The Best Of The Jason Smith Show

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon talk about the Steve Smith vs Jerry Jeudy feud. Plus, Jay Glazer joins the guys to talk Chiefs vs Broncos.

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(00:52):
bottom of the eighth inning, two on one out make
it going to the top of the ninth inning. Iglesias
gets out of the bottom of the eighth inning with
a runner at first, So now the Phillies are two
outs away from making it to the NLCS. I can't tell,
but it does not look like Bryce Harper will be
coming out for the ninth inning to play first base.

(01:13):
He is in the dugout, putting his hat on, he
was putting his ball cap. He was putting his cap on.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
What LaRusso, headman, I.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Really like your car, missus Laruso. So it could be
defensive purposes. It could be the injury to his arm.
But the good news is he is in the dugout.
So the injury that he suffered at the end of
the eighth inning, same arm, same elbow to Tommy John
surgery when Olsen ran by and bumped into his arm
at first base. Again, not a dirty play, just to play.
That happened, and Harper had his arm out when he

(01:44):
should have had it down at his side. It's just
one of those things that happened. But good news is
it looks like Harper is okay, because if he needed
to be examined, you assume he would be out of
the dugout. But Bryce Harper is a tough dude. He
might decide you look at me after the game. I'm
in the dugout with everybody until the game is over.
So right now, what I'm saying is we don't know,
but at least the fact that he is there in

(02:06):
the dugout. Maybe you can say things are okay and
he's moving, and maybe that's just precautionary that he's out
of there.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Trying to find our positivity. As it were. He had
left the field going back into the tunnel, so he's
at least back in whatever the preliminary tests were or
if he needed maybe maybe a little numbing. It got
him right, But we look at the I wanted to
get a picture with We've got four monitors here in

(02:32):
our studio for the you know, pullback a curtain for
a minute, and we had the converge right because you
have Harper leaves with an injury, and we were a
little bit sad because you know, we love our superstars, right,
we want our big time players, particularly as some of
these star laden teams go to the wayside as the

(02:53):
playoffs continue. So Bryce Harper among the biggest, including those
two home runs and the greatest stare down Ever, I'm
still way for the trading card to be released so
I could buy it and then have him sign it.
But you have that, you have this train wreck that
is the Kansas City Chiefs Denver Broncos game now nineteen
to eight Broncos scored after a terrible roughing the passer penalty.

(03:18):
They must have decided to defender got just enough body
weight on Russell Wilson to Paul a.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Little bit, maybe little, But the key was.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
The other monitor had changed into a crying Golden Bachelor.
So I don't know because he was he was facing
the other two monitors, so I don't know if in
that moment he could see what we were seeing, so
he was crying or what.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, we're having TV difficulties here right now in the studios.
What Harmon's trying to say, Harper is in fact going
out on life. There he is, He's going out to
first base. He will be playing the ninth inning. So
looks like Bryce Harper is okay.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, he was just crying like all of America, the
Golden Bachelor will Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
The Golden Bachelor is crying. And then there they're watching
Friday the thirteenth movies, and we have a lot of tea,
a lot going on. There's a lot as long as
I say, hey, leave the football in the baseball game on, yeah,
don't change those TVs. Yes, So we'll have more on
the Braves and the Phillies coming up in a few minutes. Again,

(04:18):
we're getting in the top of the ninth inning. The
Phillies are three outs away from the NLCS. Meanwhile, less
than two minutes left to go. As Mike Harmon said,
Harrison Bucker's fourth field goal of the night. Again, if
you played Patrick Mahomes in fantasy like I did, I'm
sorry for you. So it is a nineteen to eight
lead that the Chiefs have. The Broncos have the ball again,

(04:40):
it's a two or game, and it's been an awful
night offensively for Denver. It's been really, really bad. And
we'll get to more on the Broncos coming up in
a few minutes. But look at the Chiefs, okay, because
this is something that's gonna happen, Because this is not
even though they're gonna win tonight and they're gonna go
on and they're gonna have one loss and they're gonna

(05:02):
be five and one, it's gonna be look at the
Chiefs or wherever we thought they were. They're the champs,
they're not quite the Chiefs. They're struggling a little bit
too much with teams they should be beating much more handily.
Now the Chiefs have had this happen before. I don't
know if it's the Chiefs get bored or hey, look
we beat teams. We put up points for a while

(05:23):
with Patrick Mahomes, and now we get to point where okay,
we're playing this game. We're winning. But so far this year,
the Chiefs offense has not been what it should be.
It is not fired on all cylinders, proving that you
can't just replace wide receivers with different wide receivers every
year and expect the same result. The Chiefs have been
playing well. The Chiefs are really really talented, right we

(05:44):
we know this. Look, they're the defending champs two Super
Bowls the last three years for a reason. But they
just don't look like the Chiefs. They just don't look
like that indomitable, intimidating team that we normally get. Boy,
we got the Chiefs this week. They're gonna score fifty. Honest,
Mahomes be flipping the ball behind his back. That's not
who they are. Their running game has been hit and miss.

(06:05):
Sometimes that Jay Isaia Pacheco looks good, sometimes he doesn't.
But the Chiefs just are not the same right now.
And it's good that Travis Kelcey finally had a good
night with Taylor Swift in attendance again because that poortends
well for them because Kelsey had not had a great
year up until this point. But seeing the Chiefs not

(06:25):
quite being who they are, okay for most of the league, Hey,
that's great. The Chiefs are gettible. Yeah, they're gonna be
gettable for a couple more weeks because I guarantee you
what's gonna happen is the Chiefs are gonna go get
a wide receiver at the deadline, and they're gonna get
a big wide receiver. They're not gonna get Jerry Judy
because Judy, even though he's on the trading block, is
not gonna be dealt within the division. But there's gonna

(06:46):
be other guys out there from teams that are gonna say,
we're starting over, we're paying a wide receiver. Wide receivers
usually position we can get big. There's gonna be guys
out there now. Beginning of the season, would have thought, well,
Mike Evans is gonna be out there because he's unhappy.
But the Bucks are three and one, so they're not
gonna gonna sit tight. Devontadams might want out, but again division,

(07:07):
they're not gonna go there. But the Chiefs are gonna
get somebody big because they have to, because this is
not a Chiefs team playing right now with what they
have that can compete with the best teams in the NFL.
They can't compete with the forty nine ers the way
this team is. They can't. They just can't do it.
They probably can't score with the Dolphins like they're going
to have to do. They're gonna need something and they're
gonna get a big receiver at the deadline. It's gonna

(07:28):
be somebody big coming in and it's gonna be look
the blank out for the Chiefs now and it's gonna
suddenly take their offins to another level because that's really
what they need. Travis Kelcey's been missing a lot of
yak over the course of this season, and that's the
one thing's beginning the catches, but he's just not been
the hey game breaker chunk yardage that Kelsey was expected
to be. Tonight was a different story, but again Broncos

(07:49):
still though nineteen points for the Chiefs tonight, they didn't
They haven't been doing what the Chiefs normally do on offense,
and after seeing this now with a pretty big samples.
Eyes have seen them get through six weeks. All right, now, uh,
it's time to understand. You got to spend the next
three weeks working on something, working on a big deal

(08:09):
to go get a wide receiver and a legitimate number
one wide receiver. Sometimes you can get by, right, you
got by last year at you just SMIs Schuster and
a couple of guys that now it's okay, we're gonna
rev ramp that. We like sky Moore, we like Justin Watson,
we like Canarius Tony. All these guys are just jags
and there's nobody that you have to worry about. And
you can you can clamp down on kells a little bit,

(08:29):
maybe you bracken them a little bit more. But the
Chiefs are gonna have to go get a wide receiver,
and they will and it's gonna completely change the offense
just like that. And people go, great, now the Chiefs
have got it back again. But trust me, they're gonna
do it. They'll do it a deadline. It'll be somebody big.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I mean, it's a good thing that you're not working sidelines.
You just called a lot of receivers Jaggs Jack Well,
you guys are Jacks App Steve Spent I'm ready for
your podcast. Oh, come on, they're all jags.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
They're all jags.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I got no qualm saying it. Uh. The most cue
curious guy for me is in Arizona now. Cede Lamb
changed his Twitter banner yesterday to an old picture of
him with Hollywood Brown. Hollywood Brown's a guy that I
see as a pretty nice chip on the marketplace, right

(09:17):
Arizona scrappy, gutsy, whatever term you want to, and they'll
steal a couple of games, although with James Connor going
down that doesn't bode well for things. But Hollywood Brown
is a guy that should be gettable. We've talked a
little bit in some rumors. Maybe you have a happy
reunions with guys that had been there before. Not that

(09:40):
I see the Jets necessarily sending your guy Nicole Hardman back,
but it's a name that's been bandied about. Juju Smith
Schuster's doing a whole lot of nothing in his current environment.
Perhaps there's a marriage to be made there. You go
to some of the veteran receivers talked about on the

(10:00):
I Watch Flex podcast this week. Right, he's w R
eleven right now in Carolina, Adam feelin he's not a
game breaker, but another guy that can sit down and
become a trusted target to where there's not such variability
in the routes that he's running and his ability to
go and fight for a football like you have with everybody.
And as de Sager pointed out earlier, and certainly they

(10:24):
did a lot on the broadcast, look at the zone
that Travis Kelcey finds himself in and then it's the
convergence wildly of the defensive backs to try to tackle
him before he gets ahead of steam. But you know,
when we're looking at trying to find those other trade chips,
most of the other teams you mentioned Mike Evans specifically, well,

(10:47):
they've gone better than expectations. And right he seems happy. Now.
He's banged up right now, he'd missed a lot of
the practice week. But is he a guy that potentially
if they rattle off three or four laws in a row,
that suddenly becomes imminently available. Sure, but in the interim,
if you're the Chiefs, you're kicking the tires an awful

(11:09):
lot of other secondary and tertiary guys and just praying
that they come to your offense a can pick it
up and be out jag the guys you have on your.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Roster and they'll all take a trade to the chief.
You have to worry about like going do I want
to go to the Jets? Do I want to go?

Speaker 4 (11:25):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I want to go play with my homes. Yeah, I
want to go there. So there will be no shortage
of guys out there. It's just for them. It's the
two guys that are probably the most available are Judy
and Devonte Adams, and they're not going to get dealt
with in division. So there's that. You got to look
to the NFC other teams that can say, ah, we
can move our guy because it's just not gonna happen
the other way around.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, it's just kind of funny, right you start talking
about guys with attitude and professionalism issues, right because all
the glowing reports this week out of Miami about what
a great teammate and the Turbo Jets that Chase Claypool
suddenly has once he gets out of the Chicago world.
Let's see looking at free agents for twenty twenty four.

(12:05):
You can go after DJ Shark's It'll.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Be big it'll be bigger than DJ Shark. He'll be bad.
I would say.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I'm just saying there's there's not in terms of guys
that are you're not tied into long term money.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
See, I don't think see the things.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Though, whether that becomes a considerate I don't.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Know that that's that big a deal for the Chiefs. If
they find their guy, they'll be okay with that, because hey,
I think they realize, all right, we need a guy,
and this whole turnover of wide receivers year to year
to year, all right, maybe that's not the best things.
I think if they find their guy, they'd be okay
with it. It would just be a all right, who's
gonna lose enough games that when we get to the
end of the when we get to the trade deadline, okay,

(12:41):
we can we can move on from there. That's gonna
be the big question. And look in the NFC, Mike
Evans is that guy, because oh, noway the top, we're
gonna give him a new deal. But you're three to one,
you win again this week and you go to four.
Are you really thinking to be making a trade at
the deadline? No, you say, hey, wait, we're not bad now.
Suddenly we're not bad. Hang, honestly, how about you go
trade the Bears for Darnel moone again, star number one receipt,

(13:05):
number one receipt.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
That guy doesn't exist. That's what I'm trying to convince
you of.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
That.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Mike Ethans is the nice pie in the sky. You're
writing his initials into your notebook.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Mike Ethans, Mike, I love m E. Look at that.
I had the sky writing for you. Mike Evans. Don't
you want to get trained to us? Now?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I thought you were saying you loved yourself, like Justin
Bieber saying about.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I wrote the sky for you. That's like in the
old days. Instead, like how they would try to convince
a free agent, Hey, we got the sky Rider ready
to go. Yeah, yeah, it's only one hundred bucks, right, yeah, yeah,
what's he gonna make sure he spells the guy's name.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Right, Just like Welcome Direction where they got in trouble
for flying that mini blimp high for Ryan Reynolds birthday.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh Ax, it out about a FRESC exit swollen down.
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(14:18):
Still some time to go, and it still could be
a team in the AFC. You never know what's gonna
be given up here there, but someone is. They are
going to get somebody big at the deadline. There's no
way they can go into the rest of this season
and not do it. There's there's just no way. There's
no way the Chiefs can say, hey, what we have
because again, six games is a big sample size to have,
right five it's a big Okay, It's not like, well,

(14:40):
after a couple of games, the offense isn't the same,
all right, Mahomes is not the same. Everything is down
for him stat wise, it's down for Kelsey statwise. The
other guys don't even rate. You know, they tried to
make Kadarius Tony happen, and you know they give the
ball six times a game, and you know he drops
three passes. So there's not a lot that can happen
other than going out to get the big star. And

(15:00):
it will happen for the Chiefs. Meanwhile, we haven't been
a breaking news right now to tell you about special delivery.
Steve to Saga has something big from the NLDS. The
Braves put the first two runners on base in the
top of the ninth inning, first and third, and nobody

(15:22):
out and Josh Hater, sorry Matt Stram comes in looking
and throwing very Josh Hater like the hair. The hair
was there though even even the motion is there. I'm
facing Josh Hater. How did the Braves figure out the
top of the ninth inning? There stemo from that point out.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Yeah, walk single and then pop out, flyout and then
a pinch hit a guy that we've never seen play
and he just struck out to end their season. So
the Braves, who won one hundred four games in the
regular season yet again like last year, lose the division
series to Philadelphia, which we'll be hosting Game one of
the NLCS Monday night against Arizona. Night's final is three

(16:01):
to one, the series three games to one. The losing pitcher,
the twenty game winner for the Brave Spencer Strider, allowed
three solo homers. You may have seen Nick Castianos hit
two out last night he had two solo homers Tonight
three one Philadelphia the final, so there.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Was they put two on to start the ninth inning.
Murphy single to write. Ozuna goes to third and then
Kevin Polar pops up. Rosario flies out to left. Grissom
strikes out swinging. Not Marquis Grissom. You think it's not
I'm not Gus Grissom. Okay, just so I'm out of
Grissoms now, I'm really out of Grissoms. Wow, you got Grissom.
I'm out of. But I got two good Grissoms now.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
That's good when you get to CSI, I mean, come on,
that was the show that I could watch every week
with my dad.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
He lovely you watched William Peterson see it's I with
your death. I know how this is gonna end out,
trust me, I know, dad, why because I've seen.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
That he was a good smart ass. That's why it's
and it had Mark Helgenberger go cats.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
It's a formulaic show. We know exactactly how it works. Uh,
this is how it goes down. Vaughan Grissom is your
batter to end the season for the Braves.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
You're reading at is is he not related to to Marquis.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
He's related to Gus Grissom. Actually, if you know, there's
a whole big thing they wrote him into these was
that in the next seasons cyber seventeenth season or eighteenth season,
they wrote him in for so the Braves and all
those wins, just like the Dodgers with all those wins
are out, they lose their divisional series.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
What does literally mean?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Coming up next, we break down all the drama we
had drama in the NFL game that had nothing to
do with the game itself. And Bryce Harper's headed back
to the NLCS. Keep it right here, Jason and Mike Fox,
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. I love this song. At the end

(17:54):
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sixteen nothing, Chiefs over the Broncos. Meanwhile, high drama in Philadelphia.
Craig kimberl bases loaded, Ronald Acunya Junior. You know forty

(18:17):
seventy Ronald Lacunya, and he tags a pitch to the
wall in left center field, but he just missed it.
Problem is that ballpark.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
The outfield is humongous, that's weird, and it's oddly shaped
the walls, like the only degree of difficulty for that
catch was navigating the wall, which you'd think you've played
enough outfield there that you'd kind of have an idea
of how it played.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
It was.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
It was similar to Michael Harris's catch the other night,
which was a nice catch, but it wasn't an unbelievable catch.
It was a running catch at the fence, hey, and
it was and it was a good catch, right. I mean,
Rojas made a really nice play. He ran, he got it.
Inning's over.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
This isn't a I'm scaling the wall like Spider Man.
I'm not. It looked diving whatever. He had plenty of space,
like if he'd really seen it well, could have just
turned and no degree of difficulty. Instead, it's the.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Look at the blame. Could have been a double off
the wall. Instead. It's an F eight and now bottom
of the seventh and the Phillies lead it three to
one over the braves looking for the closer.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Look at me. Disrespected guys as they take plays to
save and wish it was.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
A nice catch. It was a nice catch. It wasn't
an unbelievable exactly. It was a nice catch.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
But it'll go down in folklore. It was a good
as a double basses clearing, double saving catch.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I'm like, okay, it was. It was.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
He had three steps before the.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Play.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
It was a good play. They're lucky it didn't fall.
That's the whole point.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
But I don't think any of the guys, even on
the Phillies, had any idea where he was relative to
the wall, because their reaction was like he'd come up
with some mirror.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
You went over the fence and pulled it back from
Zach Hampbell who had the ball in his glove, and
then he punched him, and he punched Hample in the face.
How far away from that happening someone snatching a home
run from Zach Hampbell and then hitting him. Uh So
we'll have more on this game again. Bottom of the
seventh the Phillies lead the Braves three to one. Meanwhile,
all the drama in Thursday Night Football with the Chiefs

(20:23):
and the Broncos basically happened before the game. Because it's
the fourth quarter. Now the Chiefs are leading at sixteen
and nothing. The Broncos offense has been abysmal all night.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Now there is one piece of drama with this game
because the spread was ten and a half.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, okay, we could get a pat you'd never do.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
So we got that. I don't think there's any life
swift at the game, and we have her Man has
eight catches.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
But the big drama comes to us. Why is Steve
Smith trending? Yes? NFL Network former player Steve Smith went
on his podcast a couple of days ago and criticized
Broncos wide receiver Jerry Judy, who has had the last
few days of being criticized. Mark Schleith, Bronco's Legend Hall
of Famer, criticized Jerry Judy, and Steve Smith went on

(21:06):
his podcast and said that Jerry Judy was a jag,
which is just a guy, right, Okay, comes to guy,
just a guy. So before the game, Steve Smith said
was thinking about how he felt bad about the criticism
of Jerry Judy and he wanted to approach him to
talk to him about it, and it didn't go how
he thought. It was going to go. So here's Steve

(21:28):
Smith explaining how before the game, I tried to go
talk to Jerry Judy and this is what happened. For
a short while ago, Broncos wide receiver Jerry Judy was
walking by and Steve called out to him. He got
a different reaction.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
I called out to him because on my podcast cut
to it, I just talked about guys that maybe have
not showed up in a way or in the manner,
and so they weren't that I've used to describe him
in a past, was a jag. Just they got the guy.
And so when I saw him, he's playing well. I
wanted to say to him face to face, like, hey,

(22:02):
I know I said some things in the past I
probably shouldn't have, and I'm sorry. That's what I wanted
to say to him. His response, Mike, Robb and Bucky
was ninja ninja. Yes, I'm using the word Ninja's I'm
just using the word ninja.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I don't mess with you.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
And it was it was a curse word, and so
I was like all right, and then he repeated it,
so I'll say it again. I'm sorry that I said
you were a jack, just a guy who's an average
wide receiver they used the first round pick on that
isn't doing anything. I hope today that you actually show
up in a way that you haven't showed up in the.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Last couple of years since they draft you.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
So if you ever got a problem with aged eighty nine,
I'm sorry for saying that you're an average wide receiver
that they eventually will move on. And when teams called
me and asking should they trade for you, I will
say no, don't trade for Jerry Judy because he's mentally
unable to handle constructive criticism from people who watch specific

(23:00):
Can he be a wide receiver? He could be a
wide receiver. He's a Tier three. Go back into the studio.
I'm done now, thank you.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
So I'm throwing it back to the studios. Smith was done.
Oh boy, he just murders. Speaking of murders, he just
murders Jerry Judy. Now, I'm pretty sure I know what
he means when he said I'm using the word ninja.
Oh wow, he said, we're all fairly into he. So
Steve Smith goes on to obliterate Jerry Judy, who has

(23:28):
not played well. He's not played like a big first
round pick. He's w R sixty four coming into tonight.
They have a lot of problems on offense to Broncos.
But then Steve Smith felt a little bad about what
he said, so they went back to him again. Sure,
because I'm sure he said, Hey, I just want to
I want to apologize for this and say something. So
this is what he said after he just obliterates Jerry Judy.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
You know, I don't know if Ruth saw Jerry Judy
on that one.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Did you say him to click?

Speaker 6 (23:55):
This is a time for me where when I used
to play, I would engage and I love that. Or
right now, I'm forty four years old, I.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Don't need to have this drama.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
And I also don't need to have any problems on
the sideline for me doing something that will jeopardize not
just me but him.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
And I'll be honest and I have to say it
just like this.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
One of the biggest problems we have in the media,
especially as a young black man, is sometimes black on
black crime.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I'm not gonna participate in that.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
I'm not gonna engage where the national media can see
two young African American men acting like we ain't got
no sense.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
He didn't like what I said. That's fine. I wanted
to talk to him. He didn't like it, show and
move on.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
But I'm one, I'm not gonna lose my job, and two,
I'm not gonna disrespect my family by showing that have
not matured and handle my business the way I should
handle my business. We gotta fight to catch to London.
We got things to do. We ain't got time to
be watching a dude do nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Okay, So why didn't you apologize and talk about it
and say, hey, listen, we have a black on black
crime problem and then went on to criticized duty again
at the end. So it's kind of an apology, but
not at the end. Look, this whole thing is highly entertaining,
highly entertaining because Steve Smith is losing his mind here.
But this is not about race. This is not about

(25:16):
this is you know what this is, Steve Smith. This
is the media. Okay. I didn't invent Hey, I'm gonna
go Jimmy Fallon for almost famous. I didn't invent the
rainy Day. I just have the biggest umbrella. Right, Nobody
invented hot takes being what sells in the media. But
that's what does, right, Hot takes every every athlete, every
person you see getting jobs in the media now the

(25:36):
last five years, what do they do. I gotta have
a hot take, I gotta get clicks, and I gotta
get on awful announcing every day. I gotta make sure
on Awful Announcing they're writing about me. Dan Orlovsky is
obsessing with it, so is Steven A. Smith, so or
all the guys all the time. I gotta say something
because I gotta get on. I gotta get on. Steve
is talking about me, right, yeah, because you're now you're

(25:57):
seeing you're seeing people in the media that are finding ways.
I gotta stay relevant.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Now, maybe some guys just stay relevant by talking about
other people in the media, not even anything they say
about sports. But I'm gonna say this, this is the game.
This is the game. This is what you do. This
is the media. If you can't criticize a receiver and
stay in bounds with it, because all Steve Smith say, hey,
I talked about him being a jag and not being

(26:22):
someone a Tier three wide receiver. That is all fair game, man,
that's it. But if that's too hot for you, don't
be in the media. Don't be in the media because
you can't. You can't. You can't be friends with the
players and be someone who is critical at the same time, Right,
I get it, it's part of the whole. Hey, the
GM can't be buddy buddy with the players. I may
have to trade them that we learn from moneyball. But

(26:43):
if you're in the media, your job is not to
talk to the players. Your job is to tell the
people watching what you think of what goes on. Sometimes
it's good. Sometimes we love what happens with players, love
things that they do, and love the players they are.
Sometimes we say, what is this guy doing? This guy's
terrible for X, Y and Z reasons, And if you
keep it in bounds, meaning you don't get personal, and

(27:05):
you talk about what he is on the field, especially,
I'll listen to what Steve Smith has to say about
a wide receiver considering the guy was a pretty bleeping
good one for the majority of his career. That's all
in bounds. If you can't be part of that. If
this is too tough for you, man, you got to
leave the media. I'm sorry, because this is what it is.
This is how it is. You know, if you can't
roll with the big dogs, stay on the porch. This
is how it is. This is how it goes.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
A big clothing brand back in the day, I think
I might have had a shirt that's bought me.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I had big Dog underwear was really cool.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
See yeah, look, there's a couple of things with this,
right Steve Smith. The reaction Judy gave is exactly what
Steve Smith, the player would have given it. I liked
that he was a little guy that was chippy and
wanted to fight the world, and sometimes he actually went
out into the world and fought a little bit. But
I got to do a fantasy football book years ago,

(27:56):
right before the ubiquitous online access to everything. So it
was the equivalent of a football magazine, and they asked, hey,
we'll get you one image for the cover. Who do
you want? Mike Steve Smith. So the book has a
picture of Steve Smith on it as he was becoming
the breakout guy. But you know, he also recognized an opportunity.

(28:18):
Like there's two things with this is maybe with Judy,
we don't know who the person was or people who
contacted him, because I don't think it was suddenly a
moment of quiet reflection and self actualization and realization walking
on the beach man. I was really too hard on
Jerry Judy, and it's really put a stain on my soul.

(28:41):
I don't buy that. So I want to know who
talked to him, who asked him about it? Whatever, Okay,
But after that it becomes an opportunity. Now I can
be cold blooded. And when he came back for him
a second time, that was the key. Right, you did
it once? Did your drop cool? It goes viral, it's

(29:03):
a moment. Then you decided to go full on. He's
already down, he's musted up. I'm gonna keep hammering him
while they ring the bell, say it stop, stop Simpson's
famous gift. He's already dead. So he circled back. Why
because he knows it. It got a little blood thirsty
of hey, we went viral with the first one because

(29:25):
he knew that by the time he came back to
the second one, because I texted you after seeing it live,
going wow, that was a pretty hefty takedown right there.
And sure enough when he came back and started to
talk about it, gives you a little moment talking about
you know, as he said, black on black crime more,
you know, just back and forth in the media, because

(29:46):
it's been a litany of guys, right Richard Sherman now
going after CD Lamb and everybody wants their pound of flesh.
I somehow survived on pragmatism. If I start throwing hot
take the you know the wheel of hot takey up
and just started granting like an idiot, would I get
an extra zero on my salary? Is that how it works?
Because some of the stuff that passes for quote, information

(30:10):
and content is stuff that people have never watched football
and the drawn up in a Hollywood writers like the
jays of journalism are long gone in this in this arena.
So don't kid.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yourselves exit about a Fresca exit swollen.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Don't.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
This is the media, man, this is the media. If
you can't can't do it, don't get on TV and
say what you need to say. All right, now, let's
find out what's trending from a guy who always says
what he wants to say. Steve Desager. Who oh, by
the way, he hit three home runs off of LANCELN
earlier this season as well. Wow, Yeah, I went.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Under the radar completely unnoticed, and they're not going to
re sign me either.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
By the way, he gave up forty four.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
It's easy to get lost in that number.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Forty four plus four.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
We just had a phenomenal ending in the college football
game on FS one, Houston wins at home on a
hailman pass on the final play forty one thirty nine
over West Virginia. Dana Holgerson beats West Virginia.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
There were a.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Total of on the last nine drives seven touchdowns in
this game, so it wasn't this high scoring for much
of the night. Forty one to thirty nine. Houston the
final tip long pass at the gola one forty nine
yard TD.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
To end it.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
As for the NFL game in progress, about ten and
a half minutes to go at Kansas City Chiefs still
leading sixteen nothing over the Denver Broncos. And for the record,
Kadarius Tony, the wide receiver who threw an incomplete pass
for the Chiefs tonight, he has a higher passer rating
than Russell Wilson in this game, which has no touchdowns,
two interceptions, Wilson just fifty seven yards passing In this game,

(31:46):
Chiefs are in the red zone again, sixteen nothing the lead.
Travis Kelcey yes is playing, Yes is succeeding targeted eight times,
eight catches, one hundred and twenty one yards. In fact,
the great item from the next Gen staff people tonight
that every one of these catches for Kelsey has come
against zone defense, zone coverage for the Broncos. Average, he's

(32:08):
opened by five yards average amount of separation against average
denver on all these catches.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
It's the next iteration because Jason watched it for a decade.
Steve Gronkowski, how is nobody covering him? I was listening
to a little Devin mccorty. He was on the national
radio call. He's like, eighty seven vance, Joseph, I'm texting you,
he's good.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
How do you let him just stand on the line
of scrimmage, run across the field and put his hand up.
I mean, come on, man, come on, tightand is easy.
Tight End's the easiest position to play in the NFL.
All I gotta do is wait two seconds after the snap,
really run across the middle and put my hand up
and I catch the ball.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
And we saw Kelsey could have had a touchdown catch
tonight when he was running. Let's try left, No, let's
try right. I'm open in the back of the enza
and he didn't throw it to him. I think there
are routes. I think there's pract that actually goes on
during the week, but yeah, you sometimes get the impression anyway.
Sixteen oh and Yet looks like the Chiefs are going
to five and one on the season. The Broncos would

(33:10):
be one and five on the season. How about this
looking ahead? In NFL history, at least since nineteen fifty,
the best record for a starting quarterback against a single opponent,
including playoffs is twelve and oh Otto Graham against the Cardinals.
If Patrick Mahomes wins tonight, he will be twelve and
oh all time against the Denver Broncos. And the Broncos

(33:33):
are expected to part ways with linebacker Frank Clark after
he agreed to a pay cut. Clark out tonight due
to illness. Denver tight end Greg Dolcich came off injury reserve,
played tonight and then.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Re injured his hamstring.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Now to MLB action, is there in the top of
the eighth inning, Craig Kimbrel still on the mound and
the Philly is still leading three to one over the Braves,
who left bases loaded last inning. If you didn't see
it was basses loaded because Kimberrel came in and walked
the first batter he saw, and then the very next
pitch he threw a wild pitch and the Atlanta Runners

(34:05):
chose with two outs not to try and advance as
the ball car him back toward the catcher and they
wound up leaving bases loaded.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
This could be it for the.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Brave season tonight they're down two games to one and
the best of five. Atlanta won one hundred four games
in the regular season. The NLCS has game one on
Monday night with Arizona on the road. The ALCS starts
Sunday night on Fox TV Texas at Houston. NHL wins
for the Rangers in Philadelphia each on the road. NFL

(34:33):
updates about nine minutes to go now Chief sixteen to
nothing over Denver. They were in the red zone but
got no points after a penalty.

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(36:05):
one now joining us to break down what we saw
on Thursday Night and beyond NFL on Fox Insider Extraordinary,
Jay Glazer. You probably saw Jay tonight. He was next
to Taylor Swift the entire game in the suite. I
saw him talking a lot, wearing the Travis Kelcey Jersey. Jay,
you looked like you were having a great time.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Oh, you got the wrong eye on that, fella.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I'm just gonna keep going putting that out there, Jay,
that you were there and you were next to Taylor
Swift the whole night.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Oh, definitely got the wrong guy on that one. No, no, no,
no no. I don't like big crowds like that.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
All right. So look the game tonight, we watched the
Chiefs win again. But I'll tell you what, Jay, the
offense is not the same. You know, Kelsey finally has
a big night. But I can't believe that there's not
a big wide receiver move for them coming up to
the deadline something, because we've seen enough of the Chiefs
right now to know they need something else. Right.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, you look, I think last year also Hafter left
Tyree Hill. They we were talking about kind of the
same thing. I was taking their offense a little bit while,
you know, a little bit longer to the jail and mess.
I think it's more of an offensive line problem and
it is a wide receiver problem. I think Pat Mahomes
will make things happen. By the way, I want to
say this, forget the Teller Swift stuff. The stuff that

(37:26):
Travis Kelsey lay through is ridiculous. Ridiculous, Like people don't
know last year's AFC Championship game and people thought like
like because they keep through injuries in the house, but
this dude could barely walk before that game because of
his back and basically ran like through routes like in
a tunnel before the game to show Andy Reid and

(37:47):
their their training staff that he's okay. And for that
first game to go down with the knee injury that
he had where they thought at first, I mean they
thought it was a major injury. And for him to
come back after one game and then what he goes
through the other night, right, I think even tonight you
saw him, you didn't have an art time planting you
could compared to what Travis Kelce normally does. That dude

(38:08):
played through so much pain. He is such a g
when it comes to like an old school mentality of
what he goes through don't let this whole new you know,
saying they're going through like like just way anybody from
knowing what a gangster he is and how tough Travis
Chelsea is for him to be the leading receiver, but

(38:29):
that kind of ankle injury is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
All right, let's go to the other side of the
equation here, Jay, how quickly got it? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Wait the other side? Wait? Wait real quick. I also
want to say, like that that Bronco defense to go
from you know, giving up seventy points a couple of
weeks ago to holding the Chiefs offense to what they
held him to, they have done an incredible job on
that side of the ball. If you know, you know
Bronco's out the kind of offense and would it would

(38:57):
be totally different.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
No, I certainly getting a couple of guys healthy, right,
you got some help in the back seven to get
things moving. And I guess it also plays to that
separation point because you saw Kelsey's receptions and came against
zone coverage where they just left eighty seven alone, which
is confusing.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
But they don't have everybody to match up with them regardless,
you know, on that side. But authentively you look at
the Broncos and you're like, man, they're just this is
not meshing at all. Right, I think everybody just assumed
all tem Payton's a little evil genius Russell Wilson just
have this off here, and look, there's a reason why
Seattle got ridden. Also, you know there was bad interpersonal

(39:40):
relationship there, I would say, between Russell Wilson Seattle. But
also they knew his skills were diminishing. And you saw
how often they try to roll him out tonight. And
you know it used to be letting rough cook. You
don't rough cook and anything these days.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
No, this is true. How quickly does this get dismantled?
We were talking about benching and operations ut down quickly.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Quickly, I would think, I mean, why not, Like it's
just it's not working. And you know, I do know
off like, look, you even have to look at it
and go mad. Did they pull him and go to
Jared Stidham, I don't know, but it's just you know,
ninety five yards I think he had, right, but how
often they that they designed things for him and he

(40:23):
just can't. It's just not messing over there. And most
of the right, it's just he's not you know, the
Russell Wilson that everybody was clamoring for, you know, MVP
votes just a couple of years ago. And again credits
to Seattle. They saw the skills diminishing, and they knew
want to get rid of them. And you know, I
think that they would have done it earlier, but he
had no trade clause in the contract, so it was

(40:45):
harder to do.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
You know, watching there's a couple of plays in Night
Jay where I go, that's a play Russell Wilson wouldn't
made a couple of years ago. There was one play
in the third quarter where he was you know, the
Russell Wilson play where I fade back to pass and
there's all kinds of chaos and I try to make
a play out of nothing, And there's a play he
looked like a couple of years ago. He would have
gotten around the defensive end and gotten to the outside,
but he wasn't going to beat the defensive end. Had

(41:07):
to cut it back to the middle and just take
a two yard loss. And I just go wow. Physically,
I mean it's not just mentally in grasping the offense
and you're fitting in this new it's physically he's not
the same.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
And you look at also, there was a couple of
teams that tried to trade it for Russell Wilson and
he had no trade clause and he wouldn't go. And
I know that they are thanking themselves, like like, look,
Philadelphia is one of them, and you know, and he
wouldn't go there. I think, I mean, Chicago was another one,
and you know he wouldn't. You know, they put their

(41:39):
four teams out that he wanted to go to, and
even that one with Chicago was one of them. They're
going to work out a deal there, and then he
said no. So I think that a lot of these
teams and there are other teams too that they talked to.
I'm sure there's a lot of teams looking back there
and oh my gosh, we're glad we didn't make that move.
But listen, I can't blame like tors Peyton for one
to make that move because at the time, you thought

(41:59):
you're getting this, you know, all pro quarterbacks going to
change your culture. And obviously when he went there to Denver,
he man, he just he made all about Russ and
it certainly didn't work. Dallas since for how it was
their first year and look, you gotta look like rough
Wetting needs to look himself because it's with two regimes
now where they look like you know, I know Sean

(42:21):
Payton talked about Nathaniel Hackett being the horse coach ever,
but it's two regimes out of it they look like
the worst coaching stuff ever.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yeah, I think Peyton did a good job. I said
it at the time, Jay, that he set it up
as no, no, no, it's it's not a note on
Russ yet more or less that when it goes bad,
it can't be me. So I thought he played that brilliantly.
Jay Glazer with us NFL on Fox Broadcasting, Hall of Famer,
founder of MVP and Unbreakable Performance. We'll talk about the

(42:52):
Unbreakable podcast Jay Sunday Night Football, the dismantling of the
Dallas Cowboys at the hands of the same Francisco forty
nine ers. Uh Trade partners. I saw that we Ceedee
Lamb put up a nice picture of him in Hollywood
Brown from back in the day.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Yeah, no, obviously they're not gonna you're talking. Wait, he
put up trade pushure like he wanted to go.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Well, he just from the college days as his Twitter banner.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
So if he wants to go to the Cardinal, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
No, as if he wants to Hollywood Brown, come in
his way.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Oh okay, how how.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Did the Cowboys? Uh? I mean, look, we saw this
step up in class clearly, didn't they place have.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Had a few games where they look like, man, they
are just dominus to be. They've got two games where
it's just everything, you know, all the wheels fell off.
I think they just got to find that, make sure
they get that identity that was, you know, on both
sides of the ball. So you know, look, I think
against you know, the Chargers, they can get that. They've
got to They pounced that great, right, that's that's against

(43:55):
after the Arizona game when they went in in there
for New England. I think there's a really good tests
for them that the forty nine ers. It wasn't just yeah,
they don't look at it like, oh man, they expose
all laws. They got to look at it like the
Cowboys have to look at themselves going, hey, this is
a bad night for us. It was a bad day
and we just got to put it behind us. And

(44:16):
you know, every sport for every you know, in the
fight camp, there a certain night, you just have a
bad night where everything goes wrong. You got to hope
that Championship night isn't that night, but sometimes it is.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Hey, Jay, At any point, though, do you do you
look at the schedule and who they beat and go, hey,
maybe they're just bum slayers and just a step above
I mean the Giants, the Jets, and the Patriots. Not
exactly a murderer's row, No, but.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Look maybe up on who they're supposed to beat up
on them. This is true, but you can't look at
it that way. Like the Chiefs were supposed to beat
up on Denver Knight, they didn't, so you can't look
at it that way.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
All right, Jay, I know you got the newest addition
of your Unbreakable podcast speaking the forty nine ers. You
had a forty nine or on and he told them great,
told you some great stuff.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Eric Over, He was great man, you know, and also
just you know he Hey and I obviously had great
mental health talks, but also about look, I loved that
he was like, look, I played for this respect of
that guy across from me, and I love that conversation.
So we always tell our fighters, you're like, listen, man,
don't worry about the wins and losses. Just go in
there and think about it. I'm going to make the
worst afternoon for that guy across from me or night

(45:22):
when that cage door shut, and then the results usually come.
But if you could take that ego out and don't
look at it, just says man that I'm fighting playing
for this win. A lot of times when you just
playing for a win, you play not to lose. I
love that Eric was like, Man, what motivates me is
I'm just trying to get that guy cross me to

(45:43):
really respect me for my game and what I do
that night. And I love that. I wish more players
and fighters would have that mentality because you'll have a
lot more success doing things like that when you take
that ego part out of it. He's a stud.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
You want that Unbreakable podcast, you can check out the
Lincoln's on Jay's Twitter page at Jay Glazer. That is
at Jay Glazer Unbreakable a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer,
Eric Armstead. Phenomenal stuff. Jay is always buddy, appreciated man,
keep fighting the good fight. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Appreciate God, Appreciate your man.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
How about Jay saying, all of a sudden, Jared sid him,
Maybe Jared, it's not gonna be. It doesn't seem like
it's gonna be long before Jaredson.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Look, we told you, I mean our conversation, but I
didn't take him there, and he jumped straight to that.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Look, we said a few minutes, you're gonna have to
go to somebody else, and maybe you do it under
the guise of an injury or something else. And Jay is, Hey,
if Russell Wilson's not playing well, it's easy to say, right,
we got to sit him down. Maybe he's washed, and
Jared Sidham gets a chance, because we've seen Sidham play
well in Spurts, and you would if your quarterback's not firing,

(46:51):
maybe the next guy will. But russ I told you
Russell Wilson would let less than two hands number of
times he has left a quarterback the Denver Broncos. In
the offseason, he'll be on a new team. They'll figure
out the money that we're gonna be starting over at quarterback.
They'll draft high because they're gonna trade their guys away
to get draft picks that they need to recoup because
of the ones they gave up for Russell Wilson and

(47:12):
now suddenly it's gonna be a different team next year.
They'll be out from under all the money they owe
Russell Wilson by the end of next year and then
they'll be free and clear. So what's gonna happen the
next few weeks. You're gonna see Russell Wilson slowly sit down,
someone else play quarterback. And then it's gonna be what
happens to Russell in the spring when he does get traded,
because he will get traded, and.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
When it went bad, you cut those guys loose man.
And that's exactly where we're at with this look with
Russell Wilson. Through the first now six weeks of the season.
We've seen series, we've seen sequences, and a lot is made.
You know, we talk about quarterback rating, completion percentage, and
people can do the blind read of the box score.

(47:53):
Going back to that Bears game, they were getting hammered
and they're able to watch the Bears throw up on
themselves grand fashion to give that game away. Now they
went and took it, and that's fine. Different coverages. You know,
we can go through the football ease of it all,
but in the end, in a lot of meaningful moments.

(48:13):
There's just no sizzle there. And tonight you saw it.
You talked about it a lot. With the bailout and run,
you get no separation. And I'm curious if you go
to the All twenty two and what the quote old
heads will have to say about it. I certainly have
already seen Mark Schleeritz thoughts about Julie Judy and his
effort tonight is that you know, you go through and

(48:37):
how much are these guys working for us and how
much of it is on them versus they just have
a liking problem with him and the structure that was
created last year. No amount of coaching from Peyton and
the guys on his staff is able to coach that
and coax that out of those guys, you've got, you know,

(48:57):
a locker room problem, and we've talked about it with
Baltimore and the Chargers. From the idea of physical things
that just haven't been able to get away from. Right
the injury bug is still there and Denver, clearly you
still have a large disconnect between your quarterback, his receivers
and that coaching staff.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
By Thanksgiving now maybe sooner it's gonna be something maybe
by would say maybe Halloween is the over under for
Russell Wilson not being the quarterback of the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
And you know, not to try to connect dots and
put words in Jay's mouth. Peyton's a guy that j
knows really well. Yeah yeah, Jared said Jared sit So
the fact that that kind of came out, all right,
Twitter and get that what you will, Twitter?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
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We'll get to that big situation with Steve Smith and
Jerry Judy. But coming up next two nights in a row,
one hundred win team is out of the MLB playoffs.
I'm gonna play general manager and I'll tell you how
you should build your team for next year. And every
team should follow my advice it's next right here, Jason

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and Mike Fox