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November 1, 2023 36 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon recap all the big moves from the NFL trade deadline. They explain why MLB should be playing World Series games on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. How trading Josh Dobbs turned out to be the high point of the day for sports fans in Phoenix.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Greetings and welcome inside. Happy Halloween our three of The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon him
the Tirerag dot com Studios. I really hope Friday the thirteenth,
Part two is on tonight so we can see that
scene again.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, I need to see a flip through the channels
because it's got to be there. Watch the Spurs and
the Suns and obviously Clippers and Magic Yay.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, I know Tysha on the other side of the
glasses watching Freddie Versus Jason.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, I mean it is like a heavyweight fight. This
is like Fury and in Ghanu getting after it again.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, I'm waiting for the sequel. Five nights at Freddy
Versus Jason's I'm gonna trying to. I think I might
go home and watch that later. Uh, you know, the
the recent release, the kid from the Hunger Games getting
after it, but you know the the open said, you know,
he's dressed like a baseball card. I did see someone
that took a Tops release this cool set this year,
kind of shiny right, gets the refractor treatment, and then

(01:28):
they include a bunch of legends and there's a Ken
Griffy card in the set.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Someone dressed up his kid like Ken Griffy.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Ah cool, yeah, June, yeah Junior of course.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, who can't act worth anything?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Ken Griffy really well, I think it would have been
a little more obscure and kind of cool, But yeah,
Ken Griffy in those I keep yelling act act in
those commercials.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
But you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
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You didn't get candy stolen off the front of your
house like my wife did a few minutes ago. That
may or may not have been perpetrated by Harmon's you're

(02:15):
still crying about this, you know, I want I want
the bull back. They stole the bowl. I want the
butt and left it out there.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I want the whoa sins crying.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
You're just gonna start yelling. How are you gonna do?
Just gonna start yelling? Uh? Look, first of all, my
wife comes in the house for a minute and says, hey,
can I borrow your friend?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
That it was longer than a minute outside and it
was good.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, I figured we were in a safe enough neighbor
we must aren't gonna come and steal things.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Clearly not.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Not only did they steal the candy, they stole the bowl.
It was in the bowl we had for twenty years.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Do you have an ability to get out of that
contract on that house, because I mean, clearly your neighborhood's
not safe.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, Klo, clearly something's going on here. I need we
need to be aldn electrified fence so you walk by it. Yeah,
put some alligators in it, shuore, stay away from that out.
I like the idea of a moat. What are you doing?
I'm putting in a moat around the house.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
He's taking applications to work in his house.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
What is it you dropped him off the other day, Mike.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Uh, here's the thing. My wife said when she came
in the house, came back out the people. The person
got in the car and they took off. Was a
silver car, and they took off. She chased them in
the car, but couldn't find them. A week and a
half ago, Harmon drove me to my house, so he
knows where I live because we just moved a few
months ago.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
You don't think I wiped that from my memory.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Silver car that Pam said stole the candy? You drive
a what color car? Silver car? Dirt car, silver car.
Your daughter just learned how to drive just a few
short weeks ago. So hmm, maybe somebody sent their kid
to my house to steal candy. Because for whatever reason,
I'm just upset with Chase and all the Jets and

(04:02):
they won three in a row. Let's go steal candy
from his house. You're the mastermind of this man. I
think you're the mastermind.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Buddy. That's Nichols and dimes, that's peanuts.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I got.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I gotta come after something of higher value than that.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
You don't think coming to my house and taking chocolate's
a big deal. That's going down a waste of my time.
You can't go down a gold No. I'm not saying
you're gonna take it neither. You're probably gonna flip it.
You're probably gonna say, hey, this is Paul Kinerko eating
chocolate from Buddy.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
This is the worst market to try to flip chocolate
because tomorrow it's half price. There's no market here. That's
like having pumpkin futures and holding them till tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
It's just bad business.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
No chocolate is you gotta.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Sell it before Halloween? Did you learn nothing from the Zimpsons?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Pumpkins are no good. People eat their candy for the
next few months. That's what it is, is a huge
chocolate that.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you can buy it somewhere else
for half price.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
There's no markup.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I get it, although again it is a good fellas
eating Like the cigarettes I'm get and I'm for free.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
You get it for free tonight, trick or treating. Why
would you worry about buying it half price tomorrow? Go
knock on people.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
My point is not a lot of great market over
because people are giving stuff away. People, you know, just
walk around enough, like a lot of folks don't participate
and pretend they're not home. But there's still a lot
of folks that really get after it come Halloween.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
So people are gonna be able to get their candy.
There's no market for me to sell it.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
I know what happened?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Are you kidding? Jo?

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Got my detective hat on Smith? Okay, you stole your own.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Key, his own candy there, that's it you you hit
it from Pam.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'm on the air with you. How am I going
to steal.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
My own candy? It during a commercial break? That didn't
you said, Pam? I you know what, Go take a
take your break, Go refill your drink. Go you know,
if you need to use the facilities, you want to
go call Zoe. Maybe you want to take a minute
and watch the Magic and the Clippers.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Here's there's a silver car. I think they did it.
And then when Bam went to run after them nuts,
when you you started eating it all.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
You know what, we'll test your sugar tomorrow. I got
the meter and we'll see how your sugar counted.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
You think that happened tonight? Come on, man, did that
happen during what's trending? That did not. Did not have
time to go out and do it.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Think you did?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I did not.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I think you does. Protest a bit much.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Okay, I'm gonna you old bowl.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
No.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
I like that super sleuth Frostburg Frostbury.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Listen, he's like power. There's much more evidence pointing to
you stealing or having someone in your family stealing the
candy from my front lawn than than me doing it.
Silver car daughter who recently learned how to drive. You
just drove me to my stand days ago. That's it, man,
you kidding. I'd get it, but you can. Now.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
In America they would say, oh yea indet a ham sandwich.
But you can't catch me.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
They would say, oh, he absolutely did it.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Ucla Dodger Frank just says Smith. Here's your solution. Just
put out candy corn next to you.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
All that money you spend on your house. You don't
have a camera, you know what?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
But you know, Pam said, she goes. You know, I
turned the ring doorbell off because we were going to
have people coming up to the house.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
All this is an inside job, written she turned the ring.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Listen, Dude, I have no idea. I had no idea
this doorbell.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
First movies, you turn the camera off.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
If there's anything electronic or that that needs some kind
of I don't know any kind of of of knowledge
of that nature. I am completely out of my no.
I know nothing about that nothing, and and I know
absolutely nothing about that. Hey. Like if you said to me, Hey,
if I bought a TV and they said, could you

(07:43):
hook up your your cable box or your deep direct
TV box to it? I would say, you know, somebody
else has to do it. I just don't have that gene.
I could. I can't do it. I don't know. I
don't know. Could you plug in your computer and get
it started? No, I need somebody else to.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Do that, clear you cash, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I don't know how to do it. No, there's so
many things that I have no idea how to do.
Can you turn your.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Machine off and turn it on again? For me, sir?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's enough for me to just figure out my phone
if something happens where I can find stuff on it.
But other stuff like that, like electronics and the dormant no, nothing.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
AOL is probably still charging you two hundred dollars for
dial up.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I'm sure I'm still paying that. I'm I'm sure that's
why things get so difficult to night sometimes. Wait, it's
late at night. Why can I not get online? No,
I'm sure that's the way it is. No, I have
no gene for that whatsoever. No harmon you had your daughter?
Do it? Just admit it. Just admit you. At Ellie Drive,
he was coming back from chemistry class at that point. Yeah,

(08:41):
and your chemistry is going. You know what goes well together?
Me stealing candy and then having candy at the end.
I'm sure that's the chemistry she learned.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Well, that's more of an equation. That would be more
a math class.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
My dad dared me to steal it, and the equation
was me equals Musketeers squared God.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
He said, Dad, what do you want for your birthday?
I said, I really want you to ruin Jason's Halloween done.
And here's how we're gonna do it, cause it's gonna
get his wife mad and then she's gonna curse at
him for not taking the night off and wearing family costume.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
She is not happy. I just went downstairs again the bowl.
She is not happy. She's more upset. I told her
she's more upset about the bowl being stolen, I would hope, so,
you know, because we have you all the time. Yeah,
I know. I'm hoping somebody at least drives back around,
like like the end of the night tonight going okay,
we stole the candy and here I'm and we find
the bowl on the lawn in the morning, Like the
bull's under your desk. It's not my desk.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
He's currently got his laptop on top.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
The fact that these people drove by and they saw that,
Hey there's nobody out there, and they're opportunistic to jump out,
grab the bowl of candy, get in the car, and
take off just as BAM's coming back out. I don't know, man, at.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Least have a good story if you're gonna make one.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't know. I don't know. I look at it
this way. Who knows the clock on the show? Better
Harmon also knows the clock? Hey, when do we go
to what's trending? When does Pam know when to go inside?
And she's got to ask Jason a question that's eleanor
when you drive by and you go up and grab
the candy, you have a three minute window and when
she's not out there, go and get it.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I was married a long time. There was no listening
to the show or knowing what the clock is, so
trying to use that as an alibi, like, knows what
the hell the clock of the you know, is failing
on me.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
She knows, she knows well, she knows that that's not
my fault. She pays attention, And I know that you're
just pretending that that your kid didn't pay attention because
that's a great cover for you. It's like the Cardinals saying, hey,
Kyler Murray's coming back. He's not coming back. They're gonna
tank for the number one pick. They're just saying he's
coming back to make it look like trading Josh Dobbs
is something they had to do. No, you're just covering

(10:46):
up for it. I can see right through it. Tell him,
I'm like Tom sam on Law and Order. I am
morally right, and I get everything right now with all the.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Case declaring that he was healthy and almost ready to go,
I truly believe it was the send up the flair
saying if the price is right, we can move Kyler Murray.
But certainly Josh Dobbs suddenly going to number three, there
was no question in my mind he was getting Dealt
said it on the show yesterday and on the Iywatcher
Flex podcast, like, you know, Minnesota, that's their best option.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Lo in the hall, there he is.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
We'll get to Josh Dobbs coming up in a few Josh,
because that's one of the big trades today in the
in the NFL, and we had the Chase Young trade
we got to get to as well. But with the
World Series tonight, Yeah, the Rangers win, they go up
three games to one. And you saw the reports a
night a day ago that Game three of the World
Series lowest rated Game three. And I don't you know

(11:38):
since the nineteen twenties or whatever, since there before there
was television, and tonight you're looking at the at the
World Series being played on Halloween night. Yeah, I don't know, man.
I look at baseball and I say, how can you
make the postseason even better? And how can you avoid
stuff like well, it's a bullpen game tonight for both teams. Right,

(12:00):
none of that's getting you to the TV. Great pitching
matchups get you to the TV. It makes it makes
October and the World Series and League Championship Series much
more compelling. And teams don't have the depth they once did. Well,
here's the Aces go tonight. Then it's the number two
starters of next night. Then there's the number three starters
in game three, and that's where things change, and we're
back to the Aces in game four. We've lost that

(12:23):
and the Baseball Playoffs have become a war of baseball attrition,
whoever can survive the longest with whatever bullpen game they have.
And tonight you saw the Rangers were able to outslug
an outlast the Diamondbacks in a big bullpen game. To
make the World Series better and the League Championship Series better,
I would do this because I would say, once you

(12:43):
get to the LCS, look at the sports calendar, right
Baseball NFL on Sunday, Monday night, Thursday night. You don't
want to go up against them. You've already changed your
programming enough. I would play Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday. Once
you get to the League Championship Series, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.

(13:04):
And I wouldn't play on Halloween because that's just dumb. Oh,
when no one's home watching t TV, there, everybody's out,
Why would you play a game on Halloween. That's just stupid.
But I would play Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday because you
would own those nights on TV because there's no NFL
going on Saturday night. Is fine to have a World
Series game because college football is mainly during the day. Yes,

(13:27):
you worry about potentially going up against one good primetime game,
but you can deal with that because in the end,
it is college football. So you go Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.
You run pretty much on a post. You put your
product in front of the most eyeballs you can, and
doing that in the League Championship Series and the World Series,

(13:47):
you let teams resettle their pitchers and you get to
see the aces on somewhat normal rest. You don't have
to worry about slogging through these bullpen games. You get
the best you're gonna get. At this point in this
I understand that sometimes, hey, pitching is just gonna be
what it is. But the fact that the bullpen games
have become so commonplace and in the World Series and

(14:08):
League Championship Series and playoffs we do this now, I mean,
this is this is not something that's great for the game.
This doesn't put the best on display, and in the
October this is not the Fall Classic but you can
at least get back to that. Yes, it is a
lot of rest. You're talking about Tuesday, Wednesday, off day, Friday, Saturday,
you're off two days, then you're playing again. But I'm

(14:29):
okay with letting the pitchers rest. I'm okay with getting
Max Schurzer on normal rest so he can pitch and
not worry about him going two in a third innings
and then knocking himself itself out and he can't pitch anymore.
I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that sacrifice. If
it's gonna mean that the last two rounds of the
playoffs are gonna be better, It's gonna be better on television.
More people are gonna watch, and the matchups will be

(14:50):
more compelling, and the pitching will be more compelling. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I think at the end of the day, it's all
about there's nobody to love or nobody to hate in
this series. The the Astros were there, people would hate
watch the Dodgers are there. You bring in Los Angeles,
keep on going down the line, Yankees, a little bit
of both here. You've got the Rangers and you have
the Diamondbacks. There ain't a lot of love from a

(15:14):
nationwide captivated audience. I don't care what night of the
week you play it on, Jason. I do like your
point in terms of trying to figure out where you
can steal a day or two to get the best
pitching matchups. But like we talked about with John Paul Morosi,
that's more an emblematic and problematic of the game as
a whole. Where we stand right now in terms of
teams getting to the finish line, regardless of the playoffs

(15:37):
and into the World Series, just getting through September, we
see how difficult it is to get through with three starters,
let alone have a fourth or a fifth at your disposal.
So I think it's a larger, larger issue as if
to say, unfortunately, this was the matchup you got.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
You gotta sell the matchup you have.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
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(16:25):
that meat for meat for a big mac? What's the
name of the person who sings this song?

Speaker 6 (16:32):
Why would I want a big mac?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
That's the bet?

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Oh gosh, I think it was like Boris right?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Are you looking at it right now? Jo?

Speaker 6 (16:41):
I'm guessing.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I like the Monster. It was a graveyard smash the
Monster match. I like Boris Pickett singing the Monster.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
The original video of it is fantastic, the facial expressions
and everything as he's doing it on a television show.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
It's so good.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
Hi, Jason, extra cheese, extra sauce please, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
There you go. I actually had that today. I had
McDonald's today. He said, McDonald's in like two weeks. Yeah,
it was like, hey, let's get McDonald's.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
You don't have to lie about it. Yeah, no, no, no,
its haven't done right next to the bowl.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Supposedly. Just believe you when you say.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
That someone stole it, Jacon, you need to do what
you should. Reach out to bul Bul and see what
he was doing at that time.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Bull Bull? Did you steal my bull bowl? Sole my bull?
I like that bowl Bull.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
Speaking of bull ball, he's actually trending.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Right now, bull Bull bull Bull is trending.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
No, you know why why I think Shock compared him to.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
No really, yeah, I could have looked for bull bull.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Boom.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Oh man, Hey, happy Halloween. You have filthy Animal. Uh
you know, I gotta say we you know of for
Halloween because now you know it's been on all day,
the big Halloween marathon before we get into the NFL
trade deadline stuff. I gotta say it being a very look,
the movie is so tense all the way through. Oh look,
it's it's an absolute you know the movie you've seen

(18:14):
so many times. But I don't know the part where
where Michael Myers dresses up in the ghost outfit with
the glasses over the sheet to scare this girlfriend that
he just had sex with, Like this is just a
laughable part of the movie. I'm like, I don't think
that was what it was intended. But the fact that hey,
I'm here, I'm gonna wear I'm gonna wear it. I'm

(18:37):
gonna put a sheet over me, but I'm putting the
glasses over the sheet to make you think it's me.
I mean, really, that's a moment that takes you right
out of the movie.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Doesn't really gets in the mood that he's just that
diabolical human.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah. Well yeah, well look.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
There's the best feels.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
All have a tinge of humor, right, I mean that's
what made you Krueger's so popular. Yeah, but he invaded
your dreams and slash up.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
No, he was a.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Smart ass, right.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
But there's certain movies where when you expect it, it's
a welcome departure for a little bit and releases at tension.
But there's certain movies that's just their tents all the
way through and and something that can take you right
out of it. And and and I go, oh, well
that just took like like that scene like takes you
right out of the movie. You hear him, I'm putting
his sheet on and I'm gonna put glasses on. Oh okay, yeah,

(19:28):
Like I don't like that. Like I keep telling you this,
you know, The Strangers is such an underrated horror movie.
But when when Glenn Howard and when Dennis from It's
Always Sonny shows up, all I'm thinking of is here
comes Dennis, and Dennis is in the movie and I'm
laughing ATUF it's not even funny because it's Dennis, and
I'm like, look, Dennis is here, and even the even

(19:48):
the scene sorry spoiler to see when Dennis gets killed
of like laughing the whole time he's coming in and
I'm like, picture, I'm waiting for him to say something.
You know, Charlie, You know, Charlie, you didn't help it
all with this, Charlie. You know how many strangers ar Oh,
you know, but I mean just casting him took me
out of the movie most moments like that. I don't
need to be taken out of the movie.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Well, it's why Al Bundy got cut from a few
good men. Ed O'Neill had a scene and everybody started going,
there is shoe salesman.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
That's Paul Kai's finest to your.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Hut because I remember the scene he was sitting on
he was he was being questioned in the witness stand
and he put his hand in the front of his pants,
like if he just come.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Down, go ahead, ask me what you need to.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
One of the finest actors ever the chases, you know,
almost a Steeler two.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I may or may not have been in a fantasy
league with him a few years ago. And we may
or may not have made a trade. When I was
when I was an NFL network, we did this. We
did this league like it was a celebrity league, and
one person did it, but we never knew who they were.
And the rumor was with that, no, it's it's it's
Ed O'Neil, like, oh my god, it's Ed O'Neill. But
we never confirmed it. And then the guy, like you know,

(21:02):
offered me a trade, wind up making a trade. I'm going,
I don't get did I just make a trade with
Ed O'Neil or not? Like did I do it? And
we never confirmed, like how do we not confirm O'Neil
or not? How do we know? We never knew. We
thought it was Ed O'Neill, but we were we weren't sure.
Could have been Ed O'Neil.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
But you buy women's shoes from him, I don't, or
closets maybe some custom closets.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Closet, No, come on customs Cloud Dave and out of
business for years. Those guys, come sure it wasn't Patrick O'Neill.
That wasn't wasn't Patrick. So the NFL trade deadline was today,
and the Washington commanders decide Hey, yeah, three and five,
we're gonna sell everybody. Uh. They trade Montese Sweat, they
trade Chase Young. Yeah, Montes wet Ron Rivera is getting fired.

(21:46):
Yeah is the dominoes that fall? But go ahead, and
there's so many people who were upset that look the
the forty nine Ers get Chase Young, one of the
best young talents in the end, and all they give
up for him is a third round pick. Montest Sweat
fetches a second round pick from the Bears, which, Okay,

(22:07):
why the Bears did it is kind of ridiculous, but
let's stick with this part of it. The Niners getting
Chase Young? How do they do this? Disse? I saw
some people. Can the NFL step in and make this
trade not happen because this is going to turn the
forty nine ers into an even bigger threat. You know,
this is an easy deal to make for a third

(22:27):
round pick for Chase Young, And I get that all
of the reaction to this right array was all man.
They they just got one over on the Commanders who
were giving guys away. How does Montest Sweat go for
a second round pick? And how does and how does
Chase Young go for a third round pick? Now let's
stop a secon because I'll explain how this happens, because

(22:47):
the Chase Young trade and the Montes Sweat trade is
actually fine. Now the Bears trading for him, that's the question,
But these trades are fine. These two guys were made
publicly available. They were the two best defensive players that
were available at the deadline, right because you knew. The
Commanders even said, hey, if we win on Sunday four
and four, we're not gonna do it. If we lose, hey,

(23:10):
we'll take phone calls on Montes Sweat and Chase Young.
Both these guys are coming up for contracts. They're not
going to resign them. Who knows what level of starting
over the Commanders are going to be it. They made
it very well known. I mean, what teams do that
unless you know you're gonna trade these guys. Hey, depending
on how tomorrow's game goes, Eh, we're gonna make moves.
We're taking active phone calls.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well, I think they just did exactly what Ron Rivera does.
They said the quiet part out loud because I think
every there were a lot of teams in the same boat.
They just decide to let everybody know it.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Over a Bullhorn. Right, but this is why these trades
are both fine. All right, let me explain. Let me,
let me explain, because now you're gonna understand. Oh, okay,
maybe the Niners didn't just get a guy that's going
to help them win the Super Bowl. With that being
so public, anybody could have had Montes Sweat. Anybody could
have had Chase Young, right, everybody knew anybody who needed

(24:01):
a defensive lineman could have done it. And what do
you think half the league, or at least five or
six or seven teams out of the teams that need
a defensive lineman are contenders enough that would call to
try to get these guys. Now, why did Sweat did
get a second round pick? Most likely there was a
lot more interest in him because he's someone who has
been really healthy throughout his career. He's having a great year.

(24:23):
And if you trade him, if you're the Bears, is
he gonna make that much money? Or if you want
to sign him he's twenty seven, if he likes Chicago, hey,
go on. And if the Bears resign him to a
somewhat of a short long term deal like two or
three years, great move for the Bears. Right, you got
a guy that's a pretty good pass rusher. What do
they have one sack this year and he's got six
and a half, So yeah, there was probably most likely

(24:47):
a bigger bidding war for Sweat. But Chase Young, Chase Young,
Chase Young is a guy that's got big time injury problems.
Kind is the whole season? Is he off to a
good start this year. Yes, he's off to a good
start this year. You're picking up where he was two
and a half years ago when you thought he's going
to be one of the best defensive players in the game.
But he's a walkaway guy with an injury history. So yeah,

(25:10):
third round pick for him, I get it. I get that.
That's what it is. And if you think that's still
too little to give up, anybody else could have had him.
If somebody else wanted him, they would have called and said,
oh no, no, no, we'll give you a second round
pick for Chase Young. What are the Commanders going to do?
Say no, we want to trade him for a third
round pick to the Niners. They would have dealt him.
This wasn't a trade like in your fantasy league, where

(25:31):
one owner is just continually badgering another owner until he
makes a trade, or he reaches to him before anybody
else does, he makes a bad deal. All I didn't
know he was given the guy away. I would have
made him an offer. No, it's not one of those trades.
This is something where everybody knew if you wanted Chase Young,
you could have had him. Now you know, if you
wanted he could have had him for a second round pick.
Yet nobody offered that. So what does that tell you

(25:54):
that of anybody needing a defensive line, and there's lots
teams through out the NFL, that the best you got
was a third round pick. That's the best offer. They
took the best offer. A team like Washington's not in
a position to say, well, we're not going to trade you.
As long as they don't trade within a division, they
don't care. Do you think they wanted to trade them
to the forty nine ers. No, they probably want to
trade them to the AFC. But this was the best offer.

(26:14):
I don't think there's any other offer out there they
turned down that was even close. Was third round pick here? Yes? Why?
Because Chase Young comes with a little bit more risk.
You remember him as being a first round pick and
being a high first round pick and how good he
was his first year plus into the league. But since
then there's been injuries and now here he is after
half a season. He's a walk away. What else you're

(26:35):
really going to give up? I thought both these trades
were fine. They went for what they were going for,
and both teams made good deals to get these guys,
and the Commanders got what they could for two players
they weren't going to sign the end of the season.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, as we look at.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
It, you know, the Sweat trade goes down, and there
was some talk that maybe he chose the Bears of
other suitors. When it was all said and done and
it's all finding good, you know. It's the question is
after last year and a second round pick going out
for Claypool, we saw how that worked out and what
a mess it all became.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
And at this point, the.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Guy's running the program, there's just a lot of questions
to be asked every week. It's the slink away from
the podium as fast as you can when there's that
dramatic pause waiting for the next question to come up,
because you know there are a litany of them in
terms of your personnel choices. Why or how you're dealing

(27:29):
with Johnson? Right, he doesn't get dealt out of the secondary.
He wants a new deal, and the Bears have been
terrible at deciding whether to extend their.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Own i e.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
They don't just take a look at Roquan Smith doing
tremendous things over in Baltimore. So it was surprised that
Johnson doesn't get dealt. But to bring in sweat half
season rental, I guess you're banking on the He'll see
the culture, he'll see the team, and he'll decide he
likes Chicago enough for free agency. Otherwise, are you renting

(28:00):
a player for a half year when you stink?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, Look, if they sign him long term or some
kind of deal before the end of the season, great trade, right,
because it's better than a guy you're gonna get in
the second round. You're the guy. He's still here. But why,
I mean, you're two and six. It's like, it's like,
did you not learn from Chase Claypool that that giving
away a second round pick for a guy who may
not work out and you actually had him under but.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
This guy actually play, which is fine versus what Claypool became.
As for Chase Young, yeah, I mean you laid it out.
It's reputation and glimpses of greatness. And yes, if you're
the Bears, you know they inquired about Young you'd rather
have sweat, even if it was a second instead of
a third. There's no collusion here. It's a guy that

(28:47):
you're hoping stays on the field. Look at his history.
It's a lot of greatness when he's there. Look at
his stats, look at his games played. So the guy
that's not on the field a ton, you've already hit
the over I think of games play, of what you
would have guessed based on the last couple of years
and his lack of availability. So for the forty nine ers,

(29:07):
it's a luxury, right. You still have some draft picks
after the Trey Lance deal.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Say, hey, let's go, let's see what we can do
to add to our defense that's gotten eviscerated and giving
up some big plays. See if we can get another
push up front. Good trade and Washington Whuit clearly is
starting to raise that little white flag.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
DJ Washington telling the Bears we're gonna trade you sweat
till you bleed.

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Speaker 1 (29:45):
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Speaker 2 (30:00):
Horrible?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
How about a hot take on the best part of
the sports day in Phoenix, because you know, the World
Series didn't go well, and neither did the end of
the Sun's game against the Spurs. Josh Dobbs gets traded
to the Vikings. Well, the Vikings end of this deal
coming up next hour on the show, because I really
like what they did. But for the Cardinals to trade

(30:23):
Josh Dobbs, I'll give you this Big Bowl prediction. What's
going on right now? There is a disagreement within the
organization about tanking versus playing it out because there's no
way Josh Dobbs, who's played pretty well over the course
of the season, is name the starter for next week. Look,

(30:44):
they lost again, Jonathan Gannon says, no, no, no, he's the starter.
And then a day after they they they say oh,
we looked at the tape and now not only is
Josh Dobbs not starting, Clayton Tune is gonna start. Then
it's gonna be Kyler Murray and Josh Dobbs is third string. Wait,
and what world does that happen? I'm pretty sure again,
and watch the game and new whether or not Josh

(31:06):
Dobbs was good enough to start another game or not.
But suddenly the next day he's not good. This just
smacks of Hey, after Sunday, the Cardinals now are in
pole position for the number one overall draft pick. I
have the worst record in the NFL and they and
they have the pole position there if they lose the
rest of their games? Do you really want to screw

(31:27):
up getting Caleb Williams? So how else does it make
sense where we take our starter who was our starter
all year until this point, right, not just one game?
He played badly all year until this point. Now, not
only are we taking him out, we're going to start
a guy that's completely untested, we're gonna trade him. Wait,
why wouldn't you want to keep a guy If Kyler

(31:48):
Burray's coming back, maybe he gets hurt. You got a
guy that's played well at Spurts over the course of
this season. No, no, you trade the guy. How does
that make sense unless the the the dictum from a
is we're tanking and you need to make sure that
this is what we're doing. So Clayton Tune is gonna
start on Sunday. Now, wait a minute, though this, but

(32:09):
the Cardinals say that, hey, Kyler Murray's coming back and
he's gonna start when he's healthy. Hmm. Is Kyler Murray
really gonna come back to play or are they just
saying he's gonna come back and in a couple of
weeks it's gonna be. Hey, Kyler's not feeling it. He
needs a couple more weeks then it's gonna be there's
no sense to bring him back. Are they using Kyler
Murray returning as cover so they could make this trade

(32:33):
and basically tank because Josh Dobbs is threatening to win
a couple of games. Right, It's not like they got
blown out. They lost by a touchdown to a really
good team. But wait a minute, Kyler Murray's coming back.
All of this just fits into we really want a
tank now and we need to be able to do it.
Where it seems passable. So we're gonna pretend that Josh

(32:53):
Jobs thinks when he really doesn't. We're gonna say that
Kyler Murray's coming back when I'll believe it when I
see it when he's actually under center playing football coming
up in a couple of weeks, because I look at
it and say, hey, they're saying he's coming back so
they could cover what they're doing right now, which is
we're trading away our guy and we're starting a guy
that has no experience in the NFL is probably gonna
lose every game he starts the rest of the way.

(33:14):
So yeah, my hot take, you are seeing tanking absolutely
one percent from the Cardinals, and you're getting a little
bit of pushback from the team who didn't know that
was gonna happen following the game last week.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, I think you look at it from the as
soon as Dobbs gets demoted to third, we talked about
it last night.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
He's like, all right, he's gone. Now.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
It's just a question of where I would have thought
he would have commanded better than a pick's you know,
him plus a pick for a sixth rounder in twenty
twenty four, given the marketplace and the dearth of quarterbacks.
But that's where we're at, a good small investment. Again,
we'll get to the Viking side of it a little
bit later on. But for the Cardinals, you know, the
Kyler Murray thing is also I believe the Hey, he practiced,

(33:57):
he's healthy, you want him, come get him. Because again,
if you're vuying for number one, yeah, look at the
trade that pick, right, you want Caleb Williams, or you
want Drake mayor whoever you've decided on. Now you'll have
massive offers that come in. And if you've decided that
you love Kyler Murray, then you move forward. But I
fully believe a lot of it was all right, Clayton
tootlell be our guy. The Kyler Murray thing is just

(34:19):
we're raising our hands saying, come get him if you
want to take on his contract and you want him
to be your leader going forward. Well, they didn't get
the offer they wanted, or maybe the phone never rang. Instead,
Dobbs heads off to Minnesota, and now you continue your
pursuit for the number one overall pick because roster wise, look,
Connor's been on the IR you're not rushing him back.

(34:42):
De Mercado and those guys, you know they're serviceable at
the wide receiver position. Part of me wondered whether Hollywood
Brown would have been spun off in this process as well. Instead,
he remains as you're number one, and you're still waiting
on Wilson and trying to see what else you have
in that receiving corps. Literally, it's one guy, and I
guess Trey McBride steps up a little bit with Erz

(35:05):
now to the IR.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
But it's the the.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Semblance, or at least my thinking is that there's no
intention that Kyler Murray actually plays.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Now it's go for broke.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah. If if I really thought he was coming back,
I wouldn't say this, but I it just does it
really seem like he's ready? Has he talked about being ready?
Have you heard Kyler Murray say or anything. I can't
wait to get back out there. I can't wait to
get back out there and go play. Have you heard
any of that. Have you heard any teammates saying, Hey,

(35:37):
we can't wait for our leader to come back. We're ready.
We heard he's close. No, all you're getting is from
the team. Yeah he's a week or two away. Yeah,
maybe he's going to start in a week and you're
getting that from X, from the insiders like Ian Rapaport
and other guys. Yeah, I'll believe that one I see it.
This is all the cover tanking, trust me, exit out
about a Fresca exit, Swollen Dome and the Jason Smith
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(36:00):
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