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here we are a day after the World Series. Yeah,
looking at it next year. A lot of the odds
are ound.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
One thing to do not believe how many tweets and
texts I got saying wow, Jason really ducked crowning gromme
insures are as World Series champions.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
All right, let me be honest with it. Let me
be because I I really I didn't know how I
was going to feel with the Rangers winning the World Series.
Now the word the disaster scenario was averted. Nobody from
the NL East won the World Series, Okay, so I
will accept whatever the second result is. That's fine. And
the Yankees didn't make the plants. I have to worry
about that, that's good. So I didn't know how I
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was gonna feel. And the Rangers won last night, and
I said to myself, yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, you were happy.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Harmon was right, uh series and the MVP.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I was happy for you for that, But I know
I didn't I didn't really care that they won because
the grumm and shirts are really didn't do anything and
they still get d Yeah, okay, still go down in history.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yes, Rolins series.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Wait, when you get a ring and the final game
you're wearing the playoff hoodie sweatshirt because you're not actually
on the active roster, you win, you win, Okay. So
I was actually fine with it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I was goin to know they were an instrumental Psyche's
of the relief pitchers, or maybe helping Evaldi right, because
you want to talk about a guy walking a tight
worpe Valdi was as we were talking Carrie Rhodes in
for you last night, and when you can strand nine
guys in scoring position.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
When you decide to bunt with your number three hitter,
you get what you got, Diamond. They got what they deserve.
When you're bunting with your number You know me, I
hate the bunt anyway, but you but you're bunting with
your numbers. You deserve to not score runs. You deserve it.
Well deserve it, all of them.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
We talked about it before the series began, and one
of the things I feared was potentially the Hey, they'll
figure out how to manufacture runs. Yeah, but that became
their only strategy. Yeah, get them on, get them over,
and then they're standing waiting at you from second and
third base.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I really I was. I was fine because of that
because Scherzer and de Gram didn't do anything. And look,
the Rangers don't care because they won the World Series.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No one should.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
They can they won the World Series. The Rangers were terrific. Right,
they win the World Series, they get enough starting pitching.
You know, Look, Nathan Valdi suddenly is somehow suddenly the
big postseason ace. Now we're talking about him and Sonner Kershaw. Hey, fine, right,
I get it, But they didn't do anything. So I'm
okay with it. I'm okay with knowing that Max Schurzer
is just deteriorating before our eyes and we don't have him.
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We have the Rangers' best prospect instead, and Jacob de
Gram may not pitch again until the end of next
year if he does, so I'm okay with it. I'm
okay with it. The big lesson to takeaway, to be
quite honest with you, and it's.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
The other teams can win, I can suck, and I
can denigrate their record.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
No no, no, no, no no no, this is good. I
gotta tell you. I don't care about that. But uh,
never underestimate what the mental edge a team gets by
going for it, because you look at the Rangers, who
got absolutely nothing from the guys they went out and
spent the most money on and put the most capital
out there on Right, they spend all the money on
to Grom, they get basically nothing from him, and they're
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not gonna get anything from next year. They go out
and get Max Scherzer, who was okay during the regular season,
red fine. Regular season, he was fine. Playoffs he was awful.
He was awful. He looked like a closer who you
were asking him to go more than one inning and
he couldn't really do it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
No physically, no. Watch the deterioration right quick.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, And you know that's gonna be it next year
for Max Scherzer. Every year from the Mets signed him,
I knew the first year was gonna be the best.
Then the next year wouldn't be as good as the first,
and the third year wouldn't be as good as a second. Right,
And that's where it's going for Max Scherzer. But sometimes
when you just send that message, whether it's in the
offseat where you have a good team, where loaded at
ryt Seeger simme and we everything. Hey, let's go get
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that Ace Pitcher. All right, that's great, Hey we lost him.
Guess what, We're gonna go get another Race pitcher the deadline.
We believe in this team and we're gonna go do it.
And even though you didn't get anything from the guys,
you still won. This Rangers team should have never won
the World Series. They're one of the least talented teams.
They're barely more talented than Diamondbacks are. Right, it was
an NBA j World Series. The Rangers two stars were
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better than the Diamondbacks two stars and that's why they won.
They should have never won. They're not that talented, but
they go on and win. Never underestimate just the mentality
of a team and the belief you have when the
entire organization is on the same page of we're going
for it. Here's the ace pitcher we need, but he's hurt,
doesn't matter. We're going to get another guy, but he stinks,
doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's kind of what the Rangers did, and you could
tell that the entire season. They never lost their belief,
even when things got tougher down the stretch. They wind
up squeaking into the playoffs as a wild card. They
don't win the division, and they go on and they
don't lose a game on the road. All right. You
know that's a team that was locked in, focused, the
entire organization moving forward. There was no well we kind
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of sold the deadline, but we didn't really and can
we go forward? Can we still win? Are we still good? Enough,
are we not? There was none of that, and that
can't be undersold enough that when you go for it,
you send a mat and you continue to go for
it even it doesn't work out. You send a message
to the team that we think we're gonna and there's
never any fracture. There's never any We go through the motions,
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never waiting for the other shoe to drop, going we're
gonna start losing at some point. The Rangers had that
belief and that's what the Graminchuerser brought them well.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And the other part that you get into it is
having the veteran manager. As much as we love to
talk about analytics, unless we don't and over analyze those
folks that are up in the booths and their relationship
to the managers down in the dugout. And certainly, look
we're here in Los Angeles, we do it all the
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time as related to how much is Dave Roberts, how
much is the front office, and what kind of game
of telephone are we playing there with roster management, pitching management,
et cetera. Where's Bochi's in that dugout getting the job
done right? He comes back wins his fourth World Series.
We talked with John Paul Morosi last night. I mean,
you now make the argument that he's your best manager
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of this modern era. Right, You got a couple of
guys with more World series. He's tied with Tory and
one ahead of Larusa. And then we can start to
quibble about the pieces that roll through. But veteran leadership,
Dusty Baker there in Houston, calm the storm. So it's
everything could be swirling underneath, but we're all cool like
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a bunch of little Fonsie. Shout out Henry Winkler. It
was his birthday the other day and he's got a
book out and all that fun. But just that idea
of calming and having this ability.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
This was great.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
This one from MLB Network earlier this morning. Bruce Bochi
was able to pencil in Marcus simeon leadoff spot in
all one hundred and seventy nine games they played, no injury,
no sick days, no days off. Your leadoff man was there,
and he came up huge at the back end of
this World series.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Unlike rookie Betts, who was penciling the leadoff spot every
day and then came up very small. Well, you know,
he looked like he was having fun at the World Series.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, definitely, yeah, a hell of a time
until Corey Seeger looked at him, like.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Good Jason up for Usberg?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
How does the field know that that the Grom and
surez Are combined have more World Series titles than the Mets.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It feels pretty good, right? We have two? Mets have
two sixty nine eighty six. Yeah, they have two. They
have two. That's GM have three. That's not more.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I just liked that you didn't say nineteen sixty nine
the joke, right.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Okay, sure greater than Sureser doesn't count with the with
the with the Nationals because it was before he became
a Met. It's got to be Mets or after. You
don't make that rules. It's got to be mets Are
after he got the ring, doesn't it. It's got to
be Now if you said, how the ring? How would
you feel if de Gram, sures Are, and Travis Jankowski
all have more rings than the Mets? Do that Will
Smith combined has more rings than the Mets. Well, that's
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the thing. We gotta we gotta just sign Will Smith
because if you have him, you win the World Series.
Last three years on the world serious winner. It's got
to get Will Smith. I mean, I mean there's a
lot of Will Smith' out there. Got to make sure
you get the right one right for you.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Know, when you're looking it up in the phone book,
you really do need to little do a little more research.
But absolutely, no, that was fun last night. We were
sorry you weren't here to partake of it. A great
end and now we're watching a fantastic Thursday night football game. Yeah,
Steelers and Titans and Will Levis, who he talked about
a bit on Monday show Man. He's got the mentality
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of all those veteran quarterbacks that I love so much
that when they come in they have no conscience. I've
got the arm strength, I've got the ability. I'm getting
the ball there.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
No, he's been good. He's been good. But let's not
lose lose side of this. I went positive. Let's that
Kenny Pickett stinks. Okay, let let's be let's be honest,
all right, because he's three.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Inches of dirt from having thrown a touchdown right before halftime.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
He was also just three inches of dirt for a
pick six.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know what it was, It fell harmlessly into the.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Ground, look, look, look, let's for everybody who really loved
jumping up and down when I said in the offseason,
Kenny Pickett is just a tiny bit better than Zach Wilson.
And now you don't even know if Kenny Pickett's better
than Zack Wilson. And all the hate that I got,
oh you can get. People the network were like, are
you kidding me? Then Kenny Picket's bad. Oh you know,
(10:01):
Kenny Pickett, Look at the last five games. You stop
throwing interceptions, right, that means he's good. No, not throwing
interceptions doesn't mean you're progressing as a quarterback. It just
means you're not throwing interceptions. Kenny Pickett is a limited quarterback.
Kenny Pickett has pretty good weapons around He's got two
pretty good running backs, he's got two pretty good wide receivers,
and the Steelers find a way to not put points
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on the board. And there are different combinations of players
who are available not available, but the one common denominator
has been Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett is limited. He is
not even an elite game manager. He is a game manager.
And when you don't have elite talent around you, this
is what you wind up seeing and this is Kenny Pickett, who,
as you're seeing, makes really bad throws, throws behind his
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receivers a lot. He's just not very good. And all
the wanting and hoping and hey, I'm gonna hope that
Kenny Pickett is better. And when you say Kenny Pickett
is bad, I'm gonna get really mad at you. Kenny
Pickett is just a tech. If you said, right now,
if I could have Kenny Pickett or Zach Wilson Man,
that's close. That's close. I mean, I still like PI
Kenny Pickett, but that's really close.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I would get rid of both of their respective coordinators
and QB coaches. I got to figure out who that
guy is. Oh wait, I do I get Matt Canada too. No,
but that's apparently because apparently it's his fault. It's not
Kenny Pickett's fault, it's Matt Canada's. Look, I'm not gonna
blame Canada for all of it. He's on the sidelines tonight.
They brought all that was a big deal. But clearly
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he stinks in terms of Blake all play selection because
individually and Najie Harris I think has been a bit overrated,
although he's has having a nice night tonight, right got
the early touchdown run. He's got nine for fifty seven
and a score, a couple of catches as well.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But well, yeah, they figured out the Russian game, they
figured out in Jars are a pretty good combination and Warren.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Warren's the better and more explosive back, certainly a better
receiver out of the backfield, but you look at the
receiving corps, You're not able to really use George Pickens
in this game. He's got one reception for two yards.
You've got Deontay Johnson everything short and then hope and
pray for yak. So this is one of those where
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you would load up on guys like Brandon Marshall and
Kwon Bolden and the like who like to block down field.
That's what you need if you're gonna run an offense
like this. It looks guys that can seal on the outside.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It looks like watching Ben Roethlisberger at the end when
Roethlisberger could throw the ball seven yards and you're, hey,
make something out of that, What do you mean, make something?
I can't throw the ball more than this, Make something
out of it? Makes you makes that. That's what it's
like watching Kenny pit Two gloves Kenny, you know, I
mean from two Glove Teddy. He was not doing anymore
Two gloves Kenny. No, that's real, That's what it is.
Kenny Pickett is just a guy. He's not even an
elite game manager. He's not even brock Perty. He is
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just a game manager.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But you know he is undefeated, you know against the
spread in prime time.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah there, well, hey, look there's positives. I'm not saying
there's not positives, and that may be the best one.
That's the first live of Wikipedia page entry. Kenny Pickett
undefeated against the spread in primetife.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You've bet him consistently.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You were a winner, eh, twitter At how about a fresca?
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thirteen to ten lead over the Steelers, but coming up
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this weekend. And one of his big claims to fame
is he was piled driven by Jerry the King Lawler
during an event, a move that is now outlawed. It's
coming up next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
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Speaker 1 (14:02):
Five minutes ago in the third quarter, Titans and Steelers
tied at thirteen. But wait a minute, I thought George
Pickens caught a touchdown. How's it thirteen thirteen? Well, let
me tell you this is all on George Pickens because
Kenny Pickett throws a really nice past him in the
corner of the end zone.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You heard you, Yeah, maybe stepping up a little bit
up in the when the atmosphere and it was grabbed
and he said he hunked out on it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
It still might be Kenny Pickett's fault. I don't know
how it might be Kennet Pickett's fault, but Pickett throws
a touchdown, and George Pickens has to know where he
is on the field. He's got to know I'm in
the end zone. I got a toe tap. I gotta
make sure I get my foot down. He has all
kinds of room to get his second foot down, and
instead just thought I can catch this, doesn't matter what
no field awareness, no awareness where he's at all. It
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was a third down play and he comes down. You're
gonna watch this and go, how does he not come
down and bounce because he doesn't take the care to
do what the best wide receivers in the NFL need
to do, and that's I'm in the end zone, bring
my foot down. Doesn't do it, steps out of bounds
with his second foot and it's inexcusable. When you see it,
you'll see how inexcusable it is. And I don't know
is it gonna be on the bench for a while.
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If I'm Mike Tomlin, I got to think about it.
Because he cost the Steelers four points. Since it was
a third down play, it turned a fourth down. They
had to kick a field goal in the thirteen to
thirteen game late in the third quarter. Those four points
could wind up being the difference. It's all on George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean it was just a lazy end of route.
I mean, having no idea and field presence because there's
a lot of green around him, right, pretty easy catch
if he concentrates. They're not like you're having a safety
barreling down on you getting ready to take you out.
That was legitimately a all right, just know where you're
at on the field, spot your feet, I mean, which
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these guys do a million times in the practice. Right,
You've seen workouts. It's like, all right, here's my toe tap.
All right, here's my toe tap. Get that JUG's gone
up to one hundred miles an hour. Watch me still
concentrate and get my eat down. And here, I mean
just non chalant. I can't have it.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, look, go back to the Mike single, Jarry Rant, Kenny,
Kenny Pickketts isn't gonna throw a lot of good passes.
You gotta make sure what he throws a good one,
you get a touchdown for him. I know you the man,
Kenny want to double down he's one of the way
he was, so you gotta make sure that they're not
that rare' that's the blood Dan. His receivers aren't quite
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to where the Ravens have been at times this year,
but they've led him down on a number of occasions. Dude,
this is this is where you you have to come through.
You have to come through on a play like that
because you don't know what Kenny Pickett's next row is
going to be into the stands. You have no idea
the larger issue.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Take it. Take it away from your Kenny Pickett. Slander
is just the margin for error in these games.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You don't have it. Four points is a lot windy
over under his thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Thirty seven shut off Fox Sports Radio That Jason Smith
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Com studios. We we are in the final stretch to
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(17:15):
on the hotline to take a look at it. FanDuel
TV anchor, He joined us last year. We had so
much funs on with us. Again, my brother stalked him
last year a photo with him. That's are you how good?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
It was?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Ty shirt?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You're really going band to Horses?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, buddy, you for an extra, for an extra for
five dollars. What movie was this song featured in? Band
of Horses?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
This is the band. Yeah, So we're asking what movie
was it featured in? Definitely not Silence of the Lambs. No,
I'm gonna say the one with the dude in it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Not big Lebowski. Really no, not big Lebowski. Joining us
on the hotline. Maybe our next guest knows, longtime FanDuel
TV anchor, we're going to talk about the biggest moment,
one of the biggest moments in his career coming up
as well. It is Todd Shrump, who fortunately or unfortunately
is also a lifelong Minnesota Vikings fan pod Welcome to
(18:09):
the show. We're very sorry about everything the last few
days I have to.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Say, but here's the thing. It was after the two
thousand and nine NFC Championship game, where they lost to
the Saints, which turned out to beat bounty gate. And
then of course they changed the overtime rules after that game,
too late for the Vikings and all that. But I
went for a walk after losing that heartbreak of the
game to go to the super Bowl, and I didn't
stop walking for two and a half hours. And I
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sat there and I'm like, this team doesn't even know
I exist? What is wrong with me? But that's what
happens when you fall in love with teams. And it's funny.
My cousin and I talk about this all the time
because he's for Minnesota as well, obviously, and he said,
why couldn't our parents have given us some other team
to root for? This has just led to so much heartbreak.
So yeah, the last couple of days, I mean, we
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did get a rocket scientist to replace Kirkus, so maybe
there's something there. But I yeah, being a Vikings fan,
just when you think you've seen it all, they event
new ways to disappoint you.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Dude. I'm a Jets fan, Mike's a Bears fan. We're
with you, Yeah, I mean, this is the three We're
all the same, the same deep end of the pool.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
All three of us here, Bud, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
The misery truly does love company in this case. So
I'm glad to hang with you guys.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
All right, let me now, let me ask a question.
Let let's test and see how deep your love of
the Vikings goes? Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Okay? Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Deep is your love? He's going on, Beg's.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I could guarantee you picked the winners of all three
Big Breeders Cup races this weekend or Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I walked the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Wow, I can't even get the second.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Half out, Dude.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I wasn't even gonna I was gonna say, Josh Dobbs
lead you to the playoffs. I was gonna say, playoffs. Oh,
Josh Dobbs get you to the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, yeah, I mean, here's the whole thing. Give me
the playoffs is fine? I mean so no, I just
I've gone to the point where I believe this, but
yet I still hang around and they give me hope.
I just don't think it's happening in my lifetime, and
that scares me. I don't. It's like the Cubs fans
who never thought it would happen in their lifetime, and
you hear about the one hundred year old Cubs fan
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who finally saw the World Series. I'm going to hang
on as long as I can, but it may take
to be one hundred to see a Viking Super Bowl win.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
All right now, let me let me take this now.
One of the big highlights you care you told we
talked about it last year with you do. One of
the biggest things for TVG when you got piled driven
by Jerry the King Lawler, very famous moment. Would you
be willing to be piled dry? Pile driven?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Driven?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Drive?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Pile driven again for a Viking super Bowl? Another pile
driver for a Viking super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
My neck is seizing up as we speak. I told
everyone I said that was a one off. I walked
away going. Wrestlers are absolutely athletes and the King is
for real and never be piled driven. You know what, No,
it's probably not worth that. It's probably not worth that.
That's probably where I draw the line.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Wow, another pile another pile driver.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Which is basically banned.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Right there you go. You got one of those before
they outlawed.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
What did it?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
What did it feel like like?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
What did it feel like? Because when I was little,
I remember all my friends would do that. We do
the wrestling moves, and the figure four leg lock was
so unbelievably painful. I'm like, oh my god, oh my god,
oh my god, what did the pile driver feel like
when it happened to you?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
So do you want to know how it's how it's
supposed to go down? Because I only tell this story
off Eric. I tell her that at dinner parties when
people want to ask me, Oh no, no, I want.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
To I want to hear, didn't you? I want to
hear the party store.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're we're giving it. We're giving away
the magic. So the King basically tells me how the
match is going to go. And he goes, I'm going
you're you're partner, and we had partners for this. He
had a partner and had a partner, and he goes,
your partner's going to abandon you. Now it's just you
and being the ring. I'm like, okay, he goes, I'm
going to kick you in the stomach, all right, Then
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you're going to take your head. You're going to tuck
it up in between my legs, and then I'm going
to get you vertical. We're going to drop to the
ring and my legs are going to cushion your head.
And I looked at him, I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, in theory, right, they come together and you get
a cushion.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
So I'm like, all right, of course, you know, I'm
a supreme athlete. I do this all the time, so
if the king messes up, I'm good. So before the match,
we were meeting an area where no one can see this,
and he he said, okay, let's let me see if
I can get you a vertical. So I touched my
legs up. He gets me like six inches off the
ground and he puts me down. He goes, how much
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do you weigh? I wait, two forty five. He's like okay.
So then now he tries again. He gets me probably
two and a half feet off the ground, but not vertical,
and he goes, all right, I think we can do it.
So the match happens, I get abandoned, I'm in the ring.
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He kicks me in the stomach, and just like he said,
and that's why I said, the athletes, he gets me
completely vertical. We dropped to the ring, but I feel
the right side at the top of my head hit
the ring. And I got one of those next singers.
So if you watch the replay, I'm so concerned that
I've got this next singer. I pop up and if
you look at him, he goes get down. I play
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back down. They take me on a flatboard. They take
me to the far end of the parking lot of
Sam Houston Racecourse because I went down to Texas to
do this and they let me out. But to this day,
I always think about that next thinger and I'm like,
that could have gone terribly wrong. But he's a complete pro.
I was a complete amateur, and that's why I said
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it was a one off, and I'm so glad I
did it. And it's amazing how many people to this day,
because you're going back that was about nineteen years ago,
and people will come up and ask for out. Sure,
Lawler and remember that moment.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's his dark side. That's your dark side of the
moon man. That's gonna be it. That's it.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Oh yeah, no, no, that is absolutely that is what
I'm going to leave this earth with. One of my
biggest accomplishments. You know, Michaelangelo has his Sisteine Chapel. I've
got being piled driven by.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The King Well, and now we have twenty two races
over the next two days, all the horses coming from
I've been watching all the workouts online because I'm a
degenerate in the morning when I can't sleep Todd. So
when we look at this, the build up, the anticipation,
how do you pace yourself and can you keep your
neck you know, and head on a swivel after being
piled driven all those years ago.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
I was just saying to your amazing producer Justin and
he probably told you guys this to just give you
an idea of the for deetic pace. I called in
last night when you guys weren't on air.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I was here.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I'm always here.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I mean, come on, living in the studio. More tips
you can get the better.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Justin answers the phone and and he goes hello, and
I'm like, it's Todd Truck from Fanbuel TV. He's like, yeah,
it twenty five and so he's like, no, I think
it's I think it's tomorrow. At first he thought I
was calling in with some type of breaking news in
the world. So that's just one example of how it gets.
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It gets a predetic pace. And with those morning shows
and I'm glad you watch them because we've done ten
days from seven am to ten am Pacific time, just
showing the workouts live. There's over two hundred horses that
come from across the world and across the country for
these two days of racing, so there's a lot to
keep track of. It's great you're running on adrenaline, but
it is one of those things and you guys known
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it as well. When you lead up to, say the
playoffs in any sport, or maybe up to the Super Bowl.
You do all these shows and by the time you
get to the actual event, there's not much gas in
the tank. But I love it so much I wouldn't
want to be anywhere else. And you know, everyone knows
the Kentucky Derby, but for those who follow the sport,
they know the two biggest days are the Breeders' Cup.
They're the best betting days and they have the best
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horses from memory. So those horses that you saw competing
in the Kentucky Derby, they're three year olds. They only
get one chance. You won't see them next year in
the Kentucky Derby. That's just one division. So this is
every division that we have in thoroughbred racing, every type
of discipline, from sprinting on the turf to going long
on the grass, to sprinting on the dirt, to going
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long on the dirt, to younger horses to older horses.
They're all here. And then you add in the international
part of it, where Japan has some of their amazing
champions over here this year, and then always coming over
is Aidan O'Brien and his contingent from Ireland, and then
the Dolphin, who's a global powerhouse. They have horses coming
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in from all over the world. It is phenomenal. And
if you're just a casualist sports fan, and I think
in southern California we take for granted so many of
our sporting venues. It kind of takes someone from out
of town to take to a game to realize, Wow,
this is in our backyard. You know. Chavez Ravine is
treasured and should be and is a phenomenal experience to
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go to a Dodger game. Santa Anita is as iconic
of a sporting venue you'll find. Yes, it's horse racing,
but when you sit in that grand stand and you
look out at the San Gabriel Mountains and you think
those mountains have been there for centuries, and that has
been the view out of that grand stand for over
one hundred years, and it changes every day. There's nothing
like it anywhere in the world. It's fun to watch
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the international competitors come over here who haven't been to
Santa Anita before and they're just awestruck at what a
beautiful facility it is. We're fortunate to have that in
southern California and that's why Santa Anita is going to
host the Breeders' Cup for a record eleventh time now.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Now, todd One thing though, as you talk about the
average horse racing fan knows, hey, we're looking at Arabian
Night being the big horse. Now didn't get a favorable
pole position on the draw. So a two part question
for you here. One still overwhelming favorite and two isn't
every year there's a horse named Arabian Knight. I think
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there is like big Arabian Nights, big and the breeders
got breaters out of this big year that I think.
I feel like every year, no Arabian Night. Arabian Night,
I think, I think you're fooling me and we're bringing
back the same.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Horses statistically, I can't back that up for you, but
I absolutely think you're right. I think you're absolutely right.
I hadn't taken time to think about that, but I
do believe there has been a thematic trend in the
last few years and big races with Arabian a Knight,
and somewhere in the names. As far as this particular horse,
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Arabian Night, he's really coming. At the beginning of the year,
Bob Bafford was trying to hint that this horse was
as good as American Pharaoh, and if you watched his
races as a two year old, you kind of bought
into it. His first race as a three year old
was sensational, and everyone thought, if this horse stays healthy
and things work out, maybe he is just going to
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roll through the spring Classics for three year olds. Instead,
he got an injury, he went to the sidelines. He
re emerged in late July and the TVG dot com
haskell he had a weird race. He got out near
the lead and then he started to fade. He was
just a tired horse, and then after the wire he
kind of went by everyone again on the gallop out.
So now fast forward after that, he goes to the
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FANDUL Pacific Classic at Delmar He wins at a mile
and a quarter in a gutty victory. He holds on
to win by a head, but the time wasn't impressive
and two oh three does he have another move forward? Yeah?
I think that's why Bob Baffert instead of racing him
between the FanDuel Pacific Classic back in August and now
here in November for the long Jene Braiders Cup Classic.
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I think he waited because Bob's great off the layoff.
I think he, you know, because this is a younger horse,
a three year old. He wants to give him a
chance to develop instead of racing, and so I think
he'll be better as a fresh horse. But I just
don't think he's up there. The three year olds have
been better than I thought, but I just don't think
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they're up to a great older horse like the Japanese
champion Ushba Tesoro, who's three for three this year. He
won the Dubai World Cup, which is one of the
premier thoroughbred races anywhere in the world, and he has
looked awesome in the mornings. He's had some problems at
the starting game I'm not too concerned about it because
even if he breaks slow, it's a mile and a quarter.
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He's going to be fine. I just don't find the
three year olds stepping up to the older horses right now.
And to me, one of the best three year olds
was Arcangelo. He ended up scratching out of the race
with a foot problem. I've just never been a huge
believer in Arabian Night. I bought the hype early on
and then his comeback. I think he's just kind of
the same horse. I don't think he's improved. He'll be
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out there on the lead the thing you want to
watch early. There's another three year old in the race.
His name is Saudi Crown. He won the Pennsylvania Derby
last time out. He is the only horse I think
that can realistically challenge Arabian Night. Brad Cox is his trainer,
and brad Cox was talking to us earlier in the
week and said, I'm not going to tell you my strategy,
but I do believe there is a legit rivalry between
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brad Cox and Bob Baffort. The controversy with Bob Baffort
where he was disqualified from his winning the Kentucky Derby.
It was Brad Cox who trained the second place finisher
who got moved up via DQ. But it's still stuck
in the courts and it's all being delayed. So I
think there's a legit rivalry there, and I don't think
Brad Cox is going to have Saudi Crown back down
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from Arabian Knight if those two go after each other.
I love Ushba Tasoro. White to Barrio is going to
get a lot of attention. White to Barrio is kind
of a crazy story in that is trainer Rick Dutrow
is coming off get this a ten year suspension. Rick Dutrow,
He's won the Kentucky Derby with Big Brown, he won
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the Breeders Cup Classic was St Liam and then he
ran a foul of regulators in New York and there
was one regulator who just absolutely hated him and was
able to impose a ten year pedal. I've never seen
anything like that in our sport. I mean, I've seen
people who could get banned for life, but I've never
seen someone at that level with what the transgressions were
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got to be banned for ten years. So this is
his first year back and he gets this horse White
to Barrio from a trainer Safi Joseph Junior in South Florida.
The owner's transferre him to Rick Dutro. This horse ends
up winning one of the bigger races for older horses
at Saratoga, and since he's been at San Anita, he's
trained better than anybody. I mean, it's unbelievable. His last
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quarter miole in his last work was twenty two and four.
White to Barrio is going to be the wise guy
horse is also going to be just a wild story
because of Rick Dutro coming off a ten year suspension
in his first year back, might win the biggest race
in our sport.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
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Speaker 1 (33:03):
Nick Cage, Oh what budget cuts? I'm sorry, We'll keep going.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Oh right, we have.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
We had to cut the budget. We can't run Nick
Cage anymore. Jason, you saw a bad movie? Was Fox
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I thought you're gonna play it again. That's why I
stopped talking serious talk. That movie was really bad, Jason.
What was Nick Cage won the vampire one.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Oh Ren Fee feels bad.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean really had really good sharp teeth,
But that was kind of it. Thursday Night Football, Kenny
Pickett and the Steelers trailing by three. They have the
ball their own twenty yard line with about seven fifty
seven not about there is seven to fifty seven left
to go in this game. The Titans tried to even
their record at four and four, the Steelers trying to
go to five and three despite the fact everything's going row.
(33:58):
Look out, well, the Steelers are playing now the game
of the week in the NFL. We'll have more in
this game coming up in a few minutes. Game of
the Week in the NFL is going to be in Germany. Yeah,
to get up early to watch the Chiefs and the Dolphins.
Right now. If you're London, you're like, really, we get
the bleeping Jaguars every couple of weeks and Germany gets
the Dolphins and the Chiefs. Come on, man, what the hell?
(34:19):
We've been loyal to you guys for so long. You
could give it somebody else other than the Jaguars in
a scrimmage, and you give the Chiefs the game of
the year in the NFL, you give them to the
you give to Germany.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Come on, I will say this, I applaud you for
taking that part in the London angst. And if you
look on certain fantasy websites, they've got it as a
London game. They haven't even changed it.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Oh, no, one's gonna pay attention the.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Germany that you got to have your line up sept
this game by pacificar Land Higher Land Wells because because
the belly aching the rest of the week. It's it's
like when you put in for the doctor's appointment, right
the kids check ups ahead of school. You lament it
as you do it because you got to sit on
hold all right, No that part of it, No, I
can't do it that day. How about the morning? No,
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she's on vacation about that, and then whatever. You finally
set on a date and it goes away, and then
all of a sudden it becomes the week of and
you're like, oh, Wednesday afternoon, we're gonna be in the doctor's.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Office the whole day. That's what it felt like. It
went away, right.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
People complained at the initial schedule, and then as soon
as the promos started of hey, this game is in Germany,
why are we sending that.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
J said that Dolphins in Germany. Oh my god, it's
it's been there since the schedule.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
It's been there.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's it's like, oh man.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Hey, last minute. Listen, the game is not going to
be an arrowhead. You guys have to go to Germany.
Wait what Yeah? Sorry about that? Good deal?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Dare you?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
The war of words began today and Tyreek Hill said
the Chiefs are gonna quote get this work from Miami now.
Tyreek Hill playing against his former team, Uh, there will
be a lot of points in this game. And I
agree with Tyreek Hill. The Chiefs are going to get
this work from Miami. Miami's already there. The Chiefs are
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getting there now, so you have the jet lag issue.
Teams that have gone gone there early always said they
feel better playing in the game. But bottom line is,
the Dolphins are a better team and the Chiefs are
really gonna rue not getting a big wide receiver at
the deadline, and you're gonna see that manifested in this game.
They're not going to be able to keep up with
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the Dolphins, who are going to be too much offensively,
and the Dolphins win this game.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Are you going back to I Carle the villain Neville
who kept saying, you'll rue this day.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You rue this day.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I just always like you rue this day.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's good. That was his quote as a super villain.
You will rule rude this day, Carly she time and
time again. Okay, I'm going to the other side. I'll
take the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Wow, maybe there's a bunch.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Of they're both on the road. They're both on the road,
very far on the road. Well, but just.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
That they don't have the swifties all state side. You
don't think their swifties in Germany that's at the same level.
I think they're gonna have a bunch of cardboard cutouts
to try to bolster the confidence of Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
More football on the way, Plus we take a look
at who could win the World Series next year. It's
coming up next Jason and Mike from the Tireck dot
Com Studios, Fox