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October 21, 2023 • 34 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon tell you how USC gets back on track this week against Utah. The benches clear in the ALCS after Adolis Garcia gets hit following his home run. And the guy's preview Lions vs. Ravens!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:50):
in Major League Baseball. Will break down more from both
of these incredible games coming up. In about twenty minutes.
The Astros looked like they were dead. It was going
to be the Rangers up three to two. Instead, the
Astros get a three run homer by Jose al Tuve
in the top of the ninth.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
They go on to beat the Rangers.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Dusty Baker, I think is just finding out about it
now because he was thrown out of the game, and
the Diamondbacks, who looked like they were dead in the water,
down five to two, and the seventh well add Craig Kimbrel,
sprinkle some salt, tada, Diamondbacks win at six five, and
now the NLCS is tied at two games apiece, the
pivotal game five tomorrow. We talked about Zach Wheeler on

(01:29):
the mound for the Phillies, so much pressure on him.
And look, I get that the Phillies seemed like a
team of destiny, but that stuff changes awful fast in
the playoffs. And you just watched two games where the
Phillies came into this saying, hey, we got this series right.
We blew them out. We have such a big home
field advantage in Philadelphia. We blew them out in game two.

(01:50):
They're dead. No one wants to come to these games.
The tickets are sixteen dollars a piece to come to
these two last two games. And look what happened. A
dramatic win in Game three and an and an even
more dramatic win here in Game four.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
It's almost like and.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Not quite obviously, because we're talking one of the biggest
comebacks of all time. But it's almost a little bit like, hey,
the Yankees and the Red Sox in two thousand and four,
or hey, the Yankees are up three zip and it seemed, hey,
we got this, and Boston just had that sense of
urgency and Rivera got beat a couple of times, and
you know, it's the biggest comeback in the history of sports,
coming back from down three zip. I kind of feel

(02:26):
a little bit like that here with the Phillies and
the Diamondbacks, because the Phillies being up to zip, it
was boy, man, hey, this is about as big a
two to nothing lead as you could possibly have. Like
the Diamondbacks looked like they were rattled and they didn't
belong in the NLCS. But you go home and you're
able to pull out an emotional win and then another
game where looked like you were done and it's another
late inning emotional win that changes a team of destiny

(02:49):
pretty fast.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Well, I think with some of it it goes back to,
you know, the character of teams that a loss is
just a loss, right, you beat me by ten?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
The NFL when we watched team get bludgeoned.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
It may feel like nine losses as you're watching your
team get obliterated possession by possession. Go back to that
Miami Denver game. All right, maybe Denver's not the best
example given.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
What they are, but you get my point.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
You gotta show some intestinal fort to actually went for
the joke. It was low hanging fruit and I took it.
But you go in you just say, hey, it's another day,
it's another opportunity, and you don't get down.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I mean, what did we do?

Speaker 4 (03:28):
The Dodgers folded up shop when they got down, right,
We watched that in the series as they they went out,
went with naria whimper and like we're down early again.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
There was no get them on, get them over, get
them in, no rallying cry, no sense of urgency and
where at bats were now being strategic of let's take
a couple of extra pitches. No, what'd you have a
bunch of guys going up there first ball swinging like
they were gonna get you know, the five run home
run and get them back into games. So with with

(04:00):
the Arizona squad, I mean, that's how they made their bones.
That's how they got to the playoffs and right, and
how they're they're rolling through is that they just keep
grinding away. Are they you know, talent for talent the
same as Philly. No, you don't have the names, you
don't have the star power. A bunch of young guys
but scrappy and they have the advantage of not having

(04:21):
to sweat kimberl uh, the advantage of taking taking advantage
of that kind of thing. On the American League side. Look,
until the Astros were vanquished, there was always a chance.
And folks can write, you know, all the jokes they want,
and I've certainly seen all of them in the Twitter
slash x world at Swollen Dome. Uh, you know, for

(04:42):
for what they're doing, how they're doing, especially when it's Altuve.
I think a lot of people have the sense of anybody,
but that guy, you know when it comes when it
comes to these things and doing historic things, and and
he is going to be one of the most complicated
figures to ever kind of evaluate. It's like, you still
look at the career of Rough the opal Marrow and
what do we think about him wagging his fingers. He's

(05:04):
still five hundred and three thousand, right, I mean, it's
still rarefied air, but it doesn't matter. He's an afterthought
and all this stuff, and al Tuove is gonna be
one of those guys. As his career goes on, we're
gonna have more of those debates.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
He's a bleeping cheater.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I know, buddy, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Or he does this and he's gonna end his career
with bb he's a bleeping cheater. And he's gonna end
his career being the all time leader for home runs
in the postseason in Major League Baseball history.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
You're just getting by standouts, not by mind. That's right.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Frosper's got a different status. I don't have those stats.
They're all out of my stat book.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
No, that's okay.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
He's he's creative and he has his own set of
rules and standards by which he lives. I got no
problem with that.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Anybody in that house to stand on seven phone bucks
to do an interview after the game is not allworthy.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Okay, why are we going after the interviewers?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
He was going after all to Oh.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Okay the Jase. That could have gone either way.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
The Chase's Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live from the
tirag dot com Studios. So we'll have more on the
big day in Major League Baseball and the biggest mistake
that one of the teams made that contributed to their loss.
We have that coming up in about fifteen minutes. But
we have a huge day in college football tomorrow, and
we have an elimination game. We have a game that's
going to potentially eliminate one team. So let's take a

(06:24):
look at some of the big games, because look, the
first elimination game is Utah and USC. Both these teams
have a loss, and USC clearly has not had the
best last few days.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
They followed up this incredibly awful loss to the Notre
Dame Fighting Irish with not stories of how do we
bounce back? But Lincoln Riley has lost control of the program.
He's not taking any responsibility for the team losing. And
now Caleb Williams, we're hearing that, Hey, I want a
piece of ownership with whatever team drafts me in the NFL.
We talked to Pete Futac earlier in the show and

(06:56):
he says, it just doesn't sound to me like the
USC is where their heads are going to be. And look,
and I wonder you know, we talked about a little
bit with Jason Cole. Hey, next year, Caleb.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Williams goes number one overall.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Guess what, man, he's gonna be your coach with the
Bears because you know they're gonna go as a package deal.
Caleb Williams is gonna come out and Lincoln Riley's gonna
jump from USC to the NFL. Yeah, because things are
things are not going great with USC. It's not been
what he thought it was gonna be. Just in the
second year. He's already lost the room, right, he has
lost the fan base, He has lost the room all

(07:29):
because of one loss against Notre Dame. But this is
what happens when you don't come in and are able
to rally everybody to your cause. Like Lincoln Riley came in.
It was supposed to be all right, man, hey, what
do we got here? Come all the transfers, here comes everybody,
and we're gonna win the national title. They were right
there last year and then they lost at the end
of Utah. It was how does that happen? And now

(07:50):
this year, this lost to Notre Dame has not just
been a loss, but it's been whoa man The program's
not going in the right direction all right, time out,
time out, timeout, Everything is fine. Yes, you should not
have lost a Notre Dame by by by that count well.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
But it goes back to that intestinal fortitude thing we're
talking about with the Diamondbacks. Whatever you like or hate
is of the Houston Astro.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
But you still you still have a lot of talent.
It's still there for you. There's nothing that's not there
for you now because you have one loss, right, you
still have a way to go. You still play Washington. Uh,
plenty of l's up there, but it's still there. But
I can see the end of this year things not
going well enough and him jumping to the NFL. But
for Saturday, I'll take USC in this game, and it

(08:34):
mainly for two reasons. One because whenever USC is not
expected this one I say, whenever they're expected to win
is when they lose.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
When they're not expected to win, they.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Play very well right when the pressure is off USC,
and this has been a hallmark since Pete Carroll. When
the pressure is off, USC wins. When the pressure is on,
and as games they have to win well, they wind
up they wind up playing well. Caleb Williams knows I
can't have two bad games in a row. He doesn't
like the question, Hey, I want ownership of the team.
Coming off a game where he throws three picks. USC's

(09:04):
offense is two dynamic. Utah's got a lot of injures,
especially a quarterback. They're not going to be able to
keep up. The game is at USC, it's not in Utah.
I can't see Utah keeping up. I think USC wins
this game and they pulled away. Williams has a big game,
and for one week everything is right at USC.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well, except this is one of the great tests to
see if you can actually scheme up defensively against the
team that is, as you say, not good, not good
offensively at all. Even with the thirty four to fourteen
win against Cal this last time out. I mean they're
running out there banged up. Deep in the depth chart

(09:41):
at QB. You look at their wins. Weber State was
a thirty one point output otherwise twenty four twenty fourteen,
that win over UCLA, and then they got beat twenty
one to seven by Oregon State. Not a team that
generates a lot of offense, not much in the rush game.
So the opportunity for USC here. They don't have to

(10:04):
be perfect. They are seven point favorites at home for
this one. But yeah, I would expect them to hold
Servey here. It gets interesting, far more interesting after this. Now,
if that defense for Utah that we've watched, that we've
read about, that you know has been so much dissected,
is able to curb things early. I think it would

(10:26):
be interesting to watch what happens as you get towards halftime,
if it's a close game, if it's a one score game,
if Utah, heaven forbid, for USC fans out there has
a lead, do they melt or does the genius come
back with something at their healf? You keep trying to
put them on the Bears. I can't have you do that.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
It's gonna happen, man, because you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Lincoln Riley than the Lincoln Riley thing.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
You're gonna have both.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
The only way he gets to have the job is
if he can point out where Alan Williams is.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's the only day.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Alan Williams was the defensive coordinator that walked away.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
To get ready out the name. It's happening for you.
It's you're getting both of them, all right. There's no
more eber Flues and you're gonna you're gonna, but you're
getting both of them. Sorry, you're getting both of them.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
I agree with all the Bears legends that have come
forward and saying, how much different is it if you
bring in Caleb Williams when you still have to fix
everything else?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, but you're bringing a guy who supposedly is a
generational quarterback. Okay, he's not just somebody put that tab
on it. But mean, Caleb Williams is terrific, man, I
mean he and he's already got his eye on the
next level. Uh No, and he's already and he's got
the coach that has been there with him. Sometimes I'm
okay with that. You'll get something for Justin Fields. And

(11:43):
you know you're not gonna get a first round pick,
but you'll get something for Justin Fields. The jetsill trade
for Justin Fields to back up Aaron Rodgers coming off
their Super Bowl win with Zach Wilson.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
So it'll be a good quarterback room, you will. But
that's how it's.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Gonna go, man, wherever canleably if that is there, if
for Caleb Willilliams, that that's gonna be another power play. Right,
He's not gonna get ownership of a team, But hey,
I want my coach with me, and I want Lincoln Riley.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Guess what Lincoln Riley's going You.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Sure that he loves Lincoln Riley this much.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Coorse he does.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Look where he's got him. He's got him on the
cusp of being the number one pick on the draft.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
He's got him everywhere. He's got hi where he should be.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Look at the body language on the sidelines sometimes I
don't know if it's all love.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
You're gonna get him here.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
You're the body language expert here. You should have been
looking at that. It's gonna be great. You're gonna get
him both and you're gonna love it.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Besides, you get love it up on your guy, fireman,
And I mean that's the thing you love more than anything.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
You look at him eye.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
And your defense is gonna be awful, just like this year.
So it's not gonna be a.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Change, Williams. Just changes levels.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Uh. The other big game and the big nude kickoff
for Fox is Penn State Ohio State. Yes, sir, and
again this is another game where again, my biggest bet
on this game is the under.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Did you say nude? Yeah, big new kickoff. It's a
big nud kickoff, right, that's what they say, don't they
The big nude kickoff. It's a big Pete Feu Tech.
We've talked about that, the big new kick off on Fox.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Look, this is another game done.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I'm going to take the under because both defenses are
terrific and you know, going each way here, Ohio States
played better teams than Penn State has and they've both
done what they're supposed to do. I don't know how
great both of these teams are. They both seem like
they're really good. But the fact that Ohio State's played

(13:25):
a little bit better competition, they're playing at home. I'll
take Ohio State by a field goal. Look, Penn State
winning wouldn't surprise me. But on the road winning when
Ohio State, Yeah, give me Ohio State in this buy
a field goal.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
You know, it is the curiosity, right because we do
it a lot with the NFL, you and I as
we break down teams and try to you know, go
after four games, Okay, what.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Are they right now?

Speaker 4 (13:47):
We're a third of the way through the season, you know,
and you get six teams on buy this week and
you're looking around going all right, what are they? I
see there's still a lot of talk for teams like
Miami for Philadelphia. They mattled each other. Are they great?
Are they a product? Debate and beating some bums like
when we were talking about with the Cowboys years ago

(14:08):
and or weeks ago, I should say, and for many
many years since the last Super Bowl win. But just
for the idea of Penn State, you know, they beat Iowa. Okay,
that was the ranked team on their schedule. Hey, you
gotta beat who's on the schedule. It doesn't matter style,
points and whatever. But you go into here with a
lot of unknowns, and even Ryan Day saying, quote, I

(14:29):
don't know if I have a good feel for who
we are as a team. No, that's a pretty good quote.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
And listen, you don't get to the CFP by having
an offense that's just good enough, right, You don't do that.
And that's both of these teams. Their offenses have just
been good enough, which is why I don't know how
good both of these teams are. But I'll be but yeah,
in this game where it's close, I'll take the team
with a little bit better resume and they're playing at home,
and but mainly I'll take the under in the under

(14:56):
sixteen thirteen. This would be one of those games that's
three to three at half time and you're gonna go, oh,
my goodness, but give me sixteen thirteen Ohio State in
this one.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Ohio State, six straight wins in the series. Be sure
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Speaker 3 (15:13):
Fox Sports Radio five. Second Carlton Dance Party. Explain to
millennials who the hell Carlton is.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm sorry, I got to explain to millennials who Carlton is.
Oh boy, okay, they're doing the Carlton Okay, I gotta
do that.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I gotta explain Tom Jones. Okay, you know what. We're
just gonna go on.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
I like the Tom Jones Ones where they go back
to his old variety show from the late sixties early
seventies and they take out the music that he's dancing
and singing along to and they then insert heavy metal
tunes or whatever.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Read.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
We read the book Tom Jones in college for one
of my English classes. I have an English degree, and
one of my friends. It was a class where it
was if you went to class, you attended class. He
gave you one grade hire on your final grade, because
you know, he liked attendancy classes. So I had to
do was go to class, right, you get a great hire.
But one of my friends didn't go all year, like

(16:08):
all semester. He was keeping up with everything. But then
the last to do is to read Tom Jones. And
my other friend who was in the class told him said, yeah,
you gotta get it. It's He goes, well, I got
I gotta get the book. He goes, well, it's the
Tom Jones the autobiography. So the so the kid actually
goes and he gets some kind of I don't know
if it was autible, and he gets a book on

(16:29):
Tom Jones' life and he says it, why are we
reading this book in this class? And then we had
to tell him. He was so he wanted to fight
my friends so bad. He was so mad at him
because he went out and bought the book. He bought
some are booker, Yeah, that's the one that Tom book
on Tom.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
It wasn't on the Syllabusoo.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Many autobiography was really really mad.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Really in depth writing and storytelling about what's new pussy Cats.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
I spent all time reading the and this is a good,
completely other book.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Wait, what what are you talking of it?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's stapled inside there you have Thunderball.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, tell you that Live with the Horns.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's that. Nothing beats that boy. I may tell you.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
We're going to be tested on his entire career, his
entire career from the beginning all the way up until
the last couple of years, all his when he does
supermarket fines on Letterman Show. You gotta know that too,
do I have to do?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
On his swear? You can leave your hat On.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Garman Live from the
tire rag dot Com Studios, Big Night in Major League Baseball,
we we talked about the Diamondbacks coming from behind to
beat the Phillies. They get runs, three runs all charged
to Craig Kimberl in the eighth inning. They hold on
to beat the Phillies six ' five. Meanwhile, earlier in
the day, we had a brawl with the Astros and

(17:50):
the Rangers, and it looked like the Rangers were going
to win, and then all kinds of craziness happened. Now,
first let's talk about the brawl. This was a game
in which Dolus Garcia hits a home run to give
the Rangers a four to two lead off of Justin Verlander,
and Garcia just does the big peacocking around the bases right.

(18:12):
He starts walking up the first base line with the bat.
Then he spikes the bat. He's yelling at the dugout,
and he crosses his home plate with a little bit
of a dance. And as soon as I saw that,
I said, he's gonna get hit the next time up.
They're gonna hit him next time he comes.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
I watched it thinking he was auditioning for the WWE,
like he was waiting for the fireworks to pop, like
he was Cody Rhoades the American Nightmare or something that
U or Seth Rollins comes out or whatever it is.
Because he stopped about halfway up to the first base
he did he did bat steal in his hand.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, it's like you have to remind dude, you have
to go all the way around the bases. I don't
know you do. You have to go all the way
around the bases.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Have you are not Brendan Gleeson with the club in
the gangs of New York Toronto.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Guys the basis of and he held the band and
Bartolo cologne and Bartolo.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Colon is true, and Bartolo did not and yield his bat.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
So it looks like the Rangers are gonna win. And
it's four to two and they're into the eighth inning,
and the next time up for Garcia, Brian Abrayu hits
them with a fastball in the ribs and right away
Garcia goes at Martin Maldonado, the catcher. These guys have history,
and benches empty, and Garcia starts pushing Maldonado a little bit.

(19:24):
Dusty Baker comes out and gets mad and he gets
thrown out. Brian Obreo gets thrown out, and Garcia gets
thrown out.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
It's a big.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Long delay and Baker won't leave the dugout. They have
to go explain to him again that he's thrown out
of the game. It was really weird, but I don't
disagree with anything they did in that situation. Yes, you
can sit back from three thousand miles away on television
to go there was no reason to throw those guys
out and what was going there was no warning. There
was another Yeah, I get it, but look at what
that game had. You had Garcia, who pea cocked his

(19:54):
way around the bases, right, you knew that was gonna happen.
This is baseball. And he gets thrown at, he gets hit,
and bench is empty.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
All right.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
You have to make sure you are in control of
this game. And if you allow all those players to
stay in, who knows what happens. And none of the
umpires wanted to lose control over it. They need to
make their decisions a little quicker, but they made the
right ones. Look, Dusty Baker decided I want to get
thrown out because I'm sure he thought at that point
the ass was gonna lose the game, and at least
this is gonna happen. I'm gonna get thrown out and

(20:23):
maybe we get a bit of a break in the
next game.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Whatever it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
You're always looking for the next call if you're a manager,
and I'm sure Baker thought we're gonna lose. It's now
first and second, nobody out in the eighth inning. We're
gonna give up more runs here and the Rangers are
going up three two. But I agree with the umpires
doing it because you want to keep control of the game,
and they were nervous that it was going to get
out of their control because Garcia was nearly out of
control and Baker was out of control. They threw him

(20:49):
out early. So I'm okay with what they did and
getting that done. They could have a little bit faster
and Rob Manford's not happy with the pace of play,
I'm sure, but I agree with doing what they need
to do to keep the game and keep control of it.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
See.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
I thought it was terrible in the moment, and hours later,
I still think it was awful. Alright, he plunked him?
Was it intentional? Are you really gonna put another guy on?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Like?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Situational baseball wise, it just didn't make sense. That doesn't
mean he's not a rogue hothead, but I don't think
Dusty Baker or the Astros in that moment like you
know what he did last time? Yeah, there you go,
nod in a wink and inside it was funny. I
was watching it with my daughters and they like, why
is he mad at the catcher? It's like, well, in
this kind of situation here, let me go back and

(21:32):
rewind the home run walk for you, And I showed them,
and Mattie goes, if someone did that against us, I go, yes,
she would be in the third row the next time
she drove up your side of the field.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I'm sure of it.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
But yes, So perhaps he thinks the catcher was the
one that ordered the pitch inside. Look, I get it,
you're upset and part of you is waiting on it.
You just as you mentioned the bad blood him Nato.
You did have Josea Bray who come over and was talking,

(22:05):
uh and you know, trying to you know, get get
I'm sorry, I'm now just all over the place, uh,
in terms of the sequencing, But yeah, it was it
was a writer that came over to to talk to
him and try to calm Garcia down, which he said,
you know, helped. He's like, look and then look at
his situation, and he broke it down to him. Is

(22:26):
what he said in the post game that because in
the moment, you're just thinking I got plunked because they
were mad at me, and you know, you're right to
think about that for a second.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
But it's still baseball. It's still a playoff game. It's
still a two run game.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Like it's just all the logic goes out the window
and Dusty got everything he wanted and then some out
of that.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Right, But I know, I don't I agree. I don't
think he threw at him to hit him. He was
throwing inside to say, hey, don't peakcock around the bases,
but he still wound up hitting him.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Right, You can't throw the guy the game.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, when when bench is empty something, you can't
just empty like that and say.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
No, you can't.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
You can't your charge a testosterone extra emotion because once
you do, once you do that, as as as the umpires, okay,
the game and the game got back to pretty normal
play right away. If it doesn't, the atmosphere is still
charged and who knows what the next play is and
things he can get out of control. I mean, I
get that it wasn't what they were planning on doing,

(23:25):
but the end result was the guy got hit, and
Garcia didn't go just go to first base. He decided
to start something, and it was it was if Maldonado
clearly could have reality retaliated and suddenly now you got
a big brawl, but he doesn't. He kind of looks away.
I think they got lucky there, and I think in
the moment they say, okay, we have to do this,
we have to move on. And look and I get

(23:46):
you know, Baker, you know you could read his lips going,
this is how it's done. Like he's like, this is
when a guy does that after home run they throw
it inside out him.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
He can read his lips. This is how it's done.
Like you guys don't get it. But it got out
of control. So yeah, that's how it goes.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
See, you're your definition of out of control is much
different than mine.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
When the.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
When the bench is empty in a playoff game, and
the and the and the the empty from the bullpen
out and you got a hole.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Players back, that's a little out of control. That's a
lot of control.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Boys will be boys moving on.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
You would just let everybody fight. Nah, go fight, go
to that first guys fight. Now.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
The other big thing from this game that really I
I really can't believe they didn't do is that Look,
the Rangers don't get any runs in the eighth inning
and they go to the ninth inning and it's four
to two, and you can tell the clerk it's not
quite his game. He gives up a single and then
he walks John Singleton, who is a one sixty five
hitter and Jose al Tuove basically ran up to the plate.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
He couldn't wait to hit.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
And you look at the clerk and he was staring
up at the sky and you could tell he just
wasn't there. And I don't know if it was have
made a difference, but the first thing I thought of,
because I'm much more attuned to this because I think
about it because I know if I was coaching and
you know, if I was coaching my girls team in
a in a in a in a state championship game
like you, I would have said, Okay, when you walk

(25:17):
a one sixty five hitter and you're my closer, I'm
going to come out and talk to you and take
the temperature down. And nobody came out. They did That's
what you need to do in that situation.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Now.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Now I don't know if maybe leclerk doesn't like when
guys come out or whatever, but at that point, this
is game five of the Alcs, and nobody came out
to calm him down, and not even and it sometimes
it's not even saying anything to him, it's just coming
out there and saying the normal crap stuff. Hey don't
worry about the runner at second. Let's try if it's
hit here, you can guy turn two in the middle
and just give the picture a second to decompress and

(25:49):
get a little bit of of of of his karma
back and get a little bit of his his belief back.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
But you needed that, and you didn't. And you didn't.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
You didn't call time, You didn't stop the momentum a
little bit. You didn't try to get out there and
try to help Clerk. And I was stunned about that.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I was sudden.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
There was no trip pitching coach, boach, she nobody went
out to say, hey, all right now, first and second,
nobody out, let's understand this. And sometimes that's all you need.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
And that helped.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Now, I don't know if that would have helped that.
I don't know if that would have helped them, and
he would have he would have gotten Altov out, But
I know the way that was going Altov ran up
to he couldn't wait to go hit because let Clerk's
confidence was all kinds of shot, and the and the
Rangers just let it happen. And they got caught watching
the game, and Bruce Bochie got caught watching the game
that's the big mistake, right, home runs are gonna happen,
hits are gonna happen. It's gonna go that way. But

(26:32):
that was a big mistake. They did not go out
and try to stop the situation and do what they
could to wind up maybe putting Laclerk in a bit
of a different mindset to try to get the final
three outs of the game.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Well, you got Ice the kicker, and uh you know
in this case you had the pinchhitter, base it, pinchitter
walk all right, pause, you know, pinch runners coming out.
Let's let's pause. Let's go out there. Hey, we got
a lot of stuff going on there. You know, candlesticks
make a Nike always make an eye skif right, I
have a little levity. Hey there's John Candy. I don't know,

(27:04):
whatever the case may be, but certainly slow it down
and pause against a guy who, you know, whatever you
think of him, is still be writing record books here
for postseason play and clutch hits. So, uh yeah, one
that got away situationally here for Texas.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
And what happened, Well, that home run sounded like this,
and the wind up.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Here Stevo.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Man Altube, the cheating bomb hits it over the fence
back to you guys.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Wow, what a call.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
That is the greatest call ever. I want to see
you can win tickets or prizes. I want to sagre
to play that call during the update. I wanted to
play that call of the Joseo.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
To home run.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Okay, all right, I want that and the courtesy and
give the courtesy to all right, exit out about if Pretska.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Exit swollen Dome.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike r Boy from the
Tire rag Dot comes in. Is Yeah, the biggest mistake.
You gotta do something, man. You can't get caught watching
the game. And Bruce Bochi got caught watching the game.

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Speaker 1 (28:21):
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Speaker 2 (28:24):
My Upset special Lot.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Our upset specials are coming up next hour. Okay, you're
a few minutes away. We'll have our upset specials. Don't worry,
We'll have them big week in the NFL. Right, we
got our upset specials. We talked about some other games.
Let's talk about the game of the week. Except the
game of the week isn't really what are you thinking? No,
it's not clar Cliff playing Indianapolis. Gardner Minshew is a

(28:51):
quarterback man, and I don't know. I think Brian Site
might play quarterback for the Brown. I heard Admiral Luck
comes back to playing this game. Yeah, okay, he was
just Captain Andrew Luck. Oh was he?

Speaker 4 (29:03):
He would have to get promoted in order to come back.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
That was part of the well, I mean that's part
of the negotiating.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yes, we have Dolphins Eagles, which is a big game
Sunday night. A lot of offense in that game and
a half right, Chargers Chiefs another game. We're looking at
a lot of offense in that one. But the game
if you could tell me, hey, you could only watch
one game this week, and you know, with the Jets
not playing, who knew the NFL would be hurting boyd
No Jets, no Cowboys? Man, Wow, that's tough.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
The game The game I would tell you is Lions Ravens.
This game is so intriguing. Look, the other games are great,
and there'd be a lot of points in those games.
But you were talking about a Lions team that can
cement their status as a Super Bowl contender with a
big win on the road against a really good defense, right,
and Lamar Jackson. They can cement their status as Hey,

(29:55):
we are the team to beat in the AFC North,
and I can jumpstart my MVP campaign as well. And
this is going to be some kind of game because
both teams have great defenses. Right, The Lions rush defense
is one of the top defenses in the league. Good
luck trying to run, and they can be able to
handle Lamar Jackson. Is Jared Goff going to have a

(30:15):
game that keeps him in the MVP discussion?

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Know?

Speaker 1 (30:18):
By the way, see that on Twitter this week we
talked about the path of Jared Goff to the MVP
is a really easy one. This is the game I
can't wait to see because you have Jamison Williams back
now he's part of the offense and the Lion I
mean just the fact the Lions cut through the clutter.
This would be the big prove it game for them
because I think right now people look at the Lions
and they go, yeah, they're a great story and they

(30:39):
score a lot of points. They're a lot of fun.
But eh, you know, the forty nine ers are better,
and maybe I'm believing in the Cowboys a little bit more.
And the Dolphins are good and the Chiefs are good. No,
this is that game where the Lions can cement their
status and say, no, no, no, we're even better than
you thought we were. They're better than I thought they
would be, and I have him going to the super Bowl.
They're at five and one. I thought they'd be around
five hundred and they'd start taking off right now. They've

(31:00):
already been better than I thought. And I'm taking the
Lions to win this game too.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
They won the game off the jump Kansas City, and
then you know, you caveat that out if you want
to go down that road or whoever plays, that's who
you beat. No Jones and no Kelsey in that one,
but twenty one to twenty is your final.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Then you beat.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Seattle or you lose to Seattle, I should say in
that overtime shootout, thirty seven thirty one. Fine, And then
the next four games are teams that you just say, well, yeah,
they're not good teams. So this is for Detroit. I
could see where folks could be, you know, on the
hold button of I'm not jumping on board yet until
they go and win another game. Because they are Detroit.

(31:41):
There's still a lot of residual angst, and I'm not
quite sure where it all comes from, related to Jared
Goff or going back to Dan Campbell, pressers and whatever else.
They do have some injuries to look at. Gibbs is
gonna come back, but you're out a couple of weeks
with Montgomery, so we'll see how much that affects what
you're doing with your offense. Craig Reynolds was also limited

(32:05):
hamstring and tow injuries, so you don't have the depth
that you anticipated in the run game.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
When you look.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
At the Baltimore Ravens giving up just fifteen point two
points per game thus far, defense been there, The run
game hasn't been exactly what you would expect from a
Harbass squad, and Lamar Jackson has been betrayed by his
receiving core more times than anybody can count. You need
to get ten of your closest friends together the commarre,

(32:33):
I need your hands, What do you need my hands for?
It's like count The drops keep going so that's where
the Ravens are a three point favorite. I'm on that
side of the game for this one. Lamar and Company
looking for Andrews and Zay Flowers to keep doing the
greatness that they give you and for Lamar Jackson to
just make one extra special play to take you over.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
No, I'm riding all I said Lions super Bowl, I
am riding out all the way. Man, need to keep
putting that on Twitter. Remember I told you the Lions
were going to the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Well, I mean end up being wrong. Nobody's gonna care.
That's the beauty of this.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
I mean, you see guys in suits with high salaries
say stupid things all the time, but I nobody And
now I'm right. Let's just see what they're gonna say
dumber next.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. Does not
put that backhanded compliment on me. I never backhand compliment you.
As far as no, I was celebrating. So you ever
wear a suit?

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Yeah, I was talking about suit and booted guys, not you.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Who's the you don't even wear sleeves. You're crying out.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Of dumb stuff, just not wearing a suit. Who's the
guy in the shirt with food stains on it in sweatpants.
That's the guy I want to listen to. He had
the Lions and the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Well, I mean he's a man of the people, vacations. Hey,
just what did you eat today? What stain? Are we
talking about it?

Speaker 3 (33:49):
We had pizza?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, listen, we had the deep Dish pizza tonight. I
know you couldn't make it in. We had the deep
dish pizza. And so you know with deep days what
full deep dick.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, there's a lot of you know, there's a lot
of Marina Parris sauce. And that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Jayson.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
You want to tell him, should I?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Uh, you tell him, You're gonna tell him.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
No, you tell him. Gohod we used your credit card money.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah, I figured it was the case. I did get
a notice from the bank that something transpired.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I thought it was from He said it was the
greatest pizza pizza he's ever had.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Steve actually is called up to He called in to
add on after we said we're going Oh no, no,
I got some more.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
So we added on, I'll take a pint a go. Yeah, yeah,
we're gonna get He's gonna take a pie home with it. Well, Jason,
they did have fifteen percent off frozen pies.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Oh that's true. Hey, you know what, you should call
back and get one too. Okay, yeah, yeah cool.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Uh so let's go Game of the Week.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Man, Lions and the Ravens exit out bout a Fresco exit,
swelling down The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Carmon. Coming up next more from the NFL, including
our upset special Pixel the Week.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
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