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November 11, 2023 • 43 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon update NBA In-Season Tournament play. And the guys have all the latest BIG Ten prohibiting Jim Harbaugh from being on the sideline for the rest of the regular season.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Greetings and welcome.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
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(00:51):
of those nights we can Kevin over under counter. How
many times are gonna say the word bet? And I
think it's gonna be white a lot, three cool Francesa.
You can't count that we're gonna be saying bet an
awful lot after.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Bet, bet, bet, bet, bet bet Bet It is Fred
Flintstone kind of Friday Night.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Bett. Well more than forty one. I've already had like
six or seven. Bet bet bet bet bet bet you won't.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I bet, I will, I bet, I will, I bet
I will a huge story. To kick things off with that,
you have to have a big night in the NBA.
We already have upsets galore and college basketball.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Come on, it's the plan. It's the tournament, man.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm sorry, it's another night of the tournament. And you
know this because of the way your favorite team's floor
is painted. If you don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's a is this a Is this a tournament? Is
this an in season tournament game? Is it not? I
don't know. Just look and see.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
If the the floor is painted really weird, you know
it's an n season tournament game.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
That's how you know that sounds about right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
If the floor makes you want to throw up and
the walls start spinning around you, it is a tournament game.
It's like an offshoot of the Magic Johnson Twitter game.
How do you know if it's an NBA tournament?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Just look at the floor.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
If the floor looks like something ridiculously stupid, then you
know it's an NBA and sees a tournament game.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
All right, they wouldn't even let you see.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
The Celtics wanted a little bit of park A and
the NBA said, no, hey, we have it like a
stripe apart.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
No, no, you can't have it.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
No, we'd like a little throwback to the history of
our franch No.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Oh, that's a great idea that only people would like,
and it would be no, we're not gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
We'd like to put a giant image of the Leprechaun
from the leper Kahn movie series in Is that allowed?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Or a picture of Jennifer Aniston? Either one? Can we
have either one?

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Well? Even better? Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
But tonight begins with the story We've been waiting for
the hammer to fall. Wait, hit and Father Hamau we
waiting for the hammer to fall, and it's kind of fallen.
We get the decision on Jim Harbaugh after the scandal
of sign stealing, and the Big Ten has banned Jim
Harbaugh from coaching the remainder of the regular season as

(03:05):
the league disciplines the Michigan football program under its sportsmanship policy.
This amid the ongoing NSAY investigation into their in person
sign stealing ring which has been going on for the
last few weeks. Connor Stallion's the low level staffer who
had been accused of attending other Big Ten and other
college football playoff team games to try to steal their

(03:26):
signals illegally. We finally get the decision. Jim Harbaugh banned
for the rest of the regular season, much like his
suspension the beginning of the year. He can coach during
the week, he just can't coach the games on the weekend.
So maybe we're all back in the mix to coach
Michigan the next few weeks.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Maybe.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Hey, I was defensive coordinator for a half week two,
Steve Desager got to coach up potential overtimes. I know
you got a first half of the first game on offense.
That was pretty cool. Mike, I'm looking forward.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
To that good.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I mean, well, being the wizard I am, I had
all the signals, so I made us look real good.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now, before you think that Harbaugh is not gonna coach tomorrow,
this is Look. This is like a story out of
like nineteen forties college football, because now suddenly they've run
to court to get an injunction.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
To stop sprinting So are you're interrupting my dinner? Hard
all the Law and Order episodes.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
But wait, but when.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Your limitations expires at midnight?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, the judge they go to the judge's house and
the judge you're interrupting my family time or the judges
in on it like either one of those two things.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Is what's happening when you go to wearing?

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Is Ebenezer Scrooge Nights Night Camp and gown?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
So Michigan, Yeah, oh, it's the Ghost of Christmas future.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
So Michigan's playing left for Penn State. Earlier today Harball
was on it link came out Harball getting banned for
the rest of the regular season. Now, this doesn't mean
this the investigation is done.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Means before we get into the who's and what, we
got to tell you, where the thing's at is said
currently and this is Michigan is upset and they have
already filed an appeal to court to allow him to
coach in the game tomorrow against Penn State. Now, there
were initial reports that this court case was in front

(05:23):
of a former law student at Michigan who was actually
speaks on the Michigan Circuit to classes on campus. Now,
but that's been that's been debunked, and now it is
in front of a judge who actually does have a
University of Michigan, but doesn't speak for the school and
doesn't go on and.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Do appearances for Michigan.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
So this is where the injunction is in front of
right now tonight to get hard bought a coach. So
I'm just picturing everybody at Michigan, you know, again, at
the judge's door, you know, sign this right here, you go.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
We have to do it.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
This is this. We have to make sure by noon
tomorrow harbuzz in some kind of hotel room sequestered. This
is this, This is where I was hoping the story
would go, because this is just so much fun. Now
we're talking about Michigan in court on a Friday with
an injunction. Stop the presses, stop the presses, let him coach.
And now everybody's gonna go to bed tonight not wondering

(06:19):
if Harbo's gonna coach in the biggest game of the
day tomorrow in college football, the big nude kickoff on
Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
This is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
This is so well, it's it's it's good for us,
it's good for Fox good for nine a m.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Pacific time. You'll want to tune in find Fox.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Out in the dial.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Uh, you know, I come in a little.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Bit earlier and watch Big Noon kickoff and get after it.
I did the quick you know, Google search as you can.
I found the phone number to our office.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Oh you did so?

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Did you call?

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, I'll wanna try to get it for an interview. No,
I'm talking to you right now. Maybe at the break,
we'll see what kind of message. Michigan fans leave me
the blank alone. You have questions any other matters in
the county, please do leave a message after the don
But yeah, I mean the way this comes down, right,

(07:11):
you get the file, the injunction, the eleventh hour Friday man,
there's no such thing as a news dump in this
particular case.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Right, normally it's out Friday.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
You had the game is tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
You had to figure something out before the game.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Come on?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Well did you did you really have to?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Of course you did? You can. Big ten.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
It was like Frankenstein. Big ten members were Tony Petiti's
door with torches going, you give us some kind of decision,
We're gonna burn your house down courth. They were gonna
get something.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Before the game.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
You could have given him the old razzle dazzle. Instead
he went King Solomon and he split the baby. Oh right,
I mean you get a little bit of what you want,
but you know what, he gets to work with them
during the practice week.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Now look now that Now there's there's a lot to
get to in that, because the whole thing is that
this decision sucks, right, but not why you The decision sucks,
but not why you think because the punishment. After reading
the Big Ten letter, with a thirteen page letter they
wrote to the University of Michigan detailing their actions and

(08:12):
why they are suspending Harbaugh, they say the sign sealing
scheme is termed as quote, an organized, extensive, years long,
in person advanced scouting scheme that was impermissible. Tony Petiati,
Big ten commissioner wrote later in the letter, evidence gathered
by the NCAA and corroborated by other Big ten members

(08:33):
leads him to believe a significant portion of the violation
has been proven, with details of scope, intent, and individual
knowledge yet to be determined for additional penalties. So it
sounds like they have the goods, right, But what did
we get? We got a ridiculously stupid decision, because this
should be a big decision. This should be whoa, you

(08:54):
caught our ball man?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
This is it.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
This is some kind of ineligibility thing for the school.
This is a sign stealing scandal. You got them right,
you got them right handed with all this. But instead
you get a let's.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Placate everyone ruling.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
And that's why this decision sucks because it's Tony Pettitien
in the Big Ten going boy. All the schools are
breathing down my neck for some kind of decision because
they're pissed. Michigan keeps talking about due process and not
penalizing them and all we've heard the last few days,
or that hey, other schools are taking our signals too,
and we're gonna make sure that people know about that.
How do I make everybody happy? And that's exactly what

(09:30):
they tried to. Let's try to make everybody happy. So
everybody will stay off my back for a month while
we figure this thing out and while we continue to
go through all the evidence. So the Big Ten and
college football in general they can be happy because I'm
gonna sit the coach down. Michigan's gonna be happy because
I'm allowing them to stay eligible. They just can't have
their coach. This is stupid. It's a stupid decay. If

(09:53):
you have the evidence, you have the evidence. If you
don't have the evidence, you don't have the evidence, and
you say, hey, you know what, Sorry, I know you
guys want a decision, but we don't have it yet.
So you know what, suck it up. Everybody plays and
when we have it, we have it and we'll come
down with it. But this is what happens, Mike and
I say it all the time when a leaderless sport
tries to govern. And Tony Petiti is not a leader,

(10:13):
He's a guy.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
He's a guy.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Trying to run. Uh you know, he's not a big
ten guy. You know, he's come over to try to
try to figure things out. Oh, by the way, good
luck is the last guy couldn't do it. Now he's gone.
So you are a leaderless sport. And it's not just
for nil and changing conferences where no one can make
a decision and say they're powerless. When you try to
govern and you don't really have a leader, this is what.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Winds up happening.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
Well, I want to kind of keep everybody happy.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Where if you had a commissioner, if you had somebody
who was in charge of the sport that could control
things like nil and conference realignment and all these things,
you could say, hey, this is my ruling. I am
I run college football, and this is my ruling. And
Jim Harbaugh is allowed to coach until we figure this
out or we have enough evidence and Michigan's ineligible to
win the Big Ten, you have some kind of strong decision,

(10:58):
but instead you get this. But like I said, this
is why college football needs a commissioner. They need some
kind of governing body because stuff goes off the rails.
But we look at off the rail stuff like nil
and conferences and it doesn't matter because everybody's getting paid.
When you look at something like this, that's fabric of
the game and morality and you got to keep your
house in order, you get stupid crap like this only
because that's the way it is. It's a leaderless sport

(11:21):
and you can't govern when you're leaderless.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Well, I would love to see what Michigan's presented in
the Yeah, but they did it two side of things,
which I wonder if that's sitting in a giant file
on the commissioner's desk, and he's going, I can only
come down so hard.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
We still got to parts through all that crap as
it goes.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
You know, this is where the lack of involvement, the
lack of control, the lack of really any standing anymore
of the NCAA is at its best, right where the
conferences themselves have done what they want. And I find
it funny, And forgive me if you've seen it. I

(12:02):
wrote this down and immediately it was the didn't you
just poach a bunch of schools from another conference? And
now we're talking about fair play and all this other
stuff and trying to parse out what's real what's imagined
in this fictitious show game you guys are all playing. Yeah,
you know, you had a conference, you had all these agreements,

(12:25):
but the hell with it, Like you let him fight
it in court.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
You're gonna be members of the Big ten.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Now.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Wait, you might have stolen signs and you had some
guy going around and really fifteen thousand dollars. I keep
coming back to that as a matter of pragmatism. I mean,
the guy's allegiance to the to Michigan. His next level
of making all those trips and accommodations for a whopping
fifteen grand.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
But I digress.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, I had a six hundred page plan to take
over Michigan. I know this was probably very early in
the manifesto. That's probably the first ten pages. Jason, how
many pages it takes to take over Syracuse football?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
One?

Speaker 4 (13:04):
I am the captain now and we'll beat Pit tomorrow
at Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
You just watch Yankee Stadium the.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, appreciate at home.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
So you get to this point where you've got all
the different schools, presidents and coaches and everybody else calling
for action. Well, you don't have to react immediately, like
if you're not ready, you're not ready, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Like that. That's unless three is the magic.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Number like we were taught on all those kids shows
back in the day, between that and conjunction junction or
or I'm just a bill. Uh, we we get our
threes a magic number. And so that's the the suspension.
So you don't want that moving target into your conference
title game?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Is that what we're doing?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
And why it needed to be adjudicated? Now as he's
getting on a tarmac, Look.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
What is it Monday night?

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Didn't we say, this is how it was gonna go.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
They're gonna suspend Harball just for this read to try
to make everybody happy while they figure it out.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
And that's exactly what happened today, exactly it.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah, so they tried to playcate everybody. But then you're like, wait,
he still gets to be in the facility and facilitate
everything in game planning. He just can't be on the sideline. Hell,
I'd be in the fifth row buying my own ticket
and just waving at the camera wherever I could.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Oh, this is just insane. This is college again, a
leaderless sport. Hey, we got to make a decision. Guess
what you're gonna bifit you can't.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Hey, hey, hey, but the money's gonna roll in. You know,
they can always quote unquote vacate those wins.

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Speaker 1 (14:44):
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Speaker 3 (14:59):
It is Jason Cole, Jake Cole. What's happening? Buden.

Speaker 7 (15:03):
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this is the groove man. Nothing says Miami like Casey
South Floorida, Baby, take me back to that nightmare. Okay,
what do I mean? Yeah, that lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Sorry, you are right there, budd, Okay, you're doing a whole.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Thing right there.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it again. Shake shake shake, yeah, Okay, yeah,
I'm sure my wife will have that que deup when
a little bit later.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
That's dude.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
I told my wife that screening and that she played
that music for you when you came back in the
car from your house last week, and she couldn't stop
laughing for like ten minutes. Just I'm walking into the
house going I'm done talking to you and Harmon and
I just want to decompress, and all of a sudden,
I gotta hear a song that I can't stand blaring
out of the loud speakers as I walk into the house.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
It's good, it really was. She has a good sense
with you, she really does.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
She kind of has to be. I mean, you know
you can't.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
Yeah, Well, she listens to this every week. I'm not
sure why, but okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Period brilliance.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Extended.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
So, speaking of brilliant Bears Panthers.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Last night, wasn't it great?

Speaker 7 (16:29):
I don't know. I really actually did not watch the game.
I have to be Yeah, we have friends over for dinner.
I was cooking, and you know, we were trying enjoy company.
And I take a look and it was like, well,
only not really scoring very many points. And Bryce Young
doesn't look any good. Tyler Badget, like badget, I don't

(16:51):
need no stinking badgeant, or you know, like I just
don't you know, like that's just not that's not appeeling.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
I'm sorry, it's not to do deep dives on both
coaches and some idiotic decisions that they've both made.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
The deep deep dives into two horrible teams, one that
can't protect a quarterback that it's like praying will not
get hurt while it's got terrible offensive linemen. And the
other one is like, god, Campfields, just get healthy so
we can make a decision. Please, can he get healthy?
You know, like it's just a bad situation.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Well, I got to say, the only thing you really
missed last night was the big Vince Evans touchdown pass
that won the game for the Bears.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Outside of that, that's it.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
Wow, seventy two year old Vince Evans came off the bench.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Still he.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
Always wanted to break, you know, George Blanda's record of
playing a bet the oldest player in the league. So
Vince gets his shot, all right.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
So let me ask you this now, because I know
you've been tweeting a lot about the forty nine ers
the last few days, and Mike and I talked last
hour about this. Who's got more pressure on him on
Sunday Brock Purty individually, Brock Party or Zach Wilson individually
the game on Sunday Perty or Wilson.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
Well Party because they're actually supposed to be really good,
Oh right, that team, Like he's suppout to lead a
team to a super Bowl. Zack Wilson is not what
I mean. Zack Wilson is a stand in for the
guy who's supposed to have the job. There's no real
pressure on Zack Wilson others.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
He's got to lead the team to get back to
that to Aaron Rodgers for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
That's what he's got to do.

Speaker 7 (18:36):
Stop it. With the Jets. Just stop it. It's not
stop it, just let it go. It was there's some
fun stuff to watch, but let it go. It's not.
You watched what what happened in that game, you know,
like that was that was painful to watch.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
You wait till we're talking about Tim Boyle on Monday.
You went Tim b Man touchdown.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
You wad Frostburg fly all the way across the country
to watch that. You know, like you made him go
through that kind of pain. You knew what that was about,
and you did that. You know, you know, that's something
you're supposed to make Patrick do, right, You're supposed to

(19:16):
punch Patrick because he's the low man on the total mold.
But no, because he's a fuck up and goes Big
Bike and Big Jason. You know, like you guys just
treat him with kid gloves and meanwhile, Frostburg is working
his rear off over there. No, he has to go
watch Zach Wilson and the Jets. That's what you do
to your people. That's the kind of pre Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay, why are you so obsessed when Frosburg is off
traveling with the Chargers. Why are you so obsessed? Why
are you so obsessed with how the producer answers.

Speaker 7 (19:50):
What kind of thin skin do you have that? I
just I have a little joke here. You can't even
go with the joke. You have to explain that Frost, you.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Know, why work the Charger.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's not times now, You've done this joke eleven times.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
It's an elaborate way of you saying, it's not my fault.
It's not my fault. It's not my fault. That's all
you're doing. The guilt gets to you because of the
way that you treat Frost. Trotsburg especially prepared to Patrick.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, he did the advanced scouting of the schedule. The
Chargers are home this week though, and the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
That's how about that one?

Speaker 7 (20:27):
I love that game. I love that. There's four games
on the schedule that I really like. You know, it's
Cleveland Baltimore's really really interesting game. Although they might score
only ten points combine. It was the under over of
that game eighteen and a half thirty one. God, I'm
taking the.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Under Iowa Rutgers less than that game.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Yeah, there's that game. There's obviously the forty nine Ers
in Jacksonville. That's important because forty nineers got to start winning.
I texted, I texted one of my my buddies who
coached with the forty nine ers, are like, will you
win an f ing game this week or something? You know,
like can you get anything done? He didn't take it.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Well, well you're well wait, you're texting Jim Tom Sulla.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I didn't know that you had that time.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
Somebody's actually on the team.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
So that's oh okay, all right, sorry.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah it was Kyle, So, uh, hey, can
you win an f game? So we've got a little
upside about that.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Hey could the.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Chargers scoring up in the second half to beat the Lions?

Speaker 7 (21:38):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Wait, but no, I want to know more about this
text with Kyle Allegedly Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
I don't know. You just said, Kyle, it could.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
Be emphasize allegedly. Okay, just and be done with it. Okay,
just do that, all right? Oh mister and mister investigative reporter.
Alleged phone call, yeah, or alleged text message. Just it's alleged.
It's a joke. Okay, Well throw out.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
The term sources too. I mean that'll work. I mean
that's what we do in our business.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
I text. I texted a forty nine Ers source and said,
win an e f ing game. Well, yeah, that's that's it.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Just if it really was Jim Tom Sule, you got
to tell us, you have to tell us.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
Sorry, I protect all of my sources, so no matter what.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Very good.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
So yeah, Chargers, Chargers Lions. Dan Campbell takes on LA.
Does Dan Campbell plant a flag somewhere on Rodeo Drive
if they win? Does that happen?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Wow? That would be interesting, that would be fun.

Speaker 7 (22:50):
What he like every time that Dan Campbell wins a
road game, he should plant a Lion's flag in some
significant spot in that say, that's what he should do.
Now in LA? Which do you pick? You plant a
flag at Santa Monica Beach? Do you go to Rodeo Drive?

Speaker 3 (23:10):
You put it right on top of.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
The Hollywood sign so you can see the Hollywood and
then see Alliance flag?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (23:15):
Right, yeah, And it should be the size of one
of those letters. And if he carries us one of
those all the way up that hill, he might pass out.
But that's okay. Yeah, Like that's what he should do.
Every time they win a road game, Dan Campbell should
plant a flag in that city, That's what I think
should have.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
The cameras follow because he's running through the streets like
it's like it's the Olympic torch when a guy's carrying it.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
He's just running with the flag.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
So great. I love Campbell. He's so symbolic. It's just
so great.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Dude, he might the year in the NFL. This him
or Demiko Ryans might be the coach of the Year
in the NFL.

Speaker 7 (23:55):
Absolutely, Like I made an argument in a column that Mike,
considering how bad they are on offense and how they've
been outscored by thirty points, like he deserves it too.
The only problem is this is a problem that Mike
Tomlin also helped to create by having met Canada. So like,
he's overcoming himself and in this process.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
So well, it's a hero's journey, Ja Cole, It is
a hero's journey. He made some bad choices and now
he's trying to get his life right.

Speaker 7 (24:28):
He keeps he keeps running Matt Canada out there and
that terrible offense and the whole George Pickens thing is
really fascinating to me because he's doing his best to
not take on Pickens publicly, and he wants to deal
with it privately. Obviously that's what he's doing. But Pickens

(24:50):
and Pickens has a point about the fact that he's
not getting the ball enough. But he's such a terrible
player in every other away, like the fact that he
didn't get his feet inbounds on the TV. You know,
he's a really terrible, super talented player. That's what you know.
This is the conundrum of George Pickens because like Deyontay

(25:13):
Johnson scores a touchdown and he like heads back to
the bench without even like going to high five as
team bates, right, guys run past him, you know, and
he doesn't even come close to trying to block anybody, right,
Like there's four different guys on this one run by
Najie eris two weeks ago and he's in the neighborhood,

(25:33):
and it was like he suddenly had an allergy to
physical contact, like it just you know, and it was
possibly a death allergy, like if he touched any other
human being, he might die. That's how pathetic his effort
was on blocking. And then there was earlier in the season,
you know, the season opening, it's forty nine ers when
he didn't run out a deep route when Ticket threw

(25:54):
it to him, and he's complaining about Picket when Picket
is trying to throw it to him and he doesn't
run out routes. I don't know how you deal with
Pickens because his logic is so twisted that he's you know,
it's like I'm not working hard for the ball, but
I'm going to complain about not getting the ball, and

(26:14):
it just drives me insane. And I don't know how
Tomlin is not is not trying to, you know, like
you know, throttle him literally.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carbon
live from the tirag dot com studios. NFL insider Jason
Cole with us here on the show. All right, j Cole, So,
of all your four favorite games, right, I mean and
I mean watching George Pickens do whatever, you know outside
of things. Of your four favorite games, your favorite game,
give us your pick.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
I think San Francisco goes into Jacksonville and wins that game.
I think that they find a way even with Deebo
still not there. And I don't know if Trent Williams
plays this week, like when.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Supposed to be back, and Trent Williams is kind of
up in the air. That's kind of what the But.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
Diva is supposed to be back, but I don't know
how much, like, you know, like I didn't get a
sense that a sense from people that they are expecting
them play full game. Trent is the one that they're
also really really worried about because they they got to
get him healthy. But somehow, some way, I think they're
going to pull this one out. But Jacksonville, Jacksonville's path

(27:27):
defense is really bad. With the exception of one thing.
They get a lot of interceptions, and that's a really
valuable thing, but they give up a ton of yards.
Like they have a negative per play differential, and they're
much better team than that, Like they should have a
positive differential and should be a much more pronounced, you know,

(27:49):
you know, contending team. They are not right now. But
they're living on interceptions, and I always worry about teams
that live on interceptions that eventually the interceptions start to
dry up.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Jason, go ahead, let me grab one last one before
we get over to Steve de Sega. Here Metal stand Baltimore,
Cincinnati and Philly. Those are three best teams in the
NFL right now.

Speaker 7 (28:14):
Baltimore or Cincinnati. You said, yeah, I got Cincinnati. You know,
I'm not quite there. I'm not quite there with Cincinnati yet.
You know, I still think there's some what they're playing
much better football, but I want to see it for
more than three or four games. So if it's Baltimore
and Philly, Philly is the better team because with their

(28:36):
defensive linemen up front, they can create havoc much more
and I think that they're more consistent offensive line. But
Baltimore's like, if ever Baltimore is going to win a
Super Bowl with Lamar Jackson quarterbacks, this is the year
that they should do it because their defense is playing
at such an extraordinarily high level. Not not really super

(28:58):
talented upfront, but playing playing really really effective. If ever
there's going to be a year, Baltimore's got to take
advantage of it. Of it This year, Shelley is sort
of like they're flexing their muscle when they need to,
But they still screw around with games too much, like
the Washington game two weeks ago, and even the Dallas game,

(29:21):
like they should have put Dallas out of the misery
a couple of times in the fourth quarter, like they
took control of the game but they just kept letting
Dallas back in it and make Dallas believe that they
actually had a chance, and then all of a sudden,
Dallas did have a chance at the end of the game.
And that's where I worry about where the Eagles sort
of consistency in state of mind.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
He is Jason Cole.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
He is a pro football insider, He is a pro
football hall, a very good voter.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Check him out on thirty five.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
I'm a texting I text people like crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yes, maybe or maybe not texting Kyle Shanahan and let
you know, Vince Evans is sixty eight years old.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
You gave him four extra years. He is sixty eight
years old.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
Vin Sevans sixty eight years old. He still would have
broken Blanda's record. All right, guys later.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Se y Jkle, There goes Ja Coles.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
I got to fun visit.

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Speaker 1 (30:24):
Jim Harbaugh has been suspended by the NCAA, or actually
by the Big Ten. Will not coach tomorrow or for
the rest of the season in the Big Ten unless
the courts grant his appeal and he coaches tomorrow on
the sideline, which is what's happening right now? What is
going to happen? No one better to talk to than
the owner, editor, proprietor of College Footballnews dot com. Every

(30:49):
bit of analysis, predictions, prognostications you want. It is longtime
friend of the show. He's on Twitter at petefeud Tech.
It is the aforementioned pete feud Tech.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
What's happening, Buddy?

Speaker 8 (31:00):
I was gonna say, you're so sure about not Harbaugh
coming out in the field of that team tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Oh no, No, I look, listen, the the court cases
is in front of a person who got their BA
from the University of Michigan.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
I think he's going to run out of the tunnel tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (31:17):
That's number. By the way, I think they're judge three
because I think the first two actually give lectures of Michigan,
so that literally I think that's actually what's happening here.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
So I know the first one, it was the first
The first judge was someone that was on the lecture
circuit at Michigan.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Yeah, And the second one, I think is a Michigan
Grand So I think there's gotten a little bit here.
But look, first of all, if you're a Michigan fan,
you're if you if you kind of dive in it,
it's all seems scary, but this is kind of you
got it. You got your team back coming. You know,
it's it's it's very nice, very nice. He's cuts there

(31:55):
that court Jason be netty r I p SkyPoint is
that you guys would get that. But look, first of all,
if he doesn't go out and do this tomorrow, he'll
probably be back in the sidelines for Maryland. And even
if he's not, kind of doesn't matter, because really it's

(32:16):
are you able to get in the game plan and
be part of the practices. He's not barred from the team,
that would be the bigger, bigger punishment because then you
can because at this point the game game plan's always
already in the assistance basically do all the work. He
just kind of does the speechy thing and then you know,
maybe says whether to go for it or not on
fourth down, so uh, it matters, but not really, And

(32:38):
then he's still able to coach in the Big Ten Championship,
though under the suspension and the CFP. So even if
he is suspended, if they win tomorrow, he's still gonna
have a shot to coach pavleagainst Ohio States. Again, He's
even if he if it's a three game suspension, if
he still beat to win out, he's coaching in the

(32:58):
Big Ten Championship. And again, all that really matters here
is the NCAA tried to say if the language in
this thing is they're saying, yeah, get them, get them,
get them. The Big Ten's like, nah, we don't really
want to get our team. And so they tried to
spread the needle with this suspension thing because the process
takes years sometimes to do this right if you're the NCAAA.

(33:22):
And so the Big Ten saying, NCAA, now you want
to take our team away from our conference, you go
get them, And the NCAA is saying Big Ten here,
we got it, go get them. And the Big Ten's
just not going.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
To do it, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
But that's my problem with this is either you have
the evidence or you don't. And if you don't have
the evidence, you say, sorry, I know you want blood
other Big Ten coaches, but we don't have it right now.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Or if you have it.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
You say, hey, we got it, and we think this
should be Michigan should be ineligible. But this is the
problem when you have a lull four that tries to
adjudicate something like this. It's not just nil and conference realignment.
You need somebody that could take charge of this and
not just have Tony Petiti try to walk out and say, well,
I want to keep Michigan happy, I want to keep
the rest of the Big Ten happy. I want to

(34:08):
keep the rest of college football happy. Because that's just ridiculous.
It's like, but what's that When you have a lawless sport,
it's hard to enact the law.

Speaker 8 (34:15):
And it doesn't help that Michigan's not giving an inch,
Like you would think that Michigan at some point leaders
in best you know, you know this above approach, this
this bastion of higher learning and education and all that stuff,
would kind of be like, yeah, you know, we're going
to kind of self impose some stuff here, and no,
not even a little bit. They didn't even hear this

(34:37):
counter stallions, guy, what is we don't we don't do
any of that, right. They are absolutely denial on every
part of this. So there's nothing there to work with.
So there's enough.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
To your point, it's not even.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
Just the lawlessness of the sport, it's the murkiness of
the rule book because there are no rules technically in
the Big Ten whatever it is that they have against
anything that we're talking about here, and so it's the
NCAA that has the rules. And even then, the NCAA
rule book is a legal disaster with loophole left and right.

(35:15):
And if harv was not giving an inch and not
saying it didn't know anything, well then basically, so if
you look at the wording and what the Big Ten said,
they're not punishing Harbaugh. They're punishing the University of Michigan
by taking away its football coach from the sidelines for
three games. So they don't have it. I mean, we
can all say.

Speaker 7 (35:34):
You know, of course, come.

Speaker 8 (35:35):
On, we've got the evidence, and the NCAA is saying
we've got the evidence until you don't. And there's a
appealed process here to this whole thing again, because Michigan's
not even trying to take any culpability for this.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
So after Harbaugh appears on Big Noon Kickoff coming out
to the nWo theme from wrestling all those years ago,
who wins the game.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
Oh Michigan, it's look, you still got to block and tackle.
It's you still have the game plan in place, and
you can steal all the signs you want. You still
have to deal with the Michigan offensive line. That really
doesn't matter if they know what the signs are or not.
They're still gonna just keep running the ball on you.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
So uh.

Speaker 8 (36:19):
And the thing about this too is the Penn State
offense bill doesn't have it. I mean, they through the
ball a couple of times down the field of the
last two games, and they're probably gonna get up early,
They're probably gonna score fast, they're probably gonna do something,
the crowd's going to get into it, and then everything
will kind of stubble and they don't have a consistent
enough attack to be able to do this. So uh,

(36:39):
there's a matter of harbors out there. But us, I
think Michigan wins this thing, and I think they.

Speaker 7 (36:44):
Kind of, you know, keep this thing going.

Speaker 8 (36:46):
Now, if you're the big ten, you got your Penn
State pom Poms out because if Michigan loses, they just
made your life a whole heck of a lot easier.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, Well, Pete, listen, don't forget Kurrz going in the
third game.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
He's not with us Putech Comic Footballnews dot Com Insider
our guests right now, All right, let's get to the
other big game.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
We have a top ten game, Georgia hosting Ole Miss.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Georgie's kind of so far this season, they've done everything
is expected, but we're not wowed by them.

Speaker 6 (37:13):
Is this still a great Georgia team? Could they go
home with an el tomorrow?

Speaker 7 (37:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (37:18):
This is the full disclosure. In January, I called this
is Old Miss, and I've stuck with ole Miss through
the off season and now now that we're here, it's
like an event. It all works out. You're right, Georgia
is just kind of okay. And Ole Miss has the
exact type of team that can pull this off. They've
got the pass rush, they've got the lines to hold up.

(37:39):
You don't have the running game you probably would like,
but they've got enough athletes and talent on, you know,
for the passing game to.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
Hit them a little bit. I like him to cover.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I can't.

Speaker 8 (37:50):
I can't go all in and say it's going to
be Ole Miss outright, because Nan and Kiffen doesn't win
these games because he doesn't have the talent that Georgia has.
But I will be stunned if it is some sort
of wipeout Georgia whiteout. And if it is, then it's like, Okay,
George is here and here we go, and that's the
Georgia we're looking for. But I do think that the
Rebels are just kind of that good to hang around

(38:12):
and make this a little.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Bit of a game with everything swirling USC Caleb Williams
and all of that fun stuff, Michael Pennis Junior getting
more of a spotlight. They're eight point favorites at home
with the Utes come into town. Can the Utes pull
off the upset?

Speaker 8 (38:28):
Yeah? I like I like this one too, And look,
Utuck can run.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
You know.

Speaker 8 (38:33):
That was the kind of the thing about that that
USC Washington game is as fun as that first half was.
That was all about the Washington ground game, and that's
not happening against Utah. Utah doesn't have enough of a
passing game, so if Washington gets up fast, there's gonna
be a problem for the Utes. But that be and
that those lines are just good enough where they can

(38:54):
hammer away, they can control the clocks, they can keep
pennicks on the sidelines, and yeah, you know, we all
remember the Oregon game.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
We were with it.

Speaker 8 (39:01):
They struggled against Arizona State, they struggled against Stanford, they
struggle against Arizona. Their last four games have all been
really tight. So I do think that this is going
to be the UKA might have the team that could
get this done if the passing game can at least
be Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
All right, Pete, let's get to USC and Oregon. You know,
we have the big nude kickoff, then we have the
late game on Fox. Caleb Williams a lot of under fire,
crying with his mom last week after the l Oregon's
trying to stay in it here. I know you and
I probably both like the over, which I think is
almost an eighty at this point. But is there any
way that USC can pull the upset in this game?

Speaker 8 (39:44):
Yeah, First of all, like Bristol as a whole, all
these people, like either college kids, even Caleb Williams, you know,
these are still I mean, all the pressure in the
world is on this guy's shoulders. And so he already
lost the Heisman, he already lost the national championship, and
that the game pretty much meant they're not going to
go to the pack cub title and that's really kind

(40:04):
of it for his college career. And you know, I
again the college dude, that's it. You know, that's we
know how emotional this is. So I kind of have
a problem ripping on guys for that. And I don't
actually kind of like the over because I the Oregon
defense is good enough to kind of keep USC not
Notre Dame like where nothing was working in that game,

(40:25):
but just to keep it down just enough to keep
USC at like twenty seven is sure. So I don't
think the Trojans are going to go off and hang
forty five on the board in this Oregon will Oregon
is go, will be more than happy to come get
off the bus with forty eight points. I don't know
if USC carries.

Speaker 7 (40:42):
Its weight in this one.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Pete.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Obviously, the game of the week is happening in Iowa City, Iowa.
The Hawkeyes one and a half point favorites at home.
Can how much emotion will be shown if the Hawkeyes
actually push this to the over of twelve you needed
team thirteen.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
It's all.

Speaker 8 (41:02):
It's so ridiculous. It's I it defies on and I've
been burned on it week after week after week. They
went to freaking overtime last week and they still couldn't
do anything because it's played a stupid baseball field, like well,
you know they found in that end zone exact. Yeah,
in fine points though, but yeah, they don't have they

(41:25):
don't have any offensive Rutgers certainly has the defense to
keep this low, but it's just too offensive. I know
it's a trap. I'm falling forward again and I'm going
to keep picking the It's my personal belief if you
have a college football total of thirty five, you always
always always go over because one team has a shot
just to get it by itself, no matter what. In

(41:47):
twenty eight's just again, it's ridiculous, like it could be
twenty seven to two. Rutgers could win this thing. I
mean it's but we know. But the problem is, I'm
saying this and I know the final score is going
to be ten sticks kill me.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Seven and a half. Baby, Oh, it's so beautiful.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
I know it.

Speaker 8 (42:04):
I know in my heart that I'm gonna get refreshed
after I look over at something and it's gonna be
three nothing Rutgers with like six minutes to play, Like
we know how this works, and yet you can't. I
just it goes against everything in my body to say,
you're giving me a twenty seven and a half. Now,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
You can follow on Twitter at Pete few Tech that
pew Tech, Pete who also stares at a candle until
his eye goes blind because it helps his batting eye.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Pete has always.

Speaker 8 (42:34):
Been read either yeah, hey.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Shoeless joke. Can you spell cat?

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
College Footballnews dot com is the site all the predictions,
all the prognostications, all the analysis you could possibly want.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Pete is always buddy, have a great weekend. We'll talk
to you next week.

Speaker 7 (42:49):
Have a great one, guys, sayybody.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
I mean there's fun and then there's running obscure eight
men out lines with Pete few Tech.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
As soon as he dropped the first I'm like, oh,
we came to tonight, let's go.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Nobody cares about your batting average book.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
You know, you think about eight minut and people who don't.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
It's a movie about the the Black Socks of nineteen
nineteen that through the world series, and you would say, hey,
here's a movie, Well who was in it? Well, okay,
so Michael Rooker and yeah, yond Zach Right and David
straight Fair and you're like, whoa wait what, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
these are the stories and.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Christopher Lloyd right, wait a Minute're like if you're a
movie buff and you know and like like, there's gonna
be a certain percentage of folks that you know other
than Cusack, don't know the other names there, and then
you start talking about what they're associated with. It's like, oh, wow,
that's that's some pretty pretty big lineup of heavy hitters
right there. Oh and don't let me figure Charlie Sheen

(43:44):
is in the movie Wait what Bill and Bill Irwin.
He was mister Noodles, Mister mister noodle
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