October 24, 2023 • 34 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to officiating issues in the NFL. NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the guys to react to all the biggest storylines of Week 7. Plus, Jason breaks down why the Dolphins are facing unfair levels of criticism.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
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be so right now here we are. We got Game
seven for the Phillies and the Diamondbacks. Looks like the
Rangers are gonna be go of the World Series. They
lead the Astros eight to two. That shop Dusty, You know,
(01:06):
Dusty Baker. All he does is lose Game sevens. It's
all he does.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
He and Doc Rivers have something to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Meanwhile, Monday Night football, it has been all Minnesota. Because
it's been all Minnesota. They lead the Niners now sixteen
to seven. Midway through the third quarter. As you're stived,
the sayer say, it's unfortunately been a huge night for
Jordan Addison Kurky unfortunately or what you heard I said,
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unfortunately because and there and there there it is. That's
gonna be his third bleeping touchdown of the night. Uh
you know, I'm up thirty something and fell on just
Jordan Addison just can't go crazy?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And what do I say, Luggy goes crazy? He stole that.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Should have been interception, really and ran sixty yards for
a time I couldn't catch that.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
You had to let that go through.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
That was when I knew, I said, you gotta be kidding.
That is when you turn to the person next to
you and you say stabby with for right in the eye.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Right in the eye.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So, the Vikings are on the three yard line facing
third and goal. They tried the tush push on first
down and it didn't work. And for all of the
questions about the tush push, we'll get into the Eagles
who want to complain every five seconds. Don't ban the play.
It's like the stop saying that they're gonna ban it. Uh,
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you just saw one reason why the tush push was
able to be stopped. And one thing you're starting to
see teams try to do is anticipate the snap and
jump the snap. And you saw defensive tackle with the Niners.
I couldn't tell who it was.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It just happened.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Jump the snap and Kirk Cousins catches the ball and
is tackled in his tracks. Okay, so that's one way
to stop it. You're gonna start seeing that from a
lot of teams. We're gonna try to jump the snap
and land on your quarterback. And look, I've said, the
thing that's gonna stop the tush push is an injury
to a quarterback because you're pushing this through and Jalen
Hurts been able to stay healthy so far. But defenses
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are now gonna do all they can, whether it's the
Robert Sala eleven kisses on the quarterback to something like
this where we're gonna jump the pile to try to
get to the quarterback. Your quarterback's gonna get hurt, and
that's gonna stop the touch push. Jalen Hurts is gonna
get hurt trying to do this. He's gonna have to
come out. Look what happens on this the defense. The
two defensive tackles leap over, they leap on top, they
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land on top of him. He's gonna get hurt. He's
gonna have to come out, and that's gonna be the
end of the touch push. But while that's going on,
you could see on that replay not only just how
you can stop it, but why it works for the
Eagles and not for anybody else. Kirk Cousins gets the
snap and takes about ten years, so he tries to
go forward. But that's why they have zero rushing touchouts.
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That was the graphic before he took that first step snap.
They've yet to score a rushing touchdown this season.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Watch the Eagles. We've talked about this the last couple
of weeks. Jalen Hurts gets the snap and is going
forward immediately. It's almost like a dance. It's as simultaneous.
I have the ball, I'm going forward. Kirk Cousins gets
the ball, stops, checks his Apple watch, sees what time
it was. Texas wife to say, hey, is target open late.
I want to get a couple of shirts. If not,
then hey, let me order some stuff on Patagonia. And
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then he tries to go into the end zone and
they push him behind, but they're not there to push
him from behind in time and he gets tackled by
the DT who jumps over the top. So that's the
big thing, is that they're aggressive in the timing of
the plays. They get right up to the line and
he goes. It's an extension of the Brady quarterback sneak
where the they would know when the Patriots would say,
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let's get right up to the line fast, and I'm
sneaking it and it's easy the time.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
The spot and I roll.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Right next to the center before you can set up
and that and this is an extension of that. It's
the timing of the snap going forward right away. Everybody
is firing is one. It's about timing on this play.
And you saw now the defensive way they're going to
try to stop it, and it's going to result in
an injury to quarterback, I'm telling you, and that's going
to stop the push push. But you also saw that, Hey,
you can't just run it without having it down like
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a Swiss watch. It's the timing of the play and
they don't have it.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, but until someone truly does get hurt. And I
know we had a couple of guys get banged up
a little bit from the giants who are already teetering
towards missing time. Uh, and that's fun. Like, but until
someone gets hurt, you can't just say.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
All right, we're gonna outlaw this because the rest of
you are a bunch of dopes and can't do it.
Now that they need to keep wagging their fingers about
how to great they are and just stop. Yeah they're
they're being stupid. I did enjoy this particular iteration. I mean,
we saw Miles Garrett on the field goal block yesterday
do the same thing.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
And here it was a road warrior shoulder tackle to
Kirk Cousins, who, as you said, baked a loaf of
bread before deciding to push forward. And we saw in
the second down play the inability to run the ball
in tight situations.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
So you get that. But yeah, it's the unstoppable play.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
This is not a programming glitch like Madden and the
you know I'm gonna make Gretzky's head bleed where if
you went and did the move behind the net, there
was no way to stop it, which was recognized pretty
quickly by people playing the games. All right, this is
a problem, like there's no possible way to say, here,
stop it. All these other teams fail at it time
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and time again. If you figured out a competitive advantage.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Too bad.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
If anybody else could do it, nobody would complain and
they wouldn't want it banned. But the reason there's so
much push to have the tush push band is because
nobody else can do it like that, and it's wait, tea.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Has an advantage. I know it's not, but that's why
there wouldn't be the call for it. There wouldn't be
called if other teams could do it. If I'm the Eagles,
I want other teams to be able to do it.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
To some teams that have done it, I mean it's
not one hundred percent, right, like the Eagles are damn
near or at one hundred percent. Yeah, No, pairs have
done it a few times and did it with justin Fields. Yeah,
you've seen it. A few other teams have done it.
I don't have full stats, but we've certainly seen it used,
but most teams have failed to execute it. Now you
can always do what everybody doesn't talk about, how strong
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and how Jalen Hurbs doesn't skip leg day. But you've
got a good veteran offensive line and guess what, they
probably spent a lot of time perfecting it.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
So decide how you're going to use your practices.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Right, Oh, this is where some of those practices that
you negotiated out of your CBA might be helpful.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Sure, And it's a lot of contact, it's a lot
of bodies, it's a lot of pressure. I get it.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Even Jason Kelsey talking about it and what that massive humanity,
no question about it. But because you can't do something,
it's like, you know what, you don't have Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Do you just quit?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'm done?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Way? You know what we've we've got a we didn't
have any Pro bowlers last year. Don't we just fold?
Let's go pack it up? Time to go? You know
you know what?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Those guys can't play against it? Yes, Why they're better?
Tyreek Hill can't play against us? Why he's faster, he's
too fast.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
We can't.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's too much him, it's too much of an advantage,
but no, I am gonna be I am serious about that.
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mean this, the Eagles need to stop yapping about this
play because the more oxygen they give to this story,
the more teams want it banned, the more owners are
gonna go crazy about banning this play, and it's going
to wind up getting banned and gonna lose an advantage.
They love talking about it, they love talking about Nick Sirianni.
What was this quote yesterday? Where's the camera? If everybody
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could do it, everybody would do it. All you're doing
is inflaming the situation. I get you want to crow
about it because you figured out a way to do
something that nobody else has done. But you know how
most teams would deal with this. Hey, we're not talking
about it letting. Don't make this a thing, because when
you make it a thing, you make it something the
NFL has to deal with, right, you know, I don't
make it something that I need to deal with.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Don't put this on my if you're if you're if
you're the Eagles, you don't want to put it on
Roger Goodell's desk. You don't want to put it on
the other owners. We're gonna vote, we're gonna ban this
because you know what, it should have been banned after.
If you look talking about banning, it should have been
banned after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
It wasn't that big a deal. So they voted and
they kept it for this year. But now because teams
can't stop it and the Eagles are waving their finger
in everybody's face about it, guess what, it's gonna get
banned and it's going to be their fault. This is where, hey,
you know what, my name's Bennett and I ain't in it, right,
that's my My name is Paul.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
It's between y'all. Whatever you want, don't keep giving it out.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And it might be too late because you have everybody
that wants to talk about it because they want to
they want to brag about what they do, and I.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Understand that, but this is a play that's given you
a huge advantage. Look at what the Patriots did for
twenty years. Did they find ways around things? Absolutely? Look
at the way if you ever saw his rule book,
it was dog ear like, yeah, herbage, parsed like like
you were doing an English doctorate. Did Bill Belichick ever
at a press conference set, yeah, well, you know, I
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know the rule on that, and we can do this, this, this, this, this, No.
But he knew how to manipulate things that were legal,
whether it was the play clock. You heard that a
long time. You heard a lot of special teams coordators
talk about the play clock. What Belichick would do on
certain plays, be able to manipulate the play clock, and
but he never talked about, never addressed it. And you
know what, these things stayed in the NFL. No one banned,
no one talked about, never came up. But now the
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Eagles are.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Like, ah, you can't stop and keep it owners gonna go. Yeah,
now it's gone. Are you happy now?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
The formation that Belwich ran and then the Ravens and
everybody started complaining about it, and so that play, that operation, Uh,
in their offense got got out lawed, and so that
that's it. Takes a little bit of juice from one
or two well respected teams. That's all you need is
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one or two guys to start to champion that. But
as the Eagles, you know, peacock about it a bit.
Just go out about your business, make your plays, keep
the touchdowns rolling, keep your guys healthy. Ye right, don't
get rolled up and we'll see. I mean, I was
waiting for a big back body drop. The next time
you think the center is going to be better about
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and he stands up back body. That brings it full
circle to Yes, you're gonna see a quarterback get hurt,
maybe Jalen hurts. Because teams are going to try to
do crazy stuff. But they're also gonna sit here and say,
oh yeah, you want to brag about that play. You're
gonna get a little something something here at the bottom
of pile. You're a little something something on a play.
You want to brag about that.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Remember he was giving him one of these.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
More but more.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
The more time that goes on, that you have more
of the Eagles saying a teams are gonna go all right,
let's see how Let's see how great your quarterback is
going forward. If he gets a little something he should
that we want to go a little over the top
with because I know that's how football works. Whenever you
boast about stuff things, you get hit hard and you
suddenly get hey and and this is where quarterbacks always
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talk to their teams, go hey, stop you're talking, man,
because you know what, I'm the guy that's gonna have
to deal with the ramifications of you, you know, yapp
in the whole time. That's how it goes, right. I'm
not saying it's a good thing, because it's not. But
that's how it goes in sports. Oh you think you're good,
you're good yapping about Oh, Nick siriann where's the camera?
Where's the camera? Hey, how's your quarterback feeling? Where's the camera?
Nick Sirianni. That's what's gonna happen because I know football
and these guys know football too. But still they can't
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help themselves the I know of maybe because they lost
the Super Bowl, they lost to the Jets.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I don't know if you losts of the Jets get
really you keep getting it.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Everybody keeps the machine fed, right, It's like the Taylor
Swift stuff. They show her move on right, you don't
like it, blocker block mentions her. How do we how
do we get Taylor Swift banned?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
But legitimate?
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Like people you don't like it, don't watch and if
you can't do it, you know, too bad. You hope
you don't have to face them or another team that
does a reasonable fact simile thereof. In the interim from
Sirianni and everybody else, worry about the fact that you
bludgeon the dolphins, right, everybody's hurt and whatever else you
were missing, guys, you're missing guys, talk about how you
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bludging them and ran over them instead of worrying about
the goal line situation.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Hopefully you're listening about the tush push in the last
few minutes, because that's all you need to know. How
to stop it, what's gonna happen next, and what not
to do if you want to keep doing it. That's
everything about it covered in the last few minutes The
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Speaker 6 (13:51):
We have more.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
NFL on the way.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Coming up next, we have more from this game where hey,
wait a minute, what happened to the forty nine ers
of the greatest team in the world. Plus we could
have a little bit of a brew ha, a little
rootbarb starting in Houston with the Rangers up big in
the sixth inning. I'll keep it right here. Happy Monday.
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon. This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
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tickets today at Breeders Cup dot com. Well, a big
moment in the Monday night game moments ago, TJ. Hockinson
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goes down blocking on a play. He comes out of
the game. He is helped off, did kind of walk
off under his own power, but it was a lower
right leg, right foot type injury and he was taken
out of the game. And now the Vikings look like
they're gonna have to navigate the rest of this way
without TJ. Hockinson. They are leading right now nineteen to fourteen.
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And before we get into big NFL stuff, boy, a
win by the Vikings tonight would certainly put a damper
on the Brock party. And the Niners are the greatest
team at Brock Purty is really a combination of Joe
Montana and Tom Brady and his team.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Suddenly it's hey, wait a minute, Wait a minute, Maybe
it's not a fat accompany here for the Niners getting
all the way to the super Bowl. Hang on a second,
Hang on a second. It is only the end of
week seven, so I mean plenty of football to we had.
The defense has been giving up big plays all night long,
so that has been a curiosity. But I did see
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something in the betting world and trying to find the
data point because it was ridiculous talking about the number
of teams that had more than seventy percent of the
public bets went Owen seven against spread yesterday and well
with the forty nine ers, let's go.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Looks like Hockinson is going to try to make his
way back into the game. We'll give you more on
that as we see. It looks like he's moved around
on the sideline better than he was coming off the field.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But right now, joining us on the hotline to help
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is taking time away from yet another Ravens touchdown against
the Lions to join us tonight.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
What's happening, Jay?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
How are you? Bud?
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Hey? I was on the under in that one, buddy, Yeah,
that was you know what though, I mean it's still
actually until that eighty yard scamper by Gus Edwards, I
still thought I had a prayer, but that pretty much
and then that led to thirty five nothing with like
half the game still a go, and I was like, yeah,
I'm bleeping but yeah, hetty stuff from the Ravens man.
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That was that was quite a performance. And I thought
that would be a much closer game, and I thought
it would be at least two points more low scoring.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Most importantly, all right, so you should do a show
with al Michael's I think the references.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So now was this.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Was this more Hey, the Ravens are really bleeping good
or was it Hey, it just wasn't the Lion's day.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
And this happens.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
You know, Look, that's the best this offense has looked
under Todd Monkin by a country mouth. Not that Lamar
Jackson hasn't been playing at another worldly level because he has,
but to have everything sort of coalesce at once. And
they had eight explosive plays by seven different players and
none of them was Lamar Jackson. So like, that's not
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usually Ravens football. Like if it's a day where they
have that many plays over yeah, seven different players accounted
for ten total plays over twenty yards. They average nine
point one yards per play in the NFL game. I
mean they had five hundred yards plus of total offense
and guys, they only ran fifty five plays, So that
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was next level. Do I think they can sustain that
every week, even against lesser opponents. No, Nobody averages nine
point one yards per play in the NFL, not even
the Mighty in the Miami Dolphins. So but certainly it's
a confidence builder for them. It's it's going to give them,
you know, a foundation. And it was a day where
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everybody made plays and everybody felt good and everybody had
a role in this new offense that had kind of
been in fits and starts. So and the defense looked
they don't give up, you know, they don't give up
touchdowns since ro qwand Smith came to town. You look
at their offensive touchdowns allowed versus everybody else in the league,
and they're they're you know, they're on their own levels.
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So yeah, they're a very good football team. And that
was the most complete game they'd played at home in
a long long time.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, a lot of votes at Chicago's still missing Roquan Smith.
All right, you mentioned the Almighty Dolphins. They fall two
touchdown deficit to the Eagles. Eagles crowing everybody happy, you
chug it up as all right, there's a lot of
guys heard it's just the buzzsaw or based on pass schedule.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Is your eyebrow raised on the Dolphins?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Well, I mean there's obviously questions being asked about the
Dolphins now in the highest reaches of the game. Right
the Dolphins is a feel good story, you know, two
of the guy. Everybody can rally behind that franchise no
longer being the second rate, you know, the expectation not
being boy could they feniggle their way into the final
(19:48):
WARLD card spot and save somebody's job? Like, no, it's
you know, when they get in the playoffs, how many
games are going to win? Because they're supposed to be
a team now that's winning games in the playoffs. So
are they going to meet those expectations? Geez? You know,
you'd look at the Bills game. You'd look at the
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game last night and say, when they have to take
a jump up in weight class, it's not going so
well for them. You kind of get cowboys vibes off
them a little bit. Cowboys It means to me like cowboys,
which is not where you want to be. Like, I
think they're more likable, you know, I think they're generally
(20:31):
less odious, you know what I mean? Like I think
a lot of people are just done with Cowboys hype,
perpetual Cowboys hype, you know, Jerry Jones BS. Whereas I
don't think we have Cowboys fatigue, I mean as Dolphins
fatigue yet. But yeah, I'm kind of wondering how real
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they are. And you know, when they have to go
on the road, even the game against New England that
was struggle for them, you know. Now, I think they'll
take care of business against them at home this weekend,
especially if the weather report, you know, is a little
bit sticky. But I don't know, guys, Yeah, I think
it's fair to have questions about Miami when you stack
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them come amongst you know, teams you think can do
damage in the postseason.
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Speaker 4 (21:23):
All right for the eagle side of it?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Right, still another day, another day talking about the Tush
push the Brotherly show. We watch the Vikings try to
run it, not run it successfully in the game against
the Niners. You know, there's all this talk about always
the play going to get banned? Is the play going
to get banned. The Eagles won't stop talking about it.
And I look at it as this play is going
to stop being used when a quarterback gets hurt, because
that's how this is. Defenses are going to sell out
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and do all kinds of crazy things to stop it.
They're going to try to leap the snap and do this,
and eventually a quarterback is going to get hurting. Teams
are going to say it's not worth it. It's not
worth losing our guy for that. That's how I see
it ending.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Well, I could be and look, I think, you know,
you've already got a quarterback and hurts who when you
look at you know, his trunk and core and what
he can squat and how he's built, it's already a
little different, you know. And he got a center who's
probably going to the Hall of Fame, right you know.
So they they've yeah, and it's their thing, and they
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obviously executed at a higher level. And I don't know
how much you practice it, just to your point, it's
kind of high collision that you're practicing, but they seem
to have mastered it. I don't think it's going to
be litigated out of the game. I mean the fact
that it's been legal for so long that people were
shocked to find out how long it's been legal. You
know that. I don't think now all of a sudden
that one team is exploiting it to a degree that
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nobody else can you say, well, let's take that away
from them. And yeah, I mean most teams aren't willing
to do it for a multitude of reasons, one being
their quarterback's not built like that, and you know they
they it's just not their thing. I mean, it certainly
(23:04):
makes Jalen Hurts rushing props very intriguing week to week
because even though they've set them lower because you're not
running as much and the option stuff isn't nearly as prevalent,
if they get into you know what I mean, if
they get into two or three third and fourth and
short situations, you could pick up an easy four or
five carries there. And then if they're winning games, and
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pretty much all they've done the last two years is
win games, right, then you might get you know, three meals,
so you know, anything around nine and a half. I
think he just have to go over because there's almost
six or seven built into the cake, right, and then
he's going to take off and scramble at least once
or twice, and then he probably will have at least
one or two design runs, maybe inside the red zone.
(23:47):
So yeah, I think it's an interesting That's That's sort
of how I'm looking at the brotherly shoves, Like they
keep setting his rushing totals around nine.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I'm going to keep going over Jason's met show they
might have. Yeah, well let's talk about the over on
the rushing tools. Hey, all it all plays.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I got no problem with then you look, you got
to take different angles. It's Jason locking for with us
one five to seven from me, that's right.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
What about what about the people that rely on this
forget about the NFL?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
All right, so you can have the picket sign that
talks about keeping that play alive for your your hurts bets.
What about all the people that want to go picket
park avenue over officiating calls and end of game situations
and a lot of hand ringing after yesterday's games.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Well, it's bad. I mean it's not. It's it's it's not.
It's the opposite of boiler plate. Right. You've got all
these crews with all these different interpretations, and you know,
these guys love the call offensive holding. These guys love
the call you know, pass interference. And these guys, you know,
look at their career mark and they you know, home
(24:56):
team wins sixty eight percent. Yeah, I wish it was
more uniform. I understand that, you know, some of these
are bank bank judgment calls. But like the end of
the Cleveland Indianapolis came was really that was one where
I'm just like, my god, I just kind of felt like,
no matter what happened at the end, there they were
(25:19):
gonna fell flag, you know what I mean, Like the
Browns were gonna get they were a cat with nine lives. Yeah,
there's and certainly last night that the imbalance in flags
and some of those judgment calls, yeah, I think it
was you know, it was dubious. And these there's just
(25:41):
not enough quality officials. There's not enough people who know
what they're doing from an officiating standpoint in the League office. Right,
some of the best minds in officiating work for networks.
They don't they don't work for the League office, you
know what I mean. They're not going to sit in
those rooms for chump change. Sure, you know what I mean.
Trying to tell the guys on the field to get
right and what to get wrong. So you've had that
(26:02):
brain drain, you haven't really had, you know, another wave.
You've had a lot of guys also retire, just plane retire,
not retire to go into you know, officiating booths. And
I just think the quality isn't good enough. But like
replay is not going to be the answer, right, we
tried that after the Saints Scott screwed and how long
(26:24):
did that last before that was a total joke, right,
And they weren't going to call anything on PI from
the league office, right, They were just gonna let stand
whatever happened on the field. So I don't know what
the answer is, other than I'd like to think technology
could become more and more involved in terms of real
time you know, ways to spot the ball and having
(26:44):
some sort of science and more science involved in this
that takes away from some of the judgment calls, I guess.
And then more full time officials who all they do
year round is trained to be NFL officials. You know,
these franchises are worth five six billion dollars now is
it too much to ask that the guy officiating the
(27:04):
game is invested in this full time year round, you
know what I mean, and not splitting time with working
at his hardware store that he owns, or you know,
being Matt Locke.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
You know, half the years, Wow, guy solving crime, a
bunch of lawyers going.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Arounding small crimes courts or whatever the hell these guys
do you know working in it. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Whatever it is, Like, is it.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Too much to ask that they be compensated and they
be put in a position where their entire livelihoods and
careers are tied to officiating and adjudicating these games? Because
God knows who we could use it.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking for That is at
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one oh five seven the fan in Baltimore Jays always
buddy appreciated.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Man, I have a great night.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
You guys do the same.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Thank you say about it?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well, I would see that that I wouldn't mind. Like,
if you have an official that's solving crimes in the ard,
like that should be a show, right you could you
make that a show that the star is a guy
and it's half the year you're talking about him solving
crimes as an official and then he's also an official,
and then it mixes he's solving football issues or sports
(28:12):
crimes as an official sports crime.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, now that's a sick guy.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I mean the NFL would I don't think they would
like that, but it would just start creeping down into
you know, adjudicating soccer things like you you don't get
referees to a feel how.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Do you how do you fix that?
Speaker 5 (28:28):
No, I would dig I'd watch that as hey, this
guy is a referee, but he also solves crimes in
the off season.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I saw actually a breakdown of the occupations. I mean
a lot of high, high powered folks that are a.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Lot of returneys, a lot of them lawyers. Yeah, but
I mean, but if you're an investigator, man, that'd be
pretty cool. What do you investigate fraud?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
But I saw a story going around. I was trying
to find it.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Well, come, you couldn't investigate your penalty flag on that
obvious holding call the gate of the Jets interception against
the Chiefs on Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
But the video of the head official coming over going
are you sure? Are you sure that's what you saw?
Like the fact that we've got that kind of situation
not just hey, what number?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yeah? All right? No, okay, it's like, are you sure
that's what you saw? Get a lot of okay, you're sure? Okay, Rachel.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
The problem is he needs one of those play cards
in front of his mouth, the other when he's talking
to another official.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yes, yeah, right, so we can't. Are you sure you're
right about this? Before I go on the PA and
make this official.
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Speaker 1 (30:06):
Home run by the Rangers make it eleven to three,
another one for Garcia. Let's see how wouldn't you just
bounce the ball into him at this point? Let's see
how he crosses the plate. I'm gonna walk over, gonna
step on the plate. Now, everything is fine, Everything is fine.
Eleven to three Rangers with the lead, top of the
(30:28):
eighth inning. Certainly looks like the Rangers are going to
the World Series.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Did he find a plastic cup and envelope in front
of his locker at any point the last couple of days.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Man, I'll tell you he's like, he's like becoming the
new Randy Arose Arena Like suddenly in the playoffs, he's unbeatable.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
One of the greats, no question.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Now, we'll have more on the baseball game coming up
in a bit. Right now, twenty two to seventeen, Vikings
lead the Niners, but seven minutes to go in the fourth,
the Niners have the football near midfield. They just ran
a quarterback sneak. I don't know that Perdy got there.
It looks like he's gonna be short. So they will
have a decision to make on fourth them. But we
(31:08):
talked to Jason lock And for a little bit about
the Dolphins a few minutes ago. Certainly, you know the
marquee game of the week this week with the Dolphins
in the in the Eagles and the Eagles win the game,
and he says, you know, I'm kind of getting Cowboys
vibes from the Dolphins a little bit here, and I
can see that, and I get it. But I'm gonna
say something, and you know, I believe it because I'm
a Jets fan. The Dolphins are unfairly picked on by
(31:31):
media and analysts, and I don't know why. Nothing they
do is ever good enough to a tongue of Iloa.
Right now is the odds on leader to be NFL MVP.
And still you get questions like Mike McDaniel, got do
you think two is a system quarterback?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
As two are really this good? You see analysts all
the time speak down about tour. They don't believe into it,
UNBLA drugs, the guys one of the leaders for MVP
for a reason. Yet it doesn't matter second to Mahomes
right now, right yet, it doesn't matter. You know, two
is not good and the Dolphins aren't good enough for
the Dolphins aren't physical enough for the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Don't do this, you know what.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
The Dolphins are five and two. They're fine. The Dolphins
are fine. There's nothing wrong with the Dolphins. Now they've
lost a couple of games. Guess what, everybody else, even
the best teams in the NFL, have all lost a
couple of games, but nobody is going crazy about it.
But for the Dolphins, it's that unfair criticism where I honestly,
I feel like it's it's almost personal, where analysts in
(32:23):
the media like, I'm not gonna be happy until the
Dolphins stink and to it gets benched, and then I'll
be happy. That's kind of the the vitriol that I
get from people about about Dolphins, Like you're really over
the time. It's only the Dolphins are one and six,
and boy, they're really not achieving. You know, they're they're
they're missing who probably could have been the MVP of
(32:45):
the first five weeks in Devon a Chan.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
He's gonna come back in a couple of weeks. And
they put up all kinds of point they're fine, But
yet you'd believe, like the Dolphins are awful and that's
not fair. They are unfairly criticized by the media in
general as a whole. Yeah, I think part of it
is you celebrate the super genius until you don't when
it goes back to you and I here at Fox
sports radio and chronicling the greatness and the rise and
(33:10):
the fall, the ebb and flow of the Golden State Warriors.
Remember they were the greatest thing in the world, revolutionizing
basketball for about eighteen months, and then everybody was done
with it because.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
They ruined the game.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Likewise, Mike McDaniel, we celebrate him his quirkiness, the way
he answers questions until we don't. And that's the collective
media for us. I mean, last week was the best.
I'm gonna throw this podium at you. I'm gonna turn
over talk about.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Too like that.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Our guys are doing great things, but you've got injuries galore,
and I know a lot of teams have them. Dolphins
are missing a lot of starters. And don't forget a
week ago when the forty nine Ers and Eagles lost.
Look at all the poison pens that came out for
Jalen Hurds and Brock Purdy immediately, Like these guys couldn't
play football because they lost the game.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
And the Dolphins are getting a lot of that right now.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Really unfair. We have more more on this, More big
quarterback news out of the NFL and a shocker in
Major League baseball.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
We got it for you. Next, right here, Jason and Mike.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
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seven for the Phillies and the Diamondbacks. Looks like the
Rangers are gonna be go of the World Series. They
lead the Astros eight to two. That shop Dusty, You know,
(01:06):
Dusty Baker. All he does is lose Game sevens. It's
all he does.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
He and Doc Rivers have something to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Meanwhile, Monday Night football, it has been all Minnesota. Because
it's been all Minnesota. They lead the Niners now sixteen
to seven. Midway through the third quarter. As you're stived,
the sayer say, it's unfortunately been a huge night for
Jordan Addison Kurky unfortunately or what you heard I said,
(01:35):
unfortunately because and there and there there it is. That's
gonna be his third bleeping touchdown of the night. Uh
you know, I'm up thirty something and fell on just
Jordan Addison just can't go crazy?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And what do I say, Luggy goes crazy? He stole that.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Should have been interception, really and ran sixty yards for
a time I couldn't catch that.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
You had to let that go through.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
That was when I knew, I said, you gotta be kidding.
That is when you turn to the person next to
you and you say stabby with for right in the eye.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Right in the eye.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So, the Vikings are on the three yard line facing
third and goal. They tried the tush push on first
down and it didn't work. And for all of the
questions about the tush push, we'll get into the Eagles
who want to complain every five seconds. Don't ban the play.
It's like the stop saying that they're gonna ban it. Uh,
(02:24):
you just saw one reason why the tush push was
able to be stopped. And one thing you're starting to
see teams try to do is anticipate the snap and
jump the snap. And you saw defensive tackle with the Niners.
I couldn't tell who it was.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It just happened.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Jump the snap and Kirk Cousins catches the ball and
is tackled in his tracks. Okay, so that's one way
to stop it. You're gonna start seeing that from a
lot of teams. We're gonna try to jump the snap
and land on your quarterback. And look, I've said, the
thing that's gonna stop the tush push is an injury
to a quarterback because you're pushing this through and Jalen
Hurts been able to stay healthy so far. But defenses
(03:01):
are now gonna do all they can, whether it's the
Robert Sala eleven kisses on the quarterback to something like
this where we're gonna jump the pile to try to
get to the quarterback. Your quarterback's gonna get hurt, and
that's gonna stop the touch push. Jalen Hurts is gonna
get hurt trying to do this. He's gonna have to
come out. Look what happens on this the defense. The
two defensive tackles leap over, they leap on top, they
(03:22):
land on top of him. He's gonna get hurt. He's
gonna have to come out, and that's gonna be the
end of the touch push. But while that's going on,
you could see on that replay not only just how
you can stop it, but why it works for the
Eagles and not for anybody else. Kirk Cousins gets the
snap and takes about ten years, so he tries to
go forward. But that's why they have zero rushing touchouts.
(03:43):
That was the graphic before he took that first step snap.
They've yet to score a rushing touchdown this season.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Watch the Eagles. We've talked about this the last couple
of weeks. Jalen Hurts gets the snap and is going
forward immediately. It's almost like a dance. It's as simultaneous.
I have the ball, I'm going forward. Kirk Cousins gets
the ball, stops, checks his Apple watch, sees what time
it was. Texas wife to say, hey, is target open late.
I want to get a couple of shirts. If not,
then hey, let me order some stuff on Patagonia. And
(04:10):
then he tries to go into the end zone and
they push him behind, but they're not there to push
him from behind in time and he gets tackled by
the DT who jumps over the top. So that's the
big thing, is that they're aggressive in the timing of
the plays. They get right up to the line and
he goes. It's an extension of the Brady quarterback sneak
where the they would know when the Patriots would say,
(04:32):
let's get right up to the line fast, and I'm
sneaking it and it's easy the time.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
The spot and I roll.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Right next to the center before you can set up
and that and this is an extension of that. It's
the timing of the snap going forward right away. Everybody
is firing is one. It's about timing on this play.
And you saw now the defensive way they're going to
try to stop it, and it's going to result in
an injury to quarterback, I'm telling you, and that's going
to stop the push push. But you also saw that, Hey,
you can't just run it without having it down like
(04:59):
a Swiss watch. It's the timing of the play and
they don't have it.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, but until someone truly does get hurt. And I
know we had a couple of guys get banged up
a little bit from the giants who are already teetering
towards missing time. Uh, and that's fun. Like, but until
someone gets hurt, you can't just say.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
All right, we're gonna outlaw this because the rest of
you are a bunch of dopes and can't do it.
Now that they need to keep wagging their fingers about
how to great they are and just stop. Yeah they're
they're being stupid. I did enjoy this particular iteration. I mean,
we saw Miles Garrett on the field goal block yesterday
do the same thing.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
And here it was a road warrior shoulder tackle to
Kirk Cousins, who, as you said, baked a loaf of
bread before deciding to push forward. And we saw in
the second down play the inability to run the ball
in tight situations.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
So you get that. But yeah, it's the unstoppable play.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
This is not a programming glitch like Madden and the
you know I'm gonna make Gretzky's head bleed where if
you went and did the move behind the net, there
was no way to stop it, which was recognized pretty
quickly by people playing the games. All right, this is
a problem, like there's no possible way to say, here,
stop it. All these other teams fail at it time
(06:18):
and time again. If you figured out a competitive advantage.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Too bad.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
If anybody else could do it, nobody would complain and
they wouldn't want it banned. But the reason there's so
much push to have the tush push band is because
nobody else can do it like that, and it's wait, tea.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Has an advantage. I know it's not, but that's why
there wouldn't be the call for it. There wouldn't be
called if other teams could do it. If I'm the Eagles,
I want other teams to be able to do it.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
To some teams that have done it, I mean it's
not one hundred percent, right, like the Eagles are damn
near or at one hundred percent. Yeah, No, pairs have
done it a few times and did it with justin Fields. Yeah,
you've seen it. A few other teams have done it.
I don't have full stats, but we've certainly seen it used,
but most teams have failed to execute it. Now you
can always do what everybody doesn't talk about, how strong
(07:13):
and how Jalen Hurbs doesn't skip leg day. But you've
got a good veteran offensive line and guess what, they
probably spent a lot of time perfecting it.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
So decide how you're going to use your practices.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Right, Oh, this is where some of those practices that
you negotiated out of your CBA might be helpful.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Sure, And it's a lot of contact, it's a lot
of bodies, it's a lot of pressure. I get it.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Even Jason Kelsey talking about it and what that massive humanity,
no question about it. But because you can't do something,
it's like, you know what, you don't have Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Do you just quit?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'm done?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Way? You know what we've we've got a we didn't
have any Pro bowlers last year. Don't we just fold?
Let's go pack it up? Time to go? You know
you know what?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Those guys can't play against it? Yes, Why they're better?
Tyreek Hill can't play against us? Why he's faster, he's
too fast.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
We can't.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's too much him, it's too much of an advantage,
but no, I am gonna be I am serious about that.
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(08:29):
mean this, the Eagles need to stop yapping about this
play because the more oxygen they give to this story,
the more teams want it banned, the more owners are
gonna go crazy about banning this play, and it's going
to wind up getting banned and gonna lose an advantage.
They love talking about it, they love talking about Nick Sirianni.
What was this quote yesterday? Where's the camera? If everybody
(08:50):
could do it, everybody would do it. All you're doing
is inflaming the situation. I get you want to crow
about it because you figured out a way to do
something that nobody else has done. But you know how
most teams would deal with this. Hey, we're not talking
about it letting. Don't make this a thing, because when
you make it a thing, you make it something the
NFL has to deal with, right, you know, I don't
make it something that I need to deal with.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Don't put this on my if you're if you're if
you're the Eagles, you don't want to put it on
Roger Goodell's desk. You don't want to put it on
the other owners. We're gonna vote, we're gonna ban this
because you know what, it should have been banned after.
If you look talking about banning, it should have been
banned after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
It wasn't that big a deal. So they voted and
they kept it for this year. But now because teams
can't stop it and the Eagles are waving their finger
in everybody's face about it, guess what, it's gonna get
banned and it's going to be their fault. This is where, hey,
you know what, my name's Bennett and I ain't in it, right,
that's my My name is Paul.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
It's between y'all. Whatever you want, don't keep giving it out.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And it might be too late because you have everybody
that wants to talk about it because they want to
they want to brag about what they do, and I.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Understand that, but this is a play that's given you
a huge advantage. Look at what the Patriots did for
twenty years. Did they find ways around things? Absolutely? Look
at the way if you ever saw his rule book,
it was dog ear like, yeah, herbage, parsed like like
you were doing an English doctorate. Did Bill Belichick ever
at a press conference set, yeah, well, you know, I
(10:11):
know the rule on that, and we can do this, this, this, this, this, No.
But he knew how to manipulate things that were legal,
whether it was the play clock. You heard that a
long time. You heard a lot of special teams coordators
talk about the play clock. What Belichick would do on
certain plays, be able to manipulate the play clock, and
but he never talked about, never addressed it. And you
know what, these things stayed in the NFL. No one banned,
no one talked about, never came up. But now the
(10:33):
Eagles are.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Like, ah, you can't stop and keep it owners gonna go. Yeah,
now it's gone. Are you happy now?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
The formation that Belwich ran and then the Ravens and
everybody started complaining about it, and so that play, that operation, Uh,
in their offense got got out lawed, and so that
that's it. Takes a little bit of juice from one
or two well respected teams. That's all you need is
(11:00):
one or two guys to start to champion that. But
as the Eagles, you know, peacock about it a bit.
Just go out about your business, make your plays, keep
the touchdowns rolling, keep your guys healthy. Ye right, don't
get rolled up and we'll see. I mean, I was
waiting for a big back body drop. The next time
you think the center is going to be better about
(11:20):
and he stands up back body. That brings it full
circle to Yes, you're gonna see a quarterback get hurt,
maybe Jalen hurts. Because teams are going to try to
do crazy stuff. But they're also gonna sit here and say,
oh yeah, you want to brag about that play. You're
gonna get a little something something here at the bottom
of pile. You're a little something something on a play.
You want to brag about that.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Remember he was giving him one of these.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
More but more.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
The more time that goes on, that you have more
of the Eagles saying a teams are gonna go all right,
let's see how Let's see how great your quarterback is
going forward. If he gets a little something he should
that we want to go a little over the top
with because I know that's how football works. Whenever you
boast about stuff things, you get hit hard and you
suddenly get hey and and this is where quarterbacks always
(12:05):
talk to their teams, go hey, stop you're talking, man,
because you know what, I'm the guy that's gonna have
to deal with the ramifications of you, you know, yapp
in the whole time. That's how it goes, right. I'm
not saying it's a good thing, because it's not. But
that's how it goes in sports. Oh you think you're good,
you're good yapping about Oh, Nick siriann where's the camera?
Where's the camera? Hey, how's your quarterback feeling? Where's the camera?
Nick Sirianni. That's what's gonna happen because I know football
and these guys know football too. But still they can't
(12:28):
help themselves the I know of maybe because they lost
the Super Bowl, they lost to the Jets.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I don't know if you losts of the Jets get
really you keep getting it.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Everybody keeps the machine fed, right, It's like the Taylor
Swift stuff. They show her move on right, you don't
like it, blocker block mentions her. How do we how
do we get Taylor Swift banned?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
But legitimate?
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Like people you don't like it, don't watch and if
you can't do it, you know, too bad. You hope
you don't have to face them or another team that
does a reasonable fact simile thereof. In the interim from
Sirianni and everybody else, worry about the fact that you
bludgeon the dolphins, right, everybody's hurt and whatever else you
were missing, guys, you're missing guys, talk about how you
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bludging them and ran over them instead of worrying about
the goal line situation.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Hopefully you're listening about the tush push in the last
few minutes, because that's all you need to know. How
to stop it, what's gonna happen next, and what not
to do if you want to keep doing it. That's
everything about it covered in the last few minutes The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon Live
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Speaker 6 (13:51):
We have more.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
NFL on the way.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Coming up next, we have more from this game where hey,
wait a minute, what happened to the forty nine ers
of the greatest team in the world. Plus we could
have a little bit of a brew ha, a little
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Jason Smith, Mike Harmon. This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
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Speaker 1 (14:26):
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tickets today at Breeders Cup dot com. Well, a big
moment in the Monday night game moments ago, TJ. Hockinson
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goes down blocking on a play. He comes out of
the game. He is helped off, did kind of walk
off under his own power, but it was a lower
right leg, right foot type injury and he was taken
out of the game. And now the Vikings look like
they're gonna have to navigate the rest of this way
without TJ. Hockinson. They are leading right now nineteen to fourteen.
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And before we get into big NFL stuff, boy, a
win by the Vikings tonight would certainly put a damper
on the Brock party. And the Niners are the greatest
team at Brock Purty is really a combination of Joe
Montana and Tom Brady and his team.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Suddenly it's hey, wait a minute, Wait a minute, Maybe
it's not a fat accompany here for the Niners getting
all the way to the super Bowl. Hang on a second,
Hang on a second. It is only the end of
week seven, so I mean plenty of football to we had.
The defense has been giving up big plays all night long,
so that has been a curiosity. But I did see
(15:51):
something in the betting world and trying to find the
data point because it was ridiculous talking about the number
of teams that had more than seventy percent of the
public bets went Owen seven against spread yesterday and well
with the forty nine ers, let's go.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Looks like Hockinson is going to try to make his
way back into the game. We'll give you more on
that as we see. It looks like he's moved around
on the sideline better than he was coming off the field.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But right now, joining us on the hotline to help
us break down all the big news in the NFL
longtime odyssey Washington Post insider Jason lock and Fora, who
is taking time away from yet another Ravens touchdown against
the Lions to join us tonight.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
What's happening, Jay?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
How are you? Bud?
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Hey? I was on the under in that one, buddy, Yeah,
that was you know what though, I mean it's still
actually until that eighty yard scamper by Gus Edwards, I
still thought I had a prayer, but that pretty much
and then that led to thirty five nothing with like
half the game still a go, and I was like, yeah,
I'm bleeping but yeah, hetty stuff from the Ravens man.
(17:02):
That was that was quite a performance. And I thought
that would be a much closer game, and I thought
it would be at least two points more low scoring.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Most importantly, all right, so you should do a show
with al Michael's I think the references.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So now was this.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Was this more Hey, the Ravens are really bleeping good
or was it Hey, it just wasn't the Lion's day.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
And this happens.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
You know, Look, that's the best this offense has looked
under Todd Monkin by a country mouth. Not that Lamar
Jackson hasn't been playing at another worldly level because he has,
but to have everything sort of coalesce at once. And
they had eight explosive plays by seven different players and
none of them was Lamar Jackson. So like, that's not
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usually Ravens football. Like if it's a day where they
have that many plays over yeah, seven different players accounted
for ten total plays over twenty yards. They average nine
point one yards per play in the NFL game. I
mean they had five hundred yards plus of total offense
and guys, they only ran fifty five plays, So that
(18:15):
was next level. Do I think they can sustain that
every week, even against lesser opponents. No, Nobody averages nine
point one yards per play in the NFL, not even
the Mighty in the Miami Dolphins. So but certainly it's
a confidence builder for them. It's it's going to give them,
you know, a foundation. And it was a day where
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everybody made plays and everybody felt good and everybody had
a role in this new offense that had kind of
been in fits and starts. So and the defense looked
they don't give up, you know, they don't give up
touchdowns since ro qwand Smith came to town. You look
at their offensive touchdowns allowed versus everybody else in the league,
and they're they're you know, they're on their own levels.
(18:56):
So yeah, they're a very good football team. And that
was the most complete game they'd played at home in
a long long time.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, a lot of votes at Chicago's still missing Roquan Smith.
All right, you mentioned the Almighty Dolphins. They fall two
touchdown deficit to the Eagles. Eagles crowing everybody happy, you
chug it up as all right, there's a lot of
guys heard it's just the buzzsaw or based on pass schedule.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Is your eyebrow raised on the Dolphins?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Well, I mean there's obviously questions being asked about the
Dolphins now in the highest reaches of the game. Right
the Dolphins is a feel good story, you know, two
of the guy. Everybody can rally behind that franchise no
longer being the second rate, you know, the expectation not
being boy could they feniggle their way into the final
(19:48):
WARLD card spot and save somebody's job? Like, no, it's
you know, when they get in the playoffs, how many
games are going to win? Because they're supposed to be
a team now that's winning games in the playoffs. So
are they going to meet those expectations? Geez? You know,
you'd look at the Bills game. You'd look at the
(20:09):
game last night and say, when they have to take
a jump up in weight class, it's not going so
well for them. You kind of get cowboys vibes off
them a little bit. Cowboys It means to me like cowboys,
which is not where you want to be. Like, I
think they're more likable, you know, I think they're generally
(20:31):
less odious, you know what I mean? Like I think
a lot of people are just done with Cowboys hype,
perpetual Cowboys hype, you know, Jerry Jones BS. Whereas I
don't think we have Cowboys fatigue, I mean as Dolphins
fatigue yet. But yeah, I'm kind of wondering how real
(20:52):
they are. And you know, when they have to go
on the road, even the game against New England that
was struggle for them, you know. Now, I think they'll
take care of business against them at home this weekend,
especially if the weather report, you know, is a little
bit sticky. But I don't know, guys, Yeah, I think
it's fair to have questions about Miami when you stack
(21:14):
them come amongst you know, teams you think can do
damage in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Jason Locking for NFL Insider, our guest The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon Live from the TIREC dot Com studios.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
All right for the eagle side of it?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Right, still another day, another day talking about the Tush
push the Brotherly show. We watch the Vikings try to
run it, not run it successfully in the game against
the Niners. You know, there's all this talk about always
the play going to get banned? Is the play going
to get banned. The Eagles won't stop talking about it.
And I look at it as this play is going
to stop being used when a quarterback gets hurt, because
that's how this is. Defenses are going to sell out
(21:47):
and do all kinds of crazy things to stop it.
They're going to try to leap the snap and do this,
and eventually a quarterback is going to get hurting. Teams
are going to say it's not worth it. It's not
worth losing our guy for that. That's how I see
it ending.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Well, I could be and look, I think, you know,
you've already got a quarterback and hurts who when you
look at you know, his trunk and core and what
he can squat and how he's built, it's already a
little different, you know. And he got a center who's
probably going to the Hall of Fame, right you know.
So they they've yeah, and it's their thing, and they
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obviously executed at a higher level. And I don't know
how much you practice it, just to your point, it's
kind of high collision that you're practicing, but they seem
to have mastered it. I don't think it's going to
be litigated out of the game. I mean the fact
that it's been legal for so long that people were
shocked to find out how long it's been legal. You
know that. I don't think now all of a sudden
that one team is exploiting it to a degree that
(22:43):
nobody else can you say, well, let's take that away
from them. And yeah, I mean most teams aren't willing
to do it for a multitude of reasons, one being
their quarterback's not built like that, and you know they
they it's just not their thing. I mean, it certainly
(23:04):
makes Jalen Hurts rushing props very intriguing week to week
because even though they've set them lower because you're not
running as much and the option stuff isn't nearly as prevalent,
if they get into you know what I mean, if
they get into two or three third and fourth and
short situations, you could pick up an easy four or
five carries there. And then if they're winning games, and
(23:25):
pretty much all they've done the last two years is
win games, right, then you might get you know, three meals,
so you know, anything around nine and a half. I
think he just have to go over because there's almost
six or seven built into the cake, right, and then
he's going to take off and scramble at least once
or twice, and then he probably will have at least
one or two design runs, maybe inside the red zone.
(23:47):
So yeah, I think it's an interesting That's That's sort
of how I'm looking at the brotherly shoves, Like they
keep setting his rushing totals around nine.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I'm going to keep going over Jason's met show they
might have. Yeah, well let's talk about the over on
the rushing tools. Hey, all it all plays.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I got no problem with then you look, you got
to take different angles. It's Jason locking for with us
one five to seven from me, that's right.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
What about what about the people that rely on this
forget about the NFL?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
All right, so you can have the picket sign that
talks about keeping that play alive for your your hurts bets.
What about all the people that want to go picket
park avenue over officiating calls and end of game situations
and a lot of hand ringing after yesterday's games.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Well, it's bad. I mean it's not. It's it's it's not.
It's the opposite of boiler plate. Right. You've got all
these crews with all these different interpretations, and you know,
these guys love the call offensive holding. These guys love
the call you know, pass interference. And these guys, you know,
look at their career mark and they you know, home
(24:56):
team wins sixty eight percent. Yeah, I wish it was
more uniform. I understand that, you know, some of these
are bank bank judgment calls. But like the end of
the Cleveland Indianapolis came was really that was one where
I'm just like, my god, I just kind of felt like,
no matter what happened at the end, there they were
(25:19):
gonna fell flag, you know what I mean, Like the
Browns were gonna get they were a cat with nine lives. Yeah,
there's and certainly last night that the imbalance in flags
and some of those judgment calls, yeah, I think it
was you know, it was dubious. And these there's just
(25:41):
not enough quality officials. There's not enough people who know
what they're doing from an officiating standpoint in the League office. Right,
some of the best minds in officiating work for networks.
They don't they don't work for the League office, you
know what I mean. They're not going to sit in
those rooms for chump change. Sure, you know what I mean.
Trying to tell the guys on the field to get
right and what to get wrong. So you've had that
(26:02):
brain drain, you haven't really had, you know, another wave.
You've had a lot of guys also retire, just plane retire,
not retire to go into you know, officiating booths. And
I just think the quality isn't good enough. But like
replay is not going to be the answer, right, we
tried that after the Saints Scott screwed and how long
(26:24):
did that last before that was a total joke, right,
And they weren't going to call anything on PI from
the league office, right, They were just gonna let stand
whatever happened on the field. So I don't know what
the answer is, other than I'd like to think technology
could become more and more involved in terms of real
time you know, ways to spot the ball and having
(26:44):
some sort of science and more science involved in this
that takes away from some of the judgment calls, I guess.
And then more full time officials who all they do
year round is trained to be NFL officials. You know,
these franchises are worth five six billion dollars now is
it too much to ask that the guy officiating the
(27:04):
game is invested in this full time year round, you
know what I mean, and not splitting time with working
at his hardware store that he owns, or you know,
being Matt Locke.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
You know, half the years, Wow, guy solving crime, a
bunch of lawyers going.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Arounding small crimes courts or whatever the hell these guys
do you know working in it. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Whatever it is, Like, is it.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Too much to ask that they be compensated and they
be put in a position where their entire livelihoods and
careers are tied to officiating and adjudicating these games? Because
God knows who we could use it.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking for That is at
Jason lock and for Check him out Odyssey Washington Post
one oh five seven the fan in Baltimore Jays always
buddy appreciated.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Man, I have a great night.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
You guys do the same.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Thank you say about it?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well, I would see that that I wouldn't mind. Like,
if you have an official that's solving crimes in the ard,
like that should be a show, right you could you
make that a show that the star is a guy
and it's half the year you're talking about him solving
crimes as an official and then he's also an official,
and then it mixes he's solving football issues or sports
(28:12):
crimes as an official sports crime.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, now that's a sick guy.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I mean the NFL would I don't think they would
like that, but it would just start creeping down into
you know, adjudicating soccer things like you you don't get
referees to a feel how.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Do you how do you fix that?
Speaker 5 (28:28):
No, I would dig I'd watch that as hey, this
guy is a referee, but he also solves crimes in
the off season.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I saw actually a breakdown of the occupations. I mean
a lot of high, high powered folks that are a.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Lot of returneys, a lot of them lawyers. Yeah, but
I mean, but if you're an investigator, man, that'd be
pretty cool. What do you investigate fraud?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
But I saw a story going around. I was trying
to find it.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Well, come, you couldn't investigate your penalty flag on that
obvious holding call the gate of the Jets interception against
the Chiefs on Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
But the video of the head official coming over going
are you sure? Are you sure that's what you saw?
Like the fact that we've got that kind of situation
not just hey, what number?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yeah? All right? No, okay, it's like, are you sure
that's what you saw? Get a lot of okay, you're sure? Okay, Rachel.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
The problem is he needs one of those play cards
in front of his mouth, the other when he's talking
to another official.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yes, yeah, right, so we can't. Are you sure you're
right about this? Before I go on the PA and
make this official.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
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Speaker 1 (30:06):
Home run by the Rangers make it eleven to three,
another one for Garcia. Let's see how wouldn't you just
bounce the ball into him at this point? Let's see
how he crosses the plate. I'm gonna walk over, gonna
step on the plate. Now, everything is fine, Everything is fine.
Eleven to three Rangers with the lead, top of the
(30:28):
eighth inning. Certainly looks like the Rangers are going to
the World Series.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Did he find a plastic cup and envelope in front
of his locker at any point the last couple of days.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Man, I'll tell you he's like, he's like becoming the
new Randy Arose Arena Like suddenly in the playoffs, he's unbeatable.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
One of the greats, no question.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Now, we'll have more on the baseball game coming up
in a bit. Right now, twenty two to seventeen, Vikings
lead the Niners, but seven minutes to go in the fourth,
the Niners have the football near midfield. They just ran
a quarterback sneak. I don't know that Perdy got there.
It looks like he's gonna be short. So they will
have a decision to make on fourth them. But we
(31:08):
talked to Jason lock And for a little bit about
the Dolphins a few minutes ago. Certainly, you know the
marquee game of the week this week with the Dolphins
in the in the Eagles and the Eagles win the game,
and he says, you know, I'm kind of getting Cowboys
vibes from the Dolphins a little bit here, and I
can see that, and I get it. But I'm gonna
say something, and you know, I believe it because I'm
a Jets fan. The Dolphins are unfairly picked on by
(31:31):
media and analysts, and I don't know why. Nothing they
do is ever good enough to a tongue of Iloa.
Right now is the odds on leader to be NFL MVP.
And still you get questions like Mike McDaniel, got do
you think two is a system quarterback?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
As two are really this good? You see analysts all
the time speak down about tour. They don't believe into it,
UNBLA drugs, the guys one of the leaders for MVP
for a reason. Yet it doesn't matter second to Mahomes
right now, right yet, it doesn't matter. You know, two
is not good and the Dolphins aren't good enough for
the Dolphins aren't physical enough for the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Don't do this, you know what.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
The Dolphins are five and two. They're fine. The Dolphins
are fine. There's nothing wrong with the Dolphins. Now they've
lost a couple of games. Guess what, everybody else, even
the best teams in the NFL, have all lost a
couple of games, but nobody is going crazy about it.
But for the Dolphins, it's that unfair criticism where I honestly,
I feel like it's it's almost personal, where analysts in
(32:23):
the media like, I'm not gonna be happy until the
Dolphins stink and to it gets benched, and then I'll
be happy. That's kind of the the vitriol that I
get from people about about Dolphins, Like you're really over
the time. It's only the Dolphins are one and six,
and boy, they're really not achieving. You know, they're they're
they're missing who probably could have been the MVP of
(32:45):
the first five weeks in Devon a Chan.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
He's gonna come back in a couple of weeks. And
they put up all kinds of point they're fine, But
yet you'd believe, like the Dolphins are awful and that's
not fair. They are unfairly criticized by the media in
general as a whole. Yeah, I think part of it
is you celebrate the super genius until you don't when
it goes back to you and I here at Fox
sports radio and chronicling the greatness and the rise and
(33:10):
the fall, the ebb and flow of the Golden State Warriors.
Remember they were the greatest thing in the world, revolutionizing
basketball for about eighteen months, and then everybody was done
with it because.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
They ruined the game.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Likewise, Mike McDaniel, we celebrate him his quirkiness, the way
he answers questions until we don't. And that's the collective
media for us. I mean, last week was the best.
I'm gonna throw this podium at you. I'm gonna turn
over talk about.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Too like that.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Our guys are doing great things, but you've got injuries galore,
and I know a lot of teams have them. Dolphins
are missing a lot of starters. And don't forget a
week ago when the forty nine Ers and Eagles lost.
Look at all the poison pens that came out for
Jalen Hurds and Brock Purdy immediately, Like these guys couldn't
play football because they lost the game.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
And the Dolphins are getting a lot of that right now.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Really unfair. We have more more on this, More big
quarterback news out of the NFL and a shocker in
Major League baseball.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
We got it for you. Next, right here, Jason and Mike.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
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