October 10, 2023 • 33 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon debate if Bill Belichick is trying to lose these games on purpose. The Dodgers are now on the brink of elimination after dropping Game 2 of the NLDS 4-2. Plus, Jimmy G and Jordan Love must prove themselves as long-term answers for their respective teams.
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the curtain for you here on the show, just for
a second here, Yeah, So our side of the glass.
Final MLB game of the night, Dodgers trying to not
go down to zip against the Diamondbacks. As the Diamondbacks
bat in the top of the ninth inning four to two,
they have the lead. Everything else is over. So in
the other room, ty Shirt and Frostburg while they're watching
this game, are also watching Cocaine Bear for the first time.
(01:14):
And well, he's scored more runs than the Dodgers. He did,
he's doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yes, it is certainly does have the the register flowing.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Cocaine Bear much more dangerous than the top of the
Dodgers order that that is for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
He's gotten on based too.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And uh and and it's funny like sometimes when when
when ty Shirt watches a movie for the first time,
it's kind of it's kind of like the I don't know,
it's it's it's kind of like seeing uh, you know,
seeing a butterfly be born. Like, oh, it's like, hey,
this is based on a real story. And I said, yeah,
real story. Bear got into a lot and killed many people.
(01:49):
Wait what really? Yeah, you saw at the beginning, got
a big deal. Yeah, theilers, no spoilers, got the only
the only part of that, Troy, there was really true,
ty Shirt was in the beginning was the beginning with
the guy for you?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Sure, Yes, I remember having to explain that the movie
Ghost in the Darkness was based on real events.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I love the Ghost, I hated the Darkness.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Though, like you have some of those like that can't
be real lions that kept coming, No, that can't be. No, No,
I didn't it was I thought that movie was just
outtakes from Romancing the Stone, and they just they didn't
use for Michael Douglass. They put him in that the
Ghost in the dark and then they add an extra
song from Billy Ocean into it. That's what they call
the Jets offense, by the way, the Ghost in the darkness,
the ghost.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Now you scored thirty one, yesterd did we scored the
Broncos just doesn't matter, you know what, That's gonna help
the scoring average, right, We're not doing it to the
Dolphins when we're trying to look at their season overall.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
They scored seventy points in the game against the Brons.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Dolphins already hit their objective for the year, scored the
most scrimmage yards and through five games that in the
other team that can hang it up.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
That was one of the greatest responses in a press
conference and re memory McDaniel earlier with that.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like, yeah, and we can go home now. It's exactly
what we were looking for. Great there it is all right,
Jet's Jets Jet's Jets. Now, I'm going to celebrate today.
Then tomorrow we get into why Zach Wilson still has
to go. But tonight that's Jet's Jet's judge. No sure,
victory Monday.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Man, it's you imagine if the Jets had cocaine bear
and hey, I'm imagining if the Jets.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
No no, no, no no, at this point, you want him
as your blocker with that kind of ferocity. Come on,
you're you're clear and running lanes for days.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
That's only about our timeuntil Breeze Hall goes out.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, it's no, buddy, it's just stop stop with that.
Did you see how long it took to sink in stop?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, that took a couple of seconds.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
S Wow you okay, Well that was a delayed reaction.
Well you know why, because I'm thinking and then oh,
I got to stop that from getting out there, universe. Stop,
I can stop, I can stop from getting out I'm
stopping it. It's kind of Carlin esque.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Tell them to.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Jet chet. But you know, I hate to say we
told you so. I'm gonna go back to July with
something we said that. Now. Hey, people in the media
are saying, I think Bill Belichick might get fired. I
think Bill Belichick. I think this is it for him.
We told you in July, and I have the tweet
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we told you in July that this was going to
be a blank show for the Patriots. It's a bad roster.
It's Bill Belichick his way. Whatever he was trying to accomplish.
However he was trying to win. Post Tom Brady is
not working. And you can be the greatest coach in
the world. If you don't have the players, you're not
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gonna win. And it was gonna be a blank show.
And Belichick was coaching for his life, his coaching life
with New England because if it was bad, he's not
coming back next year. And this is his last year
in New England. How dah where are we right now?
Of course, they beat the Jets because they always beat
the Jets every other week loss, and the losses are
getting worse and worse, especially when you look at yesterday
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when the Saints dominated them from kickoff till the end.
And now suddenly other people in the media Belichick might
get fired. Belichick's gonna be about We told you in July.
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, Loueen July talking about it after week one head
of the curve. Two, you're welcome head of the curve.
And the larger point, at least my argument back in
July was the conversation should really have been about Bill
Belichick and these splitting of duties to where you don't
get to be GM anymore because you're clearly not good
at it.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You may be able to evaluate a guy once he's
on a roster, how does he fit best into what
we're doing, But you're also letting guys go. I mean,
look at Jacoby Myers tonight. You chose Juju Smith, Schuster
and these other guys over Jacoby Myers, who form in
many circumstances, not just from as a pass catcher, but
he did all the little things that you loved, right,
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all the little things that made those receiving corps with
Tom Brady, those guys that you could argue overachieved whatever
that was part of what they did. And Myers was
that guy who would block on the edge, who would
be downfield looking to see, you know, and kept working.
And you let that guy go with institutional knowledge and
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maybe you just just decided from a cash perspective, you
want to match that.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
But that's just foolhardy.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
If you've got a guy that fits and does everything,
and he's got a good rapport with Matt Jones, why
do you get rid of that because he was the
only guy that did.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you said, Okay, we don't want
to spend here. He's gonna be two years and sixteen
million is gonna be too much money. So we're gonna
place him with somebody else who's not even is not
even can't Kenny get on there? And then you bring
in a guy who from reports his knee could explode
and Anny point and he's been ineffective altogether. I'm good.
I'm gonna say something absolutely crazy. Let's go. But I'm
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gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna lead you up to that
this is good. Make sure you eat it out. I
look crazier the better. What have we told you the
longest time post Tom Brady, Belichick wanted to win his
way with no stars, and I want to show you
that I'm the real genius behind this team. Well, what
have we seen? He hasn't drafted, well, he's gone. He
shied away from getting stars, and maybe part of it
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is well, when Brady was there, what you had to
go through because New England wasn't a fun place. Everybody
knew that, but you would sacrifice that for winning. When
Brady was there, you could get the odd star here
and there to say, hey, I want to come here
and make it work. And when they would go get
Randy Moss, Hey, look, he's restarting his career because of Brady.
Wes Welker goes for a nice possession receiver to someone
catching one hundred and twenty passes a year because of Brady.
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But now that Brady has gone, as we said, Brady
covered up a lot of things with the Patriots. The
genius that Bill Belichick was, it's more now the genius
of Tom Brady and what he was able to do
on the field because look at some of the decisions
that he's making. This is where I get to my
crazy thing is that he's not He went out of
his way to spend a lot of money on players
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that no one was going to spend a lot of
money on. Whether it was Agalore Hunter, Henry John hus Smith,
none of these guys. But he spends a lot of
money on no names. And not only does he do that,
but he drafts a quarterback in the first round and
never really puts him in a position to succeed. And
now mac Jones, he mac Jones's ruined. Mac Jones could
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be ruined. He could be ruined. Even though he got
pulled yesterday, He's still the start. There's really nobody else.
Mac Jones is ruined. Stop not to stop. We don't
need it. We don't need Zach Wilson, we don't need
mac Jones in New York. That was justin frostbringing my year.
Voices in your head keep saying it. Yeah, man, the
voices in your head. I don't even think he said,
did he say that? Was staring at him, He said nothing,
(08:44):
He said it myself.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Didn't move.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
He said in my ear, I said.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
He's gonna go to the Jets and stop.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
It's not gonna happen. But now you look at things
and decisions that he makes, whether it is hunting down
twenty four to nothing in the third quarter of the
game yesterday, when they're at the forty yard line of
the Saints, they have a fourth, and they have a
fourth and manageable, and instead of going for it down
three scores, we're gonna punt you're gonna punt? What is that?
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Would you have punted against the Jets? Of course not.
He would have gone for it against the Jets. Anything
I can to beat the Jets, right, But I'm punting here?
Why After the game, he said that was a decision
I thought was best for the team. Down three scores
and your fourth down, or you're on the forty yard line,
you gick U something going. You're not going for the
first down here? Really, you're not doing that. Seeing the
decisions that he has made, and especially when you look
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at what he did yesterday with Matt Jones, and you
also look at Oh, I'm not gonna have an offensive
coordinator or my former defensive coordinator is gonna be my OC.
But I'm not gonna name him that. Oh, so Patricia
get paid for the Lions. What has Belichick ever cared
about another coach getting money? He's never Oh he loves
Patt Patricia that much. I gotta make sure I'm not
gonna do that because if he takes a coordinator job,
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I have to pay him. No, there was none of that.
If I didn't know better, I would say that Belichick
is doing this on purpose, and he's finding like he
wants to lose because he's mad about everything that's gone
on with Brady leaving, with the relationship with Bob Kraft.
He's mad at the fans, he's mad at the players,
and he's trying to lose games because none of it
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makes sense, the decisions that he has made. To go
from a genius to making these decisions the last three years,
how does that happen? I mean, if I didn't know better,
I would say he's trying to lose these games.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
A lot of the last couple of years, you still
saw some level of the offense wasn't good last year.
I'm not going to try to excuse the Patricia era there,
but defensively, you've still been able to make plays. Look,
you had Gonzales that you drafted this year, was playing
really well, and then he gets hurt. Judon gets hurt,
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So you're down two of your best defenders and your
offense no matter what Bill O'Brien does. Yeah, Bill picked
the groceries and they're terrible. Last year I argued he
might have done his best coaching job with the team
that he assembled. He made the most right the old
chicken salad out, you know, kind of thing, But he
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created that situation by the roster he put together, and
the same thing this year, right with Mac Jones, I
don't know how good or bad he is. I don't
think there's you can reasonably assess him, you know, one
hundred percent based on what's on tape.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Has it been good?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
No, obviously you're getting blown out, But how much of
that is him again versus what receivers you've put together.
Ramandre Stevenson, who we thought would at least be a
serviceable running back, he's not been very good in any stretches.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I had a couple of runs here and there, but
no consistency there, and the offensive line struggling and defensively
the thing you put your hat on all these years,
even when you had Gonzales in June on the only
game you played well was against Zach Wilson and the Jets.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Which you always played well against the Jets. Right, He
always in the familiarity.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Right, It's like watching UH number thirty four between Tomlin
and Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Again.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
We know each other's tendencies, we know what we're gonna do,
but yeah, it's a difficult watch. Do you think part
of it is the breakup? Like for this year, Like
he's distraught. I mean, the man was spotted at a
McDonald's after his final press comp.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, maybe he's getting maybe getting mcribb trying to get
a little bit, is it? No, it doesn't come back
till next month. Oh, I don't know. You think they
don't have MiG rib Well they might, they might have.
You know, maybe he walked in for a monster mac Hey,
you got one of those, monster Max. Now if he
ordered that, and we could corroborate that he did that monster,
would he not become your hero after twenty years of
hating him, you're now walking around with a Bill Belichick
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T shirt?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Mike, I think it's photoshopped.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
After getting shut up by the same Why here's.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Monster because Jason wasn't in the background.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Why is Jock?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I mean, really, if I didn't know any That's how
bad Belichick has been. Is that, if I didn't know
any better, saying he just doesn't want anybody to win,
so he's just making these decisions so everybody can be
miserable dark him. That's how bad it is. Is that? Again,
if I didn't know better, I would say he's trying
to lose on purpose because he's just mad at everything,
how Brady and the power play and everything else, because
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every the last three years don't jibe with anything from
the twenty before it, except you know, Brady was there
and then he's not. But still Belichick should still be
able to make good decisions and not decisions that make
you go, is this Josh McDaniel's making this decision? Is
this Brandon Stanley making this decision?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
The decisions it comes down to the roster decisions, the
in game thing that that's a whole other You know,
we'll walk down that road as we go, but you know,
once you're getting buried, you're getting buried. But the whole
roster construction thing, like you figured he'd be good enough
to still coach him to a couple of wins, they
are gonna be very few. They'll be battling the Bears
for two of those top five.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, just think how bad that is. That's how
bad Belichick has been. And you're feeling sorry for Bill Belichick.
I mean, I know I'm not feeling sat looking at
New England in last place in the AFC East for
the first time and like from like, hey, look at this,
but it's like but we told you this was gonna
be it. He was gonna be out in New England.
And I don't think he's gonna retire. I mean, maybe
he's gonna find a way to be out and then
somebody's gonna go coach the Giants next year or somebody else.
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But j just for a day, this is what Yes,
I'm gonna coach and then I'm gonna resign again. But
that's how it looks for Belichick right now. And we
told you in July it was gonna be a blank show.
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Speaker 1 (15:10):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. It is a final at Chavez Ravine
and the one hundred win Dodgers are one game away
from elimination, just like everybody else won one hundred games
this year. They lose the Diamondbacks four to two, second
straight game. The Diamondbacks jump on Dodger pitching in the
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first inning, so they're stealing signs in the first inning.
Oh sorry, is not too soon?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Too soon?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Bobby Miller gets jumped on the Diamondbacks get three in
the first after doing the same thing to Clayton Kershaw
in Game one, and now the Dodgers are a game
away from going home. So there's two big things to
break down from this. One is pretty obvious and one
is much more interesting. The Dodgers aren't hitting, they're not
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pitching either, but you're talking about Mookie Bets and Freddie
Freeman at the top of the lineup. The guys, and
two of the guys are gonna finish two, one, two,
and three in MVP voting, right Because Ronald Lecuoney is
probably gonna win. Mookie Bets and Freddie Freeman in the
first two games are combined one four to thirteen. Freddie
Freeman had one hit tonight. Mookie Bets is oh for
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the last two games. And these are the guys that
did everything in setting the table for the three four
five hitters throughout the season. Right every game, Mooki would
do something, Freddie would do something. He'd a double every
game Freddie Freeman. So that's the easy part is that, hey,
you hit these first two games, your best two hitters
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have one hit in thirteen at bats, you're not gonna
win too many games.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
No, And they both had chances to do some damage
in the fifth inning and both failed.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Gallon strikes out Freddy Freeman on a curve looking where
he threw them three curves in a row, and still
Freddie Freeman doesn't pull the tricks.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
That ends the inning. You got first and third right,
yet first and second. Bets comes up, hits a chopper,
a week chopper that you get the force out at second,
So you got runners on the corner for Freeman. Freeman
who hit three ninety seven. Yeah, with runners in the
scoring position and two outs this year, which is just absurd.
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And then he stood there with the bat on his shoulder.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And gallants screaming as he comes off the after striking out.
Freddy Freeman looks like that was a that was the
biggest moment in the game, because now you're looking at
Freddy Freeman base hit or basses loaded. But the Dodgers
put some runners on, but they couldn't they couldn't hit.
That's the easy part. You can blame the Dodger pitching
and say, well, yes they didn't go out, Yes they
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they don't have the starting pitching. But nobody really has
a starting pitching, right, nobody does. It's not like the Dodger.
Nobody really has a starting pitching. Nobody anticipated having to
send away your number two starter because he was now
being accused of vile things. Right, you thought you might
have been getting Walker Bueller back, you thought yet, but
it didn't work. He thought you had a trade for
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Rodriguez and that was going to be your big addition
at the deadline, and he didn't want to He didn't
want to come to La. So that's the stuff you
can see and say, Okay, I get it. They're not
hitting the pitching they came in but nobody has great pitching.
But this is what I see with the Dodgers. That
what I'm seeing with him now that's so different from
the regular season is that this Dodgers team had that
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sense of togetherness. They had that sense of we're all
in it together, We're all in it with each other.
Every time it hit, what happened, they were dancing doing
the hula Freddie Freeman on second base. You would see
that all the time, and they had a great vibe.
And the playoffs, now, the first two games they played in,
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there's four or five times where Dave Roberts went to
the mound to take a picture out and we saw
it with Joe Kelly a few minutes ago, not happy
when he came out of the game in the eighth inning.
And there's been I mean four or five times where
after a pitcher has come out of the game, the
picture is not happy about it and has no problem
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letting Dave Roberts. Know now, whether they're blaming Dave Roberts
or not, or they're upset about something else, like I look,
I don't know, but he's made a lot of pitching
changes like he normally has. Gradarol came in today. He
pitched really well. He comes out of the game. Dodger
fans were booing whit only throwing what twenty three pitches
at that point. And he's someone coming in that you
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didn't expect to have to bring him in, but you
got to bring him in because Miller comes out of
the game after fifty pitches, and nobody seems to be
happy with what's going on.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Except for Bob costas Bob cost exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
You know what was really great is I didn't have
to hear his Sanctimoni's He's.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Still telling his story. The game's been over now for tennut,
He's still telling a story. And then in nineteen eighty eight,
when it happened you could see the lights on Gibson's
home run on the cars that are all breaking. Was
he standing there, you know, like with some book in
his hand, way at wagging his finger.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He needs to go back to nineteen eighty eight. That
guy's the worst.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
But but the Dodgers, they don't seem to be in
a great headspace right now. That's what I'm getting. Freddie
Freeman is thousand yards stare on the field. You can
tell how frustrated he is. They're not in a great headspace.
You have pictures that seem to be upset, not afraid
with letting Dave Roberts know. And there's just no blood,
Like there's like the Dodgers are always a team. We're
gonna show you blood and sweat and everything else. And
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I'm not getting that the first couple of games. There's
something going on that's that's that's got this pall over
the Dodgers, whether it is we don't like the games,
being micromanage pitching, guys come in and out, always changing
pit whatever it is. Pitchers aren't happy the hitters. The
hitters are having trouble and they're they're not the same
loose bunch. And I thought coming into this playoff would
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be a great thing for them to not be the
overwhelming favorites because hey, we come and loose and play
our game and see what happens. And instead it's it's
kind of gone the opposite, where they look tight and
they they're unaggressive and they're playing like all the pressure
is still on them. But I mean, I go back
to seeing how the pitchers are reacting being taken out
of the games, and it's much more animated, much more upset,
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and we've seen this before from Dave Roberts, but much
more animated upset than they've ever been. They're not in
a great headspace and something is going on, and we'll
find out. I'm sure we'll find out at some point
because someone's gonna Hey, source Dodger Pitcher's not happy with usage,
not happy with coming out. There's something going on because
this is not the same Dodger team. Just two games
have shown you we are a much different ballkle than
we were just three days ago.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Oh, you win one hundred games during the regular season.
And while he had to be a puppeteer quite a bit,
pulling strings, it seemed to work right, all the young
players coming into their roles, and you got a lot
of innings from rookies and second year guys out of necessity, right,
Dustin may not there, Bueller you mentioned, wasn't there, Orias
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had to be sent away, all of these things. You
bring in lance Lynn and now he's got play stopper, right,
he's got to play innings eater in in win or
go home time, which is not what they envisioned bringing
him in. But you go through two starts and you
get to combine two innings out of Kershaw and Miller.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
A combined two innings out of your starters.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Now we could argue about whether they should have been
inverted and Miller should have been Game one gift.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
I've heard a lot of people complaining about the days
off and everything else. The only thing that should matter
for is us as fans waiting for the next round
of playoffs to begin. Players, I mean your jobs to
get ready and right. Not every day can be the
you know, the be all to end all to where
every man is is, you know, bouncing off the walls
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to get out on the field to play, but you
come out flat. You had opportunities to get back in
the game in each of these games, where yeah, the
start from Kershaw was awful, but you had innings, You
had opportunities. You did nothing with them. You talk about
the two superstars, and with Mookie Bets, we talked about
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things you were worried about going into the round. Right,
talked about the Orioles, where are they on the brink
of elimination? I talked about the Dodgers and the fact
that Mookie Bets in the month of September hit barely
better than you and I sitting here at the desk,
and that's carried over now into the postseason. So you're
getting nothing out of the two guys you were banking
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on to at least be the stabilizers in your lineup right.
You got a couple of hits from will Smith in
Game one. Martinez had the big opposite field home run today.
But the guys you're counting on with ducks on the
pond to at least get them on, get them over,
get them in, give you a puncher's chance to get
back in the game. That fifth inning was everything. Those
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two at bats the week chopper from Bets followed by
Freeman watching strike three sail over the middle of the plate.
I mean, that was absolutely frozen. That wasn't a hey,
that thing, you know, looped around like he used to
do playing whiffle ball and stuff. Where it could you know,
you just had to hit the the masking tape outline
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on the wall and depending how big big they made it,
maybe the pitch actually came behind you. No, this was
straight down the middle and he stood there and watched it.
So you got a lot going. And to your point
about the pitching staff, and the body language. Joe Kelly's
the first guy I go to in the in the
post game, I'm going straight to his locker because the
look on his face as he walked off that was
(24:31):
everything right. That that set it all right there, because
he pitched well and graderol when he left the mound right,
only twenty three pitches. And now he's not a guy
that you're expecting to go three or four innings whatever,
But at that point he'd got you two innings stabilize
things on twenty three pitches, twelve of them for strikes.
(24:52):
So taking him out at that moment is like you're
gonna let You should have leveraged him at least, you know,
armchair quarterbacking managing over here. It's like you' and Jim
as far as he can go right and try to
save those arms.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I know.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
You got the fortuitous Sunday off right the odd hey,
we're not gonna play opposite the NFL decision that was
made for the National League. So you got that day
off thinking you were resetting your pen. Guess what didn't work.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
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Speaker 1 (25:25):
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Speaker 3 (25:39):
The name of the song. What else can he say?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Okay, no, you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I didn't know you're right. But remember when he sang
this at the Super Bowl at a age. Remember when
Phil saw it all and he's could have stopped the
other guy from drowning, and he saw him at the concert.
Remember that one time guys Breese Hall was good. Is
this because the Diamondbacks have purple and we're celebrating their way? Yeah,
(26:04):
we're doing all right.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Sure, get the hell out of here.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I gotta a breeze all pretty fast. So we'll have
more on the Dodgers shockingly down two zip to the Diamondbacks.
You'll hear from Dave Roberts coming up the less than
fifteen minutes. Who, as we told you, Dodgers' body language awful, pictures,
seem upset every time they're coming out of the game.
It's not they they do not look like they're in
(26:29):
a good headspace right now. You hear from Dave Roberts,
and we'll have more from the other big stories in
the NFL coming off a Sunday gup more and the
on the Broncos. We have more on Mario Cristobal. But
let's take a look back right now at the Raiders
Packers game, which was a game. That's what I could say.
It was a game. It was Monday night and it
was close.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Well, you hit the under it's all you Vegas sportsbooks, breath, breathe,
the Cyghber leave. When Jacoby Meyers scored that touchdown and
not DeVante Adams, yeah, a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Of Packer fans hit yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And while Raider fans said, oh, he's gonna get back
on his old team, revenge game and he didn't score.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It wasn't a great game. And it ends with a
turnover with Jordan Love throwing a pick on the final
possession the Packers have the defense on that is still curious. Yeah,
you know, got away with a little bit of a
push off, but still a pick is a pick. And
the other Raiders Neil had the football at Meryl Crystobaal
to win the game. But my big takeaway from this
(27:30):
game is I look at both of these quarterbacks and
I say, all right, Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't know what
to say about the guy. There was a play in
the third quarter where they ran a flea flicker and
he decides to throw the ball ten yards downfield across
the middle of Jakobe Myers, who he looked at exclusively
(27:52):
for the first half plus and he throws into triple
coverage and he's lucky it's incomplete. Then he discovers Davante
Adams on a touchdown drive. Davante caught one ball all night,
then caught two passes on a drive and that was it.
And I'm saying, so wait, so did it take two
and a half quarters and they stopped guarding Devonte Adams.
I this Raiders offense has been less than stellar with
(28:17):
him at quarterback. And I maintain what I said earlier
this year and in the preseason, Aid and O'Connell's gonna
wind up starting half the games this year because there's
no reason to play Bobby Hoyer and Jimmy Garoppolo is
not effective. I can't believe there were teams that were
going crazy for Garoppolo, but he has trouble staying healthy.
He's not great when he does throw the football. O'Connell
(28:40):
is someone that's got a little something something to him,
and we saw it a couple of weeks ago when
he had to play. Now is great now? Is he
a completed product? No, But he moved the team better
than Garoppolo did. They struggled tonight. They wouldn't trust Jimmy
Garoppolo to throw the football late in the fourth quarter
when they were running the ball just okay. They were
running it awesome, but they were running it just okay.
And on third and six thirty seven, we're running the football,
(29:01):
whether it's Jacob's Rob Dula, we're still running the football.
He's just gonna wind up playing himself to the bench
and and you know what, we'll get to Jordan Love
in a second. But nothing that's happened. Even though they
won tonight, now they're two and three. Nothing has stopped
me from from getting to that point in the mid
season where Garoppolo is gonna be eventually sitting on the
bench watching someone else, likely Aidan O'Connell, play quarterback. I
(29:22):
just keep looking at this squad and it's funny because
you know, our our guy, Robert Guera, who a producer
for for the Odd Couple. He made a reference to
Hunter Renthrow on Twitter. I responded, going, you did more
for him in that tweet than the Raiders have with
the guy who was.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Once a hundred catch player for them. Tonight he had
one catch, seven yards. Two targets again two years ago,
one hundred catches. Now he's just a guy.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
He can't he can't get more than two catches a game,
you know what I mean? Like, there's a guy, No,
he had the concussion last year and he had injury,
is out in the lineup last but he's back.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
He's been with the squad and he is a guy
who is one of your prototypical I mean, go back
to the way New England ran their offense for all
those years. A guy that could sit down in a zone,
a guy that can get you to the sticks, move
the chains, precise route runner, all of those things.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
That kind of comes in a handy with a guy
like Garoppolo.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
You'd think it would be the perfect fit here, right
to give you a guy because you let Waller walk,
and that's fine. As you're trying to figure out you
got the mayor with his big catch right off the jump, right,
they got a big pop for him. He finishes with
two for thirty nine. But you're thinking, all right, he's
gonna start taking out a bigger role. You got two
guys that are sure handed receivers, and you're not using
(30:43):
them at all, like from an offensive standpoint, regardless of
Garoppolo's ability to make the plants like, I'm just not
understanding what you're doing offensively, right, going all the way
back to Josh Jacobs, the guy was the leading rusher
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Last no idea. And that's the thing is they don't
have an identity, right There's they're not setting anything up
to work. Garoppolo's best chances are if you can establish
some semblance of a ground game, so now you can
play action and you know, keep defenses honest and then
find places that get soft in coverage. Just ridiculous. Yeah,
well that was That was at least when he was
(31:19):
with the Niners. They had their identity. It was we
run the football, we played great defense, Jimmy makes the
clutch plays, right, That's what it was. Now it's I
don't know, is it Josh Jacobs. It's not like it's not.
He saw a lot more in mere abduels. Is it
DeVante Adams, It's not. Is the identity team really, Jacoby Myers?
I mean serious, because he's he's their best receiver and
targets still pay seven catches. Now, DeVonta Adams obviously he
(31:41):
was coming up towards game time. There was questions of
whether he'd play. But because it's the Packers, yeah, and
Monday night football, you give it to the old college try.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Should he be out there? I don't know, I don't.
I can't speak for the man where he is physically.
But Jacoby Myers, again going back to that earlier Patriots discussion,
it's a pretty damn good receiver.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, I mean, this is watching the Raiders is even
though they won, it's like we just happen to be
fortunate enough to play a team that is struggling more
than we all. Yeah, you know, and and that's we'll
get to Jordan Love coming up in a few minutes.
But that that's kind of what it was with the Raiders, Like,
yeah they won, well, boy, the Packers were terrible out
waking out. They can't run the football, they can't throw
(32:22):
the football. Jordan Love is making bad decisions. That's why
you win. It's not it's not a feel good wa
it's a win. Okay, so we won, that's fine. The
coach almost tried to give it away with a bad
fourth down gamble, and and our quarterback was bad. We
couldn't trust him to throw the football. But we still win.
To get okay, well, you win, and it wins a
winning the NFL. But nothing is stopping this destiny for
the Raiders. By week nine, Aiden O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Show, Hey, guys, yo, ta Renfro's defense. He had a
great year for the Reds.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
He did. You know, I thought he was. I thought
he was past his prime. He did. He did have
a good year for the Reds. It was a good
year Cincinnati. I can't but he's gonna be a guy
that gets traded at the deadline and all of a
sudden turns into Wes Welk or wherever he goes Will
he's catching nine passes a week now.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Or he goes to the Jets, and yeah, his career goes.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I beg We're Hunter Renfro on the Jets. I just
like it. See how about it, let's just circle back.
You give us Hunter Renfro. I'll give you Mchole Hardman,
who now is inactive for games. How about that. Yeah,
let's do that. I like that.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I like the deflection move for Osburdge doing. You're not
talking about the Dodgers, Jets, Jets. Uh so we'll get
into the level of concern for Jordan.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Love, which is really really high. And you are from
Dave Roberts. Coming up next right here, Jason and Mike
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the curtain for you here on the show, just for
a second here, Yeah, So our side of the glass.
Final MLB game of the night, Dodgers trying to not
go down to zip against the Diamondbacks. As the Diamondbacks
bat in the top of the ninth inning four to two,
they have the lead. Everything else is over. So in
the other room, ty Shirt and Frostburg while they're watching
this game, are also watching Cocaine Bear for the first time.
(01:14):
And well, he's scored more runs than the Dodgers. He did,
he's doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yes, it is certainly does have the the register flowing.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Cocaine Bear much more dangerous than the top of the
Dodgers order that that is for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
He's gotten on based too.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And uh and and it's funny like sometimes when when
when ty Shirt watches a movie for the first time,
it's kind of it's kind of like the I don't know,
it's it's it's kind of like seeing uh, you know,
seeing a butterfly be born. Like, oh, it's like, hey,
this is based on a real story. And I said, yeah,
real story. Bear got into a lot and killed many people.
(01:49):
Wait what really? Yeah, you saw at the beginning, got
a big deal. Yeah, theilers, no spoilers, got the only
the only part of that, Troy, there was really true,
ty Shirt was in the beginning was the beginning with
the guy for you?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Sure, Yes, I remember having to explain that the movie
Ghost in the Darkness was based on real events.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I love the Ghost, I hated the Darkness.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Though, like you have some of those like that can't
be real lions that kept coming, No, that can't be. No, No,
I didn't it was I thought that movie was just
outtakes from Romancing the Stone, and they just they didn't
use for Michael Douglass. They put him in that the
Ghost in the dark and then they add an extra
song from Billy Ocean into it. That's what they call
the Jets offense, by the way, the Ghost in the darkness,
the ghost.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Now you scored thirty one, yesterd did we scored the
Broncos just doesn't matter, you know what, That's gonna help
the scoring average, right, We're not doing it to the
Dolphins when we're trying to look at their season overall.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
They scored seventy points in the game against the Brons.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Dolphins already hit their objective for the year, scored the
most scrimmage yards and through five games that in the
other team that can hang it up.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
That was one of the greatest responses in a press
conference and re memory McDaniel earlier with that.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like, yeah, and we can go home now. It's exactly
what we were looking for. Great there it is all right,
Jet's Jets Jet's Jets. Now, I'm going to celebrate today.
Then tomorrow we get into why Zach Wilson still has
to go. But tonight that's Jet's Jet's judge. No sure,
victory Monday.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Man, it's you imagine if the Jets had cocaine bear
and hey, I'm imagining if the Jets.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
No no, no, no no, at this point, you want him
as your blocker with that kind of ferocity. Come on,
you're you're clear and running lanes for days.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
That's only about our timeuntil Breeze Hall goes out.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, it's no, buddy, it's just stop stop with that.
Did you see how long it took to sink in stop?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, that took a couple of seconds.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
S Wow you okay, Well that was a delayed reaction.
Well you know why, because I'm thinking and then oh,
I got to stop that from getting out there, universe. Stop,
I can stop, I can stop from getting out I'm
stopping it. It's kind of Carlin esque.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Tell them to.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Jet chet. But you know, I hate to say we
told you so. I'm gonna go back to July with
something we said that. Now. Hey, people in the media
are saying, I think Bill Belichick might get fired. I
think Bill Belichick. I think this is it for him.
We told you in July, and I have the tweet
(04:27):
we told you in July that this was going to
be a blank show for the Patriots. It's a bad roster.
It's Bill Belichick his way. Whatever he was trying to accomplish.
However he was trying to win. Post Tom Brady is
not working. And you can be the greatest coach in
the world. If you don't have the players, you're not
(04:48):
gonna win. And it was gonna be a blank show.
And Belichick was coaching for his life, his coaching life
with New England because if it was bad, he's not
coming back next year. And this is his last year
in New England. How dah where are we right now?
Of course, they beat the Jets because they always beat
the Jets every other week loss, and the losses are
getting worse and worse, especially when you look at yesterday
(05:10):
when the Saints dominated them from kickoff till the end.
And now suddenly other people in the media Belichick might
get fired. Belichick's gonna be about We told you in July.
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, Loueen July talking about it after week one head
of the curve. Two, you're welcome head of the curve.
And the larger point, at least my argument back in
July was the conversation should really have been about Bill
Belichick and these splitting of duties to where you don't
get to be GM anymore because you're clearly not good
at it.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You may be able to evaluate a guy once he's
on a roster, how does he fit best into what
we're doing, But you're also letting guys go. I mean,
look at Jacoby Myers tonight. You chose Juju Smith, Schuster
and these other guys over Jacoby Myers, who form in
many circumstances, not just from as a pass catcher, but
he did all the little things that you loved, right,
(06:02):
all the little things that made those receiving corps with
Tom Brady, those guys that you could argue overachieved whatever
that was part of what they did. And Myers was
that guy who would block on the edge, who would
be downfield looking to see, you know, and kept working.
And you let that guy go with institutional knowledge and
(06:24):
maybe you just just decided from a cash perspective, you
want to match that.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
But that's just foolhardy.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
If you've got a guy that fits and does everything,
and he's got a good rapport with Matt Jones, why
do you get rid of that because he was the
only guy that did.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you said, Okay, we don't want
to spend here. He's gonna be two years and sixteen
million is gonna be too much money. So we're gonna
place him with somebody else who's not even is not
even can't Kenny get on there? And then you bring
in a guy who from reports his knee could explode
and Anny point and he's been ineffective altogether. I'm good.
I'm gonna say something absolutely crazy. Let's go. But I'm
(06:56):
gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna lead you up to that
this is good. Make sure you eat it out. I
look crazier the better. What have we told you the
longest time post Tom Brady, Belichick wanted to win his
way with no stars, and I want to show you
that I'm the real genius behind this team. Well, what
have we seen? He hasn't drafted, well, he's gone. He
shied away from getting stars, and maybe part of it
(07:19):
is well, when Brady was there, what you had to
go through because New England wasn't a fun place. Everybody
knew that, but you would sacrifice that for winning. When
Brady was there, you could get the odd star here
and there to say, hey, I want to come here
and make it work. And when they would go get
Randy Moss, Hey, look, he's restarting his career because of Brady.
Wes Welker goes for a nice possession receiver to someone
catching one hundred and twenty passes a year because of Brady.
(07:42):
But now that Brady has gone, as we said, Brady
covered up a lot of things with the Patriots. The
genius that Bill Belichick was, it's more now the genius
of Tom Brady and what he was able to do
on the field because look at some of the decisions
that he's making. This is where I get to my
crazy thing is that he's not He went out of
his way to spend a lot of money on players
(08:02):
that no one was going to spend a lot of
money on. Whether it was Agalore Hunter, Henry John hus Smith,
none of these guys. But he spends a lot of
money on no names. And not only does he do that,
but he drafts a quarterback in the first round and
never really puts him in a position to succeed. And
now mac Jones, he mac Jones's ruined. Mac Jones could
(08:22):
be ruined. He could be ruined. Even though he got
pulled yesterday, He's still the start. There's really nobody else.
Mac Jones is ruined. Stop not to stop. We don't
need it. We don't need Zach Wilson, we don't need
mac Jones in New York. That was justin frostbringing my year.
Voices in your head keep saying it. Yeah, man, the
voices in your head. I don't even think he said,
did he say that? Was staring at him, He said nothing,
(08:44):
He said it myself.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Didn't move.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
He said in my ear, I said.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
He's gonna go to the Jets and stop.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
It's not gonna happen. But now you look at things
and decisions that he makes, whether it is hunting down
twenty four to nothing in the third quarter of the
game yesterday, when they're at the forty yard line of
the Saints, they have a fourth, and they have a
fourth and manageable, and instead of going for it down
three scores, we're gonna punt you're gonna punt? What is that?
(09:11):
Would you have punted against the Jets? Of course not.
He would have gone for it against the Jets. Anything
I can to beat the Jets, right, But I'm punting here?
Why After the game, he said that was a decision
I thought was best for the team. Down three scores
and your fourth down, or you're on the forty yard line,
you gick U something going. You're not going for the
first down here? Really, you're not doing that. Seeing the
decisions that he has made, and especially when you look
(09:33):
at what he did yesterday with Matt Jones, and you
also look at Oh, I'm not gonna have an offensive
coordinator or my former defensive coordinator is gonna be my OC.
But I'm not gonna name him that. Oh, so Patricia
get paid for the Lions. What has Belichick ever cared
about another coach getting money? He's never Oh he loves
Patt Patricia that much. I gotta make sure I'm not
gonna do that because if he takes a coordinator job,
(09:53):
I have to pay him. No, there was none of that.
If I didn't know better, I would say that Belichick
is doing this on purpose, and he's finding like he
wants to lose because he's mad about everything that's gone
on with Brady leaving, with the relationship with Bob Kraft.
He's mad at the fans, he's mad at the players,
and he's trying to lose games because none of it
(10:16):
makes sense, the decisions that he has made. To go
from a genius to making these decisions the last three years,
how does that happen? I mean, if I didn't know better,
I would say he's trying to lose these games.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
A lot of the last couple of years, you still
saw some level of the offense wasn't good last year.
I'm not going to try to excuse the Patricia era there,
but defensively, you've still been able to make plays. Look,
you had Gonzales that you drafted this year, was playing
really well, and then he gets hurt. Judon gets hurt,
(10:51):
So you're down two of your best defenders and your
offense no matter what Bill O'Brien does. Yeah, Bill picked
the groceries and they're terrible. Last year I argued he
might have done his best coaching job with the team
that he assembled. He made the most right the old
chicken salad out, you know, kind of thing, But he
(11:12):
created that situation by the roster he put together, and
the same thing this year, right with Mac Jones, I
don't know how good or bad he is. I don't
think there's you can reasonably assess him, you know, one
hundred percent based on what's on tape.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Has it been good?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
No, obviously you're getting blown out, But how much of
that is him again versus what receivers you've put together.
Ramandre Stevenson, who we thought would at least be a
serviceable running back, he's not been very good in any stretches.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I had a couple of runs here and there, but
no consistency there, and the offensive line struggling and defensively
the thing you put your hat on all these years,
even when you had Gonzales in June on the only
game you played well was against Zach Wilson and the Jets.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Which you always played well against the Jets. Right, He
always in the familiarity.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Right, It's like watching UH number thirty four between Tomlin
and Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Again.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
We know each other's tendencies, we know what we're gonna do,
but yeah, it's a difficult watch. Do you think part
of it is the breakup? Like for this year, Like
he's distraught. I mean, the man was spotted at a
McDonald's after his final press comp.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, maybe he's getting maybe getting mcribb trying to get
a little bit, is it? No, it doesn't come back
till next month. Oh, I don't know. You think they
don't have MiG rib Well they might, they might have.
You know, maybe he walked in for a monster mac Hey,
you got one of those, monster Max. Now if he
ordered that, and we could corroborate that he did that monster,
would he not become your hero after twenty years of
hating him, you're now walking around with a Bill Belichick
(12:47):
T shirt?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Mike, I think it's photoshopped.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
After getting shut up by the same Why here's.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Monster because Jason wasn't in the background.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Why is Jock?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I mean, really, if I didn't know any That's how
bad Belichick has been. Is that, if I didn't know
any better, saying he just doesn't want anybody to win,
so he's just making these decisions so everybody can be
miserable dark him. That's how bad it is. Is that? Again,
if I didn't know better, I would say he's trying
to lose on purpose because he's just mad at everything,
how Brady and the power play and everything else, because
(13:21):
every the last three years don't jibe with anything from
the twenty before it, except you know, Brady was there
and then he's not. But still Belichick should still be
able to make good decisions and not decisions that make
you go, is this Josh McDaniel's making this decision? Is
this Brandon Stanley making this decision?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
The decisions it comes down to the roster decisions, the
in game thing that that's a whole other You know,
we'll walk down that road as we go, but you know,
once you're getting buried, you're getting buried. But the whole
roster construction thing, like you figured he'd be good enough
to still coach him to a couple of wins, they
are gonna be very few. They'll be battling the Bears
for two of those top five.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, just think how bad that is. That's how
bad Belichick has been. And you're feeling sorry for Bill Belichick.
I mean, I know I'm not feeling sat looking at
New England in last place in the AFC East for
the first time and like from like, hey, look at this,
but it's like but we told you this was gonna
be it. He was gonna be out in New England.
And I don't think he's gonna retire. I mean, maybe
he's gonna find a way to be out and then
somebody's gonna go coach the Giants next year or somebody else.
(14:23):
But j just for a day, this is what Yes,
I'm gonna coach and then I'm gonna resign again. But
that's how it looks for Belichick right now. And we
told you in July it was gonna be a blank show.
And that's all the Patriots have been so good. Tilt
Twitter and out about a Fresca. Mike gets swollen down
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon Dodgers'
last licks in the bottom of the ninth nobody out,
(14:43):
nobody on as they try to not go down. Two
games and none. We'll have more on this game and
a Big Bowl prediction for one star quarterback who's probably
gonna be sitting on the bench sometime in the next
few weeks. Snaxt right here Jason and Mike Fox be.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
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Speaker 1 (15:10):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. It is a final at Chavez Ravine
and the one hundred win Dodgers are one game away
from elimination, just like everybody else won one hundred games
this year. They lose the Diamondbacks four to two, second
straight game. The Diamondbacks jump on Dodger pitching in the
(15:31):
first inning, so they're stealing signs in the first inning.
Oh sorry, is not too soon?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Too soon?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Bobby Miller gets jumped on the Diamondbacks get three in
the first after doing the same thing to Clayton Kershaw
in Game one, and now the Dodgers are a game
away from going home. So there's two big things to
break down from this. One is pretty obvious and one
is much more interesting. The Dodgers aren't hitting, they're not
(15:58):
pitching either, but you're talking about Mookie Bets and Freddie
Freeman at the top of the lineup. The guys, and
two of the guys are gonna finish two, one, two,
and three in MVP voting, right Because Ronald Lecuoney is
probably gonna win. Mookie Bets and Freddie Freeman in the
first two games are combined one four to thirteen. Freddie
Freeman had one hit tonight. Mookie Bets is oh for
(16:21):
the last two games. And these are the guys that
did everything in setting the table for the three four
five hitters throughout the season. Right every game, Mooki would
do something, Freddie would do something. He'd a double every
game Freddie Freeman. So that's the easy part is that, hey,
you hit these first two games, your best two hitters
(16:41):
have one hit in thirteen at bats, you're not gonna
win too many games.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
No, And they both had chances to do some damage
in the fifth inning and both failed.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Gallon strikes out Freddy Freeman on a curve looking where
he threw them three curves in a row, and still
Freddie Freeman doesn't pull the tricks.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
That ends the inning. You got first and third right,
yet first and second. Bets comes up, hits a chopper,
a week chopper that you get the force out at second,
So you got runners on the corner for Freeman. Freeman
who hit three ninety seven. Yeah, with runners in the
scoring position and two outs this year, which is just absurd.
(17:18):
And then he stood there with the bat on his shoulder.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And gallants screaming as he comes off the after striking out.
Freddy Freeman looks like that was a that was the
biggest moment in the game, because now you're looking at
Freddy Freeman base hit or basses loaded. But the Dodgers
put some runners on, but they couldn't they couldn't hit.
That's the easy part. You can blame the Dodger pitching
and say, well, yes they didn't go out, Yes they
(17:43):
they don't have the starting pitching. But nobody really has
a starting pitching, right, nobody does. It's not like the Dodger.
Nobody really has a starting pitching. Nobody anticipated having to
send away your number two starter because he was now
being accused of vile things. Right, you thought you might
have been getting Walker Bueller back, you thought yet, but
it didn't work. He thought you had a trade for
(18:04):
Rodriguez and that was going to be your big addition
at the deadline, and he didn't want to He didn't
want to come to La. So that's the stuff you
can see and say, Okay, I get it. They're not
hitting the pitching they came in but nobody has great pitching.
But this is what I see with the Dodgers. That
what I'm seeing with him now that's so different from
the regular season is that this Dodgers team had that
(18:27):
sense of togetherness. They had that sense of we're all
in it together, We're all in it with each other.
Every time it hit, what happened, they were dancing doing
the hula Freddie Freeman on second base. You would see
that all the time, and they had a great vibe.
And the playoffs, now, the first two games they played in,
(18:48):
there's four or five times where Dave Roberts went to
the mound to take a picture out and we saw
it with Joe Kelly a few minutes ago, not happy
when he came out of the game in the eighth inning.
And there's been I mean four or five times where
after a pitcher has come out of the game, the
picture is not happy about it and has no problem
(19:11):
letting Dave Roberts. Know now, whether they're blaming Dave Roberts
or not, or they're upset about something else, like I look,
I don't know, but he's made a lot of pitching
changes like he normally has. Gradarol came in today. He
pitched really well. He comes out of the game. Dodger
fans were booing whit only throwing what twenty three pitches
at that point. And he's someone coming in that you
(19:31):
didn't expect to have to bring him in, but you
got to bring him in because Miller comes out of
the game after fifty pitches, and nobody seems to be
happy with what's going on.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Except for Bob costas Bob cost exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
You know what was really great is I didn't have
to hear his Sanctimoni's He's.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Still telling his story. The game's been over now for tennut,
He's still telling a story. And then in nineteen eighty eight,
when it happened you could see the lights on Gibson's
home run on the cars that are all breaking. Was
he standing there, you know, like with some book in
his hand, way at wagging his finger.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He needs to go back to nineteen eighty eight. That
guy's the worst.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
But but the Dodgers, they don't seem to be in
a great headspace right now. That's what I'm getting. Freddie
Freeman is thousand yards stare on the field. You can
tell how frustrated he is. They're not in a great headspace.
You have pictures that seem to be upset, not afraid
with letting Dave Roberts know. And there's just no blood,
Like there's like the Dodgers are always a team. We're
gonna show you blood and sweat and everything else. And
(20:26):
I'm not getting that the first couple of games. There's
something going on that's that's that's got this pall over
the Dodgers, whether it is we don't like the games,
being micromanage pitching, guys come in and out, always changing
pit whatever it is. Pitchers aren't happy the hitters. The
hitters are having trouble and they're they're not the same
loose bunch. And I thought coming into this playoff would
(20:49):
be a great thing for them to not be the
overwhelming favorites because hey, we come and loose and play
our game and see what happens. And instead it's it's
kind of gone the opposite, where they look tight and
they they're unaggressive and they're playing like all the pressure
is still on them. But I mean, I go back
to seeing how the pitchers are reacting being taken out
of the games, and it's much more animated, much more upset,
(21:12):
and we've seen this before from Dave Roberts, but much
more animated upset than they've ever been. They're not in
a great headspace and something is going on, and we'll
find out. I'm sure we'll find out at some point
because someone's gonna Hey, source Dodger Pitcher's not happy with usage,
not happy with coming out. There's something going on because
this is not the same Dodger team. Just two games
have shown you we are a much different ballkle than
we were just three days ago.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Oh, you win one hundred games during the regular season.
And while he had to be a puppeteer quite a bit,
pulling strings, it seemed to work right, all the young
players coming into their roles, and you got a lot
of innings from rookies and second year guys out of necessity, right,
Dustin may not there, Bueller you mentioned, wasn't there, Orias
(21:54):
had to be sent away, all of these things. You
bring in lance Lynn and now he's got play stopper, right,
he's got to play innings eater in in win or
go home time, which is not what they envisioned bringing
him in. But you go through two starts and you
get to combine two innings out of Kershaw and Miller.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
A combined two innings out of your starters.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Now we could argue about whether they should have been
inverted and Miller should have been Game one gift.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
I've heard a lot of people complaining about the days
off and everything else. The only thing that should matter
for is us as fans waiting for the next round
of playoffs to begin. Players, I mean your jobs to
get ready and right. Not every day can be the
you know, the be all to end all to where
every man is is, you know, bouncing off the walls
(22:48):
to get out on the field to play, but you
come out flat. You had opportunities to get back in
the game in each of these games, where yeah, the
start from Kershaw was awful, but you had innings, You
had opportunities. You did nothing with them. You talk about
the two superstars, and with Mookie Bets, we talked about
(23:08):
things you were worried about going into the round. Right,
talked about the Orioles, where are they on the brink
of elimination? I talked about the Dodgers and the fact
that Mookie Bets in the month of September hit barely
better than you and I sitting here at the desk,
and that's carried over now into the postseason. So you're
getting nothing out of the two guys you were banking
(23:28):
on to at least be the stabilizers in your lineup right.
You got a couple of hits from will Smith in
Game one. Martinez had the big opposite field home run today.
But the guys you're counting on with ducks on the
pond to at least get them on, get them over,
get them in, give you a puncher's chance to get
back in the game. That fifth inning was everything. Those
(23:48):
two at bats the week chopper from Bets followed by
Freeman watching strike three sail over the middle of the plate.
I mean, that was absolutely frozen. That wasn't a hey,
that thing, you know, looped around like he used to
do playing whiffle ball and stuff. Where it could you know,
you just had to hit the the masking tape outline
(24:08):
on the wall and depending how big big they made it,
maybe the pitch actually came behind you. No, this was
straight down the middle and he stood there and watched it.
So you got a lot going. And to your point
about the pitching staff, and the body language. Joe Kelly's
the first guy I go to in the in the
post game, I'm going straight to his locker because the
look on his face as he walked off that was
(24:31):
everything right. That that set it all right there, because
he pitched well and graderol when he left the mound right,
only twenty three pitches. And now he's not a guy
that you're expecting to go three or four innings whatever,
But at that point he'd got you two innings stabilize
things on twenty three pitches, twelve of them for strikes.
(24:52):
So taking him out at that moment is like you're
gonna let You should have leveraged him at least, you know,
armchair quarterbacking managing over here. It's like you' and Jim
as far as he can go right and try to
save those arms.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I know.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
You got the fortuitous Sunday off right the odd hey,
we're not gonna play opposite the NFL decision that was
made for the National League. So you got that day
off thinking you were resetting your pen. Guess what didn't work.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
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Speaker 1 (25:25):
Fox Sports Radio. You can't just keep playing. There's other
words than purple rain in the song. Fox Sports Radio,
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
live from the tirerac dot Com studio.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
The name of the song. What else can he say?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Okay, no, you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I didn't know you're right. But remember when he sang
this at the Super Bowl at a age. Remember when
Phil saw it all and he's could have stopped the
other guy from drowning, and he saw him at the concert.
Remember that one time guys Breese Hall was good. Is
this because the Diamondbacks have purple and we're celebrating their way? Yeah,
(26:04):
we're doing all right.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Sure, get the hell out of here.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I gotta a breeze all pretty fast. So we'll have
more on the Dodgers shockingly down two zip to the Diamondbacks.
You'll hear from Dave Roberts coming up the less than
fifteen minutes. Who, as we told you, Dodgers' body language awful, pictures,
seem upset every time they're coming out of the game.
It's not they they do not look like they're in
(26:29):
a good headspace right now. You hear from Dave Roberts,
and we'll have more from the other big stories in
the NFL coming off a Sunday gup more and the
on the Broncos. We have more on Mario Cristobal. But
let's take a look back right now at the Raiders
Packers game, which was a game. That's what I could say.
It was a game. It was Monday night and it
was close.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Well, you hit the under it's all you Vegas sportsbooks, breath, breathe,
the Cyghber leave. When Jacoby Meyers scored that touchdown and
not DeVante Adams, yeah, a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Of Packer fans hit yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And while Raider fans said, oh, he's gonna get back
on his old team, revenge game and he didn't score.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It wasn't a great game. And it ends with a
turnover with Jordan Love throwing a pick on the final
possession the Packers have the defense on that is still curious. Yeah,
you know, got away with a little bit of a
push off, but still a pick is a pick. And
the other Raiders Neil had the football at Meryl Crystobaal
to win the game. But my big takeaway from this
(27:30):
game is I look at both of these quarterbacks and
I say, all right, Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't know what
to say about the guy. There was a play in
the third quarter where they ran a flea flicker and
he decides to throw the ball ten yards downfield across
the middle of Jakobe Myers, who he looked at exclusively
(27:52):
for the first half plus and he throws into triple
coverage and he's lucky it's incomplete. Then he discovers Davante
Adams on a touchdown drive. Davante caught one ball all night,
then caught two passes on a drive and that was it.
And I'm saying, so wait, so did it take two
and a half quarters and they stopped guarding Devonte Adams.
I this Raiders offense has been less than stellar with
(28:17):
him at quarterback. And I maintain what I said earlier
this year and in the preseason, Aid and O'Connell's gonna
wind up starting half the games this year because there's
no reason to play Bobby Hoyer and Jimmy Garoppolo is
not effective. I can't believe there were teams that were
going crazy for Garoppolo, but he has trouble staying healthy.
He's not great when he does throw the football. O'Connell
(28:40):
is someone that's got a little something something to him,
and we saw it a couple of weeks ago when
he had to play. Now is great now? Is he
a completed product? No, But he moved the team better
than Garoppolo did. They struggled tonight. They wouldn't trust Jimmy
Garoppolo to throw the football late in the fourth quarter
when they were running the ball just okay. They were
running it awesome, but they were running it just okay.
And on third and six thirty seven, we're running the football,
(29:01):
whether it's Jacob's Rob Dula, we're still running the football.
He's just gonna wind up playing himself to the bench
and and you know what, we'll get to Jordan Love
in a second. But nothing that's happened. Even though they
won tonight, now they're two and three. Nothing has stopped
me from from getting to that point in the mid
season where Garoppolo is gonna be eventually sitting on the
bench watching someone else, likely Aidan O'Connell, play quarterback. I
(29:22):
just keep looking at this squad and it's funny because
you know, our our guy, Robert Guera, who a producer
for for the Odd Couple. He made a reference to
Hunter Renthrow on Twitter. I responded, going, you did more
for him in that tweet than the Raiders have with
the guy who was.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Once a hundred catch player for them. Tonight he had
one catch, seven yards. Two targets again two years ago,
one hundred catches. Now he's just a guy.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
He can't he can't get more than two catches a game,
you know what I mean? Like, there's a guy, No,
he had the concussion last year and he had injury,
is out in the lineup last but he's back.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
He's been with the squad and he is a guy
who is one of your prototypical I mean, go back
to the way New England ran their offense for all
those years. A guy that could sit down in a zone,
a guy that can get you to the sticks, move
the chains, precise route runner, all of those things.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
That kind of comes in a handy with a guy
like Garoppolo.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
You'd think it would be the perfect fit here, right
to give you a guy because you let Waller walk,
and that's fine. As you're trying to figure out you
got the mayor with his big catch right off the jump, right,
they got a big pop for him. He finishes with
two for thirty nine. But you're thinking, all right, he's
gonna start taking out a bigger role. You got two
guys that are sure handed receivers, and you're not using
(30:43):
them at all, like from an offensive standpoint, regardless of
Garoppolo's ability to make the plants like, I'm just not
understanding what you're doing offensively, right, going all the way
back to Josh Jacobs, the guy was the leading rusher
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Last no idea. And that's the thing is they don't
have an identity, right There's they're not setting anything up
to work. Garoppolo's best chances are if you can establish
some semblance of a ground game, so now you can
play action and you know, keep defenses honest and then
find places that get soft in coverage. Just ridiculous. Yeah,
well that was That was at least when he was
(31:19):
with the Niners. They had their identity. It was we
run the football, we played great defense, Jimmy makes the
clutch plays, right, That's what it was. Now it's I
don't know, is it Josh Jacobs. It's not like it's not.
He saw a lot more in mere abduels. Is it
DeVante Adams, It's not. Is the identity team really, Jacoby Myers?
I mean serious, because he's he's their best receiver and
targets still pay seven catches. Now, DeVonta Adams obviously he
(31:41):
was coming up towards game time. There was questions of
whether he'd play. But because it's the Packers, yeah, and
Monday night football, you give it to the old college try.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Should he be out there? I don't know, I don't.
I can't speak for the man where he is physically.
But Jacoby Myers, again going back to that earlier Patriots discussion,
it's a pretty damn good receiver.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, I mean, this is watching the Raiders is even
though they won, it's like we just happen to be
fortunate enough to play a team that is struggling more
than we all. Yeah, you know, and and that's we'll
get to Jordan Love coming up in a few minutes.
But that that's kind of what it was with the Raiders, Like,
yeah they won, well, boy, the Packers were terrible out
waking out. They can't run the football, they can't throw
(32:22):
the football. Jordan Love is making bad decisions. That's why
you win. It's not it's not a feel good wa
it's a win. Okay, so we won, that's fine. The
coach almost tried to give it away with a bad
fourth down gamble, and and our quarterback was bad. We
couldn't trust him to throw the football. But we still win.
To get okay, well, you win, and it wins a
winning the NFL. But nothing is stopping this destiny for
the Raiders. By week nine, Aiden O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Show, Hey, guys, yo, ta Renfro's defense. He had a
great year for the Reds.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
He did. You know, I thought he was. I thought
he was past his prime. He did. He did have
a good year for the Reds. It was a good
year Cincinnati. I can't but he's gonna be a guy
that gets traded at the deadline and all of a
sudden turns into Wes Welk or wherever he goes Will
he's catching nine passes a week now.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Or he goes to the Jets, and yeah, his career goes.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I beg We're Hunter Renfro on the Jets. I just
like it. See how about it, let's just circle back.
You give us Hunter Renfro. I'll give you Mchole Hardman,
who now is inactive for games. How about that. Yeah,
let's do that. I like that.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I like the deflection move for Osburdge doing. You're not
talking about the Dodgers, Jets, Jets. Uh so we'll get
into the level of concern for Jordan.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Love, which is really really high. And you are from
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