October 20, 2023 • 35 mins
The truth is Derek Carr isn't underrated nor is he awful. He's mid. And he's been mid since 2016. Jason shares a story about Burt Young showing up to his great grandmother’s funeral in 1983. And Saquon Barkley says he doesn’t want to be traded but knows it’s out of his control.
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football goes to the Jaguars. They hold off the Saints
buy a touchdown twenty four seventeen. It was a much
closer game than it should have been. The Saints kept
it close, they had a shot at the end, it
didn't go their way. And now we break down the
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roller coaster ride that is Derek Carr. Welcome in side.
I'm Jason he's Mike. Mike lost a lot of money
on the game tonight, but he has he had Derek
Carr with over one point seven yards per attempt and
he lost that tonight. So I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, in the league that I hate most of all,
which is a super flex with really big rosters, Derek
Carr had to be in the lineup. So the three
hundred yards and the touchdown a bit of a gift
and the two point conversion and all. So yeah, I
got that, But no, the Jaguars were winning this game.
There was no doubt in my mind, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was all the attention is going to be on
Derek Carr, right, and.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
We're wetic with Derek Carr from mid quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's the thing. But that's hey, this is the Thursday
night game, right, this is it. Who's the guy you're
talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Tyson Beijing.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Let's go Tyson Beigent uh and TJ Maybe Tyson Chicken
to be facing another NFL dvo Okay, wow, look Derek Carr.
It's it's people are on too either either a Derek
Carr apologist or Derek Carr sucks. Right, That's the way
it is with everything. Here's look how bad. Derek Carr
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is right. And here's a picture of his pick six
against the Jaguars where he throws the ball into a
gaggle of players where there's one of his guys and
three of their.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, it was a gag.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Seriously, I mean think about it. You had you at
your receiver was covered, and you had two players flanking him.
I'm still going to try to bang that ball in.
It gets deflected and it gets run back for a
touch I made.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
If they were the nickname was of a bird, you
would have called it a murder.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was a it was a murder of crows. Uh.
And then you have plays where he checks down, you
have plays where he throws out of bounds and he
yells at his teammates. There was so many cutaways night
of him yelling at various but.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Is really angry online Dennis Allen's got himself a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I don't know what he was yelling. He was you
ran the wrong route or I mean I distinctly liked
the fact where you know, there was one play where
where he yelled at Chris Olave because a Lave didn't
or broke off the broke off route.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But he didn't actually look for the ball either.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Right, exactly, So Derek Carr yells at him, Okay, I
get that. Then I see a play where he yells
at Michael Thomas where car rolls out and throws the
ball twelve feet out of bounds, and he's yelling at
Michael Toumbas. But that was the thing with the love
he do you want the ball twelve feet out of bounds?
What do you want? What do you want? Man?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Right, you threw a twenty yards downfield, which I don't
know that I was gonna be fast enough to get
to that spot, but it also would have been out
of bounds.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
There was no way I was catching that ball.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
But then you get to the points where Derek Carr
and his decision making to check down works his patients,
moving the team down the field. A game that looked
like it was lost, Derek Carr was able to bring
them back and was able to put enough points on
the board where they were going to overtime. Right, So
you have you have your Derek Carr haters who have
lots of reasons and you're apologists to say, look, I've
seen what he's done before in the past, and with
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a really good team, he can be this guy. Derek
Carr doesn't stink, and Derek Carr isn't great. Derek Carr
for the vast majority of his career, he's been mid.
That's what he's been. He had a couple of big
years early in his career. He had a nice twenty twenty,
and that's it. Every other year and then the two
years since he's been mid, and another year this year
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he's kind of mid y acts. He threw for three
hundred yards tonight, but he had fifty five passing attempts.
I mean, I mean Alvin Kamara caught twelve balls for
ninety one yards. Right, this was not efficient, but it's
still twenty four points on the board. We're getting down.
Derek Carr's mid. It's why I wasn't excited when the
Jets were talking to Derek Carr. I don't want Derek Carr.
He's mid, right, And why do you think many teams
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didn't talk to him and didn't give him an offer.
He thought he was gonna go on this big victory
tour and say, oh, all these teams are gonna want
to talk to me, because only one team's gonna get
Aaron Rodgers. I'm gonna go talk to all these teams. Hey,
I got the Saints. Yeah, I got the Jets. Uh,
where's everybody else? His agent saying, yeah, sorry, those are
the only teams. Well, the Jets are gonna get me
an offer right now. They're gonna wait for Aaron Rodgers.
But the Saints are gonna get me an offer right Nah,
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They're gonna wait. And then the Saints basically bit against
themselves and they signed They signed Derek Carr because nobody
else was gonna go in on it because he's mid.
He and he's never been able to lead a team
in the clutch to make you think that he's a
Super Bowl champion quarterback or a deep in the playoffs quarterback.
He's someone who can steady you on offense a little bit,
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But is how excited are you gonna be? He's mid
and that's why not a lot of teams wanted him.
And I'll tell you the biggest thing. I can tell
you two plays that illustrate the midness of Derek Carr,
and they were the last two plays of the game.
They're down by a touchdown, they had the ball inside
the ten yard line and the Saints have a great
play call and Foster Moreau is wide open, right, I mean,
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Foss Moreau is trending. I feel awful for the kid.
He's on the sideline with his head in his hands.
After the game was over, and two defensive players kind
of a miscommunication and Foster Moreau is wide open and
Derek Carr lays it up perf and it's a great pass.
It's a touchdown and Moreau happens to drop it, right,
I mean it's right, there's nothing, There's nothing, Oh, Derek Carr.
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Maybe no, Derek Carr threw a great pass. It was
a great recognition of what happened defensively. He was patient,
he lofted a great pass incomplete. The next play, what
does he do. It's a bad play call because it's
the fade. You know how much I hate the fade.
It's a fifty to fifty play and Derek Carr throws
a fade to Chris, a lava that the defense is
looking for. The dB was had his eyes on the
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ball the entire time. It was thrown to a bad spot,
and it was thrown to it was thrown too low,
and it was thrown to a bad location. Wasn't deep
enough into the end zone for a Lave who couldn't
even make a plan. It should have been picked off
and it wasn't, and it was a bad throw and
it was a bad play call, and that ended the game.
That's Derek Carr, right, that's Derek. If a Lave catches
that pass, yeah we have the good Derek carry there.
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And Derek Carr did everything right. The next play he
throws a horrible pass, doesn't give a Lave a chance
to get to the football at all. I don't know
if that was supposed to be a back shoulder fade.
I don't know to be. He just didn't throw it.
I don't know what kind of fade that was. It
was almost like he threw it into the ground. I'm like,
was he expecting to cut in and in front of
the dB? Like, I don't know what that throw was
supposed to be. And you know it was a timing
play because it was one step and throw. But that's
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Derek Carr. He's mid and that's all he is. And
to sit here and look and think that Derek Carr
is gonna have the Saints on the cusp of anything,
he's not. Because he's limited as a quarterback, and to
give him all that money and think, yeah, we're going
crazy with Derek Carr. Come on, man, I mean, this
is just who the guy is. He's in his thirties. Now.
The Raiders, who knew him better than anybody else, decided
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we would rather punt on a playoff's potential playoff berth
than be into him for one more year of his contract.
And we're gonna and we're gonna go out now. Not
saying the Raiders do the right thing all the time,
but they knew about him. They knew, Hey, okay, things
aren't gonna get better. We have to move on. Whether
it's Jimmy Garoppolo and and now you know who knows
what it's gonna be, probably Aidan O'Connell i could wind
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up being Brian Hoyer because now Garoppolo's hurt, it doesn't matter.
They decided we had to move on. So we had
seen enough of the Derek Carr ride. And Derek Carr
was fortunate that the Saints were the team that was
desperate for a quarterback and said, yes, we'll give you money.
And there's a reason why that was the team he
went to. Nobody else wanted them. Nobody else was going
to give him money. And that's why he is where
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he is. He's mid. It's not terrible, he's not great.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He's mid four years one fifty the contract. So we
start fighting between him and Russell Wilson. That'll be your
poll question, and you run through that which contract is worse?
Have fun with that. Look, the ball was on Moreau's
hands though, right. As much as I can kill Derek
Carr for a lot of the decisions and the checkdowns
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and cursing out his receivers, that's one that hits Moreau
in the hands. Was it a perfect ball, No, but
it should have been caught. It should have been caught
going towards the corner of the end zone. And Moreau
had to be consoled by a bunch of teammates to
get off of the bench when that game finally ended.
So good thoughts to him. He's gone through a lot
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and one of the guys you root for. But for
the Derek Carr part of the argument, Yeah, let's go
back to a stat that's now making the rounds. And
since we like to embrace all things wagering in the
network world these days. Seventeen thirty four and two against
the spread as a favorite career seventeen thirty four and two.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
As the favorite.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Miss Kirk, He's about to get Dennis Allen fired twice, No.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Rarefied air, No question about it. So, yeah, you look
at the volume of the path. Fifty five pass attempts
insane for a game that really never got out of hand, right,
You didn't feel like they were racing towards anything. The
defense gave up a couple of drives but also forced
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to turn over that you couldn't do anything with. You
had a failed fourth down attempt, missfield goal, nearly a
missed pat. I mean all sorts of chaos that comes in.
And for Derek Carr right now, you're at a point,
what is he five touches, five touchdowns or six touchdowns,
four interceptions or something like that. You get the three
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hundred yard game. So you know that goes into that
other log when we start going how many quarters and
quarterbacks have done this year? Did it feel like a
three hundred yard game?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, it did not, But how do you get there?
Like the old Saturday Night Live skit about counting change volume?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Look, Derek Carr, could he be successful? And this is
it again, tells you why he's mid Could he be
successful if he had great no weapons around him, No,
he could, but anybody could be. If you have great
weapons around you, you could be good enough. But that's
the thing. He just doesn't. Whereas Drew Brees would have
anonymous wide receiver year after year after year in New
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Orleans and suddenly, well, this guy's catching seventy five passes.
This guy, Now, this guy's catching seventy five pass the year,
guys out of Fordham and hofstraight, who are these guys?
Drew Brees found a way to make it work. It
was always that way, no matter who was around him,
he would. The Saints were better because he made everybody better.
It's why he's a Hall of Fame quarterback. And now
you look at the Saints and you say, well, you
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have Alvin Kamara, who's not quite the player he used
to be, but he's still good. And you have Chris
Olave and that's kind of it, and you don't really
you don't really have the thread a tight end anymore.
And your up and coming wide receivers aren't good, you know. Look,
Taysom Hill is an almost in every other game guy
you're paying him way too much money just to kind
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of be a gadget guy and do all these things.
The Saints need a big influx of talent if they're
gonna build a round car. Who's got two more years
left and I think thirty million a year on his
next two years, you know, to be able to try
to figure something out. The Saints are just they're just
not as talented as they used to be. And bringing
in a quarterback who is not as talented kind of
kind of you see that, well, right, you see you
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saw it with with Drew Brees, but he was able
to elevate and now you're seeing the same kind of
team with Derek Carr and there's no elevation.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Well, but it goes back in the Breeze teams when
when they had their most success. I mean, you did
have a good defense, and they did have thunder and
lightning in the backfield. And for Derek Carr and I
don't want to sound like I'm dying on the hill
to defend him, the ball hit Moreau in the hands
and we should have had a tie game.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh it did.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It did right, So, like the overall picture and of
what we watched was terrible for the most part, but
they were still in the game and he still made
throws to get them into position to give them a chance.
Now that last play was just an awful decision. But
the ball to Moreau, I mean, that's that's gotta be caught.
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Now you're missing Juan Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
He's been two plays. One was good and what one
was good by him and one was that's fine though
Moreau he catches the ball. The other one ever happens,
You're right, But how many other ifs if Derek Carr
had not done one of many?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, but we can do this to almost every quarterback
in the NFL, right, There's very few guys that you
just say, because we even had the argument and discussion
the other night about Justin Herbert. Because you have to
have it at this point in terms of fourth quarter
acumen and the ability to overcome adverse circumstance injuries, a
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head coach who doesn't know what he's doing, a defense
that has its lapses, all of those things, lack of
a competent run game most of the time, all of
those things, you still are in position to win games.
You've got to make the play Derek Carr made the
throw today, I'm not going to say for the body
of work, and certainly that seventeen thirty four and two
against the spread tells you exactly where you're at. And
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a lot of these things right meeting exceeding expectations. And
he's not a guy that I was looking for to
really do much of anything come December and into January,
but to get you through a regular season. And they
still may very well do it. So long as the
defense stays healthy and keeps you in game, you're gonna
have opportunities to steal games like they did today. And
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they let this one get away.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I don't
know how many times I said mid. There probably at
least ten, but I'm thinking at least that you took
the overten. You probably read well.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I mean, I think your teenager is probably gonna come
and me in the head.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You said me too much, Dad, you're mid You're a
mid host. Wait what then we're gonna fuck uh exit
out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. We have four
NFL on the way. Another big quarterback story to get
to plus. We remember an absolute legend that's coming up
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
On thirty two, thirty three, thirty four.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (14:56):
Play Fox Sports Radio The Jay Smith's Show with my
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Speaker 4 (15:02):
Watch the audio, guys to Derek Carr's highlights.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, it did play out kind of like The Haunted
Mansion at times.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
You would be with a Southern accent, though, because which
wasn't half bad, by the way, his Southern accent or
the Haunted Mansion.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Haunted Mansion.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah no, because I went into that movie with absolutely
no expectation and I watched it. Oh, I've spent mid Yeah,
I've spent I've spent worse hour and forty minutes. That's
a very bad man.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
As soon as it came to streaming that I already
already paid for the year, All good by me.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
No, I don't know that. I don't know that it
was a mid move. I don't I'm not saying it
was that good I it was you know, it was whatever.
But I'm not saying it was mid, but it was.
It was at least accepted.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well mid is a wide berth.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Sure, Oh this is true. This is true. Uh, The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen Lave from the Tirack
dot Com Studios. And you know, before we get to
a big story, before you get a big story out
of the NFL, here, Bert Young died yesterday. My allergies.
I was an awful day for me yesterday. It's why
I I wasn't in let yes last night he dies
(16:06):
eighty three, Uncle Pauli from Rocky And you know, all
day today I'm just thinking, Happy birthday, Paulie, Happy birthday, Paulie.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I mean we did a giant tribute last night, the
stick in x lax Watch and everything.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I mean, we played played the whole bit.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I mean, my brothers and I run that line probably
twenty times a year in a jay.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
But here's the thing is, I have a Bert Young story,
believe it or not.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Do you have any of his artwork because I'd like
a piece for my collection.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, I wish I did, but I don't. Bert Young.
And there's a very famous picture in my family that
illustrates this. Bert Young came to my great grandmother's funeral
in nineteen eighty three. Okay, I don't know how. I
don't know how he knew he knew my family. I
have no idea, but he and I was there and
(16:55):
I apparently I didn't. I don't know how. I'm twelve
years old, right, I mean, I'm twelve, and I'm you know,
I've known Rocky sure, because Rocky came out in seventy six.
There's been I think by that point there have been
three Rocky Rocky, right, So I'm like, but but it
was a bit. It was you know, my my my
great grandmother, huge family. She was the big matriarch of
the family. And uh so there was like, you know,
there was hundreds of people there and I didn't know.
(17:17):
And We're driving home and and I would say, no,
did you see Bert? Oh do you see Burt? And
you see Burt? I said, Bert? Who Bert Young? I go,
Uncle PAULI Yeah he was there. Yeah? Wait what Yeah?
How did I not see him? I'm like, no, he was.
I thought they were lying to me. Just my mom
sometimes would do that. She would just make up the
most random stuff and try to fool me.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
That's good, Yeah, which's for a healthy relationship.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It well, it tells you a lot about how I
became the way I am.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
That Reynolds was there too.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm like, no, no, no way, there's no Burt Young.
Way no. But I'm like, okay, wait a minute, how
is how Burt Young was there? Go? Yeah, he was there.
He talked to Aunt Sally, he was talking to Graham.
I'm like, no way, she's I think some people got
pictures of him, Like, oh, well, this is nineteen eighty three.
What am I going to see pictures of of Bert
Young at the at the funeral? So I'm like, yeah,
what's not gonna happen. So like like a couple months
go by and I, you know, I forgot about this.
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And then we go to see my aunt Sally, who
is my grandmother's sister, and she comes and you know,
my entire family they off my all the the the
the older women talked like like you couldn't hear them. Hey, Jason,
how are you? Yes, Aunt Sally? Yes, yes, yes, oh
oh James, I got it. I got a picture to
show you. Hang on a second. And she goes in
and she comes back out, she hands me this picture
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and it's a five x seven picture, and it's her
with her arms around Bert Young. She's smoking a cigarette.
This isn't her mom's funeral.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Whoa, whoa. Well, this really escalated quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
This is at her mom's funeral, or it might have
been after, might have been the calling hours after this picture.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Either way, I mean, even if it's at a funeral,
I mean, we've done worse.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
She's got she's got her arms around Burt Young and
her have her arms around each other, and she's smiling
with a cigarette and he's just smiling. And nobody asked
any follow up questions to this. No, Like in years
that have gone by. I'm like, I think my favorite
part is that she's got a cigarette dies she smoke out. Hey,
I couldn't put the cigarette down for a picture with
Bert Young. I got a hold onto the cigarette.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, but you know what that signifies in movie television,
as long as you and I have been alive, you got.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Anybody in the family, it looks like Burt Young runner around.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I don't. I don't think so. I No one's got
a robot that's helping him out. No one is Mason.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I think he's your uncle. Poly friends don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
They do because they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Oh man, I could have I could have called him
for money or something or anything over the last few years.
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
He was dating your grandma. I should hate to drink
it to you.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I don't know why didn't. Now my grandmother sold my
grandfather in nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
That doesn't mean they weren't dating.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Oh no, no, no, no. They didn't go anywhere without
each other. That my grandmother doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
He's down in.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Los Angeles, Furthest froughts things.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Eyes just got Really why he thought about things? What
does that mean?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
The Furthest West my grandmother went the whole time I
knew her was the Bayone Bridge. There's no way, there's
no I'm going to meet Burt.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Didn't have to know. No, no house called baby.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
No, you don't just take pictures with cigarettes for that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And you know, I've been looking. I've been trying to
get that picture for the last for the last twenty
four hours. I gone and off. And when I woke
up today and I felt better, I'm like, Okay, great stop.
I'm trying to find Susan I'm trying to get that
picture so I could put it up on social media. Go, hey,
this is here. It is is Burt Young with my
with my great with my great aunt is who she
was at her mom's. And I'm sinna going it's her
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mom's calling us and smiling taking a picture with Burt Young.
I'm like, oh, okay, all right, Like I guess all
these years, you never asked any quote.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's forty years, man, it was.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
There's questions doing that should have been addressed for these
many years. You know, I wanted nothing else. We could
have stalked him and gotten him on the show. It's
one of my heroes. I've talked about it yesterday. I
mean my uncle, my mom's younger brother. I mean, he
was balie.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I want to say that every time I tried to
ask that question, uh, in the at some point I
got blown off by it.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah see yeah, I mean it all ends up now.
I mean Prospering might have been onto something here.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah him, I know he might have been. No, I
mean I don't know. Now now I'm thinking, okay, maybe
maybe you were. I don't know. But every time, oh yeah, yeah,
how does he know everybody. Oh, I don't know. I mean,
I don't know. Wait till you're talking. Hey, who made
this painting in the hallway? Bert made this picture and
it's a portrait of my grandmother to look like Mona Lisa.
She's got our hands over each other. Uh. Yeah. I
(21:37):
tried to text my uncle this morning, never got back.
This is my uncle, right, my uncle who the minute
the Jets lose will text me after Aaron Rodgers gets
hurt and I get a text from the first time
in like five years, he'll text me right after Aaron
Rodgers gets hurt. But I text this morning going, hey, Pete,
you have that picture of aunt Sally and and and
Bert Young you have that Pitt. No you've heard that.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, but Pete might be needed to do a full
chain chain call kind of thing to make sure they
keep the story straight. What am I allowed to tell
Jason about this?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
What have we been telling Jason for the he's got
a radio show still, Okay, we can what are we
gonna tell it?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
What we're written on the back of the picture that
we have to keep that story straight because my family
used to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It'd be like random things.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
This is where this took place whatever, and I'd always
ask questions and be like, it doesn't add up. It's
like it's like you're telling stories on the back of this,
trying to create a false timeline, Like we're in the MCU.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
What is this deep dark secret that we've been holding
that we got to make sure Jason doesn't know about. Yeah,
that sounds like a bad It sounds like a bad book.
Sounds like one of those thriller of the month. I'll
get this new book where a big family secret upsets
a long time radio host, like oh, I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
That might sell lots of copies at the end of
the uh, the aisle at the supermarket, or you know,
in digital form via Amazon and so many other plat ones.
We could do the audio book and do a dramatic
reenactment for iHeartRadio. I mean, there's so many options available
to us.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, I might have to I might have to just uh,
I might have to just call the book a happy birthday,
POULI might.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Have to bad happy birthday. It might have been a
very happy birthday. Of the way you're describing this photo.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well, listen, we hang on, hang on, my my My
great aunt at the time was hang On born in
nineteen to eight.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
We got walked on the line here.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, what's Walt down to say about it?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
She would have been sixty five the time. Sixty five. Yeah,
I'm just saying she would have been sixty five, and
Bert would have been in his your early fifties. Bert
was still getting down. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, well, well okay,
it's your grandma job stop my great aunt anyway, not
my grandma, it's.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Your uncle, Bally confirmed.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
What did you do for me?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Mick in the house, Jason Science, She was talking a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
What you do for me? You? I never did nothing
for me, Rock.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
When all those guys were laughing at you, who stood
up for you? Well, they was laughing at both of us.
They were laughing at me. Hey, remember when I told
you minutes ago I wanted to be you.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah? Yeah, well forget it, thanks, PAULI.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Hey you can I have a job? Oh? He had
to do is ask? Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, no, Bert Young? Bert Young? In my family, Bert.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Young, what do you think has to say about all this?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Oh? He doesn't know. It's my mom's side of the family.
He has no idea, No he has no idea, No,
he hasn't no, No, you know who my dad his friend.
My dad's family was friends with, not lying, friends with
Richard Gear's parents, not lying, Richard Gears you want, I got,
I gotta.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Run some lines there. I'm laving that one alone.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I have a Richard Gears dad story, Like I went
to a wedding I think in Syracuse in like nineteen
w his hair perfect, I don't know, I don't know.
And I went to a wedding in like nineteen seventy
four in Syracuse because Richard Gears fan, he's off from Syracuse,
and my dad's family knew his family. Now, I didn't
know at this point. Richard Gear was probably five or
(25:06):
six years away from officer and a gentleman, the dlly
lama himself, the flowing robes, the gray striking really and
we went to a wedding and I think Richard Gear
was there because all of his family was there. And
I don't remember this, but I remember my mom telling me,
and I think bits and pieces when I was younger,
I remembered was that I really was antsy and I
couldn't behave I couldn't sit still during this It's one
(25:29):
of those weddings where it was like, you know, oh,
it's one of those Hey, the ceremony is gonna be
an hour and forty five minutes, like oh, come on, man, really,
So it was one of those really long weddings and
I just couldn't sit still. And Richard Gear's dad came
over and said, hey, I'll take Jason outside, and you know,
and it's fine. And I'm sure he did it because
he wanted to get up and get out too, but
he took me outside, and the whole wedding was he
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stood outside and we played together like I was playing.
We were throwing a ball with him and everything and
and and his dad took me outside for them. Then
the wedding ended. I was so happy my parents gone.
I was like, Yay, the wedding's over. And I ran
back and say, I don't even remember who got married,
but there you go. There's my there's my brush with
Richard Richard Gear's parents and Bert Young. Wait what year
was this, like seventy four? I want to say something
(26:11):
like that.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
All right, So at that point he'd been in a
couple of TV movies and he was still a couple
of years away from American Jigglow.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, oh was that before?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah? That was an eighty and officer and a gentleman
was eighty two?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh okay, okay, so yeh see he was still breathless.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, right into the Cotton Club and all that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
But yeah, at this point he would have been still
a year and a half away from an episode of Kojack.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
You know, I had that statue of Kojak on my desk.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And I found out a thrift store. It's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
He's in the pinstripe suit, he's got the fedoran and
you can in his hand you can put a lollipop.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Hey, you got a callback for to be the bad
guy of the week on Kojak. I'm gonna be I'm
gonna be busy next week. Hey, that's great, man, you
do it fantastic.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Who loves you baby?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah? So there go? Those are my about that. My
run in is right there, Richard Gear's parents and Bert Young.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
That's that's some next level stuff, right.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
There, Bert Young, Rest in peace, Burt Young.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
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Speaker 1 (27:23):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon live from the Tireck dot Com studios,
and we'll get back into the Thursday night game coming
up in about fifteen minutes. But a big story, a
big running back story. I know I said quarterback FW Minutesico,
I'd say running back my fault. I'll admit when I
was wrong. I thought the Astros were done there, and
(27:43):
then we'll have that too. Saquon Barkley made a big
plea today after Giants practice, saying that he doesn't want
to get traded. Trade deadline, of course, is four o'clock
on Halloween. Quote. Sitting here, everyone knows how I feel.
Everyone knows I don't want to get traded. I don't
think anyone in their right mind would want to get
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traded anywhere. Let me introduce you to the rest of
the NFL. So Saquon Barkley doesn't want to get traded. Now,
why does he not want to get traded? Is this
because he loves the Giants and he loves his teammates,
and he loves what's going on and wants to turn
it around. Eh. I'm sure that's part of it. But
the other part of it is what Saquon Barkley wants
(28:24):
a new contract after this year, right he was franchised,
does not like it, does not want to be franchised again.
But right now being franchised might be his best option
for next year because he has had yet another year
where he has been injured and ineffective. And this is
kind of what it's been for Saquon Barkley's entire career.
(28:45):
He'll have a great year as a rookie, year was great,
his next year was still good, but not quite that great.
Then he was hurt, then he was kind of mid
then he had a great year, and now it's not
started out again. So Barkley has been up and down
his entire creas. It's not somebody that's been great all along.
The best way for Saquon Barkley to at least get
franchised again this next year and to get the most money,
(29:06):
which if I want, what's the biggest thing you can
get right now, that's twelve million dollars next year. Right
because it's not starting to weigh We're a third of
the way through the season. And he's averaging under four
yards of carry and he's having trouble staying on the field.
He knows the best path to more money for him
is if he stays a Giant who like him and
have the loyalty to him because they drafted him. They
still believe in him and think he's a big player.
(29:28):
He's a big player, the teammates like him. If he
goes someplace else and a never gets off the ground,
because that happens running backs, it's difficult. You were talking
about a different system, different way, and you're learning the blockers,
learning the system, and you might not have a great year,
and then you come off a free agency and suddenly,
oh wait a minute, we're not going to give you
(29:49):
a lot of money because you know you got traded
last year and he only ran for three hundred yards.
He averaged three point seven yards per carry. He knows
that going someplace else is a dice roll. He may
not wind up cutting through, and he's also not healthy.
And the best place he's gonna get more money is
if he stays with the Giants, because let's say he
goes to a new team, Let's say a team in
desperate need of running back goes and gets Let's say
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the Browns want to trade for him, right, even if
he does have a good year, are the Browns gonna
give him a lot of money? And of course not right, Well,
Nick Chubb is coming back. Ye, they're not gonna do it.
No one's gonna give him money. The best place for
him to get paid, which is what he wants, is
to stay and make it work in New York. Now
it's not a perfect plan, but it's the best plan
what he has right now. That's the real reason why
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he wants to stay. I'm sure he likes New York.
He's got his family is there. He's saying all the
right things, but bottom line, you know, he wants to
get paid and the only way to get there is
to turn it around in New York.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
The rest of the season, with all apologies to Tom Petty.
The legend off the album The Last DJ, there's a
song called well.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Joe, my name's Joe. I'm the CEO.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, I'm the man that makes the big wheels roll
keeps going through. You get to be famous, I get
to be rich. Is the end of the stanza as
you go through and we recognize with the Giants.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
A lot of last year's success for.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Brian Dabele, Daniel Jones getting his money was predicated on
Saquon Barkley being healthy. He's not an idiot, his agent's
not an idiot. Look at what happened to this offense
with no Saquon Barkley there to roll up. Congratulations Matt
Burda on a job done. You need Barkley to make
that work, and fans still love him when he's available,
(31:31):
so that that line of logic checks out. Also, veteran
running back, it's like all these guys with these mid
because that's the word of the night day mid quarterbacks,
like you're gonna go find the next guy, the new guy,
the shiny new toy where you can likewise that running back.
How many guys have cycled through you mentioned in Cleveland,
(31:53):
you got your own Ford bring back Kareem Hunt to
take on some carries along the way. Just just look
at most of these squads. You find a low round
or undrafted player that can come in and do a
reasonably good job.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Right. Zach Moss was thrown to the Wolves because he
couldn't stay healthy, couldn't become the guy in Buffalo and
all of a sudden, he's running wild. They're in Indianapolis
ahead of Jonathan Taylor coming back, curious to see the
split going forward and what the workload looks like and
how the offense runs with Minshew long term. But the
point being, yeah, the only place is there where your
(32:31):
value has been proven to keep the to be a
pivotal cog in that offense. You know, It's it's hard
because the Giant season has been such a disaster, right,
I mean it really has. No one saw this. Look.
I thought they were going to be really, really good,
and I thought Brian Davill was a great head coach,
and instead now it's is the guy a great head coach?
(32:52):
Is Daniel Jones any good when he gets back in
the line that a Saquon Barkley still have? It's been
an absolute disire.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I just know he's really you, really mad Ataron Taylor
and former wonder Kin up there in the booth.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Mike Kafka, go catch.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, one of the thirteen quarters without a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, it's a long time. It's a long time.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
That's a lot of football.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, No, it's a it's a long time, interminable. Yeah,
So it's hard because I because I get it, I
get the frustration, I get everything. And it's hard when
you think your best chance is to turn it around
with a team that's terrible. But that's really what it is,
you know. And and for any running back, now, for
especially Sakuon Barkley, they have to see realities. That's the
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other big part of this story with Barkley saying, hey,
I want to say I want to make it work.
He's got to understand now that this the three year,
thirty six million dollar Jonathan Taylor type deal is not
out there for him anymore. And he and and and
he understands that, well, okay, maybe I could get franchised again.
That's how quick it turns for a running back. He
went from a half another big year after this year
to suddenly, I'll give you a two year deal and
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twenty seven to twenty eight million, most of it guaranteed.
Now it's I got hope to get franchised by the
giants again. That they're too scared of life without.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Well that's it go on, right, or that that's a
big thing, or that maybe you convince them and they
look at how the Colts and Ersa took care of
Jonathan Taylor and maybe you can coach them somewhere in
that neighborhood. But that's gonna you're gonna be on the
outskirts of that neighborhood. Yeah, it's I mean it's or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Maybe he's signed to get traded, Like maybe that was
the best. Hey, now that we signed him, now teams
may get to the deadline can trade for him because
they know what they have to pay him now. Because
Zach Moss is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You know, he's pretty fit. He's fit very well.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
You know, so you're you're you don't have to worry
about paying him and keeping him. Now that people know
what it's gonna take, maybe he's a little bit more tradable.
I still wouldn't be surprised if Jonathan Taylor got traded
the deadline, because you have.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Him and you still have some rumors going around with
Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
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Speaker 1 (34:56):
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football goes to the Jaguars. They hold off the Saints
buy a touchdown twenty four seventeen. It was a much
closer game than it should have been. The Saints kept
it close, they had a shot at the end, it
didn't go their way. And now we break down the
(01:10):
roller coaster ride that is Derek Carr. Welcome in side.
I'm Jason he's Mike. Mike lost a lot of money
on the game tonight, but he has he had Derek
Carr with over one point seven yards per attempt and
he lost that tonight. So I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, in the league that I hate most of all,
which is a super flex with really big rosters, Derek
Carr had to be in the lineup. So the three
hundred yards and the touchdown a bit of a gift
and the two point conversion and all. So yeah, I
got that, But no, the Jaguars were winning this game.
There was no doubt in my mind, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was all the attention is going to be on
Derek Carr, right, and.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
We're wetic with Derek Carr from mid quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's the thing. But that's hey, this is the Thursday
night game, right, this is it. Who's the guy you're
talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Tyson Beijing.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Let's go Tyson Beigent uh and TJ Maybe Tyson Chicken
to be facing another NFL dvo Okay, wow, look Derek Carr.
It's it's people are on too either either a Derek
Carr apologist or Derek Carr sucks. Right, That's the way
it is with everything. Here's look how bad. Derek Carr
(02:22):
is right. And here's a picture of his pick six
against the Jaguars where he throws the ball into a
gaggle of players where there's one of his guys and
three of their.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, it was a gag.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Seriously, I mean think about it. You had you at
your receiver was covered, and you had two players flanking him.
I'm still going to try to bang that ball in.
It gets deflected and it gets run back for a
touch I made.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
If they were the nickname was of a bird, you
would have called it a murder.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was a it was a murder of crows. Uh.
And then you have plays where he checks down, you
have plays where he throws out of bounds and he
yells at his teammates. There was so many cutaways night
of him yelling at various but.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Is really angry online Dennis Allen's got himself a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I don't know what he was yelling. He was you
ran the wrong route or I mean I distinctly liked
the fact where you know, there was one play where
where he yelled at Chris Olave because a Lave didn't
or broke off the broke off route.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But he didn't actually look for the ball either.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Right, exactly, So Derek Carr yells at him, Okay, I
get that. Then I see a play where he yells
at Michael Thomas where car rolls out and throws the
ball twelve feet out of bounds, and he's yelling at
Michael Toumbas. But that was the thing with the love
he do you want the ball twelve feet out of bounds?
What do you want? What do you want? Man?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Right, you threw a twenty yards downfield, which I don't
know that I was gonna be fast enough to get
to that spot, but it also would have been out
of bounds.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
There was no way I was catching that ball.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
But then you get to the points where Derek Carr
and his decision making to check down works his patients,
moving the team down the field. A game that looked
like it was lost, Derek Carr was able to bring
them back and was able to put enough points on
the board where they were going to overtime. Right, So
you have you have your Derek Carr haters who have
lots of reasons and you're apologists to say, look, I've
seen what he's done before in the past, and with
(04:01):
a really good team, he can be this guy. Derek
Carr doesn't stink, and Derek Carr isn't great. Derek Carr
for the vast majority of his career, he's been mid.
That's what he's been. He had a couple of big
years early in his career. He had a nice twenty twenty,
and that's it. Every other year and then the two
years since he's been mid, and another year this year
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he's kind of mid y acts. He threw for three
hundred yards tonight, but he had fifty five passing attempts.
I mean, I mean Alvin Kamara caught twelve balls for
ninety one yards. Right, this was not efficient, but it's
still twenty four points on the board. We're getting down.
Derek Carr's mid. It's why I wasn't excited when the
Jets were talking to Derek Carr. I don't want Derek Carr.
He's mid, right, And why do you think many teams
(04:45):
didn't talk to him and didn't give him an offer.
He thought he was gonna go on this big victory
tour and say, oh, all these teams are gonna want
to talk to me, because only one team's gonna get
Aaron Rodgers. I'm gonna go talk to all these teams. Hey,
I got the Saints. Yeah, I got the Jets. Uh,
where's everybody else? His agent saying, yeah, sorry, those are
the only teams. Well, the Jets are gonna get me
an offer right now. They're gonna wait for Aaron Rodgers.
But the Saints are gonna get me an offer right Nah,
(05:05):
They're gonna wait. And then the Saints basically bit against
themselves and they signed They signed Derek Carr because nobody
else was gonna go in on it because he's mid.
He and he's never been able to lead a team
in the clutch to make you think that he's a
Super Bowl champion quarterback or a deep in the playoffs quarterback.
He's someone who can steady you on offense a little bit,
(05:26):
But is how excited are you gonna be? He's mid
and that's why not a lot of teams wanted him.
And I'll tell you the biggest thing. I can tell
you two plays that illustrate the midness of Derek Carr,
and they were the last two plays of the game.
They're down by a touchdown, they had the ball inside
the ten yard line and the Saints have a great
play call and Foster Moreau is wide open, right, I mean,
(05:46):
Foss Moreau is trending. I feel awful for the kid.
He's on the sideline with his head in his hands.
After the game was over, and two defensive players kind
of a miscommunication and Foster Moreau is wide open and
Derek Carr lays it up perf and it's a great pass.
It's a touchdown and Moreau happens to drop it, right,
I mean it's right, there's nothing, There's nothing, Oh, Derek Carr.
(06:07):
Maybe no, Derek Carr threw a great pass. It was
a great recognition of what happened defensively. He was patient,
he lofted a great pass incomplete. The next play, what
does he do. It's a bad play call because it's
the fade. You know how much I hate the fade.
It's a fifty to fifty play and Derek Carr throws
a fade to Chris, a lava that the defense is
looking for. The dB was had his eyes on the
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ball the entire time. It was thrown to a bad spot,
and it was thrown to it was thrown too low,
and it was thrown to a bad location. Wasn't deep
enough into the end zone for a Lave who couldn't
even make a plan. It should have been picked off
and it wasn't, and it was a bad throw and
it was a bad play call, and that ended the game.
That's Derek Carr, right, that's Derek. If a Lave catches
that pass, yeah we have the good Derek carry there.
(06:51):
And Derek Carr did everything right. The next play he
throws a horrible pass, doesn't give a Lave a chance
to get to the football at all. I don't know
if that was supposed to be a back shoulder fade.
I don't know to be. He just didn't throw it.
I don't know what kind of fade that was. It
was almost like he threw it into the ground. I'm like,
was he expecting to cut in and in front of
the dB? Like, I don't know what that throw was
supposed to be. And you know it was a timing
play because it was one step and throw. But that's
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Derek Carr. He's mid and that's all he is. And
to sit here and look and think that Derek Carr
is gonna have the Saints on the cusp of anything,
he's not. Because he's limited as a quarterback, and to
give him all that money and think, yeah, we're going
crazy with Derek Carr. Come on, man, I mean, this
is just who the guy is. He's in his thirties. Now.
The Raiders, who knew him better than anybody else, decided
(07:35):
we would rather punt on a playoff's potential playoff berth
than be into him for one more year of his contract.
And we're gonna and we're gonna go out now. Not
saying the Raiders do the right thing all the time,
but they knew about him. They knew, Hey, okay, things
aren't gonna get better. We have to move on. Whether
it's Jimmy Garoppolo and and now you know who knows
what it's gonna be, probably Aidan O'Connell i could wind
(07:55):
up being Brian Hoyer because now Garoppolo's hurt, it doesn't matter.
They decided we had to move on. So we had
seen enough of the Derek Carr ride. And Derek Carr
was fortunate that the Saints were the team that was
desperate for a quarterback and said, yes, we'll give you money.
And there's a reason why that was the team he
went to. Nobody else wanted them. Nobody else was going
to give him money. And that's why he is where
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he is. He's mid. It's not terrible, he's not great.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He's mid four years one fifty the contract. So we
start fighting between him and Russell Wilson. That'll be your
poll question, and you run through that which contract is worse?
Have fun with that. Look, the ball was on Moreau's
hands though, right. As much as I can kill Derek
Carr for a lot of the decisions and the checkdowns
(08:41):
and cursing out his receivers, that's one that hits Moreau
in the hands. Was it a perfect ball, No, but
it should have been caught. It should have been caught
going towards the corner of the end zone. And Moreau
had to be consoled by a bunch of teammates to
get off of the bench when that game finally ended.
So good thoughts to him. He's gone through a lot
(09:02):
and one of the guys you root for. But for
the Derek Carr part of the argument, Yeah, let's go
back to a stat that's now making the rounds. And
since we like to embrace all things wagering in the
network world these days. Seventeen thirty four and two against
the spread as a favorite career seventeen thirty four and two.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
As the favorite.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Miss Kirk, He's about to get Dennis Allen fired twice, No.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Rarefied air, No question about it. So, yeah, you look
at the volume of the path. Fifty five pass attempts
insane for a game that really never got out of hand, right,
You didn't feel like they were racing towards anything. The
defense gave up a couple of drives but also forced
(09:53):
to turn over that you couldn't do anything with. You
had a failed fourth down attempt, missfield goal, nearly a
missed pat. I mean all sorts of chaos that comes in.
And for Derek Carr right now, you're at a point,
what is he five touches, five touchdowns or six touchdowns,
four interceptions or something like that. You get the three
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hundred yard game. So you know that goes into that
other log when we start going how many quarters and
quarterbacks have done this year? Did it feel like a
three hundred yard game?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, it did not, But how do you get there?
Like the old Saturday Night Live skit about counting change volume?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Look, Derek Carr, could he be successful? And this is
it again, tells you why he's mid Could he be
successful if he had great no weapons around him, No,
he could, but anybody could be. If you have great
weapons around you, you could be good enough. But that's
the thing. He just doesn't. Whereas Drew Brees would have
anonymous wide receiver year after year after year in New
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Orleans and suddenly, well, this guy's catching seventy five passes.
This guy, Now, this guy's catching seventy five pass the year,
guys out of Fordham and hofstraight, who are these guys?
Drew Brees found a way to make it work. It
was always that way, no matter who was around him,
he would. The Saints were better because he made everybody better.
It's why he's a Hall of Fame quarterback. And now
you look at the Saints and you say, well, you
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have Alvin Kamara, who's not quite the player he used
to be, but he's still good. And you have Chris
Olave and that's kind of it, and you don't really
you don't really have the thread a tight end anymore.
And your up and coming wide receivers aren't good, you know. Look,
Taysom Hill is an almost in every other game guy
you're paying him way too much money just to kind
(11:38):
of be a gadget guy and do all these things.
The Saints need a big influx of talent if they're
gonna build a round car. Who's got two more years
left and I think thirty million a year on his
next two years, you know, to be able to try
to figure something out. The Saints are just they're just
not as talented as they used to be. And bringing
in a quarterback who is not as talented kind of
kind of you see that, well, right, you see you
(12:00):
saw it with with Drew Brees, but he was able
to elevate and now you're seeing the same kind of
team with Derek Carr and there's no elevation.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Well, but it goes back in the Breeze teams when
when they had their most success. I mean, you did
have a good defense, and they did have thunder and
lightning in the backfield. And for Derek Carr and I
don't want to sound like I'm dying on the hill
to defend him, the ball hit Moreau in the hands
and we should have had a tie game.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh it did.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It did right, So, like the overall picture and of
what we watched was terrible for the most part, but
they were still in the game and he still made
throws to get them into position to give them a chance.
Now that last play was just an awful decision. But
the ball to Moreau, I mean, that's that's gotta be caught.
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Now you're missing Juan Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
He's been two plays. One was good and what one
was good by him and one was that's fine though
Moreau he catches the ball. The other one ever happens,
You're right, But how many other ifs if Derek Carr
had not done one of many?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, but we can do this to almost every quarterback
in the NFL, right, There's very few guys that you
just say, because we even had the argument and discussion
the other night about Justin Herbert. Because you have to
have it at this point in terms of fourth quarter
acumen and the ability to overcome adverse circumstance injuries, a
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head coach who doesn't know what he's doing, a defense
that has its lapses, all of those things, lack of
a competent run game most of the time, all of
those things, you still are in position to win games.
You've got to make the play Derek Carr made the
throw today, I'm not going to say for the body
of work, and certainly that seventeen thirty four and two
against the spread tells you exactly where you're at. And
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a lot of these things right meeting exceeding expectations. And
he's not a guy that I was looking for to
really do much of anything come December and into January,
but to get you through a regular season. And they
still may very well do it. So long as the
defense stays healthy and keeps you in game, you're gonna
have opportunities to steal games like they did today. And
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they let this one get away.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I don't
know how many times I said mid. There probably at
least ten, but I'm thinking at least that you took
the overten. You probably read well.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I mean, I think your teenager is probably gonna come
and me in the head.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You said me too much, Dad, you're mid You're a
mid host. Wait what then we're gonna fuck uh exit
out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. We have four
NFL on the way. Another big quarterback story to get
to plus. We remember an absolute legend that's coming up
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
On thirty two, thirty three, thirty four.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app
comes this night.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Play Fox Sports Radio The Jay Smith's Show with my
best friend Mike Harry.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Watch the audio, guys to Derek Carr's highlights.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, it did play out kind of like The Haunted
Mansion at times.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
You would be with a Southern accent, though, because which
wasn't half bad, by the way, his Southern accent or
the Haunted Mansion.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Haunted Mansion.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah no, because I went into that movie with absolutely
no expectation and I watched it. Oh, I've spent mid Yeah,
I've spent I've spent worse hour and forty minutes. That's
a very bad man.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
As soon as it came to streaming that I already
already paid for the year, All good by me.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
No, I don't know that. I don't know that it
was a mid move. I don't I'm not saying it
was that good I it was you know, it was whatever.
But I'm not saying it was mid, but it was.
It was at least accepted.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well mid is a wide berth.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Sure, Oh this is true. This is true. Uh, The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen Lave from the Tirack
dot Com Studios. And you know, before we get to
a big story, before you get a big story out
of the NFL, here, Bert Young died yesterday. My allergies.
I was an awful day for me yesterday. It's why
I I wasn't in let yes last night he dies
(16:06):
eighty three, Uncle Pauli from Rocky And you know, all
day today I'm just thinking, Happy birthday, Paulie, Happy birthday, Paulie.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I mean we did a giant tribute last night, the
stick in x lax Watch and everything.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I mean, we played played the whole bit.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I mean, my brothers and I run that line probably
twenty times a year in a jay.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
But here's the thing is, I have a Bert Young story,
believe it or not.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Do you have any of his artwork because I'd like
a piece for my collection.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, I wish I did, but I don't. Bert Young.
And there's a very famous picture in my family that
illustrates this. Bert Young came to my great grandmother's funeral
in nineteen eighty three. Okay, I don't know how. I
don't know how he knew he knew my family. I
have no idea, but he and I was there and
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I apparently I didn't. I don't know how. I'm twelve
years old, right, I mean, I'm twelve, and I'm you know,
I've known Rocky sure, because Rocky came out in seventy six.
There's been I think by that point there have been
three Rocky Rocky, right, So I'm like, but but it
was a bit. It was you know, my my my
great grandmother, huge family. She was the big matriarch of
the family. And uh so there was like, you know,
there was hundreds of people there and I didn't know.
(17:17):
And We're driving home and and I would say, no,
did you see Bert? Oh do you see Burt? And
you see Burt? I said, Bert? Who Bert Young? I go,
Uncle PAULI Yeah he was there. Yeah? Wait what Yeah?
How did I not see him? I'm like, no, he was.
I thought they were lying to me. Just my mom
sometimes would do that. She would just make up the
most random stuff and try to fool me.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
That's good, Yeah, which's for a healthy relationship.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It well, it tells you a lot about how I
became the way I am.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
That Reynolds was there too.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm like, no, no, no way, there's no Burt Young.
Way no. But I'm like, okay, wait a minute, how
is how Burt Young was there? Go? Yeah, he was there.
He talked to Aunt Sally, he was talking to Graham.
I'm like, no way, she's I think some people got
pictures of him, Like, oh, well, this is nineteen eighty three.
What am I going to see pictures of of Bert
Young at the at the funeral? So I'm like, yeah,
what's not gonna happen. So like like a couple months
go by and I, you know, I forgot about this.
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And then we go to see my aunt Sally, who
is my grandmother's sister, and she comes and you know,
my entire family they off my all the the the
the older women talked like like you couldn't hear them. Hey, Jason,
how are you? Yes, Aunt Sally? Yes, yes, yes, oh
oh James, I got it. I got a picture to
show you. Hang on a second. And she goes in
and she comes back out, she hands me this picture
(18:26):
and it's a five x seven picture, and it's her
with her arms around Bert Young. She's smoking a cigarette.
This isn't her mom's funeral.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Whoa, whoa. Well, this really escalated quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
This is at her mom's funeral, or it might have
been after, might have been the calling hours after this picture.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Either way, I mean, even if it's at a funeral,
I mean, we've done worse.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
She's got she's got her arms around Burt Young and
her have her arms around each other, and she's smiling
with a cigarette and he's just smiling. And nobody asked
any follow up questions to this. No, Like in years
that have gone by. I'm like, I think my favorite
part is that she's got a cigarette dies she smoke out. Hey,
I couldn't put the cigarette down for a picture with
Bert Young. I got a hold onto the cigarette.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, but you know what that signifies in movie television,
as long as you and I have been alive, you got.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Anybody in the family, it looks like Burt Young runner around.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I don't. I don't think so. I No one's got
a robot that's helping him out. No one is Mason.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I think he's your uncle. Poly friends don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
They do because they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Oh man, I could have I could have called him
for money or something or anything over the last few years.
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
He was dating your grandma. I should hate to drink
it to you.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I don't know why didn't. Now my grandmother sold my
grandfather in nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
That doesn't mean they weren't dating.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Oh no, no, no, no. They didn't go anywhere without
each other. That my grandmother doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
He's down in.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Los Angeles, Furthest froughts things.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Eyes just got Really why he thought about things? What
does that mean?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
The Furthest West my grandmother went the whole time I
knew her was the Bayone Bridge. There's no way, there's
no I'm going to meet Burt.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Didn't have to know. No, no house called baby.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
No, you don't just take pictures with cigarettes for that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And you know, I've been looking. I've been trying to
get that picture for the last for the last twenty
four hours. I gone and off. And when I woke
up today and I felt better, I'm like, Okay, great stop.
I'm trying to find Susan I'm trying to get that
picture so I could put it up on social media. Go, hey,
this is here. It is is Burt Young with my
with my great with my great aunt is who she
was at her mom's. And I'm sinna going it's her
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mom's calling us and smiling taking a picture with Burt Young.
I'm like, oh, okay, all right, Like I guess all
these years, you never asked any quote.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's forty years, man, it was.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
There's questions doing that should have been addressed for these
many years. You know, I wanted nothing else. We could
have stalked him and gotten him on the show. It's
one of my heroes. I've talked about it yesterday. I
mean my uncle, my mom's younger brother. I mean, he
was balie.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I want to say that every time I tried to
ask that question, uh, in the at some point I
got blown off by it.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah see yeah, I mean it all ends up now.
I mean Prospering might have been onto something here.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah him, I know he might have been. No, I
mean I don't know. Now now I'm thinking, okay, maybe
maybe you were. I don't know. But every time, oh yeah, yeah,
how does he know everybody. Oh, I don't know. I mean,
I don't know. Wait till you're talking. Hey, who made
this painting in the hallway? Bert made this picture and
it's a portrait of my grandmother to look like Mona Lisa.
She's got our hands over each other. Uh. Yeah. I
(21:37):
tried to text my uncle this morning, never got back.
This is my uncle, right, my uncle who the minute
the Jets lose will text me after Aaron Rodgers gets
hurt and I get a text from the first time
in like five years, he'll text me right after Aaron
Rodgers gets hurt. But I text this morning going, hey, Pete,
you have that picture of aunt Sally and and and
Bert Young you have that Pitt. No you've heard that.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, but Pete might be needed to do a full
chain chain call kind of thing to make sure they
keep the story straight. What am I allowed to tell
Jason about this?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
What have we been telling Jason for the he's got
a radio show still, Okay, we can what are we
gonna tell it?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
What we're written on the back of the picture that
we have to keep that story straight because my family
used to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It'd be like random things.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
This is where this took place whatever, and I'd always
ask questions and be like, it doesn't add up. It's
like it's like you're telling stories on the back of this,
trying to create a false timeline, Like we're in the MCU.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
What is this deep dark secret that we've been holding
that we got to make sure Jason doesn't know about. Yeah,
that sounds like a bad It sounds like a bad book.
Sounds like one of those thriller of the month. I'll
get this new book where a big family secret upsets
a long time radio host, like oh, I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
That might sell lots of copies at the end of
the uh, the aisle at the supermarket, or you know,
in digital form via Amazon and so many other plat ones.
We could do the audio book and do a dramatic
reenactment for iHeartRadio. I mean, there's so many options available
to us.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, I might have to I might have to just uh,
I might have to just call the book a happy birthday,
POULI might.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Have to bad happy birthday. It might have been a
very happy birthday. Of the way you're describing this photo.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well, listen, we hang on, hang on, my my My
great aunt at the time was hang On born in
nineteen to eight.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
We got walked on the line here.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, what's Walt down to say about it?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
She would have been sixty five the time. Sixty five. Yeah,
I'm just saying she would have been sixty five, and
Bert would have been in his your early fifties. Bert
was still getting down. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, well, well okay,
it's your grandma job stop my great aunt anyway, not
my grandma, it's.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Your uncle, Bally confirmed.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
What did you do for me?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Mick in the house, Jason Science, She was talking a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
What you do for me? You? I never did nothing
for me, Rock.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
When all those guys were laughing at you, who stood
up for you? Well, they was laughing at both of us.
They were laughing at me. Hey, remember when I told
you minutes ago I wanted to be you.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah? Yeah, well forget it, thanks, PAULI.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Hey you can I have a job? Oh? He had
to do is ask? Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, no, Bert Young? Bert Young? In my family, Bert.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Young, what do you think has to say about all this?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Oh? He doesn't know. It's my mom's side of the family.
He has no idea, No he has no idea, No,
he hasn't no, No, you know who my dad his friend.
My dad's family was friends with, not lying, friends with
Richard Gear's parents, not lying, Richard Gears you want, I got,
I gotta.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Run some lines there. I'm laving that one alone.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I have a Richard Gears dad story, Like I went
to a wedding I think in Syracuse in like nineteen
w his hair perfect, I don't know, I don't know.
And I went to a wedding in like nineteen seventy
four in Syracuse because Richard Gears fan, he's off from Syracuse,
and my dad's family knew his family. Now, I didn't
know at this point. Richard Gear was probably five or
(25:06):
six years away from officer and a gentleman, the dlly
lama himself, the flowing robes, the gray striking really and
we went to a wedding and I think Richard Gear
was there because all of his family was there. And
I don't remember this, but I remember my mom telling me,
and I think bits and pieces when I was younger,
I remembered was that I really was antsy and I
couldn't behave I couldn't sit still during this It's one
(25:29):
of those weddings where it was like, you know, oh,
it's one of those Hey, the ceremony is gonna be
an hour and forty five minutes, like oh, come on, man, really,
So it was one of those really long weddings and
I just couldn't sit still. And Richard Gear's dad came
over and said, hey, I'll take Jason outside, and you know,
and it's fine. And I'm sure he did it because
he wanted to get up and get out too, but
he took me outside, and the whole wedding was he
(25:49):
stood outside and we played together like I was playing.
We were throwing a ball with him and everything and
and and his dad took me outside for them. Then
the wedding ended. I was so happy my parents gone.
I was like, Yay, the wedding's over. And I ran
back and say, I don't even remember who got married,
but there you go. There's my there's my brush with
Richard Richard Gear's parents and Bert Young. Wait what year
was this, like seventy four? I want to say something
(26:11):
like that.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
All right, So at that point he'd been in a
couple of TV movies and he was still a couple
of years away from American Jigglow.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, oh was that before?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah? That was an eighty and officer and a gentleman
was eighty two?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh okay, okay, so yeh see he was still breathless.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, right into the Cotton Club and all that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
But yeah, at this point he would have been still
a year and a half away from an episode of Kojack.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
You know, I had that statue of Kojak on my desk.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And I found out a thrift store. It's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
He's in the pinstripe suit, he's got the fedoran and
you can in his hand you can put a lollipop.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Hey, you got a callback for to be the bad
guy of the week on Kojak. I'm gonna be I'm
gonna be busy next week. Hey, that's great, man, you
do it fantastic.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Who loves you baby?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah? So there go? Those are my about that. My
run in is right there, Richard Gear's parents and Bert Young.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
That's that's some next level stuff, right.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
There, Bert Young, Rest in peace, Burt Young.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm. Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon live from the Tireck dot Com studios,
and we'll get back into the Thursday night game coming
up in about fifteen minutes. But a big story, a
big running back story. I know I said quarterback FW Minutesico,
I'd say running back my fault. I'll admit when I
was wrong. I thought the Astros were done there, and
(27:43):
then we'll have that too. Saquon Barkley made a big
plea today after Giants practice, saying that he doesn't want
to get traded. Trade deadline, of course, is four o'clock
on Halloween. Quote. Sitting here, everyone knows how I feel.
Everyone knows I don't want to get traded. I don't
think anyone in their right mind would want to get
(28:04):
traded anywhere. Let me introduce you to the rest of
the NFL. So Saquon Barkley doesn't want to get traded. Now,
why does he not want to get traded? Is this
because he loves the Giants and he loves his teammates,
and he loves what's going on and wants to turn
it around. Eh. I'm sure that's part of it. But
the other part of it is what Saquon Barkley wants
(28:24):
a new contract after this year, right he was franchised,
does not like it, does not want to be franchised again.
But right now being franchised might be his best option
for next year because he has had yet another year
where he has been injured and ineffective. And this is
kind of what it's been for Saquon Barkley's entire career.
(28:45):
He'll have a great year as a rookie, year was great,
his next year was still good, but not quite that great.
Then he was hurt, then he was kind of mid
then he had a great year, and now it's not
started out again. So Barkley has been up and down
his entire creas. It's not somebody that's been great all along.
The best way for Saquon Barkley to at least get
franchised again this next year and to get the most money,
(29:06):
which if I want, what's the biggest thing you can
get right now, that's twelve million dollars next year. Right
because it's not starting to weigh We're a third of
the way through the season. And he's averaging under four
yards of carry and he's having trouble staying on the field.
He knows the best path to more money for him
is if he stays a Giant who like him and
have the loyalty to him because they drafted him. They
still believe in him and think he's a big player.
(29:28):
He's a big player, the teammates like him. If he
goes someplace else and a never gets off the ground,
because that happens running backs, it's difficult. You were talking
about a different system, different way, and you're learning the blockers,
learning the system, and you might not have a great year,
and then you come off a free agency and suddenly,
oh wait a minute, we're not going to give you
(29:49):
a lot of money because you know you got traded
last year and he only ran for three hundred yards.
He averaged three point seven yards per carry. He knows
that going someplace else is a dice roll. He may
not wind up cutting through, and he's also not healthy.
And the best place he's gonna get more money is
if he stays with the Giants, because let's say he
goes to a new team, Let's say a team in
desperate need of running back goes and gets Let's say
(30:09):
the Browns want to trade for him, right, even if
he does have a good year, are the Browns gonna
give him a lot of money? And of course not right, Well,
Nick Chubb is coming back. Ye, they're not gonna do it.
No one's gonna give him money. The best place for
him to get paid, which is what he wants, is
to stay and make it work in New York. Now
it's not a perfect plan, but it's the best plan
what he has right now. That's the real reason why
(30:30):
he wants to stay. I'm sure he likes New York.
He's got his family is there. He's saying all the
right things, but bottom line, you know, he wants to
get paid and the only way to get there is
to turn it around in New York.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
The rest of the season, with all apologies to Tom Petty.
The legend off the album The Last DJ, there's a
song called well.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Joe, my name's Joe. I'm the CEO.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, I'm the man that makes the big wheels roll
keeps going through. You get to be famous, I get
to be rich. Is the end of the stanza as
you go through and we recognize with the Giants.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
A lot of last year's success for.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Brian Dabele, Daniel Jones getting his money was predicated on
Saquon Barkley being healthy. He's not an idiot, his agent's
not an idiot. Look at what happened to this offense
with no Saquon Barkley there to roll up. Congratulations Matt
Burda on a job done. You need Barkley to make
that work, and fans still love him when he's available,
(31:31):
so that that line of logic checks out. Also, veteran
running back, it's like all these guys with these mid
because that's the word of the night day mid quarterbacks,
like you're gonna go find the next guy, the new guy,
the shiny new toy where you can likewise that running back.
How many guys have cycled through you mentioned in Cleveland,
(31:53):
you got your own Ford bring back Kareem Hunt to
take on some carries along the way. Just just look
at most of these squads. You find a low round
or undrafted player that can come in and do a
reasonably good job.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Right. Zach Moss was thrown to the Wolves because he
couldn't stay healthy, couldn't become the guy in Buffalo and
all of a sudden, he's running wild. They're in Indianapolis
ahead of Jonathan Taylor coming back, curious to see the
split going forward and what the workload looks like and
how the offense runs with Minshew long term. But the
point being, yeah, the only place is there where your
(32:31):
value has been proven to keep the to be a
pivotal cog in that offense. You know, It's it's hard
because the Giant season has been such a disaster, right,
I mean it really has. No one saw this. Look.
I thought they were going to be really, really good,
and I thought Brian Davill was a great head coach,
and instead now it's is the guy a great head coach?
(32:52):
Is Daniel Jones any good when he gets back in
the line that a Saquon Barkley still have? It's been
an absolute disire.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I just know he's really you, really mad Ataron Taylor
and former wonder Kin up there in the booth.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Mike Kafka, go catch.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, one of the thirteen quarters without a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, it's a long time. It's a long time.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
That's a lot of football.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, No, it's a it's a long time, interminable. Yeah,
So it's hard because I because I get it, I
get the frustration, I get everything. And it's hard when
you think your best chance is to turn it around
with a team that's terrible. But that's really what it is,
you know. And and for any running back, now, for
especially Sakuon Barkley, they have to see realities. That's the
(33:34):
other big part of this story with Barkley saying, hey,
I want to say I want to make it work.
He's got to understand now that this the three year,
thirty six million dollar Jonathan Taylor type deal is not
out there for him anymore. And he and and and
he understands that, well, okay, maybe I could get franchised again.
That's how quick it turns for a running back. He
went from a half another big year after this year
to suddenly, I'll give you a two year deal and
(33:56):
twenty seven to twenty eight million, most of it guaranteed.
Now it's I got hope to get franchised by the
giants again. That they're too scared of life without.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Well that's it go on, right, or that that's a
big thing, or that maybe you convince them and they
look at how the Colts and Ersa took care of
Jonathan Taylor and maybe you can coach them somewhere in
that neighborhood. But that's gonna you're gonna be on the
outskirts of that neighborhood. Yeah, it's I mean it's or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Maybe he's signed to get traded, Like maybe that was
the best. Hey, now that we signed him, now teams
may get to the deadline can trade for him because
they know what they have to pay him now. Because
Zach Moss is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You know, he's pretty fit. He's fit very well.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
You know, so you're you're you don't have to worry
about paying him and keeping him. Now that people know
what it's gonna take, maybe he's a little bit more tradable.
I still wouldn't be surprised if Jonathan Taylor got traded
the deadline, because you have.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Him and you still have some rumors going around with
Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
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Speaker 1 (34:56):
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