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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
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Speaker 4 (01:13):
A little later on in the hour.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
But it is a celebratory week, we know, and we're
seeing all the traffic shots from major metropolitan areas, certainly
here in Los Angeles. So we appreciate all of you
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(01:39):
certainly on A five seventy here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
We don't take any of it for granted.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
We love that we get the opportunity to entertain, inform
and maybe make you a little bit mad as the
night goes on. So with Jason Off, we've had a
little bit less Jets talk, but we'll have to fire
that up perhaps a little bit more Rich Hoornberger, because
we look at had a topsy turvy world in the NFL.
As we're getting ready for Week twelve and everybody calling

(02:04):
for coaches heads left and right, I think we forget
oftentimes you know, there's rich and then there's well, there's rich,
and then there's also pragmatism of what am I really
going to accomplish by changing out a coach, particularly a
headman at this point in the season.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Well, it's it's really, if you think about it, procedural,
it's really, if you think about it, something that it's
appeasement in some ways. I don't know if it gives
you an advantage this season. Maybe it gives you an
advantage in terms of the decisions final, Right, you tore
the band aid off, right, and now you get into

(02:42):
researching your next head coach. You could get a jump
on some of the other teams that get caught flat
footed because they gone maybe a disappointing playoff run and
they make a hard decision after that disappointing playoff run.
It can be that late where a decision like this
can be made. So yeah, I guess you could make

(03:02):
an argument that the earlier, the sooner, the better, if
you know, you know kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
But yeah, to your point, it's not like all of.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
A sudden after firing Matt Canada, this this offense is
going to absolutely catch on fire. I mean, could it happen, yeah,
but the likelihood is that it'll probably remain around where
it's been because it's really difficult to change things immediately,
especially when we're talking about game planning, especially when we're

(03:32):
talking about where we're at week eleven in the NFL,
it's it's just it's a it's a big battleship to
turn at this point.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I just wonder Rich, you know, when we go from
the coordinator position and the opportunity, because you've got a
lot of plays that get Dusty right, You've got a
very thick playbook, and maybe for Matt Canada, there were
certain things he didn't think or didn't trust that Pickett
could do, or they didn't decide was in their house

(04:00):
to go through. I mean, look at the way the
Eagles ran their offense most of last night against the Chiefs,
for example, a lot of screen passes, Get the ball
out quickly into your guy's hands, try to make plays. Now,
did you have a couple of very perilous moments where
you got defenders from Casey getting a fingertip or maybe
a little more on the ball. Yeah, you had a

(04:23):
little of that, a couple where plays were blown up
and the ball popped up in the air. Now it
fell harmlessly to the turf. But the idea was, all right,
they're getting a little bit of a push up front.
Let's just get the ball out and Eventually they did
have that one big forty one yard pass that set
up a touchdown to DeVante Smith, who finished with his
ninety nine yards receiving, But.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
It was one of those all right, we're going away.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
From to a degree what this offense has been just
trying to adapt on the fly and make sure we
can get guys involved quickly. Now, aj Brown didn't get
de feed on any of that is a bit of
a problem. But for the Steelers, could it be just
as simple as Hey, it's not just Jalen Warren in
the screen game, it's now, how do we just get

(05:09):
the ball to pickings? As Jason Gole was saying last
hour with his if nothing else, it'll shut him up
and maybe you get the best out of him because
he's involved early.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, look, like I said, most likely situation is there
aren't gonna be huge, major sweeping changes to the offense
because it's difficult to do that mid season. But can
they start practicing some new plays and then once they
trust them at practice, start adding them to the playbook.
Can they start working on some of the same routes

(05:41):
but using them out of different formations, different motions, different
shifts to give the defense, something to chew on pre
snap and then have something have a tendency breaker occur
on the other side of the ball being snapped.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah of course, yeah, of course, Like.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Those things can actually have an impact on your game plan.
It may take a while, it may not look perfect
at first. However, sometimes enthusiasm can carry you for a
little bit. Look at Antonio Piers taking over as the
head coach in Las Vegas. So Josh McDaniels, he gets uh,
he gets it. He has to walk the plank with

(06:20):
the jolly Rogers out there and in Las Vegas, and
all of a sudden, they're playing like a Raider team
seems to should play right, They're they're out there playing
mean and nasty football, and Antonio Pierce is fired up
on the sidelines and they're smoking cigars celebrating wins in
the locker room.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Like it just felt very Raider esque.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
After the firing, Now, it doesn't mean that Josh McDaniels
can't coach in this league. Clearly had a lot of
success in New England, but it just it did not
work out as a head coach in Denver, and it
did not work out as a head coach in Las Vegas,
and so that that enthusiasm that has carried them through
these last three weeks now with a two to one

(07:04):
record since the change was made. What are you going
to be down the stretch of this season. Is it
going to be just that burst that you got, like, oh,
thank goodness he's gone and we can finally stop, as
one player put it walking on eggshells? Or can you
carry this? We'll find out. We'll find out what the
Raiders are made of. And similarly, going back to the
Pittsburgh Steelers, you know, we'll find out if it isn't

(07:27):
just exhaustion from being suffocated by Matt Canada's offense that
encourages them to play a little bit better offensively. Over
the next couple of weeks, We'll see if some major
changes can be made to this offense and if those
can take hold later in the season, because if they
can put this together before the end of week eighteen, well,

(07:48):
this is a team right now that's playing for playoff positioning.
They're in the picture, so you're talking about potentially enough
time to make a difference.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
We're here in the tirerac dot Com studios Rich Hornberger
in for Jason Smith tonight to Jason Smith Show with
me Mike Harman here on Fox Sports Radio, and you
talk about the schedule at Cincinnati, Browning at quarterback Arizona
Kyler Murray makes them interesting.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
They're still not very good.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Home games against Arizona, followed by New England, then a
road game at Indianapolis, another game against the Bengals, that
one at home, and then at Seattle, and you finish
the season at Baltimore. So some winnable games certainly on
the schedule. I want to get back to Las Vegas
here for a moment though, and bringing up Josh McDaniels
in the changeover.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Now you had a little bit of the schedule.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Gods were with you in that you played the Giants
and the Jets going through their trials and tribulations as well.
But you beat who's on the schedule, right, Opportunity presented itself,
I really thought. And we were talking about press conferences
and what you say, the quiet part out loud at
times again Brandon Staley getting very emotional talking about the

(09:02):
play calling of the defense and everything else. But Antonio
Pierce just saying, yeah, I got to get the ball
to Devonte Adams.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I'm not an idiot. But hey, Josh, I mean, that's.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Just waving your middle finger at Josh McDaniel's on his
way out the door. Now he got a giant what
was it about seventy million dollars parachute that he was
gliding down after getting dismissed. But to that point, you
had Devonte Adams, Josh Jacobs, all right, he looked like
he was running in mud at times, but he's found

(09:35):
his stride. You've got a couple of other big pieces,
both on your offensive and defensive lines, so there's talent there,
and so just a little bit of a sea shift
in terms of just the feeling in the locker room.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, he seemed to mean a lot. Is it sustainable?

Speaker 5 (09:54):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
This week, I mean Miami shot themselves in the foot
repeatedly in what could have been a blowout situation. The
end of the game looks very close. You were on
air watching that as it transpired here on Fox Sports
Radio with Hartman as part of Red Zone Radio, where
you hear Rich every Sunday. But it's just the curiosity
of sustainability. But with the headman the Raiders making the

(10:17):
move surprised me. Even if things were toxic, you know,
not just because Mark Davis was yelling smarten up to
fans a couple of weeks prior. It's just more the
economics of it. For a lot of the teams that
are looking at potential changes. And I'm not talking about
Robert Kraft. I'm talking about in Chicago. They're historically not
a team that's cashing and writing any more checks to

(10:38):
people than they have to.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
The Chargers with.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Brandon Staley, that's not how they operate, and certainly Mark
Davis will probably eventually just tell Josh McDaniels he asked
to sue him for the rest of his money. But
you know, those in season changes, I mean, because look
at what Washington's got. You've got a new owner who's
got more money than I mean he knows what to
do with. But you've got ronra who I think we
all presume is gone and it's just a matter of time.

(11:04):
And he's answering question. He's starting to crack under the
pressure as well.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Rich.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
So you know, in these final weeks, it's the do
you appease the fans, do you give them what they
want and your column writers and media want, or do
you go for financial and just business pragmatism. If there's
not that that hot coach that you can get the
leg up.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
On, well look they're they're again you know, stemming back
to what I said first about firing any coach mid season,
it does.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
It does. There's a finality to it, right A.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
They can't they can't toxify the culture any further. You know,
so you're ridding yourself of something that you you think
is bad for the system. You're you're kicking it out
and so now you got it. It's like you know,
I mean not to make this gory or graphic, but
removal of a tumor. You know, sometimes you just got
to get the cancer out, and you know, after surgery

(12:03):
there's going to be a recovery. But at least it's gone, right,
you know, now we could get on the side of
let's get healthy. You know, we're not managing something bad anymore.
We're just we're concentrating on now the recovery phase of
this thing. So that's one of one side of it.
That's a b is you know, like you, like I
pointed out, you can start you can start canvancing the country,

(12:27):
whether it's college football ranks or the NFL. Some of
these other assistant coaches who are flourishing in their own
systems elsewhere, you can start getting in touch with their agents.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
But you'd be doing that behind the scenes anyway.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
You could do it behind the scenes anyways, but but
it makes it more real and it makes you first
to the trough, so to speak. And so if you
get on the phone with an agent immediately and you're like, hey, look,
we are really interested.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
We just want to get early word out there to you.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Look, just congratulations on the success he's and make sure
he knows how interested we are.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Okay, love you, bye, hang up the phone.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
And it's just those little touches along the way where
again with the finality we were just talking about, it's
a real it's may it may not even be on
offer yet, but it's just it's a real conversation that happened,
and there's real gravity and momentum behind it.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
So there are some reasons to fire a head.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Coach in the middle of this season. I don't love it.
I don't I never campaign for anybody to lose their job.
I've never I've never done that. It stinks because again,
as much as Pittsburgh fans hated Mac Canada, to the
point where they were chanting him to lose his job
at at Pittsburgh Penguins games.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I mean it, it was crazy what was going on
in Pittsburgh. It was it was so it.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Felt like it felt like something that almost had to happen,
a cleansing of some sort. But I would never campaign
for it because Matt Canada. I'm sure he's a nice
guy with a nice family, and he works really hard
at this and guess what, the NFL is really really hard,
and there are guys who just aren't cut out for it.
We were just having the same conversation an hour ago

(14:10):
talking about Kenny Pickett. Here we are talking about his
offensive coordinator or his former offensive coordinator. It's really difficult
to figure it out at this level. And so I
don't blame him for a poor effort, but maybe he
just didn't have what it takes to keep up with
these defenses in the NFL. And you absolutely must be
able to do that in order to coach at this level.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Just like players in the National Football League and coaches
and shortly certainly talks show hosts like myself and you,
Rich Hornberger, we're all hired to be fired. Big drama
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Speaker 3 (17:04):
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Speaker 4 (17:23):
To ninety nine points. Rich, Yeah, ninety nine points. What
does that mean? That tacos?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
That means tacos some of the greatest promotions in all
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That gets you so much off a pizza or here's
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not just walking away with that free taco or two, Rich,

(17:50):
you know exactly what's happening. Oh, I'll take a combo one,
Oh yeah, and a combo three and those two free tacos.
Who could help themselves? I mean, honestly, no, it's.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
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need is to get to that window and then all
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Speaker 2 (18:08):
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Speaker 5 (18:09):
It just presses all the limbic system buttons and you
just get you get those ordering fingers ready.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
How let's face it.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I mean, this conversation is so germane to the week
that we are experiencing right now. I went to the
grocery store and filled my fridge for the holiday holiday
holiday with my two girls today.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
You know what I got out of there? It was
jorder bucks.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Now I got a couple of nice pieces of meat,
because you know, you got to keep some traditions alive.
And you know, they have their own dietary likes, dislikes,
hate and whatever else. So and trying to not eat
out a bunch and so I get out and I
show them, you know, everything that's coming back and being
put in the fridge, and they look at me and going,

(18:53):
all right, that'll get us to what Friday. I'm like,
your two teenage girls, what the hell are you talking about.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
It?

Speaker 6 (19:01):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Listen, I remember my mom one time was at the
so as a budding you know, football player. You know,
you got to eat a lot of calories, a lot
of a lot of calories, drank as well. She was
at the checkout line with five gallons of milk, and
I remember the lady, I'm pushing the cart my mom's unloading,

(19:23):
which probably was backward, but anyway, so she she puts
the final gallon of milk up on the thing and
she got The lady says to her, She's like, she's like, wait,
are you buying milk for the whole neighborhood. She goes,
I will be back here next Sunday with him again,
and we were going to buy the exact same amount
of milk. And the woman looked at me and she
was just like, yeah, now that adds up because at

(19:44):
the time I was two hundred and seventy five pounds
and I looked like I needed the milk.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
So milk it does a body good. Do you remember
those ads?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It certainly does.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Actually, you're you may be too young for that rich No,
I may be showing my age there.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
That was that was my window.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
And then of course you have the milk mustache magazine Ash.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Sure, yeah, painted on glue milk kind of thing that
including guys like MacGuire and whatever that people now look back.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I'm sure he also drank.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
It was also part of the program.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I believe there was some milk drag during those times.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
I just always remember that the one milk ad where
you've got the woman standing there, she's supposed to be
a lifeguard in a bathing suit, and you got the
kid who's you know, the fifties magazine ad basically personified
of you know, he doesn't have a muscle on his body,
but I'm growing and I'm drinking milk.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
So one day she's gonna pay attention to me.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
You can't run those ads, now, no, you can't do
So you find those on the internet and have guys
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Speaker 4 (20:49):
Smell product back in the day.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
We're here at the tyraq dot com Fox Sports Radio Studios,
Mike Carmen rich Ornberger in with you. Coming up in
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as we get ready for our Thanksgiving gluttony. As you
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We've got some ideas to help you through it as

(21:14):
you get into Thursday, and a litany of football games
all the way through, including the Black Friday game as
Boyle and the Jets take on to and the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
But we had.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
The latest top rankings for the college Football Playoff released
on Tuesday night, Rich and we had the leap frogging
of Washington going into the four spot over Florida State.
You talked about it a little bit earlier in the
show when we're talking about the TV show, the pomp
and circumstance, the pageantry, not only for what these Saturday

(21:47):
mornings have done. Right, You've got Countdown to kick Off,
huge show here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
For three hours.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
You guys are going game to game looking for betting angles,
but doing a lot of football analysis, breaking down and
doing the analytics of play calling, down distance, the offensive
coordinator and their tendencies and all that.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
The deep dives.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
We've obviously seen Big Noon Kickoff go into a whole
other level this year. Part of it bolstered by that
September run with Dion and Colorado and everybody jumping on
board that bandwagon for a while. But college football, I
think as a whole, for the sport and the spectacle,
we're at a much better place, I think right in

(22:31):
the national landscape of it all. I don't know you
from some.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Of the other parts of it.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
When we start adding atil transfer portal, all these other things.
Whether we're in a better state necessarily we've got more
players perhaps at the table as we set up towards
the twelve team playoffs in the future.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
But it's just that curious.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Space between all of these new innovations conference jumping to
where we have vent Land and for tonight, you know,
the spotlight is Washington taking that number four spot at
least for now.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, so it goes Georgia. What is it.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's Georgia, large house state, Michigan than Washington, right than Washington.
So there it is, right, Florida State undefeated gets knocked
off by a Washington team.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
That really survived on the road in cor Vallas. I mean,
if you look at the statistics, don't get me wrong,
the Beavers made mistakes, they turned over the football, that's
the reason why they lost. But every other measurable statistic
they were better than the Huskies. So yeah, credit to
the victors, you know, respect where respect is due. Washington's

(23:42):
undefeated and they've earned every win. But resume resume, you know,
win to win. Are we really that much convinced that
this week is the week where Washington needs over state,
needs to over take Florida State in the rankings.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'm not convinced.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Boocorn again said quote, it really was about what Washington
about Washington and what Washington did this weekend. And he
added in this show that was televised at ESPN that
the Jordan Travis injury did not have any impact on
the committee's decision this week. In other notes, you all
need to buy new TVs because his nose grew like

(24:20):
Pinocchio and popped through the screen.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah. No, I mean it's it's just not true, and
we all know it.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Look, everybody has that feeling, and everybody should trust that feeling.
Like when you're around somebody who you know is lying
to you, whether it's you know, you show up on
a car lot somewhere or somebody shows up to your
front door and they've got something to sell you. There's
an angle here, there's an ulterior motive here. You know,
they're not all that interested in the state of your

(24:51):
current existing solar system. There's something that they can get
if they can just keep this conversation going. A little
bit longer, right, you know, So you got to be
careful out there, and you gotta trust your instincts. When
your instincts tell you somebody is lying, like lying to
your face is not doing a particularly good job, it
means they're lying to your face and they're not doing a.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Particularly good job.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
And that's exactly what happened when Boot Oregon, the chair
of the CFP selection Committee, he lied to us all
this has everything to do with Jordan Travis, had nothing
to do with Washington and how impressive they've been on
defense through the past six quarters is what he referenced.
Get lost, boo. I don't get it. I don't even understand.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
You know. What he should have been is transparent.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
He should have said, and everybody would have respected the
College Football Playoff Selection Committee more for it if he
would have came out and said, you know what, Florida
State has had a really good year, but they've played
a pretty weak schedule, and to be perfectly honest with you,
there is no way they're going to be in our
playoff without Jordan Travis, and everybody would have had the

(25:58):
same reaction.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, makes sense, that's what they would have said.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
No one hundred percent, right, or just cop to the
fact it's a TV show. Here we get some conversation started,
Michael Pennix Junior gets some more shine. Right, there's another
highlight package of him to show you how great he is.
As they're now at number four, they're undefeated, and they've
won some tough battles because you go through their schedule,

(26:22):
number of narrow misses where the offense didn't play very well. Like,
his overall stats are fantastic, right, this is like fantasy football.
Week to week you ride the EBB and flow of players,
but the cumulative effect of.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Their statistics, you're like, wow, that guy was great. He
was QB three, Like was he really? Was he really?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Because let's go through he scored thirty one here, he
scored seven. Here, he scored thirty five. Like and cumulative
and the average over the course of the season is great.
But week to week I got my ass kicked because
this guy was terrible at times. Yeah, right against better defenses.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I wasn't looking at or any of those guys while
I thought about that, but you know.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
It's it's that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Also, and take nothing away from Pennis Junior, right, the
John Calipery switching to college basketball. Succeed and proceed statement
is there, but the flip here is completely the injury
and the television effect. Oh and even to his summary,
Stent is like, well, you know, we still have conference championship,
so we'll see how it plays out and who's left
for us.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
It's not it's not college football, uh, selection Playoff Committee
or whatever we want to call it.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
It's uh, it's Survivor.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I mean, nicely done.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
It's Jeff Probe's extinguishing torches. It's it's it's.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
The Hunger Games.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
It's I mean, look, this is this is reality television,
this is cinema, this is made for TV. This is
not this is not the NCAA bracket. You know that
we all get super excited for every March. We get
a so hot off the presses or you know, you
go to your favorite fantasy app these days, you fill
out the corners of your bracket, and then all of

(28:00):
a sudden, you're like, now, how did I get to
the center of this tournament with Ducane?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I don't. It's something imagin done. The math is not mathing,
But here we are.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
It's it's it's it's not that because that actually is
a meritocracy. You know, you could make an argument, Okay,
you know, seventy through seventy four, who got snuffed? Right,
somebody really got robbed of an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay, I like it.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
You went instead of snuff, you went snuffed, you went
full on, Like yeah, exactly, somebody.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
With piano wire came up behind uh Fresno State.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
You know, like, it's just but that, but that's what
it is. Like, you know, you can make that argument.
I'm here for that argument.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
But guess what you're arguing over whether a team should
be sixty eight or seventieth in the nation.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Okay, well, you know what, that's a lot quieter.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Of an argument than if we're talking about who's fifth
and who's fourth for a playoff bracket that plays two
or excuse me, three games to decide a national champion.
This is stupid. This is the definition of insanity. We
still don't know who the national champion is in college football.
We still have no idea because guess what, we haven't

(29:14):
done a legitimate we haven't done a legitimate postseason tournament yet,
so we have no idea and we're gonna continue to
have no idea, and even when they improve this to
six teams, we'll still.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Have no idea.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
He's rich Ronberger and for Jason Smith, I'm Mike Carmen
here Fox Sports Radio. As we roll on into travel
days for your Thanksgiving holiday, we'll talk about some best
dishes and best preparation because Rich has his latest flamethrower
videos out and up that we need to talk about
because he gets a little bit chaotic. They're in the

(29:49):
iHeart parking lots or at places unknown, perhaps the unknown
nearby parking lots in the greater San Diego.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
So we'll get into that in a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
But first we got our guy, Isaac lowing Ground with
an update on what's trending in our sporting universe.

Speaker 8 (30:06):
Well, actually, right along those lines, coming up just moments
from now, we will have an additional rich Ornberger food
related updates, so stay tuned for that. It's going to
be a throwback edition of a rich Ornburber food I'm nervous.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
Yeah you should be, but you should be buster.

Speaker 8 (30:23):
We'll start with the college Football Playoff of rankings, the
latest ones unveiled on Tuesday. Georgia number one, followed by
Ohio State and Michigan Washington number four into the top
four for the first time this season. Florida State was
fifth and Oregon sixth, and the NFL Denver Broncos defensive
at Kareem Jackson's appeal of his four game suspension has

(30:44):
been denied. He received the suspension Monday for repeated violations
of players safety rules. In the NBA, Lebron James became
the first player in NBA history to reach thirty nine
thousand career points. Tuesday night, is his Los Angeles Lakers
defeated the Utah Jazz one thirty one to ninety nine.
Lebron finished with seventeen points, seven rebounds, nine assists. Anthony

(31:06):
Davis twenty six points, sixteen rebounds. Kevin Durant scored thirty
one is his Phoenix Suns if he did Portland one
twenty to one oh seven. The Blazers now three and eleven.
Also Tuesday night, the Indiana Pacers one at Atlanta, one
fifty seven to one fifty two. It was just the
seventh time in an NBA game that ended in regulation

(31:29):
that both teams scored at least one hundred and fifty points. So, finally,
I have no idea why I did this, But when
Rich mentioned, you know, the grocery shop, shopping and all
the food he had to get during his playing career,
for some reason, I went down a research rabbit hole
and unearthed the following two tweets. This is from Rich

(31:53):
Ornberger circa twenty twelve.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, normally we get Johnny eighty four Mustang Rich one
when ILO's in the chair.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
A very witty and respective sports perspective there. But apparently
in twenty twelve, Rich tweeted the following two items. The
first one and I quote got some Coldstone ice cream.
Yesterday I devoured a loved sized birthday cake remix and
a gotta have it sized dia beating the heat unquote.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
And the other tweet from pretty good.

Speaker 8 (32:31):
The other tweet from twenty twelve food related Rich tweeting
the other day, I was having a meal out with
my fiance. The manager recognized me and moved us to
the best table in the Ikea food court.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, very clever, Rich. I was a local celebrity at
one point. Now we have tables vaulted to national Yeah, listen,
they do have tables.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Look and you know what some of those tables have
a window view.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, that cafe does a pretty damn good business. The
meatball's good value.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Of the Swedish variety.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I make a mean Swedish meatball myself. I've got my
ex's mom's recipe. So if you if you would need
that in your life. Wornburger.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Now, by the way, is uh is loewen Kron Swedish?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Is that a Swedish last name?

Speaker 8 (33:20):
No, I think it's I honestly don't know. I think
I think it's nothing. I think it's either German or Polish.
But I've been told it translates to loud man shouts
for money.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, that makes it up.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
So in some way we are all low in Kron.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Right, Yeah, I too, am of the Fox Sports Radio
low and Krons.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah, I'm no longer I'm Spartacus, I'm low in Krown,
I'm low in kron at Isaac Lowankron where you find
him on Twitter?

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Hey, when's the last time you looked at your tires?

Speaker 5 (33:59):
No?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
No, no, I mean a really close inspection. Worn Out tires
are a danger to you, your passengers and other drivers.
They take longer to stop, not to mention, they decrease
your vehicle's fuel economy to check, grab a quarter stick
it in the tread. If you can see the top
of Washington's head, it's time to replace. You can head
over to tirerac dot com use the tired Decision Guide
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(34:20):
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(34:44):
That's tire act dot com, slash Sports, tire act dot com.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
The way tire buying should be.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Roads are slippery, snow rain out there, Go to tirerac
dot com, take a look and think about maybe replacing
your tires.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
He's Rich Hornberger. I'm like car and.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Coming up next, we talk about Thanksgiving gluttony in Earnest.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Here on Fox.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Welcome Back, Welcome back into the tire Rack dot Com,
Fox Sports Radio Studios Mike Harmon alongside Rich Hornberger.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
No Jason Smith this week.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
He is off gallivanting, hiding out in the desert somewhere,
celebrating his birthday.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Rich, he survived another year.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Wow, he did it.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
That's kind of what we all said too, against all odds.
It's kind of like Will Ferrell and Elf when he
walks into the coffee shop world's best coffee.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Congratulations, we fled lame Moon. Yeah, that's pretty much where
we're at.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
There's nobody left in the knockout pool after this year.
It's sad we have to put our our pencils down.
That stings.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Well, you know what, there's always next year.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Roll through.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I've been reading a lot of columns and surveys on
favorite foods for the holiday season. I asked this question
on the Sunday Morning show that I do with Bucky
Brooks and Andy Furman, and I asked the crew and
I said, hey, guys, you know what's what is what
pie is best at the end of a meal? And

(36:21):
you know, there's an apple pie, there's a pumpkin pie,
there's a pecan pie, there's a sweet potato pie.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
And everybody gave their answers, and I just said, the
answer is e all of them. Yeah, each and every
one of them.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
That is probably the correct answer.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Is there one that when you close your eyes and
you wish to see after Thanksgiving meal, though, it just
bubbles to the surface before the others?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, I mean for me, like my mom always used
to make these things called the pumpkin roll, and I
try to recipe. The other day, I made too much dough,
so it became a lot thicker. But you know you
got the cream cheese frosting in there. It went over
well with the gluttons here. But free food and beverage,
as you know in a sports talk radio environment, yes
they'll they'll eat just about anything. But it's always been

(37:07):
one of the favorites shoes to sell it, you know,
in fundraisers they do the bazaars at Christmas time and
all that stuff, and it always had a special place
because you knew it was that time of year, because
you had that smell in the house and everybody seemed
to be in a good.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Enough mood you rolled through.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
So pumpkin still has that, even though it's been overdone
with all of these nonsensical drinks that all the coffee establishments.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
But that's there.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
But I've always been, you know, I've always loved some
some sweet potato pie.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Once it was introduced to me as a teenager.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Sweet potato pie is great.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
You know, Pecan pie makes its way to the Thanksgiving
table for a lot of folks. Apple pie, I'll tell
you right now. So I was introduced to the crumble
top apple pie for the first time, and oh, there
we go, yep, and my world changed forever for whatever,
for whatever reason, nobody told me that you could mix

(38:00):
what what is it, brown sugar and butter and some
of the extraneous dough and make a top.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
It's a topic I just don't I don't.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
I don't understand how that was not introduced to me
for two decades worth of life. And and and then
with you throw a little caramel drizzle on that, and
it's warmed up appropriately, and you throw you throw a
scoop of vanilla ice cream, like you know, the old
fashioned vanilla ice cream where you could see the little
hints of the vanilla beans still in it.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Here you go, see classic. Yeah, you might.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
You might have just hurt ty shirt, like I think
he psychologically. You just damaged him for his holiday. I
might have just sprained a rib like he was thinking
more about eating another half watermelon or having some pomegranate.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I'm gonna beat the ice my elbow. I'm sorry, it's it.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
But have you ever made a traduc and like when
we talk about the the stuff of legend? Right, because
we've got three games on Thursday that will celebrate we
got a Black Friday game this year. I can't wait
to see Al Michaels try to sell me blenders and
crap in the second quarter of that game. Once Tim
Boyle is terrible.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Oh, I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
To see the guest stars like they haven't announced anything
yet like that Rich, but you know, damn well, it'll
be like the Jason Kelsey experiment they had during Bears Panthers.
There's gonna be a cavalcade of guys on zoom from
all over the world. Hi, I'm on holiday in Australia,
but I thought i'd join you in this second quarter
of this Amazon Prime game to talk about my new movie.

(39:34):
Coming out in January. That's exactly what we're gonna see
on Friday. But I am going back to John madd
and everything else. At one point, I did make a turduccan.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
You did it? Oh?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
I did it? Oh yeah, it was really good. We
debated ordering one this year. The girls decided let's go
a little a little different down the pathways and get creative.
So the Traducan stayed away. But it, you know, it
took a little bit of finesse. You're talking about the
layers and you're trying to get it to not dry out.

(40:05):
A lot more attention that you have to pay, kind
of like the turkey. I think people leave turkeys and
forget about it, and all of a sudden, you got
a bunch of it that's really dry.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a huge problem. As a matter
of fact, I made a turkey this morning.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Just morning. Yeah, So what did you use for this?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
I went your Smart and Final and they tried to
sell me a ten ten gallon drum of a peanut oil.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, that's exactly what we use.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
I've never never done this before, but deep frying a turkey,
I'll give a couple of hints that we were passed
along thankfully before we did this. If you're first timer,
the first thing that you have to do, because every
turkey size is different, you have to fill up your
drum with water and find out where the where the

(40:51):
very top of the oil line should be, where it
covers your turkey, but not an inch too far because
it'll bubble a lot. Yeah, And then you dump that
out and you in the oil, the requisite oil that
you're gonna need. So that's one good tip. The other
one is you got to dry off the bird. You
cannot put a frozen bird on.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
That's the key, right, the frozen bird. I think we've
all seen. We've all seen the damage that that can.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
They actually have an acronym for it.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
It's believe b l e VE.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
It's boiling liquid evaporation vapor explosion, Okay, and it is
a real thing. It'll shoot flames twenty feet into the air.
So it's it's uh, we avoided that, which is good.
And then on the other side of doing this turkey
for about forty forty five minutes in the deep fryer, buddy,

(41:41):
it's like it's like the Mana from the Gods.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Forty five minutes that's it.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
That's it. I'll tell you what YEAH think.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
If I did that in the courtyard here on Sunday,
they'd be mad at me.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
I did it in the parking lot at the radio
station I work at in San Diego.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Did you get any permits? Did you have a fire
extinguish your andy?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
None of that.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Cops are still looking for him. Can you find me
on the lamb. He's Rich Hoornberger. I'm by Carmen coming back.
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