November 7, 2023 • 35 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to the Jets losing to the Chargers on Monday night. Jason laments the terrible play of his team and explains why the illusion of hope has made this year even worse for the Jets. Plus, the college basketball season opened on Monday night and we may already have our biggest upset of the year!
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Make it twenty seven to six, charges with the lead
over the Jets. I hate football. Uh. The Jets get
the ball back twenty to six. They trail and Zach
Wilson gets the ball knocked out of his hands. It's
picked up, it's a fumble. It's returned all the way
to the Jets one yard line touchdown run of the
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next play by Eckler make it twenty seven to six,
Chargers lead the Jets. Now we're closing it on two
minutes and Zach Wilson still clapping his hands in the
side and going, come on, guys, let's go. Now slid
out at the two, I would have had the most
improbable comeback in a Fantasy league ever because the Chargers
would have gone over thirty points the night. Insteadies slides
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out at the two is foot just over the chuck
and the pebbles, all game up and then you get
the punch in. But this is like the Ravens game yesterday.
Folks that didn't watch it, you see the final score,
going my quarterback kicked ass. Yeah, yeah, no, my quarterback
didn't do it anything, threw fo one hundred yards. Oh
yeah no. Look, there's part of me that says, now, okay,
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there's part of me. There's part of me that said,
you know, when they returned that punch for a touchdown,
that was probably the game. Yeah, to make it seven nothing.
Then when it was fourteen nothing, I knew that was
really it. Because the Jets offense just stinks. Facing insurmountable odds,
I'm gonna sit here in wordsmith you and give you
all kinds of five dollar words and all kinds of stuff.
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And I'm gonna tell you right here, the Jets offense
stinks and they're getting right now. It's it's kind of weird.
I feel like, now you're getting what you deserve. Like
every time the Jets start thinking, and I don't know
why but they do, but they start thinking, hey, oh,
our offense is starting to We're getting signs here. Maybe
the offense is breaking out a little bit. We're getting
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a little bit better, a little bit better. They still stink.
They stunk last week against the Giants, they absolutely stunk,
and tonight they stunk even worse. They didn't go out
and getting by the trade deadline when they had to,
But they were lulled into thinking, oh, we're getting better.
Zack Wilson is terrible. He is awful. Your wide receivers
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outside of seventeen stink. Nobody can get any separation. The
offensive line is injured, and I like Robert Sala saying, well,
you know, no one's trade an offensive line to the deadline. Hey,
I saw the Jaguars get an offensive lineman at the
deadline for a six round pick. The Jets offense stinks,
and they still think that, oh no, no, everything we
have is good and we can still maybe do things,
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and no getting better little by the The only thing
that's gonna get better is when eight comes back and
I see him throwing fifty yard pass the night before
the game, better than any passed Zach Wilson through tonight.
Wilson was awfully held out of the football too long.
He wasn't accurate with it, he missed his receivers, and
everything else with the offense is bad. And they thought that, whoa,
but everything.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Don't worry. It's just a long season. We're still staying
in it, right low. You won one of the worst
football games in the history of the NFL last weekgainst
the Giants. It was an absolute miracle. And what happened, No,
we weren't aggressed with the deadline, Go get anybody, and
now we are paying for it, and they're gonna pay
for it the rest of the season because they still think, Hey,
our guys, we believe in our guys. You brought in
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a bunch of wide receivers because Rogers wanted them, and
they're washed. They're all washed. Unless they're throwing a Garrett Wilson,
who I can't believe the guy is actually open sometimes
because he's the only guy whould put somebody on. And
Brice Hall, hey, as well as he runs a football,
you gotta be able to do other things. And the
offensive line is hurt and Zach Wilson stinks, and they
keep running the same game plan where every pass Zach
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Wilson throws is five yards or shorter from the line
of scrimmage. You're not gonna win that way. This is
Jets football. And they still think that they're Oh, it's coming,
It's not coming. This is what we're gonna see. This
is what we're gonna see for the rest of the
season until eight comes back. It's going to be this bad.
This Charger secondary is one of the worst secondaries in
the NFL, and still they can't put more than six
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points on the board. The Jets offense is terrible, and
they knew it, and they still decided, well, let's stick
with what we have. And I I don't understand on
what planet that is. And now I got veins popping
out of my head. Yeah, this last play a pass
attempt down to Garrett Wilson in live action. You just
saw a lot of Chargers defenders swirling around him. You know,
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it was like one of those Hey we dipped a
couple of drops of blood into a Piranha tank and
then watch the feeding frenzy. And soon because that was it,
everybody wanted to go and be on the jacked up
segment as it were. Now, here's the thing with your
jets opportunity knocked? How did on the door say with
the win tonight, Sorry, I can't the door. I got
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a lot of locks on these doors. I get and
it's kind of gender, but I'm trying to open I
don't know that I can open the door. No, the
more appropriate response was what a New Yorker would say,
beat it. I don't watch your opportunity. Dolphins get beaten
by the Chiefs in Germany, getting really good rant of
that yesterday morning, so you can find the podcast on that.
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But you had the opportunity half game behind the Dolphins.
Here you come and then you go out and you
got your ass with at home on a Monday night,
where the Chargers have to fly three thousand miles to
play this game and they look like a playoff game
to start, they're feeding frenzy of that crowd, like the
crowd noise was amazing. Crowd noise is great, is great,
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And then the Jets offense gets on the field and
you see how bad it is yea. And you can't
win when you have all the penalties you had tonight
as well, every time the Jets games there are penalties.
Garrett Wilson had penalties that that penalty was the dumbest,
about as dumb as it gets, but the penalty. But
but what hurt them the most, and again this is
this is where now it's Robert, We get on Robert
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solid because it's Robert Solad's fault is the Jets play
too undisciplined. They play on discipline because they get called
for bad penalties that they don't need to be called for. Right,
It's not like, hey, we're a penalized team because we're aggressive,
and this is just what happens. They get called for
penalties that are how do you get called for a fall?
Start here on first time? How do you get called
for how do you how do you get called for
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a penalty when you're blocking in the back when the
guy's already run by? Well, but that but that's the
penalty that that shows, right because you tweeted about it.
We talked about it here. Uh more, you ranted and
I tried to give you, you know, be your emotional rescue.
You will be mine, You will be mine, oh mine.
But I have your night in shining armor where you
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where you have the jawing sequence of Wilson with a
Sante Samuel Junior and then a Sante Samuel Junior has
the angle where he's gonna be able to make a
tackle and Wilson needlessly no, there's nothing he can do. Yeah,
just pushes him. Two hand tap. Wasn't even a really
good shove. Look, if you're gonna go in and get
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the penalty, I mean, come on, let's get some muscle
into that. But I'll tell you and and to finish
up the undisciplined part, because that's really what it is
with the offense sinks and they're on disciplined and this
is on Robert Solid. And this is why I go
from boy, hey, they play hard for Robert Solid. He's
got a great defensive system in there. Offensively, the team
is lost without Aaron Rodgers. The team is absolutely lost,
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and there's nobody that's like a bunch of kids playing
dress up trying to get the offense going. But that
the play. That was the game when the Jets had
some life and they're down seventeen to six. Okay, it's
seventeen six. Early in the fourth quarter, justin Herbert gets crunched,
he fumbles the football. Michael Clemens could have fallen on
the football because there's a lot of traffic. Yeah, right,
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So when there's a lot of traffic, you fall in
the football, and you're a big guy, you're not getting
out of there. And hey, big guys falling that. My
rule is always big guys fallowing the football, right, big
guys fall of the football. I mean, I like a
fat guy touchdown as much as anybody. Yeah, but it's
got it. But you don't scoop and score unless there's
an open field and you can make the play without
having to worry. Because if you can't scoop and score
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at least okay, I tried to scoop, but I can follow.
This was also scoop and score. Of the balls laying
on the ground, this isn't rolling.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Up.
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He tries to pick it up off the ground. He
doesn't get it, so justin Herbert's is able to pull
his arm out and pull the football back in. So
instead of first down and ten from the Chargers, twelve,
the Chargers keep the football and guess what they get
a first down, They drive down the field, they kick
a field goal that basically ends the game at twenty
to six. This is how maddening it is to be
a Jets fan. And I'll tell you for all of
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the good feelings that I want to have because being
four and four, if you told me before the season, hey,
had you feel about four and four? Okay? Because I
do feel good at four and four. It's a tough
schedule the first half of the season. It lightens up
a little bit here. This should have been a win.
It should have been a win, honestly, but it wasn't.
But four and four, okay. But to see the fact
that they still play so undisciplined with penalties and trying
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to make stupid plays like that, and the fact that
they refuse to fix the offense because they think, no,
we have what we need and you don't. You don't.
I don't know anybody that thinks you. The rest of
the league and right now is saying, oh, thank goodness,
the Jets don't know what they're doing. Because if they
went out and actually got offensive players that could help them,
watch out, man, they'd be just killing everybody because the
defense is fantastic. You know what else they should have done.
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They should have gone out and gotten Josh Dobbs. Anyway,
three of fifteen third down efficiency for the Jets two
hundred and twenty five total yards to one hundred and
ninety one for the Chargers. Jets with eight penalties for
forty yards. And so the tail of the tape you
have more first downs, but the third down efficiency penalties.
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And then look defense and special teams. We've watched the
pass rushers just get after. You got three different players
with multiple sacks for the Chargers in this game. Wilson
at times gets the ball out quickly, and at other
times he looks like he's has no idea what he's
seeing in front of him, like he's going back to
the Sam Darnold icy ghosts kind of game that we
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had in the past. So that's what I would say,
to go to the Chargers just for a minute. Here,
We'll live in the misery of the Jets for a moment.
Chargers offense, and he had a couple of big runs
a couple of sequences. That catch by Keenan Allen is
about half of Justin Herbert's passing yards for the game,
but look succeed in proceed. Man, you're in the mid
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point of the season, and for Brandon Staley, you want
to talk about a game that he was gonna get
left on the tarmac if they lost this game, he
out coached Roberts. Just think, right when you're out coached
by by Brandon Staley, that's almost as bad as getting
out coached by Josh McDaniels. I think he was helped
by the fact that he had three pass rushers, all
of whom are infinitely better than any offensive lineman, and
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Joey Bosa kind of started the game going which one,
which one will it be? He saw the fear in
the rook size and he abused him the entire night. Look,
this game was the punt return for a touchdown and
then after the fumble at midfield, the Chargers get a
short field and they go fifty yards for a touchdown.
That's the game. That's it. Because the Jets offense is
that bad and that's what it just I shake my
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head and I go these are professional people that that
run football organizations. And I don't know how you can
sit now. You can tell me you're not in the building.
You're not in the building. I watch because every Sunday
at one and four o'clock, or Sunday night at eight o'clock,
or Monday night at five Sunday night against the Raiders
this week, twenty every Now, that's where you prove it.
That's where you prove it. I see all of these games.
I see all I see everything that happens. I see
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everything that goes on, and you can't tell me that
it's enough. Well, this is what goes on. I don't
care what goes on behind. Look to running now, Yeah
that's great. Yeah they're down by twenty one. Now they
can move the ball down the field. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter,
it doesn't matter. I don't know how you could sit
back and say, yes, we're okay with what we have.
It's trash, it's it's you. And I know that Rogers
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is coming back at some point, but what if he doesn't,
you know, you know what if he doesn't come back,
what what what if it's not something? What if by
the time you get to Rogers coming back out of
the playoff race, is he really going to come back then?
I mean, you gotta win games for him to come back.
You can't. You can't put a crap like this every week,
because this is absolute crap. Monday night football at home,
you're feeling good, you won three in a row, and
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you are out of this game in the second quarter.
See it now, you got the feel good Raiders on
Sunday Night football after this, no man, And and just
I mean they're dancing, they're smoking cigars. Oh, they're singing
ding dong. The witch is dead. I mean, they got
all of it going on. This, You know, watching this
is just it's it's painful. It's well, he had a
couple of drives that started and it's like, all right,
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when not if, when are they gonna shoot themselves in
their respective feet? And you watch Zach Wilson take a
couple of unfathomable sacks like that one drive that you
yelled at me at the start of last hour, right
like they're moving the ball well, and then what did
he do? He had one of those terrible sacks, and
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then he had a couple circumstances whereby he did the
old video game thing of I'm gonna run thirty yards
this way because then I wing it and it's like
a frozen rope, you know that glitch in the only
football games. And he tries that, except he takes the
sack instead of whipping the ball down field. The Jets
just dropped the touchdown pass in the end zone. Cj
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Uzoma is wide open. He tried to kick it up
to him. It hits him. He's wide open, it hits
him in the chest. He drops it. You know what
it looked like. It looks like the Jackie Smith play
from the Steelers Cowboys Super when Jackie Smith drops that
easy pass in the end zone. That's what it looked like.
So the Jets couldn't even get an easy touchdown there
with forty seconds left to go. I mean, I mean,
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I wish I was a consultant because I would walk
into I would walk into floor and park and I
walk into Jet one Jets Drive, and I would say,
you guys, you know this is not good enough, right.
I think maybe you're too close to it. You know
you're not good enough. You know you could have gone
out as you said and gotten Josh Dobbs, who's a
better quarterback. You could have got out and gotten Josh
Dobbs the deadline bills. You could have got out and
gotten it. You could have gotten a lot of guys
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who might have been better taking Josh Dobbs won a
bleep in game with zero practice time. He was practicing
this cadence with his offensive lineman. Here's what my voice sounds.
Zach Wilson's practiced every day all season. Josh had zero
prax and he looked better on Sunday than Zack Wilson
looked tonight. I mean, I don't know why the Jets
have this. We have to make Zach Wilson work. You
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went out and replaced him, You went out and replaced
him with Aaron Rodgers. Why you still think he's gonna
be good? You still think the guy's gonna be good.
Describe the last two plays. Go on, go ahead, go ahead,
the Jets facing a fourth and goal. No, no, go back
to third down. I don't want to go back. Now
you get hit rewind, I don't want to go back
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to third down. Instead of trying to push the ball
to the Zach Wilson is scrambling on third down he
could have gotten closer to the end zone, but he
runs out of bounds of the five. Okay, Faced with
fourth and goal, Zack Wilson throws the football two yards
short of the end zone. The Jets make the catch, However,
tackled short of the goal line, they can't even get
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a gimmey touchdown that the Chargers are okay handing to
them because it's a twenty one point lead. The Jets
can't even get a gimmey touchdown and they're losing this game.
And then now the kneel down is happening, and the
Chargers are winning this twenty seven to six, and the
Jets just look like a joke. I really just thought
I looked like a Jet, and I look. I don't
know that I've been more wrong in a game. And
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I tell you what, you know, I always make the
full run of picks against the spread for the for
the week in the in the in the Yahoo group,
and I went nine to zero in the morning, and
then I only won one game after that. I don't know,
I evidently have got I'm really dialed in in the
one o'clock, But this one, I thought your Jets would
be fired up that you'd be able to take advantage
a little bit, get the ball out quickly against this
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Chargers secondary, and the defense would do its job. Well,
you didn't get any of those turnovers, the bounces didn't
go your way, a couple of tip balls that just
fell harmlessly to the ground, and now you got an
absolute beat down as this goes final. I know, buddy,
I hate football, I do. I hate football, but Syracuse
basketball started today. Syracuse won the Knicks one. Okay, I
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didn't get Craig counsel and the Jets lost. I'm a
zero someday at best, Well, is it better beating James Harden? No? No,
in order? The best things of my day? Yeah, oh,
let's say sandwich sandwich, okay, the best sports things, best
sports okay, uh okay, the Nick's beating Harden. Yeah, Syracuse winning, Okay,
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but that's close because I wanted to win the first
game of the agent offers. Yeah, okay, No, it's gonna
make then when the third thing is that the Mets
hiring girls Mendoza, and the fourth thing is the Jets.
Yeah okay, okay, yeah, all four of my main things.
I was a stat that said Craig Council would have
been the eleventh I had richest free agent signing in
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White Sox historyn Do you think that makes me feel
when I watch guys do that I got eleven this year.
I have my own sports equinox today, all for my
teams had something crazy happen. Yeah, but you're in good
balance with the force. O man uh exit out bout
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on after Sunday. More on the Jets incredibly bad loss
of the Chargers who now have righted their season at
four and four? Can we believe in the Chargers again?
That's coming up next right here, Jason and Mike. This
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We got more from Monday night football coming up in
a minute. Do we have to. Well, yeah, the Chargers.
One man come and gave them their flowers. Ah, the
Chargers to charge. You know, you ruin the game for me.
You know by doing that, you ruin the game. But
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I don't want I don't want to revisit that. Well,
we'll have more on Monday Night football because they want
it's my fault, yes, because I look to blame somebody,
because like the Jets, I'm not going to look at
the problem and try to solve it. I'm just gonna
try to blame something else and hope that Zach Wilson
gets better. I'm gonna do that and hope the wide
receivers suddenly I don't know, get good and like all
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these guys, That's what I'm gonna do. Ah. So did
we get that on video? We will because I want
that clipped off. That's a gift for the ages there.
You know, you know, I say all the time, I
understand how people just say. You know, people who are
big fans of a team their whole life. And you know,
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like if you're in a family reunion or some kind
of function Thanksgiving and you talk to uncle Rich and
Uncle Rich oh man, right, Uncle Rich, Hey, Hey, you know, hey, Jason,
your uncle Rich is coming from Thanksgiving. You know he's
a huge Jets fan like you. Oh yeah, yeah, you
cant to talk to Uncle Rich. Oh I haven't seen
Uncle Rich in a long time. Yeah, well he only
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comes around on Thanksgiving for reasons. He borrows a lot
of money from us, and that's not great, but hey,
you'll get to see Uncle richill everybody's And then Uncle
Rich shows up and I'm like, hey, Uncle Rich, the
Jets and and look at this, and he says, oh, yeah, yeah,
they're doing well. Yeah, no, I haven't watched them a
long time. But what what do you mean? Mom said
you are a big Jets fan? So yeah, no I was.
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I just don't. And I would say how could you
be a big fan of something? And then just not.
And then I watched the Jets and I say to myself, Yeah,
at some point I'm just gonna say I'm done. Yeah,
but see I'm not. I still do the fandom. I'm done.
I do the fandom in in the hours. And then certainly,
if we start talking about different components of failure and
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suckage for the Bears, then yeah, I get down that
path again. But in general, I watched again, like yesterday,
great first half, started out great against the Saints, and
for no hope this year, when you have no hope,
it's fine. It's easy to Hey, my team sucks. I
got no hope, buddy. That's every year. You're looking at
drafting one two this year. Now, we're not gonna catch
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the Cardinals. Actually no, they're gonna play Kyler Murray. I
don't know about that. Look out, look out, Hey, you
could draft one to this. I still think he's in
bubble wrap, but I still don't think he sees the field.
You know, it's easy when you have no no But
that's every year, and I got that. I got a glimpse.
Last week was the glimpse, and then they lost that game,
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and then this game against the Saints. Saints. Saints are great,
any great shakes, offensive lines been sketchy, and then Bigen
has a couple of great throws early. They moved the
ball early. But you have no hope. No, you have
no idea. Even if you won, you still have no hoe.
But the point just being that even if it just
goes horribly wrong in that game, no hoop, I move on.
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But you know, if you were good if you, because
that's that's the real You're not good. No, No, don't
you know, I don't know, you know, you just you know,
you just projected that.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
No, no, no, if you were doing so, you were
trying to say, like they were pretty good. Sudden we
had a chance, you know, Sach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
This is the curse of the Jets, which is also
the curse of the Chargers, which is exactly why it
was great they played tonight. You have the Jets jetting,
you have the Chargers chargers. The Chargers do this every
year and then they have a final exactly. I don't
know how tremendous it is, but sometimes they have a run. Well,
uh you know what I mean. This is the worst
part is that if my team just stunk all the time, Okay,
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I could watch the games and I could just be
okay that they're there are a group of people who
are together, and I can read about the good things
they do off the field, and I could say, Hey,
I root for these guys. Look, they're fun, they have
fun with each other, and I like they all wear
the same uniforms and I can wear the same hats
that they wear, and I can just enjoy that they were.
It's like the version of the Jets at now. It's
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like liking a band. Hey, they make good music, and
I could listen to the music anytime I want to.
I can wear the band's T shirt or hoodie and
I feel, hey, it's great. Right if my team had
no hope, that's the kind of fan I can be. Hey,
I get to watch them do a fun thing together
seventeen times a year. Yeah, but I have watched you
they've been for a decade. I've watched you live and
die with the team that we knew what every year.
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And this is the issue with yourself. No, no, it's not, no, no,
it's not my fault is because the Jets and the
Chargers come into every year, no matter what, with a
little bit of Hey, if things go right, we got hope.
Sometimes I don't want hope, like you say, hope is
a dangerous thing.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It is.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But every year for the Jets and Charges all this
could be that year where something special and magical happens.
And every year nothing special nor magical happens. Right, and
yet but every year come back, Oh we got Oh
we got a little bit of hope this year, Oh
we got home we got Aaron Rodgers, we got oh,
we got and every year there's hope of some kind,
hope that either we have a new quarterback in Zach Wilson,
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or hope in the next year that well, maybe the
rookie quarterback takes a step up. Okay, no, now hope
that Zach, that Zack Wilson can be replaced by Aaron Rodgers. No,
and hope, hope, hope, And every year you go in
and say, maybe this is it, and you get your
hopes up and something like this happens. That's why I mean.
If my team was just anonymous and bad every single year, Okay,
if my team was the Arizona Cardinals, yeah all right, great,
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Yeah I could. I could wear that big angry Cardinal
hoodie where the face on it is really angry. Oh
that's awesome. I could do that. I could be that.
But I think writing history in your mind, we've said
the Jets have sucked almost every year we've been on
air together. But they always start out. They always start
with that. You always start out with you, yourself and
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hope just because you want to be Fireman D and
certain team thrown him and steal his damn hat certain
teams start out with hope. Right, It's different New York
and Chicago. Your team. My teams are, hey, we got hope.
They stink and then we get mad. Your team is,
maybe we have hope, but it doesn't matter. I'm mad
to start this the white man in the middle of
the I at they I'm just the angry Chicago. Hey,
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the Bears can win the Super No they stick. I'm
old version Richie. Still they have the best player at
every position in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
No, the Bears still stak. They're still gonna lose a
nice steak. They won last night forty nine three. Did
you see that field goal drive they let up at
the end? Was well, then look at the eighty five Bears.
They lost Monday night football to the damn Dolphins and
Dan Marino after filming the Super Bowl show.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Well that was that? That that well, that was it
was a good law. That was clearly your year of
your deal with the devil. That was what do men?
Wilber Marshall and Buddy Ryan. We going to fight each other.
We always start with hope. The Bears of fans always had.
They're mad already when the they're mad the seasons. But here.
I like the offseason, we weren't playing. At least there's
a lot of hope. There was a lot of speculations
(25:43):
what might happen? Sucks? This sucks. I want to read
about Craig Counsel. No, there was there was, not all
Bears fans, but there was hope coming into the year, right.
DJ Moore shows up hope for the continued growth of
Cole Comet run back situation. Bring in Johnson along with
Herbert Deontae Foreman ended up being a nice little addition
(26:06):
when Herbert got hurt. Now Herbert's back of practice. But
it's a little too late, a little too gone, and
now you're vuying for well two top slots. Now you
gotta be careful and you gotta favor this week because
Green Bay won that game. So there's a little bit
of distance and separation now because I still saw the
nightmare scenario of Week eighteen being yeah, we beat them,
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and now they jump you from one of these those
draft choices. But yeah, hope is a dangerous thing. I've
had it oftentimes with the white Sox on paper and
then only to watch it fall apart time and again. Bears.
Usually I don't get sucked in fully because I know
the management, I know the coaches, I know what they've built.
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And there's even two weeks ago, right before they played
the Chargers. Ah, maybe a little bit of hope, maybe
a little bit of chaos against that secondary that you
could do something. Nope, they went and got curbs stomped
from Billard to Hoast and then your jets were next
up on the menu and had the same cold dish served.
Opportunity knocked and you said, beat it. Hey, revenge is
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a dish best There was no revenge dish being served.
It was just a bad dish. Revenge is always a
dish best served cold. Jesse the body Ventura taught me
that about twenty five, when in this particular case, it
was just cold. This is just a bad dish. It's
this is like here, This is like in movies when
people gets kept captive and they just shove like gruel
and stuff. Or maybe maybe you're part of the dessert.
(27:35):
You know, you're a human s'more. Don't ruin any movies
for anybody that are on every five minutes. Don't ruin
that movie. I haven't seen that movie. I saw an
art piece of that today. I was like, I almost
want to buy it. Whoa whoa? Like like a performance
art piece or no, no, no, just like a drawing
at one of the gatherleries that I buy some pop
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art every once in a while from night. Very good? Yeah, Twitter,
how about a frust can Mike get swollen dome? I mean,
I understand why people say I don't watch my team.
I haven't watched them in a while, because why am
I going to go through the aggravation? But you know what,
you know what the most important thing of this game
is Keenan Allen got to ten thousand yards for his
congratulation and Steve Desager, who carries a three foot notebook
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bound with wire and twine with Keenan Allen's stats for days,
He's got another couple of pages out of this. See well,
he used to carry the Keenan Allen fathead around with
him and put him up on walls behind him wherever
he sat, where here it is.
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curse uh. Biggest win for James Madison upsetting number four
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Michigan State since he convinced Thomas Jefferson to get Hamilton's
help to win the election of eighteen hundred. Bigger win
for James Madison tonight or getting Jefferson at by saying, hey, man,
you need Hamilton's help. Well, since that helped propel the
story of the lin Manuel Miranda Musical and Empire, many
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more hundreds of millions of dollars into the United States
and global economy based on James Madison there, Okay, all right,
I'll take that. This is a good short term jump.
And hey, and it's a lot money down the road
winning a game like that. And it's not gonna be
hundreds of millions winning a game like this. I mean,
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other than vexing Magic Johnson, has he tweeted yet? Because
he's he's been taking credit for everything else. I don't
go to where this one. I think Magic's got to
put put the phone down and not tweet after this one,
because I mean he's been quick to Hey, the Commander's won. Hey,
my soccer team won. Hey, I gotta find somebody who
won something because all my teams think, welcome to my world.
(30:57):
Uh No, But first of all, the election of eighteen hundred.
My favorite song from Hamilton is that that or Helpless.
I love Helpless, and I look there's so many songs
like but Helpless Election of eight well in the rap battles,
but the two of my two favorite songs Helpless Election
of eighteen Hunty, Yeah, I'm all about King George circumstance.
Everything else slows down and one man stands tall. So
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why are we talking about James Madison Michigan State. Yes,
you heard that correctly, James Madison, who did win twenty
two games last year and did help Jefferson get the
election because you know, Hamilton came out in favor of Jefferson.
He disagrees, he disagrees with Hamilton, disagrees with Jefferson, but
you know Jefferson has thoughts and Burrhead none. H James
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Madison taking on number four Michigan State. Michigan State, who
they have national champions beliefs, or at least they did
have beliefs. Did Tom Izzo come out dressed like Gene
Simmons tonight? Now they think World Tours over or what?
And tj clearly Michigan State put the L in loss tonight. Uh,
(32:06):
let's put the ellen. How did they go down for
James Madison pulling out already one night, opening night of
college basketball and maybe we just saw the upset of
the year bigger.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Staff gonna set a screen eight seconds on the shot
clock near side left. Mike Green getna go one to one,
kicks it right side.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Ray Kwan Horton for three.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yes, Sir, Ray Kuan Horton buries the three with eight
point six seconds left.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Here's the inbound for Walker. He comes near the timeline
now about thirty feet.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Both stolen away and knocked away from behind. Stolen away
and James Madison shocks the college basketball world on opening nights.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Is they defeat the fourth rait Michigan State Spartans seventy nine,
seventy six.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
No, Madison, you met as it had to, taking medicine.
It would have been a bigger shock if the Jets
had lost in the way they did. I think we're
the was just taken by storm with that one. Apparently,
if you wore Green tonight, tonight was not your night. No,
it's not good for anybody. No, but look, opening night
in college basketball, we already saw this big upset with
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me and Bickerstaff actually nephew of JB. Bickerstey. That's good.
I mean I saw LSU get drunk hounded by Colorado.
That game wasn't even close and just really quick because
it was something because it's the something we've seen for
the first time in a college basketball season since the
mid nineteen seventies. Not that it's my school, but Jim Beheim,
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this is the first Syracuse game of my life that
Jim picks. It's It was weird seeing Adrian Autrey, even
though I watched I watched some of the exhibition games
the last couple of nights, but obviously tonight's the game
that counts. It's the first one in the standings. It's
weird seeing him, but I gotta say I was full
of positive energy. I didn't know how would I really
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feel not seeing Bahim out there, seeing him there for
so long, everything else. But no, as I told you
a couple of weeks and we talked about change coming,
I realized this is a change that kind of had
to happen, and it happened really awkwardly at the end
of the year. And Bayheim's responsible for not, you know,
for getting pushed out as fast as he did. But yeah,
maybe you do need to usher in a new era,
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and maybe the game has passed him by and you
need because what was going on wasn't working and for
Syracuse eating a fresh start. They're playing different defense. Now
they're gonna play more man to man. They played more
man to man tonight. They have recruits. They're still getting
great recruits because Autrey was the big recruiter and Jerry McNamara,
and so they went tonight over New Hampshire. It wasn't perfect,
but it was weird, but it was exciting at the
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same time. And I wish I had more time to
digest it, but you know, jets so, but it was
still exciting to see, you know, for the first time
Bayheim's not on the sideline for a game. Was it
was really really odd, even though I knew it was coming,
it was still weird. But it's the same thing as
you and I. I mean, back in the day, nobody
job hopped, nobody was bouncing around. You were a lifer.
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You were a coach at the same place for thirty
five years. When Purdue came to town, Geene Katie, and
he was nice as could be except when he wasn't.
And in that hair and the plaid coat was always
on the sideline. You could bank on that you had
football wise, it was Joe Paterno until it wasn't. And
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Bobby Knight at Indiana until it wasn't. Now Jim Beaheim,
all these years later that finally flips. It's weird. It's
because it's it's just that, the end of an era
but also generational kind of thing. So yeah, a shocker
for you man. Thats suck. Yeah yeah, actually out about
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Make it twenty seven to six, charges with the lead
over the Jets. I hate football. Uh. The Jets get
the ball back twenty to six. They trail and Zach
Wilson gets the ball knocked out of his hands. It's
picked up, it's a fumble. It's returned all the way
to the Jets one yard line touchdown run of the
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next play by Eckler make it twenty seven to six,
Chargers lead the Jets. Now we're closing it on two
minutes and Zach Wilson still clapping his hands in the
side and going, come on, guys, let's go. Now slid
out at the two, I would have had the most
improbable comeback in a Fantasy league ever because the Chargers
would have gone over thirty points the night. Insteadies slides
(01:37):
out at the two is foot just over the chuck
and the pebbles, all game up and then you get
the punch in. But this is like the Ravens game yesterday.
Folks that didn't watch it, you see the final score,
going my quarterback kicked ass. Yeah, yeah, no, my quarterback
didn't do it anything, threw fo one hundred yards. Oh
yeah no. Look, there's part of me that says, now, okay,
(02:01):
there's part of me. There's part of me that said,
you know, when they returned that punch for a touchdown,
that was probably the game. Yeah, to make it seven nothing.
Then when it was fourteen nothing, I knew that was
really it. Because the Jets offense just stinks. Facing insurmountable odds,
I'm gonna sit here in wordsmith you and give you
all kinds of five dollar words and all kinds of stuff.
(02:24):
And I'm gonna tell you right here, the Jets offense
stinks and they're getting right now. It's it's kind of weird.
I feel like, now you're getting what you deserve. Like
every time the Jets start thinking, and I don't know
why but they do, but they start thinking, hey, oh,
our offense is starting to We're getting signs here. Maybe
the offense is breaking out a little bit. We're getting
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a little bit better, a little bit better. They still stink.
They stunk last week against the Giants, they absolutely stunk,
and tonight they stunk even worse. They didn't go out
and getting by the trade deadline when they had to,
But they were lulled into thinking, oh, we're getting better.
Zack Wilson is terrible. He is awful. Your wide receivers
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outside of seventeen stink. Nobody can get any separation. The
offensive line is injured, and I like Robert Sala saying, well,
you know, no one's trade an offensive line to the deadline. Hey,
I saw the Jaguars get an offensive lineman at the
deadline for a six round pick. The Jets offense stinks,
and they still think that, oh no, no, everything we
have is good and we can still maybe do things,
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and no getting better little by the The only thing
that's gonna get better is when eight comes back and
I see him throwing fifty yard pass the night before
the game, better than any passed Zach Wilson through tonight.
Wilson was awfully held out of the football too long.
He wasn't accurate with it, he missed his receivers, and
everything else with the offense is bad. And they thought that, whoa,
but everything.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Don't worry. It's just a long season. We're still staying
in it, right low. You won one of the worst
football games in the history of the NFL last weekgainst
the Giants. It was an absolute miracle. And what happened, No,
we weren't aggressed with the deadline, Go get anybody, and
now we are paying for it, and they're gonna pay
for it the rest of the season because they still think, Hey,
our guys, we believe in our guys. You brought in
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a bunch of wide receivers because Rogers wanted them, and
they're washed. They're all washed. Unless they're throwing a Garrett Wilson,
who I can't believe the guy is actually open sometimes
because he's the only guy whould put somebody on. And
Brice Hall, hey, as well as he runs a football,
you gotta be able to do other things. And the
offensive line is hurt and Zach Wilson stinks, and they
keep running the same game plan where every pass Zach
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Wilson throws is five yards or shorter from the line
of scrimmage. You're not gonna win that way. This is
Jets football. And they still think that they're Oh, it's coming,
It's not coming. This is what we're gonna see. This
is what we're gonna see for the rest of the
season until eight comes back. It's going to be this bad.
This Charger secondary is one of the worst secondaries in
the NFL, and still they can't put more than six
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points on the board. The Jets offense is terrible, and
they knew it, and they still decided, well, let's stick
with what we have. And I I don't understand on
what planet that is. And now I got veins popping
out of my head. Yeah, this last play a pass
attempt down to Garrett Wilson in live action. You just
saw a lot of Chargers defenders swirling around him. You know,
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it was like one of those Hey we dipped a
couple of drops of blood into a Piranha tank and
then watch the feeding frenzy. And soon because that was it,
everybody wanted to go and be on the jacked up
segment as it were. Now, here's the thing with your
jets opportunity knocked? How did on the door say with
the win tonight, Sorry, I can't the door. I got
(05:36):
a lot of locks on these doors. I get and
it's kind of gender, but I'm trying to open I
don't know that I can open the door. No, the
more appropriate response was what a New Yorker would say,
beat it. I don't watch your opportunity. Dolphins get beaten
by the Chiefs in Germany, getting really good rant of
that yesterday morning, so you can find the podcast on that.
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But you had the opportunity half game behind the Dolphins.
Here you come and then you go out and you
got your ass with at home on a Monday night,
where the Chargers have to fly three thousand miles to
play this game and they look like a playoff game
to start, they're feeding frenzy of that crowd, like the
crowd noise was amazing. Crowd noise is great, is great,
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And then the Jets offense gets on the field and
you see how bad it is yea. And you can't
win when you have all the penalties you had tonight
as well, every time the Jets games there are penalties.
Garrett Wilson had penalties that that penalty was the dumbest,
about as dumb as it gets, but the penalty. But
but what hurt them the most, and again this is
this is where now it's Robert, We get on Robert
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solid because it's Robert Solad's fault is the Jets play
too undisciplined. They play on discipline because they get called
for bad penalties that they don't need to be called for. Right,
It's not like, hey, we're a penalized team because we're aggressive,
and this is just what happens. They get called for
penalties that are how do you get called for a fall?
Start here on first time? How do you get called
for how do you how do you get called for
(07:02):
a penalty when you're blocking in the back when the
guy's already run by? Well, but that but that's the
penalty that that shows, right because you tweeted about it.
We talked about it here. Uh more, you ranted and
I tried to give you, you know, be your emotional rescue.
You will be mine, You will be mine, oh mine.
But I have your night in shining armor where you
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where you have the jawing sequence of Wilson with a
Sante Samuel Junior and then a Sante Samuel Junior has
the angle where he's gonna be able to make a
tackle and Wilson needlessly no, there's nothing he can do. Yeah,
just pushes him. Two hand tap. Wasn't even a really
good shove. Look, if you're gonna go in and get
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the penalty, I mean, come on, let's get some muscle
into that. But I'll tell you and and to finish
up the undisciplined part, because that's really what it is
with the offense sinks and they're on disciplined and this
is on Robert Solid. And this is why I go
from boy, hey, they play hard for Robert Solid. He's
got a great defensive system in there. Offensively, the team
is lost without Aaron Rodgers. The team is absolutely lost,
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and there's nobody that's like a bunch of kids playing
dress up trying to get the offense going. But that
the play. That was the game when the Jets had
some life and they're down seventeen to six. Okay, it's
seventeen six. Early in the fourth quarter, justin Herbert gets crunched,
he fumbles the football. Michael Clemens could have fallen on
the football because there's a lot of traffic. Yeah, right,
(08:28):
So when there's a lot of traffic, you fall in
the football, and you're a big guy, you're not getting
out of there. And hey, big guys falling that. My
rule is always big guys fallowing the football, right, big
guys fall of the football. I mean, I like a
fat guy touchdown as much as anybody. Yeah, but it's
got it. But you don't scoop and score unless there's
an open field and you can make the play without
having to worry. Because if you can't scoop and score
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at least okay, I tried to scoop, but I can follow.
This was also scoop and score. Of the balls laying
on the ground, this isn't rolling.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Up.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
He tries to pick it up off the ground. He
doesn't get it, so justin Herbert's is able to pull
his arm out and pull the football back in. So
instead of first down and ten from the Chargers, twelve,
the Chargers keep the football and guess what they get
a first down, They drive down the field, they kick
a field goal that basically ends the game at twenty
to six. This is how maddening it is to be
a Jets fan. And I'll tell you for all of
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the good feelings that I want to have because being
four and four, if you told me before the season, hey,
had you feel about four and four? Okay? Because I
do feel good at four and four. It's a tough
schedule the first half of the season. It lightens up
a little bit here. This should have been a win.
It should have been a win, honestly, but it wasn't.
But four and four, okay. But to see the fact
that they still play so undisciplined with penalties and trying
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to make stupid plays like that, and the fact that
they refuse to fix the offense because they think, no,
we have what we need and you don't. You don't.
I don't know anybody that thinks you. The rest of
the league and right now is saying, oh, thank goodness,
the Jets don't know what they're doing. Because if they
went out and actually got offensive players that could help them,
watch out, man, they'd be just killing everybody because the
defense is fantastic. You know what else they should have done.
(10:05):
They should have gone out and gotten Josh Dobbs. Anyway,
three of fifteen third down efficiency for the Jets two
hundred and twenty five total yards to one hundred and
ninety one for the Chargers. Jets with eight penalties for
forty yards. And so the tail of the tape you
have more first downs, but the third down efficiency penalties.
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And then look defense and special teams. We've watched the
pass rushers just get after. You got three different players
with multiple sacks for the Chargers in this game. Wilson
at times gets the ball out quickly, and at other
times he looks like he's has no idea what he's
seeing in front of him, like he's going back to
the Sam Darnold icy ghosts kind of game that we
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had in the past. So that's what I would say,
to go to the Chargers just for a minute. Here,
We'll live in the misery of the Jets for a moment.
Chargers offense, and he had a couple of big runs
a couple of sequences. That catch by Keenan Allen is
about half of Justin Herbert's passing yards for the game,
but look succeed in proceed. Man, you're in the mid
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point of the season, and for Brandon Staley, you want
to talk about a game that he was gonna get
left on the tarmac if they lost this game, he
out coached Roberts. Just think, right when you're out coached
by by Brandon Staley, that's almost as bad as getting
out coached by Josh McDaniels. I think he was helped
by the fact that he had three pass rushers, all
of whom are infinitely better than any offensive lineman, and
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Joey Bosa kind of started the game going which one,
which one will it be? He saw the fear in
the rook size and he abused him the entire night. Look,
this game was the punt return for a touchdown and
then after the fumble at midfield, the Chargers get a
short field and they go fifty yards for a touchdown.
That's the game. That's it. Because the Jets offense is
that bad and that's what it just I shake my
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head and I go these are professional people that that
run football organizations. And I don't know how you can
sit now. You can tell me you're not in the building.
You're not in the building. I watch because every Sunday
at one and four o'clock, or Sunday night at eight o'clock,
or Monday night at five Sunday night against the Raiders
this week, twenty every Now, that's where you prove it.
That's where you prove it. I see all of these games.
I see all I see everything that happens. I see
(12:20):
everything that goes on, and you can't tell me that
it's enough. Well, this is what goes on. I don't
care what goes on behind. Look to running now, Yeah
that's great. Yeah they're down by twenty one. Now they
can move the ball down the field. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter,
it doesn't matter. I don't know how you could sit
back and say, yes, we're okay with what we have.
It's trash, it's it's you. And I know that Rogers
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is coming back at some point, but what if he doesn't,
you know, you know what if he doesn't come back,
what what what if it's not something? What if by
the time you get to Rogers coming back out of
the playoff race, is he really going to come back then?
I mean, you gotta win games for him to come back.
You can't. You can't put a crap like this every week,
because this is absolute crap. Monday night football at home,
you're feeling good, you won three in a row, and
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you are out of this game in the second quarter.
See it now, you got the feel good Raiders on
Sunday Night football after this, no man, And and just
I mean they're dancing, they're smoking cigars. Oh, they're singing
ding dong. The witch is dead. I mean, they got
all of it going on. This, You know, watching this
is just it's it's painful. It's well, he had a
couple of drives that started and it's like, all right,
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when not if, when are they gonna shoot themselves in
their respective feet? And you watch Zach Wilson take a
couple of unfathomable sacks like that one drive that you
yelled at me at the start of last hour, right
like they're moving the ball well, and then what did
he do? He had one of those terrible sacks, and
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then he had a couple circumstances whereby he did the
old video game thing of I'm gonna run thirty yards
this way because then I wing it and it's like
a frozen rope, you know that glitch in the only
football games. And he tries that, except he takes the
sack instead of whipping the ball down field. The Jets
just dropped the touchdown pass in the end zone. Cj
(14:03):
Uzoma is wide open. He tried to kick it up
to him. It hits him. He's wide open, it hits
him in the chest. He drops it. You know what
it looked like. It looks like the Jackie Smith play
from the Steelers Cowboys Super when Jackie Smith drops that
easy pass in the end zone. That's what it looked like.
So the Jets couldn't even get an easy touchdown there
with forty seconds left to go. I mean, I mean,
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I wish I was a consultant because I would walk
into I would walk into floor and park and I
walk into Jet one Jets Drive, and I would say,
you guys, you know this is not good enough, right.
I think maybe you're too close to it. You know
you're not good enough. You know you could have gone
out as you said and gotten Josh Dobbs, who's a
better quarterback. You could have got out and gotten Josh
Dobbs the deadline bills. You could have got out and
gotten it. You could have gotten a lot of guys
(14:47):
who might have been better taking Josh Dobbs won a
bleep in game with zero practice time. He was practicing
this cadence with his offensive lineman. Here's what my voice sounds.
Zach Wilson's practiced every day all season. Josh had zero
prax and he looked better on Sunday than Zack Wilson
looked tonight. I mean, I don't know why the Jets
have this. We have to make Zach Wilson work. You
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went out and replaced him, You went out and replaced
him with Aaron Rodgers. Why you still think he's gonna
be good? You still think the guy's gonna be good.
Describe the last two plays. Go on, go ahead, go ahead,
the Jets facing a fourth and goal. No, no, go back
to third down. I don't want to go back. Now
you get hit rewind, I don't want to go back
(15:30):
to third down. Instead of trying to push the ball
to the Zach Wilson is scrambling on third down he
could have gotten closer to the end zone, but he
runs out of bounds of the five. Okay, Faced with
fourth and goal, Zack Wilson throws the football two yards
short of the end zone. The Jets make the catch, However,
tackled short of the goal line, they can't even get
(15:51):
a gimmey touchdown that the Chargers are okay handing to
them because it's a twenty one point lead. The Jets
can't even get a gimmey touchdown and they're losing this game.
And then now the kneel down is happening, and the
Chargers are winning this twenty seven to six, and the
Jets just look like a joke. I really just thought
I looked like a Jet, and I look. I don't
know that I've been more wrong in a game. And
(16:12):
I tell you what, you know, I always make the
full run of picks against the spread for the for
the week in the in the in the Yahoo group,
and I went nine to zero in the morning, and
then I only won one game after that. I don't know,
I evidently have got I'm really dialed in in the
one o'clock, But this one, I thought your Jets would
be fired up that you'd be able to take advantage
a little bit, get the ball out quickly against this
(16:34):
Chargers secondary, and the defense would do its job. Well,
you didn't get any of those turnovers, the bounces didn't
go your way, a couple of tip balls that just
fell harmlessly to the ground, and now you got an
absolute beat down as this goes final. I know, buddy,
I hate football, I do. I hate football, but Syracuse
basketball started today. Syracuse won the Knicks one. Okay, I
(16:55):
didn't get Craig counsel and the Jets lost. I'm a
zero someday at best, Well, is it better beating James Harden? No? No,
in order? The best things of my day? Yeah, oh,
let's say sandwich sandwich, okay, the best sports things, best
sports okay, uh okay, the Nick's beating Harden. Yeah, Syracuse winning, Okay,
(17:17):
but that's close because I wanted to win the first
game of the agent offers. Yeah, okay, No, it's gonna
make then when the third thing is that the Mets
hiring girls Mendoza, and the fourth thing is the Jets.
Yeah okay, okay, yeah, all four of my main things.
I was a stat that said Craig Council would have
been the eleventh I had richest free agent signing in
(17:37):
White Sox historyn Do you think that makes me feel
when I watch guys do that I got eleven this year.
I have my own sports equinox today, all for my
teams had something crazy happen. Yeah, but you're in good
balance with the force. O man uh exit out bout
of Frasca, exit swollen down. The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Carmen live from the tyreq dot com studios. Coming
up next, we got more from the NFL big goings
(17:58):
on after Sunday. More on the Jets incredibly bad loss
of the Chargers who now have righted their season at
four and four? Can we believe in the Chargers again?
That's coming up next right here, Jason and Mike. This
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We got more from Monday night football coming up in
a minute. Do we have to. Well, yeah, the Chargers.
One man come and gave them their flowers. Ah, the
Chargers to charge. You know, you ruin the game for me.
You know by doing that, you ruin the game. But
(18:44):
I don't want I don't want to revisit that. Well,
we'll have more on Monday Night football because they want
it's my fault, yes, because I look to blame somebody,
because like the Jets, I'm not going to look at
the problem and try to solve it. I'm just gonna
try to blame something else and hope that Zach Wilson
gets better. I'm gonna do that and hope the wide
receivers suddenly I don't know, get good and like all
(19:05):
these guys, That's what I'm gonna do. Ah. So did
we get that on video? We will because I want
that clipped off. That's a gift for the ages there.
You know, you know, I say all the time, I
understand how people just say. You know, people who are
big fans of a team their whole life. And you know,
(19:27):
like if you're in a family reunion or some kind
of function Thanksgiving and you talk to uncle Rich and
Uncle Rich oh man, right, Uncle Rich, Hey, Hey, you know, hey, Jason,
your uncle Rich is coming from Thanksgiving. You know he's
a huge Jets fan like you. Oh yeah, yeah, you
cant to talk to Uncle Rich. Oh I haven't seen
Uncle Rich in a long time. Yeah, well he only
(19:49):
comes around on Thanksgiving for reasons. He borrows a lot
of money from us, and that's not great, but hey,
you'll get to see Uncle richill everybody's And then Uncle
Rich shows up and I'm like, hey, Uncle Rich, the
Jets and and look at this, and he says, oh, yeah, yeah,
they're doing well. Yeah, no, I haven't watched them a
long time. But what what do you mean? Mom said
you are a big Jets fan? So yeah, no I was.
(20:10):
I just don't. And I would say how could you
be a big fan of something? And then just not.
And then I watched the Jets and I say to myself, Yeah,
at some point I'm just gonna say I'm done. Yeah,
but see I'm not. I still do the fandom. I'm done.
I do the fandom in in the hours. And then certainly,
if we start talking about different components of failure and
(20:31):
suckage for the Bears, then yeah, I get down that
path again. But in general, I watched again, like yesterday,
great first half, started out great against the Saints, and
for no hope this year, when you have no hope,
it's fine. It's easy to Hey, my team sucks. I
got no hope, buddy. That's every year. You're looking at
drafting one two this year. Now, we're not gonna catch
(20:53):
the Cardinals. Actually no, they're gonna play Kyler Murray. I
don't know about that. Look out, look out, Hey, you
could draft one to this. I still think he's in
bubble wrap, but I still don't think he sees the field.
You know, it's easy when you have no no But
that's every year, and I got that. I got a glimpse.
Last week was the glimpse, and then they lost that game,
(21:16):
and then this game against the Saints. Saints. Saints are great,
any great shakes, offensive lines been sketchy, and then Bigen
has a couple of great throws early. They moved the
ball early. But you have no hope. No, you have
no idea. Even if you won, you still have no hoe.
But the point just being that even if it just
goes horribly wrong in that game, no hoop, I move on.
(21:38):
But you know, if you were good if you, because
that's that's the real You're not good. No, No, don't
you know, I don't know, you know, you just you know,
you just projected that.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
No, no, no, if you were doing so, you were
trying to say, like they were pretty good. Sudden we
had a chance, you know, Sach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
This is the curse of the Jets, which is also
the curse of the Chargers, which is exactly why it
was great they played tonight. You have the Jets jetting,
you have the Chargers chargers. The Chargers do this every
year and then they have a final exactly. I don't
know how tremendous it is, but sometimes they have a run. Well,
uh you know what I mean. This is the worst
part is that if my team just stunk all the time, Okay,
(22:24):
I could watch the games and I could just be
okay that they're there are a group of people who
are together, and I can read about the good things
they do off the field, and I could say, Hey,
I root for these guys. Look, they're fun, they have
fun with each other, and I like they all wear
the same uniforms and I can wear the same hats
that they wear, and I can just enjoy that they were.
It's like the version of the Jets at now. It's
(22:47):
like liking a band. Hey, they make good music, and
I could listen to the music anytime I want to.
I can wear the band's T shirt or hoodie and
I feel, hey, it's great. Right if my team had
no hope, that's the kind of fan I can be. Hey,
I get to watch them do a fun thing together
seventeen times a year. Yeah, but I have watched you
they've been for a decade. I've watched you live and
die with the team that we knew what every year.
(23:11):
And this is the issue with yourself. No, no, it's not, no, no,
it's not my fault is because the Jets and the
Chargers come into every year, no matter what, with a
little bit of Hey, if things go right, we got hope.
Sometimes I don't want hope, like you say, hope is
a dangerous thing.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It is.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But every year for the Jets and Charges all this
could be that year where something special and magical happens.
And every year nothing special nor magical happens. Right, and
yet but every year come back, Oh we got Oh
we got a little bit of hope this year, Oh
we got home we got Aaron Rodgers, we got oh,
we got and every year there's hope of some kind,
hope that either we have a new quarterback in Zach Wilson,
(23:51):
or hope in the next year that well, maybe the
rookie quarterback takes a step up. Okay, no, now hope
that Zach, that Zack Wilson can be replaced by Aaron Rodgers. No,
and hope, hope, hope, And every year you go in
and say, maybe this is it, and you get your
hopes up and something like this happens. That's why I mean.
If my team was just anonymous and bad every single year, Okay,
if my team was the Arizona Cardinals, yeah all right, great,
(24:13):
Yeah I could. I could wear that big angry Cardinal
hoodie where the face on it is really angry. Oh
that's awesome. I could do that. I could be that.
But I think writing history in your mind, we've said
the Jets have sucked almost every year we've been on
air together. But they always start out. They always start
with that. You always start out with you, yourself and
(24:35):
hope just because you want to be Fireman D and
certain team thrown him and steal his damn hat certain
teams start out with hope. Right, It's different New York
and Chicago. Your team. My teams are, hey, we got hope.
They stink and then we get mad. Your team is,
maybe we have hope, but it doesn't matter. I'm mad
to start this the white man in the middle of
the I at they I'm just the angry Chicago. Hey,
(24:58):
the Bears can win the Super No they stick. I'm
old version Richie. Still they have the best player at
every position in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
No, the Bears still stak. They're still gonna lose a
nice steak. They won last night forty nine three. Did
you see that field goal drive they let up at
the end? Was well, then look at the eighty five Bears.
They lost Monday night football to the damn Dolphins and
Dan Marino after filming the Super Bowl show.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Well that was that? That that well, that was it
was a good law. That was clearly your year of
your deal with the devil. That was what do men?
Wilber Marshall and Buddy Ryan. We going to fight each other.
We always start with hope. The Bears of fans always had.
They're mad already when the they're mad the seasons. But here.
I like the offseason, we weren't playing. At least there's
a lot of hope. There was a lot of speculations
(25:43):
what might happen? Sucks? This sucks. I want to read
about Craig Counsel. No, there was there was, not all
Bears fans, but there was hope coming into the year, right.
DJ Moore shows up hope for the continued growth of
Cole Comet run back situation. Bring in Johnson along with
Herbert Deontae Foreman ended up being a nice little addition
(26:06):
when Herbert got hurt. Now Herbert's back of practice. But
it's a little too late, a little too gone, and
now you're vuying for well two top slots. Now you
gotta be careful and you gotta favor this week because
Green Bay won that game. So there's a little bit
of distance and separation now because I still saw the
nightmare scenario of Week eighteen being yeah, we beat them,
(26:27):
and now they jump you from one of these those
draft choices. But yeah, hope is a dangerous thing. I've
had it oftentimes with the white Sox on paper and
then only to watch it fall apart time and again. Bears.
Usually I don't get sucked in fully because I know
the management, I know the coaches, I know what they've built.
(26:49):
And there's even two weeks ago, right before they played
the Chargers. Ah, maybe a little bit of hope, maybe
a little bit of chaos against that secondary that you
could do something. Nope, they went and got curbs stomped
from Billard to Hoast and then your jets were next
up on the menu and had the same cold dish served.
Opportunity knocked and you said, beat it. Hey, revenge is
(27:13):
a dish best There was no revenge dish being served.
It was just a bad dish. Revenge is always a
dish best served cold. Jesse the body Ventura taught me
that about twenty five, when in this particular case, it
was just cold. This is just a bad dish. It's
this is like here, This is like in movies when
people gets kept captive and they just shove like gruel
and stuff. Or maybe maybe you're part of the dessert.
(27:35):
You know, you're a human s'more. Don't ruin any movies
for anybody that are on every five minutes. Don't ruin
that movie. I haven't seen that movie. I saw an
art piece of that today. I was like, I almost
want to buy it. Whoa whoa? Like like a performance
art piece or no, no, no, just like a drawing
at one of the gatherleries that I buy some pop
(27:55):
art every once in a while from night. Very good? Yeah, Twitter,
how about a frust can Mike get swollen dome? I mean,
I understand why people say I don't watch my team.
I haven't watched them in a while, because why am
I going to go through the aggravation? But you know what,
you know what the most important thing of this game
is Keenan Allen got to ten thousand yards for his
congratulation and Steve Desager, who carries a three foot notebook
(28:19):
bound with wire and twine with Keenan Allen's stats for days,
He's got another couple of pages out of this. See well,
he used to carry the Keenan Allen fathead around with
him and put him up on walls behind him wherever
he sat, where here it is.
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Every action has its equal op.
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Oh, no, get out, get out, get out out.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I forgot he is missing an action. So now I'm
facing Aaron Burr with his own faction. Oh, James Madison, go,
James Madison, Tonight, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon, Lifthtireck dot Com Studios,
curse uh. Biggest win for James Madison upsetting number four
(29:47):
Michigan State since he convinced Thomas Jefferson to get Hamilton's
help to win the election of eighteen hundred. Bigger win
for James Madison tonight or getting Jefferson at by saying, hey, man,
you need Hamilton's help. Well, since that helped propel the
story of the lin Manuel Miranda Musical and Empire, many
(30:13):
more hundreds of millions of dollars into the United States
and global economy based on James Madison there, Okay, all right,
I'll take that. This is a good short term jump.
And hey, and it's a lot money down the road
winning a game like that. And it's not gonna be
hundreds of millions winning a game like this. I mean,
(30:35):
other than vexing Magic Johnson, has he tweeted yet? Because
he's he's been taking credit for everything else. I don't
go to where this one. I think Magic's got to
put put the phone down and not tweet after this one,
because I mean he's been quick to Hey, the Commander's won. Hey,
my soccer team won. Hey, I gotta find somebody who
won something because all my teams think, welcome to my world.
(30:57):
Uh No, But first of all, the election of eighteen hundred.
My favorite song from Hamilton is that that or Helpless.
I love Helpless, and I look there's so many songs
like but Helpless Election of eight well in the rap battles,
but the two of my two favorite songs Helpless Election
of eighteen Hunty, Yeah, I'm all about King George circumstance.
Everything else slows down and one man stands tall. So
(31:20):
why are we talking about James Madison Michigan State. Yes,
you heard that correctly, James Madison, who did win twenty
two games last year and did help Jefferson get the
election because you know, Hamilton came out in favor of Jefferson.
He disagrees, he disagrees with Hamilton, disagrees with Jefferson, but
you know Jefferson has thoughts and Burrhead none. H James
(31:43):
Madison taking on number four Michigan State. Michigan State, who
they have national champions beliefs, or at least they did
have beliefs. Did Tom Izzo come out dressed like Gene
Simmons tonight? Now they think World Tours over or what?
And tj clearly Michigan State put the L in loss tonight. Uh,
(32:06):
let's put the ellen. How did they go down for
James Madison pulling out already one night, opening night of
college basketball and maybe we just saw the upset of
the year bigger.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Staff gonna set a screen eight seconds on the shot
clock near side left. Mike Green getna go one to one,
kicks it right side.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Ray Kwan Horton for three.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yes, Sir, Ray Kuan Horton buries the three with eight
point six seconds left.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Here's the inbound for Walker. He comes near the timeline
now about thirty feet.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Both stolen away and knocked away from behind. Stolen away
and James Madison shocks the college basketball world on opening nights.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Is they defeat the fourth rait Michigan State Spartans seventy nine,
seventy six.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
No, Madison, you met as it had to, taking medicine.
It would have been a bigger shock if the Jets
had lost in the way they did. I think we're
the was just taken by storm with that one. Apparently,
if you wore Green tonight, tonight was not your night. No,
it's not good for anybody. No, but look, opening night
in college basketball, we already saw this big upset with
(33:12):
me and Bickerstaff actually nephew of JB. Bickerstey. That's good.
I mean I saw LSU get drunk hounded by Colorado.
That game wasn't even close and just really quick because
it was something because it's the something we've seen for
the first time in a college basketball season since the
mid nineteen seventies. Not that it's my school, but Jim Beheim,
(33:33):
this is the first Syracuse game of my life that
Jim picks. It's It was weird seeing Adrian Autrey, even
though I watched I watched some of the exhibition games
the last couple of nights, but obviously tonight's the game
that counts. It's the first one in the standings. It's
weird seeing him, but I gotta say I was full
of positive energy. I didn't know how would I really
(33:54):
feel not seeing Bahim out there, seeing him there for
so long, everything else. But no, as I told you
a couple of weeks and we talked about change coming,
I realized this is a change that kind of had
to happen, and it happened really awkwardly at the end
of the year. And Bayheim's responsible for not, you know,
for getting pushed out as fast as he did. But yeah,
maybe you do need to usher in a new era,
(34:15):
and maybe the game has passed him by and you
need because what was going on wasn't working and for
Syracuse eating a fresh start. They're playing different defense. Now
they're gonna play more man to man. They played more
man to man tonight. They have recruits. They're still getting
great recruits because Autrey was the big recruiter and Jerry McNamara,
and so they went tonight over New Hampshire. It wasn't perfect,
but it was weird, but it was exciting at the
(34:37):
same time. And I wish I had more time to
digest it, but you know, jets so, but it was
still exciting to see, you know, for the first time
Bayheim's not on the sideline for a game. Was it
was really really odd, even though I knew it was coming,
it was still weird. But it's the same thing as
you and I. I mean, back in the day, nobody
job hopped, nobody was bouncing around. You were a lifer.
(35:00):
You were a coach at the same place for thirty
five years. When Purdue came to town, Geene Katie, and
he was nice as could be except when he wasn't.
And in that hair and the plaid coat was always
on the sideline. You could bank on that you had
football wise, it was Joe Paterno until it wasn't. And
(35:20):
Bobby Knight at Indiana until it wasn't. Now Jim Beaheim,
all these years later that finally flips. It's weird. It's
because it's it's just that, the end of an era
but also generational kind of thing. So yeah, a shocker
for you man. Thats suck. Yeah yeah, actually out about
(35:41):
a Fresca exit swallendme. I can't wait to hear what's
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