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November 8, 2023 50 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon talk shop on the Cowboys panicking after the recent loss. Jason and Mike also wonder about Aaron Rodgers and how long a fortnight is. Plus, the guys ask Alex about Blake Martinez and his Pokémon card collection.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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on the show. You have a big moneyball topic to
get to in a few minutes on the show. On
the twentieth anniversary of Elf.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
How do you think Billy Bean and Buddy would get along?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Ooh, Billy movie movie Billy Bean not well book Billy Bean. Yes,
I'd get along. Well, okay, yeah, they'd be fine. Well,
Moneyball would be a different movie if instead of Jonah
Hill he went to get Buddy the Elf to be
his you know, the guy that teach him about Moneyball.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, I mean he had a good arm. He could
have gone gotten out of that staff and been part
of that pitching rotation. They didn't talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Carlos. You've been traded to the Tigers. Oh so wonderful.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
You're gonna get to play with tigers and they're gonna
roar and they're gonna what do you think about muskrats?
He can have them for dinner, boy, And these little hamburgers.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
You can eat him, buy the sack.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
They're delicious.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
But the day after for the Jets loss to the
La Chargers has brought another full slate of craziness and controversy. Now, first,
let me just say this, because I know you're wondering.
I'm much better today than I was last night. You
were not well, lest I was not good, not great, Bob,
I was not great.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, there was a there was a moment where it
really started to fall apart. Yeah. No, And psychologically, I
think I think there was a slight break if we
checked your brain scan when uh my man, what does
he come in at like three point fifty on the
defensive line was trying to squat down and pick up
the ball flat footed instead of diving on it.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Michael Clemens. Yeah, thank you, Michael Clements, thank you, thank
you for thank you for reminding me of that one
play that absolutely killed the Jets.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Well, no, thank you, But we could go back and
rewind the tape.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
You looked like Ralph Wigan have to have the tape
and back to me. I know, y have to have
that happen, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
But we can do that. I mean that you want
to talk about a video promo, ty shure. You guys
do video too, Yeah, we do. Yeah. If we could
do that and cut that with maybe John Wick, uh
you know, kind of narrating the demise of Jets fan
Jason Smith in studio there in that Week nine defeat,
that would be great.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
So down, uh Aaron Rodgers return to the Jets got
ramped up following we played it for you last night.
When Rand to Derwin James after the game and Derri
jameson when are you coming back? And he said, ah,
a couple of weeks, A couple of weeks, A couple
of weeks.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, at least he didn't say about the time you
get hurt.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Oh see, that would have been That's bad karma, man,
that's bad karma. That would have been that. Then Denny
would have got hurt again. Why would you James can't
stay on the field, man, Why would you do that
to him?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh? I just thought it would have been a snappy
comeback from Aaron Rodgers related to it.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
But Dorwin, James is kind of being nice to him,
so he.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Was, even though I was really enjoying beating up on
your undersuit.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, one of you coming, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll have
been out for a month. By the time I'm coming
back door, Matt, your season will be over for a while. Man,
it's gonna be opposite. You're gonna be the guy in
the T shirt and shorts and I'm gonna be the
guy coming off the field. So he says, I'm coming
back in a couple of weeks. Whoao, A couple of weeks,
A couple of weeks. Whoa, whoa, whoa. And you know
this is what's got me excited a little bit more

(04:19):
than a better mood going Okay, four and four, the
Jets offense is absolutely terrible. No need to go into
that again after last.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Night the Jets offense points.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I know that I said. When I say no need
to go into it means just no need to go
into it.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
In case people missed it, we need to specificity the
number of point.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
And you know me, I want to get I want
to be positive and maybe last night was the final
wake up call for Zach Wilson and the Jets. And
there's gonna be changed. I can always hope there's gonna
be changed, right, can always? You always?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
The line I sent you from Robert slam meeting the
media earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you want to bring that
to me?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Want you? It's your line? God, you bring it ye.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Robert Salo was asked about the fact that you've got
practice squad quarterback Trevor Simeon, so he was on the
Michael k Show. Quote, you got Trevor Simeon in your building,
with an NFL veteran with starting experience, why not give
him a try? Robert Salah. His answer, I got you again,

(05:19):
fair question, Like I said, I don't know, I'm gonna
plead the fifth on this one. In terms of just
I kind of explained it respectfully. Obviously they're valid questions
I know from a passionate fan, from fans who are passionate,
all having the same questions. I respect it greatly, passionate fans,
fans who are passionate.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
In other words, I have no answers, Like I said
last night, no answers. And I know it's not Woody
Johnson saying play Zach Wilson because Woody Johnson wants to win.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Man.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's like, you know, like I said, I could just
hope that this is the last wake up call and
the Jets are going to allow him to throw the
football downfield. They'll do something to get better receivers on
the field because the guys out there outside of seventeen
all stink. So I got to hope, right, So want
to be positive and Rogers coming back a couple weeks,
A couple of weeks, Well wait, what's a couple of weeks?
Is it Thanksgiving? Is it right after Thanksgiving? When's it

(06:12):
going to be? Who are we to see first, Santa
Claus or Aaron Rodgers, Well, Aaron Rodgers million dollar Aaron
Rodgers went on the Pat McAfee show earlier today on ESPN,
and he explained how long he thinks it will be
until he is back on the field.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
He came over dapping me up during during the game,
and good to see him after the game. I didn't
realize that was going to get caught there. I mean,
obviously that was said with a little tongue in cheek there.
It'd be nice to be able to be back in
a couple of weeks. That's probably not anywhere near a
realistic timeline, but a couple is, you know, it could
be be a few, could be a lot of It's

(06:46):
more of a phrase that didn't have a specific timetable,
but I said, it's smiling joking, you know. He was
talking about how you know he's excited for me to
get back on the field. At some point I joked
it would be a few weeks, but obviously it's gonna
be more than a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
So a couples to a few three ye a rush
bars four?

Speaker 5 (07:06):
All right, Yeah, I'm just saying it's gonna be it's
gonna be a few, it's gonna be a few, a
few fortnights, It'll be a few fortnights.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I just love that he used the word fortnight.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
So see I bawling December seventeenth, Hi, fortnight.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
For you the fosa Hi right Ton has quarterback of
the New York Jets, and two fortnights from now we
need on the battlefield.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, but how do you not just ask him explicitly
when are you gonna be back in a New York groove?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
M I think he answered. I think he answered, dude.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
December seventeen against the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Now, a couple of fortnights is a month, because a
fortnight is two weeks. Because I'm sorry, I got to
explained to millennials and Generation Z what a fortnite is
because they just think it's a video game. No, a
fortnit is a period of two weeks, which is how
in old English times people would use time.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
We need turn in time.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
We need to survive the next four night before we
can attack the enemy under cover of night the fortnight. Yes, yes, yes, yes, fortnite.
So it'll be a few fortnights. For Aaron Rodgers, it
was well nine nights the fortnight.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
We need costume, we need a costume budget. We need
to work on that.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I will support Zach of Wilson until the time in
two fortnights from now where I hitherto return. Throw the
jets lineup on the field on top my mighty steed
and Lance.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, as soon as you get a mighty steed into
the mix, I mean, now you just well, I mean
we were just at Santa Anita. We could have done
this whole bit in front.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Of a paddock. I didn't know he was gonna say
fortnite until today. I know you know what.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I saw some practice video from Delmar. You ready to
drive to Delmark to do the bit. Let's stick to
the bit. I'll get you one of those big fluffy
collars like Shakespeare was always a picture is wearing, and
we'll go from there.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Call the Mason. Haven't prepared my colors. They are now
green and white as I read died on battle.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yes I'm fin Wait wait, wait, now you're going to
uh on me to a freedom medieval times and you're
the green Knight.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
If we can postpone the attack against the pirates in
a week from now, the one eyed Pirates and my
black and hello, I am able to lead my men
on the field again. Change my colors to green and white.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
This is really escalating. I like this, this is good.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
You could just see Aaron Rodgers as a night. He's
gonna right down the horse cliplop clip clod.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Hey, Hey, it's the price, is right, He'll commit to
the bit. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Uh now, the other part of this now, because now, look, Rogers,
I'm gonna say, I'm thinking in a month. I'm thinking
he's back in a month. A couple of weeks is
a little bit too soon. In a month sometime before Christmas,
he will be back sometime in early December. Now, with
this timeline out there, there was a couple of big
conspiracy theories going on on the internet earlier today. I

(09:55):
know somebody's on the Dan LeBatard podcast saying that he
thinks may Aaron Rodgers never tore his achilles, dude, and
that said no, no, and I.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
And all those guys that said it like we had
weeks ago, we were knowing too fought nights and.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Uh now the here's as far as I'll go, because
this is what I I If you're telling me, boy,
this could really be some kind of insane recovery no
one's ever had. Maybe, And this is this is how
far all go, because there's no way he didn't sustain
a serious achilles injury. There's no way. I mean, it
would be a conspiracy. Theory that he didn't tear his

(10:37):
achilles would be just too much, right, Conspiracy theories work
the less people that know about them. And you're talking
about the entire Jets organization. Rogers, his teammates, they all know.
They all like that, they all know, they're all the
doctors are all that. There's no way you keep a
complete Why would you Why would you make why why
would you even try to hide the fact that it's

(11:00):
an achilles to Because if he didn't tear his achilles, great,
he's rehabbit, he's coming back. There's no win. Like, there's
no win by saying I didn't tear my achilles, Now
look at me come back, because you'd have to have
thought about this ahead of time. Going don't say anything.
I'm gonna make it seem like I'm coming back fro
an injury unlike anybody else in the history of mankind.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, he just might be an evil genius.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
No, look on brand. Oh, it's completely on brand. Roger
is the one guy that I would say, Hey, who's
going to pretend they're coming back from a torn achilles.
It didn't really happen. That's Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I have no doubt he sustained a big injury just
from a if it was legitimately a terror. I think
as a society that breaks down film and with all
the pickleball injuries and insurance claims that are that are
rolling up about Achilles and everything else popping across this nation,
I think we need a full on documentary. Forget about

(11:52):
the dolphins, give me that for hard knocks man, the
first consultation, the scans, the you have assignment, the surgery,
give me it all, man.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I know there's there's there's no way to hide any
of those facts. That's why it's really tough to say, oh, yeah,
he didn't really tear his claes, mainly because a like
I said, there's no win in saying oh, it's not
really torn achilles, that it would be great. It's an
injury and he's coming back at some point, there's no
great thing for it. Now in retrospect you can say, well,
here he is now is some kind of with some

(12:24):
kind If he's coming back from that, he seems superhuman. Okay,
But but remember.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
He's like, it's a bad guy in silent reads.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
It's got to get through a lot of people to
keep this out there. And if if if that was
the case, I think we would have known by now.
But where as far as I'll go with this is
that I wouldn't doubt if once they got inside to
look at him, doctor Neil Latrosha was in there. I
wouldn't doubt if once they got in there they saw
that maybe it wasn't as and it's in the first

(12:53):
initial reports were a complete tear. But maybe it's just
I mean, I'm not a doctor, but the best way
I can go is to say, maybe once they got inside,
the damage wasn't as irreparable or as difficult to repair
as it normally is because from some medical reason that
I don't know about, because you know, I'm not a doctor.
So that I wouldn't doubt that if Hey, we went

(13:13):
and we sewed you up, and the doctor said to
Aaron Rodgers, hey it's good, Hey it wasn't as it
wasn't as bad a complete tear something like that that
I could see, where hey, yeah, achilles injury torn achilles butt.
Not every injury is created equal and maybe there's a
little bit of an advancement now where hey, because of
this tear was the way it was. I can, I can.
I can do this and make make your rehab a

(13:35):
little bit faster on it. But I wouldn't doubt if
there was something inside that maybe it wasn't as bad
as a complete tear. It's gonna be a year. We'll
see you at camp hopefully in July. If you're moving around, well,
that I wouldn't doubt. But to make it up now,
there's no way it's made up there Well, as a guy.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Who's who's made arguments and claim to fame in the
world outside of sports is that people have made stuff
up and conspired, and there's a lot of them that
have done it. Maybe he's just trying to do the
same thing. To go to the bulk conspiracy, as you say,
a bunch of people would have to be in on it.
Maybe he's trying to show that's not so hard. But no,

(14:12):
like he would not want a miss games. He's thirty
nine years old, the clock is ticking on his career.
He forced the Jets to bring on all his buddies.
He was ready for a party and with Breise Hall
and Garrett Wilson. You know, I say all of this,
you know, half tongue in cheek, but it does fit

(14:34):
his persona that you know somewhere in the devil, the
devil in the details. I don't know that we've been
told nearly everything that's going on. Again, I just want
to know because if he's really recovering this fast right
from from what we were told that initial injury was,
I mean, it's modern science, you know, on its next

(14:57):
level right here with him being the prototype. But we've
seen guys come fast back fast. Remember the last guy
we were celebrating for coming back really fast was Cam Akers.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Oh wow, too soon for instruct by lightning? Dude?

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Was I wrong?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
No, but you're still gonna say you can still Mere
not gonna get intruck by lightning.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I'm just telling the truth. I'm the truth telling around here.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Lightning is gonna find a way. It's gonna strike the
top of your house. It's gonna get all the way
down and just you in the chair, that's what's gonna
happen to you.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
And that'll be Jamie Fox and the Amazing Spider Man
too running around that. I'll be Max.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
You know Harmon's electro. Really yeah, what happened? I he really?
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Speaker 1 (16:18):
I said it was gonna be that kind of night.
Apparently it's gonna be that kind of night.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Smith, How late do you think they were up cooking
this thing up? And what were they cooking up? There's
the only.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Dark side is this Alex Ty shirt. You're gonna have
to explain to our voice guy why he didn't work
this week and not didn't get paid. I'm gonna have
to explain that to him.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeahop's gonna be mad, So I'll.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Let you know. That's okay. I wanna let you know.
It means time off. Are you sure about that? Absolutely?
I don't get paid if I don't speak when I'm
not fighting. I'm vibing Fox Sports Radio the Jason Smith
Show with my best friend. His name is Mike Harmon.

(17:05):
And it's panic Tuesday in the NFL. Here some teams
making some moves to may some decisions. It's panic, panic, panic, panic.
Don't worry, we'll get to Aaron Rodgers and the fortnights
before he returns as quarterback of the Jets. But a
complete panic move today. And this goes along with the
mentally fragile existence that is the Dallas Cowboys. Every time

(17:30):
we've talked about the Cowboys all season long, right, the
Cowboys so mentally fragile. They come into the season, they're
all fired up. They couldn't wait till go play the
Giants open the week, they crushed them forty to nothing.
They come back home, they beat the crap out of
the Jets. They look like the best team in the NFL.
They go on the road and they lose to Arizona,
and it's Jerry Jones on the radio sing everything is fine.

(17:51):
We didn't hear we had a little bit of a
flat thing. Okay, okay, And they go and they beat
the crap out of New England. Everything is great. Then
they get small by the forty nine ers forty two
to tenants. Help him make some moves here at the
deadline and news that don't worry. Don't worry nowhere. There's
nothing the Cowboys can do to hide the fact that

(18:11):
they're just not as good as the other big teams
in the NFC. But they're gonna keep trying. And today
was the latest example. They lose this weekend and they
lose to the Eagles, a game where they wanted this game.
Jerry Jones even quiet for the week we want this game,
we want this game, and they lose. So what happens
as a result, Hey, I want you guys to think

(18:33):
that you're all still a great team. So what do
the Cowboys do today? They go and they signed Mark
Davis Bryant. Guy hasn't been in the league in five years.
Is that difficulty has been out of the league and
now coming back in when he played he was good,
but again five years out of the league. This is
the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones saying, hey, I don't
want our guys to go into Turtle and think that

(18:54):
they stink and they're not any good. So let's do
something that makes them think that, hey, we're really not that,
but we just need a little bit more. We need
a guy that hasn't played in the league in five years.
That's what we need now. That's gonna get us past
the forty nine ers and get us by Philadelphia, And
if we have to play Josh Dobbs again, we're gonna
wind up having to do We need this. This is
the Cowboys because they're so fragile mentally. This is that

(19:15):
move where hey, we got to pick you guys up
off the mat again and prop you up and tell
you how great you are. Like we always have to
tell Dak how great he is, Like we always have
to have guys out doing podcasts saying hey, we're good,
we just didn't do this, or we have to. All
of this continues on with the Cowboys because they're so
fragile mentally. But after every loss, you can't just come
back and say, well, here's how I'm gonna fix it

(19:36):
with some kind of move. It's something we didn't have.
We didn't have this, now we have it. Really, but
that's exactly what the Cowboys do. And you can't live,
you can't exist when you are trying to prop yourself
up and you don't really believe that you're a super
Bowl team. Because the Cowboys wouldn't continually do this if
they really thought they were great. They know they're not.
They know that all the big tests they've had so

(19:58):
far in the last month they have failed. The two
best teams they have played, they have lost to. Right,
that's what goes on. That's what's happened with the Cowboys. Yet,
this is the latest of Jerry Jones trying to I
want to hide that I want to coddle the players.
I want to hold them like their babies and I
want to just cuckoo them and get them to go
back to sleep and stop crying and think everything is okay.
Because here's my move to try to deflect from that fact.

(20:20):
I'm going to go sign a guy who hasn't played
in the league in five years.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, there's a couple of parts to this. I mean,
obviously you know there are no moral victories, but they
seem to want to take one. In that loss to
the Eagles, you failed in so many respects. When you
talk about time management. Oh wait, that's a Mike McCarthy
Hallmark right. His picture is there in the coaching dictionary.

(20:44):
Who's the best at showing us how poorly you can
manage a clock? That guy who's the worst and finishing
red zone offensive sequences in crunch time? That guy sense
of urgency, possession after possession. I mean, he's there and
now they're taking him. And it's really Mike McCarthy as

(21:06):
Kevin James doing that picture that has showed up everywhere
in the last couple of weeks. So you have that
with Dak had a great game except when it mattered.
Tony Pollard can't run the football. We talked about the
trade deadline and the moves that they should have been making,
the players they should have been looking at didn't do
any of it. Now you got McCarthy getting testy, and

(21:26):
I love the fact that this is the year in
college and pros that everybody has just decided I don't
give a blank and I'm gonna either curse at you,
staring you down, go Dabo Sweeney on you, all of
those things, and yell at guys on the phone calling
into a call in show, Mike McCarthy asked about Brandon Cooks, who,
let's face it, folks are like, all right, fantasy football,

(21:49):
fire him up number two to seedee lamb. He's on
a pace for a career worst season. Quote. Don't play
fantasy football. We have game plans. I think it's important
and this is a challenge for our guys because our
system is built on making the quarterback successful. Okay, quarterback

(22:10):
also needs to find his tight end who's become pretty
reliable when he's wide open streaking across the field, instead
of trying to force it to a guy who had
no catches coming into the game, which he did going
to the end zone. So all of that to say,
bringing in Martavis Bryant another great example of the Josh

(22:32):
Gordon school of you know, you have a pretty good
opportunity here, lay off the weed. I mean, we had
Alex's famous award winning parody song that we sang for
years on the program that you know, just stay away
and you can get back on the field and do
great things and might he be the greatest reclamation project ever? Sure,

(22:56):
but what are the odds of that. I'm sure we
can find someone in Vegas to lay them for us
in the interim. You failed your tests. It's like the
Miami Dolphins on the other side, where we propping them up.
Every time they face somebody good, they fail. And for
the Cowboys, this is now what thirty years thirty years
of this type of ebb and flow, and Jerry Jones

(23:20):
and McCarthy's doing everything he can to tap dance around
any problems that they've had, which is laughable because guess what,
You're on National bleeping TV to ninety nine percent of
the world every week. There's no running in hiding if
you've got a cowboy star on your helmet.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Here's what I want the Cowboys to do. This is
this is this would serve the Cowboys so well. I
want the Cowboys to just shut up. Everybody shuts up,
the players, there's no podcast, Jerry Jones is not on
the radio. Everybody shuts up. You call it zero dark landry.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
That's way. Wait, fan, what will they do Conteah.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
They'll they'll they'll pay Aaron d They'll pay some of
Aaron Rodgers Pat McAtee money to get Aaron Rodgers on
in Dallas. People will love to listen to that. Go
zero Dark, we'll call it zero Dark Landry. Just everybody
shut up. Don't tell me how great you are. Don't
tell me how great you think the team is. Don't
tell me the excuses that you have coming up. Don't
don't tell me that, hey, we just need a little bit.

(24:21):
Don't keep telling me you're a super Bowl team when
you're losing. When you don't, the last thing you need
is to be told how great you are after you
lose games. Everybody in Dallas needs to be quiet and
go play football. And you got to do this over
the course of the back half of the season. Now
can they do it? Of course not, because they're the Cowboys.
They can't. They can't help it. We always have always
got to do it right, Yeah, always right. They just

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love to do it, and they love But Jerry Jones
could do an interview and not talk about, hey, I
want to make sure I prop the team up, and
podcast can go out and not say well, we just
need to do this and then this and this was
made personal. No, you guys are an okay football team.
All Right, you guys are five. There's lots of five
and three teams in the NFL. Right, The Jets were
a couple of offensive touchdowns away from being five and

(25:06):
three in their offense. Thinks out loud, you're five and three.
You're just okay. The biggest tests you have had this
year you've lost. You've lost. You haven't beaten anybody who's
really good. I mean, anybody who's really good. The two
best teams you have played, Elle to San Francisco, El
to Philadelphia. You're okay. Be quiet. Don't sit here and
tell me how. Hey, we think we're a super Bowl team.

(25:27):
Because they love to talk and they love to have
that attitude, just shut up and go play football. I'd
love to see it. I'd love because it would serve
them so well, and it would be'd be so much
better off because they would have that mental toughness that
they just lack. Because they don't have the mental toughness
because when things get really tough, you see what happens.
They fall apart and they find a way to say, well,

(25:48):
there's a reason why we lost this game. Up, there's
no responsibility when the day after a loss, Jerry Jones's
I I'm gonna go get another wide receiver for us. Really,
Mark Tavith the.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Guy, I'm not a guy who's been on a run.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
No, no, no, no, I'm gonna get it by five years, right,
because that's what Jerry Jones does. I'm gonna throw a
dart at people, you know, drafting guys in the second
round who are character issues around talent. It's all, it's
all he tries to do. And the Cowboys don't understand
that they lack that mental toughness that they had it
sometimes in games in the first two weeks of the season. Boy,

(26:21):
they had it and then they lost it. And you
can't just turn it on and off. You have to
find it as a mentality, as a way you go
about your business. And the Cowboys just can't do it.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
They could shut up. If they could be quiet, we
would not hear about the Cowboys, and they would get
fined every week, and no one's talking. And Jerry Jones
is paying the fines out of his own pocket, saying,
I'd big got one hundred grand a week that I'm
paying for guys, it's okay that I would love I
would love to see the cow because then I would
take the Cowboys seriously. But it's hard when this is
this is the reaction is just no, no, no, no.
Nobody think we're a bad team. Anybody to think we're

(26:52):
a bad team. We're still good. We just have to
do these couple of things to make us better. And
maybe it's bringing Roger Stauback back to when he was young,
and we can clone him and put him out there,
and we put Ai Michael Irvin out there and Ai
Emitt Smith out there. Maybe that's what we need. But
we can do that at some point. That's the guy.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Just start away with the strike to end.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I know, I know, And it doesn't look that's gonna
happen either for a while.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
So we're gonna But it's funny as you were you
were laying that out and just saying shut up. I
started thinking about the meaning of life, the Grim Reaper,
the Great Monty Python, Skitch, shut up, you American. You Americans.
All you do is talk and talk and say let
me tell you something, or I just want to say, well,

(27:34):
shut up, you're dead. And that's kind of where we're
at talking about the Cowboys. But they do have a chance.
So over the next three weeks, you have a game
against the Giants sixteen and a half point favorites, I think, uh.
And then you play the Panthers the following week, probably
the same kind of line, although that one's on the road.
And then you've got the Washington Commanders, the plucky Washington

(27:58):
Commanders and Sam Howell before well, the Seahawks and your
guy Gino Smith has regressed terribly. But then we get
to December and this is a fantasy owners beware game
against the Eagles home game, game on the road at
the Bills, no idea what they are at this point,
on the road at the Dolphins, and then the Lions

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show up.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's a tough ass gauntlet, Dallas.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
That's a four straight games. And then you end the
season with the Commanders on the road.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Tag tough ass gauntlet for the Cowboys, that's like that,
be mentally strong, shut up for the next month, be
mentally strong for it. But they can't do it. They
can't do it. I would take them seriously if if
I knew that every week we were gonna get the
Cowboys that they can be. The first two weeks of
the season, they looked like the most dangerous team in
the world. And I'm watching them play the Jets, and

(28:48):
I go, they're just playing downhill and every play can
go for a touchdown. They they they've played that way.
When you've played that way, you know you can do it.
You just can't sustain it because mentally you're not as
strong as you need to be.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Who's the running back equivalent to Martavis Bryant that they
can go get. There's your million dollar question right there.
Who's been out of the league a year or two?

Speaker 1 (29:12):
There's like, come on in, okay, Ladanian, Tomlinson, that's where
you go, Wow, go get lt Well.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I always lacked him when he was in college. You
you wait.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
The next thing is that we'll bring back des Bryant.
Just watch. That's it, Jerry. I got that in my
back pocket for December. We will get Dans and bring
him back.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I'll tell you what, I'll let him run some red
zone routes.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
I mean, if you're bringing back Martamas Bryant, why not
bring back Dez Bryant.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
I mean, really, why there's no wear a terror on now?
Martvas Bryant's thanks here, man. I mean, actually, how much
older is Dez? It ain't that much, is it? Oh? Ax?

Speaker 1 (29:50):
It out about a Fresca swollen down the Jason Smith
Show with my best run my carbon Cowboys could do that.
I could take him, seriously, can't until then?

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Wait? Wait, shutting up or des Oh no.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
No, they bring in Dez Brian. I'll give him mulligan
on that one.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
That's only a three year difference between Dez and Mark
Davis Bryan.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
What kind of difference is there between me and Isaac Lohencron.
We we'll find out right now. Is he's got what's
trending in the wide world of sports?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (30:18):
I could be so rude right now?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Should I do it? Mike?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
No?

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I mean I like it?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Number one, it's twenty four hours later. Okay, you like
being on the show. You like to talk?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, I like to breathe.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
He's in studio stearing you down.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Sound like I threatened people, although I'll tell what he
did do last night. I walked into the screening where
the editors are, yeah, and you know, they're all new,
and they're you know, trying to break and cut their
teeth in the business and everything. So I walk in
with the Jets losing by fourteen. I go Hey, you guys,
get this blankety blank game under control right now. I'll
find two editors who will and they look at me like,

(30:57):
uh like if they like if the Jets key losing,
I will have them fired. You get this game under
control right now? It's fourteen nothing. I don't want to
see that anymore. See see America.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
That's the kind of motivation and mentality their offense needs.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
And I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
By the way, des Bryant just had a birthday three
days ago, So birthday. Happy thirty fifth birthday to Dez Bryant.
The latest college football playoff rankings released this evening. Ohio
State number one, followed by Georgia, Michigan, and Florida State.
The Washington Huskies are fifth. Oregon is number six. Multiple
outlets report that Michigan is claimed with a Big Ten

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Conference that staff members at Ohio State, Rutgers, and Purdue
shared information about Michigan's signals before Michigan played Perdue in
the twenty twenty two Big Ten Championship game. Baseball, The
Athletic reports the Los Angeles Angels are interviewing Ron Washington
tonight for their managing job atfl Multiple outlets report, the

(31:56):
Los Angeles Rams signing free agent quarterback Carson Wentz Tobacco
Matthew Stafford. The Arizona Cardinals activated Kyler Murray to their
fifty three man roster. He's expected to start Sunday against Atlanta. Finally,
Jason and Mike. As if the name Kelsey has not
gotten enough publicity recently, People Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive issue

(32:18):
will be published soon, and one of the men featured
this year, along with the likes of Lenny Kravitz and Usher,
is none other then Jason Kelsey, not Travis, the magazine says,
and I quote, despite soaring fame from his New Heights
podcast with brother Travis and his prime video documentary the

(32:42):
Philadelphia Eagles Star Center, keeps it real as a husband
and father of three unquote. So there you go, one
of the sexiest men alive, Jason Kelsey.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
You want to wait for really the downfall of American society?
I thought that was it. Sorry, Jason, just eight or
so months from now, when all the baby's being born,
then they're all named Kelsey boys.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Girls.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Wait, do you see how popular Kelsey is a name?
This time next summer? Oh, we had a baby girl
We named her Kelsey. Oh, we had a boy. We
named him Kelsey.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Oh great, yeah, telling you young kids that are running
around the neighborhood. Just yeah, it'll multiply.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, just wait wait baby Kelsey's Thank you very much,
Isaac Low and Cron appreciate it, Buddy. The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Now, hey, if
the Cowboys are panicking with Martavis Bryant, what is what
is what the Rams did today? That coming up next
the return to the NFL from a long departed quarterback.

(33:45):
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Speaker 2 (33:48):
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bring the level of expertise that Alex Tischer can to
this sports story.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Me. He's a wizard.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
But the Lakers are mad? How mad are they? The
Lakers reached out to the NBA League office to express
their concerns over several perceived miss foul calls, particularly involving
Lebron James during their loss to the Heat last night
one seven and yeah, you see some of the replays
in some of these fouls, like boy Lebron got hacked. Boy,

(35:17):
oh Lebron, Wow, Lebron got it boy. They come with demos,
ripped the jersey off Lebron and there was no foul. Now, look,
there's games I've watched with the Lakers where I go, boy, oh,
they got they got the benefit out on that call.
I don't know about that. But the main thing, and
this is probably maybe one of the biggest I don't
want to say mysteries, but one of the more underreported

(35:39):
stories of the last twenty years in the NBA is
that Lebron James does not get the superstar calls that
we like to talk about, Oh, superstar call, there for
Dwayne Waite, a superstar call. There for superstar call. Lebron
just doesn't get the superstar calls. And it baffles me
because that's always how the NBA has been officiated. Magic
got the calls, Larry got the calls, Michael got the calls.

(36:01):
Other stars have gotten the calls. Kobe got the calls.
Shaq was put on the free throw line because like, well,
we could call him, he's not gonna make him. We
could put him on the free throw line. It's okay.
But the fact that Lebron has played the entirety of
his career and he doesn't get those, especially when he
drives the lane as much as he does. He's not
somebody that's gonna sit back or take a jumper in
traffic and no, he's gonna get to the lane and

(36:23):
get to the hoop. And it really is is it
steinies me that he hasn't gotten them And at no
point did he ever get to the point where referees Okay,
that's a call, Yes, a Superstar call, that's Lebron, that's Lebron.
It just never happened. And in a league where we
talk about officiating and we kind of scratch our head
and go, boy, the NBA wants to continue to grow

(36:43):
the game, and maybe you know, the NBA knows who
they're sending to officiate certain playoff games. How Lebron James
has never graduated to give Lebron all the calls because
every night he goes for thirty eight, sixteen, and twelve,
it's a great night for the NBA, and it's never
got to that point. And it's just it's it's something
that for twenty years, it just is so underreported and

(37:06):
not talked enough about.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, I mean there are circumstances whereby I think you've
seen some calls. You know, the Superstar continuation one going
all the way back to Magic Johnson has always baffled me,
like we get an extra couple of steps after some
you know guy slaps at the ball and then you
lay it up or dunk it, and it's like, wait,
that counts as continuation. I've always had an issue with that,

(37:32):
But certainly when you're bigger, faster, stronger, and the expectation
is that you're just running through guys and they're bouncing
off you. I mean, you've seen it at the kids level, right,
you coach your daughter's soccer games for years and watched
how kids get played and don't get calls because maybe
you get really jacked up, but you don't fall down. Right,

(37:56):
It's like, wow, you got fouled, well, but she didn't
hit the turf and start rolling around and looking for
a call. So you don't get it. We've gotten for
my daughter's team right now, they've got two kids that
refuse to go down, and she's one of them. Like
she may get absolutely rough dub, but she will hold
her ground. And it's like, well, how did you not
get the call? I'm like, dude, at some point you

(38:16):
got to take the gamble that the whistle will come
if you go to the turf and she won't do it.
But and with Lebron James. Some of it is the
same way. Right, Anthony Davis is on the ground, rolling
around after every bit of contact.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
He's going to the locker room. He's coming back.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
And I hope he's okay. I don't mean to make
light of it since he has, you know, the groin injury,
hip injury, whatever they're trying to call it at this point,
but the idea being that, you know, when he goes flying,
Lebron doesn't like he likes to stand and stare down
guys that tried to muscle up on him. So when

(38:52):
you do that consistently, it's no surprise you're not getting
a call. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Well, it's also hard because the guy, the guy is
built unlike any other pilla I'm seeing in the NBA. Yeah,
it's hard for him to go down. I think referees
to go Really, he knocked you down. Really, the guy
knocked you down, You guy, guy knocked right Now.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Now you're gonna get called for flopping and it's gonna
be a technical fall.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, knocked you down. Listen, I'm not I'm not six five,
one seventy five, all right, I'm a I'm a truck.
I'm you know, I go two fifty. You know, you
think two point fifty on a light night is what
I can go and I can still blaze through you,
so you know I get that part of it. But
still it's with Lebron James's at never at any point
did he not when he was younger, not when he

(39:30):
was established, not now that he's you know, in his
latter days in the NBA. I had no point did
he ever get the superstar calls?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
How about you do the conspiracy thing. They didn't want
him to catch Jordan at any point, start getting, you know,
even more points by being living at the free throw line.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
They're gonna start throwing him out of games. I didn't
do anything. I'm sorry you're out. I didn't like how
you stood there on the opening tip, but I didn't
say that I've done matter you stood there. You're very aggressive.
I'm throwing you out of the game.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Ladies and gentlemen, here for the ceremonial. First first tip
is Billy Crystal. But this is game seven. I'm sorry
you're out, Lebron saying it's the Western Conference Final. Just
send you to Cancun. One two three.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Coming up in ninety seconds. Judge Jury executioner Alex Ty
shirt on what it's about, Sime? You used my talents?
All right? Do you know who Blake Martinez is? Absolutely not? Okay,
you know who lead to Lappe? You do? I do
know lel Okay, Leeland de lap who works here. The
only guy I've ever seen wearing a Blake Martinez jersey. Yeah,
he's got a Green Bay Packers Blake Martinez jersey.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
You know this story tee shirt. You just don't think
you do? Ye?

Speaker 1 (40:39):
So, Blake Martinez was a linebacker for a long time
in the NFL, and he retired, but now he's coming
out of retirement to play for the Panthers. Wow, Okay, Okay,
there you go. Okay, it's it's I'm not up to
your expertise yet. I'm just setting the stage. That's so impressive.
So yeah, okay, sure. So he's twenty nine and he
retired a couple of years ago because he wanted to

(40:59):
start a Pokemon card business. He was gonna leave the NFL.
Didn't want to get hit anymore. You know, I was
ready to want to have his body and everything else.
I think I do know this guy. He went Okay,
so he went into the Pokemon card business, and he
made a lot of money on except earlier this year,
he has been permanently banned from a site where he

(41:20):
was selling his cards on. Yes, he sold his cards
on what Not, which is an online you know what
whatnot is? Yeah, I do drip. That's another one, all right.
Is that a real place?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yeah, it is a real place, all right, because Drip
watched his streams. Yeah, animated in very good.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Okay, Because usually I say drip is like wh in
a new bunch of hatstraw. Oh look at the drip off.
Or if you're flexing with a lot of jewelry, you
got a lot of drip on, okay. Or if I
don't close the faucet, I okay. So he's on what Not,
an online social marketplace that allows users to sell products
to each other. He was on there selling Pokemon cards.
He was banned because he was accused of scamming buyers

(41:56):
by selling cards and getting them out to people who
they say it wasn't the card I ordered, they were overpaying,
So he was potentially, according to this report here, allegedly
scamming people by making money and not producing the cards
he was supposed to.

Speaker 8 (42:15):
I also heard too, he was doing this guessing game
where people had to guess the next energy on the
card from the Pokemon packs, and he would switch the
packs out because he knew people would guess them, right too.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Oh it was a really big scandal, right, Okay, all right,
so now here's the question for you. Number one on
a scale of one to ten, one being it's not
that big a deal. Everybody doesn't like stealing signs in
college football. Ten being whoa, this is the worst thing
we're getting rid of draft picks like Spygate. Where is
this story? Now that you know, Blake Martinez, you know this,

(42:45):
How bad is this story in the in the gaming community,
in the sports gaming community? How big a deal? I
would say, out of one through ten AND's of fifty?
What really?

Speaker 8 (42:56):
This is probably the most heinous thing you could do
as a card sellers.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Something that's happening a lot in the sports cards over there.

Speaker 8 (43:02):
Because think about it, Jason, it's you're based on trust
and somebody coming to you for the goods of merchandising
and giving them the fair availability to pull these cards
they're searching for.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Right.

Speaker 8 (43:14):
Here's the trick, though. He came out with the game
where you actually have to pay a little bit more
for each pack that you have to guess for these
certain type of energies and if you guess them, you
win like these extra bonus prizes or whatever it is.
But he cheated the system. So like if I said,
what's it end, give me an energy. So for example,
there's like grass, water, fire, lightning stone.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
If I say grass and it was grass, he would
replace it with water, and yeah, how you.

Speaker 8 (43:37):
Didn't win because he would buy a case of Blister packs,
which are single, individually box packs over like a Booster
which has thirty six packs in it, so that's random.
But boosters there's a set rotation in every single blister,
so he knew he would switch them as soon as
somebody was catching on to it.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
So this is like if Harmon's selling cards, which is
what he does, and he says, hey, if you guess
the White Sox player that I have in this, you'll
get an extra something And I say, oh, I know
it's ron Kittle, and the answers ron Kittle, and Harmon
switched it says no, the answers ron carkabis, Yes, got it.
Here's the bigger thing like that someone would do that.

Speaker 8 (44:11):
It is card counting right at as a casino, so
you know how people card count.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
It's frowned upon.

Speaker 8 (44:16):
Sure it is, yes, yeah, you can get real big
trouble for the sure right right, the households win.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Are your left hand too.

Speaker 8 (44:24):
Mike knows this too. If you're selling on these third
party sites, you're already charging people well over MSRP. So
say like, these packs are two bucks, three bucks in
a store three bucks. He's charging five to six bucks
for these packs. So he's already winning. And then he
goes to the extreme and cheats the people. That's like
playing blackjack and they take two aces out of the set.
That's crazy. So he's over billing like in the firm. Yes,

(44:46):
he's doing a lot of bad things.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
So you got profit, but also the scam, right, this
has happened to a bunch of guys have been caught
doing this for Pokemon, for sports cards, whatever. It's like, well,
we didn't get the big insert out of that. It's
wait a minute, go back and check the videotape. Yeah
you did, but you lied to the guy or you
send something out and it's like, well where's that hit?
I got? Right? You bid on some of the stuff

(45:10):
that's you bid on teams.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Well wait a minute, but how can how can you
hide the answer if like you have to see the
answer on video right and go, hey, here's.

Speaker 8 (45:17):
The So that's the big thing that happened against him.
There was people that had video evidence of him reaching
back and like fumbling with the blister.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
It's but it's playing games with how your cameras are
set up. Oh onond the visibility of what you're doing
on camera versus off Like, hey, I open a pack
and you can kind of scan through it real quick
to see what's in there, and meanwhile you've taken out
an insert and replaced it with something else, like, oh,
look at that. You just got this, you know, low level.

(45:46):
I don't want to disparage any individual player, but hey,
here's a Jimmy Garoppolo twenty twenty three insert. Instead it
was a Patrick Mahomes one per case thing that should
have been you know, received or whatever the case is.
And there's enough video evidence to show that you're pulling
this chicanery, uh and switching stuff out off camera, So.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
So you could be like he could be on camera
and talking and gesturing with his right hand while he's
kind of moving. You see is his left arm is
off camera grabbing.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
He's grabbing from another stack of inserts to fill underneath. Yeah,
it's it's all sorts of stuff. It's all slight of
hand crap, like you're watching the magicians in Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Jayson jo deep.

Speaker 8 (46:27):
This is he was draining people who worked for him
to do the same things.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Crazy. Wow, Wow, how allegend it's wild?

Speaker 8 (46:35):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Okay? Wow?

Speaker 8 (46:37):
And that sucks as somebody who sells cards. That's like
an outlet for people who aren't as privy or lucky
as we are. Because me and Micro in California, Mike,
you remember how we went to Frankinson's the collectibles. Yeah,
a lot of people don't have that ability, so people
they have to go online to find these packs.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
And then you're literally stealing from people.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
It's crazy because there was a big deal. Like back
in the day, you know, several years ago, it was
pretty easy to go to any Walmart, any Target, whatever,
and there'd be packs. And now they're starting to show
up again. But you know, the quality the ones that
you're looking for aren't necessarily there, and you may not
have a hobby shop, so you buy into these breaks
or you go online and it's just a place to

(47:14):
hang out, right, you know, night out with your friends,
and then you come home it's like, hey, these guys
are online. They're kind of fun. And then you buy
into some of these breaks because there's a community that
collects the same thing you do. And then you got
guys that are scamming people like he allegedly did and
so many others that have been banned from these sites,

(47:34):
and they go site to site hoping that they're not caught. Right,
they go into TikTok and change up the terminology because
there's certain parts of these things that are banned. Like
it's it's a whole whole other thing.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
All right, tycher, So, being judge jury executioner, should he
be executed? Should he be excommunicated? Should he be banned?
What's your what's the ruling? Well, I've thought long and
hard about this, Jason, I've consulted with my accomplice. Here.
Can I ask him real quick?

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (48:01):
Go ah, all right, John? What do you think he
should be exiled? We should send him back to football?
I think that's his Oh you're not.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
You're not giving him the guillotine like you talk about
the guillotine.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Leave no guillotine. Apparently he's gonna go back.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
To Well, he's got to go earn some more money
to pay off any damages and create a new LLC
that he can't go Wait.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Wait, you think he's gonna because he could get activated
by the Panthers because they said, hey, it's not out
of the realm of possibility. Could be activated soon that
he meets on the field a guy that he scammed
out and there's a big fight like Tommy fam and
Jock Peterson and they start punching each other because hey,
it's instead of a fantasy footfall, it's you rooked me
out of some Pokemon cards. Sure, I had done.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
They play the Saints at all, I had that right.
Because Williams you've watched him in action, right, tight shirt,
So he's a running back. He was with the Packers
that he's with the Saints. Yeah no, no, no, But
his big thing is no no. But Jamal Williams is
great because he collects Pokemon. So if you ask him
for an autograph in training camp or practic or you
see him around town, like, he'll give you the autograph,

(49:04):
but he wants a Pokemon card for you.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
In Reayea, you just familiar with Jamal will you?

Speaker 3 (49:10):
No, No, he would know this guy than you. Really,
you're familiar with the Saints my way?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Absolutely, yes, i am.

Speaker 8 (49:20):
He's the best running back they got, Jason. Okay, he's not,
but ok okay, okay, yeah, pretty sure.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
He was for the first three weeks.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, okay, So there you go. So John Wick and
Alex Tyshert say that he should be exiled. There we go.
All right, Uh boy, that story, that story was fun.
It would be another nine years until we need your
expertise round that.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Okay, okay, that'll come up again soon. May not be forged.
Who was banned from sites? But you know there's enough
trading card in Pokemon Interchange here. We'll get there.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Coming up next, Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the
tire rag dot Com Studios, Big Time Quarterback News. Guess
who's out of the woods and back in to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Oh it's not timt but I love it.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
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