November 2, 2023 • 29 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh, it's a beautiful
day for a ballgame. Oh how about multiple ballgames on
different playing surfaces as we go? We had World Series
Game five earlier tonight. Now we're watching the Lakers and
the Clippers in overtime, a battle at the Crypt, all
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the stars in attendance, all the stars out, many a
weary mile on the legs of your veteran players. Mike
Carbon alongside Carry Rhodes in for Jason Smith to night
at fuse safety musician actor now hanging out with me
here analyzing the good, the bad, the ugly of sports. Today.
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We saw World Series Game five, the Rangers winning their
first title in franchise history. And now we're watching this
Lakers Clipper game come down the wire, Lakers trying to
beat the Clippers, in the regular season for the first
time since the bubble, it has been eleven straw and
now with the alley oop the trailing Lebron James Hammers
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at home to twelve remaining one twenty four one nineteen
Bronnie James at attendance on the day of release of
the first Bronnie James trading card. You got the card off,
I don't know, I don't have it. I watched. I
decided the product was a little more than I wanted
to pay to go into the Bronnie James sweep States
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because it's a it's a McDonald's all American products, so
it's the men's and women's side, but people chasing and
some of the autographs selling for fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars,
so it's a big deal. His first licensed trading card
as we go. So there he is an attendance, watching
Dad throw it down in overtime to get the crowd
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up and rolling the pass from Reeves to the trailing
Lebron for the one handed dunk.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Twenty one years in catching oops like that, remarkable.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Whatever whatever he does for his body in the offseason,
whatever portion of the globe he goes to whatever those
processes are. I mean, I want to tap some of
that into my veins. See if I can regenerate some
of my youth.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You know, it's crazy because I still play leagues around
around LA sometimes and pretty competitive. I mean, on my
team this season was Catino Mobile, So it's like real,
real talent.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I played. You know, I played.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh we no cat he's up in here a bunch.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, Cat's my guy. So he's on my one of
my teams. But you know, I can still catch an
oop and I can steal dunk here and there at
forty you know, and there you go. But never skip
leg day. Got to keep the spreakiness. Never skip leg day.
But also me planning the in the rec league. I
can't do this and play forty eight minutes of a
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game at this intensity, at this intensity, with all the
mallets he's put on his body.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Man, it's just it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's the next level stuff, right, that body management, and
not to get into load management, which is a whole
other It's like a four letter word, and load is
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And this this game has more weight for a regular
season game, certainly here in Los Angeles it does. I
mean our guy Frostburg, big Lakers fan. Again, the memes,
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he's got them ready as soon as the and the
gifts as soon as possible. But when you talk about
a streak like the Clippers have gone through in regular
season dominance, and that's really because it's always the big
brother little brother argument around here. Now the Clippers are
getting ready to open their own facility next week. And
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now you make the trade for James Harden, and you've
got this collection of all stars, which has always been
the laugh right when they had all the billboards all
over the place, street lights over spotlights, like you just
went and got two huge names, and then you added
a third. Now you added Harden. You need two billboards
next to each other at this point for all the
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name recognition in future Hall of famers that you're bringing in.
But I appreciate that there's just at least a little
bit of that that battle, that divisiveness, you know, the Giants,
Jets kind of thing. White Sox, Cubs, right, Cubs have
all the national love, but in the city, you've got
your division, as it were, and it may not mean
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a whole lot to other folks, and certainly nationally. We
talk about the Clippers a lot because the expectations going
on a decade plus have been pretty high, yeah, and
have not been met, and for many reasons. And then
we talk about load management and how it's been applied.
We talk about unavailable stars for the playoffs, but the
expectations this year are through the roof for both these squads.
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The Lakers after their run to the Western Conference finals
and the Clippers, well, everybody's saying they're healthy, best shape
of their lives, right, the old training camp interview you
would give on the first day, best shape of my life.
I'm ready to go.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Let's go right, right, right, No, both of these teams
have high expectations. The Clipper one. It actually it kind
of it just throws me for a loop, man. I
mean this, they already had enough to win it this
year without Harden and the cast of characters that they
had already. I believe they had a you know, a
legitimate chance regardless. Now you throw a guy like Harden
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who has you know, obviously all the accomplishments for a
single player and a Hall of Fame player, right, he
has that resume, But to throw him in his mix
and see how he fits with that start lineup of Westbrook, Harden,
Paul George, Kawhi, Leonard and Zubos. I just don't know
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how that works because they're going to have to be
delegated in roles and skill sets, and a lot of
their skill sets are the same.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
So I just don't know how that's going to work.
In the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I mean, they have a chance to be there at
the end obviously also, but they got to work out
some pieces too, and see how all those guys are
going to work out.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I mean with both squads, we obviously get it
down to health. And as Frostburg Astuteley points out, there
is only one basketball yeah, yeah, yeah, and you gotta
figure that part out. And I guess that's the large question.
Harden has led the he can assist number of times,
he's not the same shoot away kind of thing that
we saw once upon a time, not that he can't
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do it on occasion. I guess that's where it comes
in philosophically, where you're at in theory versus what it
becomes in practice, because in theory, you could see a
world where you have those other three and then James
Harden is your beast of the second unit, and he
can come in and he can shoot and be the
offensive guy that we've all known and watched and then
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watched him trip over his tongue latent games for expending
all that energy and defensively becoming a liability. I think
the larger thing is there's the angst with Harden of
he's asked out here, he's asked out there, and to me,
it's like, look, everybody wishes in their world they have
that level of agency right to where you could say,
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you know what, I like you. We're getting along, Okay,
I don't like the guy in the front office. So
I'm gonna go work across the street. You're gonna let me,
and you're gonna help me. Not only am I gonna go,
you're gonna help me move my stuff across the street.
And that's what James Harden has had the ability to
do time and time again, and here's an opportunity to
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come back home to play here in Los Angeles. I
think the vagabond stuff ends. I don't think we're gonna
get a shack dis or big Leprechaun like we had
with Shaquill O'Neal at the end of his I think
this is the final stop.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
It is the final stop.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Oh one well, one way or another, it as the
final stop. I was looking at it straight from the
positive that they'll pay him, he'll be in the new
arena and everything else.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
This isn't I'm being been a little bit more realistic.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's okay, yeah, no, no, Look, a little negativity is
okay a.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Little bit, because I mean just from what he's shown us, right,
and so we know he can play, and we know
when everything's good and he's happy, he's a really good player,
great player, right, But when things go wrong or he
doesn't get his way, it goes completely south. And so
whos to say that something's not going to happen in
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this this year that rubs them the wrong way?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, sure, but it's sensitive souls.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
But it's like, do you want to really win. And
that's the thing about a lot of these superstar players
who you know, ask the trays or get out, like
do you really want to win or is there something
else to your agenda that's going on?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, and that's the question where I think a bunch
of the guys when you're looking at the Clippers, right,
they're all not at not at endgame. But we've hit
the top of the mountain and we're on the down side.
So the slope starts getting really fast. I mean, you
played in the NFL, you watched a lot of guys,
you played with guys who came after you where their careers.
That long slide comes fast, is quick. And so for
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these for this Clipper squad, you buy in like cause
like the best scenario I think is he gives you
the opportunity for Kawhi and for Paul George to take
the nights off if they need to. Yes, right, which
I know the NBA is about load management whatever. It's
like here, tape some ice on my leg. I'm gonna
go sit court side. I can't run tonight. Yeah, that's it.
(10:09):
Like that's all you need to say. Like nobody's buying
that you're one hundred percent. So as long as you
show up showing that you gave the old college try,
you're gonna be able to take as many days off
as you want.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, and the coach can control that by minutes as well.
So it just doesn't have to be legit load management either.
It can you know, rotations can be cut a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
July third, twenty twenty. That's the date. Executive producer Justin Froster.
How you feeling tonight there? Justin?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I mean, you got your wa you gotta win, you
got your dakers?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Are you back? Oh? You know we're back? I mean
ish where we go? Did you see that assist from
Camp Reddish off the back Iron to Wood?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Did you see that Christian Woods flying in? How great
was that? No kitchen gang, we're watching games? Shaken in
their boots Man one thirty for Michael Michael right, what
we call Mike here on the show? Michael, you think
we can rankle his feathers?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
You think he's shaken. I don't think he's shaking Michael alone.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh, absolutely, after you watch this, I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
They caught the Clippers on the on the on the
second night of a back to back here too.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Don't a Clipper problem. That's fair point. It is a
fair point, and it is the first week of the season.
It is in theory.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Physically they're short handed to let me throw let me
throw out one more thing. They just traded all those players,
so they're a little short handed as well. But I'm
not taking anything.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
One of those guys playing three minutes of stand around.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I mean, you can always rotational guys those are they're
not wrote Robert Coverton is done. You think Robert Coverington's done?
You think Marcus Morris is done? I know he's got
he maybe he may do. You know who's done with
the Clippers. I was like, yeah, they're done.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I they're done.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I'm might side with you on that. I just don't
believe in that core.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I mean, obviously all Hall of Fame players, it's a
great core without him, yes, and they were functioning better
without him. It's not even about the talent he had.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Just just saying in terms of your rotations, the guys
that they got rid of are not guys you're banking
on for other than filling up a couple of minutes
at the end of quarters.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
No, but was a starter, But tom was a starter,
was was Covington was a sort of.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
These guys were starters at points.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
On this team, though, Mike, these guys are good.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just why they're not there anymore. I may have expiring
contracts there.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I agree with it. I agree with the getting better
with the trade. No word, I mean, don't trust me.
I'm with you on that. But what I'm saying is
these guys are players. They're not friends not being on
the roster. These guys are people that can contribute to
a team. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
At the risk of being called Steve Smith's senior on
the show, Jay a GE's at this point in their
respective career. Zag Okay, alright, Look, it's not disrespecting them
as NBA players. It's like what we talk about it
with NFL players. Somebody's got to be ranked fifty third
on a roster if we're going top to bottom.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
For sure, he's got They just brought PJ. Tucker back
and he played probably thirty five minutes in this game.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So because he's PJ Tucks.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
No, he's because he's a he's an Yeah, that guy
though Marcus Morris was too imed.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
This guy bigger heart, and the money worked out there
you go.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
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Speaker 2 (13:41):
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Speaker 5 (14:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
They've got a tradition in Chicago on the score when
the Bears win on a Sunday Monday is victory chicken.
That's very rare, right, so when it shows up, it's that. No,
that's what I mean, because the chicken eight showing up
unless you win exactly like, they're not bringing you anything, right,
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it's then old rule.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You get nothing is there like a de facto like
spam or bolognia something.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Now, spam, if done right and marinated properly, can be delicious.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Really.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Oh yeah, there's a Japanese thing you do with some
sushi and the nori and some spices.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
And stuff that's good. Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I think it's masubi. Is the way it's pronounced. Something
we're trying to master that. We've had it at restaurants
and now, yeah, we're trying to figure that one out,
no question about it. But you know, we've had a
great night tonight going through the world of sports. And
then a story that's still percolating behind the scenes is
this whole mess at Michigan sign stealing sign communication. Here's
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a guy dressing up like he belongs on the sideline
of a team, all this craziness. Pete Thable had this
out a little bit earlier. Sources on a Big Ten
Coaches Call on Thursday, a vast majority of the league's
coaches encouraged Commissioner Tony Petitti to punish Michigan omitted sign
stealing investigation. Quote Collectively, the coaches want the Big Ten
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to act. There was an athletic report that came out
a little bit earlier, you know, with a poll, and
some of the responses were pretty good, you know, the
old unnamed coach or whatever. Well, unfortunately, you know that
that's the way it's gonna go. You know, it's the sources, sources,
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but at this point people aren't going to put their
name on it. But from the survey, and this was
put out Bruce Feldman, Max Olson quote, my god, what
idiots doing. It is one thing getting caught is an
entirely other thing. That's from an SEC staffer. This from
a sun Belt head coach quote. In some ways they
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should be held accountable.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
For just sheer stupidity. Oh my god, AAC head coach quote.
If all of this is factually true, look at how
their record change since they started doing this, something we've
chronicled quite a bit. Allegedly ahead of the run, they've
had these last three seasons talking about estimation of how
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much it's worth, this whole athletic survey saying it could
be worth as much as ten points per game, and
on and on.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You're just shaking your head. What do you make of
all of this, Carrie.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
It's spam. It's a bunch of spam.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Spam.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
It's a bunch of spam.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
It's just salty. It makes you salty. Is that all
it's all about?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
This happens on every level, man, and I mean all
the way from my little league AYFL football team. We
would try to get this, try to see what their
other teams doing and what their signs are.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
We're doing it in NFL. It's nothing new.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
That's why you got these giant play calls, wristbands, that's
dummy calls, signs with pictures of television stars out there.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And if you're playing against your rivals teams and schools,
you obviously obviously have to change the science going into
the game. We know that going in, we know that
we played Tom Brady twice a year and their signs
aren't going to be the same, and we're going to
try to see if we know their science, and we're
going to try to sign a player that was on
the Newtlyan Patriots team to tell him to be on
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board with us for that week, to tell us.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
What why do you torture that guy during the week.
What do you do when you bring him in as
or is he just mad that he's no longer a
Patriot Now he's gonna get it to give us all
this stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
So all that stuff happens, and so the fact that
they're making this thing such a big deal, I guess
the big deal is they got caught. But it's happening
all over the place. And I think that's why the
other coaches and people talking behind the curtains, because.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's when Smith and I have argued about it, and
he's calling for them to be defeated and all this
other stuff. And I laugh and I go, it's the NCAA.
They have no teeth and they're very slow moving to
get at any action in a couple of weeks. When
you've got a top fourteen, the people are interested in
watching were good regardless, right, they were already good? Yes, great? Yeah,
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And it's this area and I get it. The electronic signs,
the fact that the budget only needed to be fifteen
thousand dollars. Those guys were grossly underpaid for the amount
of performance. Right, No, think about that. Right, all of
you out there where you're whatever you do for a
living and however you're getting by, we appreciate and we
love you all. Thank you for being part of our
extended family, giving us a few minutes of your time,
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laughing with us, shaking your fist and being mad at us,
following us on Twitter. Carry twenty five roads, me over
at Swollen Dome, wherever you're at on that continuum. But
you think about how hard you work for your dollars. Yes,
and in this case, we're talking about scouting at forty allegedly,
you know, the final receipts were forty games all across
this country. Fifteen thousand dollars. That's only according to the
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budgets that at least from what they've been able to
uncover at this point.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, that's all the trips cost.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So we're talking Spirit Airlines Alaska. You're now free to
move about the country. So if you book it in advance,
maybe you get a nice deal on Southwest, maybe you
got some frequent flyer miles from your credit cards, whatever,
But fifteen grand that's it. Yeah, it's not look at
that return on investment, the winds, the bulls, the recruiting dollars,
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because think about what it costs to apply to a college.
Add all that, add the boosters who are turning out
their pockets like they're going to Disneyland.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Have you liked that?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
That's the good.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Have you seen the meme of the dad, the Disney dad.
He was sitting there aut of breakfast and the bill
came and his whole expression chains he was at the
happiest place on the planet and the bill. It's kind
of what we're talking about right now. But I think
it's no. But I really, man, I know it's a COmON,
and I know it's can be considered and looked at
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or frowned upon.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
But everybody's doing it. And if you aren't being same,
on you for.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That's what said. The coach coaches have been very quiet, exactly,
and you would expect them to be. Yeah, because it
may not be to this elaborate a thing where hey,
dude's finding and going to the bookstore and buying a
hat and sweat. Churney's finding his way. The fact that
he can find his way to a sideline that easily.
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
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Speaker 2 (21:37):
Exactly just mind box with covert operations. I mean, good,
good job by him. I guess super agent man or
secret agent man. Everybody did the secret pagent thing back
in Chicago. They had a guy dressed like he was
a super fan doing the parody songs and it became
a big deal. But billre, you go, he's got to
get super agent guys secret agent going to all these
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these facilities and getting in information. But on some level
it may not be as ornate, it may not be
as complicated. You got someone on your sideline that's good
at it. You probably highre like I would guess most
teams have someone on staff. While that's not the first
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thing on the list of capabilities at the job, reading
lips and doing other things is a good thing.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I just stole your signal, right now, I know what
you're thinking. Right now?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
What am I thinking?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
You're thinking? This is a whole bunch of bologney as well.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But in the in the in the the grand gesture
of what this topic kind of entails. You do think
that there is a level of blame or just as
that has that has to happen as well.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's tough, right it. It's tough for the fact that,
like you want to be talk about integrity and fair
play and if you're going and record all this stuff
and then you're bringing it down serving it up. As
I've argued all along, what's the stuff super booster to
take one of Isaac's you know, things from his social media,
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maybe one of his burner accounts that he's not sitting
there in the front row right behind the coach trying
to get as clean a shot as he can of
the play calls. Because we saw that in the NFL
game a couple of weeks ago. I think Sean bats right,
here's his card and you can read it play in
his day and it read as gibberish. But it's a
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lot of code and the font is as small as
a cheesecake factory menu. Right, all of that, there's everything
in one place. But to that point, right, there's there's
a reason they cover their mouths. There's a reason because
while a lot of the play call changes the base, well,
not right. So game to game, week to week, there's
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there's components that will stay and the rest of it
gets switched up. But what's to say, you're super booster
can't be smart enough to do that and just put
it up on the server as like, hey, list serve
from Michigan fans and then the coaches are smart enough
to know to go there.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, well you know what.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean, Like, it doesn't take much to take it
down from oh my god, it's watergate, yeah, to all right,
this is just a little more intricate than everybody else
and they don't like Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yes, that's it. But that's what I feel.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I really feel that that's what it is because I
know for a fact from being around it my whole
life that it happens all the time, and so it's
not like a big story for me.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I just.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
If you're not doing everything in the parameters or even
close to almost being outside of the parameters six to
win in the profession that they're in right now, you
won't have a top.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
But go back to you know, the Rutgers game. You
intimate something's up, you got something to say. There's the
microphone at halftime, say it. Yeah, don't hint around it,
don't furrow your brow and try to get the reporter
to ask you again to where you just give a
little more nuanced And here I'm gonna change my tone
a little. You all read into what I'm saying. When
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I nod my head, you hit it right kind of thing. Like, so,
Georgia and Alabama and Ohio State and all of these
teams that are up there in the rankings, Florida State,
every one of you should be condemning this publicly, right,
I mean, especially now that the college playoff rankings the
first iteration come out. Yeah, like any team that's up
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the top should be calling for them to be oustered.
But you know what, it's good for business, good bad.
It sells, right, Controversy sells. It gets people talking in
the middle of the literally in the middle of the
end fell season, you talk about college football maybe a
little bit more, maybe with a little bit of disdain
and whatever. It begins, and but the vitriol and you
(26:07):
get the fan base is all excitable about it, and
the Michigan folks are passionate in defense of Jim Harball
and the program and whatever else. And for the rest
of college football. They get to go along with the ride,
but they're they're above it all because nobody's looking their way,
all right, for anything they.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Mis We talked about earlier, We talked about the World
Series and how there isn't any that wasn't really an
you know, a team we weren't rooting for in.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
That there's no hate watching here.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Does this make Michigan the most hated team in college
right now? And if they do make it, what does
that come?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, they're more hated, right, I mean Alabama people are
just tired of of course, And maybe you're just tired
of looking at Nick Saban. I don't I don't know. Yeah,
he's a powerful and attractive man, and I think he's
pretty funny when he like he's like Belichick. When they
actually let themselves be themselves, they're engaging as heavy. Yeah, right,
And that's part of it, the charismatic charm and everything
(27:08):
that comes through. But for this Michigan story, yeah, it's
good for business overall. You may not like the base
of it because you got to ask some of those
hard questions about where's that line in the sand between Hey,
we were able to pick up you know, because I
look back playing as a kid, right, We're all we
(27:28):
all at different points. Like physically, wasn't the biggest kid, right,
I'm a fire plug. But I was smarter than the
guy across from me. So what did I do? I
looked at his toes. Did you think in the second quarter?
I said, hey, buddy, you straighten out your feet. You
got a better chance of succeeding. Hell no, I knew
he was leading that way and I just push him
out of the side going to the backfield. Was I cheating? No?
(27:52):
I was smart enough to recognize his leans.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
That's That's what I'm getting to. If you're not doing
everything that you need to do, pressing the back to
tim around. Yeah, you did think about this?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
What video game when we were younger.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Gave you the chance to if you picked the same
play defensively as the offense, the chance for that that
play to not work at all, and give you one
guess on that you get the video game?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Well, sure, just go back to any Madden or any
of those and Techmobile.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Sure, I mean legit, Like if you press the play
so you're literally try to This is me playing the
video game. I would literally try to get a peek
to see what play you're doing, and if you press
the right play, they don't have a chance to get
to play well.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But we had NHL ninety four right, the great one
where you make you know, Super ninety nine Gretzky's head bleed,
right as in Swingers, But there was a play in
there if you went behind the net that was unstoppable
and you can, and so we played it is if
you went and you used it, even if unintentionally you
had to give up a goal to eaven it out
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because it was unstoppable, and especially when Ronick had the puck.
Just remember Super Ronic back in the day. Now, I
want to go play that game.
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(01:09):
We saw World Series Game five, the Rangers winning their
first title in franchise history. And now we're watching this
Lakers Clipper game come down the wire, Lakers trying to
beat the Clippers, in the regular season for the first
time since the bubble, it has been eleven straw and
now with the alley oop the trailing Lebron James Hammers
(01:32):
at home to twelve remaining one twenty four one nineteen
Bronnie James at attendance on the day of release of
the first Bronnie James trading card. You got the card off,
I don't know, I don't have it. I watched. I
decided the product was a little more than I wanted
to pay to go into the Bronnie James sweep States
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because it's a it's a McDonald's all American products, so
it's the men's and women's side, but people chasing and
some of the autographs selling for fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars,
so it's a big deal. His first licensed trading card
as we go. So there he is an attendance, watching
Dad throw it down in overtime to get the crowd
(02:16):
up and rolling the pass from Reeves to the trailing
Lebron for the one handed dunk.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Twenty one years in catching oops like that, remarkable.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Whatever whatever he does for his body in the offseason,
whatever portion of the globe he goes to whatever those
processes are. I mean, I want to tap some of
that into my veins. See if I can regenerate some
of my youth.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You know, it's crazy because I still play leagues around
around LA sometimes and pretty competitive. I mean, on my
team this season was Catino Mobile, So it's like real,
real talent.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I played. You know, I played.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh we no cat he's up in here a bunch.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, Cat's my guy. So he's on my one of
my teams. But you know, I can still catch an
oop and I can steal dunk here and there at
forty you know, and there you go. But never skip
leg day. Got to keep the spreakiness. Never skip leg day.
But also me planning the in the rec league. I
can't do this and play forty eight minutes of a
(03:15):
game at this intensity, at this intensity, with all the
mallets he's put on his body.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Man, it's just it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's the next level stuff, right, that body management, and
not to get into load management, which is a whole
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And this this game has more weight for a regular
season game, certainly here in Los Angeles it does. I
mean our guy Frostburg, big Lakers fan. Again, the memes,
(04:02):
he's got them ready as soon as the and the
gifts as soon as possible. But when you talk about
a streak like the Clippers have gone through in regular
season dominance, and that's really because it's always the big
brother little brother argument around here. Now the Clippers are
getting ready to open their own facility next week. And
(04:23):
now you make the trade for James Harden, and you've
got this collection of all stars, which has always been
the laugh right when they had all the billboards all
over the place, street lights over spotlights, like you just
went and got two huge names, and then you added
a third. Now you added Harden. You need two billboards
next to each other at this point for all the
(04:43):
name recognition in future Hall of famers that you're bringing in.
But I appreciate that there's just at least a little
bit of that that battle, that divisiveness, you know, the Giants,
Jets kind of thing. White Sox, Cubs, right, Cubs have
all the national love, but in the city, you've got
your division, as it were, and it may not mean
(05:06):
a whole lot to other folks, and certainly nationally. We
talk about the Clippers a lot because the expectations going
on a decade plus have been pretty high, yeah, and
have not been met, and for many reasons. And then
we talk about load management and how it's been applied.
We talk about unavailable stars for the playoffs, but the
expectations this year are through the roof for both these squads.
(05:29):
The Lakers after their run to the Western Conference finals
and the Clippers, well, everybody's saying they're healthy, best shape
of their lives, right, the old training camp interview you
would give on the first day, best shape of my life.
I'm ready to go.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Let's go right, right, right, No, both of these teams
have high expectations. The Clipper one. It actually it kind
of it just throws me for a loop, man. I
mean this, they already had enough to win it this
year without Harden and the cast of characters that they
had already. I believe they had a you know, a
legitimate chance regardless. Now you throw a guy like Harden
(06:04):
who has you know, obviously all the accomplishments for a
single player and a Hall of Fame player, right, he
has that resume, But to throw him in his mix
and see how he fits with that start lineup of Westbrook, Harden,
Paul George, Kawhi, Leonard and Zubos. I just don't know
(06:27):
how that works because they're going to have to be
delegated in roles and skill sets, and a lot of
their skill sets are the same.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
So I just don't know how that's going to work.
In the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I mean, they have a chance to be there at
the end obviously also, but they got to work out
some pieces too, and see how all those guys are
going to work out.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I mean with both squads, we obviously get it
down to health. And as Frostburg Astuteley points out, there
is only one basketball yeah, yeah, yeah, and you gotta
figure that part out. And I guess that's the large question.
Harden has led the he can assist number of times,
he's not the same shoot away kind of thing that
we saw once upon a time, not that he can't
(07:07):
do it on occasion. I guess that's where it comes
in philosophically, where you're at in theory versus what it
becomes in practice, because in theory, you could see a
world where you have those other three and then James
Harden is your beast of the second unit, and he
can come in and he can shoot and be the
offensive guy that we've all known and watched and then
(07:29):
watched him trip over his tongue latent games for expending
all that energy and defensively becoming a liability. I think
the larger thing is there's the angst with Harden of
he's asked out here, he's asked out there, and to me,
it's like, look, everybody wishes in their world they have
that level of agency right to where you could say,
(07:51):
you know what, I like you. We're getting along, Okay,
I don't like the guy in the front office. So
I'm gonna go work across the street. You're gonna let me,
and you're gonna help me. Not only am I gonna go,
you're gonna help me move my stuff across the street.
And that's what James Harden has had the ability to
do time and time again, and here's an opportunity to
(08:12):
come back home to play here in Los Angeles. I
think the vagabond stuff ends. I don't think we're gonna
get a shack dis or big Leprechaun like we had
with Shaquill O'Neal at the end of his I think
this is the final stop.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
It is the final stop.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Oh one well, one way or another, it as the
final stop. I was looking at it straight from the
positive that they'll pay him, he'll be in the new
arena and everything else.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
This isn't I'm being been a little bit more realistic.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's okay, yeah, no, no, Look, a little negativity is
okay a.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Little bit, because I mean just from what he's shown us, right,
and so we know he can play, and we know
when everything's good and he's happy, he's a really good player,
great player, right, But when things go wrong or he
doesn't get his way, it goes completely south. And so
whos to say that something's not going to happen in
(09:06):
this this year that rubs them the wrong way?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, sure, but it's sensitive souls.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
But it's like, do you want to really win. And
that's the thing about a lot of these superstar players
who you know, ask the trays or get out, like
do you really want to win or is there something
else to your agenda that's going on?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, and that's the question where I think a bunch
of the guys when you're looking at the Clippers, right,
they're all not at not at endgame. But we've hit
the top of the mountain and we're on the down side.
So the slope starts getting really fast. I mean, you
played in the NFL, you watched a lot of guys,
you played with guys who came after you where their careers.
That long slide comes fast, is quick. And so for
(09:46):
these for this Clipper squad, you buy in like cause
like the best scenario I think is he gives you
the opportunity for Kawhi and for Paul George to take
the nights off if they need to. Yes, right, which
I know the NBA is about load management whatever. It's
like here, tape some ice on my leg. I'm gonna
go sit court side. I can't run tonight. Yeah, that's it.
(10:09):
Like that's all you need to say. Like nobody's buying
that you're one hundred percent. So as long as you
show up showing that you gave the old college try,
you're gonna be able to take as many days off
as you want.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, and the coach can control that by minutes as well.
So it just doesn't have to be legit load management either.
It can you know, rotations can be cut a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
July third, twenty twenty. That's the date. Executive producer Justin Froster.
How you feeling tonight there? Justin?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I mean, you got your wa you gotta win, you
got your dakers?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Are you back? Oh? You know we're back? I mean
ish where we go? Did you see that assist from
Camp Reddish off the back Iron to Wood?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Did you see that Christian Woods flying in? How great
was that? No kitchen gang, we're watching games? Shaken in
their boots Man one thirty for Michael Michael right, what
we call Mike here on the show? Michael, you think
we can rankle his feathers?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
You think he's shaken. I don't think he's shaking Michael alone.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh, absolutely, after you watch this, I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
They caught the Clippers on the on the on the
second night of a back to back here too.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Don't a Clipper problem. That's fair point. It is a
fair point, and it is the first week of the season.
It is in theory.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Physically they're short handed to let me throw let me
throw out one more thing. They just traded all those players,
so they're a little short handed as well. But I'm
not taking anything.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
One of those guys playing three minutes of stand around.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I mean, you can always rotational guys those are they're
not wrote Robert Coverton is done. You think Robert Coverington's done?
You think Marcus Morris is done? I know he's got
he maybe he may do. You know who's done with
the Clippers. I was like, yeah, they're done.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I they're done.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I'm might side with you on that. I just don't
believe in that core.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I mean, obviously all Hall of Fame players, it's a
great core without him, yes, and they were functioning better
without him. It's not even about the talent he had.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Just just saying in terms of your rotations, the guys
that they got rid of are not guys you're banking
on for other than filling up a couple of minutes
at the end of quarters.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
No, but was a starter, But tom was a starter,
was was Covington was a sort of.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
These guys were starters at points.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
On this team, though, Mike, these guys are good.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just why they're not there anymore. I may have expiring
contracts there.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I agree with it. I agree with the getting better
with the trade. No word, I mean, don't trust me.
I'm with you on that. But what I'm saying is
these guys are players. They're not friends not being on
the roster. These guys are people that can contribute to
a team. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
At the risk of being called Steve Smith's senior on
the show, Jay a GE's at this point in their
respective career. Zag Okay, alright, Look, it's not disrespecting them
as NBA players. It's like what we talk about it
with NFL players. Somebody's got to be ranked fifty third
on a roster if we're going top to bottom.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
For sure, he's got They just brought PJ. Tucker back
and he played probably thirty five minutes in this game.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So because he's PJ Tucks.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
No, he's because he's a he's an Yeah, that guy
though Marcus Morris was too imed.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
This guy bigger heart, and the money worked out there
you go.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
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Speaker 5 (14:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
They've got a tradition in Chicago on the score when
the Bears win on a Sunday Monday is victory chicken.
That's very rare, right, so when it shows up, it's that. No,
that's what I mean, because the chicken eight showing up
unless you win exactly like, they're not bringing you anything, right,
(14:59):
it's then old rule.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You get nothing is there like a de facto like
spam or bolognia something.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Now, spam, if done right and marinated properly, can be delicious.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Really.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Oh yeah, there's a Japanese thing you do with some
sushi and the nori and some spices.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
And stuff that's good. Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I think it's masubi. Is the way it's pronounced. Something
we're trying to master that. We've had it at restaurants
and now, yeah, we're trying to figure that one out,
no question about it. But you know, we've had a
great night tonight going through the world of sports. And
then a story that's still percolating behind the scenes is
this whole mess at Michigan sign stealing sign communication. Here's
(15:45):
a guy dressing up like he belongs on the sideline
of a team, all this craziness. Pete Thable had this
out a little bit earlier. Sources on a Big Ten
Coaches Call on Thursday, a vast majority of the league's
coaches encouraged Commissioner Tony Petitti to punish Michigan omitted sign
stealing investigation. Quote Collectively, the coaches want the Big Ten
(16:09):
to act. There was an athletic report that came out
a little bit earlier, you know, with a poll, and
some of the responses were pretty good, you know, the
old unnamed coach or whatever. Well, unfortunately, you know that
that's the way it's gonna go. You know, it's the sources, sources,
(16:32):
but at this point people aren't going to put their
name on it. But from the survey, and this was
put out Bruce Feldman, Max Olson quote, my god, what
idiots doing. It is one thing getting caught is an
entirely other thing. That's from an SEC staffer. This from
a sun Belt head coach quote. In some ways they
(16:54):
should be held accountable.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
For just sheer stupidity. Oh my god, AAC head coach quote.
If all of this is factually true, look at how
their record change since they started doing this, something we've
chronicled quite a bit. Allegedly ahead of the run, they've
had these last three seasons talking about estimation of how
(17:17):
much it's worth, this whole athletic survey saying it could
be worth as much as ten points per game, and
on and on.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You're just shaking your head. What do you make of
all of this, Carrie.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
It's spam. It's a bunch of spam.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Spam.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
It's a bunch of spam.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
It's just salty. It makes you salty. Is that all
it's all about?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
This happens on every level, man, and I mean all
the way from my little league AYFL football team. We
would try to get this, try to see what their
other teams doing and what their signs are.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
We're doing it in NFL. It's nothing new.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
That's why you got these giant play calls, wristbands, that's
dummy calls, signs with pictures of television stars out there.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And if you're playing against your rivals teams and schools,
you obviously obviously have to change the science going into
the game. We know that going in, we know that
we played Tom Brady twice a year and their signs
aren't going to be the same, and we're going to
try to see if we know their science, and we're
going to try to sign a player that was on
the Newtlyan Patriots team to tell him to be on
(18:26):
board with us for that week, to tell us.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
What why do you torture that guy during the week.
What do you do when you bring him in as
or is he just mad that he's no longer a
Patriot Now he's gonna get it to give us all
this stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
So all that stuff happens, and so the fact that
they're making this thing such a big deal, I guess
the big deal is they got caught. But it's happening
all over the place. And I think that's why the
other coaches and people talking behind the curtains, because.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's when Smith and I have argued about it, and
he's calling for them to be defeated and all this
other stuff. And I laugh and I go, it's the NCAA.
They have no teeth and they're very slow moving to
get at any action in a couple of weeks. When
you've got a top fourteen, the people are interested in
watching were good regardless, right, they were already good? Yes, great? Yeah,
(19:12):
And it's this area and I get it. The electronic signs,
the fact that the budget only needed to be fifteen
thousand dollars. Those guys were grossly underpaid for the amount
of performance. Right, No, think about that. Right, all of
you out there where you're whatever you do for a
living and however you're getting by, we appreciate and we
love you all. Thank you for being part of our
extended family, giving us a few minutes of your time,
(19:35):
laughing with us, shaking your fist and being mad at us,
following us on Twitter. Carry twenty five roads, me over
at Swollen Dome, wherever you're at on that continuum. But
you think about how hard you work for your dollars. Yes,
and in this case, we're talking about scouting at forty allegedly,
you know, the final receipts were forty games all across
this country. Fifteen thousand dollars. That's only according to the
(20:01):
budgets that at least from what they've been able to
uncover at this point.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, that's all the trips cost.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So we're talking Spirit Airlines Alaska. You're now free to
move about the country. So if you book it in advance,
maybe you get a nice deal on Southwest, maybe you
got some frequent flyer miles from your credit cards, whatever,
But fifteen grand that's it. Yeah, it's not look at
that return on investment, the winds, the bulls, the recruiting dollars,
(20:29):
because think about what it costs to apply to a college.
Add all that, add the boosters who are turning out
their pockets like they're going to Disneyland.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Have you liked that?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
That's the good.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Have you seen the meme of the dad, the Disney dad.
He was sitting there aut of breakfast and the bill
came and his whole expression chains he was at the
happiest place on the planet and the bill. It's kind
of what we're talking about right now. But I think
it's no. But I really, man, I know it's a COmON,
and I know it's can be considered and looked at
(21:03):
or frowned upon.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
But everybody's doing it. And if you aren't being same,
on you for.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That's what said. The coach coaches have been very quiet, exactly,
and you would expect them to be. Yeah, because it
may not be to this elaborate a thing where hey,
dude's finding and going to the bookstore and buying a
hat and sweat. Churney's finding his way. The fact that
he can find his way to a sideline that easily.
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
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Speaker 2 (21:37):
Exactly just mind box with covert operations. I mean, good,
good job by him. I guess super agent man or
secret agent man. Everybody did the secret pagent thing back
in Chicago. They had a guy dressed like he was
a super fan doing the parody songs and it became
a big deal. But billre, you go, he's got to
get super agent guys secret agent going to all these
(21:58):
these facilities and getting in information. But on some level
it may not be as ornate, it may not be
as complicated. You got someone on your sideline that's good
at it. You probably highre like I would guess most
teams have someone on staff. While that's not the first
(22:19):
thing on the list of capabilities at the job, reading
lips and doing other things is a good thing.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I just stole your signal, right now, I know what
you're thinking. Right now?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
What am I thinking?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
You're thinking? This is a whole bunch of bologney as well.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But in the in the in the the grand gesture
of what this topic kind of entails. You do think
that there is a level of blame or just as
that has that has to happen as well.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's tough, right it. It's tough for the fact that,
like you want to be talk about integrity and fair
play and if you're going and record all this stuff
and then you're bringing it down serving it up. As
I've argued all along, what's the stuff super booster to
take one of Isaac's you know, things from his social media,
(23:12):
maybe one of his burner accounts that he's not sitting
there in the front row right behind the coach trying
to get as clean a shot as he can of
the play calls. Because we saw that in the NFL
game a couple of weeks ago. I think Sean bats right,
here's his card and you can read it play in
his day and it read as gibberish. But it's a
(23:33):
lot of code and the font is as small as
a cheesecake factory menu. Right, all of that, there's everything
in one place. But to that point, right, there's there's
a reason they cover their mouths. There's a reason because
while a lot of the play call changes the base, well,
not right. So game to game, week to week, there's
(23:56):
there's components that will stay and the rest of it
gets switched up. But what's to say, you're super booster
can't be smart enough to do that and just put
it up on the server as like, hey, list serve
from Michigan fans and then the coaches are smart enough
to know to go there.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, well you know what.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean, Like, it doesn't take much to take it
down from oh my god, it's watergate, yeah, to all right,
this is just a little more intricate than everybody else
and they don't like Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yes, that's it. But that's what I feel.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I really feel that that's what it is because I
know for a fact from being around it my whole
life that it happens all the time, and so it's
not like a big story for me.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I just.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
If you're not doing everything in the parameters or even
close to almost being outside of the parameters six to
win in the profession that they're in right now, you
won't have a top.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
But go back to you know, the Rutgers game. You
intimate something's up, you got something to say. There's the
microphone at halftime, say it. Yeah, don't hint around it,
don't furrow your brow and try to get the reporter
to ask you again to where you just give a
little more nuanced And here I'm gonna change my tone
a little. You all read into what I'm saying. When
(25:23):
I nod my head, you hit it right kind of thing. Like, so,
Georgia and Alabama and Ohio State and all of these
teams that are up there in the rankings, Florida State,
every one of you should be condemning this publicly, right,
I mean, especially now that the college playoff rankings the
first iteration come out. Yeah, like any team that's up
(25:46):
the top should be calling for them to be oustered.
But you know what, it's good for business, good bad.
It sells, right, Controversy sells. It gets people talking in
the middle of the literally in the middle of the
end fell season, you talk about college football maybe a
little bit more, maybe with a little bit of disdain
and whatever. It begins, and but the vitriol and you
(26:07):
get the fan base is all excitable about it, and
the Michigan folks are passionate in defense of Jim Harball
and the program and whatever else. And for the rest
of college football. They get to go along with the ride,
but they're they're above it all because nobody's looking their way,
all right, for anything they.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Mis We talked about earlier, We talked about the World
Series and how there isn't any that wasn't really an
you know, a team we weren't rooting for in.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
That there's no hate watching here.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Does this make Michigan the most hated team in college
right now? And if they do make it, what does
that come?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, they're more hated, right, I mean Alabama people are
just tired of of course, And maybe you're just tired
of looking at Nick Saban. I don't I don't know. Yeah,
he's a powerful and attractive man, and I think he's
pretty funny when he like he's like Belichick. When they
actually let themselves be themselves, they're engaging as heavy. Yeah, right,
And that's part of it, the charismatic charm and everything
(27:08):
that comes through. But for this Michigan story, yeah, it's
good for business overall. You may not like the base
of it because you got to ask some of those
hard questions about where's that line in the sand between Hey,
we were able to pick up you know, because I
look back playing as a kid, right, We're all we
(27:28):
all at different points. Like physically, wasn't the biggest kid, right,
I'm a fire plug. But I was smarter than the
guy across from me. So what did I do? I
looked at his toes. Did you think in the second quarter?
I said, hey, buddy, you straighten out your feet. You
got a better chance of succeeding. Hell no, I knew
he was leading that way and I just push him
out of the side going to the backfield. Was I cheating? No?
(27:52):
I was smart enough to recognize his leans.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
That's That's what I'm getting to. If you're not doing
everything that you need to do, pressing the back to
tim around. Yeah, you did think about this?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
What video game when we were younger.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Gave you the chance to if you picked the same
play defensively as the offense, the chance for that that
play to not work at all, and give you one
guess on that you get the video game?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Well, sure, just go back to any Madden or any
of those and Techmobile.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Sure, I mean legit, Like if you press the play
so you're literally try to This is me playing the
video game. I would literally try to get a peek
to see what play you're doing, and if you press
the right play, they don't have a chance to get
to play well.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But we had NHL ninety four right, the great one
where you make you know, Super ninety nine Gretzky's head bleed,
right as in Swingers, But there was a play in
there if you went behind the net that was unstoppable
and you can, and so we played it is if
you went and you used it, even if unintentionally you
had to give up a goal to eaven it out
(29:02):
because it was unstoppable, and especially when Ronick had the puck.
Just remember Super Ronic back in the day. Now, I
want to go play that game.
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