Hour 3 - Jay Glazer

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon talk with Jay Glazer as they discuss the Chiefs vs Broncos game.

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We call one now joining us to break down what
we saw on Thursday night and beyond NFL on Fox
Insider Extraordinary Jay Glazer. You probably saw Jay tonight. He
was next to Taylor Swift the entire game in the suite.
I saw him talking a lot, wearing the Travis Kelcey jersey. Jay,
you looked like you were having a great time.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oh you got the wrong eye on that, fella.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm just gonna keep going putting that out there, Jay,
that you were there and you were next to Taylor
Swift the whole night.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Definitely got the wrong guy on that one. No, no, no,
no no. I don't like big crowds like that. All right.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
So look the game tonight. We watched the Chiefs win again.
But I'll tell you what, Jay, the offense is not
the same. You know, Kelsey finally has a big night.
But I can't believe that there's not a big wide
receiver move for them coming up to the deadline something,
because we've seen enough of the Chiefs right now to
know they need something else, right.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, you look, I think last year, also after the
lost tyre silly, we were talking about kind of the
same thing. I was taking their offense a little bit while,
you know, a little bit longer to you a mess.
I think it's more of an offensive line problem and
it is a wide receiver problem. I think that's Mahomes
will make things happen. By the way, I want to
say this, forget the Teller Swift stuff. The stuff that

(02:13):
Travis Kelce lays through is ridiculous, ridiculous, Like people don't
know last year's AFC Championship game and people thought like
like because they keep their injuries in the house, But
this dude could barely walk before that game because it
was back and basically ran like through routes like in
a tunnel before the game to show Andy Reid and

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their training staff that he's okay. And for that first
game we go down with the knee injury that he
had where they thought at first, I mean they thought
it was a major injury. And for him to come
back after one game and then to see what he
goes through the other night, right, I think even tonight
you saw him, he'd have an art time planting he
could compared to what Travis Kelce normally does. That dude

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played through so much pain. He is such a g
when it comes to like an old school mentality of
what he goes through. Don't let this whole new you know,
say him they're going through like like just way anybody
from knowing what a gangster he is and how tuff
Travis Chelsea is for him to be the leading receiver.

(03:17):
But that kind of ankle injury is ridiculous, all.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Right, let's go to the other side of the equation here, Jay,
how quickly?

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah? Wait the other side? Wait, wait real quick. I
also want to say, like that that Bronco defense to
go from you know, giving up seventy points a couple
weeks ago to holding the Chiefs offense to what they
held him to, they have done an incredible job on
that side of the ball. If you know, you know,
Bronco's out the kind of offense and would it would

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be totally different.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
No, I certainly getting a couple of guys healthy, right,
you got some help in the back seven to get
things moving. And I guess it also plays to that
separation point because you saw Kelsey's reception and came against
zone coverage where they just left eighty seven alone, which
is confusing.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
But they don't have everybody to match up with them regardless,
you know, on that side. But authentially you look at
the Broncos and you're like, man, they're just this is
not meshing at all. Right, I think everybody just assumed, ah,
tem Payton's a little evil genius and Russell Wilson just
have this off here and and look there's the reason
why Seattle got ridden. Also, you know there was there
was there was bad interpersonal relationship there, I would say

(04:28):
between Russell Wilson Seattle. But also they knew his skills
were diminishing. And you saw how often they try to
roll him out tonight. And you know it used to
be letting, rough cook. You don't rough cook and hazing
these days.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
No, how quickly does this get dismantled? We were talking
about benching and operation shutdown quickly?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Quickly? I would think, I mean, why not, Like it's
just it's not working, And you know I do know
off like look do you even have to look at
it and go man, do they pull him and go
to Jared? Did him don't?

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
But it's just you know, ninety five yards I think
he had, right, but how often they that they designed
things for him and he just can't it's just not
messing over there and right, it's just he's not you know,
the Russell Wilson that everybody was clamoring for, you know,
MVP votes just a couple of years ago, and again

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credits to Seattle. They saw the skills diminishing, and they
knew when to get rid of him, and you know,
I think that they would have done it earlier, but
he had no trade clause in the contract, so it
was harder to do.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
You know, watching there's a couple of plays in Night
Jay where I go, that's a play Russell Wilson wouldn't
made a couple of years ago. There was one play
in the third quarter where he was you know, the
Russell Wilson play where I fade back to pass and
there's all kinds of chaos and I try to make
a play out of nothing, and there's a player he
looked like a couple of years ago. He would have
gotten around the defensive end and gotten to the outside,
but he wasn't going to beat the defensive end. Had

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to cut it back to the middle and just take
a two yard loss. And I just go wow. Physically,
I mean it's not just mentally and grasping the offense
and and you're fitting in this door, it's physically he's
not the same.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
And you look at also, there was a couple of
teams that tried to trade for Russell Wilson and he
had no trade clause, and he wouldn't go. And I
know that they are thanking themselves, like like, look, Philadelphia
is one of them. And you know, and he wouldn't
go there. I think, I mean, Chicago was another one,
and you know he wouldn't. You know, they put their

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four teams out that he wanted to go to, and
even that one with Chicago was one of them. They're
going to work out a deal there and then he
said no. So I think that a lot of these
teams and there are other teams too that they talked to.
I'm sure there's a lot of teams looking back there
and oh my gosh, we're glad we didn't make that move.
But listen, I can't blame like Tours Peyton for want
to make that move because at the time you thought

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you're getting this, you know, all pro quarterback who's going
to change your culture. And obviously when he went there
to Denver, he then he just he made it all
about Russ and it certainly didn't work Allison with how
it was their first and look, you got to look
like Roughletting needs to look himself because it's with two
regimes now where they look like you know, I know,

(07:08):
Sean Payton talried about Nathaniel Hackett being the worst coach era,
but it's two regimes out of it they look like
the worst coaching stuff ever.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, I think Peyton did a good job. I said
it at the time, Jay, that he set it up
as no, no, no, it's it's not a not on Russ
yet more or less that when it goes bad, it
can't be me. So I thought he played that brilliantly.
Jay Glazer with us NFL on Fox Broadcasting, Hall of Famer,
founder of MVP and Unbreakable Performance, we'll talk about the

(07:39):
Unbreakable podcast Jay Sunday Night Football. The dismantling of the
Dallas Cowboys at the hands of the San Francisco forty
nine ers trade partners. I saw that we Ceedee Lamb
put up a nice picture of him in Hollywood Brown
from back in the day.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, no, they're not going to you're talking. Wait he
put up trade pressure are like he wanted to go.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Well, he just from the college days as his Twitter banners, So.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
As if he wants to go to the Cardinal No, no.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
No, no, as if he wants to Hollywood Brown come
in his way. Oh okay, how did the Cowboys? Uh?
I mean, look, we saw this step up in class.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Clearly didn't plays have had a few games where they
look like man, they are just dominant to be. They've
got two games where it's just everything, you know, all
the wheels fell off. I think they just got to
find that, make sure they get that identity that was,
you know, on both sides of the ball. So you know, look,
I think against you know, the Chargers, they can get
that they've got of. They bounced that great right that

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that's against after the Arizona game when they went in
in there for New England, I think there's a really
good catt for them that the forty nine ers. It
wasn't just yeah, they don't look at it like, oh man,
they expose all laws. They got to look at it
like the cowboys have to look at themselves going, hey,
this is a bad night for us. There's a bad
day and we just got to put it behind us.

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And you know, every sport, for every you know in
the fight camp, thirst certain night you just have a
bad night where everything goes wrong. You got to hope
that championship night isn't that night, but sometimes it is.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Hey, Jay, at any point though, do you do you
look at the schedule and who they beat and go, hey,
maybe they're just bum slayers and just a step above
I mean the the Jets and the Patriots. Not exactly
a murderer's row.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
No, but look maybe up on who they're supposed to
beat up on that And this is true, but you
can't look at it that way. Like the Chiefs were
supposed to beat up on Denver tonight. They didn't, So
you can't look at it that way.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
All right, Jay, I know you got the newest audition
of your Unbreakable podcast speaking the forty nine ers. You
had a forty nine or on and he told them great,
told you some great stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
He was great man, you know, and also just you know,
he hey and I obviously had great mental health talks,
but also about look, I loved it. He was like, look,
I played for this respect of that guy across from me,
and I love that conversation. So we tell our fighters,
you like, listen, man, don't worry about the wins and losses.
Just go in there and think about it. I'm going
to make the worst afternoon for that guy across from

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me or night when that cage door shut, and then
the results usually come. But if you could take that
ego out and don't look at it, just says man
that I'm fighting a playing for this win. A lot
of times when you just playing for a win, you
play not to lose. I love that Eric was like, Man,
what motivates me is I'm just trying to get that
guy cross me to really respect me for my game

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and what I do that night. And I love that.
I wish more players and fighters would have that mentality
because you'll have a lot more success doing things like
that when you take that ego part out of it.
He's a stud.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
You want that Unbreakable podcast, you can check out the link.
It's on Jay's Twitter page at Jay Glazer. That is
at Jay Laser Unbreakable a mental health podcast with Jay Laser,
Eric Armstead. Phenomenal stuff. Jay is always buddy, Appreciate it, man,
keep fighting.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
The good fight. We'll talk to you. Appreciate God, Appreciate
your man.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
How about Jay saying all of a sudden, Jared stid him.
Maybe Jared, it's not gonna be. It doesn't seem like
it's gonna be long before Jared, Look, we told.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
You, I mean our conversation, but I didn't take him
there and he jumped straight to that.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Look, we said a few minutes, you're gonna have to
go to somebody else, and maybe you do it under
the guys of we an injury or something else. And
Jay is, hey, if Russell Wilson's not playing well, it's
easy to say, right, we got to sit him down.
Maybe he's washed, and Jared Sidham gets a chance, because
we've seen Stidham play well in spurts, and you would
if your quarterback's not firing, maybe the next guy will.

(11:40):
But russ I told you Russell Wilson let less than
two hands number of times he has left a quarterback
the Denver Broncos. In the offseason, he'll be on a
new team. They'll figure out the money that we're gonna
be starting over at quarterback. They'll draft high because they're
gonna trade their guys away to get draft picks that
they need to recoup because of the ones they gave
up for Russell Wilson, and now said it's going to

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be a different team next year. They'll be out from
under all the money they owe Russell Wilson by the
end of next year and then they'll be free and clear.
So what's gonna happen the next few weeks. You're gonna
see Russell Wilson slowly sit down someone else play quarterback,
and then it's gonna be what happens to Russell in
the spring when he does get traded, because he will
get traded. And when it went bad, you cut those

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guys loose man. And that's exactly where we're at with
this look with Russell Wilson. Through the first now six
weeks of the season, we've seen series, we've seen sequences,
and a lot is made. You know, we talk about
quarterback rating, completion percentage, and people can do the blind
read of the box score.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Going back to that Bears game, they were getting hammered
and they're able to watch the Bears throw up on
themselves in grand fashion to give that game away. Now
they went and took it, and that's fine. Different coverages.
You know, we can go through the football ease of
it all, but in the end, in a lot of
meaningful moments, there's just no sizzle there. And tonight you

(13:03):
saw it. You talked about it a lot. With the
bailout and run, you get no separation. And I'm curious
if you go to the All twenty two and what
the quote old heads will have to say about it.
I certainly have already seen Mark Schleeritz thoughts about Jimmy
Judy and his effort tonight is that you know, you

(13:23):
go through and how much are these guys working for us,
and how much of it is on them versus they
just have a liking problem with him and the structure
that was created last year. No amount of coaching from
Peyton and the guys on his staff is able to
coach that and coax that out of those guys. You've got,

(13:44):
you know, a locker room problem, and we've talked about
it with Baltimore and the Chargers from the idea of
physical things that just haven't been able to get away from.
Right the injury bug is still there and Denver, clearly
you still have a large disconnect between your quarterback, his
receivers and that coaching staff.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
By Thanksgiving now maybe sooner it's gonna be something maybe
By would say, maybe Halloween is the over under for
Russell Wilson not being the quarterback of the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
And you know, not to try to connect dots and
put words in Jay's mouth. Peyton's a guy that j
knows really well. Yeah yeah, Jared said Jared sit So
so the fact that that kind of came out all right, Twitter,
get that? What Jo will twitter at?

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Speaker 2 (15:09):
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Speaker 1 (15:35):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon livetheti rag dot com Studios, where we
watched the Chiefs potentially send Russell Wilson to the bench
and the eliminate the Braves with a three to one

(15:56):
victory three home runs off of Spencer Stryder. Are you
gonna be okay to that loss by the brain?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah, I'll be okay. And I did. Look every every round, an.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Nle's team gets eliminated. So now we're down to one. Okay,
Angel gets his win. That's exact how it works. Now
we're down to one NL's team.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
So okay.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Now, so I got three other teams. Now I got
three teams I could, But did you enjoy the divisional
divisional round? I did enjoy the divisional round?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Square?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I did like that D square D square D square
plus D squared equals d to the fourth pound. The
Phillies win, And I'm now going to play GM and
tell you exactly how every team should approach the season
in Major League Baseball basically from now on. Okay, last
night you watched the Dodgers get knocked up by the Diamondbacks.
They lose in three. Tonight, the Braves lose, They lose

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in four. The Dodgers built one hundred win team. They
are a team that took a bit of a step
back this year that then spending They're probably waiting for
the offseason to spend more money. But they realized that, Okay,
well we spent all that money for one hundred and
ten wins two years ago didn't get us to the
World Series. We'll spend a little bit less, win one

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hundred games, not make it to the World Series. Okay,
we're out. The Braves say, well, wait a minute. We're
gonna build our team a different way. We're gonna sign
all our guys, to our young guys, to big contracts
where it's kind of big, but we can afford them
and have a five year window to win the World Series.
So you have the two biggest and best teams in baseball.

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The Dodgers, who take turns bringing guys out or take turns,
but they combine bringing young prospects up with spending money
traditional way, the way it should be done in Major
League Baseball. One hundred wins, no World Series. The Braves
we're gonna do it differently. You're gonna do it new
We're gonna give our guys money before their due, so
we're giving them more money for the first couple of years,
but then it works out for us on the back end.

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Ronald Lacunia's ten year, one hundred million dollar deal. These
are two completely different ways to build a team. Neither
of these teams went to the World Series. Instead, we're
gonna have an eighty four win team in the NLCS
and the Diamondbacks and the Phillies another team in where hey,
second year in a row, we're in as a wildcard.
We're built for October. Teams need to go into every

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Major League Baseball season thinking this, because now there's been
enough data over a couple of years to see that, well,
winning one hundred games doesn't get you anything. Now, maybe
you can win, maybe you're good enough to win, maybe
not right like the Astros still win, but this year
they won ninety games, but last year they were one
hundred games out. Maybe they're but but.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
They they went through the middle of the season with
some pretty major injuries to where you gave up some
games that you know, at normal strength. Let's face it,
you're you're running rough shot, but you've.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Seen that going all out to win the division and
win one hundred games is no longer really feasible in
Major League Baseball. You're looking for what's gonna bring salaries down.
It's gonna be every team seeing what just happened to
the Braves and the Dodgers and saying, this is what
we need to do. You want to make sure that
every offseason you build a five hundred team, right and

(19:01):
this works for teams like the Pirates and the Royals
because you can easily go from you know, sixty five wins,
maybe we can build a team that wins twenty. We're
a five hundred ish team. You should be able to
which is great for baseball. You need to build a
five hundred ish team in the offseason, and then at
the deadline, if you're having a good enough year, that's
when you make your moves to bring in what you
need to get onto the playoffs and jump start and

(19:22):
get into the playoffs and win the World Series. Because
it doesn't make sense to build one hundred win t Okay,
one hundred wins and we go through the season, we
spend all this money and all this and we get
to the first round and we're out. Build a team.
You don't need to spend a ton of money. You
build a five hundred ish team and that's all you need. Look, Diamondbacks,
all you the Diamondbacks were five hundred all year long.
They finished three games. Oh right, The one all you

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gotta do is to win your last three games of
the year and you finished with a record the Diamondbacks have.
You can be five hundred for four and a half
months and then you win the last couple of games.
Just be a little bit over five hundred. Because we're
never going back to less teams than the playoffs in
Major League Baseball, there's always gonna be much money again,
meaning that you can get in with eighty some odd wins.
There's gonna be two teams who get in every year

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at least with eighty some odd wins. Now, you build
that five hundred team. Maybe you're a great team, right,
maybe you're gonna win one hundred games, but you're gonna but.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Don't build to go crazy. Build to be a five
hundred team. And that way, when you get to the deadline,
as long as your team is good, hey, you're the
buyers and you buy what you need for the rest
of the season to win, and if that doesn't work, hey,
those guys you bought, they can go and free agents
go somewhere and you start over next year. Baseball is
now a year to year thing, right, It's no longer

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we built this team like the bravest thing. We built
this team for five years. Well, guess what, you should
have won the World Series as you had the best
team in baseball. And now you're saying, okay, two years
after we've locked into all these guys, we have zero
World Series. You won three years ago. Hey, Acunu was out, great,
but now you're expecting to get one or two more.
This was a year to have it and you don't
have it. The teams need to build year to you,

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just like the NBA.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Forget about oh we got this guy locked in for
five to build a year to year five hundred in
the off season, make your move to the deadline. If
you're good, get guys. If you stink, you're trading guys
and you're starting over again every offseason and trying to
get to be a five hundred team by the time
he gets to opening day.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Now I'm trying to see what it would cost me.
Let's see, how do I get thirty copies of Moneyball?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
No, but I have a Rollo printer, and I will
find the business addresses for all of the major league
clubs and I'm gonna send them a nice handwritten note
with a copy of Moneyball. This is what we propose. Sure,
what's he do? He gets on base? Because you're proposing

(21:48):
more or less a version of Moneyball the way you're
making your discussion point, which is why if the video
of this makes the rounds. At one point, I start
cackling to myself because I'm thinking of you writing notes.
Dear mister insert GM's name here. I've watched your club,
and I've analyzed things, and really I think it comes

(22:10):
back to this. And then if you want to send
it via email, then we have a video attachment of
you and your your PowerPoint presentation. You'll have to get
the Royalty free music to play underneath as the bed,
but we'll work on that as we go. I like
the cut of your jib I do, and it goes.

(22:30):
It owes some to the conversation that we keep having
in all sports about the expectation of not quite dynasty,
but that Okay, we didn't get it this year, but
next year they will, and next year is going to
be right. And you go through these seasons, and we
mentioned Houston because they did have pretty significant injuries during

(22:54):
the course of the season. Guess what, those guys came
back healthy for the month of September and now they're
mashing right. Jordan Alvarez missed a lot of time. Now,
you don't want to pitch to him. That's a guy
who should just walk up there and point to first base.
I'm just I'm just giving him the base. I don't
even want to bother. He's seeing the ball so well
right now. Whereas and the guys, the teams other than

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they were eighty four win teams, guess what they all
have in common. Their superstars are actually doing what they're
supposed to do that and we can't I can't underscore
that enough of this, right Because for the Dodgers and
now for the Braves, what did their superstars not do perform?
Ron Lakunda Junior got more run tonight for showing his

(23:38):
disagreement with a strike call that got picked up on
the broadcast, showing his iPad like he had a sign up.
You know that it was that, you know, game day
or big nude kickoff with a giant sign on his team.
He got more on that and more notoriety than anything
he did at the plate or on the field tonight. Right,

(23:59):
he goes thank you for fourteen for the series. So
that's the other thing. Figure out how to make your
regular season heroes heroes in the postseason. Make them all
be Bryce Harbor. But the thing is is that you
need to be able to reset if you don't get
it right. And that's why baseball. Look, the Braves decided
we're locked into this group for the next five or

(24:19):
six years. Well okay, well you know what, as good
as they are with all the All Stars, what if
this group isn't good enough? What if this group is
not a they're not built for October? Right, But you
can also make the decision as a front office that
I mean, they're chips, right, A lot of these guys
made All Star teams. Sure they're gonna be wanted because
they're still under control at a reasonable price. So that's

(24:41):
the other advantage that you have as a front office.
If you decide in your analysis, this guy's not getting
it done. His approach, whatever so you and I'm not
talking about Ronald no, no, no, but but you've got other
players you've done this to or maybe you just say,
you know what in prime time, maybe maybe we overspent
on this. Even it's not costing us a ton, we

(25:02):
can go and because we trust our farm system and
ability to develop players, we can go do it again.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
But yeah, And the point is that you're seeing that
building the long term that doesn't work anymore and building
it's it's being the year to year sport it is
now and especially you seeing it a lot in the
NBA the Less Cup, right because what are the stars
doing right there? Signing guys like Lebron I want one
year in option Kevin, I want to be.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Able to at bit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
But NBA teams don't mind it because okay, they want
to be able to get out of a situation if
it's not working. Right, Okay, well we signed you, but boy,
we're locked into you for five more years and you're
just not working. We got to get rid of you.
Porzingis you know something like that. So the NBA has
become a year a year NBA has become a year
to year thing. Baseball needs to be a year to

(25:50):
year thing as well. And that's why I'm not upset
at a team like the Mets. Just say, yeah, we're
not gonna go crazy spending like we did this left.
We're not gonna give a Justin Verlander forty five million
and Maxure thirty nine million. Okay, are you giving somebody
else you know four years and fifty mils? Okay, that
that's a little bit better. Right, You're gonna see, you're
gonna see less crazy spending and more smart spending to

(26:12):
wear teams. I gotta buy a team that's gonna be
good enough for this year, and if it's not, I
can move on and hit the reset button the offseason.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
That way every year can be.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
It can just be a reset or a reload on
the fly and not a complete Hey, we have to
tear it down. We're gonna wait for our guys to
come up through the system. Nobody's got patience for that anymore,
right for the Padres for twenty years, or gotta wait
for our guys to come up through the system. Come on, man,
these guys are not making it up through the system.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
But that's the way it works. But I mean, look
what happened in Baltimore. Right, you've got all these guys
that came up through the system and it's great and
there now they're assuming they're on a run. It's like
you didn't go get the big fish over the top.
Yeah they guy, they gotta put you over right, You
trust it into a bunch of unknown decide to the
young guys. Guys pitching. Never pitch in the playoffs before

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you know what I mean though, like you had a games,
you had all of this because look, the Dodgers and
the Braves are gonna take most of the shrapnel when
it comes to the hundred win teams that went home,
but the Orioles are the cautionary tale on the other
side of tomorrow may not be what you thought it was. Yeah,
look right, so you got to take advantage when things

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are right, because these guys were all healthy throughout the year.
That doesn't happen either, No, right, oftentimes you're playing without
a couple of year stars either during the season or
guess what, look at the Dodgers. All of a sudden,
there's guys that are not available to you from myriad
circumstances that you were relying on. The big point is,
as I says, building year to year.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Is that as you said, as I said, as I says,
as I say, yo, dumby up, will you? There's many
ways to try to build a team, sure, and it's
an imperfect science. You can build with the prospects and
try to wait for them to all come up, like
the Orioles. You can build with the prospects and pay
them early like the Braves did. You can build with
a combination of prospects and free agents like the Dodgers

(28:03):
have done. And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Right,
there's no tried and true system saying this always works.
Sometimes moneyball works, sometimes moneyball doesn't work. All right, it's
all different ways. It's it's a way. Well when you
have great players and you ignore them, you focus on
the guys that are the low paid guys. But the

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point is is that this is where baseball is is
that it doesn't It doesn't pay anymore to be married
to a big strategy to say this is my vision
long term, I have a five year vision for this team.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
It doesn't work anymore. Well, you normally don't have the
same personnel making the I have a next year, five
year vision.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I have a next year vision and what about that,
then we'll have a vision after this. I have to
be able to adjust with what happens. I have to
be able to make aggressive moves and have to be
able to also move on from them and be able
to say, if it didn't work this year, next year,
my new vision is going to work. And that's that's
the new way of the game. That's the only way
to get you out of a strategy that might not work,

(29:04):
because even strategies at work, they could work one year
but not gonna work the next year. But the one
thing I do know is that if you give yourself
flexibility to say year to year and we can build
a team differently year to you find the best way
to build things year to year, you're gonna be in
it every year and you're gonna find a way to win,
and you're gonna find a way to be relevant. You're
gonna find a way to say, this is our year
to get to the world. We're gonna make them, we're

(29:24):
gonna make the trades we have to with the deadline
to augment what we have. You have to give yourself flexibility,
and when teams buy into one vision now for multiple years,
in baseball. You can't buy that anymore. You could buy
that a long time ago. You can't buy that out now.
It's about flexibility now.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
One vision a really good song by Queen. How does
it feel to know that you divested two heavy contracts
and one of those guys will be part of a
world series?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
As good as I feel is watching Verlander and Schurzer
and Tommy fam in the ALCS.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
That's how good, That's how good. The next level Now
one of them is moving forward. Right now.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I feel good because special delivery Steve to Sager is
gonna tell us what's trending in the wide world of sports.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
Steve O counting down toward Erlander Versus Schuzer. The ALCS
starts Sunday nights on Fox TV Texas at Houston. Schurzer,
with the strange shoulder for the Rangers, was not on
the roster for the divisional round, although he did throw
it to hitters last Friday. Houston's in the LCS for
a seventh straight year. Philadelphia, for a second straight year,

(30:29):
has eliminated Atlanta in the division series. Philly will be
hosting Game one of the NLCS Monday night against the Diamondbacks.
Philadelphia beat Atlanta in Game four tonight by a three
to one final. Nick Castianos with two solo homers last
night he had two solo shots. So this year we
had one hundred wins for three different teams in the
regular season and in the playoffs they win a combined

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one to nine. Also pointed out by Christopher Campco White
Sox producer that in this series for the Atlanta Braves
four games, they only scored eight runs total and allowed
eleven home runs to the Phillies, So the Braves went
facing elimination one in ten in their last eleven such

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playoff games. As for the NFL game, Kansas City now
five and one beat Denver nineteen to eight. And you
guys mentioned earlier the comments from former wide receiver Steve
Smith pregame about Denver White out Jerry Judy. He was
asked about that after the road lost tonight as nine
News Denver and others were talking to Judy in front

(31:33):
of his locker.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Did that not go well?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Or is based on what he said.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
On air on NFL network.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I don't remember that, you know, But like I said,
you know, it was a close game.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
We just got to finish out the end of the game.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
He just doesn't remember that, apparently, Steve.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Smith, you know pirate, Steve, I don't know what you're
talking about. You guy had a pirate and a pirate
and a patch and a pirate at No, I don't
know who you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
I really don't.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
Okay, he well the night four said wide receiver Jerry
Judy did have one thirteen yard reception over the middle.
His other two catches were for one yard combined, and
he had two the targeted on and had no receptions.
Kansas City nineteen to eighth. The final. It was thirteen
to nothing at halftime thanks to a sixty yard field

(32:20):
goal from Harrison Bucker. He had a fifty two yarder
later wound up four for four on his field goal attempts.
Travis Kelcey did play after the ankle injury last week,
had over one hundred yards receiving in the first half,
finished with nine catches for one twenty four. Meanwhile, Russell
Wilson and the loss just ninety five yards, passing one touchdown,
two interceptions, sacked four times. So the Kansas City Chiefs

(32:44):
have now beaten the Broncos sixteen straight times. The record
longest regular season win streak against one opponent is twenty.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Three streets and the Jets. Oh sorry, no, it's back.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
In the nineteen seventies, the Miami Dolphins beat the Bills
twenty straight times. This is sixteen in a row for case.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
And if I'm right, and if I'm right, that string
was broken in a game Joe Ferguson threw like six
touchdowns for the Bills. Really, I think so, that would
be at the end of the decade seven, I think
that it was broken.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
I think he had a six touchdown game for the Bills.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
The Rams lost seventeen in a row to the forty
nine Ers in the nineties. That streak was finally broken
in the late nineties. Broncos are expected to part ways
with linebacker Frank Clark after he agreed to a pay cut.
Clark was out tonight due to illness. The league's trade
deadline as at the end of this month. Denver tight
and Greg Dolcich came off injured reserve and then reinjured
his hamstring. Brown's quarterback Deshaun Watson missed practice again with

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the bad shoulder. Giants quarterback Daniel Jones missed another practice
with a neck injury and quite a college football game
on FS one Tonight, Houston at home wins on a
hail Mary pass on the final play forty one thirty
nine over West Virginia, which had won four straight. Houston's
next game, they'll host Texas a week from Saturday on
Fox TV. That is for this year and this year

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only a conference game in the Big twelve. Houston Cougar's
with their first Big twelve win tonight, forty one thirty
nine on a long pass tipped at the goal line,
forty nine yard TD back to you.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Steve O.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Harmon just looked it up. It was a five touchdown
game from Joe Ferguson.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Wow. Five Kelly had a six touchdown game against Pittsburgh
and then he had two other with five touchdown. Then
Ferguson actually did it twice back when they didn't pass
as much. He was fun. Joe Ferguson, Man, it was tough.
I like Joe had a playoff team around nineteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yep, yeah yeah, beat us beat the Jets and eighty
one in a playoff game. I still don't want to think.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
About beat the Chargers in San Diego.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
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The Jason Smith Show with My best Friend Mike Harmon.
Denver loses, the big selloff will begin. Frank Clark already
someone They're going to part ways with either trade or
release calls, potentially trading Jerry Judy Russell Wilson not gonna
be the quarterback for much longer.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
We go into that, you already got sent Gregory to
the forty nine ers. Yeah, right, so it's working.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
And we'll get into the Judy Steve Smith controversy coming
up in a few minutes, because that is just unbelievably entertaining.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Uh but I'll tell you this, right, Jerry Judy, who was.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Really talented wide receiver coming out of college and and
has shown flashes and glimpses but just hasn't gotten it done.
He's the center of the sports world right now because
he's got the thing with Steve Smith, and he could
be somebody who is a difference maker. Now, I'll tell
you this, being on the trade block, where can Jerry

(36:44):
Judy go very underwhelming tonight in a week where there's
a lot of talk about how bad, how how bad
a player you are, and you come up with a
three for fourteen night. Okay, that's that's gonna that's gonna
that's gonna hurt your value a little bit.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Normally there you're holding up a picture of Keishaw Johnson's book,
Throw Me the Damn Ball.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
When you want to tell people to stop talking bad
about you, usually wide receivers respond with a bigger night
than three for fourteen. But I'll tell you this because
I'll tell you who's going to trade for Jerry Judy,
because it's gonna be Desperation is going to make for
great trade partners because at some point by the deadline,
who's a team that just had a big lesson and

(37:27):
ate a big reality sandwich filled with mayonnaise and Deli
mustard and preshudo and cheese and horse radish and all
kinds of that actually sounds like a pretty good sandwich
that they ate. Was not that type of sandwich sardines
and anchovies, And some might say even a step lower there.

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Who's a team that ate the biggest reality sandwich and
need something else by the deadline that's going to say
and help them prove to themselves we can still be
a super Bowl team. Jerry Judy will end up getting
traded to the Dallas Cowboys. O. The Cowboys are the
most desperate team because, like we talked all week about

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how the Cowboys emotionally are putting are going all in
every week, and you can't do that because when you
lose games, there's nowhere to go. You just had a
lesson at the hands of the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
How do you convince yourselves you're still a great team?
You bring in somebody you didn't have that's going to
bring a new dimension to your offense and suddenly make
your offense even deadlier. And clearly, yes, the Cowboys could
use another weapon. So the best guy that's going to
be available that they can get soon, they can bring
in and Jerry Jones can make a headline. Jerry Judy,
he will be a Dallas Cowboy by the deadline.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Boocket, look at you five games twenty receptions, two hundred
and twenty two yards, yet to find the end zone
and in four of those games fifty two receiving yards
or fewer. Go back to his first appearance on the
seventeenth against Washington three catches, twenty five yards. His season

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high came in the blowout against the Miami Dolphins, when
he went five for eighty one, including a forty six
yard reception in trash time. So we're looking at at
a guy who you know, for all the anger and angst.
Remember when Christian Kirk signed his deal down in Jacksonville
and everybody's been He's never been a thousand yard receiver,

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did more than Jerry Judy as a member of the Cardinals.
So certainly this would get the splash. It has the
flash and the tag. I still like the idea of
what Cede Lamb was putting out on that Twitter banner
with a picture of him in Hollywood Brown. Hollywood Brown
will be interesting. I think that would be an interesting too,
right in theory you brought in Brandon Cooks to be

(39:51):
that guy, he's not that guy. And whether it's just
not communication with Dak because the other thing with Dak
and the Cowboys, Walt was a decided step up in class,
you know. But we're pretty sure that the teams they
curb stomped or bad teams. That offensive line played together
for the first time all year last week in the

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worst possible scenario of hey, let's get our timing.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Right exit out about a Fresco exit. Swellendome, Judy to
the Cowboys book it, But what about Judy and Steve Smith?
Hold on to your hats right here, Fox