November 9, 2023 • 42 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon recap Spurs/Knicks and bring you the all the latest on Giannis Antetokounmpo getting ejected for…mean mugging following a dunk. And NBA Insider Ric Bucher joins the show for all the latest on the Lakers, Knicks!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Say see sucks, sucks, suck.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm thinking Justin Frosburg is back tonight. I don't know,
Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just me. Frosburg I
think is back tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I think folks have been learning how to mimic his
voice as best they can.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Sure well, I mean, hey, you gotta get the AI
in while you can get the AI going good because
the strike is over now and there's no AI.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So giant billion dollar contract there you go. Congratulations to
everybody who fought the fight to get it to this
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Speaker 1 (01:14):
Buying should be well Frostburg, I wouldn't say congratulations to
the Chargers beating the Jets. However, I know you stole
our signals during the game, so really it's just every
win is gonna be tainted for you the rest of them.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You guys are so bad you don't have to steal.
I was gonna say, when every signal is someone just
shrugging their shoulders on the sideline, it's not hard to steal.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
I literally had to put the glasses on from bullet
training because my eyes were bleeding watching your team play line.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
We were in the studio and several points I thought
I saw Smith's soul leave his body.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's not difficult because the Jets signals are just a
coach from the sideline yelling.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Run it, pass it, pass it, run it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean that's how wil came in behind, going yeo,
pass and run, guys, pass and run, pass and run,
help them out.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Pass me how much live j Ets chance fireman ed
got in that game?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Oh let me well before the game. Er once the
game star after the punt return for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
After the punt return, oh, I would see baw mask
got way too, way too much coverage on the telecast
to how many shots of that guy did we see
over the course of the night. What else you gonna show?
Jason did?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
What else you gonna show? On the Jets? They were awful?
What else?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
The trope of directors worldwide find the pretty women show
kissing women?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
You may as well called Al Michaels to say, Al,
how interested are you in this game? I mean that's
that's that would that would be more interesting than that.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
He would have just said, I don't know, literally bleeding
from my eyes watching your team play.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Smith, Yeah, I know. I can't. I can't say I
disagree with you. I can't. I can't What do you
want me to say?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
But we went back and forth about it earlier, and Jason,
we did this live on Monday, so for the benefit
of what does it? And we'll pull it together here
on Wednesday, forty eight hours later. Uh is. I liked
watching the pass rush and watching Zach Wilson run for
his life, and I liked Keenan Allen everything else in
that game sucked.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It wasn't. No, listen, it was not anetically.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You stink to Frostburg. You just don't stink as much
as we do because you guys.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Stuck nobody in the leagues as they won three touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Though, So I mean it's only so bad.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
No, No, I'm still got the job done. Man. No,
it's it's a billy bean.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Here's the league, here's most of them, Here's fifty feet
of crap, and then there's us, like under needed defeata
crap was us?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
No, that's it. Succeed in proceed though in week nine.
Look at this point, as long as Justin Herbert is
still up in week seventeen, you're feeling pretty good about
your chances anymore. Tommy DeVito, your tenth rookie quarterback to
take your quarterback playing this week. No, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I went through Iberflus's interview and it just confused me.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
We will get to full of Eberflus coming up in
about do we have to go fully eber through skill.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's hard and that's painful.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That may be the best minute and forty five seconds
of television I've seen.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
As doubtful.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
It was Oh no, No, let's not ruin it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Let's not And listen, like I said, that's coming up
in fifteen minutes. First there is a bigger fish to fry. Yeah,
I need to say this. Hey, Wemby, never bring that
weak ass crap into Madison Square Garden again. It's Webby's
first game at MSG. Goodbye, thank you. You've got a
long way to go. Your team has a long way
to go. The Knicks are going to the finals. It
(04:34):
was never in doubt. Don't bring that weakass stuff into
the biggest, greatest arena on earth ever again.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Never do that.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
It was funny as I'm watching this game one one
twenty six, one oh five year final, Nicks over the Spurs,
all the hype, all the pomp and circumstance of Victor
Webman Yama uh making his first appearance at Madison Square Guard.
He goes four and fourteen and his thirty minutes played
zero for four from three point range minus twenty five.
The night with his fourteen points. Uh, the thing it
(05:02):
got to fourteen. I'm like, I inched into my seat,
going all right, this is getting crazy just enough. Julius
Randall was touching the ball just enough, this could get interesting.
And then down fourteen they the Spurs had the ball
and the guy missed a bunny. I'm like, all right,
that's it. Like you had your chance. You had your chance.
(05:23):
I mean he was looking for the file fall was
not coming, but it was just a little push shot
off the back en. I'm like, all right, there was
your chance. The window opened and then they slammed it
on you.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The Knick starters were plus one forty on the night.
They were plus one forty. Barrett, Barrett and Bronson were
just ridiculous. I mean, and to put it in Nicky,
let's be fair.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Julius Randall was good.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
If I was gonna go to tell you what he stinks,
Julius Raggett, Julius Randall was good.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Heah found a shot later, Okay, Julius Randall was good tonight.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
He did a good job getting fed as things opened
up late, because he finished four for four his final
field goals. Otherwise he was four fifteen on the night,
but still twenty three sixteen and a team leading plus
thirty one on the night, even though every time he
touched the ball, I'm like, it's it's a miss. But
(06:18):
once you got into the cylinder, if you look at
his shot chart, you know what's really good for him dunking.
Just like the old Da Kembe Mutumbo video game commercial.
What do you do when they face up by you
dunk on him? What if they bring the double team
dunk on both of them. What if the third man
come dunk on all of them? That's kind of Julius
Randall at this point.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Don't bring that weak ass Wemby crap into MSG again.
Next time you're gonna do that, just say, you know what, forfeit,
Just forfeit the game. Everybody at least walks away healthy.
Don't bring that. Your team went.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Nineteen of forty two from three point range. Yeah, absolutely
on fire and Barrett bolt well and they went hand
of seventeen. Mike, what are you doing? You don't get
mixed outs to make them look good?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
What do you do? Bigs? We're good? Here go the
Knicks here coming Well.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
No, I can only downplay it so much. Like I said,
there was a moment where I look at by the
way the Spurs are supposed to suck. Did we say
that out loud?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And the Spurs are going to be better than expected,
just not when they bring that weak ass crap into MSG.
That's what it is any other time, yes, but not
that way, not tonight, not against that Knicks team, does Victor?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Were you intimidated by the garden? Were you afraid of
Spike Lee and other luminaries sitting courtside?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
He's gonna say, you know, I tripped over Spike Lee
like seven times up and down the floor. I just
didn't see him. He kept getting out in the middle.
He would clap and I trip over him.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I didn't say it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Nobody told him. Did you stay out too late in
the city that Never sleeps?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Now?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
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weak ass crap.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, it's weak ass crab. It's weak ass crap.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Right now, the Detroit Pistons in Milwaukee are up by
ten with four minutes to go in the fourth quarter,
he gets you're right, the shocker Pistons are leading the
Bucks by ten with six minutes left to go.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
How is this? What happened?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Are the Bucks playing with four? Are they playing with two?
What's going on? Is every rid of the Pistons? Is
every shot the Bucks take worth one? How are they winning?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I mean, MACKI sass.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Things were going okay for the Bucks until this happened.
And this falls under the category of weak ass crap.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Down. It's his third block.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
He's gonna take cad what nobody has?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
He just dunked it. He's donning did he do? Now?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Look I understand if he's he dunked the ball and
did what he's done a million different times.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
And what did he do?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's his second technical so he's gonna have to sleep
the kid.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
ESPN on the call.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yannis gets a technical foul for something. I mean, I
don't know how you can see there any way to
give Yannis a tee. He comes down the wing, goes
in for a dunk and after the dunk. Now I'm
telling you exactly what he does. He comes down, goes
in after the dunk. Is a Pistons player standing there.
Yanni's just comes in lands and he gives a yell
(09:43):
that's maybe a half a second long, and he puts
his hands down and starts running back up the floor,
and he gets teed up by the ref and because
it's his second technical, he gets thrown out of the
game again. The Bucks were leading by thirteen, and now
again they're down by ten with less than six minutes
left to go. Jannis walks to every referee saying what
did I do?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
What did I do?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And the referees all throw them out. You know, you
hear a phrase all the time, and sometimes it's accurate,
sometimes it's not. But this is one of those times
where it's accurate where I look at this and say,
that's a referee that thinks everybody came to see him
referee the game. You didn't come to see the star player.
You came to see me referee this game. Because there's
no reason at all for Yiannis to get a tea.
(10:24):
He doesn't get in anybody's face, he doesn't make anything demonstrative.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It is. It is so incredibly tame.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
It's a guy just you're celebrating a dunk and he
goes back up the floor and instead gets that tea
right away. It's inexcusable, but by the official to do this,
and I know there's gonna be a big apology coming
from the NBA, because there's no way there can't be.
I want them instead of a phone call, I want
everybody to have to fly to Giannis's house and apologize
to him in front of his family and everybody. Now
(10:52):
I'm an extended family. His brother, his cousins, his uncles,
his aunts. They all coming after watch a referee go
hey man, Yeah, I thought people came to the game
to watch me referee, but they don't. They come to
watch you play, and yeah, that was my fault. It's
apologies not enough. You've got to go to his house
and do it in person.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Well, look, he dunked on Isaiah Stewart and then he
stared at him for a second, maybe a half a second,
maybe a millisecond. Either way, you're already with the technical
and let's face it, it's an epidemic in refereeing. We
got strikes here in Southern California in some leagues because
of the disrespect players, coaches, parents all the way through.
(11:31):
But you're looking at the NFL you know, they're not
full time employees. We got to see if someone's crossed
over into the NBA so they can continue the trash
that we've seen on Sundays, Mondays, Thursdays transcend over to
the NBA. Because this is, yes, it's weak, but once
you had that technical, if you got a referee that's
(11:53):
already got the quick whistle, you don't test it. And
in this case, he got he I got. It's a terrible,
terrible technical foul. But they're not gonna apologize for it.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
They have to. They're not ridiculous, it's true because you
know what, you staring him down.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's like the fifteen talks got the other day.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You can't you can't tell me they had an agenda
because what did he do? After he tried to walk
up to the referees and officials and say what did
I do wrong? And nobody would even talk to him,
and they just because the game. But come on, man,
Draymond stays on the court for like twenty minutes after
he gets thrown out and nobody does anything there. They
just kind of stand there and wait for the guy
to leave. They wouldn't even talk to him. These are
(12:38):
referees with an agenda whatever however they're reffing. They come
to the game to watch me. I'm gonna put my
imprint on this game for whatever reason. And it was
a that's a joke.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So what you're saying is they had money on the
pistons or they decided that's kind of what isn't that?
What he just implied, of course, is exactly what you
just implied. But you didn't have the guts to say
that's some weak ass crap by you. Ooh Smith. In Milwaukee,
they did this too. They said, you came to see Yannis,
(13:08):
you got him for twenty two minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
He's gone.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You got twenty two minutes in the world. He gets
to now go travel the world because we threw him out.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Jason, speaking of Yannis jokes, you want one, sure, go ahead.
How do you know when Yannis is home?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
How do you know when Yannis is home.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
When there's a sock on the door?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
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Speaker 4 (13:40):
Congratulations NBA. Yes, the officials got there. They threw Yiannis out.
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Speaker 1 (14:05):
Tonight, in the NBA, we got some blowouts to get into,
with Rick Buker coming up in a few minutes, whether
it was the Lakers and the Rockets or the Knicks
and the Spurs bringing that weak ass Wenby Crap into
Madison Square Garden. We have a lot to break down,
including the Yannis ejection coming up in about twenty minutes.
But make no mistake, the Knicks beating the Spurs tonight
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as bad as they did, that may be enough to
end Victor wemen Yama's career. He may go back to Europe,
he may never want to play in the NBA again
after tonight, Mike, that might be it.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Shell of his former self. Remember we be the same, well,
I mean you go into the biggest stage, or so
they proclaim it. I mean, not really for basketball most
of the time, but sure, let's go there. Uh, this
one all the eyes in the world, right, I mean
we were getting the images from shoot around. You don't
get a lot of shoot around foot. Here's Victor, he's
(15:01):
made it to New York City.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
And then he was he was not good, looked a
little lost defensively.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
And then on the offensive end you get caught and
getting caught and knowing no man's land. And as much
as every once in a while you like to see
him hit a three point shot, I think he's falling
in love with that a little too much.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
He was no part of nick smoke, no part of it,
no part of it smoke. Nope, don't want that.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
If I buy a horse, I'm gonna name it nick smoke.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Nick smoke is.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Although I always worry about two words that have the
same letter ending the first and starting the second, because
it doesn't you can't enunciate it right.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
No, because I would make it all one word.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh, nick smoke, just nick smoke. Okay, I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
By way, you know, exciting news today, del Mar's getting
to double up. They were already coming back for the
Breeders Cup in twenty four they announced twenty five today too,
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But I really, I really, you know what what for
a guy like Wemby mentally, what it's going to be
to try to come back from this and how long
is it gonna take?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Spurs may lose ten in a row.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I mean, this is this is just an absolute whipping,
a butt whipping they got tonight.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Man, I'm telling you, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
He may never be the same he may he he
was on he was going to be the best player
in the league sooner rather than later.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
And now then who knows?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
He made he greg O may wind up having a
better career than Victor Webinyama.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
But you saw the.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Big pregame stuff right the quotes over the last twenty
four hours, kind of talking about Garden when Benyama and
they reference Bull Bowl in the comparisons, He's sit well
with a lot of folks and well tonight, Nick show,
I'm crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
But we will have more NBA coming up in about
fifteen minutes again with Rick Buker. Gonna be a fun visit,
as it always is with him. All the big news
in the NBA, but a Thursday night football preview unlike
any other because you know tomorrow is Paris Panthers.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yay. Al Michaels.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
In a really big interview today he did with The
New York Post talked about his and what his future
holds calling play by play for the NFL. Look Al Michaels,
who has been roundly criticized over the past year plus
for not being very excited at doing the games on Amazon.
The matchups aren't great. He says his plan is to
(17:14):
come back. He's seventy eight years old and eat vegetables now.
He says his plan is to come back and do
at least one more year, no question in his mind.
He's going to broadcast games for Amazon next year to
complete his three year contract with the team. And he
pushed back on the assertion he's not bringing his a
game now. He tells Andrew marshandon The New York Post quote,
(17:35):
I don't think I'm a lot different than I have
been through the years. And if people you know, want
to say that Al doesn't sound as excited, hold on
a second, folks, I'm doing the same game I've always done. Okay,
let's call time out here for a second, because this
is a conversation that all of us have either with
ourselves or with our families at some point in our lives. Now,
(17:55):
let's deal with Al Michaels first. I don't want to retire.
I want to continue to do games. And look he
walked in the interview at lengked about how, hey, it's
pretty easy. I do Thursday night games. It gets paid
what a million dollars a game to do it. He
wants to keep doing it. Of course I'd want to give.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
The year.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And then you walk oway, I want.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Of course, I want to do that. Of course I
want to. But when he.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Says, Al doesn't sound as excited and he thinks I'm
doing the same game I've always done. You and I
are on the air Thursday night football. But we've had
more than enough chances to go back and look at
al Michael's calls and listen to him to break down
the games and all kinds of snippets that are put
on the internet, and sometimes we get to watch, you know,
we have the sound up during the breaks when we're
watching so we can see what's happening, so we can.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Talk about it. During the game. And I think if
you played the tape of al Michaels of a game
he did maybe ten or twelve years ago versus a
game he's done in the last year, and then he
would hear the difference and go, oh wow, I don't
sound as excited because he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I mean when everybody says and this is when I
say everybody, I mean when the general consent is from
from people are al Michael's doing a game. Dude, dude,
you just don't sound as excited. You kind of have
to look into that, and maybe you don't see it
and listen. Many times we are our own worst critics.
We don't think we're moving any slower than we used to.
We don't think we're any less fast than we used
(19:10):
to be here or moving around. But when you can
step back and take an honest look at it, you
can say, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, you're not in the
same shape he used to be. You can't do the
things you did when you were thirty five years old.
And I think if you look at al Michaels and
the exciting games that he called, you would hear him
from ten twelve years ago as sharp as he was,
and now it sounds more like, hey, I'm just working.
(19:31):
I'm just I'm getting paid. So I'm flying in and
I'm working. And maybe you don't notice it because you're
a little bit more tired, because you don't look you're
seventy eight years old, you're flying around the country every week.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
You don't notice. You think you are. You think you're
doing it as great as you are, but really you're not.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
But I bet you if you did that with Al Michaels,
he would see it and go, oh man, now I
see what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Like that happen with Jerry Rice.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Like Jerry Rice at the end of his career thought,
I'm playing just as well as I was ten years
I don't see the difference.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
And I remember him saying, somebody.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Showed up a tape of when he was twenty eight
years old us when he was thirty eight years old,
and he said, oh, man, yeah, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, oh no, no, I'm done. I'm done. I'm not
the same guy.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And Al's got to understand that, even though he feels
like it, you see what the reaction is. And everybody's
very familiar without Michael alm Michaels is not a new
dude that has shown up, but it's hey, it's about no.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
People have been.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Listening to Al Michaels since nineteen eighty. They know when
the guy is on his game and when he's just
announcing games because he's getting paid and he's traveling and
that's what Al Michaels is doing.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, I think some of it. And obviously you and
I are on air, so we don't hear it live,
but you get clips and there's obviously a lot of
outtakes via the fun and exciting world of social media.
Sometimes I do go back, you know, on a Friday
and have it play in the background, because you know,
sometimes you really just are degenerate and want to go
back and watch a couple of sequences again to make
(20:52):
sure you saw it right as you analyze going forward.
But yeah, for Al, I mean some of the criticism
has been just the relationship or partnership with Herb Street,
who's fantastic in the collegiate world. But maybe for the
NFL side, there's folks that have their arms raised to
(21:12):
talk about his performance as well, So maybe there's some
of the just partnership there. Maybe it's Thursday night. Let's
face it, there's been a couple of good matchups and
Tomorrow's is not one of them. Yeah, we'll have football
next week, see y'll later. Everybody is that It's sometimes
a hard sell, right you and I We come in
(21:33):
every night and some days there's a list stories all
over the place. Some days it's a all right, how
do we make this seedless story more important or interesting
than it is? And you do it, and then you
make fun of the Mets Jets and whatever predictions have
gone wrong for either of us and life goes on.
(21:55):
But for al Michaels, yeah, I mean, you're held to
such a high standard. You're the do you believe in
miracles guy? So you're always waiting for the next big call.
It's like if Gus Johnson and Kevin Harlan are suddenly
a little more stayed and quiet in their broadcasts, people
are gonna notice right when that happens for either of them,
(22:15):
whether it's in the drive through or whatever. You got
to listen to the whole show every night that.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
With al Michaels, it has always been the biggest games,
and you're not getting the biggest games now. But they
are still standalone games, right, You're not relegated to the
fifth team for one of the networks trying to cut
your teeth, learn on the job, et cetera. It's still
a standalone game with the lights shining bright and a
huge audience. But sometimes in the clips that I've heard,
(22:46):
and certainly the reviews we've read, doesn't feel like the
cell is there.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Is he always be closing.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
He's even said, and this is this what gets you
to the point.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
This is where you have to have a conference when
you get to the conversation of is it time for
me to retire, Whether you're sixty two, sixty five, whether
you still think you're the same guy, whether you want
to walk away from what you're doing because you've lost
the passion.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
For whatever you do for a living. This is all
of us are going to be in the same boat.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Is He says he has a tough time, he can't
sell a bad game, And I get that. I get
that he is used to doing Super Bowls and all
the big games on Sunday night and everything. I understand that, Hey,
I'm used to all of this and getting to do
big games. You are big games al Michael's. Well, you
know what, you had your chance. You did it for
a long time. You wanted to continue on Sunday Night football.
They wanted to go with Mike Tarico. Right, you want
(23:33):
a Monday night. They wanted to go with a different group. Now, okay,
you took a lot of money to go to Amazon
on Thursday. This kind of tells you how your career
is going. You're not the number one choice anymore. You're
not the number one choice for Sunday nights. Not number choice.
You get in on Amazon because hey, they're new. They
want you to sell their product. This is kind of
where you are, right, he's not that, he's not that
(23:53):
guy and what he's going to keep doing Super Bowls
and all of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
This is where you are.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
And quite honestly, if you can't sell a bad game,
I'm sorry about that because it's still a property that
Amazon paid a lot of money for it, and they're
saying and as you said, people are watching it. They're
watching Thursday night football, whether it's Steelers, Cowboys or Panthers
and the Bears. Right, people are watching this. So yeah,
(24:18):
you should still go and do the same show, the
same game. You've always done. Just think about it like
this for a second. When we come on the show
every night, right, obviously, there are days where it's wow, man,
look at some of these topics we're gonna get to
talk about today, and there's a coach getting fired, and
there's there's a er guy winning MVP. There's all these
big things where where you can sink your teeth into
(24:40):
all this is a great thing. And then there's other
nights where we say, hey, you know what, maybe those
big shocking stories aren't there, but this is night so
we can go out. We can have some fun and
stretch our legs and talk about stuff like the Blues
on it. There's a lot of fun to do, and
here's fun have doing differ. That's why we do it
every night we do. We bring the same kind of
(25:00):
energy to the same kind of show because there's always
fun things for us to do, whether it is reacting
to a big story or finding a story that's incredibly
good at making it great. That's kind of how we
do it.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
If well, then, like Kobe Bryant used to say, man,
there might be a kid hearing me talk for the
first time tonight, So I got to bring my a game.
And that's what we need to do here each and
every night here on Fox Sports Radio as we try
to get the gremlins out of the system. With our
guy Jason Smith, You're good. I am fantastic. Okay, the Jason,
(25:37):
we were getting glitchy with you. We were getting glitchy.
I was getting glitchy. We were getting glitch was getting glitchy.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
We're glitchy. We're glitching. So look that.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
But that's the whole thing is is that when when
you get to that point where you can't do the
same kind of show, and then then you have to
sit back and go, Okay, do I really am I
really the best choice to do this anymore? Because if
if we came in on a night where it wasn't
a guy getting fired and a cooks t he winning
a championship, we were like, hey, yeah, look at this
story tonight. Yeah, hey, what do you think boy? Troy
(26:07):
Aikman criticized Zach Wilson, He's read, I mean, who's gonna
listen to that? Who's gonna listen?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
They gonna say, I want to listen to something else.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Al Michaels is lucky that nobody can go and say, well,
if I want to watch a football game you don't
like how you're broadcasting it, I can watch another game. No,
they got it. Get stuck with you doing that game.
That's how looking and that's all. Be consistent. Have respect
for the product, have respect for what you do. I'm
sorry you're not doing the best games anymore, but this
is what you're getting paid to do, and you gotta
be doing it the best you can. And if you can't,
(26:34):
then then you're doing yourself in the game at the service.
And then we're going on.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
App Nobody Better to break it all down with us
Fox Sports one NBA Insider. You're gonna follow him on
Twitter at Rick Buker. That is Rick Buker.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Rick.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
After watching tonight's action, and I think maybe Wenby might
want to go back to Europe. He doesn't want any
part of that Nick smoke. They may have ended his
career tonight.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Is that the song you're singing tonight?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Of course it is. Come on, man, we crushed them tonight.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Yeah, that is correct.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
You did. You did. Although I've been trying to warn
San Antonio fans and anybody else would listen that this
is not a very good san Antonio team. And I
dare say that the Spurs I mean, and I'm going
based on what people around the league have been saying.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Even before the season.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
Started, that San Antonio is perfectly fine taking another trip
into the into the lottery and picking up one more
quality player, allowing Wenby to get his feet wet, allow
him to kind of get to know the league a
little bit this year. But it's not like, come out
blazing and try to win as many games and make
(28:01):
the playoffs this year. That's not that is not that
is not the goal here. And I say none of
that to take away from the Knicks performance tonight. They
did what they were supposed to do against against a
team like this, so so haven't quite figured out where
exactly to put this team. I mean, honestly, then this
(28:25):
is kind of what happens in New York. And you
correct me if I'm wrong, But like, expectations just seem
to grow exponentially, regardless of whether there's any justification for
them growing. It's it's like a mushroom in the dark,
(28:46):
you know, you just look and then it's one size,
and then you go away and you come back and it's.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
Like it's way bigger, and you're like, wait a minute,
what what what inspired this?
Speaker 7 (28:57):
So? I mean, I just I still think it there
Jalen Brunson and a bunch of pretty good players. But
the idea that they're going to be anything more than
they've been like the last two years is really hard
for me to imagine. And so are they a playoff team? Yeah,
(29:19):
they should be a playoff team. Are they anything more
than you know, maybe getting to the second round? Uh
not until they add at least one more significant piece.
I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Joel embiid it's gonna happen. Everybody's it's gonna happen at
some point. And then I don't go to the finals.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
I don't know, you know. I mean, the way the
Sixers are going right now, they seem to be a
pretty happy bunch. So they put one on the Celtics tonight,
and I think that that that game is a reflection.
This is this is the old song. But I already
pissed off. Let me see you, I already. I already
upset the San Antonio fans. You kind of took a
(29:58):
shot at the Knicks fans. And now I'm going to
downgrade the Sixers victory tonight over the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
There you go, hat trick.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Yeah yeah, why not?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Why not?
Speaker 7 (30:08):
And and and three of the most three of the
fan bases that that love to hate on me anyway.
But Philly, like I, from the beginning, it looked one
I will say this, it looked like the game meant
way more to Philly than.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
It did to Boston. Now, the Celtics are going to
have issue.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
The issue that they have is.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
When they play teams with size.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
That's that's going to be an issue. And it bothers me.
This is what bothers me about the Celtics. So let
me go for the foursome. I can.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
I can go for the quartet now and piss off
Celtics fans.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
This is what concerns me about the Celtics is is
that there are that they do look like, yeah, this
is this game really is not important. We don't we
don't need to make a statement against Philly. We know
better and we'll show it at some point. It's like
you haven't earned that.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
The Denver Nuggets want.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
To play that way.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
They can play that way.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Pretty much anybody else, maybe even Milwaukee because they've been there. Boston,
you haven't gotten the job done. So you need to
every game, every opportunity to demonstrate and maybe learn how
to impose your will when you're supposed to. You need
to take advantage of that. You need to do that.
(31:32):
There aren't There shouldn't be nights where you go, you know,
I mean, people.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
Know we're better and we can beat them when they
want to, so you know, maybe we'll equ one out.
But if we don't, it's no big deal to me.
This It is one of the flaws with this Celtics
team is that they they're a little too full of
just how talented they are and how good everybody thinks
they should be, and sometimes it cuts into their desire
(32:02):
or seeming need to prove it.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Okay, Rick, since you dialed up the four horsemen of hate,
is there any team you like what they've done through
the first couple of weeks or do we just want
to keep piling on?
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Well one, I love, I love, love love what we're
seeing from the Nuggets. Obviously not satisfied with just one
have have realized how good they can be, and they're
imposing their will on everybody. They're beaten the Warriors by
ten right now, and actually the Warriors, I've been pleasantly
surprised at how the magic of you get to play
(32:38):
with Steph Curry and guys come on board and they're like, cool,
what do I need to do? Let's try to go
win something.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
It's just.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
I just love the chemistry. I love the instant chemistry.
I love the way guys come in and they try.
There's no question of even with Chris Paul, like Okay,
how is it that you need me to play the
way you guys play? Because I know it's successful and
it's a it's a beautiful brand of basketball. Let me
see how I can fit in. You see it with
Darya Shart, you see it with Chris Paul. It's just
(33:12):
it's really fun to watch. And I think that for
the Western Conference. You know, I don't put it past
Golden State. I don't know if they're talented enough, but
with that chemistry, they might be able to overachieve. And
I would not be surprised if they got to the
conference finals. I don't think anybody getting past Denver, but
I could see them getting there ahead of Phoenix. Phoenix
(33:34):
is way more talented. They don't have nearly the same
kind of chemistry or leadership. And then one of the teams,
one of the teams that I'm going to I'm gonna
give kudos to are the Dallas Mavericks, and I do
not think I would be doing that. But Luca Datis
has come back, looks to be in better shape. Kyrie
Irving is playing some of the best basketball, most efficient
basketball I've ever seen him play. They have what I
(33:58):
didn't think was going to be a one to two
parts punch, the one two punches that Luca likes to
play slow and Kyrie is playing fast, and so it
gives them kind of this one two punch offensively. And
then Derek Lively, the center that they acquired from Oklahoma City,
the rookie center. He's giving them rim protection. Derick Jones
(34:20):
was a nice pick up. He's coming in playing with
the desperation of somebody who knows that if he doesn't
perform now, he might be out of the league. So
they've they've again I kind of put him. They're they're
like the Nix of the West and that you know,
make the playoffs, maybe second round. I'm not I'm not,
(34:41):
you know, I'm not. I'm not looking at them as
being contenders or elite, but they're the demonstrated that they're
far better than I expected them to be. And with
the talent that Luca and Kyrie have, like if you,
if you, if you do away with the distractions and
it's just about basketball, those are pretty Those are two
pretty fun players to watch work their craft.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well, let's be honest, if Yannis keeps getting tossed like
he did tonight, it's gonna be for a lot of
teams rick watching this ejection. And there's nothing he did.
There's not only nothing he did to warrant that technical.
When he tried to talk to the officials, none of
them wanted to talk to him. I look at it
and I go, are these just officials that come in
and they have one a certain way of thinking for
(35:26):
this game? Or because I look at it as do
they really think people come to the games to watch
him officiate, like like the short temper they have and
throwing them out.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
I mean, that was absolutely ridiculous. What happened tonight?
Speaker 7 (35:37):
You know what, I really really bothered me, and I
don't I can't recall the specific referee that he went
up to to ask, but that referee was so he.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
Was dismissive, like, you know what you did get out
of here?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (35:57):
That clear? You need to explain it to the rest
of us, because we're all looking at it like, yeah, did.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
He kind of mean mug whoever he dunked on?
Speaker 6 (36:05):
The guy was right there.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
And it was a split second, and you're going to
inject someone for that kind of reaction is just it
was a mistake, and then to pretend like it was
obvious only compounded what I didn't like about it. But
(36:28):
I would say this, and look, I'm usually I am
usually defensive when it comes to the referees. I know
how hard the job is. I think they get way
too much criticism. I hate the conspiracy theories like they have,
you know, preconceived notions in terms of who they want
to win or any of that stuff. But I will
(36:50):
say this, the league told us coming into the season
after we got beaten up in World Cup competition.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
The indicase that I was getting.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Were that the competition committee had decided, you know what,
we need, we need to allow a little.
Speaker 8 (37:06):
More physicality back into our game. And I thought I
saw it like through the first I don't know, three four,
let's say the first week of the season. I saw that.
I saw that we weren't blowing the whistle every time
there was contact. But for the last week, I've seen nothing.
But I saw it tonight multiple times in multiple games
(37:31):
where I'm like, why are well, why are we calling that?
Speaker 7 (37:36):
It's it is, It's just it's not attractive basketball. It's
why I believe that our play on the international stage
has deteriorated. And uh and and we were promised something
else and I don't know why they've reverted now. Sometimes
(37:56):
it's really difficult, you know, it's you do your job
and suddenly the bosses say we want you to do
your job a significantly different way, and you've been doing
it a certain way for over a year.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
It takes you a little bit.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Of time to fully make that adjustment. And I'm going
to say, I hope that that's what the case. That's
the case here, but h I was I was so
looking forward to it being more like real basketball than
you know, what if you drive to the basket and
you and you and you initiate contact and throw your
(38:35):
arms or you do something you react that you're going
to get a whistle. I'd hopefully gone away with that
because to me, it's just it's not it's not attractive
or conducive basketball for for the NBA overall.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Speaking of real basketball, I thought we were going to
get some from the Lakers on the road. Anthony Davis
uh injured and unavailable, but they go out and get
absolutely drummed by the Rockets now Owen on the road
this season, Rick I just told they were back.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
Yeah, yeah, I think this is another one.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
This is another one where I warned everybody, like everyone
is so excited about Rob Polink. It kept the band
together and look you at it, Christian Wood, oh my god, and.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
Cam Rettish and oh my god. I mean the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
The Lakers are going to be so good.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
And I'm like, you do a Lebron James just got
a year older, right, and you do know that Anthony Davis,
like you know it's it's so I'm not at all
surprised at where they are. I hope this slows down
what they looked like without Anthony Davis and the young
(39:44):
guns who just I think maybe this is the most
surprising thing for me when it comes to.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
The Lakers is there is absolutely zero intimidation factor when
it comes to Lebron or a d And I'm talking
about like the.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Young guys in the league who really haven't done anything yet,
who just are like, Oh, I'm gonna cook.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
That old guy. I mean, that is literally, that is
literally the way they approached it now.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
And I'm like, wow, it's I mean, and I can't
I can't fault them because you know, we we have
we have a few people who are pro Lebron, who.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
Are unfailingly pro Lebron, who have been talking up what
he's doing, how he's playing, and he's still playing like
one of the best in the league. And I'm like,
are we just looking at the box score? Or are
we is anybody looking at what's happened at the defensive
end of the floor, because he ain't guarding anybody, Like,
(40:43):
whatever he's scoring, it ain't enough for how whether it's
off the ball or on the ball, that he's being
he's being exploited. And and again I don't even say
this like it sounds like I'm ripping on on on
Lebron I'm not because.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Everybody, Rick, Now, every week, you know.
Speaker 7 (41:06):
What, I am going to rip him.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
But he's gonna like he's he's fifth or sixth on
the list.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
I've already got, like I got a top five, so
he's got you know, I want the listeners out there
to know, Hey, Lebron on my on my uh my
hatred list is uh, he's not even top five anymore.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Like Lebron doesn't matter. According to Rick Buker, That's what
he told Harvard and Smith.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That's a new feature, Rick, the top five most Hated
Things by Rick Buer, and then he.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
That list every week. That would be like therapy for me.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, we can do that. The five podcasts I.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
Think Zach isn't Zach love who does like the ten
things I like the most, you know whatever, something like that,
the five things I hate the most? Like it? I
like it.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
We're still gonna billion for the full hour, Rick, Yeah,
it didn't know. It's only a twelve minute therapy session.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And it's kind of like when a team falls out
of the top twenty five for the first time in
like ten years. It's Lebron falls out of the top
five for the first time in ten years.
Speaker 7 (42:15):
Rick Buker, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's on Twitter at Rick Buker,
That is at Rick Buker.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Check out the album Ball podcast as well. Rick is
always buddy, great times man. We'll talk to you soon.
And hey, if Wenby retires after tonight, we'll call you
back and come on and react to it.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
Uh you you got it, you got it.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
See you, Bunny,
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Speaker 3 (00:41):
I think folks have been learning how to mimic his
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
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Buying should be well Frostburg, I wouldn't say congratulations to
the Chargers beating the Jets. However, I know you stole
our signals during the game, so really it's just every
win is gonna be tainted for you the rest of them.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You guys are so bad you don't have to steal.
I was gonna say, when every signal is someone just
shrugging their shoulders on the sideline, it's not hard to steal.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
I literally had to put the glasses on from bullet
training because my eyes were bleeding watching your team play line.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
We were in the studio and several points I thought
I saw Smith's soul leave his body.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's not difficult because the Jets signals are just a
coach from the sideline yelling.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Run it, pass it, pass it, run it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean that's how wil came in behind, going yeo,
pass and run, guys, pass and run, pass and run,
help them out.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Pass me how much live j Ets chance fireman ed
got in that game?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Oh let me well before the game. Er once the
game star after the punt return for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
After the punt return, oh, I would see baw mask
got way too, way too much coverage on the telecast
to how many shots of that guy did we see
over the course of the night. What else you gonna show?
Jason did?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
What else you gonna show? On the Jets? They were awful?
What else?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
The trope of directors worldwide find the pretty women show
kissing women?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
You may as well called Al Michaels to say, Al,
how interested are you in this game? I mean that's
that's that would that would be more interesting than that.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
He would have just said, I don't know, literally bleeding
from my eyes watching your team play.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Smith, Yeah, I know. I can't. I can't say I
disagree with you. I can't. I can't What do you
want me to say?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
But we went back and forth about it earlier, and Jason,
we did this live on Monday, so for the benefit
of what does it? And we'll pull it together here
on Wednesday, forty eight hours later. Uh is. I liked
watching the pass rush and watching Zach Wilson run for
his life, and I liked Keenan Allen everything else in
that game sucked.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It wasn't. No, listen, it was not anetically.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You stink to Frostburg. You just don't stink as much
as we do because you guys.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Stuck nobody in the leagues as they won three touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Though, So I mean it's only so bad.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
No, No, I'm still got the job done. Man. No,
it's it's a billy bean.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Here's the league, here's most of them, Here's fifty feet
of crap, and then there's us, like under needed defeata
crap was us?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
No, that's it. Succeed in proceed though in week nine.
Look at this point, as long as Justin Herbert is
still up in week seventeen, you're feeling pretty good about
your chances anymore. Tommy DeVito, your tenth rookie quarterback to
take your quarterback playing this week. No, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I went through Iberflus's interview and it just confused me.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
We will get to full of Eberflus coming up in
about do we have to go fully eber through skill.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's hard and that's painful.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That may be the best minute and forty five seconds
of television I've seen.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
As doubtful.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
It was Oh no, No, let's not ruin it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Let's not And listen, like I said, that's coming up
in fifteen minutes. First there is a bigger fish to fry. Yeah,
I need to say this. Hey, Wemby, never bring that
weak ass crap into Madison Square Garden again. It's Webby's
first game at MSG. Goodbye, thank you. You've got a
long way to go. Your team has a long way
to go. The Knicks are going to the finals. It
(04:34):
was never in doubt. Don't bring that weakass stuff into
the biggest, greatest arena on earth ever again.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Never do that.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
It was funny as I'm watching this game one one
twenty six, one oh five year final, Nicks over the Spurs,
all the hype, all the pomp and circumstance of Victor
Webman Yama uh making his first appearance at Madison Square Guard.
He goes four and fourteen and his thirty minutes played
zero for four from three point range minus twenty five.
The night with his fourteen points. Uh, the thing it
(05:02):
got to fourteen. I'm like, I inched into my seat,
going all right, this is getting crazy just enough. Julius
Randall was touching the ball just enough, this could get interesting.
And then down fourteen they the Spurs had the ball
and the guy missed a bunny. I'm like, all right,
that's it. Like you had your chance. You had your chance.
(05:23):
I mean he was looking for the file fall was
not coming, but it was just a little push shot
off the back en. I'm like, all right, there was
your chance. The window opened and then they slammed it
on you.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The Knick starters were plus one forty on the night.
They were plus one forty. Barrett, Barrett and Bronson were
just ridiculous. I mean, and to put it in Nicky,
let's be fair.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Julius Randall was good.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
If I was gonna go to tell you what he stinks,
Julius Raggett, Julius Randall was good.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Heah found a shot later, Okay, Julius Randall was good tonight.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
He did a good job getting fed as things opened
up late, because he finished four for four his final
field goals. Otherwise he was four fifteen on the night,
but still twenty three sixteen and a team leading plus
thirty one on the night, even though every time he
touched the ball, I'm like, it's it's a miss. But
(06:18):
once you got into the cylinder, if you look at
his shot chart, you know what's really good for him dunking.
Just like the old Da Kembe Mutumbo video game commercial.
What do you do when they face up by you
dunk on him? What if they bring the double team
dunk on both of them. What if the third man
come dunk on all of them? That's kind of Julius
Randall at this point.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Don't bring that weak ass Wemby crap into MSG again.
Next time you're gonna do that, just say, you know what, forfeit,
Just forfeit the game. Everybody at least walks away healthy.
Don't bring that. Your team went.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Nineteen of forty two from three point range. Yeah, absolutely
on fire and Barrett bolt well and they went hand
of seventeen. Mike, what are you doing? You don't get
mixed outs to make them look good?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
What do you do? Bigs? We're good? Here go the
Knicks here coming Well.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
No, I can only downplay it so much. Like I said,
there was a moment where I look at by the
way the Spurs are supposed to suck. Did we say
that out loud?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And the Spurs are going to be better than expected,
just not when they bring that weak ass crap into MSG.
That's what it is any other time, yes, but not
that way, not tonight, not against that Knicks team, does Victor?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Were you intimidated by the garden? Were you afraid of
Spike Lee and other luminaries sitting courtside?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
He's gonna say, you know, I tripped over Spike Lee
like seven times up and down the floor. I just
didn't see him. He kept getting out in the middle.
He would clap and I trip over him.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I didn't say it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Nobody told him. Did you stay out too late in
the city that Never sleeps?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Now?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
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Speaker 3 (08:06):
You already have a subtitled for this evening's podcast, No
weak ass crap.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, it's weak ass crab. It's weak ass crap.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Right now, the Detroit Pistons in Milwaukee are up by
ten with four minutes to go in the fourth quarter,
he gets you're right, the shocker Pistons are leading the
Bucks by ten with six minutes left to go.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
How is this? What happened?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Are the Bucks playing with four? Are they playing with two?
What's going on? Is every rid of the Pistons? Is
every shot the Bucks take worth one? How are they winning?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I mean, MACKI sass.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Things were going okay for the Bucks until this happened.
And this falls under the category of weak ass crap.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Down. It's his third block.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
He's gonna take cad what nobody has?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
He just dunked it. He's donning did he do? Now?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Look I understand if he's he dunked the ball and
did what he's done a million different times.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
And what did he do?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's his second technical so he's gonna have to sleep
the kid.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
ESPN on the call.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yannis gets a technical foul for something. I mean, I
don't know how you can see there any way to
give Yannis a tee. He comes down the wing, goes
in for a dunk and after the dunk. Now I'm
telling you exactly what he does. He comes down, goes
in after the dunk. Is a Pistons player standing there.
Yanni's just comes in lands and he gives a yell
(09:43):
that's maybe a half a second long, and he puts
his hands down and starts running back up the floor,
and he gets teed up by the ref and because
it's his second technical, he gets thrown out of the
game again. The Bucks were leading by thirteen, and now
again they're down by ten with less than six minutes
left to go. Jannis walks to every referee saying what
did I do?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
What did I do?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And the referees all throw them out. You know, you
hear a phrase all the time, and sometimes it's accurate,
sometimes it's not. But this is one of those times
where it's accurate where I look at this and say,
that's a referee that thinks everybody came to see him
referee the game. You didn't come to see the star player.
You came to see me referee this game. Because there's
no reason at all for Yiannis to get a tea.
(10:24):
He doesn't get in anybody's face, he doesn't make anything demonstrative.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It is. It is so incredibly tame.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
It's a guy just you're celebrating a dunk and he
goes back up the floor and instead gets that tea
right away. It's inexcusable, but by the official to do this,
and I know there's gonna be a big apology coming
from the NBA, because there's no way there can't be.
I want them instead of a phone call, I want
everybody to have to fly to Giannis's house and apologize
to him in front of his family and everybody. Now
(10:52):
I'm an extended family. His brother, his cousins, his uncles,
his aunts. They all coming after watch a referee go
hey man, Yeah, I thought people came to the game
to watch me referee, but they don't. They come to
watch you play, and yeah, that was my fault. It's
apologies not enough. You've got to go to his house
and do it in person.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Well, look, he dunked on Isaiah Stewart and then he
stared at him for a second, maybe a half a second,
maybe a millisecond. Either way, you're already with the technical
and let's face it, it's an epidemic in refereeing. We
got strikes here in Southern California in some leagues because
of the disrespect players, coaches, parents all the way through.
(11:31):
But you're looking at the NFL you know, they're not
full time employees. We got to see if someone's crossed
over into the NBA so they can continue the trash
that we've seen on Sundays, Mondays, Thursdays transcend over to
the NBA. Because this is, yes, it's weak, but once
you had that technical, if you got a referee that's
(11:53):
already got the quick whistle, you don't test it. And
in this case, he got he I got. It's a terrible,
terrible technical foul. But they're not gonna apologize for it.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
They have to. They're not ridiculous, it's true because you
know what, you staring him down.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's like the fifteen talks got the other day.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You can't you can't tell me they had an agenda
because what did he do? After he tried to walk
up to the referees and officials and say what did
I do wrong? And nobody would even talk to him,
and they just because the game. But come on, man,
Draymond stays on the court for like twenty minutes after
he gets thrown out and nobody does anything there. They
just kind of stand there and wait for the guy
to leave. They wouldn't even talk to him. These are
(12:38):
referees with an agenda whatever however they're reffing. They come
to the game to watch me. I'm gonna put my
imprint on this game for whatever reason. And it was
a that's a joke.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So what you're saying is they had money on the
pistons or they decided that's kind of what isn't that?
What he just implied, of course, is exactly what you
just implied. But you didn't have the guts to say
that's some weak ass crap by you. Ooh Smith. In Milwaukee,
they did this too. They said, you came to see Yannis,
(13:08):
you got him for twenty two minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
He's gone.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You got twenty two minutes in the world. He gets
to now go travel the world because we threw him out.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Jason, speaking of Yannis jokes, you want one, sure, go ahead.
How do you know when Yannis is home?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
How do you know when Yannis is home.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
When there's a sock on the door?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
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Speaker 1 (13:35):
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Speaker 4 (13:40):
Congratulations NBA. Yes, the officials got there. They threw Yiannis out.
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Speaker 1 (14:05):
Tonight, in the NBA, we got some blowouts to get into,
with Rick Buker coming up in a few minutes, whether
it was the Lakers and the Rockets or the Knicks
and the Spurs bringing that weak ass Wenby Crap into
Madison Square Garden. We have a lot to break down,
including the Yannis ejection coming up in about twenty minutes.
But make no mistake, the Knicks beating the Spurs tonight
(14:28):
as bad as they did, that may be enough to
end Victor wemen Yama's career. He may go back to Europe,
he may never want to play in the NBA again
after tonight, Mike, that might be it.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Shell of his former self. Remember we be the same, well,
I mean you go into the biggest stage, or so
they proclaim it. I mean, not really for basketball most
of the time, but sure, let's go there. Uh, this
one all the eyes in the world, right, I mean
we were getting the images from shoot around. You don't
get a lot of shoot around foot. Here's Victor, he's
(15:01):
made it to New York City.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
And then he was he was not good, looked a
little lost defensively.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
And then on the offensive end you get caught and
getting caught and knowing no man's land. And as much
as every once in a while you like to see
him hit a three point shot, I think he's falling
in love with that a little too much.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
He was no part of nick smoke, no part of it,
no part of it smoke. Nope, don't want that.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
If I buy a horse, I'm gonna name it nick smoke.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Nick smoke is.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Although I always worry about two words that have the
same letter ending the first and starting the second, because
it doesn't you can't enunciate it right.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
No, because I would make it all one word.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh, nick smoke, just nick smoke. Okay, I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
By way, you know, exciting news today, del Mar's getting
to double up. They were already coming back for the
Breeders Cup in twenty four they announced twenty five today too,
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But I really, I really, you know what what for
a guy like Wemby mentally, what it's going to be
to try to come back from this and how long
is it gonna take?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Spurs may lose ten in a row.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I mean, this is this is just an absolute whipping,
a butt whipping they got tonight.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Man, I'm telling you, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
He may never be the same he may he he
was on he was going to be the best player
in the league sooner rather than later.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
And now then who knows?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
He made he greg O may wind up having a
better career than Victor Webinyama.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
But you saw the.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Big pregame stuff right the quotes over the last twenty
four hours, kind of talking about Garden when Benyama and
they reference Bull Bowl in the comparisons, He's sit well
with a lot of folks and well tonight, Nick show,
I'm crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
But we will have more NBA coming up in about
fifteen minutes again with Rick Buker. Gonna be a fun visit,
as it always is with him. All the big news
in the NBA, but a Thursday night football preview unlike
any other because you know tomorrow is Paris Panthers.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yay. Al Michaels.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
In a really big interview today he did with The
New York Post talked about his and what his future
holds calling play by play for the NFL. Look Al Michaels,
who has been roundly criticized over the past year plus
for not being very excited at doing the games on Amazon.
The matchups aren't great. He says his plan is to
(17:14):
come back. He's seventy eight years old and eat vegetables now.
He says his plan is to come back and do
at least one more year, no question in his mind.
He's going to broadcast games for Amazon next year to
complete his three year contract with the team. And he
pushed back on the assertion he's not bringing his a
game now. He tells Andrew marshandon The New York Post quote,
(17:35):
I don't think I'm a lot different than I have
been through the years. And if people you know, want
to say that Al doesn't sound as excited, hold on
a second, folks, I'm doing the same game I've always done. Okay,
let's call time out here for a second, because this
is a conversation that all of us have either with
ourselves or with our families at some point in our lives. Now,
(17:55):
let's deal with Al Michaels first. I don't want to retire.
I want to continue to do games. And look he
walked in the interview at lengked about how, hey, it's
pretty easy. I do Thursday night games. It gets paid
what a million dollars a game to do it. He
wants to keep doing it. Of course I'd want to give.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
The year.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And then you walk oway, I want.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Of course, I want to do that. Of course I
want to. But when he.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Says, Al doesn't sound as excited and he thinks I'm
doing the same game I've always done. You and I
are on the air Thursday night football. But we've had
more than enough chances to go back and look at
al Michael's calls and listen to him to break down
the games and all kinds of snippets that are put
on the internet, and sometimes we get to watch, you know,
we have the sound up during the breaks when we're
watching so we can see what's happening, so we can.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Talk about it. During the game. And I think if
you played the tape of al Michaels of a game
he did maybe ten or twelve years ago versus a
game he's done in the last year, and then he
would hear the difference and go, oh wow, I don't
sound as excited because he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I mean when everybody says and this is when I
say everybody, I mean when the general consent is from
from people are al Michael's doing a game. Dude, dude,
you just don't sound as excited. You kind of have
to look into that, and maybe you don't see it
and listen. Many times we are our own worst critics.
We don't think we're moving any slower than we used to.
We don't think we're any less fast than we used
(19:10):
to be here or moving around. But when you can
step back and take an honest look at it, you
can say, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, you're not in the
same shape he used to be. You can't do the
things you did when you were thirty five years old.
And I think if you look at al Michaels and
the exciting games that he called, you would hear him
from ten twelve years ago as sharp as he was,
and now it sounds more like, hey, I'm just working.
(19:31):
I'm just I'm getting paid. So I'm flying in and
I'm working. And maybe you don't notice it because you're
a little bit more tired, because you don't look you're
seventy eight years old, you're flying around the country every week.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
You don't notice. You think you are. You think you're
doing it as great as you are, but really you're not.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
But I bet you if you did that with Al Michaels,
he would see it and go, oh man, now I
see what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Like that happen with Jerry Rice.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Like Jerry Rice at the end of his career thought,
I'm playing just as well as I was ten years
I don't see the difference.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
And I remember him saying, somebody.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Showed up a tape of when he was twenty eight
years old us when he was thirty eight years old,
and he said, oh, man, yeah, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, oh no, no, I'm done. I'm done. I'm not
the same guy.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And Al's got to understand that, even though he feels
like it, you see what the reaction is. And everybody's
very familiar without Michael alm Michaels is not a new
dude that has shown up, but it's hey, it's about no.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
People have been.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Listening to Al Michaels since nineteen eighty. They know when
the guy is on his game and when he's just
announcing games because he's getting paid and he's traveling and
that's what Al Michaels is doing.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, I think some of it. And obviously you and
I are on air, so we don't hear it live,
but you get clips and there's obviously a lot of
outtakes via the fun and exciting world of social media.
Sometimes I do go back, you know, on a Friday
and have it play in the background, because you know,
sometimes you really just are degenerate and want to go
back and watch a couple of sequences again to make
(20:52):
sure you saw it right as you analyze going forward.
But yeah, for Al, I mean some of the criticism
has been just the relationship or partnership with Herb Street,
who's fantastic in the collegiate world. But maybe for the
NFL side, there's folks that have their arms raised to
(21:12):
talk about his performance as well, So maybe there's some
of the just partnership there. Maybe it's Thursday night. Let's
face it, there's been a couple of good matchups and
Tomorrow's is not one of them. Yeah, we'll have football
next week, see y'll later. Everybody is that It's sometimes
a hard sell, right you and I We come in
(21:33):
every night and some days there's a list stories all
over the place. Some days it's a all right, how
do we make this seedless story more important or interesting
than it is? And you do it, and then you
make fun of the Mets Jets and whatever predictions have
gone wrong for either of us and life goes on.
(21:55):
But for al Michaels, yeah, I mean, you're held to
such a high standard. You're the do you believe in
miracles guy? So you're always waiting for the next big call.
It's like if Gus Johnson and Kevin Harlan are suddenly
a little more stayed and quiet in their broadcasts, people
are gonna notice right when that happens for either of them,
(22:15):
whether it's in the drive through or whatever. You got
to listen to the whole show every night that.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
With al Michaels, it has always been the biggest games,
and you're not getting the biggest games now. But they
are still standalone games, right, You're not relegated to the
fifth team for one of the networks trying to cut
your teeth, learn on the job, et cetera. It's still
a standalone game with the lights shining bright and a
huge audience. But sometimes in the clips that I've heard,
(22:46):
and certainly the reviews we've read, doesn't feel like the
cell is there.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Is he always be closing.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
He's even said, and this is this what gets you
to the point.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
This is where you have to have a conference when
you get to the conversation of is it time for
me to retire, Whether you're sixty two, sixty five, whether
you still think you're the same guy, whether you want
to walk away from what you're doing because you've lost
the passion.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
For whatever you do for a living. This is all
of us are going to be in the same boat.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Is He says he has a tough time, he can't
sell a bad game, And I get that. I get
that he is used to doing Super Bowls and all
the big games on Sunday night and everything. I understand that, Hey,
I'm used to all of this and getting to do
big games. You are big games al Michael's. Well, you
know what, you had your chance. You did it for
a long time. You wanted to continue on Sunday Night football.
They wanted to go with Mike Tarico. Right, you want
(23:33):
a Monday night. They wanted to go with a different group. Now, okay,
you took a lot of money to go to Amazon
on Thursday. This kind of tells you how your career
is going. You're not the number one choice anymore. You're
not the number one choice for Sunday nights. Not number choice.
You get in on Amazon because hey, they're new. They
want you to sell their product. This is kind of
where you are, right, he's not that, he's not that
(23:53):
guy and what he's going to keep doing Super Bowls
and all of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
This is where you are.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
And quite honestly, if you can't sell a bad game,
I'm sorry about that because it's still a property that
Amazon paid a lot of money for it, and they're
saying and as you said, people are watching it. They're
watching Thursday night football, whether it's Steelers, Cowboys or Panthers
and the Bears. Right, people are watching this. So yeah,
(24:18):
you should still go and do the same show, the
same game. You've always done. Just think about it like
this for a second. When we come on the show
every night, right, obviously, there are days where it's wow, man,
look at some of these topics we're gonna get to
talk about today, and there's a coach getting fired, and
there's there's a er guy winning MVP. There's all these
big things where where you can sink your teeth into
(24:40):
all this is a great thing. And then there's other
nights where we say, hey, you know what, maybe those
big shocking stories aren't there, but this is night so
we can go out. We can have some fun and
stretch our legs and talk about stuff like the Blues
on it. There's a lot of fun to do, and
here's fun have doing differ. That's why we do it
every night we do. We bring the same kind of
(25:00):
energy to the same kind of show because there's always
fun things for us to do, whether it is reacting
to a big story or finding a story that's incredibly
good at making it great. That's kind of how we
do it.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
If well, then, like Kobe Bryant used to say, man,
there might be a kid hearing me talk for the
first time tonight, So I got to bring my a game.
And that's what we need to do here each and
every night here on Fox Sports Radio as we try
to get the gremlins out of the system. With our
guy Jason Smith, You're good. I am fantastic. Okay, the Jason,
(25:37):
we were getting glitchy with you. We were getting glitchy.
I was getting glitchy. We were getting glitch was getting glitchy.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
We're glitchy. We're glitching. So look that.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
But that's the whole thing is is that when when
you get to that point where you can't do the
same kind of show, and then then you have to
sit back and go, Okay, do I really am I
really the best choice to do this anymore? Because if
if we came in on a night where it wasn't
a guy getting fired and a cooks t he winning
a championship, we were like, hey, yeah, look at this
story tonight. Yeah, hey, what do you think boy? Troy
(26:07):
Aikman criticized Zach Wilson, He's read, I mean, who's gonna
listen to that? Who's gonna listen?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
They gonna say, I want to listen to something else.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Al Michaels is lucky that nobody can go and say, well,
if I want to watch a football game you don't
like how you're broadcasting it, I can watch another game. No,
they got it. Get stuck with you doing that game.
That's how looking and that's all. Be consistent. Have respect
for the product, have respect for what you do. I'm
sorry you're not doing the best games anymore, but this
is what you're getting paid to do, and you gotta
be doing it the best you can. And if you can't,
(26:34):
then then you're doing yourself in the game at the service.
And then we're going on.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
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Speaker 1 (26:47):
App Nobody Better to break it all down with us
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Twitter at Rick Buker. That is Rick Buker.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Rick.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
After watching tonight's action, and I think maybe Wenby might
want to go back to Europe. He doesn't want any
part of that Nick smoke. They may have ended his
career tonight.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Is that the song you're singing tonight?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Of course it is. Come on, man, we crushed them tonight.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Yeah, that is correct.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
You did. You did. Although I've been trying to warn
San Antonio fans and anybody else would listen that this
is not a very good san Antonio team. And I
dare say that the Spurs I mean, and I'm going
based on what people around the league have been saying.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Even before the season.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
Started, that San Antonio is perfectly fine taking another trip
into the into the lottery and picking up one more
quality player, allowing Wenby to get his feet wet, allow
him to kind of get to know the league a
little bit this year. But it's not like, come out
blazing and try to win as many games and make
(28:01):
the playoffs this year. That's not that is not that
is not the goal here. And I say none of
that to take away from the Knicks performance tonight. They
did what they were supposed to do against against a
team like this, so so haven't quite figured out where
exactly to put this team. I mean, honestly, then this
(28:25):
is kind of what happens in New York. And you
correct me if I'm wrong, But like, expectations just seem
to grow exponentially, regardless of whether there's any justification for
them growing. It's it's like a mushroom in the dark,
(28:46):
you know, you just look and then it's one size,
and then you go away and you come back and it's.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
Like it's way bigger, and you're like, wait a minute,
what what what inspired this?
Speaker 7 (28:57):
So? I mean, I just I still think it there
Jalen Brunson and a bunch of pretty good players. But
the idea that they're going to be anything more than
they've been like the last two years is really hard
for me to imagine. And so are they a playoff team? Yeah,
(29:19):
they should be a playoff team. Are they anything more
than you know, maybe getting to the second round? Uh
not until they add at least one more significant piece.
I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Joel embiid it's gonna happen. Everybody's it's gonna happen at
some point. And then I don't go to the finals.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
I don't know, you know. I mean, the way the
Sixers are going right now, they seem to be a
pretty happy bunch. So they put one on the Celtics tonight,
and I think that that that game is a reflection.
This is this is the old song. But I already
pissed off. Let me see you, I already. I already
upset the San Antonio fans. You kind of took a
(29:58):
shot at the Knicks fans. And now I'm going to
downgrade the Sixers victory tonight over the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
There you go, hat trick.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Yeah yeah, why not?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Why not?
Speaker 7 (30:08):
And and and three of the most three of the
fan bases that that love to hate on me anyway.
But Philly, like I, from the beginning, it looked one
I will say this, it looked like the game meant
way more to Philly than.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
It did to Boston. Now, the Celtics are going to
have issue.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
The issue that they have is.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
When they play teams with size.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
That's that's going to be an issue. And it bothers me.
This is what bothers me about the Celtics. So let
me go for the foursome. I can.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
I can go for the quartet now and piss off
Celtics fans.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
This is what concerns me about the Celtics is is
that there are that they do look like, yeah, this
is this game really is not important. We don't we
don't need to make a statement against Philly. We know
better and we'll show it at some point. It's like
you haven't earned that.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
The Denver Nuggets want.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
To play that way.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
They can play that way.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Pretty much anybody else, maybe even Milwaukee because they've been there. Boston,
you haven't gotten the job done. So you need to
every game, every opportunity to demonstrate and maybe learn how
to impose your will when you're supposed to. You need
to take advantage of that. You need to do that.
(31:32):
There aren't There shouldn't be nights where you go, you know,
I mean, people.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
Know we're better and we can beat them when they
want to, so you know, maybe we'll equ one out.
But if we don't, it's no big deal to me.
This It is one of the flaws with this Celtics
team is that they they're a little too full of
just how talented they are and how good everybody thinks
they should be, and sometimes it cuts into their desire
(32:02):
or seeming need to prove it.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Okay, Rick, since you dialed up the four horsemen of hate,
is there any team you like what they've done through
the first couple of weeks or do we just want
to keep piling on?
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Well one, I love, I love, love love what we're
seeing from the Nuggets. Obviously not satisfied with just one
have have realized how good they can be, and they're
imposing their will on everybody. They're beaten the Warriors by
ten right now, and actually the Warriors, I've been pleasantly
surprised at how the magic of you get to play
(32:38):
with Steph Curry and guys come on board and they're like, cool,
what do I need to do? Let's try to go
win something.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
It's just.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
I just love the chemistry. I love the instant chemistry.
I love the way guys come in and they try.
There's no question of even with Chris Paul, like Okay,
how is it that you need me to play the
way you guys play? Because I know it's successful and
it's a it's a beautiful brand of basketball. Let me
see how I can fit in. You see it with
Darya Shart, you see it with Chris Paul. It's just
(33:12):
it's really fun to watch. And I think that for
the Western Conference. You know, I don't put it past
Golden State. I don't know if they're talented enough, but
with that chemistry, they might be able to overachieve. And
I would not be surprised if they got to the
conference finals. I don't think anybody getting past Denver, but
I could see them getting there ahead of Phoenix. Phoenix
(33:34):
is way more talented. They don't have nearly the same
kind of chemistry or leadership. And then one of the teams,
one of the teams that I'm going to I'm gonna
give kudos to are the Dallas Mavericks, and I do
not think I would be doing that. But Luca Datis
has come back, looks to be in better shape. Kyrie
Irving is playing some of the best basketball, most efficient
basketball I've ever seen him play. They have what I
(33:58):
didn't think was going to be a one to two
parts punch, the one two punches that Luca likes to
play slow and Kyrie is playing fast, and so it
gives them kind of this one two punch offensively. And
then Derek Lively, the center that they acquired from Oklahoma City,
the rookie center. He's giving them rim protection. Derick Jones
(34:20):
was a nice pick up. He's coming in playing with
the desperation of somebody who knows that if he doesn't
perform now, he might be out of the league. So
they've they've again I kind of put him. They're they're
like the Nix of the West and that you know,
make the playoffs, maybe second round. I'm not I'm not,
(34:41):
you know, I'm not. I'm not looking at them as
being contenders or elite, but they're the demonstrated that they're
far better than I expected them to be. And with
the talent that Luca and Kyrie have, like if you,
if you, if you do away with the distractions and
it's just about basketball, those are pretty Those are two
pretty fun players to watch work their craft.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well, let's be honest, if Yannis keeps getting tossed like
he did tonight, it's gonna be for a lot of
teams rick watching this ejection. And there's nothing he did.
There's not only nothing he did to warrant that technical.
When he tried to talk to the officials, none of
them wanted to talk to him. I look at it
and I go, are these just officials that come in
and they have one a certain way of thinking for
(35:26):
this game? Or because I look at it as do
they really think people come to the games to watch
him officiate, like like the short temper they have and
throwing them out.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
I mean, that was absolutely ridiculous. What happened tonight?
Speaker 7 (35:37):
You know what, I really really bothered me, and I
don't I can't recall the specific referee that he went
up to to ask, but that referee was so he.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
Was dismissive, like, you know what you did get out
of here?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (35:57):
That clear? You need to explain it to the rest
of us, because we're all looking at it like, yeah, did.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
He kind of mean mug whoever he dunked on?
Speaker 6 (36:05):
The guy was right there.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
And it was a split second, and you're going to
inject someone for that kind of reaction is just it
was a mistake, and then to pretend like it was
obvious only compounded what I didn't like about it. But
(36:28):
I would say this, and look, I'm usually I am
usually defensive when it comes to the referees. I know
how hard the job is. I think they get way
too much criticism. I hate the conspiracy theories like they have,
you know, preconceived notions in terms of who they want
to win or any of that stuff. But I will
(36:50):
say this, the league told us coming into the season
after we got beaten up in World Cup competition.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
The indicase that I was getting.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Were that the competition committee had decided, you know what,
we need, we need to allow a little.
Speaker 8 (37:06):
More physicality back into our game. And I thought I
saw it like through the first I don't know, three four,
let's say the first week of the season. I saw that.
I saw that we weren't blowing the whistle every time
there was contact. But for the last week, I've seen nothing.
But I saw it tonight multiple times in multiple games
(37:31):
where I'm like, why are well, why are we calling that?
Speaker 7 (37:36):
It's it is, It's just it's not attractive basketball. It's
why I believe that our play on the international stage
has deteriorated. And uh and and we were promised something
else and I don't know why they've reverted now. Sometimes
(37:56):
it's really difficult, you know, it's you do your job
and suddenly the bosses say we want you to do
your job a significantly different way, and you've been doing
it a certain way for over a year.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
It takes you a little bit.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Of time to fully make that adjustment. And I'm going
to say, I hope that that's what the case. That's
the case here, but h I was I was so
looking forward to it being more like real basketball than
you know, what if you drive to the basket and
you and you and you initiate contact and throw your
(38:35):
arms or you do something you react that you're going
to get a whistle. I'd hopefully gone away with that
because to me, it's just it's not it's not attractive
or conducive basketball for for the NBA overall.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Speaking of real basketball, I thought we were going to
get some from the Lakers on the road. Anthony Davis
uh injured and unavailable, but they go out and get
absolutely drummed by the Rockets now Owen on the road
this season, Rick I just told they were back.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
Yeah, yeah, I think this is another one.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
This is another one where I warned everybody, like everyone
is so excited about Rob Polink. It kept the band
together and look you at it, Christian Wood, oh my god, and.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
Cam Rettish and oh my god. I mean the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
The Lakers are going to be so good.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
And I'm like, you do a Lebron James just got
a year older, right, and you do know that Anthony Davis,
like you know it's it's so I'm not at all
surprised at where they are. I hope this slows down
what they looked like without Anthony Davis and the young
(39:44):
guns who just I think maybe this is the most
surprising thing for me when it comes to.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
The Lakers is there is absolutely zero intimidation factor when
it comes to Lebron or a d And I'm talking
about like the.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Young guys in the league who really haven't done anything yet,
who just are like, Oh, I'm gonna cook.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
That old guy. I mean, that is literally, that is
literally the way they approached it now.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
And I'm like, wow, it's I mean, and I can't
I can't fault them because you know, we we have
we have a few people who are pro Lebron, who.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
Are unfailingly pro Lebron, who have been talking up what
he's doing, how he's playing, and he's still playing like
one of the best in the league. And I'm like,
are we just looking at the box score? Or are
we is anybody looking at what's happened at the defensive
end of the floor, because he ain't guarding anybody, Like,
(40:43):
whatever he's scoring, it ain't enough for how whether it's
off the ball or on the ball, that he's being
he's being exploited. And and again I don't even say
this like it sounds like I'm ripping on on on
Lebron I'm not because.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Everybody, Rick, Now, every week, you know.
Speaker 7 (41:06):
What, I am going to rip him.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
But he's gonna like he's he's fifth or sixth on
the list.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
I've already got, like I got a top five, so
he's got you know, I want the listeners out there
to know, Hey, Lebron on my on my uh my
hatred list is uh, he's not even top five anymore.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Like Lebron doesn't matter. According to Rick Buker, That's what
he told Harvard and Smith.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That's a new feature, Rick, the top five most Hated
Things by Rick Buer, and then he.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
That list every week. That would be like therapy for me.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, we can do that. The five podcasts I.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
Think Zach isn't Zach love who does like the ten
things I like the most, you know whatever, something like that,
the five things I hate the most? Like it? I
like it.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
We're still gonna billion for the full hour, Rick, Yeah,
it didn't know. It's only a twelve minute therapy session.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And it's kind of like when a team falls out
of the top twenty five for the first time in
like ten years. It's Lebron falls out of the top
five for the first time in ten years.
Speaker 7 (42:15):
Rick Buker, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's on Twitter at Rick Buker,
That is at Rick Buker.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Check out the album Ball podcast as well. Rick is
always buddy, great times man. We'll talk to you soon.
And hey, if Wenby retires after tonight, we'll call you
back and come on and react to it.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
Uh you you got it, you got it.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
See you, Bunny,
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