November 3, 2023 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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a day after the World Series, already looking at it
next year.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
A lot of the odds are outde me one thing.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Do you not believe how many tweets and texts I
got saying, wow, Jason really ducked crowning de Gromme insures
are as World Series champions.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
All right, let me be honest with it. Let me
be because I I really I didn't know how I
was going to feel with the Rangers winning the World Series.
Now the word the disaster scenario was averted. Nobody from
the NL East won the World Series. Okay, so I
will accept whatever the second result is, cause that's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And the Yankees didn't make the plants. I have to
worry about that. That's good. So yeah, I didn't know
how I was going to feel.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And the Rangers won last night, and I said to myself, yeah,
it's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
No, you were happy, Harmon was right, uh series and
the MVP.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I was happy for you for that, But I know
I didn't. I didn't really care that they won because
the Grumme and shirts are really didn't do anything and
they still get rain. Yeah, okay, still go down in history. Yes, series.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Wait, when you get a ring and the final game
you're wearing the playoff hoodie sweatshirt because you're not actually
on the active roster, you win, you win, Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So I was actually fine with it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I was goin to know they weren't instrumental Psyche's of
the relief pitchers, or maybe helping Evaldi right, because you
want to talk about a guy walking a tight Ropevaldi
was as we were talking Carrie Rhodes in for you
last night, and when you can strand nine guys in
scoring position.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
When you decide to bunt with your number three hitter,
you get what you got. They got what they deserve.
When you're bunting with your number You know me, I
hate the bunt anyway, but you but you're bunting with
your numbers. You deserve to not score runs. You deserve it.
Well deserve it, all of them.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
We talked about it before the series began, and one
of the things I feared was potentially the Hey, they'll
figure out how to manufacture runs. Yeah, but that became
their only strategy. Yeah, get them on, get them over,
and then they're standing waiting at you from second and
third base.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I really I was.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I was fine because of that because Scherzer and de
Gram didn't do anything. And look, the Rangers don't care
because they won the World Series. No one should they care.
They won the World Series. The Rangers were terrific. Right,
they win the World Series, they get enough starting pitching.
You know, Look, Nathan Valdi suddenly is somehow suddenly the
big postseason ace. Now we're talking about him and suner kershaw. Hey, fine, right,
(03:20):
I get it, but they didn't do anything. So I'm
okay with it. I'm okay with knowing that Max Schurzer
is just deteriorating before our eyes and we don't have him.
We have the Rangers' best prospect instead, and Jacob de
Gram may not pitch again until the end of next
year if he does, so I'm okay with it. I'm
okay with it. The big lesson to takeaway, to be
quite honest with you, and it's.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
The other teams can win, I can suck, and I
can denigrate their record.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
No no, no, no, no, no no. This is good.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I gotta tell you. I don't care about that. But uh,
never underestimate what the mental edge a team gets by
going for it, because you look at the Rangers, who
got absolutely nothing from the guys they went out and
spent the most money on and put the most capital
out there on. Right, they spend all the money on
to grom they get basically nothing, from him, and they're
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not gonna get anything from next year. They go out
and get Max Scherzer, who was okay during the regular season, right, fine,
regular season, he was fine.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Playoffs he was awful. He was awful.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
He looked like a closer who you're asking him to
go more than one inning and he couldn't really do.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It, no physically, no. Watch the deterioration right quick.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, and you know that's gonna be it next year
for Max Scherzer. Every year from the Mets signed him,
I knew the first year was gonna be the best.
Then the next year wouldn't be as good as the first,
and the third year wouldn't be as good as a second. Right,
And that's where it's going for Max Scherzer. But sometimes
when you just send that message, whether it's in the
offseat where you have a good team, we're loaded that riot,
Seeger Simmey and we everything. Hey, let's go get that
(04:42):
ace pitcher. All right, that's great, Hey we lost him.
Guess what, we're gonna go get another race pitcher the deadline.
We believe in this team and we're gonna go do it.
And even though you didn't get anything from the guys,
you still won. This Rangers team should have never won
the World Series. They're one of the least talented teams.
They're barely more talented than Diamondbacks are. Right, was an
NBA jam World Series. The Rangers two stars were better
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than the Diamondbacks two stars, and that's why they won.
They should have never won. They're not that talented, but
they go on and win. Never underestimate just the mentality
of a team and the belief you have when the
entire organization is on the same page of we're going
for it, here's the ace pitchure we need. But he's hurt,
doesn't matter. We're going to get another guy, but he stinks,
doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
That's kind of what the Rangers did, and you could
tell that the entire season. They never lost their belief,
even when things got tougher down the stretch. They wind
up squeaking into the playoffs as a wild card. They
don't win the division, and they go on and they
don't lose a game on the road.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You know that's a team that was locked in, focused
the entire organization moving forward. There was no well, we
kind of sold the deadline, but we didn't really and
can we go forward?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Can we still win? Are we still good enough? Are
we not? There was none of that, and that can't
be undersold enough that when you go for it, you
send a mat and you continue to go for it
even it doesn't work out. You send a message of
the team, we think we're good enough, and there's never
any fracture. There's never any We go through the motions,
never waiting for the other shoot to drop going we're
going to start losing at some point. The Rangers had
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that belief and that's what the Graminchuerser brought them well.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And the other part that you get into it is
having the veteran manager. As much as we love to
talk about analytics, unless we don't and over analyze those
folks that are up in the booths and their relationship
to the managers down in the dugout. And certainly, look
we're here in Los Angeles, we do it all the
(06:31):
time as related to how much is Dave Roberts, how
much is the front office, and what kind of game
of telephone are we playing there with roster management, pitching management,
et cetera. Where's Bochi's in that dugout? Getting the job done. Right,
he comes back wins his fourth World Series. We talked
with John Paul Morosi last night. I mean, you now
(06:52):
make the argument that he's your best manager of this
modern era.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
He got a couple of guys with more World Series.
He's tied with Tory and one ahead of Larusa. And
then we can start to quibble about the pieces that
roll through. But veteran leadership, Dusty Baker there in Houston,
calm the storm. So it's everything could be swirling underneath,
but we're all cool, like a bunch of little Fonsie.
(07:19):
Shout out Henry Winkler. It was his birthday the other
day and he's got a book out and all that fun.
But just that idea of calming and having this ability.
This was great. This one from MLB Network earlier this morning.
Bruce Bochi was able to pencil in Marcus simeon leadoff
spot in all one hundred and seventy nine games they played,
no injury, no sick days, no days off. Your leadoff
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man was there, and he came up huge at the
back end of this World series. Unlike Mookie Betts, who
was penciling the leadoff spot every day and then came
up very small.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, you know, he looked like he was having fun
at the World Series.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, oh yeah, definitely, yeah, a hell of a time
until Corey Seeger looked at him like, yeah, what do
you got, Frostburg?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
How does the.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Field know that that the Grom and sures A combined
have more World Series titles than Mets?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It feels pretty good, right, we have two? Mets have
two sixty nine eighty six. Yeah, they have two. They
have two. That's have three. That's not more.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I just liked that you didn't say nineteen sixty nine
the joke, right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Sure, greater than Sureser doesn't count with the with the
with the Nationals because it was before he became a Met.
It's got to be Mets or after. You don't make
that rules. It's got to be mets Are after he
got the ring, doesn't it. It's got to be Now
if you said, how the ring, how would you feel
if de Gram, sures Are, and Travis Jankowski all have
more rings than the Mets?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Do that Will Smith combined has more rings than the Mets.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, that's the thing. We gotta we gotta just sign
Will Smith because if you have him. You win the
World Series last three years on the World serious winner.
It's got to get Will Smith. I mean, I mean
there's a lot of Will Smiths out there. Got to
make sure you get the right one right for.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
You know, when you're looking it up in the phone book,
you really do need to little do a little more research.
But absolutely, no, that was fun last night. We were
sorry you weren't here to partake it. A great end
and now we're watching a fantastic Thursday night football game. Yeah,
Steelers and Titans and Will Levis, who he talked about
a bit on Monday show Man. He's got the mentality
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of all those veteran quarterbacks that I love so much
that when they come in they have no conscience. I've
got the arm strength, I've got the ability. I'm getting
the ball there.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
No, he's been good. He's been good.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
But let's not lose lose side of this. I went positive.
Let's that Kenny Pickett stinks. Okay, let let's be let's
be honest, all right, because he's.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Three inches of dirt from having thrown a touchdown right
before halftime.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
He was also just three inches of dirt for a
pick six. You know, what it was. It fell harmlessly
into the ground.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Look, look, look, let's for everybody who really loved jumping
up and down when I said in the offseason, Kenny
Pickett is just a tiny bit better than Zack Wilson.
And now you don't even know if Kenny Pickett's better
than Zack Wilson. And all the hate that I got,
oh you can keep people the network were like, are
you kidding me? Then Kenny Pickett's bad. Oh you know,
(10:01):
Kenny Pickett. Look at the last five games. You stop
throwing interceptions, right, that means he's good. No, not throwing
interceptions doesn't mean you're progressing as a quarterback. It just
means you're not throwing interceptions. Kenny Pickett is a limited quarterback.
Kenny Pickett has pretty good weapons around. He's got two
pretty good running backs, he's got two pretty good wide receivers,
and the Steelers find a way to not put points
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on the board. And there are different combinations of players
who are available not available, but the one common denominator
has been Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett is limited. He is
not even an elite game manager. He is a game manager.
And when you don't have elite talent around you, this
is what you wind up seeing. And this is Kenny Pickett, who,
as you're seeing, makes really bad throws, throws behind his
(10:46):
receivers a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's just not very good.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And all the wanting and hoping and hey, I'm gonna
hope that Kenny Pickett is better. And when you say
Kenny Pickett is bad, I'm gonna get really mad at you.
Kenny Pickett is just a tech. If you said, right now,
if I could have Kenny Pickett or Zach Wilson Man,
that's close.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's close. I mean, I still like PI Kenny.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Pickett WI, but that's really close.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I would get rid of both of their respective coordinators
and QB coaches. I got to figure out who that
guy is.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh wait, do I do? I get Matt Canada too. No,
but that's apparently because apparently it's his fault. It's not
Kenny Pickett's fault, it's Matt Canada's. Look, I'm not gonna
blame Canada for all of it. He's on the sidelines tonight.
They brought that was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
But clearly he stinks in terms of Blake all play
selection because individually and Najie Harris, I think has been
a bit overrated, although he's has having a nice night tonight,
right got the early touchdown run, He's got nine for
fifty seven and a score, a couple of catches as well.
But well, yeah, they figured out the Russian game.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
They figured out and are a pretty good combination and Warren.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Warren's the better, more explosive back, certainly a better receiver
out of the backfield, but you look at the receiving corps,
You're not able to really use George Pickens in this game.
He's got one reception for two yards. You've got Deontay
Johnson everything short and then hope and pray for yak.
(12:15):
So this is one of those where you would load
up on guys like Brandon Marshall and Kwon Bolden in
the like who like to block down field. That's what
you need if you're gonna run an offense like this.
It looks guys that can seal on the outside.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It looks like watching Ben Roethlisberger at the end when
Roethlisberger could throw the ball seven yards and you're, hey,
make something out of that. What do you mean, make something?
I can't throw the ball more than this, make something
out of it. Makes he makes that. That's what it's
like watching Kenny Pitt. Two gloves Kenny, you know, I
mean from two glove Teddy. He was not doing anymore.
Two gloves Kenny. No, that's real, That's what it is.
Kenny Pickett is just a guy. He's not even an
elite game manager. He's not even brock Perty. He is
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just a game manager.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
But you know he is undefeated, you know, against the
spread in prime time.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah there, well, hey, look there's positives. I'm not saying
there's not positives. And that may be the one Kenny Pitt.
That's the first line of Wikipedia page entry Kenny Pickett
undefeated against the spread in primes.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
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Speaker 1 (13:15):
This is all on George Pickens because Kenny Pickett throws
a really nice past him in the corner of the
end zone. You heard you, Yeah, maybe stepping up a
little bit up in the when.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
The atmosphere and it was grabbed and he said he
hunked out on it.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It still might be Kenny Pickett's faul. I don't know
how it might be Kenny Pickett's fault. But Pickett throws
a touchdown, and George Pickens has to know where he
is on the field. He's got to know I'm in
the end zone. I got a toe tap. I got
to make sure I get my foot down. He has
all kinds of room to get his second foot down,
and instead just thought I can catch this, doesn't matter
what no field awareness, no awareness where he's at all.
(13:52):
It was a third down play and he comes down.
You're gonna watch this and go, how does he not
come down and bounce because he doesn't take the care
to do what the best wide receiver than the NFL
need to do, and that's I'm in the.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
End zone, bring my foot down.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Doesn't do it, steps out of bounds with his second
foot and it's inexcusable. When you see it, you'll see
how inexcusable it is. And I don't know is it
gonna be on the bench for a while. If I'm
Mike Tomlin, I got to think about it. Because he
cost the Steelers four points. Since it was a third
down play, it turned a fourth down they had to
kick a field goal in the thirteen to thirteen game
late in the third quarter. Those four points could wind
(14:25):
up being the difference. It's all on George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah, I mean it was just a lazy end of route.
I mean, having no idea and field presence because there's
a lot of green around him, right, pretty easy catch
if he concentrates. It's not like you're having a safety
barreling down on you getting ready to take you out.
That was legitimately a all right, just know where you're
at on the field. Spot your feet, I mean, which
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these guys do a million times in the practice. Right,
You've seen workouts. It's like, all right, here's my toe tap.
All right, here's my toe tap. Get that JUG's gone
up to one hundred miles an hour. Watch me still
concentrate and get my feet down. And here, I mean
just non shalant.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I can't have it. I mean, look, go back to
the Mike singletary rant.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Kenny, Kenny Picketts isn't gonna throw a lot of good passes.
You gotta make sure what he throws a good one
and you get a touchdown for him.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I know you and Kenny want to double down.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
He's one of the way he was, so you gotta
make sure that they're.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Not that rare.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's the blood.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
His receivers aren't quite to where the Ravens have been
at times this year, but they've led him down on
a number of occasions.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Dude, this is this is where you you have to
come through. You have to come through on a play
like that because you don't know what Kenny Pickett's next
throw is going to be into the stands. You have
no idea the larger issue.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Take it.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Take it away from your Kenny Pickett slander is just
the margin for error in these games. You don't have it.
Four points is a lot when he over under is
thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
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Speaker 6 (16:27):
It was?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
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Speaker 2 (16:27):
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Speaker 3 (16:28):
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Speaker 1 (16:30):
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What movie was this song featured in? Band of Horses?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
This is the band. Yeah, so we're asking what movie
was it featured in? Definitely not Silence of the Lambs. No,
I'm gonna say the one with the dude in it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Not Big Lebowski. Really no, not big Lebowski joining us
on the hotline. Maybe our next guest knows longtime FanDuel
TV anchor, we're gonna talk about the biggest moment, one
of the big moments in his career coming up as well.
It is Todd Shrump, who fortunately or unfortunately is also
a lifelong Minnesota Vikings fand.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
We're very sorry about everything the last few days, I
have to say.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
But here's the thing. It was after the two thousand
and nine NFC Championship game where they lost to the Saints,
which turned out to beat bounty Gate. And then of
course they changed the overtime rules after that game, too
late for the Vikings and all that. But I went
for a walk after losing that heartbreak of the game
to go to the super Bowl, and I didn't stop
walking for two and a half hours. And I sat
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there and I'm like, this team doesn't even know I exist?
What is wrong with me? But that's what happens when
you fall in love with teams. And it's funny. My
cousin and I talk about this all the time because
he's for Minnesota as well, obviously, and he said, why
couldn't our parents have given us some other team.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
To root for?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
This has just led to so much heartbreak. So yeah,
the last couple of days, I mean, we did get
a hocket scientists to replace Kirk Cousins, so maybe there's
something there. But I yeah, being a Vikings fan, just
when you think you've seen it all, they event new
ways to disappoint you.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'm a Jets fan, Mike's a Bears fan. We're with you, Yeah,
I mean it's there, We're all. Yeah, it's the same,
the same deep end of the pool. All three of
us here, Bud.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
I appreciate it. The misery truly does love company in
this case.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
So I'm glad to.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Hang with you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
All right, let me now, let me ask a question.
Let let's test and see how deep your love of
the Vikings goes.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Are you ready?
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Okay? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Iep is your love? He's going on Beg's.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I could guarantee you picked the winners of all three
Big Breeders Cup races this weekend.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Or super Bowl. I want the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Wow, I can't even get the second half out, Dude.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I wasn't even gonna I was gonna say, Josh Dobbs
lead you to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I was gonna say, playoffs. Oh, Josh Dobbs, get you
to the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Well, I mean here, there's the whole thing. Give me
the playoffs is fine. I mean, Kirk Cousins does that.
So no, I just I've gone to the point where
I believe this, But yet I still hang around and
they give me hope. I just don't think it's happening
in my lifetime, and.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
That scares me.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
I don't. It's like the Cubs fans who never thought
it would happen. Their lifetime, and you hear about the
one hundred year old Cubs fan who finally saw the
World Series. I'm going to hang on as long as
I can, but it may take to be one hundred
to see a Viking Super Bowl win.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
All right now, let me let me take this now.
One of the big highlights you care you told we
talked about it last year with you do one of
the biggest things for TVG when you got piled driven
by Jerry the King Lawler, very famous moment. Would you
be willing to be piled dry? Pile driven?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Driven?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Drive, pile driven again for a Viking Super Bowl? Another
pile driver for a Viking Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
My neck is seizing up as we speak. I told
everyone I said that was a one off.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
I walked away going.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Wrestlers are absolutely athletes and the King for real and
never be piled driven. Gosh, you know what, No, it's
probably not worth that. It's probably not worth that. That's
probably where I draw the line.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Wow, another pile another pile driver, which is basically banned.
Right there you go. You got one of those before
they outlawed. What did it?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
What did it feel like like?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What did it feel like? Because when I was little.
I remember all my friends would do that. We do
the wrestling moves, and the figure four leg lock was
so unbelievably painful. I'm like, oh my god, oh my god,
oh my god, what did the pile driver feel like
when it happened to you?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
So do you want to know how it's how it's
supposed to go down? Because I only tell this story
off Eric. I tell her that at dinner parties when
people want to ask.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Me, oh, no, no, I want to hear. I want
to hear, didn't you. I want to hear the party store, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
We're we're giving it. We're giving away the magic. So
the king basically tells me how the match is going
to go, and he goes, I'm going you're you're partner,
and we had partners for this. He had a partner
and had a partner, and he goes, your partner's going
to abandon you. Now it's just you be in the ring.
I'm like, okay. He goes, I'm going to kick you
in the stomach, Like all right, Then you're going to
(21:05):
take your head, You're going to tuck it up in
between my legs, and then I'm going to get you vertical.
We're going to drop to the ring and my legs
are going to cushion your head. And I looked at him,
I'm like, okay.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah, in theory, right, they just come together and you
get a cushion.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, all right, of course, you know,
I'm a supreme athlete. I do this all the time,
so if the king messes up, I'm good. So before
the match, we were meeting an area where no one
can see this, and he he said, okay, let's let
me see if I can get you a vertical. So
I touched my legs up. He gets me like six
inches off the ground and he puts me down. He goes,
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how much do you weigh? I wait, two forty five.
He's like okay. So then now he tries again. He
gets me probably two and a half feet off the ground,
but not vertical, and he goes, all right, I think
we can do it. Do it. So the match happens,
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I get abandoned, I'm in the ring. He kicks me
in the stomach, and just like he said, and that's
why I said, the athletes, he gets me completely vertical.
We dropped to the ring, but I feel the right
side at the top of my head hit the ring
and I got one of those next singers. So if
you watch the replay, I'm so concerned that I've got
this next singer. I pop up and if you look
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at him, he goes get down. I lay back down.
They take me on a flatboard. They take me to
the far end of the parking lot of Sam Houston
Racecourse because I went down to Texas to do this
and they let me out. But to this day, I
always think about that next thing, and I'm like, that
could have gone terribly wrong. But he's a complete pro.
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I was a complete amateur, and that's why I said
it was a one off, and I'm so glad I
did it. And it's amazing how many people to this day,
because you're going back that was about nineteen years ago,
and people will come up and ask for out. Sure,
King Lawler, and remember that moment.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's his dark side, that's your dark side of the
moon man. That's gonna be it. That's it.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Oh yeah, no, no, that is absolutely that is what
I'm going to leave this earth with. One of my
biggest accomplishments. You know, Michaelangelo has his Sistine chapel. I've
got being piled driven by the.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
King well, and now we have twenty two races over
the next two days, all the horses coming from I've
been watching all the workouts online because I'm a degenerate
in the morning when I can't sleep, Todd, So when
we look at this, the build up, the anticipation, how
do you pace yourself and can you keep your neck
you know and head on a swivel after being piled
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driven all those years ago.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
I was just saying to your amazing producer Justin and
he probably told you guys this to just give you
an idea of the panetic pace. I called in last
night when you guys weren't on air.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I was here. I'm always here. I mean, come on,
living in the studio. More tips you can get, the better,
just the answers.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
The phone and he goes hello, and I'm like, it's
Todd Trumck from Fanbuel TV. He's like, yeah, it twenty
five and so he's like, no, I think it's I
think it's tomorrow. At first he thought I was calling
in with some type of breaking news in the world.
(24:23):
That's just one example of how it gets. It gets
a predetic pace and with those morning shows, and I'm
glad you watch them because we've done ten days from
seven am to ten am Pacific time, just showing the
workouts live. There's over two hundred horses that come from
across the world and across the country for these two
days of racing, so there's a lot to keep track of.
It's great you're running on adrenaline, but it is one
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of those things and you guys know it as well.
When you lead up to, say the playoffs in any sport,
or maybe up to the super Bowl, you do all
these shows and by the time you get to the
actual event, there's not much gas in the tank. But
I love it so much I wouldn't want to be
anywhere else. And you know, everyone knows the Kentucky Derby,
but for those who follow the sport, they know the
two biggest days are the Breeders' Cup. They're the best
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betting days and they have the best horses for memory.
So those horses that you saw competing in the Kentucky Derby,
they're three year olds. They only get one chance. You
won't see them next year in the Kentucky Derby. That's
just one division. So This is every division that we
have in thoroughbred racing, every type of discipline, from sprinting
on the turf to going long on the grass, to
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sprinting on the dirt, to going long on the dirt,
to younger horses to older horses. They're all here. And
then you add in the international part of it, where
Japan has some of their amazing champions over here this year,
and then always coming over is Aidan O'Brien and his
contingent from Ireland, and then the Dolphin, who's a global powerhouse.
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They have horses coming in from all over the world.
It is phenomenal. And if you're just a casualist sports fan,
and I think in southern California we take for granted's
so many of our sporting venues. It kind of takes
someone from out of town to take us to a
game to realize, wow, this is in our backyard. You know,
Chavez Ravine is treasured and should be and is a
(26:11):
phenomenal experience to go to a Dodger game. Santa Anita
is as iconic of a sporting venue you'll find. Yes,
it's horse racing, but when you sit in that grand
stand and you look out at the San Gabriel Mountains,
and you think those mountains have been there for centuries,
and that has been the view out of that grand
stand for over one hundred years, and it changes every day.
There's nothing like it anywhere in the world. It's fun
(26:33):
to watch the international competitors come over here who haven't
been to Santa Anita before and they're just awestruck at
what a beautiful facility it is. We're fortunate to have
that in southern California and that's why Santa Anita is
going to host the Breeders' Cup for a record eleventh
time now.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Now, todd one thing though, as you talk about the
average horse racing fan knows, hey, we're looking at Arabian
Night being the big horse. Now didn't get a favorite
bullpole position on the draw. So a two part question
for you here. One still overwhelming favorite and two isn't
every year there's a horse named Arabian Knight. I think
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there is, like Night is big, Arabian Nights big, and
the breeders got breaters this big year. I think I
feel like every year no Arabian Night, Arabian Night, I
think I think you're fooling me.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And we're bringing back the same horses.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Statistically, I can't back that up for you, but I
absolutely think you're right. I think you're absolutely right. I
hadn't taken time to think about that, but I do
believe there has been a thematic trend in the last
few years and big races with Arabian A Knight, and
somewhere in the names. As far as this particular horse,
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Arabian Night, he's really coming. At the beginning of the year,
Bob Bafford was trying to hint that this horse was
as good as American Pharaoh, and if you watched his
races as a two year old, you kind of bought
into it. His first race is a three year old
was sensational, and everyone thought, if this work stays healthy
and things work out, maybe he is just going to
(28:05):
roll through the spring Classics for three year olds. Instead,
he got an injury, he went to the sidelines. He
re emerged in late July and the TVG dot com
haskell he had a weird race. He got out near
the lead and then he started to fade. He was
just a tired horse, and then after the wire he
kind of went by everyone again on the gallop out,
so now fast forward. After that, he goes to the
(28:26):
Fandul Pacific Classic at Delmar. He wins at a mile
and a quarter and a gutty victory. He holds on
to win by a head, but the time wasn't impressive
and two oh three does he have another move forward? Yeah?
I think that's why Bob Baffort instead of racing him
between the FanDuel Pacific Classic back in August and now
here in November for the long Jing Braiders' Cup Classic.
(28:48):
I think he waited because Bob's great off the layoff.
I think he, you know, because this is a younger horse,
a three year old. He wants to give him a
chance to develop instead of racing, and so I think
he'll be better as a fresh horse. But I just
don't think he's up there. The three year olds have
been better than I thought, but I just don't think
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they're up to a great older horse like the Japanese
champion Ushba Tesoro, who's three for three this year. He
won the Dubai World Cup, which is one of the
premier thoroughbred races anywhere in the world, and he has
looked awesome in the mornings. He's had some problems at
the starting game. I'm not too concerned about it, because
even if he breaks slow, it's a mile and a quarter.
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He's going to be fine. I just don't find the
three year olds stepping up to the older horses right now,
And to me, one of the best three year olds
was Arcangelo. He ended up scratching out of the race
with a foot problem. I've just never been a huge
believer in Arabian Night. I bought the hype early on
and then his comeback. I think he's just kind of
the same horse. I don't think he's improved. He'll be
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out there on the lead the thing you want to
watch early. There's another three year old in the race.
His name is Saudi Crown. He won the Pennsylvania Derby
last time out. He is the only horse I think
that can realistically challenge Arabian Knight. Brad Cox is his trainer,
and brad Cox was talking to us earlier in the
week and said, I'm not going to tell you my strategy,
but I do believe there is a legit rivalry between
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brad Cox and Bob Baffort. The controversy with Bob Baffort
where he was disqualified from his winning the Kentucky Derby.
It was Brad Cox who trained the second place finisher
who got moved up via DQ. But it's still stuck
in the courts and it's all being delayed. So I
think there's a legit rivalry there. And I don't think
Brad Cox is going to have Saudi Crown back down
(30:38):
from Arabian Knight if those two go after each other.
I love Ushba Tasoro. White to Barrio is going to
get a lot of attention. White to Barrio is kind
of a crazy story in that is trainer Rick Dutrow
is coming off get this a ten year suspension. Rick Dutrow,
He's won the Kentucky Derby with Big Brown, he won
(31:02):
the Breeders Cup Classic with Saint Liam, and then he
ran a foul of regulators in New York and there
was one regulator who just absolutely hated him and was
able to impose a ten year pedal. I've never seen
anything like that in our sport. I mean, I've seen
people who could get banned for life, but I've never
seen someone at that level with what the transgressions were
(31:22):
got to be banned for ten years. So this is
his first year back, and he gets this horse, White
to Barrio, from a trainer Safi Joseph Junior in South Florida.
The owners transferred him to Rick Dutro. This horse ends
up winning one of the bigger races for older horses
at Saratoga and since he's been at San Anita, he's
trained better than anybody. I mean, it's unbelievable. His last
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quarter mile in his last work was twenty two and four.
White to Barrio is going to be the wise guy
horse is also going to be just a wild story
because of Rick Dutro coming off a ten year suspension
in his first year back might win the biggest race
in our sport.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
He's on Twitter at Todd TVG. That is, at Todd
TVG Todd Shrump. Todd is always buddy, appreciate our visits.
Thanks so much for the stories. We'll find you tomorrow.
We'll find you tomorrow and uh we'll have some more fun.
You got it, man, Thanks so much.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I hope we get a Jets Viking super Bowl one day.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Thank you. Look at that.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (32:28):
App So twenty to sixteen, the Steelers win it, joining
us now in the hotline Nobody Better NFL on Fox
Insider Extraordinaire, host of The Unbreakable podcast, It is Jay Glazer.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Jay, what's happening, buddy?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Oh we're going man, I'll tell you, man, we were
just talking about Will Levis. I know those last couple
of passes weren't great, but what I've seen from the
first two weeks he's the real thing.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Jay. Well, look it is. We're going to get that.
They were just bringing it. So yeah, if you're like
Joey the way you can get a little shell shocked
from something like that, you can go okay from here.
It's gonna be kind of Rosie going on up.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I was gonna say, you're not finding a much better
tandem coming at you than Watton Heismith.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Oh man, they were, and they were just bringing it.
You know, He's just you know, obviously running for his
life all night here. But hey, welcome to the NFL.
Gotta learn sometimes.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Now for the Steelers, I feel like this is every
week the Steelers don't look good. They escape everybody is mad,
but they win. Like like, that's the start. That's a
Steeler story line every week.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Jay, that's my comblin team, right And he's never had
a losing season, so it's just like but also that's
how good he is. It's all those you know, adjustments
you make in game after halftime, and man, nobody doesn't
like them.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, there was just an interesting exchange earlier this week
obviously Matt Canada down on the sideline instead of up
in the booth, and earlier this week at a presser,
a phone drop and he's like, I didn't touch it.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I didn't touch it. You're gonna blame.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Me, Like, I don't know if he was shell shocked
or if he was just trying to be funny there.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Jay.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I think there's a weird space he's in right now.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Yeah. I mean, look, you know, obviously you know people
are you know, doesn't matter who you are players coach
where you get out a nune to it too at
all and you hear all the you know, the hate
that's going on. I was starting to coach the other
day and I said to him, he said, you know,
we don't listen to the to the noise, and we
keep it in the house and say, man, those days
are over. You may say, you know, we keep it
(34:31):
in the house and we don't listen to the noise,
but that's not the truth.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Man.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Everybody hear stuff. Your family hears it. You hear it
on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram whatever. It is like
those days of you just thinking that we're in this cocoon,
those days are over and you got to realize that.
And it was it was a head to head coach
is like, Hey, you're right. I didn't think about that
because because I'm not on social media, I didn't realize
I think that. You know, I'm I'm able to keep
(34:56):
myself in this tunnel. Are You're right? Just because I can?
Does me and everybody else does? I said, dude, even
if your players do, their family doesn't. And there you
know what I mean, everyone's kind of kind of close.
Coaches like this were under fire. Jay.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
When you look at this week, obviously we saw coaches
under fire. We saw the big change with the Raiders.
It was just a few weeks ago Mark Davis said, hey, guys,
trust me on Josh McDaniels. A couple weeks later, Josh
McDaniels is gone, can you make sense of the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Yeah, there's a total Traders move. Absolutely, Well that's it.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
That sounds beautiful, that's true. Just say Raiders, Raiders, Raiders
got a Raider.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Like, we're shocked.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Well, I was shocked that he dismissed him. Now I
figured the end of the year, in season, So it's
about don't people learn at some point somebody somewhere. But
I mean, but what what happened with that all meeting
last week? The all hands meeting?
Speaker 5 (35:54):
They need it, Yeah, I mean because people are you know,
and it was and it was yeah this this was listen.
And then I told you guys like that, the way
stuff has been done in the patrious way in the past,
it doesn't work as much anymore because damn thing, everything
doesn't just get kept in the house anymore. It's not
(36:16):
just his tunnel. And you can't know rule that way
the way they did it in years past. So you know,
players have voices now and much bigger voices, and when
dads aren't getting neared the right way, they're going to
chime up about it. Absolutely. And you know what, I
think the Raiders now and they need a culture guy, right,
(36:36):
They need a culture guy. And you know they they
had there. You know, Liz Pasati was a special teams coach,
get he was a culture guy. He wasn't like, oh,
I come for the offense. I'm coming up to the defense.
They need a guy who's gonna come in and help
with the culture there because they really haven't had, you know,
obviously a stable culture and so long. They need a
stability guy somehow, some way, And it wasn't I was
(36:57):
John Gruden. It's not a culture guys. Stability guy's a man.
He's a he's a folklore guy. You know, he's a character.
And Josh McDaniel's coming from the patrious way. That's not
it either. You need a guy who's really going to
stabilize the place to come in and help with culture
first and foremost, and that has not been built there
(37:18):
in the Raiders. And man, I have been coming this
leap for thirty years now. I can't I can't remember
what it was.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
You know, it's kind of funny and the crazy year
it is. You're saying the Raiders need their own Dan Campbell.
We have to look to the Detroit Lions. That's who
they need. We're gonna look at that lines for great leadership.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
They absolutely a million percent and look that you know,
greater is different hours.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
It's such a and I.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Feel bad from their fan base deserves, you know, a winner.
They travel so great, their fan base is so amazing,
and it's like, you know, you see it every year
and you see it happen. They make him his moves
and you're like, ah no, and and even if they
you know, I understand why they brought in the Patriots
way and we get it right, but you just can't
(38:03):
take somebody else's way and bringing the Raiders right because
there's so many outside factors. Being a Raider it's just different.
It's just totally different. So yeah, I think they need
like a you know, kind of a guy in that
let's say, you know, rich Tsachi kind of ame Whords
not a big fan, fair guy.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
He's going to come in and man coach up players
like Dan Campbell exactly one of those kind of guys.
We're going to just be able to build your culture
and give it stability. Raiders haven't had stability in so long.
They need stability.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah, And just always remembering off that Belichick tree, just
because you coached him and you hung around with him.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
You're not Bill Belichick. We've proven that doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
No, But you know what, here's here's the problem. And
that's why Bill Belichick's assistance a lot of a lot
of really don't work out because they try and be
mini Bills And I'll see through you in two seconds.
He's the most street smart dudes of the planet that
you coach him. And if you're trying to be somebody
you're not, They're going to figure you out in two seconds.
And if they feel like, man, he's fake, he's not.
(39:06):
He's not a he's not authentic. He's not going to
resonate with him. They're gonna put and now they're going
to push back harder than they ever have because they
have a voice. They have a big players have much
bigger voice out and they could be heard a lot more. So. Yeah,
it's that's why Belichick guys I think really don't work out.
They can't do the same type of thing because they
try and be somebody. They're enough.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Jay looking back at the deadline, Look, the Raiders don't
make a move, but they got a new head coach,
new GM. What was the move that was made that
that you that resonated with you the most, or a
move that wasn't made that resonated with you the most.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
I actually I actually loved the Montest what to There's
like they got to kind of build for future. I
really like Montest foot. It works his tail off. You
always know when you're getting you get this consistency, and
he's just he's like, you know, you kind of build
culture around that. I really like that move. I know
it's not it kind of counterproductive because he's like, hey, Chicot,
(40:02):
you want to kind of keep that draft stock down right.
Kicks sound but it is. But you have the ability
to bring in guys like this where you already know,
because it's such a crap shooting the draft, at least
you know what you're getting with him. I've really really
liked that deal. I thought it was great. And also look, obviously,
you know for all three of these d linemen in
(40:24):
Chase Young for San Francisco, they get a little more
flash there, and you know they could just run them
for the season if they want to. But also like
Seattle suddenly first placed, getting a guy like Leonard Williams
who is a dog on that defense, and they don't
have a lot of flash in that defense degenerate and
pass rush with Jamal you know, Adam and things like that.
Getting creative having a guy like that, I remember, you know,
(40:45):
lamming hat a guy like that in in ages.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Yeah, the curiosity for me being the Chicago lunatic that
I am Jay and bringing sweat in the same day
that you have to fire another coach with HR involved
and can't talk about it, just like when your defensive
coordinator went missing. So the first thing with guy that
you want to negotiate a contract with is, oh, yeah,
the running back coach left, But we don't have any
problems here.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
He's going to be raising his hand asking questions immediately.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
That's the tick, like, hey, luckily I got to talk
about Sacks. I don't have to talk about HR. We're good.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
No, that's true, And he is getting out of Washington
and their dysfunctioned. So I guess I know you trade
one for.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
The other quation too, because it's like, all right, you're
you have a head coach in the GM who they
order to come in and move on to the head
coach in the gym. SU. There's not gonna want to
move on some talent because I want to keep them
there because they want to save their jobs, right sure,
but at the same time, you know the owner is
going to be like, hey, let's you know, we're gonna
have a full reload here. So it was it was
(41:45):
a really interesting That was an interesting dichotomy.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Uh check out Jay on Twitter at Jay Glazer, that
is at Jay Glazer. Hey your Unbreakable podcast. This week
you had maybe your most important guest ever, the guy
that's got you paying free for the first my life right.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Oh my god, yes, doctor. You know everybody since I've
got my stemseul streaming down and pat them up, people
have asked, people have asked. I'm like, look, I'm not
the doc, and I tell people about it and I
tell well, my results are and other people's results are,
but like, you got to have this guy. He's and
I don't, you know know the sign. So I was like,
I'm just gonna have I called them. I said, hey,
can I have him on so he can ask all
(42:23):
the answer all the questions basically everyone's asked to me.
And it was fantastic and it really I told someone
about it again today. I am not just pain nerve
paying free in my back, which I ruptured my first
my first disc in two thousand and one at Heads
Up Racing's accountmy of New York. Man, I have never
(42:44):
felt pain like that my entire life. And it's never
gone away like I've never been paying free since two
thousand and one till now. And people out there who
understand back pain, man, it affects your mental health, It
affects everything. Is no joke. And I have had seven
ruptures of all the stupid stuff I've done since and
and miss Parcel Arts and trained all these guys and
(43:05):
got my moron. And I'm not saying stem Cell is
going to cure me for being a moron, but and
you know, I was, I was a week away from
getting my back fused. When I was gonna get I
was getting three fusion into my back L four, L five,
L one, L two and T seven L one. It
was gonna change my life forever and for the for
(43:27):
the worst, you know. And I went down there Panama
threw up a hall. Mary and I have been nerve
pain free since I was in Unbreakable today. And you know,
one of our coaches and there a Jason's like that.
It's just it's great to see you be able to
turn your hips rotate what I have been able to
do in years, like I've had an altar. The way
(43:48):
I move and getting out of bed is terrible every morning,
and now I popped right out of bed like this.
When I went down and got stem Cell. My fiance Rosie,
I got a bet. She's like, oh my god, I said,
what look at you? You're standing straight up. You're five
to seven again. Oh? There we go over.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Jan the club together again Jay Jay Laser five five
five seven after stem cellver j as always, Buddy, guys, it's.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Steeled, my shoulders, my handkle everything. Tune in to Unbreakable
this week. Listen doctor James Buckley and VM Origins. If
you're if you're interested, it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
You're the best there it is.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Get the link on Twitter as well at Jay Glazer
more the Unbreakable Podcast.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Jay be good, buddy, we'll talk to you next week.
Great stuff, Jay, I love you man.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
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next year.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
A lot of the odds are outde me one thing.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Do you not believe how many tweets and texts I
got saying, wow, Jason really ducked crowning de Gromme insures
are as World Series champions.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
All right, let me be honest with it. Let me
be because I I really I didn't know how I
was going to feel with the Rangers winning the World Series.
Now the word the disaster scenario was averted. Nobody from
the NL East won the World Series. Okay, so I
will accept whatever the second result is, cause that's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And the Yankees didn't make the plants. I have to
worry about that. That's good. So yeah, I didn't know
how I was going to feel.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And the Rangers won last night, and I said to myself, yeah,
it's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
No, you were happy, Harmon was right, uh series and
the MVP.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I was happy for you for that, But I know
I didn't. I didn't really care that they won because
the Grumme and shirts are really didn't do anything and
they still get rain. Yeah, okay, still go down in history. Yes, series.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Wait, when you get a ring and the final game
you're wearing the playoff hoodie sweatshirt because you're not actually
on the active roster, you win, you win, Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So I was actually fine with it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I was goin to know they weren't instrumental Psyche's of
the relief pitchers, or maybe helping Evaldi right, because you
want to talk about a guy walking a tight Ropevaldi
was as we were talking Carrie Rhodes in for you
last night, and when you can strand nine guys in
scoring position.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
When you decide to bunt with your number three hitter,
you get what you got. They got what they deserve.
When you're bunting with your number You know me, I
hate the bunt anyway, but you but you're bunting with
your numbers. You deserve to not score runs. You deserve it.
Well deserve it, all of them.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
We talked about it before the series began, and one
of the things I feared was potentially the Hey, they'll
figure out how to manufacture runs. Yeah, but that became
their only strategy. Yeah, get them on, get them over,
and then they're standing waiting at you from second and
third base.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I really I was.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I was fine because of that because Scherzer and de
Gram didn't do anything. And look, the Rangers don't care
because they won the World Series. No one should they care.
They won the World Series. The Rangers were terrific. Right,
they win the World Series, they get enough starting pitching.
You know, Look, Nathan Valdi suddenly is somehow suddenly the
big postseason ace. Now we're talking about him and suner kershaw. Hey, fine, right,
(03:20):
I get it, but they didn't do anything. So I'm
okay with it. I'm okay with knowing that Max Schurzer
is just deteriorating before our eyes and we don't have him.
We have the Rangers' best prospect instead, and Jacob de
Gram may not pitch again until the end of next
year if he does, so I'm okay with it. I'm
okay with it. The big lesson to takeaway, to be
quite honest with you, and it's.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
The other teams can win, I can suck, and I
can denigrate their record.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
No no, no, no, no, no no. This is good.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I gotta tell you. I don't care about that. But uh,
never underestimate what the mental edge a team gets by
going for it, because you look at the Rangers, who
got absolutely nothing from the guys they went out and
spent the most money on and put the most capital
out there on. Right, they spend all the money on
to grom they get basically nothing, from him, and they're
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not gonna get anything from next year. They go out
and get Max Scherzer, who was okay during the regular season, right, fine,
regular season, he was fine.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Playoffs he was awful. He was awful.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
He looked like a closer who you're asking him to
go more than one inning and he couldn't really do.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It, no physically, no. Watch the deterioration right quick.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, and you know that's gonna be it next year
for Max Scherzer. Every year from the Mets signed him,
I knew the first year was gonna be the best.
Then the next year wouldn't be as good as the first,
and the third year wouldn't be as good as a second. Right,
And that's where it's going for Max Scherzer. But sometimes
when you just send that message, whether it's in the
offseat where you have a good team, we're loaded that riot,
Seeger Simmey and we everything. Hey, let's go get that
(04:42):
ace pitcher. All right, that's great, Hey we lost him.
Guess what, we're gonna go get another race pitcher the deadline.
We believe in this team and we're gonna go do it.
And even though you didn't get anything from the guys,
you still won. This Rangers team should have never won
the World Series. They're one of the least talented teams.
They're barely more talented than Diamondbacks are. Right, was an
NBA jam World Series. The Rangers two stars were better
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than the Diamondbacks two stars, and that's why they won.
They should have never won. They're not that talented, but
they go on and win. Never underestimate just the mentality
of a team and the belief you have when the
entire organization is on the same page of we're going
for it, here's the ace pitchure we need. But he's hurt,
doesn't matter. We're going to get another guy, but he stinks,
doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
That's kind of what the Rangers did, and you could
tell that the entire season. They never lost their belief,
even when things got tougher down the stretch. They wind
up squeaking into the playoffs as a wild card. They
don't win the division, and they go on and they
don't lose a game on the road.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You know that's a team that was locked in, focused
the entire organization moving forward. There was no well, we
kind of sold the deadline, but we didn't really and
can we go forward?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Can we still win? Are we still good enough? Are
we not? There was none of that, and that can't
be undersold enough that when you go for it, you
send a mat and you continue to go for it
even it doesn't work out. You send a message of
the team, we think we're good enough, and there's never
any fracture. There's never any We go through the motions,
never waiting for the other shoot to drop going we're
going to start losing at some point. The Rangers had
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that belief and that's what the Graminchuerser brought them well.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And the other part that you get into it is
having the veteran manager. As much as we love to
talk about analytics, unless we don't and over analyze those
folks that are up in the booths and their relationship
to the managers down in the dugout. And certainly, look
we're here in Los Angeles, we do it all the
(06:31):
time as related to how much is Dave Roberts, how
much is the front office, and what kind of game
of telephone are we playing there with roster management, pitching management,
et cetera. Where's Bochi's in that dugout? Getting the job done. Right,
he comes back wins his fourth World Series. We talked
with John Paul Morosi last night. I mean, you now
(06:52):
make the argument that he's your best manager of this
modern era.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
He got a couple of guys with more World Series.
He's tied with Tory and one ahead of Larusa. And
then we can start to quibble about the pieces that
roll through. But veteran leadership, Dusty Baker there in Houston,
calm the storm. So it's everything could be swirling underneath,
but we're all cool, like a bunch of little Fonsie.
(07:19):
Shout out Henry Winkler. It was his birthday the other
day and he's got a book out and all that fun.
But just that idea of calming and having this ability.
This was great. This one from MLB Network earlier this morning.
Bruce Bochi was able to pencil in Marcus simeon leadoff
spot in all one hundred and seventy nine games they played,
no injury, no sick days, no days off. Your leadoff
(07:44):
man was there, and he came up huge at the
back end of this World series. Unlike Mookie Betts, who
was penciling the leadoff spot every day and then came
up very small.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, you know, he looked like he was having fun
at the World Series.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, oh yeah, definitely, yeah, a hell of a time
until Corey Seeger looked at him like, yeah, what do
you got, Frostburg?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
How does the.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Field know that that the Grom and sures A combined
have more World Series titles than Mets?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It feels pretty good, right, we have two? Mets have
two sixty nine eighty six. Yeah, they have two. They
have two. That's have three. That's not more.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I just liked that you didn't say nineteen sixty nine
the joke, right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Sure, greater than Sureser doesn't count with the with the
with the Nationals because it was before he became a Met.
It's got to be Mets or after. You don't make
that rules. It's got to be mets Are after he
got the ring, doesn't it. It's got to be Now
if you said, how the ring, how would you feel
if de Gram, sures Are, and Travis Jankowski all have
more rings than the Mets?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Do that Will Smith combined has more rings than the Mets.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, that's the thing. We gotta we gotta just sign
Will Smith because if you have him. You win the
World Series last three years on the World serious winner.
It's got to get Will Smith. I mean, I mean
there's a lot of Will Smiths out there. Got to
make sure you get the right one right for.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
You know, when you're looking it up in the phone book,
you really do need to little do a little more research.
But absolutely, no, that was fun last night. We were
sorry you weren't here to partake it. A great end
and now we're watching a fantastic Thursday night football game. Yeah,
Steelers and Titans and Will Levis, who he talked about
a bit on Monday show Man. He's got the mentality
(09:12):
of all those veteran quarterbacks that I love so much
that when they come in they have no conscience. I've
got the arm strength, I've got the ability. I'm getting
the ball there.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
No, he's been good. He's been good.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
But let's not lose lose side of this. I went positive.
Let's that Kenny Pickett stinks. Okay, let let's be let's
be honest, all right, because he's.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Three inches of dirt from having thrown a touchdown right
before halftime.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
He was also just three inches of dirt for a
pick six. You know, what it was. It fell harmlessly
into the ground.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Look, look, look, let's for everybody who really loved jumping
up and down when I said in the offseason, Kenny
Pickett is just a tiny bit better than Zack Wilson.
And now you don't even know if Kenny Pickett's better
than Zack Wilson. And all the hate that I got,
oh you can keep people the network were like, are
you kidding me? Then Kenny Pickett's bad. Oh you know,
(10:01):
Kenny Pickett. Look at the last five games. You stop
throwing interceptions, right, that means he's good. No, not throwing
interceptions doesn't mean you're progressing as a quarterback. It just
means you're not throwing interceptions. Kenny Pickett is a limited quarterback.
Kenny Pickett has pretty good weapons around. He's got two
pretty good running backs, he's got two pretty good wide receivers,
and the Steelers find a way to not put points
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on the board. And there are different combinations of players
who are available not available, but the one common denominator
has been Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett is limited. He is
not even an elite game manager. He is a game manager.
And when you don't have elite talent around you, this
is what you wind up seeing. And this is Kenny Pickett, who,
as you're seeing, makes really bad throws, throws behind his
(10:46):
receivers a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's just not very good.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And all the wanting and hoping and hey, I'm gonna
hope that Kenny Pickett is better. And when you say
Kenny Pickett is bad, I'm gonna get really mad at you.
Kenny Pickett is just a tech. If you said, right now,
if I could have Kenny Pickett or Zach Wilson Man,
that's close.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's close. I mean, I still like PI Kenny.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Pickett WI, but that's really close.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I would get rid of both of their respective coordinators
and QB coaches. I got to figure out who that
guy is.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh wait, do I do? I get Matt Canada too. No,
but that's apparently because apparently it's his fault. It's not
Kenny Pickett's fault, it's Matt Canada's. Look, I'm not gonna
blame Canada for all of it. He's on the sidelines tonight.
They brought that was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
But clearly he stinks in terms of Blake all play
selection because individually and Najie Harris, I think has been
a bit overrated, although he's has having a nice night tonight,
right got the early touchdown run, He's got nine for
fifty seven and a score, a couple of catches as well.
But well, yeah, they figured out the Russian game.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
They figured out and are a pretty good combination and Warren.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Warren's the better, more explosive back, certainly a better receiver
out of the backfield, but you look at the receiving corps,
You're not able to really use George Pickens in this game.
He's got one reception for two yards. You've got Deontay
Johnson everything short and then hope and pray for yak.
(12:15):
So this is one of those where you would load
up on guys like Brandon Marshall and Kwon Bolden in
the like who like to block down field. That's what
you need if you're gonna run an offense like this.
It looks guys that can seal on the outside.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It looks like watching Ben Roethlisberger at the end when
Roethlisberger could throw the ball seven yards and you're, hey,
make something out of that. What do you mean, make something?
I can't throw the ball more than this, make something
out of it. Makes he makes that. That's what it's
like watching Kenny Pitt. Two gloves Kenny, you know, I
mean from two glove Teddy. He was not doing anymore.
Two gloves Kenny. No, that's real, That's what it is.
Kenny Pickett is just a guy. He's not even an
elite game manager. He's not even brock Perty. He is
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just a game manager.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
But you know he is undefeated, you know, against the
spread in prime time.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah there, well, hey, look there's positives. I'm not saying
there's not positives. And that may be the one Kenny Pitt.
That's the first line of Wikipedia page entry Kenny Pickett
undefeated against the spread in primes.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
If you bet him consistently, you were a winner. Be
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Speaker 1 (13:15):
This is all on George Pickens because Kenny Pickett throws
a really nice past him in the corner of the
end zone. You heard you, Yeah, maybe stepping up a
little bit up in the when.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
The atmosphere and it was grabbed and he said he
hunked out on it.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It still might be Kenny Pickett's faul. I don't know
how it might be Kenny Pickett's fault. But Pickett throws
a touchdown, and George Pickens has to know where he
is on the field. He's got to know I'm in
the end zone. I got a toe tap. I got
to make sure I get my foot down. He has
all kinds of room to get his second foot down,
and instead just thought I can catch this, doesn't matter
what no field awareness, no awareness where he's at all.
(13:52):
It was a third down play and he comes down.
You're gonna watch this and go, how does he not
come down and bounce because he doesn't take the care
to do what the best wide receiver than the NFL
need to do, and that's I'm in the.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
End zone, bring my foot down.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Doesn't do it, steps out of bounds with his second
foot and it's inexcusable. When you see it, you'll see
how inexcusable it is. And I don't know is it
gonna be on the bench for a while. If I'm
Mike Tomlin, I got to think about it. Because he
cost the Steelers four points. Since it was a third
down play, it turned a fourth down they had to
kick a field goal in the thirteen to thirteen game
late in the third quarter. Those four points could wind
(14:25):
up being the difference. It's all on George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah, I mean it was just a lazy end of route.
I mean, having no idea and field presence because there's
a lot of green around him, right, pretty easy catch
if he concentrates. It's not like you're having a safety
barreling down on you getting ready to take you out.
That was legitimately a all right, just know where you're
at on the field. Spot your feet, I mean, which
(14:49):
these guys do a million times in the practice. Right,
You've seen workouts. It's like, all right, here's my toe tap.
All right, here's my toe tap. Get that JUG's gone
up to one hundred miles an hour. Watch me still
concentrate and get my feet down. And here, I mean
just non shalant.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I can't have it. I mean, look, go back to
the Mike singletary rant.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Kenny, Kenny Picketts isn't gonna throw a lot of good passes.
You gotta make sure what he throws a good one
and you get a touchdown for him.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I know you and Kenny want to double down.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
He's one of the way he was, so you gotta
make sure that they're.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Not that rare.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's the blood.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
His receivers aren't quite to where the Ravens have been
at times this year, but they've led him down on
a number of occasions.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Dude, this is this is where you you have to
come through. You have to come through on a play
like that because you don't know what Kenny Pickett's next
throw is going to be into the stands. You have
no idea the larger issue.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Take it.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Take it away from your Kenny Pickett slander is just
the margin for error in these games. You don't have it.
Four points is a lot when he over under is
thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
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Speaker 6 (16:27):
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Speaker 3 (16:27):
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Speaker 2 (16:27):
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Speaker 5 (16:40):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
This is the band. Yeah, so we're asking what movie
was it featured in? Definitely not Silence of the Lambs. No,
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Speaker 1 (16:49):
Not Big Lebowski. Really no, not big Lebowski joining us
on the hotline. Maybe our next guest knows longtime FanDuel
TV anchor, we're gonna talk about the biggest moment, one
of the big moments in his career coming up as well.
It is Todd Shrump, who fortunately or unfortunately is also
a lifelong Minnesota Vikings fand.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
We're very sorry about everything the last few days, I
have to say.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
But here's the thing. It was after the two thousand
and nine NFC Championship game where they lost to the Saints,
which turned out to beat bounty Gate. And then of
course they changed the overtime rules after that game, too
late for the Vikings and all that. But I went
for a walk after losing that heartbreak of the game
to go to the super Bowl, and I didn't stop
walking for two and a half hours. And I sat
(17:37):
there and I'm like, this team doesn't even know I exist?
What is wrong with me? But that's what happens when
you fall in love with teams. And it's funny. My
cousin and I talk about this all the time because
he's for Minnesota as well, obviously, and he said, why
couldn't our parents have given us some other team.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
To root for?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
This has just led to so much heartbreak. So yeah,
the last couple of days, I mean, we did get
a hocket scientists to replace Kirk Cousins, so maybe there's
something there. But I yeah, being a Vikings fan, just
when you think you've seen it all, they event new
ways to disappoint you.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'm a Jets fan, Mike's a Bears fan. We're with you, Yeah,
I mean it's there, We're all. Yeah, it's the same,
the same deep end of the pool. All three of
us here, Bud.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
I appreciate it. The misery truly does love company in
this case.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
So I'm glad to.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Hang with you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
All right, let me now, let me ask a question.
Let let's test and see how deep your love of
the Vikings goes.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Are you ready?
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Okay? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Iep is your love? He's going on Beg's.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I could guarantee you picked the winners of all three
Big Breeders Cup races this weekend.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Or super Bowl. I want the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Wow, I can't even get the second half out, Dude.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I wasn't even gonna I was gonna say, Josh Dobbs
lead you to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I was gonna say, playoffs. Oh, Josh Dobbs, get you
to the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Well, I mean here, there's the whole thing. Give me
the playoffs is fine. I mean, Kirk Cousins does that.
So no, I just I've gone to the point where
I believe this, But yet I still hang around and
they give me hope. I just don't think it's happening
in my lifetime, and.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
That scares me.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
I don't. It's like the Cubs fans who never thought
it would happen. Their lifetime, and you hear about the
one hundred year old Cubs fan who finally saw the
World Series. I'm going to hang on as long as
I can, but it may take to be one hundred
to see a Viking Super Bowl win.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
All right now, let me let me take this now.
One of the big highlights you care you told we
talked about it last year with you do one of
the biggest things for TVG when you got piled driven
by Jerry the King Lawler, very famous moment. Would you
be willing to be piled dry? Pile driven?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Driven?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Drive, pile driven again for a Viking Super Bowl? Another
pile driver for a Viking Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
My neck is seizing up as we speak. I told
everyone I said that was a one off.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
I walked away going.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Wrestlers are absolutely athletes and the King for real and
never be piled driven. Gosh, you know what, No, it's
probably not worth that. It's probably not worth that. That's
probably where I draw the line.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Wow, another pile another pile driver, which is basically banned.
Right there you go. You got one of those before
they outlawed. What did it?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
What did it feel like like?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What did it feel like? Because when I was little.
I remember all my friends would do that. We do
the wrestling moves, and the figure four leg lock was
so unbelievably painful. I'm like, oh my god, oh my god,
oh my god, what did the pile driver feel like
when it happened to you?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
So do you want to know how it's how it's
supposed to go down? Because I only tell this story
off Eric. I tell her that at dinner parties when
people want to ask.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Me, oh, no, no, I want to hear. I want
to hear, didn't you. I want to hear the party store, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
We're we're giving it. We're giving away the magic. So
the king basically tells me how the match is going
to go, and he goes, I'm going you're you're partner,
and we had partners for this. He had a partner
and had a partner, and he goes, your partner's going
to abandon you. Now it's just you be in the ring.
I'm like, okay. He goes, I'm going to kick you
in the stomach, Like all right, Then you're going to
(21:05):
take your head, You're going to tuck it up in
between my legs, and then I'm going to get you vertical.
We're going to drop to the ring and my legs
are going to cushion your head. And I looked at him,
I'm like, okay.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah, in theory, right, they just come together and you
get a cushion.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, all right, of course, you know,
I'm a supreme athlete. I do this all the time,
so if the king messes up, I'm good. So before
the match, we were meeting an area where no one
can see this, and he he said, okay, let's let
me see if I can get you a vertical. So
I touched my legs up. He gets me like six
inches off the ground and he puts me down. He goes,
(21:46):
how much do you weigh? I wait, two forty five.
He's like okay. So then now he tries again. He
gets me probably two and a half feet off the ground,
but not vertical, and he goes, all right, I think
we can do it. Do it. So the match happens,
(22:06):
I get abandoned, I'm in the ring. He kicks me
in the stomach, and just like he said, and that's
why I said, the athletes, he gets me completely vertical.
We dropped to the ring, but I feel the right
side at the top of my head hit the ring
and I got one of those next singers. So if
you watch the replay, I'm so concerned that I've got
this next singer. I pop up and if you look
(22:28):
at him, he goes get down. I lay back down.
They take me on a flatboard. They take me to
the far end of the parking lot of Sam Houston
Racecourse because I went down to Texas to do this
and they let me out. But to this day, I
always think about that next thing, and I'm like, that
could have gone terribly wrong. But he's a complete pro.
(22:49):
I was a complete amateur, and that's why I said
it was a one off, and I'm so glad I
did it. And it's amazing how many people to this day,
because you're going back that was about nineteen years ago,
and people will come up and ask for out. Sure,
King Lawler, and remember that moment.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's his dark side, that's your dark side of the
moon man. That's gonna be it. That's it.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Oh yeah, no, no, that is absolutely that is what
I'm going to leave this earth with. One of my
biggest accomplishments. You know, Michaelangelo has his Sistine chapel. I've
got being piled driven by the.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
King well, and now we have twenty two races over
the next two days, all the horses coming from I've
been watching all the workouts online because I'm a degenerate
in the morning when I can't sleep, Todd, So when
we look at this, the build up, the anticipation, how
do you pace yourself and can you keep your neck
you know and head on a swivel after being piled
(23:42):
driven all those years ago.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
I was just saying to your amazing producer Justin and
he probably told you guys this to just give you
an idea of the panetic pace. I called in last
night when you guys weren't on air.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I was here. I'm always here. I mean, come on,
living in the studio. More tips you can get, the better,
just the answers.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
The phone and he goes hello, and I'm like, it's
Todd Trumck from Fanbuel TV. He's like, yeah, it twenty
five and so he's like, no, I think it's I
think it's tomorrow. At first he thought I was calling
in with some type of breaking news in the world.
(24:23):
That's just one example of how it gets. It gets
a predetic pace and with those morning shows, and I'm
glad you watch them because we've done ten days from
seven am to ten am Pacific time, just showing the
workouts live. There's over two hundred horses that come from
across the world and across the country for these two
days of racing, so there's a lot to keep track of.
It's great you're running on adrenaline, but it is one
(24:45):
of those things and you guys know it as well.
When you lead up to, say the playoffs in any sport,
or maybe up to the super Bowl, you do all
these shows and by the time you get to the
actual event, there's not much gas in the tank. But
I love it so much I wouldn't want to be
anywhere else. And you know, everyone knows the Kentucky Derby,
but for those who follow the sport, they know the
two biggest days are the Breeders' Cup. They're the best
(25:06):
betting days and they have the best horses for memory.
So those horses that you saw competing in the Kentucky Derby,
they're three year olds. They only get one chance. You
won't see them next year in the Kentucky Derby. That's
just one division. So This is every division that we
have in thoroughbred racing, every type of discipline, from sprinting
on the turf to going long on the grass, to
(25:28):
sprinting on the dirt, to going long on the dirt,
to younger horses to older horses. They're all here. And
then you add in the international part of it, where
Japan has some of their amazing champions over here this year,
and then always coming over is Aidan O'Brien and his
contingent from Ireland, and then the Dolphin, who's a global powerhouse.
(25:50):
They have horses coming in from all over the world.
It is phenomenal. And if you're just a casualist sports fan,
and I think in southern California we take for granted's
so many of our sporting venues. It kind of takes
someone from out of town to take us to a
game to realize, wow, this is in our backyard. You know,
Chavez Ravine is treasured and should be and is a
(26:11):
phenomenal experience to go to a Dodger game. Santa Anita
is as iconic of a sporting venue you'll find. Yes,
it's horse racing, but when you sit in that grand
stand and you look out at the San Gabriel Mountains,
and you think those mountains have been there for centuries,
and that has been the view out of that grand
stand for over one hundred years, and it changes every day.
There's nothing like it anywhere in the world. It's fun
(26:33):
to watch the international competitors come over here who haven't
been to Santa Anita before and they're just awestruck at
what a beautiful facility it is. We're fortunate to have
that in southern California and that's why Santa Anita is
going to host the Breeders' Cup for a record eleventh
time now.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Now, todd one thing though, as you talk about the
average horse racing fan knows, hey, we're looking at Arabian
Night being the big horse. Now didn't get a favorite
bullpole position on the draw. So a two part question
for you here. One still overwhelming favorite and two isn't
every year there's a horse named Arabian Knight. I think
(27:10):
there is, like Night is big, Arabian Nights big, and
the breeders got breaters this big year. I think I
feel like every year no Arabian Night, Arabian Night, I
think I think you're fooling me.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
And we're bringing back the same horses.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Statistically, I can't back that up for you, but I
absolutely think you're right. I think you're absolutely right. I
hadn't taken time to think about that, but I do
believe there has been a thematic trend in the last
few years and big races with Arabian A Knight, and
somewhere in the names. As far as this particular horse,
(27:43):
Arabian Night, he's really coming. At the beginning of the year,
Bob Bafford was trying to hint that this horse was
as good as American Pharaoh, and if you watched his
races as a two year old, you kind of bought
into it. His first race is a three year old
was sensational, and everyone thought, if this work stays healthy
and things work out, maybe he is just going to
(28:05):
roll through the spring Classics for three year olds. Instead,
he got an injury, he went to the sidelines. He
re emerged in late July and the TVG dot com
haskell he had a weird race. He got out near
the lead and then he started to fade. He was
just a tired horse, and then after the wire he
kind of went by everyone again on the gallop out,
so now fast forward. After that, he goes to the
(28:26):
Fandul Pacific Classic at Delmar. He wins at a mile
and a quarter and a gutty victory. He holds on
to win by a head, but the time wasn't impressive
and two oh three does he have another move forward? Yeah?
I think that's why Bob Baffort instead of racing him
between the FanDuel Pacific Classic back in August and now
here in November for the long Jing Braiders' Cup Classic.
(28:48):
I think he waited because Bob's great off the layoff.
I think he, you know, because this is a younger horse,
a three year old. He wants to give him a
chance to develop instead of racing, and so I think
he'll be better as a fresh horse. But I just
don't think he's up there. The three year olds have
been better than I thought, but I just don't think
(29:10):
they're up to a great older horse like the Japanese
champion Ushba Tesoro, who's three for three this year. He
won the Dubai World Cup, which is one of the
premier thoroughbred races anywhere in the world, and he has
looked awesome in the mornings. He's had some problems at
the starting game. I'm not too concerned about it, because
even if he breaks slow, it's a mile and a quarter.
(29:32):
He's going to be fine. I just don't find the
three year olds stepping up to the older horses right now,
And to me, one of the best three year olds
was Arcangelo. He ended up scratching out of the race
with a foot problem. I've just never been a huge
believer in Arabian Night. I bought the hype early on
and then his comeback. I think he's just kind of
the same horse. I don't think he's improved. He'll be
(29:53):
out there on the lead the thing you want to
watch early. There's another three year old in the race.
His name is Saudi Crown. He won the Pennsylvania Derby
last time out. He is the only horse I think
that can realistically challenge Arabian Knight. Brad Cox is his trainer,
and brad Cox was talking to us earlier in the
week and said, I'm not going to tell you my strategy,
but I do believe there is a legit rivalry between
(30:17):
brad Cox and Bob Baffort. The controversy with Bob Baffort
where he was disqualified from his winning the Kentucky Derby.
It was Brad Cox who trained the second place finisher
who got moved up via DQ. But it's still stuck
in the courts and it's all being delayed. So I
think there's a legit rivalry there. And I don't think
Brad Cox is going to have Saudi Crown back down
(30:38):
from Arabian Knight if those two go after each other.
I love Ushba Tasoro. White to Barrio is going to
get a lot of attention. White to Barrio is kind
of a crazy story in that is trainer Rick Dutrow
is coming off get this a ten year suspension. Rick Dutrow,
He's won the Kentucky Derby with Big Brown, he won
(31:02):
the Breeders Cup Classic with Saint Liam, and then he
ran a foul of regulators in New York and there
was one regulator who just absolutely hated him and was
able to impose a ten year pedal. I've never seen
anything like that in our sport. I mean, I've seen
people who could get banned for life, but I've never
seen someone at that level with what the transgressions were
(31:22):
got to be banned for ten years. So this is
his first year back, and he gets this horse, White
to Barrio, from a trainer Safi Joseph Junior in South Florida.
The owners transferred him to Rick Dutro. This horse ends
up winning one of the bigger races for older horses
at Saratoga and since he's been at San Anita, he's
trained better than anybody. I mean, it's unbelievable. His last
(31:45):
quarter mile in his last work was twenty two and four.
White to Barrio is going to be the wise guy
horse is also going to be just a wild story
because of Rick Dutro coming off a ten year suspension
in his first year back might win the biggest race
in our sport.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
He's on Twitter at Todd TVG. That is, at Todd
TVG Todd Shrump. Todd is always buddy, appreciate our visits.
Thanks so much for the stories. We'll find you tomorrow.
We'll find you tomorrow and uh we'll have some more fun.
You got it, man, Thanks so much.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I hope we get a Jets Viking super Bowl one day.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Thank you. Look at that.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (32:28):
App So twenty to sixteen, the Steelers win it, joining
us now in the hotline Nobody Better NFL on Fox
Insider Extraordinaire, host of The Unbreakable podcast, It is Jay Glazer.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Jay, what's happening, buddy?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Oh we're going man, I'll tell you, man, we were
just talking about Will Levis. I know those last couple
of passes weren't great, but what I've seen from the
first two weeks he's the real thing.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Jay. Well, look it is. We're going to get that.
They were just bringing it. So yeah, if you're like
Joey the way you can get a little shell shocked
from something like that, you can go okay from here.
It's gonna be kind of Rosie going on up.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I was gonna say, you're not finding a much better
tandem coming at you than Watton Heismith.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Oh man, they were, and they were just bringing it.
You know, He's just you know, obviously running for his
life all night here. But hey, welcome to the NFL.
Gotta learn sometimes.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Now for the Steelers, I feel like this is every
week the Steelers don't look good. They escape everybody is mad,
but they win. Like like, that's the start. That's a
Steeler story line every week.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Jay, that's my comblin team, right And he's never had
a losing season, so it's just like but also that's
how good he is. It's all those you know, adjustments
you make in game after halftime, and man, nobody doesn't
like them.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, there was just an interesting exchange earlier this week
obviously Matt Canada down on the sideline instead of up
in the booth, and earlier this week at a presser,
a phone drop and he's like, I didn't touch it.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I didn't touch it. You're gonna blame.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Me, Like, I don't know if he was shell shocked
or if he was just trying to be funny there.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Jay.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I think there's a weird space he's in right now.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Yeah. I mean, look, you know, obviously you know people
are you know, doesn't matter who you are players coach
where you get out a nune to it too at
all and you hear all the you know, the hate
that's going on. I was starting to coach the other
day and I said to him, he said, you know,
we don't listen to the to the noise, and we
keep it in the house and say, man, those days
are over. You may say, you know, we keep it
(34:31):
in the house and we don't listen to the noise,
but that's not the truth.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Man.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Everybody hear stuff. Your family hears it. You hear it
on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram whatever. It is like
those days of you just thinking that we're in this cocoon,
those days are over and you got to realize that.
And it was it was a head to head coach
is like, Hey, you're right. I didn't think about that
because because I'm not on social media, I didn't realize
I think that. You know, I'm I'm able to keep
(34:56):
myself in this tunnel. Are You're right? Just because I can?
Does me and everybody else does? I said, dude, even
if your players do, their family doesn't. And there you
know what I mean, everyone's kind of kind of close.
Coaches like this were under fire. Jay.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
When you look at this week, obviously we saw coaches
under fire. We saw the big change with the Raiders.
It was just a few weeks ago Mark Davis said, hey, guys,
trust me on Josh McDaniels. A couple weeks later, Josh
McDaniels is gone, can you make sense of the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Yeah, there's a total Traders move. Absolutely, Well that's it.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
That sounds beautiful, that's true. Just say Raiders, Raiders, Raiders
got a Raider.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Like, we're shocked.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Well, I was shocked that he dismissed him. Now I
figured the end of the year, in season, So it's
about don't people learn at some point somebody somewhere. But
I mean, but what what happened with that all meeting
last week? The all hands meeting?
Speaker 5 (35:54):
They need it, Yeah, I mean because people are you know,
and it was and it was yeah this this was listen.
And then I told you guys like that, the way
stuff has been done in the patrious way in the past,
it doesn't work as much anymore because damn thing, everything
doesn't just get kept in the house anymore. It's not
(36:16):
just his tunnel. And you can't know rule that way
the way they did it in years past. So you know,
players have voices now and much bigger voices, and when
dads aren't getting neared the right way, they're going to
chime up about it. Absolutely. And you know what, I
think the Raiders now and they need a culture guy, right,
(36:36):
They need a culture guy. And you know they they
had there. You know, Liz Pasati was a special teams coach,
get he was a culture guy. He wasn't like, oh,
I come for the offense. I'm coming up to the defense.
They need a guy who's gonna come in and help
with the culture there because they really haven't had, you know,
obviously a stable culture and so long. They need a
stability guy somehow, some way, And it wasn't I was
(36:57):
John Gruden. It's not a culture guys. Stability guy's a man.
He's a he's a folklore guy. You know, he's a character.
And Josh McDaniel's coming from the patrious way. That's not
it either. You need a guy who's really going to
stabilize the place to come in and help with culture
first and foremost, and that has not been built there
(37:18):
in the Raiders. And man, I have been coming this
leap for thirty years now. I can't I can't remember
what it was.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
You know, it's kind of funny and the crazy year
it is. You're saying the Raiders need their own Dan Campbell.
We have to look to the Detroit Lions. That's who
they need. We're gonna look at that lines for great leadership.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
They absolutely a million percent and look that you know,
greater is different hours.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
It's such a and I.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Feel bad from their fan base deserves, you know, a winner.
They travel so great, their fan base is so amazing,
and it's like, you know, you see it every year
and you see it happen. They make him his moves
and you're like, ah no, and and even if they
you know, I understand why they brought in the Patriots
way and we get it right, but you just can't
(38:03):
take somebody else's way and bringing the Raiders right because
there's so many outside factors. Being a Raider it's just different.
It's just totally different. So yeah, I think they need
like a you know, kind of a guy in that
let's say, you know, rich Tsachi kind of ame Whords
not a big fan, fair guy.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
He's going to come in and man coach up players
like Dan Campbell exactly one of those kind of guys.
We're going to just be able to build your culture
and give it stability. Raiders haven't had stability in so long.
They need stability.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah, And just always remembering off that Belichick tree, just
because you coached him and you hung around with him.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
You're not Bill Belichick. We've proven that doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
No, But you know what, here's here's the problem. And
that's why Bill Belichick's assistance a lot of a lot
of really don't work out because they try and be
mini Bills And I'll see through you in two seconds.
He's the most street smart dudes of the planet that
you coach him. And if you're trying to be somebody
you're not, They're going to figure you out in two seconds.
And if they feel like, man, he's fake, he's not.
(39:06):
He's not a he's not authentic. He's not going to
resonate with him. They're gonna put and now they're going
to push back harder than they ever have because they
have a voice. They have a big players have much
bigger voice out and they could be heard a lot more. So. Yeah,
it's that's why Belichick guys I think really don't work out.
They can't do the same type of thing because they
try and be somebody. They're enough.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Jay looking back at the deadline, Look, the Raiders don't
make a move, but they got a new head coach,
new GM. What was the move that was made that
that you that resonated with you the most, or a
move that wasn't made that resonated with you the most.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
I actually I actually loved the Montest what to There's
like they got to kind of build for future. I
really like Montest foot. It works his tail off. You
always know when you're getting you get this consistency, and
he's just he's like, you know, you kind of build
culture around that. I really like that move. I know
it's not it kind of counterproductive because he's like, hey, Chicot,
(40:02):
you want to kind of keep that draft stock down right.
Kicks sound but it is. But you have the ability
to bring in guys like this where you already know,
because it's such a crap shooting the draft, at least
you know what you're getting with him. I've really really
liked that deal. I thought it was great. And also look, obviously,
you know for all three of these d linemen in
(40:24):
Chase Young for San Francisco, they get a little more
flash there, and you know they could just run them
for the season if they want to. But also like
Seattle suddenly first placed, getting a guy like Leonard Williams
who is a dog on that defense, and they don't
have a lot of flash in that defense degenerate and
pass rush with Jamal you know, Adam and things like that.
Getting creative having a guy like that, I remember, you know,
(40:45):
lamming hat a guy like that in in ages.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Yeah, the curiosity for me being the Chicago lunatic that
I am Jay and bringing sweat in the same day
that you have to fire another coach with HR involved
and can't talk about it, just like when your defensive
coordinator went missing. So the first thing with guy that
you want to negotiate a contract with is, oh, yeah,
the running back coach left, But we don't have any
problems here.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
He's going to be raising his hand asking questions immediately.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
That's the tick, like, hey, luckily I got to talk
about Sacks. I don't have to talk about HR. We're good.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
No, that's true, And he is getting out of Washington
and their dysfunctioned. So I guess I know you trade
one for.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
The other quation too, because it's like, all right, you're
you have a head coach in the GM who they
order to come in and move on to the head
coach in the gym. SU. There's not gonna want to
move on some talent because I want to keep them
there because they want to save their jobs, right sure,
but at the same time, you know the owner is
going to be like, hey, let's you know, we're gonna
have a full reload here. So it was it was
(41:45):
a really interesting That was an interesting dichotomy.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Uh check out Jay on Twitter at Jay Glazer, that
is at Jay Glazer. Hey your Unbreakable podcast. This week
you had maybe your most important guest ever, the guy
that's got you paying free for the first my life right.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Oh my god, yes, doctor. You know everybody since I've
got my stemseul streaming down and pat them up, people
have asked, people have asked. I'm like, look, I'm not
the doc, and I tell people about it and I
tell well, my results are and other people's results are,
but like, you got to have this guy. He's and
I don't, you know know the sign. So I was like,
I'm just gonna have I called them. I said, hey,
can I have him on so he can ask all
(42:23):
the answer all the questions basically everyone's asked to me.
And it was fantastic and it really I told someone
about it again today. I am not just pain nerve
paying free in my back, which I ruptured my first
my first disc in two thousand and one at Heads
Up Racing's accountmy of New York. Man, I have never
(42:44):
felt pain like that my entire life. And it's never
gone away like I've never been paying free since two
thousand and one till now. And people out there who
understand back pain, man, it affects your mental health, It
affects everything. Is no joke. And I have had seven
ruptures of all the stupid stuff I've done since and
and miss Parcel Arts and trained all these guys and
(43:05):
got my moron. And I'm not saying stem Cell is
going to cure me for being a moron, but and
you know, I was, I was a week away from
getting my back fused. When I was gonna get I
was getting three fusion into my back L four, L five,
L one, L two and T seven L one. It
was gonna change my life forever and for the for
(43:27):
the worst, you know. And I went down there Panama
threw up a hall. Mary and I have been nerve
pain free since I was in Unbreakable today. And you know,
one of our coaches and there a Jason's like that.
It's just it's great to see you be able to
turn your hips rotate what I have been able to
do in years, like I've had an altar. The way
(43:48):
I move and getting out of bed is terrible every morning,
and now I popped right out of bed like this.
When I went down and got stem Cell. My fiance Rosie,
I got a bet. She's like, oh my god, I said,
what look at you? You're standing straight up. You're five
to seven again. Oh? There we go over.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Jan the club together again Jay Jay Laser five five
five seven after stem cellver j as always, Buddy, guys, it's.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Steeled, my shoulders, my handkle everything. Tune in to Unbreakable
this week. Listen doctor James Buckley and VM Origins. If
you're if you're interested, it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
You're the best there it is.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Get the link on Twitter as well at Jay Glazer
more the Unbreakable Podcast.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Jay be good, buddy, we'll talk to you next week.
Great stuff, Jay, I love you man.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Be good
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