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November 18, 2023 44 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon have all the latest on Joe Burrow’s season ending injury. And a booster named “Uncle T” allegedly funded part of Connor Stalion's scouting operation.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, then, welcome inside The Jason Smith Show with my bas.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Friend Mike Harmon Hobo.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Tonight, the Knicks Wrap Up Show will take us into
details about the NIXT winning now five of their last
six games.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
If it ain't happening here, it's.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Been a big let I mean, I'm ready for the
NBA Eastern Conference Finals right now, Nick Bucks, let's go,
let's go, let's go.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Now. You need RJ. Barrett for a series though, That's okay,
That's what I mean.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
You can have a he can take him and miss
a night because of a migraine against a lowly wizard squad,
But you get into a series against anybody that you
know plays basketball and you're in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh no, no, I'm okay waiting for him to get healthy.
I can wait. I can wait a little bit, all right,
I mean I can I mean, we had other games going.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I look, Lebron is gonna play. He's not gonna play,
He's not gonna play. He's gonna play to that we have.
And it's an in season tournament game for the Lakers.
So while I'm waiting for the Knicks in the Eastern
Conference finals, hey, we have in season tournament games. I mean,
I expect to see a much different Lakers squad because
it's an in season tournament game.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Oh, there's no question about it.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I mean, you're gonna stay, gonna blow the doors off
of the Blazer tonight because it's in season tournament just one.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
And the Clippers have already been eliminated from their group.
So are they even gonna show up? I mean, that's
the drama we have on a big Friday night. As
I'm watching the Wemby special here uh his Sacramento has
got a five point lead inside of a minute. But
you know, it's it's the fun in theater of the NBA.
All the debates of how valuable is tournament does anybody care? Meanwhile,

(02:01):
over here, millions upon millions of dollars spent and lost
in Las Vegas over the F one event, so absolute
chaos at every turn.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
Mike get Clippers actually get to take on the US
men's soccer team Sunday.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Oh, who scores first? A first minute? Something?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Something's gotta work there. Either the US is gonna score
or James Harden's gonna win a game.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Something's gotta give.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Oh, irresistible force, immovable object. Here we come.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
We're Halter has them ready.

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Speaker 3 (02:50):
Again.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
We are seconds away from the Lakers Blazers tip off.
I don't know there's a bigger game this year. I mean,
I really don't. The Lakers are putting their number one
ranked in season tournament record on the line tonight. Mike Rmi,
You don't you don't see this that often. This is
like when you get that once in a while. Oh hey,
the belt is on the line on a Saturday morning
wrestling show. Wait a minute, Hogan's gonna put the belt

(03:11):
on the line Saturday morning against Iron Mike Sharp.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
That's kind of what we have, right.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
That's well put because Roman Reigns has only defended his
title eleven times this year, and there was a graphic
against the Hulkster with all of the house shows and
everything else that he was into the hundreds during his reign.
So yeah, it's uh, it's one of those kind of
situations here as we look at the Lakers, I mean,
this time, it counts.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
How many times has Uncle T put his championship belt
on the line.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Listen, we'll have to eat check that got cash.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
We'll get to Uncle T and Chris Partridge in a
few minutes. Okay, I've been I've I've been practicing my
Partridge Family lines all day. I was right, so just
I've had the I mean, come on, man, I mean
that would have one.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I was the first one with Chris Partridge.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
As soon as I saw it, I said, wow, the
drummer from the Partridge Family got fired.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Okay, well it's been a long time. I guess all right,
I see.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
That drummers though today.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well he was, but he was, but he was the drummer,
that's what he did. Tracy was the tambourinist, and Susan
Day played the accordions. Danny played the bass, and Keith
played the guitar and sang and.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Man, yeah all right, but I was just I was just.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I was just talking and Chris Partridge got fired.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
He played the drums, then he got fired. It's what happens.
It goes.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
You got harmon, You got harmony now like bringing up
people who died Frostburg. What what's Harmon's like? Rubbing off
on you now with bringing stuff like that up?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, I just had to pause. I didn't know if
we were gonna keep going or not. Let's go move
on for the Chris Partridge, I mean, come on, move.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
But the big football news of the day Joe Burrow
done for the season. Remember he left the game last
night again against.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
The Ravens very early.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
On his last pass of this season, a touchdown pass,
couldn't grip the football. You watched him on the game
last night and the sidelines try to throw. He just
couldn't do it. He sat out the rest of the way,
and it is now reported and MRI showed a torn
ligament in his right wrist. The team says it's an
acute injury that likely occurred in the second quarter, not
before the game or the day before when he had

(05:23):
a rap on his wrist and he was pictures of him.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
We're all over the internet on that. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
He got hurt in the second quarter of this game,
Burrow saying on Friday, quote, it's tough. You work so
hard for seasons and moments like these. Whenever you get
hurt and it ends early, it's tough to handle. That's
a part of the game. Burrow said he landed on
the wrist after he got hit by Jadavian Clowney on
a nine yard play in.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Baltimore's red zone.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
The next play was when he went down after throwing
the touchdown pass to Mix and so apparently Burrow is saying,
this is what happened. I went down on the play
before and I felt a pop in the middle of
the throw and I couldn't do it anymore. But Joe
Joe Burrow is out for the season and there's a
micro and macro point to this. But the micro point
is now NFL is already saying there looking into this because,

(06:09):
as we said, there is video that Joe Burrow a
rap or some kind of brace or a splint on
his right hand that was on the internet, video of
him getting off the team bus when they got to
the game the day before, and then that video was
scrubbed from the Internet and no one could find it.
And now after the game last night, you had Zach
Taylor say, no, I'm not aware of anything. Really, it's

(06:30):
Joe Burw. You're not aware that he had a splint
on it. Really, you're not aware. He's only the quarterback.
You're not aware. Really, you're not aware, basically saying I
don't know anything about that. Everything was fine, Everything was fine,
the NFL saying, well, we're gonna investigate this, and now
this is going to become a thing because of that,
and because of the way that this video disappeared off
the internet, because it was out there, and because of

(06:51):
there was no even acknowledgment of the injury. Yeah, this
is going to be a thing now for the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
I mean, you had Burrow say, hey, Russian sleeve as
you will do, and obviously swollen handy coming off of
the short week, everything else, trying to do whatever you
can to get healthy, and it's.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
All finding good.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
As Jay Glazer laid it out right, he practiced. So
how much do you really need to disclose? And how
hurt was he versus the final tally when the pop
was heard right somewhere in between, And obviously in week eleven,
nobody's one hundred percent unless you're just getting called up
from the practice squad. And even then you've probably been

(07:33):
bounced around a little bit trying to get yourself ready
for action if the call up would come. So, you know,
we look at this investigation. I don't know, I don't
know how much really comes of it, no matter how
many people call for class action lawsuits or.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
It's a lot.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I bet the Bengals I gotta make some money on.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
This here, or they imitate, you know, all of the
the different you know, personal injury lawyer commercials that are
out there. Whatever the case may be, it's it's now
the well I was. I did it as a precautionary thing,
and it's something we talked about yesterday to that point,
and how much that passes the smell test. Well, you

(08:15):
know the fact that they deleted the video doesn't help them. Well,
if you just left you put it in explanation up,
then it's doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, because if there's if it's not a big deal,
Burrow said after the game, Hey, it's not uncommon for
guys to wear a compression sleeve on a plane because
when you get up to an altitude, things swell up.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
You have bumps and bruises. So it's like, if it.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Was not that big a deal, they would have talked
about it. No, everything is just fine. But the fact
the video is gone and the Bengals played that, oh,
we don't know anything that's gone. Like they just look
like they're guilty, Like they're acting like when you catch
somebody in a lie, and how that Well, I don't.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Know what's going I don't know. I don't know you're
talking about.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Okay, you know, you know, like they're acting like they're guilty.
Like it doesn't pass the smell test. So yeah, that
to me, that that's the big smoking gun in this thing,
is that, Hey, you had that video and then suddenly
it's gone and you wouldn't even there was nothing about it,
and you tried to pretend like you didn't know what
was going on.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
But after the.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Game, oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, hey, we'll talk
about it now. No, everything was yeah, you know, no,
he was fine. It was look, he'll tell you why.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
It was a rap that was on there, and you know,
like he had a bit of a bruise, but he
was okay, no, no, after the game, now we can
explain everything to you. Everything is fine, don't worry.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, okay, I mean they're not behaving like they're one
hundred percent on the up and up at all. So yeah,
they're gonna get in on this. And this happened before
you said team was fine nearly one hundred grand and
in uh twenty nineteen for the same thing. And now
this has the evidence out there, so we've not heard
the last of the story.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
All he had to say was general soreness. Yeah, and
I got beat up a little bit on Sunday. Yes,
so I'm into practice, but I'm a little uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's not an injury. It's general. You're sure, right, General
complete with the salute that would.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Be my name if I was in If I was
in the military, I'd be general soreness. That's why I
want to be general soreness here right here? Okay, very good, Now.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I just don't I don't.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
I don't know how it is for the NFL unless
they're they're gonna commission a report. We want all video
taken by anybody associated with the Bengals or the Michigan
football program UH to be turned over so we can
watch every down of practice.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's all in Joe Burrow really did guys?

Speaker 7 (10:18):
I got to break in here.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Oh, what what's going on? Frostburg?

Speaker 7 (10:21):
The Lakers are about to tip?

Speaker 4 (10:24):
And what happens once they tip back that way?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Are you sure? Are they tipping? Or did Carissa Thompson
tell you they're tipping off?

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (10:31):
I know, Oh they're tipping on. No b here, they're
tipping right now.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Heels it in his bones.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Now.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
The other part of this, and this is this is
the really big takeaway for the for the Joe Burrow situation,
is that all day I've heard certain things about what
happened with Joe Burrow. Obviously, the Bengals season is screwed,
and what are they gonna do? You're talking one of
the top quarterbacks in the league that when he's healthy,
it's incredible. But you have to look at Joe Burrow
as a guy. Now, this is two of his four

(10:57):
years that have been cut short because of injury. Now
this isn't hey, it's a hamstring, it says, hey, you know, look,
but he's had a calf. He now has a ligament
in his wrist, he had the torn acl, he had
a wrist injury in college. Going all the way back
to when he was at Ohio State, you know, he's
had injuries, he's been dinged up. So you have to
go forward that, Okay, maybe he's not the most durable

(11:17):
guy and you have to make sure you have a backup.
But this gets into the bigger point is that this
year now, and you've seen today everybody talk about all
the quarterbacks who are now out for the season that
we have seen, right Burrow, Anthony Richardson, Kirk Cousins, Deshaun Watson,
Daniel Jones, Aaron Rodgers, who is going to miss most

(11:37):
of the season before he comes back with a super calf.
But you've seen all these big quarterbacks now that teams
have put everything into and you get knocked out for
the season that screws everything, and teams have become so
quarterback driven over the last few years over running backs.
Why because quarterbacks get hurt less often. Well, now you
have a case of Hey, you're seeing all these big
quarterbacks get hurt and teams are screwed because of it.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Right. Look, the Bengals are screwed. They don't have a
backup that can take them through anything. They can't.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Uh, look look at some of the other teams that
that have lost their guys this year. Right, you have
you have the situation with the Browns where they're working
out Joe Flacco, right, the Jets, I can't even get
into Zach Wilson. Right, you're trying to get by with
Gardner Minshew in Indianapolis. Daniel Jones is out, so now touchdown,
Tommy Davito gonna play the whole season.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
What you're gonna see.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Now as a result of this is not a push
to have Thursday Night Football canceled or more bye weeks
or anything else like that. I get that, Hey, let's
let's do something you can only do so much.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Right. It's tackle football, right, you can only do so much. Right.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
The ground is still gonna be hard. You're still gonna
have to play on Thursday nights, Right, it's gonna happen.
What you are gonna see as a result now is
teams are gonna go to the point where they say,
we're not gonna have this torpedo our season. We're gonna
go overboard to pay for a backup quarterback and lock
them in for two.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Or three years.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
And you're gonna see guys now sign contracts former starters,
Big Rich ten million dollar a year plus contracts to
be backups. Right, Guys like Baker Mayfield, Mac Jones, right,
probably Jordan Love after this year, Jimmy Garoppolo, Kenny Pickett
if he continues to stink this year and he loses
his job and the Steelers signed somebody else. All these

(13:21):
guys who have started that have starting experience and can
come in and guy to ship for a few weeks
without really being franchise guys. These guys are gonna be
so amenable saying, wait, I can get a thirty million dollar,
three year guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Contract to back up.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
I'll get my chance to play, and I'll be in
a good situation with a good team. Okay, yeah, okay,
I'm fine with that and instead of guys trying to
jump around going I'll sign with a bad team hoping
that I win the starting job at some point, you know,
with someone else I have to worry about a rookie
coming in. You are gonna see teams say we have
to spend more money on the backup quarterback position, and
we have to entice guys who were starters to come

(13:57):
in and be okay with being backups long term and
backups where eventually you know you're gonna get a chance
to play. That's gonna be the big takeaway from this.
And watch this, watch the skyrocketing salaries, and watch these
former number one quarterbacks sign to be backups with good
teams in the offseason.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
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Speaker 3 (14:19):
Third quarter underway in Portland. The Lakers now lead by
four over the Blazers. It was a ten point lead
two minutes in, and that lead is almost gone to
make it a three point lead for the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
But it is the in season tournament. I expect the
Lakers to pick it up any moment now. Because when
you say in season tournament, the Lakers flip the switch at.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
My signal on leash. Hell, look at the stripe down
that courts. That's the only motivational speech you need. Followed
the stripe.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Now, before we get into the NFL, let's do this.
Let's have some equal time here. We talked a lot
about the CORRISA Thompson situation a few minutes ago. She
went on a podcast a day ago and said she
used to make up reports when she couldn't talk to
a coach on the sideline of NFL games, and then
put out a statement today saying that, uh, oh yeah, yeah, no,

(15:09):
I never.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Made stuff up before. And that's it.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Oh, I'm gonna walk away from this firestorm and all
the difficulties I've created for everybody in the business.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I'm done. I'm a star. I don't even to worry
about this.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Some of my best friends are in that business.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Let's play a game right now. Let's play a game
right now.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
We have.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
A couple of.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Carrissa Thompson's sideline reports when she was a sideline reporter
at Fox.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
We're gonna listen and let's decide if that was real
or if it was made up.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
That is a Magic Johnson.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
So playing as myself, Mike Carbon, Steve de Sager, Frostburg,
Alex Tyshirt.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Are you guys ready to go?

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (15:46):
So I'm not playing because I know the answers.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Oh you know the answer?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, so I know it's made up when you thought
you knew the answers. All right, So Frostburg's out, so
it's you me, Ty Shirt and Steve. All right, go
ahe let's hear the first one.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Intended for Greg Jennings. Let's go down to Carissa Thompson.

Speaker 8 (16:03):
Well, guy's catching up with both coaches at halftime. For
coach del Rio, as you might imagine, it's all about
getting pressure on Aaron Rodgers. He said he liked the
game plan that they had headed in. They've just done
a poor job of executing it offensively. They have to
be more aggressive. For coach McCarthy, on the other hand,
you guys, he was so adamant about a communication breakdown.
We saw that right before the half with Finley. He said,
a headset actually broke. It's all about communication on the Packer's.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Side, all right.

Speaker 7 (16:28):
So that was Packers and Jags back in the day. Okay, Oh,
real or may not.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I'm gonna say that was real because it's very.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
Specific, very detailed. I'm saying, you.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Talked to both coaches. I don't know, and I don't
know sideline reporters talking.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
To both coaches just because she said, yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Fifty to fifty. But the half real, half imagined.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
I really only talked to one. I couldn't get to
the other side of the field.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
So I'm going to train it up.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I say, you know what, I need to hear the
first part again, Alex, play the first part of it again,
just afraid not not the Mcarthury Park, just the first part.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yes, Jennings, let's go down to Chrissa Thompson.

Speaker 8 (17:07):
Well, guy's catching up with both coaches at halftime. For
coach del Rio, as you might imagine, it's all about
getting pressure on Aaron Rodgers. He said he liked the
game plan that they had headed in. They've just done
a poor job of executing it. Offensive hmm.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Oh, that's a tough thing, say MacArthur Park. Before that, Yes,
someone left the cake out.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
In the rain, and uh I thought, oh boy, uh,
you gotta explain to Tyshert MacArthur Park now because we
got to hear MacArthur park I told you, I'm gonna
say that's a real one. The details from McCarthy are
pretty they're they're pretty significant where there could be a
discrepancy on it after the game about the headset communication thing,

(17:46):
and it sounds real like she really did talk to
del Rio, who said was adamant about the game plan.
I'm gonna say that's a real one. Yes, yeah, Steve,
you agree absolutely.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Oh, I'm out. I'm hat I'm fifty to fifty. I
say part of it's true.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
She didn't get to both of them, which ones should
nap and which one's true?

Speaker 5 (18:10):
I think the communication one's true, all right, So McCarthy
is true, the other one who is coach speak? Okay,
ty shirt? What do you think I'm gonna pass? What's
on a Jay Cole? Jake Cole?

Speaker 7 (18:19):
Do you think she's given truth or not?

Speaker 9 (18:24):
This is like, Patrick is such a kiss's not even
working tonight.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Let me.

Speaker 9 (18:34):
Jason think, God, Patrick, you're such a suck up. It's unbelievable.
It's Larry Miller and pretty woman. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
And announcing Jason Cole NFL Insider, a voter for the
Hall of very good.

Speaker 9 (18:52):
Where's my intro music?

Speaker 3 (18:55):
You don't get it. You joined in the middle of
the game, so you don't get into intro music.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
I get the match game seventy six? Where is Gee
Rayburn when we need him?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (19:04):
That was that game. That's match game, isn't it? All right?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, that's what they when they write down their their answers.
That's what you're hearing.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yes, right.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
Where is Charles Milton Riley? Where is Patrick sort of
playing the role of Charles Milton Riley?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Oh yeah, Brett Summers, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (19:21):
Yeah, does he even know who Charles Milton Riley is?
So that's no, there's no possible way that Patrick knows
that reference none.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Pretty good run, though, dude, Patrick, Patrick's not working tonight.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Frostburg is here, Pat Frobsberg is here.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
All right, So let's do this one before now because
we have j Cole on the line.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
What do you think, ja, Paul? Was that a real
report or a made up report?

Speaker 9 (19:47):
Oh? What exactly? Report again? Say it to me again?
More and more.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
Play for you right now, Jacob, I'll play for you
right now.

Speaker 8 (19:55):
Let's changing up with both coaches at halftime. For coach
del Rio, as you might imagine, it's all about getting
pressure on Aaron Rodgers. He said he liked the game
plan that they had headed in. They just done a
poor job of executing it offensively. They have to be
more aggressive. For coach McCarthy. On the other hand, you guys,
he was so adamant about a communication breakdown.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
We saw that right before the half with Finley.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
He said, Actually, Rukee, it's all about communication on.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
The packer's side.

Speaker 9 (20:18):
Okay, the del Rio part is absolutely one hundred percent
true because del Rio will talk to any blonde he
can find. Wow, wow, I know my coaches and McCarthy
is I'm going to say it's yes because he's actually
kind of a nice guy. Once. He wouldn't be rude

(20:41):
to a woman and not talk to her. So like,
if this is belichickie, there's a no ways, absolutely no
way it's true. But I'll go with I'll go with
true on this one. You know, despite the fact that
she has stepped in it sufficiently.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Jake Cole knows his NFL sideline report. Guys, that is
a true report.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
I said, true report. I said the same thing. I
said it was true. But lately though, and I gave
better reasons than Cole did. I actually went.

Speaker 9 (21:09):
In no better reason.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
I gave a better reason.

Speaker 9 (21:14):
I know these actual people, Okay, I know their tendencies. Okay,
that's way better inside information than anything that you provided
out of your you know, Jet's mind.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Hey, hey, I just want to let you know before
we start this interview. You step out of line with
a j we had, I got, I got, I got something,
I got something in my holster to play for you.
You're not gonna like so you step out of line again,
and you're gonna hear it.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
Wow, I'm so scared.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
I think now we should play it for him. Then
I think I did. If you're not, Are you not scared?
We could play it for you? You want to hear it.

Speaker 9 (21:49):
Scared?

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
You want to hear it.

Speaker 9 (21:52):
On this show?

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
You sure?

Speaker 9 (21:54):
Is there ever going to be frightened us?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, let's hear from earlier this week, this is forty
nine or head coach Kyle Shanahan, Oh, his weekly press conference.

Speaker 9 (22:04):
Let's hear how as areminary quarterback coaches?

Speaker 4 (22:08):
I mean, dam she's a trans quarterbacks.

Speaker 7 (22:11):
I understand.

Speaker 10 (22:12):
I don't think you understand the coaches in this building.

Speaker 7 (22:15):
We don't send a night. You don't talking mechanics all week.
You preparing for a game plan. That's what you're doing
the season.

Speaker 10 (22:20):
You're getting ready for the offense that we're running, the.

Speaker 9 (22:22):
Defense that are going on when you work to improve
your full work and arm strength. Just say okay, he said,
I don't understand, and you know what, I didn't understand.
That's why I asked the question, okay, because I wanted
to understand how he handles it.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
You know, Jesus goal.

Speaker 9 (22:42):
This is what inquisitive people actually do. They ask questions
that they don't necessarily know the answer to. That's how
this works.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Well, let me just see Jason.

Speaker 9 (22:53):
So gigantic flop on what I should be scared of?

Speaker 3 (22:56):
No, not that again, a flop kind of kind of
really on brand few where you don't really listen when
you're on this show and you didn't listen during the press.

Speaker 9 (23:03):
Why on this show? I'm the show. When I come on,
you guys, you give us you me okay, okay, So yeah,
so do they know that along with me?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Wait? So do the forty nine ers do they not
talk about mechanics during the week. I don't know what
what's the real answer.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
Well, apparently they don't, and according to Kyle, and this
is much more. This is a really deep, esoteric subject
I'm talking to players about which most fans really don't
care about. And that is when you've got a guy
who's got like five coaches that he's had over the years,
like Brock Party has his own personal throwing coach in Jacksonville.

(23:49):
He has another guy who trained him when he was
in high school. You in junior high and high school
and most of the time when I was in college.
He also has college coach. He has a high school coach.
He also has Brian seeing Kyle Shanahan. So not specific
to brock Purty, but generally among NFL players. The question
I'm asking is what happens when you have all these

(24:13):
voices in your head and telling you what to do?
How do you react and give his situation and how
do you shut out the ones that you know you
think are wrong, but keep your keep from second guessing yourself.
So it's a long, kind of involved idea that I'm
trying to get into, and Kyle didn't really bite on it,

(24:35):
but he gave me an answer, which is that evidently
they don't concentrate on mechanics during the season, they're concentrating
on game plan, which kind of makes sense because it's
hard to teach mechanics while you're in the middle of
the season.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
There you go, all right, I have a two part
question for you. Number one, do you care that Joe
Burrow had a brace when he got off a bus
before getting injured in last night's game? Second part to
that question is he and can Joel Flacco still be elite?

Speaker 9 (25:07):
Still?

Speaker 6 (25:10):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (25:11):
There's a lot of presumption in that question, at least
the second part of it. The first part is, yeah,
I do care because if he was injured and should
have been mentioned on the injury report, Yeah, like that's
important information, especially in a league that is embracing gambling
as much as it does, because what you don't want

(25:33):
is the old world of Billy Walters, where Billy was
paying for special access and special information and the game
seemed tilted. And that was okay when the NFL kept
everything at arms distance and didn't have a relationship with
gambling houses. But now that it does, it has an
obligation to keep everything as close to on the up

(25:56):
and up as it can. I still, you know, at
the end of the I still look at anybody who
gambles and complains about this and says, you know, don't
complain about the lack of information or specificity of information.
That's on you. You're gambling. Okay, that's the nature of this.
But if there was an injury that needed to be reported, yes,

(26:18):
he should have been listed on the jury report. I
would agree with that.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
All right.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Now the second part, now, leave Joe black a lot
of it. How screwed are they with Browning?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Their quarterback?

Speaker 9 (26:32):
With Browning? Nagel?

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Oh no, no, j Well, did Mike tom Win make a
deal with the devil.

Speaker 9 (26:40):
Jake Browning? Yeah, they're screwed. I mean, let's let's say facts.
I mean, Joe Burrow is so special and has such
a such an incredibly special relationship with Jamar Chase. Now,
the thing that is helping us is but the Jets

(27:01):
with Aaron Rodgers not what they expected to be, floating
around five hundred. The Bills with all the injuries they
have and with Josh Allen giving the ball away more
than a slot machine in Vegas, you know, they're floating
around five hundred, right, And then you've got Cleveland's all

(27:22):
banged up. Pittsburgh is not really very good. The Chargers,
you know, Brandon Staley is just perfecting the art of
losing close games. I mean, just a phenomenal at that. Uh,
you know, who do you really trust? I mean, there's
the Dolphins are really good. Baltimore's you know, should be
really good, you know, defensively, and they're not asking Lamar

(27:45):
to be too much. And then of course you've got
Kansas City and so I think it's a big run
for the last four spots. So Cincinnat can take their
way into it. But are you talking about a real contender. No,
like you're just talking about a team that Sneaks is
waiting to the players and his spader for one of
those top three teams.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Probably he's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That
is at Jason Cole sixty two. Mechanic's Answers. Jason Cole
will provide that for you.

Speaker 9 (28:18):
Jordan loves how easy. Richard Dawson was a hero of mine.
I just wanted to say that he was.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
On Match Game All a lot as well.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
He was the host.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Richard wasn't the Geen Rayburn was the host of Match.

Speaker 9 (28:32):
Richard Richard Dawson also was a host.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
He know, he was a panelist. He was even host.

Speaker 9 (28:37):
He was he did some of that stuffure Geene Rayburn
pure genius, absolute pure genius.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Extra long microphone too, he had, Yeah, here you go.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Richard Richard, well known for playing Corporal Peter Nukirk and
Hogan's Heroes, also as a regular panelist on Match Game
and is the host.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Of Family Few.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
Yeah, who was up too? And Killian Richard or Dawson
a step behind g Rayburn as a host. It's still
pretty brilliant.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
I take it easy, buddy, we'll talk.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Jason call.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
I don't think Richard Dawson hosted Match Game. I don't
think he did.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (29:26):
To break everything down. Then the owner, editor, proprietor of
College Footballnews dot Com, every prediction, every bit of analysis
you could possibly want. It is longtime friend of the show,
Pete feu Tech Pete. What's happening?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Buddy?

Speaker 10 (29:40):
I would totally be chirping about telling everyone weeks ago
that Colorado wasn't going to go to a Bowl Game.
If I didn't pick them to win tonight, I kind
of thought that this is where Washington State's been playing
like garbage. But man, here's the problem with this Colorado thing.

Speaker 9 (29:58):
Here's the problem with the hype.

Speaker 10 (30:00):
This is a rebuilding job. You can't just fix it
that fast. And what USC for example, is finding out is, yeah,
you get a lot of guys from the transfer portal.
It takes time to get the players together for the lines.
It takes time to get everything in place for a defense.
You need to build those things up. And Colorado should

(30:23):
actually look, this is gonna be a three win improvement
from last year. That's a good first year. Ready for
first year head coach, that's what you improved by three wins.
That's a good year. And yet it's going to be
seen as some sort of a failure because oh wow,
the wheels came up. Well yeah, because they took a
bunch of they completely overhauled everything and didn't have anything

(30:43):
in place. So it takes You can't just do this overnight,
all right, Pete.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
So when we're looking at a big slate of games tomorrow,
we'll get to Michigan coming up in a second, You
I believe you have Northern Alabama shocking the world, don't you.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
I want to. I'm trying to look and see what
we have there. I'm trying to see we have that
you North Alabama forty two, Florida State seven. I think
in your preview that's.

Speaker 10 (31:04):
A little light, maybe a little bit. Yeah, it wouldn't
be though. I mean seriously, just just how cool would
it be if we got something crazy like that and
we haven't had anything created forgetting just that we haven't
had crazy. I mean, we are This is the first.
I mean last week I think I mentioned this. It's
even weirder now, this is the first time in the
history of college football that we've had five ten and

(31:26):
oh power five level teams. We've had one year, I
think it was seventy three or a couple or ten
oh one. That's not the same, but really, five ten
and oh power five teams, something's gonna happen. We are
way overdue for North Alabama to be Florida State. We
are way overdue for just a quirky something where it's like, gosh,

(31:47):
this team just hit a wall or just wasn't their day. Usually,
if you look at the last ten years, when the
University of Oregon goes to the State of Arizona, bad
things happened, they got they blew out last year. But
it really is kind of crazy. I know it shouldn't
matter to this year's team because then these kids even
cared about what happened yesterday, which was you know, five

(32:09):
years ago.

Speaker 9 (32:10):
But it really is crazy.

Speaker 10 (32:12):
How for example, Oregon has problems in late November against
Arizona State at Arizona State.

Speaker 9 (32:18):
Over the last twenty ish years or so, I.

Speaker 10 (32:20):
Mean, there's just there's little anomalies like that, and we
are going to get this. It's going to happen soon.
The double digit home dogs have continued to roll. Last week,
air Force lose its all. Why we're good This week
something crazy is going to happen somewhere and we can
all hope it's your Northern Alabama team that it's just done.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Well. What about the Beavers at home?

Speaker 5 (32:42):
A narrow favorite Washington the year of living dangerously and
again looking to upset that apple cart and knock another
of those undefeateds away.

Speaker 9 (32:52):
I'm not quite there.

Speaker 10 (32:53):
I've been trying to make Washington lose every week and
it hasn't work. So this is the one week where
I'm going to actually kind of go contrary into my
own thought on that, and this is the week.

Speaker 9 (33:04):
They probably get dropkicked.

Speaker 10 (33:05):
But look, the Oregon State's got a good pass rush,
it's got the lines, it doesn't have a whole lot
of great wins. And if you look at what what
have they done. I mean they beat UCLA, Okay, that
was pretty good. I mean it's they've kind of gotten
by somehow and reputation and I'm not exactly sure why.
I'm not exactly sure where in grape Vine, Texas the

(33:28):
committee saw that, Yeah, you know what with the metrics
and this and carry the two and I don't know,
I think I saw him play on the you know
some Tec twelve network one time. Like, I don't know
how they're giving getting so much love. But we will
certainly find out this weekend next against Oregon and Washington
if they're really that good.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
All right, Pete.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Now, looking at Michigan, we saw everything finally get solved.
It looks like everything's going to be fine for them
the rest of this season. Whatever NCAA deal they have
to worry about's going to be after the year. But
I mean every day I feel like there's still something
going on. You know, Harbaugh takes the deal for the
three game suspension, and we find out the reasons today
is because Uncle T was a guy who was bankroll

(34:11):
a booster known as Uncle T was bankrolling the Connor
Stallion's video thing. And they fired their linebackers coach today
because apparently allegedly he was the one that tried to
destroy evidence. I mean, like, I look at what the
NCAA and with the Big Ten is trying to do.
It's okay, we have the evidence, we don't have the evidence.
We have the evidence, we don't have the evidence.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
I screw it.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
We're just gonna let Michigan play. This is an absolute
tire fire. The way this has been handled from the beginning.

Speaker 10 (34:41):
What oh God, are you done?

Speaker 9 (34:44):
I guess?

Speaker 10 (34:45):
I mean, does America care? I mean really? I mean
it is a weird story because Michigan fans are crazy
about it because they're Michigan fans. Ohio State fans are
crazy about it just because and it's a thing among
us sports writer types and sports media types that this
should be a big thing. I've gotten a sense that

(35:06):
absolutely nobody else cares or knows what the heck you
were just talking about, like, Okay, so is Michigan playing
tomorrow or not? Yes? You know, are they going to
beat Maryland?

Speaker 9 (35:19):
Yeah? Probably?

Speaker 10 (35:20):
Are they gonna play Are they gonna play Ohio State?

Speaker 9 (35:23):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (35:24):
Or if they win that, are they gonna go to
the Big Ten Championship and have to deal with Iowa? Okay,
and Harball is gonna coach in that? And they're gonna
go to the College Football playoffs? It feel like, okay, fine,
so in the off season it might happen to be
this season. Crazily enough, remember Kansas basketball. I think the
NCAA just figured out they're twenty sixteen team punishment or

(35:46):
whatever it was, and you know they kind of said,
I mean, okay, pencils ever, racers will just move on
when they could have seriously kept them out of any
sort of postseason stuff. This thing might take years or
so for the NCAA to do this. And even then, Okay,
so they bake Kate wins two years after the fact,
nobody's going to care if they beat Ohio State a
third straight time.

Speaker 9 (36:06):
So, yes, you're absolutely right. This is a mess.

Speaker 10 (36:08):
This is an absolute bizarre, hot mess that has that
has taken so many weird twists and turns, and I
think we've just lost America because of it. I just
we had them and then we lost them because the
NCAA said, look, we kind of have it, but we
can't do anything. So we got you know, that whole
due process thing we're supposed to do, so Big ten,

(36:30):
you can handle whatever you want unilaterally. Here's the information.
And the Big ten said, nah, not interested. And so
here's our deal. We're going to keep Jim Harbaugh off
the sidelines for three games. Michigan's gonna screen bloody murder.
It's the biggest injustice justice in humanity history. And then
what happens? Okay, now he takes the deal? Why they

(36:51):
already the three games is down to two, which and
at this point today it's really down to one because
the game plan set so really it's not a punishment
at all. You take it and you move on.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Now.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
The only people that are upset seem to be anybody
affiliated with the SEC that somehow envisioned the scenario whereby
they get screwed. Uh, and they're gonna scream the bloody
hell uh.

Speaker 9 (37:14):
Let's all Honestly.

Speaker 10 (37:16):
They're more angry that they did not think of it first,
that's what the SEC.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
That's a fair point.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Yeah, yeah, all we did was pay people.

Speaker 10 (37:25):
Yes, but here, look the SEC is gonna great gout
help us and you'll see what we really want to see.
I want to see the stone those people in Grete fintech.
Let's say what Let's say somehow, some way that you know,
that little engine that could Florida State program gets slips
past North Alabama. Let's say let's say they go thirteen

(37:47):
and oh. Let's say we have a thirteen and oh
Big ten champion. Let's say Texas wins out watch out
though I think they might move from out to Iowa State.
But be that as it makes. Okay, Let's say they
go twelve to one with the Big ten Big twelve champions,
and let's say Alabama loses to Georgia or I'm sorry, yeah,
let's say Alabama beats Georgia. And let's say Oregon goes

(38:09):
and finish it uff. How do you leave out Texas?

Speaker 9 (38:13):
You don't because they.

Speaker 10 (38:14):
Beat Alabama at Alabama they put in this case, let's say.

Speaker 9 (38:18):
Thirteen and old Washington. I'm sorry, I'm getting out of
my profit.

Speaker 10 (38:21):
So you have three thirteen and oh, Power five conference
champions in and then it comes down to do you
put in Texas or do you put in Alabama. I
want to see the people in greape Vine, Texas say,
you know what SEC champion they beat Georgia, and you
know what, because of Alabama, We're going to put in
Alabama over the team that beat them by ten in Tusta, LUSA.

(38:41):
They'd have to move, they would have to move operations
out of grape Vine, Texas because not a chance that
they could hold the College Football Playoff where I've been there.
That deep Texas. That's serious, that's real deal Texas. That
is not gonna happen. You cannot do that down there
and still survive at that place.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Pete feutech College Footballnews dot Com with us the Jason
Smiths who as Mike Carmon live from the tie Reg Studios.
All right, Pete, there is not a lot of buzz
for this game, but we could wind up seeing coaching
moves after it. UCLA USC reports earlier this week this
is gonna be the last game for Chip Kelly as
head coach at UCLA. Things have not been going great

(39:21):
for Lincoln Riley at USC. We just watched Texas A
and M buy out Jimbo Fisher for seventy five million.
Without blinking, Could that happen for Lincoln Riley and USC?

Speaker 10 (39:32):
Oh, the world has gone absolutely instinct. First of all,
this is supposed to be everybuilding year for UCLA. This
is what they lost all their good guys. They went young.
They have a good defense, they're good. They've got this kid,
Dante More and they're build around him.

Speaker 9 (39:50):
This is this is.

Speaker 10 (39:50):
Supposed to take a little while and they're still good.
They're still okay, but this is just gonna take a bit.
But yeah, you know, we're gonna try to move on
from this, even though Chip Kelly kind of respect s
door this thing, and oh dear god, really we're talking
buyouts for Lincoln Riley. It's they were a hamstring pull
away from going to the College Football Playoff last year.
And all right, so they haven't fixed defense yet, but

(40:14):
let's see what after. They're going to the Big Ten
next year. They're gonna get their offense.

Speaker 9 (40:17):
They're gonna still get guys involved.

Speaker 10 (40:20):
This is still he is very very good at this.

Speaker 9 (40:22):
They are good at this.

Speaker 10 (40:23):
Offense is great. They you can fix defense. It's just
still just like we were just talking about. You can't
quite do this overnight to get the guys for the lines,
especially the defensive front.

Speaker 9 (40:35):
You got it takes.

Speaker 10 (40:36):
A little time to put that all together. That's a tweak.
You don't blow this all up and just say, you
know what, Lincoln Riley, well done. You know you can't.
You've got USC back on the map among the elites,
and you know what, that's it. We're done after a year.
I mean, the impatience on all of this is just
off the chart.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Well, I like the chaos theory of it. You know,
with Caleb Williams leaving, it all goes right back to hell. Yeah,
and you're just another team.

Speaker 10 (41:06):
It's the USC. They could they can't find another quarterback anywhere.
I'm sure it's you know, it's again if you're who
doesn't want to pay for Lincoln. Remember look at the
lineage here, go back a little bit. You're talking Baker
Mayfield to Kyler Murray to Jalen Hurts and then Spencer
Rattler kind of didn't work, and then for halfway through
they put in Caleb Williams who then follows him the USC.

(41:30):
You're talking four heismen. Actually, I'm sorry three Heisman winners
and a guy who right now might be in the
bed pack of the NFL MVP and making about three
hundred million dollars. That's not a bad run of quarterbacks
if you're old Lincoln Riley. I think he can find
someone else out there who's going to want to come

(41:51):
to Southern California and run his offense.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Nah, he's going to follow Caleb Williams to the NFL
and they're both can see with the Bears next year.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Don't do that quarterback And Lincoln Riley's going to the Bears.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
How dare you?

Speaker 10 (42:03):
They are so not good enough to figure that one out? Parricide?
But why would he take a pay cut? I mean,
what guys, if these guys are gonna start paying him
fifteen million, they do? Belichick probably not, but uh no,
I mean again, he's here, Lincoln Riley. It's it's still
a great gig. You're going off to the Big ten.

(42:24):
You've got this off that again, it is a fixable
thing for USC, all right, the defense needs work.

Speaker 9 (42:30):
We know this.

Speaker 10 (42:31):
We can work on this. He did in Oklahoma too.
You remember with Kyler Murray's their defense last year. That
year was like last in the nation and they still
got to the College Football Playoff and pushed Alabama bit.
So it can happen. He just would like the UF
defense would just like it to happen a little bit faster.
And my other question is to keep in all these situations,

(42:53):
If not Lincoln Riley, who who you got out there?
Who's going to do what Lincoln Riley did in the
last year and a half of college football?

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Oh, Jimbo Fisher.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
He's already I'm sure he's already on campus here, he's
already picking out an office. He's gonna coach both at
USC and UCLA next year. He's gonna coach USC three
days and UCLA eight two days.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
So what's gonna go?

Speaker 4 (43:15):
But let's just throw Urban Meyer in the mix.

Speaker 10 (43:18):
Oh gosh, yes, exactly, or any NFL player or any
NFL every gosh. The Jimbo Fisher thing is just so
it's not to be totally crude, but like it's the
Charlie Sheen line. I don't pay for them to come over,
I pay for them to leave. But uh, that's that's
what you're You're paying this man seventy five million dollars
to leave. It's an off of win that they could have.

(43:40):
Texas A and M is probably gonna have a nine
win season this year. Nope, we got to get out
of here because Texas is coming into our conference and
we need to have a coach who can handle Texas
when they come here. So oh Man, college football is insane.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
He's on Twitter at Pete Futech. Check out college Footballnews
dot com.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I'm your one stop shopping for everything college football.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Pete as always, buddy, Thanks enjoying the games.

Speaker 10 (44:06):
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