November 17, 2023 • 36 mins
Jason and Mike dive into Charissa Thompson admitting to completely making up NFL sideline reports. Jason has a big take coming off Thursday Night Football. Plus, the Progressive play of the night!
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we'll get back into Thursday night football coming up in
about twenty minutes. The Joe Burrow injury whateverybody's talking about.
But Jason, when are you gonna tease sober Snoop Dogg? Uh?
You know I do have to say Snoop Dogg did
say today, I went to the big story. He said he
was giving up smoking. Was that Perk Charissa Thompsons. No,
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I actually saw Snoop Dogg on social media saying that
now he verified the account. Well, I verified him it
was him. I mean I saw the picture of Snoop Dogg.
Unless it was Ai Snoop Dogg, I don't know. But
here's the other thing. Is he saying no to edibles,
everything everything? You're sure about that? I'm pretty sure. No.
He said smoking. Yeah, I think he said smoke. Said
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smoke one word, he said smoke. But in the term smoke,
that just means, like, you know, there's there's edibles, there's
other things. There's a called smoke. Jason, you seem to
know a lot about these edibles. I think it's all
called smoke. Jason, wish you eat before the show? What
do you think he's going to the desert for? I
had pizza? Are you sure a potitive? I saw? Like
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I did have chocolate cake as well? Yes, he get
that cake? Burn Man? No, No, no, I've no. You
know the last concert I went to was uh what
it went to see Morris Day. I'm sorry for you
going to Burning Man. That's I want to spend six
hundred dollars to go to a concert. That goes four
days long with bands I've never heard of. That's what
(02:19):
I want to do. It's all about the expense every band.
That's every concert. Now it's an eleven day concert you see.
Not true. You see six hundred and ninety seven bands,
and the price for this is just ten thousand dollars. Now,
I don't want to see every great band that you
talk about we've never heard of.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I went and saw Queen on Saturday night, two and
a half hours show, no openers, Okay, nobody's showing up,
bathroom gone, Okay they are?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah? Is that eleven bands and a bunch of people
you've never heard of in one concert? Said about burning
Man and all these other colleague, he wants a festival.
He's a festival guind of guy. Look at all the
tattoos he's got. Adding more, he's gonna look like a
cheetah before it Cha, Mike was the king there with
the Queen er now like cheat, Well, he's gonna have,
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you know, gonna make him look like a cheap I
should do that. He's gonna get the facial one day.
Tyson Alex Tycher worldwide fame. He's the guy that got
the tent looks like the body, and he walks like
a cheetah, like he walks close to Hey, it'll be
wearing a tardy killed jersey. I want to see how
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fast he runs, right, I.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Mean, it'll be better than The Wonder Woman nineteen eighty
four cheating. I can promise you that what I did
enjoy though, the back to the Snoop Dogg smoke thing,
where how quickly people had taken that and made it
their own, Like I've given up cheese, I've given up
you know, sandwiches.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
That would be me giving up cheese and sandwiches. Don't
you think he's putting himself in danger real quick? Like
to stop at this point? You think his body's used
to That's see, that's the reality show that he needs
to do. Hey, Snoop Dogg withdraw that's the show right there, Paton,
that Snoop dog withdrawal? How much? How mad you get
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doctor Drew go? How mad is he going to be
at matt Canada if he's going through withdraws. He's watching
the Steelers, his favorite team? Do you realize this?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Deshaun Watson gets hurt that the Browns are still favored
over the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You know what the over under for that game is
thirty two. Yeah. You know why they're favor because Kenny
Pickett stinks because Kenny Pickett's dare you like etr? Yeah? Uh?
Taking care of business. We just did that one.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Don't you get it again?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
These are all grand funk real okay. Uh. The big
controversy of the day comes to us courtesy of Carissa Thompson,
who uh Fox hosts and Amazon host hosted pregame halftime
postgame show tonight. During Thursday Night Football, did a podcast
with Barstool Sports talking about her past as an NFL
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sideline reporter, and she let slip something that has got
everybody's jaws dropping. This is her from the Barstool Sports
podcast talking about her halftime job as a sideline reporter,
which sideline reporter is their job is too. At halftime,
you talk to one of the coaches, and the head
coaches of the teams either going to the locker room.
We're coming out of the locker room, and sometimes you
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can't get coaches on camera. So you see the reporter say, hey,
I spoke to Mike Tommon before he went in the
locker room, and he said they got to do this, this, this, this,
this okay great because maybe sometimes you can't get the
guy on camera. He doesn't want to go on camera.
He only wants to talk for like ten seconds. So
we get that. But CHRISA. Thompson says, oh, that wasn't
always what it was like.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And I've said this before, so I haven't been fired
for saying it, but I'll say it again. I would
make up the report sometimes because a the coach wouldn't
come out at halftime or it was too late, and
I was like, I didn't want to screw up the report.
So I was like, I'm just gonna make this up
because first of all, no coach is going to get
mad if I say, hey, we need to stop hurting ourselves.
We needed to be better. I'm third down, we need
to stop turning the ball quarterback. Yeah, exactly, and do
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a better job of getting off the field. Like they're
not going to correct me on that. I'm like, it's fine,
I'll just make up the report.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I can't tell you how mad I am about this.
I can't tell you how mad I am because this
is this is CHRISA. Thompson, who number one is breaking
the number one rule of journalism, which is don't make
stuff up. Right, Well, they teach you first day, don't
make stuff up because you can't. You want people to
trust the media, trust the press. It's very important. We're
going to point now in our in our society where
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there's always is a mistrust of the press anywhere and
now here. She is said, oh, yeah, yeah, I used
to make stuff up. I used to make up halftime
reports when I couldn't talk to the coach. WHOA. That's
like the worst thing you can do, right, So that's bad. Now,
what's worse is that obviously she wanted this story out there,
and she wants attention for it, because she said, I
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talked about this before and not gotten fired, so I
can say it again. In other words, it didn't hit
last time, so now for clicks in the time, I'm
gonna tell this story again. So obviously you know there's
a reason why she wants this out there. Okay, you
want this out there, you want the smoke. Okay. The
worst part how cavalier she was about it. Her tone
the entire time was just, yeah, I made it up,
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And no coach is gonna get mad at me because
they're not gonna man, so it's no big deal. I
can make up what I want to and say it
on the air. Wow. That is a triple crown of awful.
That's what that is. And whatever happens to her, it
happens as far as whatever, whatever sort of if there's discipline,
if there's something, because I can't believe that you want
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number one, that you did it. Secondly, that you go
out and you want to say it and you say
it in such a tone of well, yeah, I did it.
I don't care. And clearly she doesn't care about anybody
else on the sidelines now because she just made their
job worse trying to do reporting. And you've seen a
lot of sideline reporters way in today going, hey, wait
a minute, I work hard. I talked to we don't
make stuff up. Nobody makes stuff up. But she's okay
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with that, She's okay with burning bridges for sideline reporters
who are trying to make their way up now and
past that. That's awful for the media in general. It's
awful for you and for me and for anybody else
that is trying to report things. Factually, what's gonna happen
just the next time in sports. Oh, it's not that
big a deal. What's gonna happen the next time someone
like Jay Glazer or Adam Schefter or Woes or Sham's
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or somebody they have a report and the person the
report's about it's not favorable too, They're gonna say, well,
that's a lie. That person's making it up. And what
are you gonna get. You're gonna get a large portion
of the population, who already want to distrust the media,
are gonna say, yeah, you could be making it up,
because hey, I saw that woman from uh from the
sideline reporter saying she used to make it up, but
she was on the sideline, so yeah, I'm sure this
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could be made up. This is hugely damaging to every
to what she does for a living. And the thing
is she doesn't seem like she cares. Yeah, no, no, no,
I don't know. The coaches aren't gonna care that make
it up or not. No one's gonna care. You can't
make stuff up. I go all the way back to that,
no matter what you say, you can't make stuff up.
And she freely admitted I made stuff up and I'm
not sorry about it, and I'll keep telling this story,
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like I want this out there for some reason, and
it just it just makes me so mad. Like I
was sports mad about the Broncos winning on Monday night,
because come on, man, how do the bills? You know
all the c I was sportsman. This is like real
life mad men. Like I've been stewing about this all
day and I've been walking like it's been like over
my head in my head, going, I can't believe she did.
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This is all what we do for a living. This
is all stuff that we take seriously. And this is
a job that you and I do. Everybody's got different responsibilities,
but no matter what you do, you're not making stuff up.
I can sit here and say the jetched fire Robert Sala,
but I'm not gonna make up to make my point better.
Go hey, Jets and fire Robert Sala. And you know
I talk to people inside one Jets drive and they
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agree with me. You can't make it up. But especially
in her case, where this job inside is to say
what happened, is to report what happened. That's what a
reporter does. You report what happened. And she's decided I'm
I'm okay making it up. This I I can't tell
you how mad I am about this. I know other
people are fined about it too. I hope it becomes
a big deal and it becomes something that she's got
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to respond to and there's some kind of ramifications from it.
So this is shown as something you just can't do.
You just can't make stuff up and just very flippantly
say yeah, I'm okay with because you know, I'm a
star now and I don't do that anymore. So yeah,
what does it matter. I can tell this story on
a podcast, I'll get a lot of clicks, it'll be great,
and my social media feed will blow up. I really
there's got to be some kind of repercussions for this.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
See that's where you get to you get some clicks,
and and what if it's all just a big mad
dog Russo I really wasn't gonna retire.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But what I did for me same thing here. I
made it up.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I made stuff up that that register. Nobody listened to
the podcast, huh, don't listen to yours.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I want to know, like none of the accounting, and look,
I'm not going to find the original. I'm not wasting
my time doing that. But I read a bunch of articles.
Nobody says what what was the question that precipitated this
for ye Hey, have you ever make anything up? Well,
let me tell you. On the sidelines, it makes stuffup,
all let.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Me tell you. But I mean, she's been out of
the sideline business for a long time. She's been anchoring
Sunday morning show on Fox FS one for a long while, right,
and then obviously add the Amazon Prime hosting duties, all
of that, the sideline gig long in the rear view
and from my own personal view, and I appreciate the
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work because there's a lot of the groundwork. Because we
talk about it all the time. It's a relationship business.
Most of the things that you do whatever, whatever you're doing,
however you're getting by in life and wherever you're listening,
thank you, But it's about relationships, right, Positivity and reputation
and all of that paid forward. And certainly when you
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go to the NFL, a lot of tight lip folks
like in terms of your coaches and trust. Obviously, you know,
given the nature of the business how tenuous it is,
how quickly coaches and assistants get cycled through. Those relationships
take time to build, and so for a lot of
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the men and women that have done this job, and
they're all throwing stuff against the wall and screaming because
or we're heading to social media to give you their
take of how they operated in their jobs whatever, because
they feel they've now been hamstrung, or maybe they shouldn't.
Maybe maybe they didn't have to work.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
As hard as they did.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Right, if it was this easy to go down this path.
Now the specifics on and what Chris Atoms has said
she fabricated in this podcast some of it. You go,
all right, it's pretty nebulous stuff. You're watching a football game.
What's the coach speak gonna be?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But if you can make something up, you can make
anything up. No, but that's it. Write anything like you
start getting the old slippery slow. I couldn't. I couldn't
get in the locker room to find out about the injury,
and boy, I really got to find out about that. Hey,
I found out there's still no word on the injury
or an MRI is coming on Monday, because an MRI
is probably always go come on Monday. Yeah, I mean,
but the injury part has always been the part I
I look for, right, I need the update from the
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blue medical tent. What are you hearing? What's so? Those
are what I always look forward to the stuff that
I got from the coach. Nah, generally not so much.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Right, So so that part I understand if that's the
example she's gonna use of what she fabricated towards she
could say, how big a deal is that?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Really?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean, no coach is gonna run me down for that.
But you start getting into injuries, start getting into personnel decisions,
how the week went through, et cetera. Now now you
you know, have to look at it and give it
the second glance, And it made everybody's job that much
harder as they try to navigate games going forward. But
certainly for for her, I don't expect an apology. I
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don't expect any repercussions. Honestly I would.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
She was at sorry at all.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
She used the means to an end, right, whatever the
relationships were. And this goes to the other side from
the production, Right, she's got a crew with her on
the field, and she got a crew in the truck.
And you know this, you were a producer, You got
producers all over the damn place. You were talking with
Fred Rogan on the a five seventy about this before
right of what you go with, how you go with things,
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and all of that trust and the level of communication there.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
How many of those people are like, what the.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Hell she just let out what we knew or she
duped us the whole time, Like now, it's both sides, right,
Duplicit is because we put stuff on air, so like
we're gonna get in trouble because we didn't do our
job to vet it well enough trusting, or we were
complicit that we told.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Her, Hey, we're going down to you.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
They're gonna give you your minute, your thirty seconds, whatever.
You got to have something, so that part is there,
and you know what, you might have black boxes for that,
you might have audio tapes of those transmissions from the
booth on down.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'll tell you where you continue this coming up next,
because again I can't tell you how upset I am.
And there's a lot of people that I respect the
hell out of on social media who are whatnot. There's
a lot of people are in the media on social
saying things on social media that we have to get
to some of the things they said, because this is
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Fit My Upset Special. Now continuing our conversation about Carissa
Thompson gonna play the audio for you again, Fox hosts,
Amazon host It's been top of the sports business for
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a while. Did an interview on Barstool Sports podcast today
in which the topic of doing sideline interviews during NFL
games came up because that's what she did for a
long time, and she said that, Yeah, sometimes when it
came to silent interviews, if I couldn't get the coach
on camera, I just made up what I wanted to.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And I've said this before, so I haven't been fired
for saying it, but I'll say it again. I would
make up the report sometimes because a the coach wouldn't
come out at halftime or it was too late, and
I was like, I didn't want to screw up the report.
So I was like, I'm just going to make this
up because first of all, no coach is going to
get mad if I say, hey, we need to stop
hurting ourselves. We needed to be better on third down,
we need to stop turning the ball quarterback. We yeah, exactly,
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and do a better job of getting off the field.
Like they're not going to correct me on that. I'm like,
it's fine, I'll just make up the report.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Okay. We've talked about how unforgivable that is making stuff up,
being brazen about it, not caring that you made it up,
and thinking it's all okay, and wanting that take to
get out there. I want people to know that I
made up report, really okay. So now you're dealing with
the smoke. Why did she do it right? Why would
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you make up reports? And like, what where did this
come from? And I'm sure what it came from. You know,
you put yourself in her place. If your job as
a sideline reporter, and one of the big things, your
big responsibility is to get the coach coming out of
sideline at halftime, you're gonna worry that if you can't
get the coach. After a while, your producers are gonna say, hey,
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if you can't get the coach, we're gonna put somebody
on TV who can, and you lose your plumb assignments,
and maybe you don't do the A game, maybe you're
down a little bit, whatever it is, or maybe they
don't put you on there at all. So I'm sure
that's where it came from. Was the worry of, hey,
if I keep coming back saying I can't get the coach,
then you know they might they might want to replace me.
So I'll just when I can't get the coach, I'll
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make it up. But then it's a slippery slope too.
Do I even need to get the coach? Or can
I just I've done it before? Can I make up
another one? On eve? Gonna try I do? Yeah? Oh,
there goes Mike Tomlin right now. But now I can
just make something up, right. I don't want to run
over there and do it. It's just like I said,
it's a slippery slope to that. But why she did it,
why she would actually make it up? I would say
that that's gotta be The vast majority of the reason
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is because well, I want to make sure or I
justify this job and what I'm doing, and I don't
want to be in a point where where anybody above
me can say, well, lots of people get the coach.
They find a way to get the coach, and if
you can't, then somebody else will wind up doing well.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But that's the question that I have for the whole
production side of it, because this is me wanting to
peel that onion back another layer to make it stake
even more. Is all the folks that might be complicit
or might have just said you didn't get him, that's
too bad, or the exchange didn't really warrant much information,
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that's too bad. You got to go with something because
they're still coming to you. Right, you're a budding star.
You are a personality and an entity. You know, once
upon a time cutting your teeth with that Mike Harmon guy.
He was really good on Fantasy Island doing those Fantasy
football takes. But you've come a long way and now
you're a big personality on this island. So we're still
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gonna go to you for the forty seconds, for the
thirty seconds you'll go back and forth with your the
guys up in the booth. But also you know from
the truck, you know how many we're just like, all right,
you got to say something because we're still gonna do
the sideline report. This is part of the you know,
the b block of our our minutes of pre pregame
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uh and and pregame analysis or or coming out of halftime.
You know, it's just what people have come to expect
that we're going to get one of these updates.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
So you got to have something, and so i'd love
to know you know how many former aps and field
producers and guys in the booth. Women in the booth like, oh, yeah,
they did that, or they're doing everything they can to
shield themselves because they may have been complicit in having
those kind of circumstances and helping to foster It's funny
(20:44):
to stay up with my Carmen. He's just play right.
It's funny you say that. There is no shortage of
sideline reporters who are weighing in on this. Everybody is
met except for Rachel Benetta. She's the one. Katie is
she said. Chris Thompson is a pro. Wow. Okay, not
at all, uh, but she's moved into stand up comedies.
Lisa Guerrero, Amber Theoharris, Lindsay Rhoades. A couple of women
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I respect immensely in the business. Tracy Wolson, Lisa Salters,
Andrea Kramer, who's been doing it for third done it
for thirty years. Michelle Tafoyde she's in. Dana Jacobson, Yes,
Dana Jacobson, she's one of only three women in the
Hall of Fame. Andrew Kramer. They're all weighing in and saying,
how you can't make things up. But a couple specifically
Lindsay Rhodes Amber Theo Harris, who have done this gig
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NFL network for a long time, and they're both saying
the same things, which is which is kind of what
what you would expect it to be. If you can't
get the coach, you tell the producer can't get him,
or come down with me. I have some thoughts outside
of that, or I've heard a couple of things on
the sideline that I can that I can talk about
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my own reporting. You don't say I'm gonna make something
up and any event, no matter what, and if you're
asked if you couldn't get the U, say know, you
didn't get the coach. Now, I don't know how often
there's a producer on the field with the sideline reporter.
Now I have to think most of the time there is,
because we had Aeron Andrews on about a year ago
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and she told us that great story. But now she
she almost throws up every time she does her first
hit and her and her producer have a high five
every time. So I know Aeron Andrews has a producer
down there, and I'm sure that most of the time
there are producers down there. But sometimes could there be
a point where, hey, we don't have a producer for
this game, so you're down there by yourself, you and
the cameraman. Okay, So does the producer always know if
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there was somebody down there with her? I would assume
so unless the producer can't run to wherever it is
the coaches and it's just an area for the and
he doesn't have the right he or she doesn't have
the right pass, and it's the it's the So the
only people you know for certain that are there the cameramen, right,
because of the cameraman knows I'm trying to get there
or not. So are there people that potentially would know? Yeah,
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but the big broadcast No in this in the truck,
I don't. I think that's a pretty easy thing to
be able to hide from them, because if that was
the case, she wouldn't be saying I used to do
this all the time. Eventually somebody would have said, can't
make stuff up. You can't do it. But but the
truck where you do a game from, and you see
the wide shots from the truck all the time. Look,
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I've done plenty of shows from trucks. When I was
in production, it's you know, you have two rows of
where a bunch of people are working. It's very loud.
It's okay, do we have Carissa for further hit? Yes? Okay,
thirty seconds go and then what's next. We're gonna go
back here, camera for is gonna ride here, We're gonna
have this, have this, the kickoff is coming here. Okay,
she's done. Go like there's no time to hear what's
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going on, or you know, maybe somebody is listening in
the truck. But it's a lot of bedlam. I mean,
it's a lot of fun. It's a huge Yeah, it's
a huge energy rush to do something like that. But
is that something you can hide from the from the truck,
Yeah you can. That's something that you can hide from them.
And and just seeing what what these women sideline reporters
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and reporters in general are saying, Yeah, there's ways around it,
from hey, I can't get the coach. If you don't
want to say you can get them, you can say
all of these different things. And Amberthia or Harris said,
you just say I couldn't get the coach. And Lindsay
Rhoades had a lot of this is what you can do.
I found out this. I found out this. I come
to me here. I don't have anything on the coach,
but I have something else. And that's kind of how
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you do it. That's how you do your job. And
I don't know how this is in any way defensible.
I don't know. I don't know what I don't know
what's next. I don't know what the right thing is
outside of this, because something's got to happen where she's
got to understand what the damage she's doing to the industry.
(24:44):
And again, it's women's sideline reporters. I've seen a lot
today of hey, setting women in sports back. Yeah, but
you know what setting everybody back? You know, young women
trying to get in the game, women who have been
in the game for a while, young men who were
trying to get in the game, older men have been
all of us because this is this is you're a
member of the media and you're saying I made this up.
I made something up during a broadcast. WHOA that makes
(25:06):
all of us because there's no differentiation between Carrissa Thompson
or Jay Glazer or Adam Schefter. If they're saying something
and somebody wants to say, Nope, I didn't say it.
What are you gonna do? Well, we just saw somebody
made something up before, so yeah, okay, and now they're penalized.
And when you look at some of these sideline reporters
now that have to do their job that now we're
(25:28):
gonna go on, let's say on Sunday, and I'm sure
it's gonna happen where they can't get the coach coming
out of the locker room. Now, I'm sure I'm hoping
that for at least this week, networks are gonna say,
if you can't get the coach, we're not putting you on, right,
we can't put you on this too. This is too
sensitive thing. But for every time now one of these
women goes on or any sideline reporter goes on, Hey,
what do you got Well, I talked to Robert Sala
(25:50):
coming up, we couldn't get the camera on. Okay, what
did he say? Okay, go on the air. And that
person goes on the air and says, okay, I just
talked to Robert Sala a couple seconds ago. He said
Wilson is great and he's looking forward to the second half.
Even though four interceptions in the FIRSTEP. Whatever it is,
people are gonna see that and they're gonna make a
joke and laugh and go, who knows if that guy's
telling the truth, and now he's guilty of being or
(26:11):
not guilty, but he's got the image of someone that
may or may not be telling the truth. Well, I
think part of it is you now will lean more
on whatever information, nuance, and breakdown you got from the
coaches in the meetings that you have during the week
right part of the production meetings, whatever your access is,
so on, it'll go to specificity. On Tuesday, when I
(26:35):
sat in on x I, you know, they mentioned getting
this player involved or whatever, or you often have it
in the broadcast booth, right, you'll have the oh, yeah,
we saw that when we watched practice on Friday, you know,
we saw that they were working on that little trick
play kind of thing where all of a sudden something
happens like yeah, on Tuesday, he told me, you know,
to look out for something like this or or this
(26:56):
was gonna be a point of emphasis. So it now
comes into more special sophicity versus the generalizations of those exchanges.
But for all of these professionals, right, and it's it's
very wide reaching, the range of responses, uh, the specificity
of how they go about their jobs. You're you're learning
(27:16):
how you know each approaches and what they've learned through.
I mean, it's it's a nice little teaching experience experience
as well as much as it is an anger and
vitriolic ranting against what CHRISA. Thomps had said. But what
she did was really put a stain on that job, which,
let's face it, there's a lot of folks that question
(27:37):
the necessity of it at times, right, and we and
you can do that almost any place you work, right,
there's a function that you look around and go, eh,
maybe maybe not. Maybe it's me. I don't know, but
what do you mean, Harmon's become irrelevant. We need to
replace it right away.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
But you get my point, right, Harmon you start wondering
about redundancies and all of those kind of things. But
many people have dismissed that role anyway because of those
kind of reports.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I didn't tell anything. They don't be coach speak right,
and and and what she's doing here is saying I'm
judging what's newsworthy and what's not. Now normally do you
get great stuff out of the coaches at halftime. No,
they normally tell you whatever they want to tell you.
Sometimes you get a Matt Eberflus where he says, let's
important question. Yeah, does Ai Harmon have calves? They don't
(28:27):
render so well in AI.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
No, they don't look good. Yeah, it's really skinny. I
think the three D effect has not yet been perfected,
so we can't sign off on that. Well, if he
sounds enough like Harmon, that's fine, but then it's not
really Harmon though. You just have ty Shirt work on
the calves on his downtime. Listen you dope. But if
(28:49):
it's hard to say, Okay, this is okay to lie about,
but other stuff is not, it's like, wait a minute, No,
you've already opened the door. It's a gateway. You could
lie about a lot of other things. Why should I
believe you would? I just lied about this, Oh really,
I just you didn't lie on anything else. Once you're
proven that you've lied about stuff, well then what's gonna
stop you from lying about other things? I'm building that trust.
(29:12):
I only made this up. Oh really, really, you only
made this up. Didn't make anything else up? Nobody else
did anything else for everybody. It's like you just pull
it back to your own life.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Uh little little you know, the white lies that become
a bigger ball of white lies, and now you have
to unspin those. And this is where Chrissa Thompson has
gotten herself like again.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I hope it's a mad dog. Ah. I got you
listen to my podcast. I really want to see what
tomorrow brings with this story. I really want to see it.
Jason Smith Show is my best friend Mike Carman Coming
up next. We got the play of the night, plus
big time thoughts on Joe Burrow and just how good
the Ravens are answer might surprise us. Next right here
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Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (30:12):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. We're live from the tire rag dot com Studios.
Got to play the night Come in your way in
a couple of minutes. But some big final thoughts on
Thursday Night football Bengals and the Ravens. Bengals First, they're
gonna have to get by until their next game, maybe
a little bit beyond without Joe Burrow. He left the
(30:34):
game tonight with a wrist injury. It is a sprained risks.
Are you sure that he was telling the truth? Ah? Yes,
I actually saw Zach Taylor. Are you sure I saw that? Sure?
Was Zach Taylor? Saw Zach Taylor say it? Did he
have one of those nineteen eighties brick cell phones. I
spoke to Zach Taylor and he told me it's just
not been that kind of year for the Bengals, But
(30:56):
you want to be a sunny side up thing for Cincinnati.
It does doesn't seem like it's too serious for Joe Burrow.
And the last thing anybody, any team in the AFC
wants is to see the Bengals make a big run.
Because when Burrow's been healthy, when he started getting it back,
the Bengals were phenomenal. Like this is a team that
(31:16):
is completely Joe Burrow driven. And when he was healthy,
when he finally got over the calf injury, look how
good things were. He comes back again, the Bengals are
gonna be the team that every NFL team in the
AFC is gonna hope. I hope they'll make it in
the playoffs because I really don't want to play Joe Burrow.
I really don't want to play that team. Certain teams,
you know, you know you have to play Kansas City,
you know you have to play whoever it is, Miami
(31:38):
would but we really don't want to play since that's
gonna be the team nobody wants to play. Interesting schedule
for the Bengals down the stretch, obviously keeping an eye
on how much you're gonna miss Burrow and how much
Browning's gonna have to take over. But their next game
is a home game against the Steelers. Then they're on
the road at Jacksonville. Indianapolis comes to town early December.
(32:01):
Your Vikings and Josh Dobbs another date, this time in
Pittsburgh on the twenty third of December. Then you finished
with the Chiefs and whatever the hell the Browns are
at that point. Now you look at the Ravens and
I know the Mark Andrews injury is going to be
a big deal, and it's a huge deal because he's
Lamar Jackson's guy. But if you ask me right now
(32:25):
in the AFC, what team I have the most confidence
in in winning any game anywhere, whether it's a game
they have at home or they got to go on
the road, they got to play in clement weather. Who's
the best team, all around, all purpose, all weather anybody.
It's the Ravens. I like that.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
You'd put it into like WWE a w A parlance,
the loser leaves town match, the anything goes, no disqualification.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I was thinking it was more like tires. Like tires.
It's good, yeah, but that's the team like because I
know they'll be able to go anywhere in any kind
of game. I have more confidence in them even than
the Chiefs. Their defense is terrific. They're starting to find
other playmakers. Lamar Jackson is playing at a different level
than he has been. He's staying in the pocket more.
(33:11):
He's letting plays develop a little bit longer and buying
time and throwing the football instead of tucking it under
and going and that's a huge thing. It makes me think, Okay,
missing Mark Andrews, maybe they can figure it out because
they have a good running game.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
You found Keaton Mitchell is a weapon. You know. Gus
Busses is scoring a couple of touchdowns a game now,
so yeah, the team I have the most confidence in
that can go win anywhere is the Ravens. And if
you ask me AFC Title game right now, I would
say Ravens Chiefs, right, two great defenses, But I don't
like the Chiefs offense right now as much as I
like the Ravens. Well, and that's it. The Chiefs will
get a look see at them Monday night against the Eagles.
(33:47):
Both teams coming off bys, presumably about as healthy as
we've seen them in quite some time, rested, refreshed and
ready to go. So maybe some wrinkles to that offense
and maybe more Rashi Rice or maybe do you find
another member of the receiving game that can step up there.
But for the Ravens, you got to Gus Edwards, and
I think that's the key, is that you can lean
(34:09):
back into the run game because you have Mitchell, you
have Justice Hill a little lesser obviously, and Gus Edwards
as as far as he's gonna go. And Lamar Jackson,
who hasn't had as many design runs. You saw him
take off and scrambles a little bit to win tonight's game.
But he's a guy that maybe you start shifting back
(34:29):
to some of the old play calling. But it's all
about the curiosity and the creativity of getting Zay Flowers involved. Ready,
he's set a new rookie record for the team over
Tory Smith for receptions by a rookie. But yeah, they're
ready to get They're all road tires. I like that.
That's good. I like the all road tires.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Everybody else has worts. I mean we chronicled it a
little bit earlier in the show. I mean, you got
a crowded field where you're saying, there's a lot of
teams that are contenders.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
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we'll get back into Thursday night football coming up in
about twenty minutes. The Joe Burrow injury whateverybody's talking about.
But Jason, when are you gonna tease sober Snoop Dogg? Uh?
You know I do have to say Snoop Dogg did
say today, I went to the big story. He said he
was giving up smoking. Was that Perk Charissa Thompsons. No,
(01:14):
I actually saw Snoop Dogg on social media saying that
now he verified the account. Well, I verified him it
was him. I mean I saw the picture of Snoop Dogg.
Unless it was Ai Snoop Dogg, I don't know. But
here's the other thing. Is he saying no to edibles,
everything everything? You're sure about that? I'm pretty sure. No.
He said smoking. Yeah, I think he said smoke. Said
(01:35):
smoke one word, he said smoke. But in the term smoke,
that just means, like, you know, there's there's edibles, there's
other things. There's a called smoke. Jason, you seem to
know a lot about these edibles. I think it's all
called smoke. Jason, wish you eat before the show? What
do you think he's going to the desert for? I
had pizza? Are you sure a potitive? I saw? Like
(01:57):
I did have chocolate cake as well? Yes, he get
that cake? Burn Man? No, No, no, I've no. You
know the last concert I went to was uh what
it went to see Morris Day. I'm sorry for you
going to Burning Man. That's I want to spend six
hundred dollars to go to a concert. That goes four
days long with bands I've never heard of. That's what
(02:19):
I want to do. It's all about the expense every band.
That's every concert. Now it's an eleven day concert you see.
Not true. You see six hundred and ninety seven bands,
and the price for this is just ten thousand dollars. Now,
I don't want to see every great band that you
talk about we've never heard of.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I went and saw Queen on Saturday night, two and
a half hours show, no openers, Okay, nobody's showing up,
bathroom gone, Okay they are?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah? Is that eleven bands and a bunch of people
you've never heard of in one concert? Said about burning
Man and all these other colleague, he wants a festival.
He's a festival guind of guy. Look at all the
tattoos he's got. Adding more, he's gonna look like a
cheetah before it Cha, Mike was the king there with
the Queen er now like cheat, Well, he's gonna have,
(03:04):
you know, gonna make him look like a cheap I
should do that. He's gonna get the facial one day.
Tyson Alex Tycher worldwide fame. He's the guy that got
the tent looks like the body, and he walks like
a cheetah, like he walks close to Hey, it'll be
wearing a tardy killed jersey. I want to see how
(03:24):
fast he runs, right, I.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Mean, it'll be better than The Wonder Woman nineteen eighty
four cheating. I can promise you that what I did
enjoy though, the back to the Snoop Dogg smoke thing,
where how quickly people had taken that and made it
their own, Like I've given up cheese, I've given up
you know, sandwiches.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
That would be me giving up cheese and sandwiches. Don't
you think he's putting himself in danger real quick? Like
to stop at this point? You think his body's used
to That's see, that's the reality show that he needs
to do. Hey, Snoop Dogg withdraw that's the show right there, Paton,
that Snoop dog withdrawal? How much? How mad you get
(04:07):
doctor Drew go? How mad is he going to be
at matt Canada if he's going through withdraws. He's watching
the Steelers, his favorite team? Do you realize this?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Deshaun Watson gets hurt that the Browns are still favored
over the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You know what the over under for that game is
thirty two. Yeah. You know why they're favor because Kenny
Pickett stinks because Kenny Pickett's dare you like etr? Yeah? Uh?
Taking care of business. We just did that one.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Don't you get it again?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
These are all grand funk real okay. Uh. The big
controversy of the day comes to us courtesy of Carissa Thompson,
who uh Fox hosts and Amazon host hosted pregame halftime
postgame show tonight. During Thursday Night Football, did a podcast
with Barstool Sports talking about her past as an NFL
(05:00):
sideline reporter, and she let slip something that has got
everybody's jaws dropping. This is her from the Barstool Sports
podcast talking about her halftime job as a sideline reporter,
which sideline reporter is their job is too. At halftime,
you talk to one of the coaches, and the head
coaches of the teams either going to the locker room.
We're coming out of the locker room, and sometimes you
(05:22):
can't get coaches on camera. So you see the reporter say, hey,
I spoke to Mike Tommon before he went in the
locker room, and he said they got to do this, this, this, this,
this okay great because maybe sometimes you can't get the
guy on camera. He doesn't want to go on camera.
He only wants to talk for like ten seconds. So
we get that. But CHRISA. Thompson says, oh, that wasn't
always what it was like.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And I've said this before, so I haven't been fired
for saying it, but I'll say it again. I would
make up the report sometimes because a the coach wouldn't
come out at halftime or it was too late, and
I was like, I didn't want to screw up the report.
So I was like, I'm just gonna make this up
because first of all, no coach is going to get
mad if I say, hey, we need to stop hurting ourselves.
We needed to be better. I'm third down, we need
to stop turning the ball quarterback. Yeah, exactly, and do
(06:04):
a better job of getting off the field. Like they're
not going to correct me on that. I'm like, it's fine,
I'll just make up the report.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I can't tell you how mad I am about this.
I can't tell you how mad I am because this
is this is CHRISA. Thompson, who number one is breaking
the number one rule of journalism, which is don't make
stuff up. Right, Well, they teach you first day, don't
make stuff up because you can't. You want people to
trust the media, trust the press. It's very important. We're
going to point now in our in our society where
(06:33):
there's always is a mistrust of the press anywhere and
now here. She is said, oh, yeah, yeah, I used
to make stuff up. I used to make up halftime
reports when I couldn't talk to the coach. WHOA. That's
like the worst thing you can do, right, So that's bad. Now,
what's worse is that obviously she wanted this story out there,
and she wants attention for it, because she said, I
(06:54):
talked about this before and not gotten fired, so I
can say it again. In other words, it didn't hit
last time, so now for clicks in the time, I'm
gonna tell this story again. So obviously you know there's
a reason why she wants this out there. Okay, you
want this out there, you want the smoke. Okay. The
worst part how cavalier she was about it. Her tone
the entire time was just, yeah, I made it up,
(07:15):
And no coach is gonna get mad at me because
they're not gonna man, so it's no big deal. I
can make up what I want to and say it
on the air. Wow. That is a triple crown of awful.
That's what that is. And whatever happens to her, it
happens as far as whatever, whatever sort of if there's discipline,
if there's something, because I can't believe that you want
(07:36):
number one, that you did it. Secondly, that you go
out and you want to say it and you say
it in such a tone of well, yeah, I did it.
I don't care. And clearly she doesn't care about anybody
else on the sidelines now because she just made their
job worse trying to do reporting. And you've seen a
lot of sideline reporters way in today going, hey, wait
a minute, I work hard. I talked to we don't
make stuff up. Nobody makes stuff up. But she's okay
(07:58):
with that, She's okay with burning bridges for sideline reporters
who are trying to make their way up now and
past that. That's awful for the media in general. It's
awful for you and for me and for anybody else
that is trying to report things. Factually, what's gonna happen
just the next time in sports. Oh, it's not that
big a deal. What's gonna happen the next time someone
like Jay Glazer or Adam Schefter or Woes or Sham's
(08:21):
or somebody they have a report and the person the
report's about it's not favorable too, They're gonna say, well,
that's a lie. That person's making it up. And what
are you gonna get. You're gonna get a large portion
of the population, who already want to distrust the media,
are gonna say, yeah, you could be making it up,
because hey, I saw that woman from uh from the
sideline reporter saying she used to make it up, but
she was on the sideline, so yeah, I'm sure this
(08:42):
could be made up. This is hugely damaging to every
to what she does for a living. And the thing
is she doesn't seem like she cares. Yeah, no, no, no,
I don't know. The coaches aren't gonna care that make
it up or not. No one's gonna care. You can't
make stuff up. I go all the way back to that,
no matter what you say, you can't make stuff up.
And she freely admitted I made stuff up and I'm
not sorry about it, and I'll keep telling this story,
(09:04):
like I want this out there for some reason, and
it just it just makes me so mad. Like I
was sports mad about the Broncos winning on Monday night,
because come on, man, how do the bills? You know
all the c I was sportsman. This is like real
life mad men. Like I've been stewing about this all
day and I've been walking like it's been like over
my head in my head, going, I can't believe she did.
(09:24):
This is all what we do for a living. This
is all stuff that we take seriously. And this is
a job that you and I do. Everybody's got different responsibilities,
but no matter what you do, you're not making stuff up.
I can sit here and say the jetched fire Robert Sala,
but I'm not gonna make up to make my point better.
Go hey, Jets and fire Robert Sala. And you know
I talk to people inside one Jets drive and they
(09:47):
agree with me. You can't make it up. But especially
in her case, where this job inside is to say
what happened, is to report what happened. That's what a
reporter does. You report what happened. And she's decided I'm
I'm okay making it up. This I I can't tell
you how mad I am about this. I know other
people are fined about it too. I hope it becomes
a big deal and it becomes something that she's got
(10:09):
to respond to and there's some kind of ramifications from it.
So this is shown as something you just can't do.
You just can't make stuff up and just very flippantly
say yeah, I'm okay with because you know, I'm a
star now and I don't do that anymore. So yeah,
what does it matter. I can tell this story on
a podcast, I'll get a lot of clicks, it'll be great,
and my social media feed will blow up. I really
there's got to be some kind of repercussions for this.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
See that's where you get to you get some clicks,
and and what if it's all just a big mad
dog Russo I really wasn't gonna retire.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But what I did for me same thing here. I
made it up.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I made stuff up that that register. Nobody listened to
the podcast, huh, don't listen to yours.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I want to know, like none of the accounting, and look,
I'm not going to find the original. I'm not wasting
my time doing that. But I read a bunch of articles.
Nobody says what what was the question that precipitated this
for ye Hey, have you ever make anything up? Well,
let me tell you. On the sidelines, it makes stuffup,
all let.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Me tell you. But I mean, she's been out of
the sideline business for a long time. She's been anchoring
Sunday morning show on Fox FS one for a long while, right,
and then obviously add the Amazon Prime hosting duties, all
of that, the sideline gig long in the rear view
and from my own personal view, and I appreciate the
(11:27):
work because there's a lot of the groundwork. Because we
talk about it all the time. It's a relationship business.
Most of the things that you do whatever, whatever you're doing,
however you're getting by in life and wherever you're listening,
thank you, But it's about relationships, right, Positivity and reputation
and all of that paid forward. And certainly when you
(11:47):
go to the NFL, a lot of tight lip folks
like in terms of your coaches and trust. Obviously, you know,
given the nature of the business how tenuous it is,
how quickly coaches and assistants get cycled through. Those relationships
take time to build, and so for a lot of
(12:09):
the men and women that have done this job, and
they're all throwing stuff against the wall and screaming because
or we're heading to social media to give you their
take of how they operated in their jobs whatever, because
they feel they've now been hamstrung, or maybe they shouldn't.
Maybe maybe they didn't have to work.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
As hard as they did.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Right, if it was this easy to go down this path.
Now the specifics on and what Chris Atoms has said
she fabricated in this podcast some of it. You go,
all right, it's pretty nebulous stuff. You're watching a football game.
What's the coach speak gonna be?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But if you can make something up, you can make
anything up. No, but that's it. Write anything like you
start getting the old slippery slow. I couldn't. I couldn't
get in the locker room to find out about the injury,
and boy, I really got to find out about that. Hey,
I found out there's still no word on the injury
or an MRI is coming on Monday, because an MRI
is probably always go come on Monday. Yeah, I mean,
but the injury part has always been the part I
I look for, right, I need the update from the
(13:06):
blue medical tent. What are you hearing? What's so? Those
are what I always look forward to the stuff that
I got from the coach. Nah, generally not so much.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Right, So so that part I understand if that's the
example she's gonna use of what she fabricated towards she
could say, how big a deal is that?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Really?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean, no coach is gonna run me down for that.
But you start getting into injuries, start getting into personnel decisions,
how the week went through, et cetera. Now now you
you know, have to look at it and give it
the second glance, And it made everybody's job that much
harder as they try to navigate games going forward. But
certainly for for her, I don't expect an apology. I
(13:47):
don't expect any repercussions. Honestly I would.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
She was at sorry at all.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
She used the means to an end, right, whatever the
relationships were. And this goes to the other side from
the production, Right, she's got a crew with her on
the field, and she got a crew in the truck.
And you know this, you were a producer, You got
producers all over the damn place. You were talking with
Fred Rogan on the a five seventy about this before
right of what you go with, how you go with things,
(14:15):
and all of that trust and the level of communication there.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
How many of those people are like, what the.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Hell she just let out what we knew or she
duped us the whole time, Like now, it's both sides, right,
Duplicit is because we put stuff on air, so like
we're gonna get in trouble because we didn't do our
job to vet it well enough trusting, or we were
complicit that we told.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Her, Hey, we're going down to you.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
They're gonna give you your minute, your thirty seconds, whatever.
You got to have something, so that part is there,
and you know what, you might have black boxes for that,
you might have audio tapes of those transmissions from the
booth on down.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'll tell you where you continue this coming up next,
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And there's a lot of people that I respect the
hell out of on social media who are whatnot. There's
a lot of people are in the media on social
saying things on social media that we have to get
to some of the things they said, because this is
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Fit My Upset Special. Now continuing our conversation about Carissa
Thompson gonna play the audio for you again, Fox hosts,
Amazon host It's been top of the sports business for
(16:42):
a while. Did an interview on Barstool Sports podcast today
in which the topic of doing sideline interviews during NFL
games came up because that's what she did for a
long time, and she said that, Yeah, sometimes when it
came to silent interviews, if I couldn't get the coach
on camera, I just made up what I wanted to.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And I've said this before, so I haven't been fired
for saying it, but I'll say it again. I would
make up the report sometimes because a the coach wouldn't
come out at halftime or it was too late, and
I was like, I didn't want to screw up the report.
So I was like, I'm just going to make this
up because first of all, no coach is going to
get mad if I say, hey, we need to stop
hurting ourselves. We needed to be better on third down,
we need to stop turning the ball quarterback. We yeah, exactly,
(17:26):
and do a better job of getting off the field.
Like they're not going to correct me on that. I'm like,
it's fine, I'll just make up the report.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Okay. We've talked about how unforgivable that is making stuff up,
being brazen about it, not caring that you made it up,
and thinking it's all okay, and wanting that take to
get out there. I want people to know that I
made up report, really okay. So now you're dealing with
the smoke. Why did she do it right? Why would
(17:53):
you make up reports? And like, what where did this
come from? And I'm sure what it came from. You know,
you put yourself in her place. If your job as
a sideline reporter, and one of the big things, your
big responsibility is to get the coach coming out of
sideline at halftime, you're gonna worry that if you can't
get the coach. After a while, your producers are gonna say, hey,
(18:15):
if you can't get the coach, we're gonna put somebody
on TV who can, and you lose your plumb assignments,
and maybe you don't do the A game, maybe you're
down a little bit, whatever it is, or maybe they
don't put you on there at all. So I'm sure
that's where it came from. Was the worry of, hey,
if I keep coming back saying I can't get the coach,
then you know they might they might want to replace me.
So I'll just when I can't get the coach, I'll
(18:36):
make it up. But then it's a slippery slope too.
Do I even need to get the coach? Or can
I just I've done it before? Can I make up
another one? On eve? Gonna try I do? Yeah? Oh,
there goes Mike Tomlin right now. But now I can
just make something up, right. I don't want to run
over there and do it. It's just like I said,
it's a slippery slope to that. But why she did it,
why she would actually make it up? I would say
that that's gotta be The vast majority of the reason
(18:58):
is because well, I want to make sure or I
justify this job and what I'm doing, and I don't
want to be in a point where where anybody above
me can say, well, lots of people get the coach.
They find a way to get the coach, and if
you can't, then somebody else will wind up doing well.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But that's the question that I have for the whole
production side of it, because this is me wanting to
peel that onion back another layer to make it stake
even more. Is all the folks that might be complicit
or might have just said you didn't get him, that's
too bad, or the exchange didn't really warrant much information,
(19:32):
that's too bad. You got to go with something because
they're still coming to you. Right, you're a budding star.
You are a personality and an entity. You know, once
upon a time cutting your teeth with that Mike Harmon guy.
He was really good on Fantasy Island doing those Fantasy
football takes. But you've come a long way and now
you're a big personality on this island. So we're still
(19:54):
gonna go to you for the forty seconds, for the
thirty seconds you'll go back and forth with your the
guys up in the booth. But also you know from
the truck, you know how many we're just like, all right,
you got to say something because we're still gonna do
the sideline report. This is part of the you know,
the b block of our our minutes of pre pregame
(20:15):
uh and and pregame analysis or or coming out of halftime.
You know, it's just what people have come to expect
that we're going to get one of these updates.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
So you got to have something, and so i'd love
to know you know how many former aps and field
producers and guys in the booth. Women in the booth like, oh, yeah,
they did that, or they're doing everything they can to
shield themselves because they may have been complicit in having
those kind of circumstances and helping to foster It's funny
(20:44):
to stay up with my Carmen. He's just play right.
It's funny you say that. There is no shortage of
sideline reporters who are weighing in on this. Everybody is
met except for Rachel Benetta. She's the one. Katie is
she said. Chris Thompson is a pro. Wow. Okay, not
at all, uh, but she's moved into stand up comedies.
Lisa Guerrero, Amber Theoharris, Lindsay Rhoades. A couple of women
(21:07):
I respect immensely in the business. Tracy Wolson, Lisa Salters,
Andrea Kramer, who's been doing it for third done it
for thirty years. Michelle Tafoyde she's in. Dana Jacobson, Yes,
Dana Jacobson, she's one of only three women in the
Hall of Fame. Andrew Kramer. They're all weighing in and saying,
how you can't make things up. But a couple specifically
Lindsay Rhodes Amber Theo Harris, who have done this gig
(21:30):
NFL network for a long time, and they're both saying
the same things, which is which is kind of what
what you would expect it to be. If you can't
get the coach, you tell the producer can't get him,
or come down with me. I have some thoughts outside
of that, or I've heard a couple of things on
the sideline that I can that I can talk about
(21:52):
my own reporting. You don't say I'm gonna make something
up and any event, no matter what, and if you're
asked if you couldn't get the U, say know, you
didn't get the coach. Now, I don't know how often
there's a producer on the field with the sideline reporter.
Now I have to think most of the time there is,
because we had Aeron Andrews on about a year ago
(22:13):
and she told us that great story. But now she
she almost throws up every time she does her first
hit and her and her producer have a high five
every time. So I know Aeron Andrews has a producer
down there, and I'm sure that most of the time
there are producers down there. But sometimes could there be
a point where, hey, we don't have a producer for
this game, so you're down there by yourself, you and
the cameraman. Okay, So does the producer always know if
(22:36):
there was somebody down there with her? I would assume
so unless the producer can't run to wherever it is
the coaches and it's just an area for the and
he doesn't have the right he or she doesn't have
the right pass, and it's the it's the So the
only people you know for certain that are there the cameramen, right,
because of the cameraman knows I'm trying to get there
or not. So are there people that potentially would know? Yeah,
(22:59):
but the big broadcast No in this in the truck,
I don't. I think that's a pretty easy thing to
be able to hide from them, because if that was
the case, she wouldn't be saying I used to do
this all the time. Eventually somebody would have said, can't
make stuff up. You can't do it. But but the
truck where you do a game from, and you see
the wide shots from the truck all the time. Look,
(23:20):
I've done plenty of shows from trucks. When I was
in production, it's you know, you have two rows of
where a bunch of people are working. It's very loud.
It's okay, do we have Carissa for further hit? Yes? Okay,
thirty seconds go and then what's next. We're gonna go
back here, camera for is gonna ride here, We're gonna
have this, have this, the kickoff is coming here. Okay,
she's done. Go like there's no time to hear what's
(23:40):
going on, or you know, maybe somebody is listening in
the truck. But it's a lot of bedlam. I mean,
it's a lot of fun. It's a huge Yeah, it's
a huge energy rush to do something like that. But
is that something you can hide from the from the truck,
Yeah you can. That's something that you can hide from them.
And and just seeing what what these women sideline reporters
(24:01):
and reporters in general are saying, Yeah, there's ways around it,
from hey, I can't get the coach. If you don't
want to say you can get them, you can say
all of these different things. And Amberthia or Harris said,
you just say I couldn't get the coach. And Lindsay
Rhoades had a lot of this is what you can do.
I found out this. I found out this. I come
to me here. I don't have anything on the coach,
but I have something else. And that's kind of how
(24:23):
you do it. That's how you do your job. And
I don't know how this is in any way defensible.
I don't know. I don't know what I don't know
what's next. I don't know what the right thing is
outside of this, because something's got to happen where she's
got to understand what the damage she's doing to the industry.
(24:44):
And again, it's women's sideline reporters. I've seen a lot
today of hey, setting women in sports back. Yeah, but
you know what setting everybody back? You know, young women
trying to get in the game, women who have been
in the game for a while, young men who were
trying to get in the game, older men have been
all of us because this is this is you're a
member of the media and you're saying I made this up.
I made something up during a broadcast. WHOA that makes
(25:06):
all of us because there's no differentiation between Carrissa Thompson
or Jay Glazer or Adam Schefter. If they're saying something
and somebody wants to say, Nope, I didn't say it.
What are you gonna do? Well, we just saw somebody
made something up before, so yeah, okay, and now they're penalized.
And when you look at some of these sideline reporters
now that have to do their job that now we're
(25:28):
gonna go on, let's say on Sunday, and I'm sure
it's gonna happen where they can't get the coach coming
out of the locker room. Now, I'm sure I'm hoping
that for at least this week, networks are gonna say,
if you can't get the coach, we're not putting you on, right,
we can't put you on this too. This is too
sensitive thing. But for every time now one of these
women goes on or any sideline reporter goes on, Hey,
what do you got Well, I talked to Robert Sala
(25:50):
coming up, we couldn't get the camera on. Okay, what
did he say? Okay, go on the air. And that
person goes on the air and says, okay, I just
talked to Robert Sala a couple seconds ago. He said
Wilson is great and he's looking forward to the second half.
Even though four interceptions in the FIRSTEP. Whatever it is,
people are gonna see that and they're gonna make a
joke and laugh and go, who knows if that guy's
telling the truth, and now he's guilty of being or
(26:11):
not guilty, but he's got the image of someone that
may or may not be telling the truth. Well, I
think part of it is you now will lean more
on whatever information, nuance, and breakdown you got from the
coaches in the meetings that you have during the week
right part of the production meetings, whatever your access is,
so on, it'll go to specificity. On Tuesday, when I
(26:35):
sat in on x I, you know, they mentioned getting
this player involved or whatever, or you often have it
in the broadcast booth, right, you'll have the oh, yeah,
we saw that when we watched practice on Friday, you know,
we saw that they were working on that little trick
play kind of thing where all of a sudden something
happens like yeah, on Tuesday, he told me, you know,
to look out for something like this or or this
(26:56):
was gonna be a point of emphasis. So it now
comes into more special sophicity versus the generalizations of those exchanges.
But for all of these professionals, right, and it's it's
very wide reaching, the range of responses, uh, the specificity
of how they go about their jobs. You're you're learning
(27:16):
how you know each approaches and what they've learned through.
I mean, it's it's a nice little teaching experience experience
as well as much as it is an anger and
vitriolic ranting against what CHRISA. Thomps had said. But what
she did was really put a stain on that job, which,
let's face it, there's a lot of folks that question
(27:37):
the necessity of it at times, right, and we and
you can do that almost any place you work, right,
there's a function that you look around and go, eh,
maybe maybe not. Maybe it's me. I don't know, but
what do you mean, Harmon's become irrelevant. We need to
replace it right away.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
But you get my point, right, Harmon you start wondering
about redundancies and all of those kind of things. But
many people have dismissed that role anyway because of those
kind of reports.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I didn't tell anything. They don't be coach speak right,
and and and what she's doing here is saying I'm
judging what's newsworthy and what's not. Now normally do you
get great stuff out of the coaches at halftime. No,
they normally tell you whatever they want to tell you.
Sometimes you get a Matt Eberflus where he says, let's
important question. Yeah, does Ai Harmon have calves? They don't
(28:27):
render so well in AI.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
No, they don't look good. Yeah, it's really skinny. I
think the three D effect has not yet been perfected,
so we can't sign off on that. Well, if he
sounds enough like Harmon, that's fine, but then it's not
really Harmon though. You just have ty Shirt work on
the calves on his downtime. Listen you dope. But if
(28:49):
it's hard to say, Okay, this is okay to lie about,
but other stuff is not, it's like, wait a minute, No,
you've already opened the door. It's a gateway. You could
lie about a lot of other things. Why should I
believe you would? I just lied about this, Oh really,
I just you didn't lie on anything else. Once you're
proven that you've lied about stuff, well then what's gonna
stop you from lying about other things? I'm building that trust.
(29:12):
I only made this up. Oh really, really, you only
made this up. Didn't make anything else up? Nobody else
did anything else for everybody. It's like you just pull
it back to your own life.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Uh little little you know, the white lies that become
a bigger ball of white lies, and now you have
to unspin those. And this is where Chrissa Thompson has
gotten herself like again.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I hope it's a mad dog. Ah. I got you
listen to my podcast. I really want to see what
tomorrow brings with this story. I really want to see it.
Jason Smith Show is my best friend Mike Carman Coming
up next. We got the play of the night, plus
big time thoughts on Joe Burrow and just how good
the Ravens are answer might surprise us. Next right here
(29:54):
tyreck dot Com Studios, Jason and Mike.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. We're live from the tire rag dot com Studios.
Got to play the night Come in your way in
a couple of minutes. But some big final thoughts on
Thursday Night football Bengals and the Ravens. Bengals First, they're
gonna have to get by until their next game, maybe
a little bit beyond without Joe Burrow. He left the
(30:34):
game tonight with a wrist injury. It is a sprained risks.
Are you sure that he was telling the truth? Ah? Yes,
I actually saw Zach Taylor. Are you sure I saw that? Sure?
Was Zach Taylor? Saw Zach Taylor say it? Did he
have one of those nineteen eighties brick cell phones. I
spoke to Zach Taylor and he told me it's just
not been that kind of year for the Bengals, But
(30:56):
you want to be a sunny side up thing for Cincinnati.
It does doesn't seem like it's too serious for Joe Burrow.
And the last thing anybody, any team in the AFC
wants is to see the Bengals make a big run.
Because when Burrow's been healthy, when he started getting it back,
the Bengals were phenomenal. Like this is a team that
(31:16):
is completely Joe Burrow driven. And when he was healthy,
when he finally got over the calf injury, look how
good things were. He comes back again, the Bengals are
gonna be the team that every NFL team in the
AFC is gonna hope. I hope they'll make it in
the playoffs because I really don't want to play Joe Burrow.
I really don't want to play that team. Certain teams,
you know, you know you have to play Kansas City,
you know you have to play whoever it is, Miami
(31:38):
would but we really don't want to play since that's
gonna be the team nobody wants to play. Interesting schedule
for the Bengals down the stretch, obviously keeping an eye
on how much you're gonna miss Burrow and how much
Browning's gonna have to take over. But their next game
is a home game against the Steelers. Then they're on
the road at Jacksonville. Indianapolis comes to town early December.
(32:01):
Your Vikings and Josh Dobbs another date, this time in
Pittsburgh on the twenty third of December. Then you finished
with the Chiefs and whatever the hell the Browns are
at that point. Now you look at the Ravens and
I know the Mark Andrews injury is going to be
a big deal, and it's a huge deal because he's
Lamar Jackson's guy. But if you ask me right now
(32:25):
in the AFC, what team I have the most confidence
in in winning any game anywhere, whether it's a game
they have at home or they got to go on
the road, they got to play in clement weather. Who's
the best team, all around, all purpose, all weather anybody.
It's the Ravens. I like that.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
You'd put it into like WWE a w A parlance,
the loser leaves town match, the anything goes, no disqualification.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I was thinking it was more like tires. Like tires.
It's good, yeah, but that's the team like because I
know they'll be able to go anywhere in any kind
of game. I have more confidence in them even than
the Chiefs. Their defense is terrific. They're starting to find
other playmakers. Lamar Jackson is playing at a different level
than he has been. He's staying in the pocket more.
(33:11):
He's letting plays develop a little bit longer and buying
time and throwing the football instead of tucking it under
and going and that's a huge thing. It makes me think, Okay,
missing Mark Andrews, maybe they can figure it out because
they have a good running game.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
You found Keaton Mitchell is a weapon. You know. Gus
Busses is scoring a couple of touchdowns a game now,
so yeah, the team I have the most confidence in
that can go win anywhere is the Ravens. And if
you ask me AFC Title game right now, I would
say Ravens Chiefs, right, two great defenses, But I don't
like the Chiefs offense right now as much as I
like the Ravens. Well, and that's it. The Chiefs will
get a look see at them Monday night against the Eagles.
(33:47):
Both teams coming off bys, presumably about as healthy as
we've seen them in quite some time, rested, refreshed and
ready to go. So maybe some wrinkles to that offense
and maybe more Rashi Rice or maybe do you find
another member of the receiving game that can step up there.
But for the Ravens, you got to Gus Edwards, and
I think that's the key, is that you can lean
(34:09):
back into the run game because you have Mitchell, you
have Justice Hill a little lesser obviously, and Gus Edwards
as as far as he's gonna go. And Lamar Jackson,
who hasn't had as many design runs. You saw him
take off and scrambles a little bit to win tonight's game.
But he's a guy that maybe you start shifting back
(34:29):
to some of the old play calling. But it's all
about the curiosity and the creativity of getting Zay Flowers involved. Ready,
he's set a new rookie record for the team over
Tory Smith for receptions by a rookie. But yeah, they're
ready to get They're all road tires. I like that.
That's good. I like the all road tires.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Everybody else has worts. I mean we chronicled it a
little bit earlier in the show. I mean, you got
a crowded field where you're saying, there's a lot of
teams that are contenders.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
But these guys are just cut above exit out by
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Speaker 2 (35:29):
Tom more than an Indianapolis. Sch just gets hit. The
ball is loosen, and it's a.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Lot to you. How Michael's much more excited to that
call than he was tonight. Hold on, Let's hear Carris
at Thompson's report. Interview with Rex Ryan after that play, guests, Uh,
let's have the play of the night, Jay Flowers, why
to the right?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Got edwards in the backfield? Lamarta throw fire down the middle.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It deflected, it caught. I'm a deflected else and Agalore
twenty fifteen, ten fives. He flipped it for six. Agalore
on a afflection. Raven to the end zone. But append
the flag is down, doesn't matter. The touchdown counted. Ravens
rolled Raven's radio network on the call, the overhit man,
(36:19):
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