November 8, 2023 • 40 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon talk about Aaron Rodgers and how his possible return will be in more then a few fortnights.
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it's funny we mentioned moneyball a couple of times last
hour on the show. You have a big moneyball to
get to in a few minutes on the show. On
the twentieth anniversary of Elf.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
How do you think Billy Bean and Buddy would get along?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Ooh, Billy movie movie Billy Bean? Not well, book Billy Bean, Yes,
I get along?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, okay, yeah, they'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, Moneyball would be a different movie if instead of
Jonah Hill he went to get Buddy the Elf to
be his you know, the guy that teach him about Moneyball.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, I mean he had a good arm. He could
have gone gotten out of that staff and been part
of that pitching rotation. They didn't talk about.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Carlos. You've been traded to the Tigers. Oh so wonderful.
You're gonna get to play with tigers and they're gonna roar.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
And they're gonna what do you think about muskrats? He
can have them for dinner, boy, And these little hamburgers
you could eat him, buy the sack. They're delicious.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
But the day.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
After for the Jets loss to the La Chargers has
brought another full slate of craziness and controversy. Now, first
let me just say this, because I know you're wondering.
I'm much better today than I was last night.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
You were not well, lest I was not good, not great, Bob,
I was not great.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
No, there was a there was a moment where it
really started to fall apart. Yeah. No, And psychologically, I
think I think there was a slight break. If we
checked your brain scan when uh my man, what does
he come in at like three point fifty on the
defensive line was trying to squat down and pick up
the ball flat footed instead of diving on it.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Michael Clemens.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, thank you, Michael Clements, thank you, thank you for
thank you for reminding me of that one play that
absolutely killed the Jets.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, no, thank you, but I and.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We could go back and rewind the tape. You looked
like Ralph Wigan would.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Have to have the tape back to me. I know,
don't have to have that happen, okay.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But we can do that. I mean that you want
to talk about a video promo, ty shure.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You guys do video too, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah. If we could do that and cut that with
maybe John Wick, uh, you know, kind of narrating the
demise of Jets fan Jason Smith in studio there in
that Week nine defeat, that would be great.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
So down.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Aaron Rodgers return to the Jets got ramped up following
we played it for you last night when he rand
to Derwin James after the game and Derri jameson when
are you coming back?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And he said, ah, a couple of weeks, A couple
of weeks, A couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, at least he didn't say about the time you
get hurt.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Oh, see, that would have been that's bad karma, man,
that's bad karma. That would have been then that Hey
would have got hurt again.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Why would you, Dewin James can't stay on the field, man,
Why would you do that to him?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh? I just thought it would have been a snappy
comeback from Aaron Rodgers related to it.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But Dorwin, James is kind of being nice to him,
so he.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Was, even though I was really enjoying beating up on
your undersuit. Yeah, what are you coming you'll.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You'll, you'll, You'll have been out for a month. By
the time I'm coming back to Matt, your season will
be over for a while. Man, it's gonna be opposite.
You're gonna be the guy in the T shirt and
shorts and I'm gonna be the guy coming off the field.
So he says, I'm coming back in a couple of weeks. Whoao,
A couple of weeks, A couple of weeks. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And you know, this is.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
What's got me excited a little bit more than a
better mood going okay four and four. The Jets offense
is absolutely terrible. No need to go into that again
after last.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Night the Jets of points.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I know that I said. When I say no need
to go into it means just no need to go
into it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
In case people missed it, we need to specificity the
number of point.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And you know me, I want to get I want
to be positive and maybe last night was the final
wake up call for Zach Wilson and the Jets.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And there's gonna be changed. I can always hope there's
gonna be changed, right, can always? You always?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
The line I sent you from Robert Sala meeting the
media earlier.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you want to bring that to me?
No want you it's your line, gud you bring it ye.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Robert Sala was asked about the fact that you've got
practice squad quarterback Trevor Simeon, so he was on the
Michael k Show. Quote, you got Trevor Simeon in your building,
with an NFL veteran with starting experience, why not give
him a try? Robert Salah His answer, I got you again,
(05:18):
fair question, Like I said, I don't know. I'm gonna
plead the fifth on this one. In terms of just
I kind of explained it respectfully. Obviously they're valid questions
I know, from a passionate fan, from fans who are passionate,
all having the same questions, I respect it greatly, passionate fans,
fans who are passionate.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
In other words, I have no answers, like I said
last night, no answers. And I know it's not Woody
Johnson saying play Zach Wilson because Woody Johnson wants to win.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
It's like, you know, like I said, I could just
hope that this is the last wake up call and
the Jets are going to allow him to throw the
football downfield. They'll do something to get better receives on
the field because the guys out there outside of seventeen
all stink. So I got to hope, right, So want
to be positive and Rogers coming back a couple weeks,
A couple weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, wait, what's a couple of weeks? Is it Thanksgiving?
Is it right after Thanksgiving? When's it going to be?
Who are we to see first, Santa Claus or Aaron Rodgers? Well,
Aaron Rodgers million dollar Aaron Rodgers went on the Pat
McAfee show earlier today, on ESPN, and he explained how
long he thinks it will be until he is back
on the field.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
He came over DApp me up during during the game,
and good to see him after the game. I didn't
realize that was going to get caught there. I mean,
obviously that was said with a little tongue in cheek there.
It'd be nice to be able to be back in
a couple of weeks. That's probably not anywhere near a
realistic timeline, but a couple is, you know, it could
be be a few, could be a lot of it.
(06:45):
It's more of a phrase that didn't have a specific timetable,
but I said, it's smiling joking, you know. He was
talking about how you know he's excited for me to
get back on the field. At some point, I joked
it be a few weeks, but obviously it's going to
be more a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
So a couples to a few three ye a rush
bars four, right, Yeah, I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
It's gonna be it's gonna be a few, it's gonna
be a few, a few fortnights, It'll be a few fortnights.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I just love that he used the word fortnight.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So see I bawling December seventeenth, Hi.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Fortnight for you the fos where Hi right Ton has
quantermack of the New York Jets and two fortnights from
now we need on the battlefield.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, but how do you not just ask him explicitly
when are you gonna be back in a New York groove?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Hmm, I think he answered. I think he answered, dude.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
December seventeen against the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Now, a couple of fortnights is a month, because a
fortnight is two weeks. Because I'm sorry, I got to
explained to millennials and Generation Z what a fortnite is
because they just think it's a video game. No, a
fortnit is a period of two weeks, which is how
in old English times people would use time.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And we need to turn in time.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
We need to survive the next fortnight before we can
attack the enemy under cover of night. The fortnight. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Fortnite.
So it will be a few fortnights. For Aaron Rodgers,
it was well done nights the Fortnight.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
We need costume, We need a costume budget. We need
to work on that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I will support Zach of Wilson until the time in
two fortnights from now where I hither turn a ton,
throw the jets, lineup on the field on top my
mighty steed and Lance.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well, as soon as you get a mighty steed into
the mix, I mean, now you just well, I mean
we were just at Santa Anita. We could have done
this whole bit in front of a paddock.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I didn't know he was gonna say fortnite until today.
I know, you know what.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I saw some practice video from Delmar. You ready to
drive to Delmark to do the bit. Let's let's stick
to the bit. I'll get you one of those big
fluffy collars like Shakespeare was always a picture is wearing,
and we'll go from there.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Call the Mason. Haven't prepared my colors. They are now
green and white as I read died on battle hand. Yeah,
I'm final.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Wait wait, wait, now you're going to hunt on me
to a freedom medieval times and you're the green Knight.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
If we can postpone the attack against the pirates in
a week from now, the one eyed Pirates and my
black and hello, I am able to lead my men
on the field again.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Change my colors to green and white.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
This is really escalating. I like this. This is good.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You could just see Aaron Rodgers as a night. He's
gonna right down the horse cliplop cliplot.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Hey, hey, it's the price is right, He'll commit to
the bit. Are you kidding me? Uh?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Now, the other part of this now, because now, look, Rogers,
I'm gonna say, I'm thinking in a month. I'm thinking
he's back in a month. A couple of weeks is
a little bit too soon. In a month sometime before Christmas,
he will be back sometime in early December. Now, with
this timeline out there, there was a couple of big
conspiracy theories going on on the internet earlier today. I
(09:54):
know somebody's on the Dan LeBatard podcast saying that he
thinks maybe Aaron Rodgers ever tore his achilles, dude, and
that no.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
No, and I.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And all those guys that said it like we had
weeks ago, we were knowing to far nights. Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Now, the here's as far as I'll go, because this
is what I I If you're telling me, boy, this
could really be some kind of insane recovery no one's
ever had. Maybe, And this is this is how far
all go because there's no way he didn't sustain a
serious achilles injury.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
There's no way.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I mean, it would be a conspiracy theory that he
didn't tear his achilles would be just too much, right,
Conspiracy theories work the less people that know about them.
And you're talking about the entire Jets organization.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Rogers, his teammates, they all know. They all like that,
they all know, they're all the doctors are all that.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
There's no way you keep a complete Why would you
why would you make why why would you even try
to hide the fact that it's an achilles Because if
he didn't tear his achilles, great, he's rehabbit, he's coming back.
There's no win. Like, there's no win by saying I
didn't tear my achilles. Now look at me come back there,
because you'd have to have thought about this ahead of time.
Going don't say anything. I'm gonna make it seem like
(11:13):
I'm coming back of an injury, unlike anybody else in
the history of mankind.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, he just might be an evil genius.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
No, look on brand. Oh, it's completely on brand.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Roger is the one guy that I would say, Hey,
who's going to pretend they're coming back from a torn achilles.
It didn't really happen, that's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I have no doubt he sustained a big injury just
from a if it was legitimately a terror. I think
as a society that breaks down film and with all
the pickleball injuries and insurance claims that are that are
rolling up about Achilles and everything else popping across this nation,
I think we need a full on documentary. Forget about
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the dolphins, give me that for hard knocks man, the
first consultation, the scans, the rehabit side, I meant, the surgery,
give me it all, man.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I know there's there's there's no way to hide any
of those facts. That's why it's really tough to say, oh, yeah,
he didn't really tear his claes, mainly because a like
I said, there's no win in saying oh, it's not
really torn achilles, that it would be great. It's an
injury and he's coming back at some point, there's no
great thing for it. Now in retrospect you can say, well,
here he is now is some kind of with some
(12:23):
kind if he's coming back from that, he seems superhuman.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Okay, but but remember he's.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Like it's a bad guy in silent reads. It's got
to get through a lot of people to keep this
out there.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And if if if that was the case, I think
we would have known by now. But where as far
as I'll go with this is that I wouldn't doubt
if once they got inside to look at him, doctor
Neil A. Latrosha was in there, I wouldn't doubt if
once they got in there they saw that maybe it
wasn't as and it's in the first initial reports were
a complete tear, but maybe it just I mean, I'm
(12:55):
not a doctor, but the best way I can go
is to say, maybe once they got in side, the
damage wasn't as irreparable or as difficult to repair as
it normally is because from some medical reason that I
don't know about, because you know, I'm not a doctor.
So that I wouldn't doubt that if hey, we went
and we sewed you up, and the doctor said to
Aaron Rodgers, hey it's good, Hey it wasn't as it
(13:17):
wasn't as bad a complete tear. Something like that that
I could see where hey, yeah, achilles injury torn achilles,
but not every injury is created equal, And maybe there's
a little bit of an advancement now where hey, because
of this tear was the way it was.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I can, I can.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I can do this and make make your rehab a
little bit faster on it. But I wouldn't doubt if
there was something inside that maybe it wasn't as bad
as a complete tear. It's gonna be a year. We'll
see you at camp hopefully in July. If you're moving
around well, that I wouldn't doubt. But to make it
up now, there's no way it's made up there.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Well, as a guy who's who's made arguments and claim
to fame in the world outside of sports, is that
people have made stuff up and conspired, and there's a
lot of them that have done it. Maybe he's just
trying to do the same thing. To go to the
bull conspiracy, as you say, a bunch of people would
have to be in on it. Maybe he's trying to
show that's not so hard. But no, like he would
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not want a miss games. He's thirty nine years old,
the clock is ticking on his career. He forced the
Jets to bring on all his buddies. He was ready
for a party and with Breise Hall and Garrett Wilson.
You know, I say all of this, you know, half
tongue in cheek, but it does fit his persona that
(14:36):
you know somewhere in the devil, the devil in the details.
I don't know that we've been told nearly everything that's
going on. Again, I just want to know, because if
he's really recovering this fast, right from from what we
were told that initial injury was, I mean, it's modern science,
you know, on its next level right here, with him
(14:59):
being the prototype. We've seen guys come fast back fast.
Remember the last guy we were celebrating for coming back
really fast was Cam Akers.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Oh wow, too soon for instruck by lightning?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Dude, it was wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
No, but you're still gonna say you can still Mere
not gonna getstruck by lightning.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I'm just telling the truth. I'm the truth telling around here.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Lightning is gonna find a way. It's gonna strike the
top of your house. It's gonna get all the way
down and just you in the chair, that's what's gonna
happen to you.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And that'll be Jamie Fox and the Amazing Spider Man
too running around that. I'll be Max.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
You know, Harmon's electro. Really, yeah, what happened? I he really?
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The latest craziness involving the Michigan sign stealing scandal coming
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biggest mystery of the last twenty four hours in sports,
the owners meeting is going on in Major League Baseball
right now, and the Yankees are very defiant and very
much ready for next season. Earlier today we saw stories
that hal stein Brenner said that one of the reasons
why he brought back Aaron Boone is because Aaron Boone
(17:05):
has a vision and and he likes bunting, and the
bunting's gonna be used more in in baseball now. So
that's why he likes Aaron Boone. Because Aaron Boone says, Hey,
we're gonna butnt more. I gonna teach the guys how
to bunt.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Oh, you're right, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Picturing how get him over, get him in.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I'm picturing hol Steinberner knowing nothing about sports and just
having sit down and Aaron Boone is like dazzling him
with his knowledge.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
You know, bunting's coming back. How are we gonna deal
with bunting? What is that? I don't know you're talking about?
What is it? How much money is that gonna cost me?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
No, no, no, it's a strategy that's gonna come back.
Oh do we have the players that do I gotta
get new played? What do I gotta do with?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
No? No, no, bunting's coming back, and we're gonna be
at the forefront of it. Oh, we're gonna be leading,
Yes we are. Oh, I'm so glad I brought you
back as manager. There's gonna be bunting going on in
Major League Baseball, and we're gonna be the best at
it all. I knew that was a great decision.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
He just looked at there across Major League Baseball and said,
what did we not do at all? We didn't run,
and we didn't bunt. Get him on, get him over,
get him in? Can we get Gan Carlos Stanton to
lose thirty five pounds and become fleet of foot?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And you know me, I hate bunting. I hate bunting.
I don't like bunting at all. I have a long
live I don't know what I hate more, bunting or
throwing a fade on the goal line. But they're almost
just equally equally useless and worthless to me. So I'm
glad you. The Yankees said they want to embrace bunting.
But here's Brian Cashman who said this today at the
(18:37):
owners meetings quote, I'm proud of our people, I'm proud
of our process. Doesn't mean we're firing on all cylinders,
doesn't mean we're the best in class. But I think
we're pretty blanking good personally. I'm proud of our people,
and I'm also looking forward to twenty four being a
better year than twenty three. Okay, let's examine that for
a second. Did you make a change in the front office?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Did you make a change?
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Man?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Are you gonna make a change in personnel because a
lot of guys big contracts, Well, it's gonna be really,
really difficult. So what you're saying is you're gonna bring
back the same team, the same manager, same front off
as you did last year when you are barely a
five hundred team. Yes, but I'm looking forward to it. Now,
here's the Yankees thinking the calendar turning to twenty twenty
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four is gonna magically be another great year for them.
I mean, look, I liked a couple of weeks ago
when hey, we're talking about Wan Soto and trying to
make a bold move.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
But now it's just, Hey, we're not the best. But
what are they gonna do? They're locked into so many
data they don't show any bit of foresight of Hey,
we're gonna do these outside the boxing to get out
from some money, to bring in some other talented players.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It's just, hey, it didn't work out for us this year.
We got some of the same guys. Hopefully it works
out next year, because it's gonna be twenty twenty four
and not twenty twenty three. This is a strategy that
is always doomed to fail. Just turn the calendar.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
We're gonna be fine.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Change a lot of process. I mean, you just lost
a guy to the Mets who's not gonna be the manager.
Oh yeah, and you're bringing back Aaron Boone.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Can we call the Mets and see if they'll trade
us the guy they took from us for Aaron Boone.
We're gonna swap those guys out. He said, send you Aaron,
and you send us back Carloss. Let's see if that works.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, I mean the curiosity. Obviously, they're in the sweepstakes,
trying to convince Cody Bellinger to come out, and we're
hearing all the talk of hey, it's gonna be different,
and we're getting back to the old Yankees way of spending.
I don't remember Bellinger piling up stolen bases, plays good Tunfield.
So that's good, but in terms of what he brings
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to the table generally another power player. So it doesn't
really change your profile there that much. But you know,
when we look at where you're at as Steinbrenner, he's
always gonna be in the shadow of the old man,
and people keep looking at It's like we talk about,
you know, Jerry Jones now versus Jerry Jones the Maverick
(21:01):
when he came in, right, we talked a lot about
the Cowboys last hour. Got to listen to the whole show,
or you can go podcast it while we're done. But
the idea of philosophically of all right, that worked then
and so trying to do the same thing and butting
your head against the wall. So I like the in theory.
Hey we're going to try something new. Here's the thing,
(21:23):
it doesn't happen overnight, and there's a lot of personnel
that would have to change out, not to mention your
banking on your farm system, really churning out these guys
at a high rate and getting to where their expectations
are being met. Right, is Jason Dominga is gonna be ready?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Oh, I'm sorry, he got hurt see what I did again. Yeah,
I tell you, I just keep walking into it. There's
a guy that was your top prospect. He was dominating
and now he's on the shelf. So that doesn't work.
Volpi that the numbers overall, there's some good that came
out of it, but there's still a lot that still
needs to be to be more consistent for him. The
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pitching staff, no one. Yes, look he's saying, hey, look
look at you. Gotta rebuild that entire thing.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Look here's what he said today, right. They want to
reinforce their pitching, add into outfielders and addressing their infield surplus.
That's a lot of crap to do when you don't
have a lot of money to spend. And the other
thing is, no one's gonna help the Yankees. No one
wants to make big trades with the Yankees unless hey,
am I getting a great prospect. No one's gonna help them.
(22:28):
Don't tell you we'll trade. They're gonna not trade with
the Yankees. Just on general principle. You don't see the
Yankees make big trades. That's why the Yankees have to
sign players in free agency and spend a lot of
money and spend the money the right way, because that's
the only they get. They get players because they sign
them in free agents or they bring them up from
the minor leagues. There's no trades, is no working this out.
No one does that. No one deals with the Yankees
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because no one wants to help them, right, just like
no one's gonna trade with the Dodgers because it was
all boy they got Trade Turner and Max Schurzer for nothing.
We're not doing that again. I don't know how the
Yankees think they're going to do this. I really I
don't get it. But hey, they all think so it's
gonna happen. But do you have a plan?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
No, just we're gonna do it. But what's the plan?
Don't have one? Doesn't matter. This is how the Yankees plan.
This is how they're trying to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well, you know what, at least they're saying they have
a plan and they're trying to put it out there,
because in the last couple of years, I think they
were just rolling a twenty sided dungeons and Dragons dice,
saying we got Aaron Judge, we got Garrett now, we
got Garrett Cole. Well that's gonna fix everything.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Oh, this year Aaron Judge only has twelve hit points. Oh,
he's gonna be hurt early. He's gonna be out of action.
I liked it last year when he had twenty was over.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And over under on games played for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Riddle be that hell, I rolled Aaron Boone Charisma was
a three. That's gonna be difficult. He's gonna get thrown
out of a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
That The reason that rolled into my head was and
I just got the dice rolled in. There is my daughter,
like they do their their game fun and excitement at
eleanor in her timeline, all of us, there's always these
you know, accessories or hey, you want to upgrade your
game experience. And there were these cool dungeons and dragonde
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that she was looking at, and I go, they's seventy dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
If you're playing a lot right and you're totally invested
in you're you're going to the local comic shop, or
you're hosting a game. Uh with some regularity, Okay, pay
your seventy bucks. Those are really cool, but they're gonna
sit in a bag in the backyard. She I know.
I know because now she has a job. It's like
(24:33):
you go and you buy those die.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I'm gonna think that exit.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
How about a Fresco exit? Swollen dumb the Jason Smithson
with Mike Carbon. So there's the Yankees, and there's Dungeons
and Dragons, and there's Eleanor not getting expensive dice exa.
The biggest mystery the last twenty four hours sort of,
I don't want to say it was an un it
was a mystery that was impossible to deduce, Like knives out,
(24:59):
no one was more easier, like glass onion.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Craig Counsel leaves the Brewers.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
For the Cubs, and he said today I wanted a
new challenge, all the things you expect guys to say.
The Brewers said earlier today, owner Mark Attanasio said, when
they told me he was leaving for the Cubs, I said,
are you kidding me? Are you playing a joke? Players
were surprised that Craig Counsel was leaving. Dude just got
to read the internet the last month and a half.
I'm pretty sure that he was going to go. But
(25:25):
why did he leave? Why did he go? And it's
it's really simple, and it's got a lot to do
with Moneyball. Right at the end of Moneyball, Billy sorry,
spoiler it, Billy gets the offer to go be the
GM of the of the Red Sox. Right, and he's
tried in Oakland for a long time. He's tried, and
he's tried saving money. There's fifty feet of crap, and
then there's us and and and Steve Wood. Steve Shott
(25:48):
wouldn'tive him any money. What else can I do for
you today, Billy? How is he going to build it?
He was done trying to build a team on a
shoe string budget. He needed a little bit more money,
little bit more resources to try to win. Here come
the Red Socks and the Red Sox show up and
it's like, here's a salary, and you're the richest GM
ever and you're gonna bring us back to the Promised
Land and science has an answer for the curse of
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the Bambino. But Billy doesn't take the deal. Why mainly
because his Dartera calls and says, hey, if you don't,
if you leave California, you are a great dad.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Whoa whoa, and she sings the song you said you
lose her dad.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So Billy stays as GM of the A's Right now,
it's the same thing for Craig Counsel and the Brewers.
He's done a lot, he's maxed out with Milwaukee. This
is as good as you're gonna get. Could you get
to a season where you make one kind of ragtag
run to the World Series like the Diamondbacks. Yeah, but
you know what, You've kind of been in that position
the last few years, and as good you're a good
(26:44):
enough team to get into the playoffs and win the
division and then you go out right, you had you
had maybe your best team like three years ago, and
you still fell short. So he knows that this is
where we're going to be. We're never gonna spend a
ton of money. We're Milwaukee. I have an owner that
doesn't want to give me a big contract, didn't want
to give David Stearn's a big contract, so he left,
And now I want to leave. I just want I
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want more money, and I want to be able to
go to a place where I can win. Right, it's
the same thing as Moneyball, except here he gets an
offer from a team in the Midwest where he can
stay and I can manage the Cubs, and I can
drive and see my family anytime I want to. It's
a short com I don't have to worry about that.
If Billy Bean was gonna be hired by a team
on the West Coast, he would have left the A's.
(27:25):
He would have gone to it bigger, and he would
have gone to the Dodgers if they called him to
hire him back in two thousand and three or two
thousand and four. But Red Sox was too far away
to everything. But this is why Craig Council. I want
to stay close to home. I want a chance to win.
The Cubs is the perfect opportunity for me to do it.
It's everything that I wanted, It's everything lined up. If
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I don't take this now, it's never gonna happen for me.
I use the Mets' leverage to hope that something would happen.
I could have always gone back to Milwaukee and signed
for another year and waited things out for another you
ever wanted to. But I rolled the dice. I pushed
my my leverage, and look what happened. The cub showed
up and made me the most highest paid manager in
(28:06):
Major League Baseball, even though I've never gone to a
World Series. He won He won because he got what
he wanted personally and he got what he wanted professionally.
And that's why Craig Counsel is now the manager of
the Chicago Cubs.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well, a lot of promises, right, We've talked about it
for the last couple of weeks as the uh, well,
the Cubs collapse happened. And now David Ross who gets
bounced and whatever his role becomes, or if he just
goes back into the broadcast booth or just into a
happy retirement, whatever the case may be. Change was inevitable
(28:39):
in Chicago, and the assurances were that they were going
to try to build a powerhouse and go spend.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
They're gonna spend.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
They started right off the jump by spending a lot
on the manager. Hey guess what, it's a ninety mile
drive or about twenty minutes up and down in an airplane.
If that's what you need to do, If you need
to go back to Milwaukee for any business, personal meet
and greets, whatever, you can go and do that nice
(29:05):
and easily. So it's perfect. Right, you've seen the photoshop show.
Heyo Tani Cubs uniforms. Maybe he stays in Anaheim. Maybe
he's a Dodger. Maybe he can he goes to the
East Coast. All of that is possible. Cody Bellinger just
wants to get his giant pile of money. Scott Borris
will do his best to make sure that's the case,
(29:27):
but he wants to be in Chicago. He's been pretty
adamant about that that he loved his time and what
they did. And after that collapse, they saw that they're
not that far away. And the team that came and
got them in the end, right at the photo finish
at the end, got to the World Series. So in Chicago,
(29:47):
they're looking around and the Ricketts family printing money at
this point with all the businesses and everything going around
Wrigleyville and what you know, it's the greatest outdoor bar
in America. That they're ready to go and spend money.
And they showed it by committing such a large pile
of cash to Craig Counsel. That was the Hey, dark Knight,
(30:08):
there's all the money sitting there. Do we burn it
or do we give it to you? And now he's
got it, and so he goes and manages the Cubs because,
let's face it, you also want to step up in
class of your notoriety. You've been doing a good job
for Milwaukee. Unless you're a real baseball fan, nobody knows
who the hell you are. You're the manager of the Cubs,
like being the coach of notre to him or the
(30:30):
Cowboys or whatever else. Yeah, everybody knows you. The spotlight's on,
and for Craig Counsel, maybe he wanted a little bit
of that light to shine after winning some manager of
the Year awards and everybody going, who's that he played shortstop?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Right?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I think I have a couple of rookie cards in
his con in that Commons box over there.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So that's why Craig Counsel is the Cubs manager and
it's everything.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Now. You want to go back and watch money Ball,
don't you? You did?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Oh? I'm gonna yeah, there's no question about it. Play
especially I want to sing that song.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Sure you're set to loser, Dad, Just enjoy the show.
Uh now, while you enjoy the stylings and sports of
Isaac Lohenkron with what's trending? What do you got? Ilo? Well,
I thank you.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Will stir with the latest college football playoff rankings. Jason
and Mike released this evening Ohio state number one, followed
by Georgia, Michigan, and Florida state. Washington number five. Oregon
is number six. Speaking of Washington in Major League Baseball,
the Athletic reports that the Los Angeles Angels are interviewing
Ron Washington tonight for their managing job. Washington won two
(31:33):
American League pennants with the Texas Rangers when he managed
them from two thousand and seven through twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Hey, playing first base is easy, tell him Washed, It's
incredibly hard. Good pull there by the way, you want
me to play first base for Giambi? What about the fans? Yeah,
maybe I can get one of the fans. Good one.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's incredibly hard.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
The NFL multiple outlets support the Los Angeles Rams, citing
free agent quarterback Carson Wentz to back up Matthew Stafford.
Stafford miss last Sunday's loss at Green Bay because of
a sprained right thumb. Finally, some new developments in a
story we brought to you earlier. Philadelphia Eagles center Jason
Kelsey will be featured along with the likes of Lenny
(32:14):
Kravitz and Usher, in this year's People magazine Sexiest Man Alive.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Issue.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Well, since we last brought that story to you, reaction
is pouring in from all corners. Tatum posting and I quote,
wtf If he could be a finalist, so could I.
Zven contributing and I quote this is three out of
ten of the guys who walk into the gas station
near where I hunt. Lol. Anthony posting, bro really got
(32:47):
that Dad build. And finally another individual commenting and I quote,
beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Dot dot dot.
That comment from Kelsey himself fellas back to you.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Very nice.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I love so tweet at him. Smith Ilo get a response.
You'll be Internet famous.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Exit out vouta fresca exit swollen dome. Jason Smith Mike
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up next, a zany update on the biggest football story
of the past couple of weeks. With every passing day,
I don't know how this gets insane more insane, but
it does.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
That's next right here. Fox. You're such a loser, Dad,
You're such a loser. Dad. Justin enjoy the show.
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Speaker 3 (34:47):
You know, if John Wick was loved, maybe, you know,
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Speaker 1 (34:58):
The Michigan sign stealing scan just gets more bizarre every day. Yeah,
story today that Connor Stallions was in court. He was
the coach that is accused of stealing the signs that
we've been talking about for the last few weeks, Michigan
illegally stealing signs and recording them. Was in court and
(35:20):
had a case this is this is a while ago
with someone and he said the reason he was in
court against this person is because he's a Michigan State
fan who just wanted to make make him unable to
make Michigan great again. That's why I'm making against me,
because he wants to stop me from making Michigan grade again.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Well, you know the old rule of representing yourself. You've
watched it enough law and order.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Oh my goodness. He just wants Michigan to lose.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And I'm every minute I'm in this court, you are
wasting my time, judge, because Michigan could be better.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
And I'm sitting here talking to you quote.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I suspect that whoever has chosen to assume me either
one doesn't like the fact that I'm a veteran or
two is a Michigan State fan and knows I'm a
Michigan football coach and wants to draw my attention away.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
So there's the bizarreness of this. First of all, I
can't believe this is a guy that Michigan on some
level and trusted to steal signs.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
This guy, the guy.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Wrote a six hundred page manifesto about how I'm gonna
take over the Michigan.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Football is gonna make it great again.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
He was in court and this happening. Still this is
our guy. But it's just this is the perfect guy. No,
it's not the perfect because nobody's gonna believe anything.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
It's like if he comes forward and says I was
the mastermind of all it, HAN say, that guy's insane.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Really need do I need to say anything more than
plausible deniability?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
That's all I need. That's my man.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Was in court going after Jeff down the streets.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Now, on the heels of that report, today, Michigan has
sent documents to the Big Ten that says they believe
three conference teams engaged in communication about the Wolverine signals
last year. So Michigan says that Rutgers, Ohio State, and
Purdue shared information with each other about what Michigan signs were.
It's a conspiracy, right, And what do I always say?
(37:16):
I can't fault a great strategy. With the NCAAA and
the hammer coming down on Michigan. What have they done
in the last few days. They have now muddied this
thing up and now it's hey, you think we were
stealing signals. We know that other people were stealing signals.
There's a report Ryan Day had a private investigator to
try to figure out Michigan signals and everything is so craze.
(37:40):
Now it's which way is up?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Right? Like, I don't know, I don't know where to
go right now? Now the strategy is to just let's just.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Blind everybody with craziness and sign stealing. It's not just us,
it's other teams. What are we going to do? How
are we going to win this? We're going to confuse
the hell out of people. And right now even see
the NCAA sort of backing off a little bit. Well,
maybe Harbaugh's gonna get a suspension. This is what we're hearing.
Maybe it's something from Michigan, but they're gonna appeal, and
(38:09):
we want to give Michigan a chance to really stand
up and defend themselves here. And it's all because look
at all this information out there. Oh, you think we're
stealing signals, everybody else is stealing signals, and here's another story,
and we're gonna get something every single day now, because
when this happens, this is what stops the wheels of justice,
all the panic and all of the questioning, Wait a minute,
(38:31):
are we really following the right story? Do we have
to follow this story? Do we have to follow the
report about Rutgers in Ohio State and Purdue? Do we
have to go talk to those schools? And this is
how Michigan's gonna try to win this thing. And by
win this thing, I mean be able to win this
win the Big Ten, and be eligible to go and
play for the national championship. This is their strategy. We're
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going to confuse the hell out of you and make
everybody think that there's a lot of craziness. And that's
how we're going to stay alive until the NCAA finally
soort through everything and figures out an answer.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Well, the other part, right when you're if you're looking
for the conference itself to to come up with some
sort of punitive action, guess what they benefit from Michigan
being in the top four. I mean they're not going
to act swiftly, rashly, whatever without a ton of appeals
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and process, due process. As the letter from the head
of Michigan came through right supporting Harbaugh. And it always
comes back to this. It doesn't matter what I believe.
It only matters what I can prove. So don't tell
me what I know or don't know. I know the law.
(39:42):
That's where we're at. It's either that or you go
back to you know, with all respect Matthew Perry, if
I'm going down, I've taking all of you with me,
and that's really more appropriate for the situation at hands.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Well.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
We might have done something wrong, but I have proof
that that guy and that guy, and then you got
to sort that out and corroborate or dismiss those charges
at allegations. Yeah, it's just a mess.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
See, I just want to play should we or should
we not? Funnel the advice of the galactically stupid? Now,
that's because that's what this story is. It's the galactically
gatically stupid. Coming up next, we have more from college football,
the latest on the college football playoff pol and we
ask a big, big question that's next right here, Jason
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it's funny we mentioned moneyball a couple of times last
hour on the show. You have a big moneyball to
get to in a few minutes on the show. On
the twentieth anniversary of Elf.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
How do you think Billy Bean and Buddy would get along?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Ooh, Billy movie movie Billy Bean? Not well, book Billy Bean, Yes,
I get along?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, okay, yeah, they'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, Moneyball would be a different movie if instead of
Jonah Hill he went to get Buddy the Elf to
be his you know, the guy that teach him about Moneyball.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, I mean he had a good arm. He could
have gone gotten out of that staff and been part
of that pitching rotation. They didn't talk about.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Carlos. You've been traded to the Tigers. Oh so wonderful.
You're gonna get to play with tigers and they're gonna roar.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
And they're gonna what do you think about muskrats? He
can have them for dinner, boy, And these little hamburgers
you could eat him, buy the sack. They're delicious.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
But the day.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
After for the Jets loss to the La Chargers has
brought another full slate of craziness and controversy. Now, first
let me just say this, because I know you're wondering.
I'm much better today than I was last night.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
You were not well, lest I was not good, not great, Bob,
I was not great.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
No, there was a there was a moment where it
really started to fall apart. Yeah. No, And psychologically, I
think I think there was a slight break. If we
checked your brain scan when uh my man, what does
he come in at like three point fifty on the
defensive line was trying to squat down and pick up
the ball flat footed instead of diving on it.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Michael Clemens.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, thank you, Michael Clements, thank you, thank you for
thank you for reminding me of that one play that
absolutely killed the Jets.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, no, thank you, but I and.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We could go back and rewind the tape. You looked
like Ralph Wigan would.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Have to have the tape back to me. I know,
don't have to have that happen, okay.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But we can do that. I mean that you want
to talk about a video promo, ty shure.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You guys do video too, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah. If we could do that and cut that with
maybe John Wick, uh, you know, kind of narrating the
demise of Jets fan Jason Smith in studio there in
that Week nine defeat, that would be great.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
So down.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Aaron Rodgers return to the Jets got ramped up following
we played it for you last night when he rand
to Derwin James after the game and Derri jameson when
are you coming back?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And he said, ah, a couple of weeks, A couple
of weeks, A couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, at least he didn't say about the time you
get hurt.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Oh, see, that would have been that's bad karma, man,
that's bad karma. That would have been then that Hey
would have got hurt again.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Why would you, Dewin James can't stay on the field, man,
Why would you do that to him?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh? I just thought it would have been a snappy
comeback from Aaron Rodgers related to it.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But Dorwin, James is kind of being nice to him,
so he.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Was, even though I was really enjoying beating up on
your undersuit. Yeah, what are you coming you'll.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You'll, you'll, You'll have been out for a month. By
the time I'm coming back to Matt, your season will
be over for a while. Man, it's gonna be opposite.
You're gonna be the guy in the T shirt and
shorts and I'm gonna be the guy coming off the field.
So he says, I'm coming back in a couple of weeks. Whoao,
A couple of weeks, A couple of weeks. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And you know, this is.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
What's got me excited a little bit more than a
better mood going okay four and four. The Jets offense
is absolutely terrible. No need to go into that again
after last.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Night the Jets of points.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I know that I said. When I say no need
to go into it means just no need to go
into it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
In case people missed it, we need to specificity the
number of point.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And you know me, I want to get I want
to be positive and maybe last night was the final
wake up call for Zach Wilson and the Jets.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And there's gonna be changed. I can always hope there's
gonna be changed, right, can always? You always?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
The line I sent you from Robert Sala meeting the
media earlier.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you want to bring that to me?
No want you it's your line, gud you bring it ye.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Robert Sala was asked about the fact that you've got
practice squad quarterback Trevor Simeon, so he was on the
Michael k Show. Quote, you got Trevor Simeon in your building,
with an NFL veteran with starting experience, why not give
him a try? Robert Salah His answer, I got you again,
(05:18):
fair question, Like I said, I don't know. I'm gonna
plead the fifth on this one. In terms of just
I kind of explained it respectfully. Obviously they're valid questions
I know, from a passionate fan, from fans who are passionate,
all having the same questions, I respect it greatly, passionate fans,
fans who are passionate.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
In other words, I have no answers, like I said
last night, no answers. And I know it's not Woody
Johnson saying play Zach Wilson because Woody Johnson wants to win.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
It's like, you know, like I said, I could just
hope that this is the last wake up call and
the Jets are going to allow him to throw the
football downfield. They'll do something to get better receives on
the field because the guys out there outside of seventeen
all stink. So I got to hope, right, So want
to be positive and Rogers coming back a couple weeks,
A couple weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, wait, what's a couple of weeks? Is it Thanksgiving?
Is it right after Thanksgiving? When's it going to be?
Who are we to see first, Santa Claus or Aaron Rodgers? Well,
Aaron Rodgers million dollar Aaron Rodgers went on the Pat
McAfee show earlier today, on ESPN, and he explained how
long he thinks it will be until he is back
on the field.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
He came over DApp me up during during the game,
and good to see him after the game. I didn't
realize that was going to get caught there. I mean,
obviously that was said with a little tongue in cheek there.
It'd be nice to be able to be back in
a couple of weeks. That's probably not anywhere near a
realistic timeline, but a couple is, you know, it could
be be a few, could be a lot of it.
(06:45):
It's more of a phrase that didn't have a specific timetable,
but I said, it's smiling joking, you know. He was
talking about how you know he's excited for me to
get back on the field. At some point, I joked
it be a few weeks, but obviously it's going to
be more a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
So a couples to a few three ye a rush
bars four, right, Yeah, I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
It's gonna be it's gonna be a few, it's gonna
be a few, a few fortnights, It'll be a few fortnights.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I just love that he used the word fortnight.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So see I bawling December seventeenth, Hi.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Fortnight for you the fos where Hi right Ton has
quantermack of the New York Jets and two fortnights from
now we need on the battlefield.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, but how do you not just ask him explicitly
when are you gonna be back in a New York groove?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Hmm, I think he answered. I think he answered, dude.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
December seventeen against the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Now, a couple of fortnights is a month, because a
fortnight is two weeks. Because I'm sorry, I got to
explained to millennials and Generation Z what a fortnite is
because they just think it's a video game. No, a
fortnit is a period of two weeks, which is how
in old English times people would use time.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And we need to turn in time.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
We need to survive the next fortnight before we can
attack the enemy under cover of night. The fortnight. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Fortnite.
So it will be a few fortnights. For Aaron Rodgers,
it was well done nights the Fortnight.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
We need costume, We need a costume budget. We need
to work on that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I will support Zach of Wilson until the time in
two fortnights from now where I hither turn a ton,
throw the jets, lineup on the field on top my
mighty steed and Lance.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well, as soon as you get a mighty steed into
the mix, I mean, now you just well, I mean
we were just at Santa Anita. We could have done
this whole bit in front of a paddock.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I didn't know he was gonna say fortnite until today.
I know, you know what.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I saw some practice video from Delmar. You ready to
drive to Delmark to do the bit. Let's let's stick
to the bit. I'll get you one of those big
fluffy collars like Shakespeare was always a picture is wearing,
and we'll go from there.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Call the Mason. Haven't prepared my colors. They are now
green and white as I read died on battle hand. Yeah,
I'm final.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Wait wait, wait, now you're going to hunt on me
to a freedom medieval times and you're the green Knight.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
If we can postpone the attack against the pirates in
a week from now, the one eyed Pirates and my
black and hello, I am able to lead my men
on the field again.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Change my colors to green and white.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
This is really escalating. I like this. This is good.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You could just see Aaron Rodgers as a night. He's
gonna right down the horse cliplop cliplot.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Hey, hey, it's the price is right, He'll commit to
the bit. Are you kidding me? Uh?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Now, the other part of this now, because now, look, Rogers,
I'm gonna say, I'm thinking in a month. I'm thinking
he's back in a month. A couple of weeks is
a little bit too soon. In a month sometime before Christmas,
he will be back sometime in early December. Now, with
this timeline out there, there was a couple of big
conspiracy theories going on on the internet earlier today. I
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know somebody's on the Dan LeBatard podcast saying that he
thinks maybe Aaron Rodgers ever tore his achilles, dude, and
that no.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
No, and I.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And all those guys that said it like we had
weeks ago, we were knowing to far nights. Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Now, the here's as far as I'll go, because this
is what I I If you're telling me, boy, this
could really be some kind of insane recovery no one's
ever had. Maybe, And this is this is how far
all go because there's no way he didn't sustain a
serious achilles injury.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
There's no way.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I mean, it would be a conspiracy theory that he
didn't tear his achilles would be just too much, right,
Conspiracy theories work the less people that know about them.
And you're talking about the entire Jets organization.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Rogers, his teammates, they all know. They all like that,
they all know, they're all the doctors are all that.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
There's no way you keep a complete Why would you
why would you make why why would you even try
to hide the fact that it's an achilles Because if
he didn't tear his achilles, great, he's rehabbit, he's coming back.
There's no win. Like, there's no win by saying I
didn't tear my achilles. Now look at me come back there,
because you'd have to have thought about this ahead of time.
Going don't say anything. I'm gonna make it seem like
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I'm coming back of an injury, unlike anybody else in
the history of mankind.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, he just might be an evil genius.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
No, look on brand. Oh, it's completely on brand.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Roger is the one guy that I would say, Hey,
who's going to pretend they're coming back from a torn achilles.
It didn't really happen, that's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I have no doubt he sustained a big injury just
from a if it was legitimately a terror. I think
as a society that breaks down film and with all
the pickleball injuries and insurance claims that are that are
rolling up about Achilles and everything else popping across this nation,
I think we need a full on documentary. Forget about
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the dolphins, give me that for hard knocks man, the
first consultation, the scans, the rehabit side, I meant, the surgery,
give me it all, man.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I know there's there's there's no way to hide any
of those facts. That's why it's really tough to say, oh, yeah,
he didn't really tear his claes, mainly because a like
I said, there's no win in saying oh, it's not
really torn achilles, that it would be great. It's an
injury and he's coming back at some point, there's no
great thing for it. Now in retrospect you can say, well,
here he is now is some kind of with some
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kind if he's coming back from that, he seems superhuman.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Okay, but but remember he's.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Like it's a bad guy in silent reads. It's got
to get through a lot of people to keep this
out there.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And if if if that was the case, I think
we would have known by now. But where as far
as I'll go with this is that I wouldn't doubt
if once they got inside to look at him, doctor
Neil A. Latrosha was in there, I wouldn't doubt if
once they got in there they saw that maybe it
wasn't as and it's in the first initial reports were
a complete tear, but maybe it just I mean, I'm
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not a doctor, but the best way I can go
is to say, maybe once they got in side, the
damage wasn't as irreparable or as difficult to repair as
it normally is because from some medical reason that I
don't know about, because you know, I'm not a doctor.
So that I wouldn't doubt that if hey, we went
and we sewed you up, and the doctor said to
Aaron Rodgers, hey it's good, Hey it wasn't as it
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wasn't as bad a complete tear. Something like that that
I could see where hey, yeah, achilles injury torn achilles,
but not every injury is created equal, And maybe there's
a little bit of an advancement now where hey, because
of this tear was the way it was.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I can, I can.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I can do this and make make your rehab a
little bit faster on it. But I wouldn't doubt if
there was something inside that maybe it wasn't as bad
as a complete tear. It's gonna be a year. We'll
see you at camp hopefully in July. If you're moving
around well, that I wouldn't doubt. But to make it
up now, there's no way it's made up there.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Well, as a guy who's who's made arguments and claim
to fame in the world outside of sports, is that
people have made stuff up and conspired, and there's a
lot of them that have done it. Maybe he's just
trying to do the same thing. To go to the
bull conspiracy, as you say, a bunch of people would
have to be in on it. Maybe he's trying to
show that's not so hard. But no, like he would
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not want a miss games. He's thirty nine years old,
the clock is ticking on his career. He forced the
Jets to bring on all his buddies. He was ready
for a party and with Breise Hall and Garrett Wilson.
You know, I say all of this, you know, half
tongue in cheek, but it does fit his persona that
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you know somewhere in the devil, the devil in the details.
I don't know that we've been told nearly everything that's
going on. Again, I just want to know, because if
he's really recovering this fast, right from from what we
were told that initial injury was, I mean, it's modern science,
you know, on its next level right here, with him
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being the prototype. We've seen guys come fast back fast.
Remember the last guy we were celebrating for coming back
really fast was Cam Akers.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Oh wow, too soon for instruck by lightning?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Dude, it was wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
No, but you're still gonna say you can still Mere
not gonna getstruck by lightning.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I'm just telling the truth. I'm the truth telling around here.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Lightning is gonna find a way. It's gonna strike the
top of your house. It's gonna get all the way
down and just you in the chair, that's what's gonna
happen to you.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And that'll be Jamie Fox and the Amazing Spider Man
too running around that. I'll be Max.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
You know, Harmon's electro. Really, yeah, what happened? I he really?
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Well.
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Speaker 1 (16:21):
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The latest craziness involving the Michigan sign stealing scandal coming
up in a bit. But before we get to the
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biggest mystery of the last twenty four hours in sports,
the owners meeting is going on in Major League Baseball
right now, and the Yankees are very defiant and very
much ready for next season. Earlier today we saw stories
that hal stein Brenner said that one of the reasons
why he brought back Aaron Boone is because Aaron Boone
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has a vision and and he likes bunting, and the
bunting's gonna be used more in in baseball now. So
that's why he likes Aaron Boone. Because Aaron Boone says, Hey,
we're gonna butnt more. I gonna teach the guys how
to bunt.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Oh, you're right, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Picturing how get him over, get him in.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I'm picturing hol Steinberner knowing nothing about sports and just
having sit down and Aaron Boone is like dazzling him
with his knowledge.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
You know, bunting's coming back. How are we gonna deal
with bunting? What is that? I don't know you're talking about?
What is it? How much money is that gonna cost me?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
No, no, no, it's a strategy that's gonna come back.
Oh do we have the players that do I gotta
get new played? What do I gotta do with?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
No? No, no, bunting's coming back, and we're gonna be
at the forefront of it. Oh, we're gonna be leading,
Yes we are. Oh, I'm so glad I brought you
back as manager. There's gonna be bunting going on in
Major League Baseball, and we're gonna be the best at
it all. I knew that was a great decision.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
He just looked at there across Major League Baseball and said,
what did we not do at all? We didn't run,
and we didn't bunt. Get him on, get him over,
get him in? Can we get Gan Carlos Stanton to
lose thirty five pounds and become fleet of foot?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And you know me, I hate bunting. I hate bunting.
I don't like bunting at all. I have a long
live I don't know what I hate more, bunting or
throwing a fade on the goal line. But they're almost
just equally equally useless and worthless to me. So I'm
glad you. The Yankees said they want to embrace bunting.
But here's Brian Cashman who said this today at the
(18:37):
owners meetings quote, I'm proud of our people, I'm proud
of our process. Doesn't mean we're firing on all cylinders,
doesn't mean we're the best in class. But I think
we're pretty blanking good personally. I'm proud of our people,
and I'm also looking forward to twenty four being a
better year than twenty three. Okay, let's examine that for
a second. Did you make a change in the front office?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Did you make a change?
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Man?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Are you gonna make a change in personnel because a
lot of guys big contracts, Well, it's gonna be really,
really difficult. So what you're saying is you're gonna bring
back the same team, the same manager, same front off
as you did last year when you are barely a
five hundred team. Yes, but I'm looking forward to it. Now,
here's the Yankees thinking the calendar turning to twenty twenty
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four is gonna magically be another great year for them.
I mean, look, I liked a couple of weeks ago
when hey, we're talking about Wan Soto and trying to
make a bold move.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
But now it's just, Hey, we're not the best. But
what are they gonna do? They're locked into so many
data they don't show any bit of foresight of Hey,
we're gonna do these outside the boxing to get out
from some money, to bring in some other talented players.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It's just, hey, it didn't work out for us this year.
We got some of the same guys. Hopefully it works
out next year, because it's gonna be twenty twenty four
and not twenty twenty three. This is a strategy that
is always doomed to fail. Just turn the calendar.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
We're gonna be fine.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Change a lot of process. I mean, you just lost
a guy to the Mets who's not gonna be the manager.
Oh yeah, and you're bringing back Aaron Boone.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Can we call the Mets and see if they'll trade
us the guy they took from us for Aaron Boone.
We're gonna swap those guys out. He said, send you Aaron,
and you send us back Carloss. Let's see if that works.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, I mean the curiosity. Obviously, they're in the sweepstakes,
trying to convince Cody Bellinger to come out, and we're
hearing all the talk of hey, it's gonna be different,
and we're getting back to the old Yankees way of spending.
I don't remember Bellinger piling up stolen bases, plays good Tunfield.
So that's good, but in terms of what he brings
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to the table generally another power player. So it doesn't
really change your profile there that much. But you know,
when we look at where you're at as Steinbrenner, he's
always gonna be in the shadow of the old man,
and people keep looking at It's like we talk about,
you know, Jerry Jones now versus Jerry Jones the Maverick
(21:01):
when he came in, right, we talked a lot about
the Cowboys last hour. Got to listen to the whole show,
or you can go podcast it while we're done. But
the idea of philosophically of all right, that worked then
and so trying to do the same thing and butting
your head against the wall. So I like the in theory.
Hey we're going to try something new. Here's the thing,
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it doesn't happen overnight, and there's a lot of personnel
that would have to change out, not to mention your
banking on your farm system, really churning out these guys
at a high rate and getting to where their expectations
are being met. Right, is Jason Dominga is gonna be ready?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Oh, I'm sorry, he got hurt see what I did again. Yeah,
I tell you, I just keep walking into it. There's
a guy that was your top prospect. He was dominating
and now he's on the shelf. So that doesn't work.
Volpi that the numbers overall, there's some good that came
out of it, but there's still a lot that still
needs to be to be more consistent for him. The
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pitching staff, no one. Yes, look he's saying, hey, look
look at you. Gotta rebuild that entire thing.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Look here's what he said today, right. They want to
reinforce their pitching, add into outfielders and addressing their infield surplus.
That's a lot of crap to do when you don't
have a lot of money to spend. And the other
thing is, no one's gonna help the Yankees. No one
wants to make big trades with the Yankees unless hey,
am I getting a great prospect. No one's gonna help them.
(22:28):
Don't tell you we'll trade. They're gonna not trade with
the Yankees. Just on general principle. You don't see the
Yankees make big trades. That's why the Yankees have to
sign players in free agency and spend a lot of
money and spend the money the right way, because that's
the only they get. They get players because they sign
them in free agents or they bring them up from
the minor leagues. There's no trades, is no working this out.
No one does that. No one deals with the Yankees
(22:48):
because no one wants to help them, right, just like
no one's gonna trade with the Dodgers because it was
all boy they got Trade Turner and Max Schurzer for nothing.
We're not doing that again. I don't know how the
Yankees think they're going to do this. I really I
don't get it. But hey, they all think so it's
gonna happen. But do you have a plan?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
No, just we're gonna do it. But what's the plan?
Don't have one? Doesn't matter. This is how the Yankees plan.
This is how they're trying to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well, you know what, at least they're saying they have
a plan and they're trying to put it out there,
because in the last couple of years, I think they
were just rolling a twenty sided dungeons and Dragons dice,
saying we got Aaron Judge, we got Garrett now, we
got Garrett Cole. Well that's gonna fix everything.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Oh, this year Aaron Judge only has twelve hit points. Oh,
he's gonna be hurt early. He's gonna be out of action.
I liked it last year when he had twenty was over.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And over under on games played for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Riddle be that hell, I rolled Aaron Boone Charisma was
a three. That's gonna be difficult. He's gonna get thrown
out of a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
That The reason that rolled into my head was and
I just got the dice rolled in. There is my daughter,
like they do their their game fun and excitement at
eleanor in her timeline, all of us, there's always these
you know, accessories or hey, you want to upgrade your
game experience. And there were these cool dungeons and dragonde
(24:08):
that she was looking at, and I go, they's seventy dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
If you're playing a lot right and you're totally invested
in you're you're going to the local comic shop, or
you're hosting a game. Uh with some regularity, Okay, pay
your seventy bucks. Those are really cool, but they're gonna
sit in a bag in the backyard. She I know.
I know because now she has a job. It's like
(24:33):
you go and you buy those die.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I'm gonna think that exit.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
How about a Fresco exit? Swollen dumb the Jason Smithson
with Mike Carbon. So there's the Yankees, and there's Dungeons
and Dragons, and there's Eleanor not getting expensive dice exa.
The biggest mystery the last twenty four hours sort of,
I don't want to say it was an un it
was a mystery that was impossible to deduce, Like knives out,
(24:59):
no one was more easier, like glass onion.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Craig Counsel leaves the Brewers.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
For the Cubs, and he said today I wanted a
new challenge, all the things you expect guys to say.
The Brewers said earlier today, owner Mark Attanasio said, when
they told me he was leaving for the Cubs, I said,
are you kidding me? Are you playing a joke? Players
were surprised that Craig Counsel was leaving. Dude just got
to read the internet the last month and a half.
I'm pretty sure that he was going to go. But
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why did he leave? Why did he go? And it's
it's really simple, and it's got a lot to do
with Moneyball. Right at the end of Moneyball, Billy sorry,
spoiler it, Billy gets the offer to go be the
GM of the of the Red Sox. Right, and he's
tried in Oakland for a long time. He's tried, and
he's tried saving money. There's fifty feet of crap, and
then there's us and and and Steve Wood. Steve Shott
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wouldn'tive him any money. What else can I do for
you today, Billy? How is he going to build it?
He was done trying to build a team on a
shoe string budget. He needed a little bit more money,
little bit more resources to try to win. Here come
the Red Socks and the Red Sox show up and
it's like, here's a salary, and you're the richest GM
ever and you're gonna bring us back to the Promised
Land and science has an answer for the curse of
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the Bambino. But Billy doesn't take the deal. Why mainly
because his Dartera calls and says, hey, if you don't,
if you leave California, you are a great dad.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Whoa whoa, and she sings the song you said you
lose her dad.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So Billy stays as GM of the A's Right now,
it's the same thing for Craig Counsel and the Brewers.
He's done a lot, he's maxed out with Milwaukee. This
is as good as you're gonna get. Could you get
to a season where you make one kind of ragtag
run to the World Series like the Diamondbacks. Yeah, but
you know what, You've kind of been in that position
the last few years, and as good you're a good
(26:44):
enough team to get into the playoffs and win the
division and then you go out right, you had you
had maybe your best team like three years ago, and
you still fell short. So he knows that this is
where we're going to be. We're never gonna spend a
ton of money. We're Milwaukee. I have an owner that
doesn't want to give me a big contract, didn't want
to give David Stearn's a big contract, so he left,
And now I want to leave. I just want I
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want more money, and I want to be able to
go to a place where I can win. Right, it's
the same thing as Moneyball, except here he gets an
offer from a team in the Midwest where he can
stay and I can manage the Cubs, and I can
drive and see my family anytime I want to. It's
a short com I don't have to worry about that.
If Billy Bean was gonna be hired by a team
on the West Coast, he would have left the A's.
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He would have gone to it bigger, and he would
have gone to the Dodgers if they called him to
hire him back in two thousand and three or two
thousand and four. But Red Sox was too far away
to everything. But this is why Craig Council. I want
to stay close to home. I want a chance to win.
The Cubs is the perfect opportunity for me to do it.
It's everything that I wanted, It's everything lined up. If
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I don't take this now, it's never gonna happen for me.
I use the Mets' leverage to hope that something would happen.
I could have always gone back to Milwaukee and signed
for another year and waited things out for another you
ever wanted to. But I rolled the dice. I pushed
my my leverage, and look what happened. The cub showed
up and made me the most highest paid manager in
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Major League Baseball, even though I've never gone to a
World Series. He won He won because he got what
he wanted personally and he got what he wanted professionally.
And that's why Craig Counsel is now the manager of
the Chicago Cubs.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well, a lot of promises, right, We've talked about it
for the last couple of weeks as the uh, well,
the Cubs collapse happened. And now David Ross who gets
bounced and whatever his role becomes, or if he just
goes back into the broadcast booth or just into a
happy retirement, whatever the case may be. Change was inevitable
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in Chicago, and the assurances were that they were going
to try to build a powerhouse and go spend.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
They're gonna spend.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
They started right off the jump by spending a lot
on the manager. Hey guess what, it's a ninety mile
drive or about twenty minutes up and down in an airplane.
If that's what you need to do, If you need
to go back to Milwaukee for any business, personal meet
and greets, whatever, you can go and do that nice
(29:05):
and easily. So it's perfect. Right, you've seen the photoshop show.
Heyo Tani Cubs uniforms. Maybe he stays in Anaheim. Maybe
he's a Dodger. Maybe he can he goes to the
East Coast. All of that is possible. Cody Bellinger just
wants to get his giant pile of money. Scott Borris
will do his best to make sure that's the case,
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but he wants to be in Chicago. He's been pretty
adamant about that that he loved his time and what
they did. And after that collapse, they saw that they're
not that far away. And the team that came and
got them in the end, right at the photo finish
at the end, got to the World Series. So in Chicago,
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they're looking around and the Ricketts family printing money at
this point with all the businesses and everything going around
Wrigleyville and what you know, it's the greatest outdoor bar
in America. That they're ready to go and spend money.
And they showed it by committing such a large pile
of cash to Craig Counsel. That was the Hey, dark Knight,
(30:08):
there's all the money sitting there. Do we burn it
or do we give it to you? And now he's
got it, and so he goes and manages the Cubs because,
let's face it, you also want to step up in
class of your notoriety. You've been doing a good job
for Milwaukee. Unless you're a real baseball fan, nobody knows
who the hell you are. You're the manager of the Cubs,
like being the coach of notre to him or the
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Cowboys or whatever else. Yeah, everybody knows you. The spotlight's on,
and for Craig Counsel, maybe he wanted a little bit
of that light to shine after winning some manager of
the Year awards and everybody going, who's that he played shortstop?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Right?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I think I have a couple of rookie cards in
his con in that Commons box over there.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So that's why Craig Counsel is the Cubs manager and
it's everything.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Now. You want to go back and watch money Ball,
don't you? You did?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Oh? I'm gonna yeah, there's no question about it. Play
especially I want to sing that song.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Sure you're set to loser, Dad, Just enjoy the show.
Uh now, while you enjoy the stylings and sports of
Isaac Lohenkron with what's trending? What do you got? Ilo? Well,
I thank you.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Will stir with the latest college football playoff rankings. Jason
and Mike released this evening Ohio state number one, followed
by Georgia, Michigan, and Florida state. Washington number five. Oregon
is number six. Speaking of Washington in Major League Baseball,
the Athletic reports that the Los Angeles Angels are interviewing
Ron Washington tonight for their managing job. Washington won two
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American League pennants with the Texas Rangers when he managed
them from two thousand and seven through twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Hey, playing first base is easy, tell him Washed, It's
incredibly hard. Good pull there by the way, you want
me to play first base for Giambi? What about the fans? Yeah,
maybe I can get one of the fans. Good one.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's incredibly hard.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
The NFL multiple outlets support the Los Angeles Rams, citing
free agent quarterback Carson Wentz to back up Matthew Stafford.
Stafford miss last Sunday's loss at Green Bay because of
a sprained right thumb. Finally, some new developments in a
story we brought to you earlier. Philadelphia Eagles center Jason
Kelsey will be featured along with the likes of Lenny
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Kravitz and Usher, in this year's People magazine Sexiest Man Alive.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Issue.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Well, since we last brought that story to you, reaction
is pouring in from all corners. Tatum posting and I quote,
wtf If he could be a finalist, so could I.
Zven contributing and I quote this is three out of
ten of the guys who walk into the gas station
near where I hunt. Lol. Anthony posting, bro really got
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that Dad build. And finally another individual commenting and I quote,
beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Dot dot dot.
That comment from Kelsey himself fellas back to you.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Very nice.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I love so tweet at him. Smith Ilo get a response.
You'll be Internet famous.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Exit out vouta fresca exit swollen dome. Jason Smith Mike
Harmon Live from the tire rag dot com studios. Coming
up next, a zany update on the biggest football story
of the past couple of weeks. With every passing day,
I don't know how this gets insane more insane, but
it does.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
That's next right here. Fox. You're such a loser, Dad,
You're such a loser. Dad. Justin enjoy the show.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
What is?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
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Speaker 4 (33:55):
He's Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byern.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
We have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I
Want Your Flex. Twice a week, every Tuesday and Friday,
we come up with new episodes to not only look
back at what happened, what you need to do at
that minute, and also look ahead of what's coming up
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Speaker 4 (34:14):
That's right, Dan.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
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the pickups to turbot boost your fantasy lineup, sit starts,
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Five second Carlton Dance Party. It's not unusual.
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Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
You know, if John Wick was loved, maybe, you know,
maybe maybe it'd be different.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
The Michigan sign stealing scan just gets more bizarre every day. Yeah,
story today that Connor Stallions was in court. He was
the coach that is accused of stealing the signs that
we've been talking about for the last few weeks, Michigan
illegally stealing signs and recording them. Was in court and
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had a case this is this is a while ago
with someone and he said the reason he was in
court against this person is because he's a Michigan State
fan who just wanted to make make him unable to
make Michigan great again. That's why I'm making against me,
because he wants to stop me from making Michigan grade again.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Well, you know the old rule of representing yourself. You've
watched it enough law and order.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Oh my goodness. He just wants Michigan to lose.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And I'm every minute I'm in this court, you are
wasting my time, judge, because Michigan could be better.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
And I'm sitting here talking to you quote.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I suspect that whoever has chosen to assume me either
one doesn't like the fact that I'm a veteran or
two is a Michigan State fan and knows I'm a
Michigan football coach and wants to draw my attention away.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
So there's the bizarreness of this. First of all, I
can't believe this is a guy that Michigan on some
level and trusted to steal signs.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
This guy, the guy.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Wrote a six hundred page manifesto about how I'm gonna
take over the Michigan.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Football is gonna make it great again.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
He was in court and this happening. Still this is
our guy. But it's just this is the perfect guy. No,
it's not the perfect because nobody's gonna believe anything.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
It's like if he comes forward and says I was
the mastermind of all it, HAN say, that guy's insane.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Really need do I need to say anything more than
plausible deniability?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
That's all I need. That's my man.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Was in court going after Jeff down the streets.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Now, on the heels of that report, today, Michigan has
sent documents to the Big Ten that says they believe
three conference teams engaged in communication about the Wolverine signals
last year. So Michigan says that Rutgers, Ohio State, and
Purdue shared information with each other about what Michigan signs were.
It's a conspiracy, right, And what do I always say?
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I can't fault a great strategy. With the NCAAA and
the hammer coming down on Michigan. What have they done
in the last few days. They have now muddied this
thing up and now it's hey, you think we were
stealing signals. We know that other people were stealing signals.
There's a report Ryan Day had a private investigator to
try to figure out Michigan signals and everything is so craze.
(37:40):
Now it's which way is up?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Right? Like, I don't know, I don't know where to
go right now? Now the strategy is to just let's just.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Blind everybody with craziness and sign stealing. It's not just us,
it's other teams. What are we going to do? How
are we going to win this? We're going to confuse
the hell out of people. And right now even see
the NCAA sort of backing off a little bit. Well,
maybe Harbaugh's gonna get a suspension. This is what we're hearing.
Maybe it's something from Michigan, but they're gonna appeal, and
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we want to give Michigan a chance to really stand
up and defend themselves here. And it's all because look
at all this information out there. Oh, you think we're
stealing signals, everybody else is stealing signals, and here's another story,
and we're gonna get something every single day now, because
when this happens, this is what stops the wheels of justice,
all the panic and all of the questioning, Wait a minute,
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are we really following the right story? Do we have
to follow this story? Do we have to follow the
report about Rutgers in Ohio State and Purdue? Do we
have to go talk to those schools? And this is
how Michigan's gonna try to win this thing. And by
win this thing, I mean be able to win this
win the Big Ten, and be eligible to go and
play for the national championship. This is their strategy. We're
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going to confuse the hell out of you and make
everybody think that there's a lot of craziness. And that's
how we're going to stay alive until the NCAA finally
soort through everything and figures out an answer.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Well, the other part, right when you're if you're looking
for the conference itself to to come up with some
sort of punitive action, guess what they benefit from Michigan
being in the top four. I mean they're not going
to act swiftly, rashly, whatever without a ton of appeals
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and process, due process. As the letter from the head
of Michigan came through right supporting Harbaugh. And it always
comes back to this. It doesn't matter what I believe.
It only matters what I can prove. So don't tell
me what I know or don't know. I know the law.
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That's where we're at. It's either that or you go
back to you know, with all respect Matthew Perry, if
I'm going down, I've taking all of you with me,
and that's really more appropriate for the situation at hands.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Well.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
We might have done something wrong, but I have proof
that that guy and that guy, and then you got
to sort that out and corroborate or dismiss those charges
at allegations. Yeah, it's just a mess.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
See, I just want to play should we or should
we not? Funnel the advice of the galactically stupid? Now,
that's because that's what this story is. It's the galactically
gatically stupid. Coming up next, we have more from college football,
the latest on the college football playoff pol and we
ask a big, big question that's next right here, Jason
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