November 14, 2023 • 41 mins
Jason and Mike update Monday Night Football between the Broncos and Bills. NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the show for all the latest on the Jets, Patriots, 49ers and the Jags. And the Legend of Josh Dobbs grows! Plus, Jason explains why the New York Jets need a new head coach.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:52):
and I love it especially more tonight because of the
game going on. I can postpone having to talk about
the Jets, so it's good. So I like Monday Night Football.
I like the fact that Bill's stink and Josh Allen
is turning to a quarterback where I don't know what
kind of throzy things they can make. But I kind
of dig this so far. We can kick that can
down the road a few minutes with the Jets to night.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well that's the beauty of a Monday night and a
Thursday night football game. And I'm gonna stay right straight
into this camera, and I'm gonna say, for the sake
of America, I know it will never happen. Too much money,
too much commerce going on, okay, but for all our sakes,
night games have to go the hell away because they
all stink week after week if we get one every nine,
(01:35):
So Thursday night, Sunday night and Monday night.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
No wait, wait, hey, you always wait now, hang on,
hang on, No, No, I've known you for how long now?
About a decade? About a decade. Yeah, since I've known you,
I think the first thing you said to me is
I celebrate them, celebrate them all. No, no, the Rams, No, No,
you celebrate them all. You say it all the time.
I'm saying, I will. You're in there, proper, I'm trying
(02:01):
to do this.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm looking out for the players and for your eyes
and ears.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But you just a lot of it, and you're done
with them. You start to say no, No, they're still
part of the two seventy two. But my point is
we need to move them. We need to move that.
I have to love some less than others.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
No, No, you said this to seventy two of them
all equally. We know we still have to rank them
one through two seventy two on a season.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But the point I'm trying to make here it is, anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
The players clearly don't like playing at night because they
give us terrible, terrible efforts time and time again. How
often are you saying the under isn't even being challenged
in these games? The announcers don't want to be there,
You don't want to watch it. Tell me your eyes
weren't bleeding watching your team yesterday. I think your phrases
(02:51):
I celebrate them all.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I do. I think that's your eyes but that but
you're parenthetically putting equally in. But you just say you
sell it, you celebate break them all all to seventy Yes,
that means like if you had two hundred and seventy
two children, you love them all, you say, oh so child,
then not all equally? Go ahead, No, not all equally?
Not at two seventy two. I can do it. At
too them all, but I can't do it at you. No,
(03:13):
I all.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I love all to seventy two, love them, but but
you know they're less of them. Well it's like multiplicity.
But you see you like all the Michael Keaton's the same.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No, you don't. You celebrate all of them. You celebrate
them all. I celebrate them all. I tell me you
don't celebrate all. Holiday is a little bit different. I
might have heard you say that phrase, I don't know
one hundred and fifty times in the last nine and
I still celebrate them all. Yeah, right, but you just
said now these now you don't celebrate these No.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
No, I celebrate these games, but I want them moved
to the daytime because Monday afternoon for yeah, because clearly
there's something wrong with the body glots and the ability
to put on a good performance in the evening that
we are seeing time and time again.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And it's not just because of the matchups. It's not
just because of the matchups.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, these players are coming out the bullet that Josh
Allen threw to Gabe Davis that went right through his
hands interception.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So you're not.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Celebrating this game?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Now that I'm here live in the Fox Sports Radio.
Now you're celebrating the second half kicks off. Now you
celebrate every damn cell. Okay, celebrating.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You wanted to get rid of this game. You wanted
to be a different time during the day because you
were first. You celebrate all of them. Now you're not
celebrating this game. But now you're here we started. You're
celebrating again.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But I was.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I was speaking on behalf of America and me and
for the NFLPA, for the.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Fact that you did. You do not say that you
do not you do not to performance. You know you
do not say I celebrate them all for America and
for the NFLPA.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That is not part of what you say. That is
what I've tried to say. You're part of what you
say is no. Look, that's a better catchphrase. I celebrate
them all. Now we're getting into the nuanced conversation about
nighttime football and what a trash can ever not We
seemed again on a regular base, no.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Way more exciting. The Bears and Jets though, Dude, watching
test pack and you were exciting, and it's an exciting game.
It was great. Forty one to thirty eight. Is an
exciting game, Mike. Yeah, that was exciting. There's a lot
of points. It was excited. Pam's family was doing backflips. Man,
I'll tell you they're so. I thought the end wasn't
exciting for me, but the game was very exciting. Yeah,
(05:19):
I mean it was. It was seven seven, fourteen, seven, fourteen, fourteen,
twenty one, fourteen, twenty one, twenty one, twenty two.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I celebrate defense. I mean I'd like to see some
played now and again. No, but now maybe I think
maybe you don't celebrate defense. Maybe now you celebrate defense.
I don't like nighttime defense, so I don't celebrate that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Now. I don't know. I can't tell you.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I can't talk feel life. There's a nice good celebrate
their their shields when they're wearing the shields.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You celebrate our show, our shows at night. You celebrate
our show, of course. Okay. I'm here every night.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Okay, though, but it's at night, you're okay, yeah, But
I bring performance, okay, for four hours each night. So
I would argue some of the NFL players and the
announcers on certain telecasts, those who will not be named,
maybe yet.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Don't Jason, you want to talk about Mike's performance performance.
I mean, the guy showed up late three times this week.
You went to performance his performance. You've got to be
asked me a question like that about Mike Harmon's performance. Well,
I try to think of something three times. Oh, look
at Jason taken Roll, the guy at three Home Runs Office.
I was trying to think of something at the three
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The Buffalo Bills so far have not. Early in the
third quarter, the Broncos have the football. They are leading
(06:45):
this game fifteen to eight thanks to numerous mistakes from
the Bills. Three turnovers in the first half, two picks
by Josh Allen, a fumble by James Cook, and the
Bills just aren't the Bills. You're way back when we
start started previewing the season, way back, because you know,
ahead of the curve. When I said, yeah, I don't
(07:05):
know about the Bills this year just because the calendar
turns and they come so close every year. This is
not the same Bills team, right. They have new they're
trying to work in Dalton Kincado. Took him a while,
but now finally he's a big weapon, has a touchdown tonight.
But they can't run the football. Josh Allen is trying
to do way too much. The defense isn't quite what
it was in years past, and maybe the Bill's window
(07:28):
to win a Super Bowl has closed. And this is
way the beginning of the summer. Hey, you know, I
don't know. And then things started to get a little weird.
Stefan Diggs nodded practice is he holding out? Does he
want more money? Josh Allen had to have a press
conference saying no, everything is fine, Everything is fine, but
still is to fan Diggs missed some time. This has
not been the smoothest ride for Buffalo going into the season,
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and you have seen it manifest itself. They lose opening
night to the Jets and Zach Wilson. I mean, really,
that lost to Zach Wilson just looks so bad. Every
week it looks worse and worse, and they in an
up and down team all year. They have weeks where
they look like, okay, the Bills look great, and they
have weeks like tonight where they struggle. And a lot
of it is Josh Allen doesn't get the ball in
(08:10):
the right place. He takes a lot of chances. He's
gone from I have so much confidence in what I
can do, and normally that's great. And the thing is,
he's got pretty good playmakers at receiver, right, you know,
Gabe Davis is a pretty good number two. It was,
and you know, and now Kinkaid has become you AWA's
supposed to be the next Travis Kelsey. The last four
weeks he's picked him up. Stefon Diggs is still Stefan Diggs,
and still the Buffalo Bill struggle because the offense isn't
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quite what it was. They can't run the football as much.
Alan is not as accurate. The defense isn't quite what
it was either. It's just a little bit of erosion
from this team. But because it's Allan and Diggs every year,
you think, well, they're gonna be great, right, No, they're not.
This is why they struggle. They lose this game. They're
five hundred. I mean, this is a five hundred Buffalo
Bills team that so many people thought he this is
(08:53):
a super Bowl team. No, I told you the Bills
were gonna struggle. It's important.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
He brought up Gabe Davis because, like I said, the
ball went with lean straight through his hands. Okay, you're
a professional receiver. It's going near your gloves and through
your gloves. Grip the damn ball, right, I mean, that
was a play that Allen delivered. They were on the
Denver twenty eight moving the ball instead. It's an interception. Look,
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and they all count the same.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's like winsor can be ugly as long as you
get them right. I mean, that was the Dan Campbell's
speech in the locker room. Don't listen to whatever they're
hard to come by. Celebrate everyone, that's what That's what
I love all two seventy two because then it goes
away for a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But now you love them all. I still have to rank.
You just said you didn't celebrate. You're not celebrating.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
No, see, no, you're you're just twisting my word. You're
just trying to contort what I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Hang on, Hang on, ty Shirt frostburg is harmon is
anything being contorted here or did five minutes ago? He
just go through out. I don't like these night games
and then but I do celebrate all of them, and
now he celebrates the eight minutes of the opening segment.
Would say. Otherwise, I will say, I'm confused. Oh, well,
that's okay. I mean, you're not the biggest sports. That's
(10:09):
that's not he It's a lot of sports. It's too
much sports, too much.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
The point of making those like you brought up Gabe
Davis as a number two, Well he's regressed and he
is an every third week guy at this point. You've
seen Khalil Shakir in the last couple of weeks become
a bigger part of the offense. Dawson Knox was once
a part of the offense. He's gone through some injury issues,
but yeah, Kincaid, it's taken some time to get going.
He's got the touchdown reception tonight. He also had you know,
(10:34):
a ball sale through his hands that he should have
caught earlier, so you know, Alan, Yeah, the second interception
was just awful and allowed Denver to convert and and
put tack on another three before the end of the half.
But you know, all in the commitment to the run
game has been suspect. Coming into last week, James Cook
was top seven in the league in terms of rushing
(10:57):
yards at averaging over four and a half yards, Yet
they would go away from it. Latavious Murray, who you've
seen a little bit tonight. He's given them a nice
spark now and again since coming in. Yet they'll still
go away from the run game. I love Josh Allen
more than anybody. You remember you were sitting here with me.
I championed him when nobody gave a damn about Josh
Allen as he airmiles what seemed like a very makeable
(11:20):
throw to end a possession. But the idea is it's
all been on his arm, in his leg. Defensively, they've
had attrition. You've lost two of your key members of
your back seven for the year. Mulano's loss is absolutely
huge for this squad, and they're trying to piece it
together as they can. You've brought in, you know, guys
(11:40):
at the deadline and guys that hit free agency, but
trying to recapture what they had a year ago. Yeah,
it's been a feudal effort to this point. How much
of it is on Ken Dorsey, how much of it
is Sean McDermott has hit his ceiling, and then some
we'll talk about coaches on hot seats. I gotta imagine
he's getting to a little boil. It's it's just not
(12:02):
the same team. Now, maybe it's a case of it's
a reload after you, hey, what we thought we had,
we had too much erosion, But it's it's just not
the same team. And they weren't the same team coming in. Eventually,
when you get to ten weeks and you're still struggling,
this is kind of who you are, sure you know,
and there's no one coming to ride to the rescue,
and it's it's Josh Allen making better decisions. It's it's
a lot of things that you're gonna You're asking a
(12:24):
lot to turn a team into a into a really
good team again. Well, also recovering from how last season ended,
not just the playoff laws, but all the DeMar Hamlin
and energy and everything that that went through in that process.
And that's not an easy thing to just come right
back together and think that you're gonna recapture whatever. If
you believe in momentum or not that that it's just
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gonna be set it and let's just fly again. Because
the division also got better. There's in the AFC as
a whole got better. There's some teams that put up
some real head scratching performances on Sunday for US but Orleans.
Some of them you could argue they didn't give you
much of one.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It was last night. That was all last night. All
the bad performance was last night. All of it was
last night. I found a nice second screen experience watching ELF.
It made me feel better.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, we're gonna hear from Josh Allen coming up in
about five minutes. He was not happy following the bills loss.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Thank you you.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Did you look in the mirror and yell blank me
while I was at it, I mean, look it. It's
We talked about the struggles of Josh Allen, the turnovers
and the two things to potentially help fix him a
few minutes ago. But so we'll hear from him coming
up in a few minutes. But let's talk about the
Broncos here for a little bit because we have to.
I gotta yeah, because I got to give them all
(13:53):
kinds of credit because this was a season that was done.
They were one and five and they were gonna ride
show on Peyton out of town like this was it.
Sean Please, Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson in town everybody, and
they're gonna they were gonna. They were gonna take away
the two Super Bowls from the late nineties. They were
gonna erase John Elway from the Hall of Fame. All
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of these things were gonna happen. Look, if Cole.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Can't get the Cowboys guys out, it's extraneous Cowboys out.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
He ain't getting nowhere. This is a team that we
thought had quit on Sean Payton when they lost the
Dolphins seventy to twenty. Right, they beat the Bears and
then again you know Bears well, but again that was
one of the game of two halves.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Like that first half they look like they quit right
right right, and they were getting bullied up and down
the field, and then all of a sudden you had
the most improbable fourth quarter comeback to take a thirty
one to twenty eight victory away. And you know, any
hope that I had that my team's season was salvageable.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Then you had the Nathaniel Hackett revenge game against the
Jets where the Jets win, and then the loss to
Kansas City where your defense plays pretty well, and you
are sitting at one and five like that's it, Like
you're done. Season's done. Sean Payton already, you're wondering what
kind of control he has. You're wondering if, even though
he's made Russell Wilson a little bit better this year,
(15:12):
is Russell Wilson gonna survive who's gonna win that battle
between he and Sean Payton? Your season is over? And
I thought they it was like everybody else, it was over.
And then what happens. You beat Green Bay? Okay, well,
Green Bay's got a lot of problems and Jordan Love
isn't very good. But then they beat the Chiefs and
(15:33):
the defense plays incredibly well and they take advantage of
every single Buffalo Bill's gift tonight. They were not the
better team on the field tonight, They just made less mistakes.
But it doesn't matter because you're talking about three straight wins,
this one on the road, and now they're in the
mix to be a playoff team. They are rare one
game out of the playoffs at four and five. Well,
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one of the big things you don't beat yourself. You
take advantage of these spots on the schedule. Right, you
have the Chiefs, that was you know, the NFL scheduling
of the Hey we'll give you another division battle here
in the middle of the season. You know, two weeks
after you played.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Him, and they win that game going away, Chiefs having
their issues obviously offensively ahead of their bye week, and
the Packers look there, Jordan Love, he makes some great throws.
And then there are times where that team just they're maddening,
just like so many other teams in the NFL. But
you got a three game winning winning streak, and now
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you go to Sunday night football against everybody's darling. We
talked about it earlier in the show. Grabbed the podcast
before you hear it anywhere else is the Josh Dobbs Show.
Because we got Denver in Minnesota on Sunday Night football.
But you got a team that has suddenly sparked a life.
Courtland Sutton. He had a fumble, but he had a big,
big game. Otherwise, a number of catches a touchdown reception
(16:53):
for Russell Wilson. Say what you will, it's completing two
thirds of his passes and he's got four touchdowns per
pay Right. It hasn't always been exciting. And the defense
with Vance Joseph, even with getting rid of some of
their defensive front, especially like Randy Gregory when he was translate,
all right, the white flag is at half mast, when
(17:14):
will it go up?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Fully?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And Patrick Sartain, we keep hearing more and more teams
while we were, you know, all the mystery teams popping
up that oh yeah, yeah, we inquired and they kept
him around. All of a sudden, the defense plays a
pretty good ball.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Again.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
You take advantage of the schedule and where you can,
and in this case, when the team just decides, here,
we don't need this anymore. Take the football, as the
Bills did multiple times tonight, and you use it to
her advantage. Game with a comedy of errors, they deserve
to lose at the end, we've already chronicled that. But
they get the w and now they're positioned to potentially
(17:48):
make a playoff run, which is just unbelievable considering a
month ago we were all you know, with our little tools,
like we were members of the Flintstones, carving out little
sayings and epitaphs for their demise.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
They are the Broncos, are the personification of the Undertaker.
It's good, just like, ah, they're dead, they're dead. Oh
wait no, and I'm sitting up right. If it was
before Halloween, wud be the Michael Myers chiff when he
sits up after. But it's the Undertake. I am you
were dead, We're dead. I'm sorry, you're dead. You lost
seventy to twenty, you lost to the Jets, you're one
and five, you're dead. And then suddenly, no, we are
(18:26):
sitting up and rising for no reason whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Globally bigger like recognition. If I were to say to
someone Michael Myers or the Undertaker.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Oh oh Michael Myers, Undertaker global Myers, Global, Michael Myers,
Michael Myers.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, see big United States, Michael, he might, he might
outweigh The undertaining has been a thing now since since
nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, the Undertaker behind nineteen, nineteen, ninety one, nineteen. But
people don't go all a sudden, go crazy. He dressing
up as the Undertaker, Michael Myers Michael Myers. He owns
a holiday. The guy owns a holiday.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Come on, you haven't seen a bunch of little kids
running around like the Undertaker and Personal Pringle.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
No, I have not.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You would. I've not seen any little kid ever dressed
up like Paul Bear running around with the ashes of
former conquests.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I did try it at one point to pull that out.
I was rebuffed.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Oh boy. Uh. Now, Russell Wilson is a different conversation
here because watching him play all season, right, I said,
look that the three biggest topics this year going into
this season, Look, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets were number one,
Cowboys is always going to be number two, Russell Wilson
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and Sean Payton is going to be number three. We've
gotten to see a lot of Russell Wilson, and what
I see from him now is this He's not the
quarterback he was, but he's also not the quarterback from
last year. Sean Payton has gotten to him to Wow,
this is the best version of what you're gonna get
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from Russell Wilson the rest of his career. Like this
is this is this is his top level performance? Is
he gonna throw for three hundred and fifty yards and
win games anymore. No, he's not gonna do that. Is
he gonna go crazy and scramble for seventy five yards
and again? No, But once in a while, is he
gonna scramble for a big play? Yeah? Is he gonna
make clutch plays and throw a couple of touchdowns a week? Yeah?
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He's not that player when he was an MVP caliber guy,
but he has gotten close enough to it where, Okay,
he's now in the upper half quarterbacks of the NFL again,
and you can win a little bit with him. He's
got a guy that's gonna age slowly at this point
because now he's in the right look. And we watch
Sean Payton succeed with every quarterback he's ever had, and
(20:54):
it took a little bit of time. But now he's
on that pace with Russell Wilson where he's gonna throw
for two hundred yards and a couple of touchdowns every game,
and you know, maybe he turns it over, but he'll
also have times when he tucks the ball and runs
for a big first down here and there, like he
did tonight. He's not gonna run like he did earlier
in his career. He's not gonna run around thirty yards
behind the line of scrimmage and then flip one forward
to Tyler Lockett or Doug Baldwin for fifteen yards. But
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he's close enough to that version that you can win
with him. He got Doug Baldwin in. I like getting
bubble talk about the guy with MVP votes, So I
feel confident that now they've gotten him back to that
point where if you're going forward with Russell Wilson, you
feel a lot better than you used to. Where this
guy's wash and he's done at the end of the season.
Everything's now it's like, Okay, well maybe they can coexist,
(21:38):
maybe both of them can come back. Maybe this will
work now, because a couple of weeks ago it was
not gonna work. And Russell Wilson's gone and and so
and Sean Payton's on his last gas chance. He may
get run out of town. And now it's Hey, get
these guys another offseason together and and and some time
to fix a couple of things and get a couple
more good wide receivers in there. Hey, maybe things can
wind up working here. This is what has happened over
(22:02):
the course of the past month with the Denver Broncos.
But this is the truth of Russell Wilson. He is
now the best version of himself. He's going to be
for the rest of his career.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Again, cited some of the stats coming in tonight and
what he was able to do. I mean the big
play that I think personifies where he's at. He was
willing to absolutely get hammered on the play where he
threw the touchdown pass to Javonte Williams, waiting that extra
second for him to finish off his route and catch
(22:32):
him in the end zone instead of maybe forcing to
throw a bit earlier or getting impatient and trying to
make a play with his leg.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
He stood in and he took a hit. He took
a huge hit.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But as he's on the ground, he sees that Williams
was able to secure the pass and you got the
fist pump while still entangled with the defender who was
there just about a quarter second too slow, otherwise obliteration
and maybe that ball goes sailing up in the air
or you get a fumble altogether. But for Russell Wilson
and for Sean Payton, bye, we came at a good time.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
You're starting to turn in the right direction, you get
the Bills at the right time where they're all out
of sorts. I mean, Josh Allen coming into this game
had been twenty one and five coming off a loss,
and this game was just awful in so many ways.
They still had a chance to steal it. So credit
to Denver taking advantage as they did. Obviously relying on
(23:27):
your field goal kicker repeatedly, sometimes we'll come back to
bite you in the ass. And there were some special
teams gaffes that will need to be cleaned up. But
you escaped Buffalo with the w You didn't have to
jump through any tables, and then you get to go
back back home and start this next second the second
half of your season.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So there it is for the Denver Broncos. What about
the Buffalo Bills. We promise you'd hear from Josh Allen.
Here is the Bills quarterback who met the media a
few moments ago talking about the loss to Denver.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
That sucks.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Shouldn't have been in that position in the first place.
It's a lot of bad football, a lot of bad football, Josh.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It looks like a couple of times there were in
trouble with the exchanges with James Cook. You know, obviously fun.
It looked like there were a few times there were
some issues.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Look was into that, right, I mean just getting getting
more reps at practice.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
That's just something we can't have John throw.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
This rough pat for the offense. You've maintained your confidence,
say you guys have We'll be able to turn it
around at some point after this performance? Do you remain
confident after all the quote and to use your words,
a bad football that was put on display tonight.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, I'm still confident, But there's no state with flocks
taking you know that have emergency.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
You know what leads you still confident in the offense
after it's been so many weeks of kind of the
same story here.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Couldn't have done it before.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Mitch five and five hope people will get.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Well, it's not ideal, I think now is it's gonna
be the real test for this team, not so much
on Sundays, but how we stick together through this on
the week. Look at it objectively, and then I think
the best teams when when the pressure is at its highest,
(25:28):
uh and when and when everything seems to be crumbling,
is when they it's it's when it's you know it's
not and you come together closer. It's like breaking a bone,
right like when you heal it, it becomes stronger. So
for us, as we guess what we got to do
and very confident this team to do that. It's not
going to be easy, but like Josh said, the clock
(25:52):
is ticking and we just have to take this right now,
one day at a time. But at the same time,
look at everything objectively.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yea, T T take T take take, take, take, take, take,
take take. Are you still confident?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
This absolutely shattered me. Oh yeah, I won't be lucky
to ever get it together again.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I'm going to Wegmans, so I'm gonna get some stuff
and hang out and go have a sandwich, and then
I'll be bouncing you guys at practice tomorrow. I'll be there.
I'll see you.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I mean, I get it what you're asking there of,
you know, the lack of continuity, the exchanges. I thought
that was a pretty good question. But the are you
you know, have you lost confidence in your squad?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Now the great answer would have been Jets are still
running with Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, come on, and the Patriots are absolutely god awful.
All right, So let's just understand that. Uh So, there
it is. Hey, there's some truth with Russell Wilson, there's
some truth about the Broncos. All kinds of credit and
very upset Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
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Speaker 1 (27:09):
Joining us now on the Hotline Nobody Better to break
down this huge Week ten in the NFL. Longtime NFL
Inside to check them out on Odyssey, The Washington Post.
On Twitter at Jason Lock and four. It is Jason
lock and for alum of the two and zero Syracuse
basketball team at Syracuse University. Jay, what's happening, Bud?
Speaker 6 (27:28):
What's gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Everything?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I would say everything is good, but you know Jets.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So wait, who has it worse out there in Baltimore
area or your Jets.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
No, it's where I have it worse because the Ravens
are at least good. They just blew a game. I mean,
my goodness, my my whole existence is being called in
the question. Uh, let's let's start with the Jets and
we'll get to the Ravens look. Robert Sala comes out
and says, today, no changes. They're sticking with Za, sticking
with a play call or everything else. And and all
(28:03):
I can think of after that abysmal showing last night,
is boy really Joe Douglas and Robert Sala want want
to die on the hill of Zach Wilson. We're gonna
keep him as our court. We're gonna keep everything the same.
We're not gonna adjust how we call plays on offense
to make it better. We're not gonna no, no, no,
this is the hill we're gonna die on. I I
that's the most amazing part of it to me.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Jay.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
It's something, isn't it. It's kind of mind boggling, Like
I don't understand, Like go go find your Carson Wentz
or whatever, you know, like go find somebody off the
street co or somebody into coming there and you know,
making a couple hundred thousand whatever seven eight hundred thousand
(28:43):
dollars for the rest of the year or whatever it is,
you know, and try to sell them on the playoffs
like that. It's it's a joke. It's not fooling anybody.
It's not fooling anybody around the league. It's not fooling
anybody in that locker room. It's it's not particularly cute.
They keep lowering the bar for this kid to try
to justify it. But there's a reason why teams are
(29:06):
constantly looking to turn their roster and get better developmental quarterbacks,
get better backup quarterbacks, get better starting quarterbacks. And I mean,
Aaron Rodgers, how long ago was that? I mean the
fourth snap of the season. You've had a lot of
time to address that situation. And we've seen a lot
of quarterbacks. Just Dobbs has been traded twice this year.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, you know what I wouldn't give to have Josh
Dobbs quarterback of the Jets. I'd love to have Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Asolutely, it's lunacy that they did nothing, and it's lunacy
that they think they can sell this to people, and
most importantly, it's lunacy that they think they can sell
that in their own locker room. And for as plugged
in as solid you know thinks he is, and for
as much as they think they've changed the culture, and
(29:55):
they have certainly built a good defense, but like, come on,
that's you. There's somebody playing the CFL right now, who
can give you what Zach Wilson's giving you. I guarantee it.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
All Smith could do is start laughing. We'll sell fluty
flakes again, bringing back and be fantastic.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Right now because they're down on the playoffs and stuff.
But you know what I mean, Yeah, they're wrapping up. Yeah,
you look at the whole league.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, after they're done with the CFL playoffs, then there'd
be somebody there. Then somebody. Then Rogers will be back.
Because it's mid decembery back. I'll be fine, come on,
we'll be four and ten when he comes back. It'll
be great.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I keep trying to tell him, Hope. It's a dangerous thing. Jason,
you're already lucky.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
I mean, your record already flatters you, Like this has
come up. Hard to win in the NFL without an offense.
They can't score touchdowns, they don't. They do not score
offensive touchdowns. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, you look at the record and say, this guy
must be one hell of a coach with that hawfense
that he's walking out there. Although the indictment of Hackett,
like unless Aaron Rodts is under center. Man, you want
to talk about a guy that keeps collecting, he's looking.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Better right now. That fraud or Sean Payton remember that thing.
Remember when that was a thing?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's changed a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Sean Payton should shut up, keep his mouth shut about
what a fraud. Nathaniel Hackett is. Okay, I like it.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
The infighting, All right, let's go to Baltimore in the
second half collapse and I know a lot of handwringing,
and Lamar Jackson the topic of a lot of discussion.
I know, Harball says, hey, you just burn it and
move on right close.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Yeah, that's cute, but that's not reality. He also tried
to say, this kind of stuff happens in the NFL.
I mean it doesn't. It doesn't happen with this much regularity.
I mean, you go back over a couple of years
now and you look at blown games in the fourth quarter,
you look at own ten point leads in the second half,
you look at blown two score leads at home. No,
(32:06):
it doesn't. Nobody else is doing this with this regularity. Certainly,
not any good team that fancies itself a Super Bowl contender.
Certainly not any team who my guy, everybody I talked
to last week was like, tell me, you know, just
go ahead and admit it. The Ravens are the best
team in football. Like that, I gut's got bombarded with it.
And I'm like, really, well, you tell me a wide
receiver who can win downfield on this team, and you
tell me a team that allegedly is the best defense
(32:29):
in football that can't stop even mediocre quarterbacks from you know,
once every three or four weeks, wrecking their seasons in
the fourth quarter. It's just it's far too commonplace. They
have a roster flaw in how their offense is built,
and they have a character flaw in how they handle
(32:50):
four quarters of football collectively as a football team. And
they've been through multiple offensive coordinators and multiple defensive coordinators
and the same problem still. So there's certainly a very
good team, no doubt about that. Do I think they're great?
Do I think they're going to win a Super Bowl?
I don't. And I think they've opened the door wide
(33:13):
a jar now in the AFC North And they play
Cincinnati Thursday night, and if they lose that game, then
you know you're looking at them now having a below
five hundred record in the division. Right, you're looking at
some mounting AFC losses, and you're looking at a team
that still has a rivalry game with Pittsburgh Loomy, right,
(33:36):
that still has to go to San Francisco, that still
has to play Jacksonville. So we'll see they're not great
against the runs. The dirty little secret again about their
number one defense. They give it up in the fourth
quarter with great regularity. And again you take away Mark
Andrews like the Browns did, and you'll get Zay Flowers
(33:56):
running around underneath a little bit, and that's it. They
do not complete downfield passes of twenty yards and more
in the air, and I think that's kind of a
big deal in the modern NFL.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And if ll inside of Jason Locking for our guest
to Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen Lifrothtirec dot Com Studios.
All right, so from the teams at the top, let's
go to the bottom, where we saw once again another
horrendous Sunday for the Patriots. They bench Mac Jones, and
you know, the buzzards are circling for Belichick and Jones.
If I said to you, Jay, the Patriots season plays
(34:29):
out the rest of the way, like blank, what are
you gonna say? How's that? What do we see out
of them the rest of the season?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Not much. If you're Robert Kraft at this point, you're
probably just hoping you lose, right, yeah, I mean, let's
be real, like what it's two and eight. You can't
win at home, you can't win on a domestic soul,
you can't win on internationals. Like I feel like I'm
the cadhat. You cannot beat bad teams at home, you
cannot beat bad teams on road. You cannot beat good
teams anywhere. You embarrass yourself in Germany, like you know,
(34:59):
like what's the difference now? I mean, do you try
to get the first overall pick? I mean the answer
at quarterback isn't on the roster. I just think you
write it out and Belchick, you know, picks up with
another couple of wins along the way, the inch a
little closer to Shua and then he goes on his
merry way and you go on yours. That's what it is.
(35:24):
I mean now I think they're tied with now the Commanders,
or maybe they have one more win than the Commanders
for like twenty second and twenty third in the NFL
since the start of the twenty twenty season, since life
without Tom Brady, Like, the Raiders have two more wins
than them now since Tom Brady left. Like, and you
(35:45):
look at all the other teams that I wrote about
this in the Washington Post last week. Look go back
to twenty twenty. Look at all the teams from most
wins to fewest. Everybody behind Bill Belichick and Ron Rivera.
All the only like seven teams behind them have all
are already fired their coachince then most of those teams
have fired multiple coaches since then. So this is heading
(36:06):
in a particular direction for those two men. And they
won't be back next year.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
As we look at they'll be out the door. But
one guy looks like he's sticking around Kyler Murray. I mean,
we've all seen the reverse scramble, sprint for your life,
first down, pick up, he's back. James Connor came back.
So suddenly, hey, they're tanking and they're going to go
find a new quarterback. No, now, it looks like a
full rebuild around Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Right, move with that.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
I wouldn't get carried away with that. I mean Atlanta
is a flawed team. Atlanta's quarterbacks didn't combine for one
hundred yards passing in that game, and it took a
last second field goal to win at home, and they
weren't a prolific passing team themselves. I mean, Murray made
a couple of big plays scrambling, but it's you know,
he had Hollywood Brown once early for like twenty nine yards.
(36:55):
But and I get it if this is only his
first game back. But I wouldn't get too carried away
with any of those narratives. Yet. Let's see if he
even stays healthy between now and the end of the year.
Let's see how you know, he plays, and let's see
what it's all going to just come down to what
Bidwell wants to do. And the perfect storm for them
(37:18):
would probably be that he plays well enough that you
can move off them, and that they pick high enough
that they can get someone younger, cheaper, and potentially better.
There's there's been a lot of I mean, remember the
press releases and stuff. I mean, you know, forcing him,
you know, to study his playbook more like that stuff
doesn't go away, it doesn't get erased.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
All right, So if you're not believing in Kyler Murray.
We watched the forty nine ers yesterday. Get everybody healthy.
The first Moosa Young game turned out to be pretty
well for you. Are they back? Did they just hit
lightning in a bottle? What is it?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
No?
Speaker 6 (37:52):
I mean, I look, I mean that that you're talking
about adding guys who were, you know, among the best
of of breed at what they do it offensively begins
and ends with Trent Williams. I mean that is their everything.
What they can do in the run game with him,
how effective they start running outside and now the play
(38:12):
action is available everywhere and the quarterback can sling it
in the pocket and out of the pocket. I mean,
Trent Williams is far and away the guy who makes
their DVOA go their overall offensive efficiency everything the run
and the path, the whole kit and kaboodle. And again
if he's if he's healthy, from here on out, they're
(38:33):
going to be in pretty good shape. Even if you know,
a few guys here and there go down offensively and
then defensively. They obviously feasted and the Ohio State, you know,
reunion bookend thing there looks pretty damn good. And their
d line had been there underbelly. They were bad against
the run and they weren't generating the kind of pressure
rates that you're accustomed to from them. So we'll see
(38:55):
if if they fixed it. But that, yeah, that's the group.
If that roster that played that game in Jacksonville is,
you know, among the game day active for their playoff games,
then they're gonna be pretty damn formidable again, especially if
Trent Williams is among them.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, I'd like to go on the other side of that,
but that's gonna take like an hour to break down
what's going on with Jacksonville. So let's stick with Ohio
States Yalli CJ. Stroud now thirty to one for the MVP,
and it looks like they can chase down Jacksonville here
in the South.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Yeah, it's gonna be an interesting week here. I think
that they'll take care of business and wipe up Arizona
at home. I guess it could be a letdown spot
for them, but I'm not sure they've accomplished enough to
have those yet. And I really believe in what Themico
Ryans has them doing. And yes, Stroud's been phenomenal for
him to go on the road and Outdul Joe Burrow
(39:51):
facing a really good, proven playoff defense and having to
sort of comeback and overcome fumbles and that intersect was massive.
And I know what he can do against teams that
blitz him like crazy because they think he's a young,
you know, quarterback and we can rattle him. But the
way that the Bengals mix up their zone coverages and
(40:13):
they're not a big blitz team, and for him to
put up that kind of performance against them on the
road was really huge for me. So yeah, I don't
know about MVP, but he's obviously going to run away
with Rookie of the Year and he is the real deal.
And we'll see, you know, we'll see about the Jags.
I think this will be a get right spot for
(40:34):
the Jags against the Titans Tennessee on the road. I
mean not that they're good, period, but Tennessee on the
road is absolutely the dregs, you know. And Will Levis
has a ways to go, and that's becoming a parent.
I mean, him coming in playing one home game and
then what like this will be his third straight road game.
I think that's gonna be a tough stretch for him.
(40:54):
And I don't know that they'll chase Jacksonville down, but
it's certainly not out of question.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking For. That is at
Jason locking For. Check him out on Odyssey Washington Post
as well. Jay, as always, Buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Have fun, pleasure, gentlemen, enjoy the rest of the game.
Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:52):
and I love it especially more tonight because of the
game going on. I can postpone having to talk about
the Jets, so it's good. So I like Monday Night Football.
I like the fact that Bill's stink and Josh Allen
is turning to a quarterback where I don't know what
kind of throzy things they can make. But I kind
of dig this so far. We can kick that can
down the road a few minutes with the Jets to night.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well that's the beauty of a Monday night and a
Thursday night football game. And I'm gonna stay right straight
into this camera, and I'm gonna say, for the sake
of America, I know it will never happen. Too much money,
too much commerce going on, okay, but for all our sakes,
night games have to go the hell away because they
all stink week after week if we get one every nine,
(01:35):
So Thursday night, Sunday night and Monday night.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
No wait, wait, hey, you always wait now, hang on,
hang on, No, No, I've known you for how long now?
About a decade? About a decade. Yeah, since I've known you,
I think the first thing you said to me is
I celebrate them, celebrate them all. No, no, the Rams, No, No,
you celebrate them all. You say it all the time.
I'm saying, I will. You're in there, proper, I'm trying
(02:01):
to do this.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm looking out for the players and for your eyes
and ears.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But you just a lot of it, and you're done
with them. You start to say no, No, they're still
part of the two seventy two. But my point is
we need to move them. We need to move that.
I have to love some less than others.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
No, No, you said this to seventy two of them
all equally. We know we still have to rank them
one through two seventy two on a season.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But the point I'm trying to make here it is, anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
The players clearly don't like playing at night because they
give us terrible, terrible efforts time and time again. How
often are you saying the under isn't even being challenged
in these games? The announcers don't want to be there,
You don't want to watch it. Tell me your eyes
weren't bleeding watching your team yesterday. I think your phrases
(02:51):
I celebrate them all.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I do. I think that's your eyes but that but
you're parenthetically putting equally in. But you just say you
sell it, you celebate break them all all to seventy Yes,
that means like if you had two hundred and seventy
two children, you love them all, you say, oh so child,
then not all equally? Go ahead, No, not all equally?
Not at two seventy two. I can do it. At
too them all, but I can't do it at you. No,
(03:13):
I all.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I love all to seventy two, love them, but but
you know they're less of them. Well it's like multiplicity.
But you see you like all the Michael Keaton's the same.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No, you don't. You celebrate all of them. You celebrate
them all. I celebrate them all. I tell me you
don't celebrate all. Holiday is a little bit different. I
might have heard you say that phrase, I don't know
one hundred and fifty times in the last nine and
I still celebrate them all. Yeah, right, but you just
said now these now you don't celebrate these No.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
No, I celebrate these games, but I want them moved
to the daytime because Monday afternoon for yeah, because clearly
there's something wrong with the body glots and the ability
to put on a good performance in the evening that
we are seeing time and time again.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And it's not just because of the matchups. It's not
just because of the matchups.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, these players are coming out the bullet that Josh
Allen threw to Gabe Davis that went right through his
hands interception.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So you're not.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Celebrating this game?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Now that I'm here live in the Fox Sports Radio.
Now you're celebrating the second half kicks off. Now you
celebrate every damn cell. Okay, celebrating.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You wanted to get rid of this game. You wanted
to be a different time during the day because you
were first. You celebrate all of them. Now you're not
celebrating this game. But now you're here we started. You're
celebrating again.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But I was.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I was speaking on behalf of America and me and
for the NFLPA, for the.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Fact that you did. You do not say that you
do not you do not to performance. You know you
do not say I celebrate them all for America and
for the NFLPA.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That is not part of what you say. That is
what I've tried to say. You're part of what you
say is no. Look, that's a better catchphrase. I celebrate
them all. Now we're getting into the nuanced conversation about
nighttime football and what a trash can ever not We
seemed again on a regular base, no.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Way more exciting. The Bears and Jets though, Dude, watching
test pack and you were exciting, and it's an exciting game.
It was great. Forty one to thirty eight. Is an
exciting game, Mike. Yeah, that was exciting. There's a lot
of points. It was excited. Pam's family was doing backflips. Man,
I'll tell you they're so. I thought the end wasn't
exciting for me, but the game was very exciting. Yeah,
(05:19):
I mean it was. It was seven seven, fourteen, seven, fourteen, fourteen,
twenty one, fourteen, twenty one, twenty one, twenty two.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I celebrate defense. I mean I'd like to see some
played now and again. No, but now maybe I think
maybe you don't celebrate defense. Maybe now you celebrate defense.
I don't like nighttime defense, so I don't celebrate that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Now. I don't know. I can't tell you.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I can't talk feel life. There's a nice good celebrate
their their shields when they're wearing the shields.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You celebrate our show, our shows at night. You celebrate
our show, of course. Okay. I'm here every night.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Okay, though, but it's at night, you're okay, yeah, But
I bring performance, okay, for four hours each night. So
I would argue some of the NFL players and the
announcers on certain telecasts, those who will not be named,
maybe yet.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Don't Jason, you want to talk about Mike's performance performance.
I mean, the guy showed up late three times this week.
You went to performance his performance. You've got to be
asked me a question like that about Mike Harmon's performance. Well,
I try to think of something three times. Oh, look
at Jason taken Roll, the guy at three Home Runs Office.
I was trying to think of something at the three
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The Buffalo Bills so far have not. Early in the
third quarter, the Broncos have the football. They are leading
(06:45):
this game fifteen to eight thanks to numerous mistakes from
the Bills. Three turnovers in the first half, two picks
by Josh Allen, a fumble by James Cook, and the
Bills just aren't the Bills. You're way back when we
start started previewing the season, way back, because you know,
ahead of the curve. When I said, yeah, I don't
(07:05):
know about the Bills this year just because the calendar
turns and they come so close every year. This is
not the same Bills team, right. They have new they're
trying to work in Dalton Kincado. Took him a while,
but now finally he's a big weapon, has a touchdown tonight.
But they can't run the football. Josh Allen is trying
to do way too much. The defense isn't quite what
it was in years past, and maybe the Bill's window
(07:28):
to win a Super Bowl has closed. And this is
way the beginning of the summer. Hey, you know, I
don't know. And then things started to get a little weird.
Stefan Diggs nodded practice is he holding out? Does he
want more money? Josh Allen had to have a press
conference saying no, everything is fine, Everything is fine, but
still is to fan Diggs missed some time. This has
not been the smoothest ride for Buffalo going into the season,
(07:49):
and you have seen it manifest itself. They lose opening
night to the Jets and Zach Wilson. I mean, really,
that lost to Zach Wilson just looks so bad. Every
week it looks worse and worse, and they in an
up and down team all year. They have weeks where
they look like, okay, the Bills look great, and they
have weeks like tonight where they struggle. And a lot
of it is Josh Allen doesn't get the ball in
(08:10):
the right place. He takes a lot of chances. He's
gone from I have so much confidence in what I
can do, and normally that's great. And the thing is,
he's got pretty good playmakers at receiver, right, you know,
Gabe Davis is a pretty good number two. It was,
and you know, and now Kinkaid has become you AWA's
supposed to be the next Travis Kelsey. The last four
weeks he's picked him up. Stefon Diggs is still Stefan Diggs,
and still the Buffalo Bill struggle because the offense isn't
(08:32):
quite what it was. They can't run the football as much.
Alan is not as accurate. The defense isn't quite what
it was either. It's just a little bit of erosion
from this team. But because it's Allan and Diggs every year,
you think, well, they're gonna be great, right, No, they're not.
This is why they struggle. They lose this game. They're
five hundred. I mean, this is a five hundred Buffalo
Bills team that so many people thought he this is
(08:53):
a super Bowl team. No, I told you the Bills
were gonna struggle. It's important.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
He brought up Gabe Davis because, like I said, the
ball went with lean straight through his hands. Okay, you're
a professional receiver. It's going near your gloves and through
your gloves. Grip the damn ball, right, I mean, that
was a play that Allen delivered. They were on the
Denver twenty eight moving the ball instead. It's an interception. Look,
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and they all count the same.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's like winsor can be ugly as long as you
get them right. I mean, that was the Dan Campbell's
speech in the locker room. Don't listen to whatever they're
hard to come by. Celebrate everyone, that's what That's what
I love all two seventy two because then it goes
away for a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But now you love them all. I still have to rank.
You just said you didn't celebrate. You're not celebrating.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
No, see, no, you're you're just twisting my word. You're
just trying to contort what I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Hang on, Hang on, ty Shirt frostburg is harmon is
anything being contorted here or did five minutes ago? He
just go through out. I don't like these night games
and then but I do celebrate all of them, and
now he celebrates the eight minutes of the opening segment.
Would say. Otherwise, I will say, I'm confused. Oh, well,
that's okay. I mean, you're not the biggest sports. That's
(10:09):
that's not he It's a lot of sports. It's too
much sports, too much.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
The point of making those like you brought up Gabe
Davis as a number two, Well he's regressed and he
is an every third week guy at this point. You've
seen Khalil Shakir in the last couple of weeks become
a bigger part of the offense. Dawson Knox was once
a part of the offense. He's gone through some injury issues,
but yeah, Kincaid, it's taken some time to get going.
He's got the touchdown reception tonight. He also had you know,
(10:34):
a ball sale through his hands that he should have
caught earlier, so you know, Alan, Yeah, the second interception
was just awful and allowed Denver to convert and and
put tack on another three before the end of the half.
But you know, all in the commitment to the run
game has been suspect. Coming into last week, James Cook
was top seven in the league in terms of rushing
(10:57):
yards at averaging over four and a half yards, Yet
they would go away from it. Latavious Murray, who you've
seen a little bit tonight. He's given them a nice
spark now and again since coming in. Yet they'll still
go away from the run game. I love Josh Allen
more than anybody. You remember you were sitting here with me.
I championed him when nobody gave a damn about Josh
Allen as he airmiles what seemed like a very makeable
(11:20):
throw to end a possession. But the idea is it's
all been on his arm, in his leg. Defensively, they've
had attrition. You've lost two of your key members of
your back seven for the year. Mulano's loss is absolutely
huge for this squad, and they're trying to piece it
together as they can. You've brought in, you know, guys
(11:40):
at the deadline and guys that hit free agency, but
trying to recapture what they had a year ago. Yeah,
it's been a feudal effort to this point. How much
of it is on Ken Dorsey, how much of it
is Sean McDermott has hit his ceiling, and then some
we'll talk about coaches on hot seats. I gotta imagine
he's getting to a little boil. It's it's just not
(12:02):
the same team. Now, maybe it's a case of it's
a reload after you, hey, what we thought we had,
we had too much erosion, But it's it's just not
the same team. And they weren't the same team coming in. Eventually,
when you get to ten weeks and you're still struggling,
this is kind of who you are, sure you know,
and there's no one coming to ride to the rescue,
and it's it's Josh Allen making better decisions. It's it's
a lot of things that you're gonna You're asking a
(12:24):
lot to turn a team into a into a really
good team again. Well, also recovering from how last season ended,
not just the playoff laws, but all the DeMar Hamlin
and energy and everything that that went through in that process.
And that's not an easy thing to just come right
back together and think that you're gonna recapture whatever. If
you believe in momentum or not that that it's just
(12:46):
gonna be set it and let's just fly again. Because
the division also got better. There's in the AFC as
a whole got better. There's some teams that put up
some real head scratching performances on Sunday for US but Orleans.
Some of them you could argue they didn't give you
much of one.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It was last night. That was all last night. All
the bad performance was last night. All of it was
last night. I found a nice second screen experience watching ELF.
It made me feel better.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, we're gonna hear from Josh Allen coming up in
about five minutes. He was not happy following the bills loss.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Thank you you.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Did you look in the mirror and yell blank me
while I was at it, I mean, look it. It's
We talked about the struggles of Josh Allen, the turnovers
and the two things to potentially help fix him a
few minutes ago. But so we'll hear from him coming
up in a few minutes. But let's talk about the
Broncos here for a little bit because we have to.
I gotta yeah, because I got to give them all
(13:53):
kinds of credit because this was a season that was done.
They were one and five and they were gonna ride
show on Peyton out of town like this was it.
Sean Please, Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson in town everybody, and
they're gonna they were gonna. They were gonna take away
the two Super Bowls from the late nineties. They were
gonna erase John Elway from the Hall of Fame. All
(14:13):
of these things were gonna happen. Look, if Cole.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Can't get the Cowboys guys out, it's extraneous Cowboys out.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
He ain't getting nowhere. This is a team that we
thought had quit on Sean Payton when they lost the
Dolphins seventy to twenty. Right, they beat the Bears and
then again you know Bears well, but again that was
one of the game of two halves.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Like that first half they look like they quit right
right right, and they were getting bullied up and down
the field, and then all of a sudden you had
the most improbable fourth quarter comeback to take a thirty
one to twenty eight victory away. And you know, any
hope that I had that my team's season was salvageable.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Then you had the Nathaniel Hackett revenge game against the
Jets where the Jets win, and then the loss to
Kansas City where your defense plays pretty well, and you
are sitting at one and five like that's it, Like
you're done. Season's done. Sean Payton already, you're wondering what
kind of control he has. You're wondering if, even though
he's made Russell Wilson a little bit better this year,
(15:12):
is Russell Wilson gonna survive who's gonna win that battle
between he and Sean Payton? Your season is over? And
I thought they it was like everybody else, it was over.
And then what happens. You beat Green Bay? Okay, well,
Green Bay's got a lot of problems and Jordan Love
isn't very good. But then they beat the Chiefs and
(15:33):
the defense plays incredibly well and they take advantage of
every single Buffalo Bill's gift tonight. They were not the
better team on the field tonight, They just made less mistakes.
But it doesn't matter because you're talking about three straight wins,
this one on the road, and now they're in the
mix to be a playoff team. They are rare one
game out of the playoffs at four and five. Well,
(15:53):
one of the big things you don't beat yourself. You
take advantage of these spots on the schedule. Right, you
have the Chiefs, that was you know, the NFL scheduling
of the Hey we'll give you another division battle here
in the middle of the season. You know, two weeks
after you played.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Him, and they win that game going away, Chiefs having
their issues obviously offensively ahead of their bye week, and
the Packers look there, Jordan Love, he makes some great throws.
And then there are times where that team just they're maddening,
just like so many other teams in the NFL. But
you got a three game winning winning streak, and now
(16:30):
you go to Sunday night football against everybody's darling. We
talked about it earlier in the show. Grabbed the podcast
before you hear it anywhere else is the Josh Dobbs Show.
Because we got Denver in Minnesota on Sunday Night football.
But you got a team that has suddenly sparked a life.
Courtland Sutton. He had a fumble, but he had a big,
big game. Otherwise, a number of catches a touchdown reception
(16:53):
for Russell Wilson. Say what you will, it's completing two
thirds of his passes and he's got four touchdowns per
pay Right. It hasn't always been exciting. And the defense
with Vance Joseph, even with getting rid of some of
their defensive front, especially like Randy Gregory when he was translate,
all right, the white flag is at half mast, when
(17:14):
will it go up?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Fully?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And Patrick Sartain, we keep hearing more and more teams
while we were, you know, all the mystery teams popping
up that oh yeah, yeah, we inquired and they kept
him around. All of a sudden, the defense plays a
pretty good ball.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Again.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
You take advantage of the schedule and where you can,
and in this case, when the team just decides, here,
we don't need this anymore. Take the football, as the
Bills did multiple times tonight, and you use it to
her advantage. Game with a comedy of errors, they deserve
to lose at the end, we've already chronicled that. But
they get the w and now they're positioned to potentially
(17:48):
make a playoff run, which is just unbelievable considering a
month ago we were all you know, with our little tools,
like we were members of the Flintstones, carving out little
sayings and epitaphs for their demise.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
They are the Broncos, are the personification of the Undertaker.
It's good, just like, ah, they're dead, they're dead. Oh
wait no, and I'm sitting up right. If it was
before Halloween, wud be the Michael Myers chiff when he
sits up after. But it's the Undertake. I am you
were dead, We're dead. I'm sorry, you're dead. You lost
seventy to twenty, you lost to the Jets, you're one
and five, you're dead. And then suddenly, no, we are
(18:26):
sitting up and rising for no reason whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Globally bigger like recognition. If I were to say to
someone Michael Myers or the Undertaker.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Oh oh Michael Myers, Undertaker global Myers, Global, Michael Myers,
Michael Myers.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, see big United States, Michael, he might, he might
outweigh The undertaining has been a thing now since since
nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, the Undertaker behind nineteen, nineteen, ninety one, nineteen. But
people don't go all a sudden, go crazy. He dressing
up as the Undertaker, Michael Myers Michael Myers. He owns
a holiday. The guy owns a holiday.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Come on, you haven't seen a bunch of little kids
running around like the Undertaker and Personal Pringle.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
No, I have not.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You would. I've not seen any little kid ever dressed
up like Paul Bear running around with the ashes of
former conquests.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I did try it at one point to pull that out.
I was rebuffed.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Oh boy. Uh. Now, Russell Wilson is a different conversation
here because watching him play all season, right, I said,
look that the three biggest topics this year going into
this season, Look, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets were number one,
Cowboys is always going to be number two, Russell Wilson
(19:52):
and Sean Payton is going to be number three. We've
gotten to see a lot of Russell Wilson, and what
I see from him now is this He's not the
quarterback he was, but he's also not the quarterback from
last year. Sean Payton has gotten to him to Wow,
this is the best version of what you're gonna get
(20:13):
from Russell Wilson the rest of his career. Like this
is this is this is his top level performance? Is
he gonna throw for three hundred and fifty yards and
win games anymore. No, he's not gonna do that. Is
he gonna go crazy and scramble for seventy five yards
and again? No, But once in a while, is he
gonna scramble for a big play? Yeah? Is he gonna
make clutch plays and throw a couple of touchdowns a week? Yeah?
(20:34):
He's not that player when he was an MVP caliber guy,
but he has gotten close enough to it where, Okay,
he's now in the upper half quarterbacks of the NFL again,
and you can win a little bit with him. He's
got a guy that's gonna age slowly at this point
because now he's in the right look. And we watch
Sean Payton succeed with every quarterback he's ever had, and
(20:54):
it took a little bit of time. But now he's
on that pace with Russell Wilson where he's gonna throw
for two hundred yards and a couple of touchdowns every game,
and you know, maybe he turns it over, but he'll
also have times when he tucks the ball and runs
for a big first down here and there, like he
did tonight. He's not gonna run like he did earlier
in his career. He's not gonna run around thirty yards
behind the line of scrimmage and then flip one forward
to Tyler Lockett or Doug Baldwin for fifteen yards. But
(21:17):
he's close enough to that version that you can win
with him. He got Doug Baldwin in. I like getting
bubble talk about the guy with MVP votes, So I
feel confident that now they've gotten him back to that
point where if you're going forward with Russell Wilson, you
feel a lot better than you used to. Where this
guy's wash and he's done at the end of the season.
Everything's now it's like, Okay, well maybe they can coexist,
(21:38):
maybe both of them can come back. Maybe this will
work now, because a couple of weeks ago it was
not gonna work. And Russell Wilson's gone and and so
and Sean Payton's on his last gas chance. He may
get run out of town. And now it's Hey, get
these guys another offseason together and and and some time
to fix a couple of things and get a couple
more good wide receivers in there. Hey, maybe things can
wind up working here. This is what has happened over
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the course of the past month with the Denver Broncos.
But this is the truth of Russell Wilson. He is
now the best version of himself. He's going to be
for the rest of his career.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Again, cited some of the stats coming in tonight and
what he was able to do. I mean the big
play that I think personifies where he's at. He was
willing to absolutely get hammered on the play where he
threw the touchdown pass to Javonte Williams, waiting that extra
second for him to finish off his route and catch
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him in the end zone instead of maybe forcing to
throw a bit earlier or getting impatient and trying to
make a play with his leg.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
He stood in and he took a hit. He took
a huge hit.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But as he's on the ground, he sees that Williams
was able to secure the pass and you got the
fist pump while still entangled with the defender who was
there just about a quarter second too slow, otherwise obliteration
and maybe that ball goes sailing up in the air
or you get a fumble altogether. But for Russell Wilson
and for Sean Payton, bye, we came at a good time.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
You're starting to turn in the right direction, you get
the Bills at the right time where they're all out
of sorts. I mean, Josh Allen coming into this game
had been twenty one and five coming off a loss,
and this game was just awful in so many ways.
They still had a chance to steal it. So credit
to Denver taking advantage as they did. Obviously relying on
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your field goal kicker repeatedly, sometimes we'll come back to
bite you in the ass. And there were some special
teams gaffes that will need to be cleaned up. But
you escaped Buffalo with the w You didn't have to
jump through any tables, and then you get to go
back back home and start this next second the second
half of your season.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So there it is for the Denver Broncos. What about
the Buffalo Bills. We promise you'd hear from Josh Allen.
Here is the Bills quarterback who met the media a
few moments ago talking about the loss to Denver.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
That sucks.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Shouldn't have been in that position in the first place.
It's a lot of bad football, a lot of bad football, Josh.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It looks like a couple of times there were in
trouble with the exchanges with James Cook. You know, obviously fun.
It looked like there were a few times there were
some issues.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Look was into that, right, I mean just getting getting
more reps at practice.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
That's just something we can't have John throw.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
This rough pat for the offense. You've maintained your confidence,
say you guys have We'll be able to turn it
around at some point after this performance? Do you remain
confident after all the quote and to use your words,
a bad football that was put on display tonight.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, I'm still confident, But there's no state with flocks
taking you know that have emergency.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
You know what leads you still confident in the offense
after it's been so many weeks of kind of the
same story here.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Couldn't have done it before.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Mitch five and five hope people will get.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Well, it's not ideal, I think now is it's gonna
be the real test for this team, not so much
on Sundays, but how we stick together through this on
the week. Look at it objectively, and then I think
the best teams when when the pressure is at its highest,
(25:28):
uh and when and when everything seems to be crumbling,
is when they it's it's when it's you know it's
not and you come together closer. It's like breaking a bone,
right like when you heal it, it becomes stronger. So
for us, as we guess what we got to do
and very confident this team to do that. It's not
going to be easy, but like Josh said, the clock
(25:52):
is ticking and we just have to take this right now,
one day at a time. But at the same time,
look at everything objectively.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yea, T T take T take take, take, take, take, take,
take take. Are you still confident?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
This absolutely shattered me. Oh yeah, I won't be lucky
to ever get it together again.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I'm going to Wegmans, so I'm gonna get some stuff
and hang out and go have a sandwich, and then
I'll be bouncing you guys at practice tomorrow. I'll be there.
I'll see you.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I mean, I get it what you're asking there of,
you know, the lack of continuity, the exchanges. I thought
that was a pretty good question. But the are you
you know, have you lost confidence in your squad?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Now the great answer would have been Jets are still
running with Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, come on, and the Patriots are absolutely god awful.
All right, So let's just understand that. Uh So, there
it is. Hey, there's some truth with Russell Wilson, there's
some truth about the Broncos. All kinds of credit and
very upset Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
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Speaker 1 (27:09):
Joining us now on the Hotline Nobody Better to break
down this huge Week ten in the NFL. Longtime NFL
Inside to check them out on Odyssey, The Washington Post.
On Twitter at Jason Lock and four. It is Jason
lock and for alum of the two and zero Syracuse
basketball team at Syracuse University. Jay, what's happening, Bud?
Speaker 6 (27:28):
What's gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Everything?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I would say everything is good, but you know Jets.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So wait, who has it worse out there in Baltimore
area or your Jets.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
No, it's where I have it worse because the Ravens
are at least good. They just blew a game. I mean,
my goodness, my my whole existence is being called in
the question. Uh, let's let's start with the Jets and
we'll get to the Ravens look. Robert Sala comes out
and says, today, no changes. They're sticking with Za, sticking
with a play call or everything else. And and all
(28:03):
I can think of after that abysmal showing last night,
is boy really Joe Douglas and Robert Sala want want
to die on the hill of Zach Wilson. We're gonna
keep him as our court. We're gonna keep everything the same.
We're not gonna adjust how we call plays on offense
to make it better. We're not gonna no, no, no,
this is the hill we're gonna die on. I I
that's the most amazing part of it to me.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Jay.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
It's something, isn't it. It's kind of mind boggling, Like
I don't understand, Like go go find your Carson Wentz
or whatever, you know, like go find somebody off the
street co or somebody into coming there and you know,
making a couple hundred thousand whatever seven eight hundred thousand
(28:43):
dollars for the rest of the year or whatever it is,
you know, and try to sell them on the playoffs
like that. It's it's a joke. It's not fooling anybody.
It's not fooling anybody around the league. It's not fooling
anybody in that locker room. It's it's not particularly cute.
They keep lowering the bar for this kid to try
to justify it. But there's a reason why teams are
(29:06):
constantly looking to turn their roster and get better developmental quarterbacks,
get better backup quarterbacks, get better starting quarterbacks. And I mean,
Aaron Rodgers, how long ago was that? I mean the
fourth snap of the season. You've had a lot of
time to address that situation. And we've seen a lot
of quarterbacks. Just Dobbs has been traded twice this year.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, you know what I wouldn't give to have Josh
Dobbs quarterback of the Jets. I'd love to have Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Asolutely, it's lunacy that they did nothing, and it's lunacy
that they think they can sell this to people, and
most importantly, it's lunacy that they think they can sell
that in their own locker room. And for as plugged
in as solid you know thinks he is, and for
as much as they think they've changed the culture, and
(29:55):
they have certainly built a good defense, but like, come on,
that's you. There's somebody playing the CFL right now, who
can give you what Zach Wilson's giving you. I guarantee it.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
All Smith could do is start laughing. We'll sell fluty
flakes again, bringing back and be fantastic.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Right now because they're down on the playoffs and stuff.
But you know what I mean, Yeah, they're wrapping up. Yeah,
you look at the whole league.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, after they're done with the CFL playoffs, then there'd
be somebody there. Then somebody. Then Rogers will be back.
Because it's mid decembery back. I'll be fine, come on,
we'll be four and ten when he comes back. It'll
be great.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I keep trying to tell him, Hope. It's a dangerous thing. Jason,
you're already lucky.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
I mean, your record already flatters you, Like this has
come up. Hard to win in the NFL without an offense.
They can't score touchdowns, they don't. They do not score
offensive touchdowns. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, you look at the record and say, this guy
must be one hell of a coach with that hawfense
that he's walking out there. Although the indictment of Hackett,
like unless Aaron Rodts is under center. Man, you want
to talk about a guy that keeps collecting, he's looking.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Better right now. That fraud or Sean Payton remember that thing.
Remember when that was a thing?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's changed a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Sean Payton should shut up, keep his mouth shut about
what a fraud. Nathaniel Hackett is. Okay, I like it.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
The infighting, All right, let's go to Baltimore in the
second half collapse and I know a lot of handwringing,
and Lamar Jackson the topic of a lot of discussion.
I know, Harball says, hey, you just burn it and
move on right close.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Yeah, that's cute, but that's not reality. He also tried
to say, this kind of stuff happens in the NFL.
I mean it doesn't. It doesn't happen with this much regularity.
I mean, you go back over a couple of years
now and you look at blown games in the fourth quarter,
you look at own ten point leads in the second half,
you look at blown two score leads at home. No,
(32:06):
it doesn't. Nobody else is doing this with this regularity. Certainly,
not any good team that fancies itself a Super Bowl contender.
Certainly not any team who my guy, everybody I talked
to last week was like, tell me, you know, just
go ahead and admit it. The Ravens are the best
team in football. Like that, I gut's got bombarded with it.
And I'm like, really, well, you tell me a wide
receiver who can win downfield on this team, and you
tell me a team that allegedly is the best defense
(32:29):
in football that can't stop even mediocre quarterbacks from you know,
once every three or four weeks, wrecking their seasons in
the fourth quarter. It's just it's far too commonplace. They
have a roster flaw in how their offense is built,
and they have a character flaw in how they handle
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four quarters of football collectively as a football team. And
they've been through multiple offensive coordinators and multiple defensive coordinators
and the same problem still. So there's certainly a very
good team, no doubt about that. Do I think they're great?
Do I think they're going to win a Super Bowl?
I don't. And I think they've opened the door wide
(33:13):
a jar now in the AFC North And they play
Cincinnati Thursday night, and if they lose that game, then
you know you're looking at them now having a below
five hundred record in the division. Right, you're looking at
some mounting AFC losses, and you're looking at a team
that still has a rivalry game with Pittsburgh Loomy, right,
(33:36):
that still has to go to San Francisco, that still
has to play Jacksonville. So we'll see they're not great
against the runs. The dirty little secret again about their
number one defense. They give it up in the fourth
quarter with great regularity. And again you take away Mark
Andrews like the Browns did, and you'll get Zay Flowers
(33:56):
running around underneath a little bit, and that's it. They
do not complete downfield passes of twenty yards and more
in the air, and I think that's kind of a
big deal in the modern NFL.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And if ll inside of Jason Locking for our guest
to Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen Lifrothtirec dot Com Studios.
All right, so from the teams at the top, let's
go to the bottom, where we saw once again another
horrendous Sunday for the Patriots. They bench Mac Jones, and
you know, the buzzards are circling for Belichick and Jones.
If I said to you, Jay, the Patriots season plays
(34:29):
out the rest of the way, like blank, what are
you gonna say? How's that? What do we see out
of them the rest of the season?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Not much. If you're Robert Kraft at this point, you're
probably just hoping you lose, right, yeah, I mean, let's
be real, like what it's two and eight. You can't
win at home, you can't win on a domestic soul,
you can't win on internationals. Like I feel like I'm
the cadhat. You cannot beat bad teams at home, you
cannot beat bad teams on road. You cannot beat good
teams anywhere. You embarrass yourself in Germany, like you know,
(34:59):
like what's the difference now? I mean, do you try
to get the first overall pick? I mean the answer
at quarterback isn't on the roster. I just think you
write it out and Belchick, you know, picks up with
another couple of wins along the way, the inch a
little closer to Shua and then he goes on his
merry way and you go on yours. That's what it is.
(35:24):
I mean now I think they're tied with now the Commanders,
or maybe they have one more win than the Commanders
for like twenty second and twenty third in the NFL
since the start of the twenty twenty season, since life
without Tom Brady, Like, the Raiders have two more wins
than them now since Tom Brady left. Like, and you
(35:45):
look at all the other teams that I wrote about
this in the Washington Post last week. Look go back
to twenty twenty. Look at all the teams from most
wins to fewest. Everybody behind Bill Belichick and Ron Rivera.
All the only like seven teams behind them have all
are already fired their coachince then most of those teams
have fired multiple coaches since then. So this is heading
(36:06):
in a particular direction for those two men. And they
won't be back next year.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
As we look at they'll be out the door. But
one guy looks like he's sticking around Kyler Murray. I mean,
we've all seen the reverse scramble, sprint for your life,
first down, pick up, he's back. James Connor came back.
So suddenly, hey, they're tanking and they're going to go
find a new quarterback. No, now, it looks like a
full rebuild around Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Right, move with that.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
I wouldn't get carried away with that. I mean Atlanta
is a flawed team. Atlanta's quarterbacks didn't combine for one
hundred yards passing in that game, and it took a
last second field goal to win at home, and they
weren't a prolific passing team themselves. I mean, Murray made
a couple of big plays scrambling, but it's you know,
he had Hollywood Brown once early for like twenty nine yards.
(36:55):
But and I get it if this is only his
first game back. But I wouldn't get too carried away
with any of those narratives. Yet. Let's see if he
even stays healthy between now and the end of the year.
Let's see how you know, he plays, and let's see
what it's all going to just come down to what
Bidwell wants to do. And the perfect storm for them
(37:18):
would probably be that he plays well enough that you
can move off them, and that they pick high enough
that they can get someone younger, cheaper, and potentially better.
There's there's been a lot of I mean, remember the
press releases and stuff. I mean, you know, forcing him,
you know, to study his playbook more like that stuff
doesn't go away, it doesn't get erased.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
All right, So if you're not believing in Kyler Murray.
We watched the forty nine ers yesterday. Get everybody healthy.
The first Moosa Young game turned out to be pretty
well for you. Are they back? Did they just hit
lightning in a bottle? What is it?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
No?
Speaker 6 (37:52):
I mean, I look, I mean that that you're talking
about adding guys who were, you know, among the best
of of breed at what they do it offensively begins
and ends with Trent Williams. I mean that is their everything.
What they can do in the run game with him,
how effective they start running outside and now the play
(38:12):
action is available everywhere and the quarterback can sling it
in the pocket and out of the pocket. I mean,
Trent Williams is far and away the guy who makes
their DVOA go their overall offensive efficiency everything the run
and the path, the whole kit and kaboodle. And again
if he's if he's healthy, from here on out, they're
(38:33):
going to be in pretty good shape. Even if you know,
a few guys here and there go down offensively and
then defensively. They obviously feasted and the Ohio State, you know,
reunion bookend thing there looks pretty damn good. And their
d line had been there underbelly. They were bad against
the run and they weren't generating the kind of pressure
rates that you're accustomed to from them. So we'll see
(38:55):
if if they fixed it. But that, yeah, that's the group.
If that roster that played that game in Jacksonville is,
you know, among the game day active for their playoff games,
then they're gonna be pretty damn formidable again, especially if
Trent Williams is among them.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, I'd like to go on the other side of that,
but that's gonna take like an hour to break down
what's going on with Jacksonville. So let's stick with Ohio
States Yalli CJ. Stroud now thirty to one for the MVP,
and it looks like they can chase down Jacksonville here
in the South.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Yeah, it's gonna be an interesting week here. I think
that they'll take care of business and wipe up Arizona
at home. I guess it could be a letdown spot
for them, but I'm not sure they've accomplished enough to
have those yet. And I really believe in what Themico
Ryans has them doing. And yes, Stroud's been phenomenal for
him to go on the road and Outdul Joe Burrow
(39:51):
facing a really good, proven playoff defense and having to
sort of comeback and overcome fumbles and that intersect was massive.
And I know what he can do against teams that
blitz him like crazy because they think he's a young,
you know, quarterback and we can rattle him. But the
way that the Bengals mix up their zone coverages and
(40:13):
they're not a big blitz team, and for him to
put up that kind of performance against them on the
road was really huge for me. So yeah, I don't
know about MVP, but he's obviously going to run away
with Rookie of the Year and he is the real deal.
And we'll see, you know, we'll see about the Jags.
I think this will be a get right spot for
(40:34):
the Jags against the Titans Tennessee on the road. I
mean not that they're good, period, but Tennessee on the
road is absolutely the dregs, you know. And Will Levis
has a ways to go, and that's becoming a parent.
I mean, him coming in playing one home game and
then what like this will be his third straight road game.
I think that's gonna be a tough stretch for him.
(40:54):
And I don't know that they'll chase Jacksonville down, but
it's certainly not out of question.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking For. That is at
Jason locking For. Check him out on Odyssey Washington Post
as well. Jay, as always, Buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Have fun, pleasure, gentlemen, enjoy the rest of the game.
Thank you.
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