it. That you can't get too high
and too low and think that after every week, Well
there's all these things we need to do to fix it.

(28:34):
And I feel like this is a let's fix last
week by doing this right now, to go get Chase Claypool,
who honestly is a guy that we saw get let
go by Mike Tomlin and a guy get let go
by the Bears. And if they couldn't jump through and
the Bears were looking for another receiver so bad. I mean,
this is this, this is not the guy to say, hey,
all right, he's gonna come and save our season. So

(28:55):
that's why I just get the the desperation of this
is just I wonder about Miami ability all season long
to be that contending team.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Now, I will say this because there was another move
made today, another trade that because they're dominating and you
think they're just gonna walk all over the Cowboys this week,
the forty nine ers, they go pick up Randy Gregory, right,
the Broncos were rumored that they were gonna waive him
just a year after signing him to a seventy million

(29:24):
dollar deal.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
You go buy distress properties and when you're a team
where it doesn't hurt you. I mean, look at the
forty nine ers. I mean they're teflon Don's. Anybody else
is getting skewered because of the trade land stuff. You
traded up, you did what But unlike the Bears when
they went and got Trubisky, trading with said forty nine ers,

(29:47):
you know, they kept winning. Bears did not. Even though
the Bears went to the playoffs twice with Trubisky, the
overall impact has not been as great. So you can
go and you've got some leeway to go and just say,
you know what, we could make things better because you
have had some injury issues up front. So here's a
guy that adds to your depth. Likewise, it was Chase Claypool.

(30:08):
You could have waited until the release. How do you
know he was gonna get released? Might there been another
offer out there from some other team. Maybe I don't know,
but the idea is, all right, he's down. Once upon
a time he measured here. This is how the organization,
how we as evaluators looked at him. Maybe we can
get some piece of that back. And he gives us

(30:29):
insurance for a very low cost. If one of our
top guys goes down, you don't need him to ramp
up and become a major contributor right now. You just
needed him to learn the offense. And maybe there's a
wrinkle for a guy who used to be able to
jump out of the gym and eat space as a receiver,
maybe as a tight end, as has been theorized by
some folks down there in Miami. Yeah, I'm going distress property.

(30:52):
Something bad happened, you know, it was a fire, some
unfortunate circumstance. People just don't want any part of that house.
Maybe they had a you know, a little bit of
a mold issue years ago. Maybe maybe you know, they
had a rat problem. I don't know all that could
be alleviated dat but problem. But it's you know, you
can get that fixed. But people have a bad taste

(31:13):
in their mouth because of what that property was.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
You know, they.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Remember the people that lived there that weren't great.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Here's an opportunity to swoop in and that's I think
what Miami did here. Now is it the right thing?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Again?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
As you said, as soon as Mike Tomlins says you're
done and I can't handle you anymore, I'm probably not
jumping in on that. But now your two teams removed,
and you think you're the genius, and everybody's telling you that,
you start reading your own press clippings.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Exit. How about a Fresca exit, swollen dome. I got
to look a little bit deeper in this Dolphins train.
You see a little bit of nervousness and anxiety right now,
a guy with no nervousness or anxiety because he knows
the final scores of all the games. It's Steve de
Seger with what's trending.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
Two whole games in college football. Tonight on FS one, Nebraska,
it was a winner at Illinois twenty to seven. Even
though Nebraska had three turnovers ten penalties. Oklahoma State held
on to beat Kansas State twenty nine. Twenty one Cowboys
on field goals five for six. Saturday, Maryland five and
zero will be playing at number four ranked Ohio State
noon Eastern time on Fox TV. Maryland barely missed the

(32:18):
top twenty five this week. The best of five division
series all start tomorrow. FS one has the American League
playoffs this year, so tomorrow it'll have Texas at Baltimore
than Minnesota at Houston. In fact, both Saturday and Sunday.
That'll start at one pm Eastern time Saturday and at
four pm Eastern time on Sunday. The Rangers are a
five seed this year. They just missed out on winning

(32:40):
their division, but they did get two victories at Tampa
Bay this week, eliminating the Rays, who had been locked
in as a four seed since Baltimore won the AL
East Division. For the Orioles, by the way, closer Felix
Bautista is out after Tommy John surgery. Last year, Sy
Young winner Sandy l Contre of the Marlins will miss
next season after Tommy John surgery. Today. Joey Vado says

(33:02):
he wants to play at least one more year. He's forty.
Vado batted two oh two this season and two oh
five last year, career batting average close to three hundred.
The Texas Rangers say pitcher Max Scherzer, with the strange shoulder,
is a long shot to start in the next week,
although he did throw to hitters at practice today. Gymnast
Simone Biles won the all round title at the World Championships.

(33:23):
She is now the most decorated gymnast in history, thirty
four total medals between the Olympics and Worlds, including twenty
one gold. She qualified for all four event finals this
weekend as well. In Belgium. Detroit Lyons wide receiver i'm
and Ross Saint Brown doubtful for this weekend with an
abdominal injury. Raiders quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo cleared concussion protocol. He

(33:46):
will play Monday night when Vegas won and three hosts
the Packers. For Green Bay, running back Aaron Jones and
wide receiver Christian Watson still limited in practice due to
hamstring injuries. Packers all pro tackled David Baktiari is out
for the year. He needs that's another knee surgery. Vegas
star wide receiver DeVante Adams did not practice again due
to a shoulder injury. The Broncos are trading linebacker Randy

(34:08):
Gregory to San Francisco. The Bears traded wide receiver Chase
Claypool to Miami. Steelers quarterback Kenny Pikett is off the
injury report, so he'll start this weekend after a brus
knee practiced fully again today. Pittsburgh host Baltimore Ravens wide
receiver Odell Beckham says he expects to play Sunday. He's
listed his questionable with an ankle injury. Baltimore is three

(34:29):
and one. Back to you.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Thank you very much, Steve, I appreciate it. My friend
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
Live Thetirack dot Com Studios coming up next. So Chase
Claypool got traded, says much more about the Dolphins state
of mind. But there was a transaction today that could
change the NFL season.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
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Speaker 1 (34:49):
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Speaker 2 (34:52):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 4 (35:00):
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Speaker 2 (35:07):
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Speaker 4 (35:22):
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Speaker 1 (35:38):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon live from the tire rack dot Com studios.
And we saw Chase Claypool get traded. We watch Jimmy
Garoppolo get a clean bill of health. He's going to
get to throw interceptions, throw the football for the Raiders
on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
But Whyday Night Football. We'll get to mock that live
and yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
That's gonna be fun.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, Tom, Well only have DeVante Adams. We'll find out
game time.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, well maybe Devanta Adams will wind up trading him
before the game. Oh but you want to look at
a move that means a lot for the NFL that
kind of went under the radar. Cooper Cup is likely
gonna play Sunday for the Rams. Ramsaid coach Sean McVay
said today that barring any setback, Cooper Cup is gonna

(36:30):
get to play. And look the video out there today
of him at practice looks awesome. He's ready to play.
And right now the conversation is not the right one
that's being had. It's boy, hey, can Cup come in?
And does this mean less balls for Niakua who's turned
into an unbelievable player early on in the season. What's
it gonna be? Fantasy wise? People are missing the conversation. Man,

(36:53):
Cooper Cup, before he got hurt, was the best receiver
in the NFL and as long as he is healthy,
way to see what happens on Sunday with the Rams
and the Eagles, because the Rams are gonna beat Philadelphia
and suddenly we're gonna have to make room that maybe
the Rams need to be in the elite conversation. Because
these weapons that Matthew Stafford has are phenomenal. You can

(37:16):
already see he's got the chemistry with nikoua and two too.
At Well, right, at Well is gonna at Well's like
a Deebo Samuel type player. And Niku is the guy
that's gonna catch fifteen passes a game in the slot.
Oh but what about Cooper cut No, Cooper Cup wines
up on the outside a lot too. He's gonna be
just fine. The chemistry that Stafford already has with Cup,

(37:37):
with what he's got for these other two receivers this year,
watch out for how this offense rolls. I mean, I
mean we're not ready because the Rams didn't look good
coming into the season. We didn't know what kind of
playmakers I had to start in two unknowns a wide receiver,
well's it gonna go for them? Really? Well? What about
at running back? Is cam Akers really gonna be a no?
But look what happens over the last couple of weeks

(37:58):
they saw their running back situation. Williams plays almost on
every down. Reggie Rivers is not bad, right to back up,
but you see Williams plays in almost every down, and
the way this offense is going to be able to
throw the football. If they put pressure on Stafford, he'll
get rid of the ball quick to Nakua or or
Cooper Cup. If they try to play up, it's gonna

(38:19):
be over the top to two two at while they
take advantage of his speed. This Rams offense is going
to explode. And I mean on Monday, after they beat
the Eagles, we're going to talk about, Hey, maybe the
Rams are really really good and they're figuring it out
now because these three receivers, watch out. Good luck trying
to defend him, because nobody has the depth of defensive

(38:39):
back to cover all three of these guys. And Stafford
it's not like he's got to worry about working guys in. No, no, no,
He's worked with Cup, He's worked with the two of them.
Watch what happens.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, I'll be honest, in through four weeks of the season,
I'll already say I'm wrong of the preseason projections. Right,
we put on our sheet in mind, you might as
well just burn it at this point with the Rams
coming in, a lot of questions of what they were
putting together in cups injury, and we don't know like
what the long term is, but at least through the

(39:10):
videos of working out and then going through the cone
drills or whatever, it's like, all right, looks like he's
moving without any kind of hitch, any issue. We'll see
it in game speed. But you add Tyler Higbee to
all of what you just add, you know, rolled out
for that offense, and mcveigh's got plenty of things to
pull the strings. So suddenly they're pretty interesting in an

(39:31):
NFC that only has at this point the forty nine
ers that we say are heavyweights. The Eagles they're rolling
at four and oh they're not complete yet, right, the
passing game still has worked it. We don't know what
the Cowboys are. So you're all of a sudden at
a point where it's like, all right, let's raise our
eyebrow because suddenly you might have yourself a playoff team

(39:51):
if they can stay healthy. And Kyron Williams is that guy.
Long term, I'm intrigued.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Watch for the Rams and and this is Sean mcvay's
credit be able to build a team this way and
have them suddenly go from Eh, maybe it's gonna be
a while to rebuild. Note we're doing it. Glad we
bullied him back into the coaching box. Well, we got
him here, so you know, maybe we.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Didn't get him here the show. We wanted to see
the rest of it.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah. Exit, how about a Fresca exit swollen Dome The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike carbon Rams
are gonna win and look out the way. Yeah I know,
I know me too. Eric Dickerson will get us the ringst'
worry about okay, get him't worry about it. Uh. Coming
up next, we'll preview the game of the week in
the NFL. And no, it ain't gonna be cow Boys Niners.

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