November 22, 2023 • 39 mins
Mike Harmon and Rich Ohrnberger react to the Pittsburgh Steelers firing their embattled OC Matt Canada. And NFL Insider and Hall of Fame voter Jason Cole joins the show for all the latest headlines from around the gridiron.
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Speaker 4 (01:16):
How many more jobs do I got to go through?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I know, it's it's really it's not.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
It's it's not conducive to like a a RESTful fall.
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No, it's been busy.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's been very busy, but good, good busy.
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There's a lot of good stuff. And obviously, you know,
working beats the alternative.
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Coming up on the final thirty seconds on the first
half in Frostburg, how would you analyze the first half?
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Oh, it's a blowout, Mike, so, uh yeah, the Lakers
are bleeping back.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
There you go sixty to thirty nine, thirty three seconds remaining.
You should see him, he's giddy like a little kid
in here.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
This is a tournament game. Smoky.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, this is a big deal. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
I've been saying that about the tournament the whole offseason
and then into the regular season now where players were
asking questions like, hey, like, how does this even work?
And I'm like, oh, please, you have the group stage,
and then of course you have the winner plus the
best record of the rest entering.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The knockout stage.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
And after the knockout stage, of course we head to
Vegas now for the championships tournament.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You dummies.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
So, just like all American sports, really easy to follow
in terms of the tournament, and there should be no confusing, right, guys.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, the bigger thing to it is just you have
a game scheduled, here's your itinery when you're supposed to
get on the plane, go play some bleep in basketball.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Market zero rich market, zero market at eight.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Right, The rest of it doesn't matter. Just go and
get after it. When the opening bell rings.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
His toe is on the line.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
And you guys do realize if this was not an
N season tournament tonight, the Lakers would be down twenty.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Well, yeah, that is a good point. They do show
up on tournament night. There's no question they're coming for
the ship.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, but that's just it.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
They want the ship, and then it would allow them
to say, hey, we participated in you're in a in
season tournament, and we went and bleep and won it,
and now we're taking a month off.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
We'll see the.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Crowd is chanting MVP for Lebron right.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Now, as they should, as they should MVP of the
in season tournament, as I like to call it, the ist.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Is there an extra bonus for winning the MVP of
the n season tournament?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
And if there's a trophy, what does it look like?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Uh, the trophy, it's actually instead of the Larry O'Brien, Mike,
it's the it's the paddle'brien.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's the paddle.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Is it leftover stuff from the F one race in Vegas,
which actually looked spectacular on TV?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I know it was mocked.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
And obviously we had those issues during the practice run.
There's a class action lawsuit that'll go down because people
were mad they didn't get to see full practices, paid
full price all of those other things. But from all accounts,
everybody that worked in Vegas this past weekend, they got paid.
They got tipped very well by the people and the
high rollers that came from all over and as expected,
(04:32):
Max Verse stop and just won another race. So nothing changes, right,
The wheel goes round and round as it were. Another
thing that changed is it stays the same with Mike
Tomlin in company, and I appreciate it. We played some
of Tomblin yesterday. In contrast to Brandon Staley, right, never
(04:52):
let him see a sweat. Rich, keep the same countenance
at the podium, even though you may want to go
throw a chair, start berating a reporter for a question.
They ask everything else, you keep it clean. Hey, Cleveland
does that to a lot of quarterbacks. Cleveland does that
to a lot of offenses. Well, Cleveland did it to
their offense again, and now Matt Canada is finally out
(05:14):
of a job. The Steelers six and four on the season,
but having only scored one hundred and sixty six points,
they've given up one ninety five, which is still pretty
stellar by all metrics in the NFL, which helps to
lead to that six and four record. Rich, but we
look at all the talent that's assembled there on the offense.
When you look at Johnson and Pickens, Friarmouth coming back
(05:38):
off injury, you've got Warren and Nasey, Harris in the backfield.
Everybody's starting to pop off a little bit. You've seen
it from Pickens, You've seen it from Harris.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
The last few weeks.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
It finally gave and Matt Canada finally relieved duties here
in his fourth season. And I guess the question to
me is, like if you were going to have a
giant blame by, like we were getting ready to get
to the trough with lots of desserts in between flame
throwing jerkeys, which we'll talk about about forty minutes from now.
(06:12):
How much is Kenny Pickett? Is it Matt Canada versus
Kenny Pickett? Is Kenny Pickett not the guy and we're
seeing all the shortcomings or is that a product of
the system that Canada is trying to run.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
I remember one time having a conversation with former coach
Wade Phillips and when when I asked him about I
forget which coach was struggling, and you know, talking about
the system he runs. And I said, and you know
a lot of players a floorist in that system, and
blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I said, so, so what is it is it?
Speaker 8 (06:45):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Is it sometimes a player doesn't fit, or the system
doesn't fit, or how does it work in your mind?
And he goes, Listen, if you have a great system,
but you have a great player who can't play great
in your system, he goes.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You have a bad set.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
So some of it is the player, some of it
is the player, there's no question about it, you know,
not being able to mend to the stylings of the system.
We talk about system fit sometimes, especially when it comes
to quarterbacks. Some of it is the player, but some
of it can be the system. Now, I don't know
where it's at with Kenny Pickett. We've never seen him
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with a different offensive coordinator. Well, I guess we'll find
out here soon, working with somebody else, maybe on an
interim basis, and then maybe they'll make a higher maybe
Kenneth Pickett. Kenny Pickett will stick around. Maybe there's enough
there for them to give him another try next season.
We'll find out however he finishes this season, especially considering
the Steelers have a heartbeat and maybe more than that,
(07:44):
even they're in the playoff picture. But this Pittsburgh team,
over the time Canada was their coordinator, never gained a
four hundred plus yard offensive game.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Not one time.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
They failed to reach four hundred plus total yards fifty
eight consecutive games. That is the second longest such streak
in NFL history. I mean, this is bad, especially in
today's NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I mean the.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Numbers, it's like it's like going to Vegas. You're just
talking about that one races. Think about all the slot machines.
They're just ringing, right. Steelers were twenty ninth in points
per possession, They're thirtieth in yards per possession under Canada,
twenty eighth and total yards, twenty eighth in points scored
in his three seasons there. So Kenny Pickett isn't the
(08:33):
only player responsible during that three year span. You know,
Trubisky played a little bit. A lot of players got
touches during that span, not just the quarterback, running backs, receivers,
you know, ball carriers.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's not just limited to the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
It's the whole eleven other player or I should say
the whole other ten players on the offense that makes
the eleven. And they weren't operating all that well either.
So I think it's a move that Tomlin found uncomfortable.
It's been eighty plus years since the Steelers have made
a firing of a coordinator or a head coach in season.
(09:10):
But this is a results driven sport and if you're
not creating results, this is this is what happens.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
That's where Tomlin got to in his final analysis and
as you would expect, pretty succinct and thanking Canada on
a job done. I mentioned Najie Harris in some of
his quotes. Quote, if we keep playing this type of football,
how long is this blank gonna last? How long is
it gonna last? You look at it like it's a
good record, but I mean it's the NFL winning how
he did. It's not gonna get us nowhere, So it
(09:41):
just rolls through, right. Tomlin didn't say exactly what point
in the game or in the review of the tape
or sleepless night after that loss to Cleveland that he
came to decision, but gets after it and we get
it this morning. Asked about Kenny Pickett in the long term, quote,
I'm focused on this week in terms of the development
(10:03):
of Kenny. We're not urinating on the fire man. We're
getting ready to play a football game and win this week.
That is the only agenda here. It's not big picture
it's not anything of that nature. So you're gonna have
Mike Sullivan, the QB coach taking over as play caller,
trying to jumpstart this offense. And as I read them off,
(10:24):
when we look at it rich, I mean, they've got playmakers.
When we talk about the NFL team by team, right,
Patrick Mahomes can only hope to have as many guys
that can at least play some given what we've seen
the last like last night and certainly in the second
halves of a lot of these games. Now, a couple
of drops, you know, ifs and butts, candies and nuts,
(10:46):
we'd all have a Merry Christmas kind of thing as
we go. But for the Steelers, the opportunity is there, right.
The Chiefs are struggling, The Ravens just lost Mark Andrews.
They've got the Chargers this Sunday. I don't know what
to expect from that offense. How much shame with Andrews
otta there. He's been the number one safety blanket for
Lamar Jackson since he arrived. So you've got that in
(11:08):
the equation. Cincinnati lost their quarterback. Keep on going down
the line. The opportunity is there if you can fix
the offense even a bit.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
No. I mean I look, and he's got his work
cutout for him, Coach Sulivan, Because Kenny Pickett. While we
went through the stats that were attached to Matt Canada,
I mean, this offense struggles to score any points. They
average just a shade over sixteen and a half points
per game this season, which is terrible. Kenny Pickett, when
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you compare him to other quarterbacks who have had at
least five hundred passes attempted in the NFL throughout the
history of the NFL, he has the lowest pass to
touchdown rate since nineteen seventy.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Rich If I were to ask him to inscribe a
photo at an autograph session with that stat do you
think he'd do it?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Look, but I don't blame Kenny Pickett. See, this is
the crazy thing about football. It's infuriating to fans. It's
infuriating to fans to see a coach say similar things
every time he gets in front of the podium. Hey,
I love the way the team worked this week. You know,
we made some mistakes and critical moments. We got to
(12:20):
get better. You know, ball possession, hold on to the football,
too many fumbles, too many turnovers, whatever it is. The
run game wasn't going, or we gave up too much
yards on the ground, or hey, we need to rush
the quarterback better, or hey we need to close our
hands around that football and catch that ball, and then
it's a completely different looking game in the fourth quarter.
Blah blah blah blah blah, and fans get so frustrated,
(12:41):
and I understand it. But the thing is, it's not
for lack of effort. There isn't a single one of
these thirty two head coaches who isn't trying his ass
off every single day and night to win football games.
I can promise you that they're all hard working people.
Same thing with all these quarterbacks. Kenny Pickett is one
of thirty two who get who are lucky enough, who're
(13:01):
fortunate enough, privileged enough, and talented enough to take the
football field and they have an opportunity, a golden opportunity.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Here.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I promise you he's trying. It's not for lack of effort.
He just may not be talented enough. We're gonna find
that out here pretty soon. Again, maybe it was a
system fit thing. Maybe Matt candidate didn't see sort of
the hidden gem that was there, and you know, maybe
they have to polish that stone a little bit to
see exactly what sparkle it yields. But we'll see if
(13:31):
we'll see if the quarterback coach can do it in
the middle of the season with a lot on the
line here, because the Steelers are real contender and like
you set the scene, the rest of the AFC is winnable.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's takable.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
You just have to put together a resume and can
you Pickett so far hasn't been able to do that
in his short career.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
We'll do a little bit more with the AFC as
we go. We got Jason Gold coming up.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Prosperg. What do you got?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Is there anybody more happy than Chris Boswell?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, good point. He's probably like she It wasn't just big.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Actually, you know, you know bottles right, Yeah, But here
here's the thing. Rich ready for the reversal on them?
Quinton Johnston, Yeah, because of MVS last night? Yeah, in
front of twenty nine million, you got to watch your back.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Yeah yeah, no, quintin every Boy, you had a couple
of those, huh.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Now we'll get deeper into NEWFC and some of that
next hour, because you know the Steelers winning despite all
of the yardage deficiencies. We look at the team leading
the NFC and who won that game in the Eagles yesterday,
succeed and proceed Stealing from Calipari. Jason Cole is going
to join us next talk some more anfl He's Rich
(14:42):
Hornberger in for Jason Smith.
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we look at the NFL and coaching changes, you know,
(16:26):
and all the rumor, conjecture, speculation, whether it's a coordinator
Like Canada, people got what they wanted right, a lot
of belly aching, a lot of crying that it's all him.
Now we've got the seven week audition to see if
it's if it's Kenny Pickett, if there's just some disconnect overall.
But you know, it's hard when we're looking at you know,
(16:47):
and with the Chargers, people calling for Kellen Moore or
in Chicago, anybody but Eber Flues and just keep on
going down the line. Sometimes these quick fixes don't necessarily
yield results or really give you a true representation of
what you are. But I'll put a pin in that
for the moment, because we're going to bring in our
guy as he joins us each and every week. He's
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l Way A Relentless Life and Shut Up Your Kid eight.
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That great.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Yeah, I'm kind of kind of giving you the synopsis there.
It's our buddy, Jason Gole at Jason Gole sixty two,
also a Hall of Fame voter, and he's a guy
that goes into the room and he argues to get
all those pesky cowboys out.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
J Cole, Happy Holiday week, buddy, How are you?
Speaker 8 (17:35):
I am? Fantastic?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
So what's what's was my music? I thought I was
going to have case Well, I prefer cool in the gang,
but I thought we were changing things up.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Well, I mean we also changed things up. I've got
Wormberger instead of Smith. So you know balance where we're
at a positive still.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Aren't we?
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Yeah, well you're improving the show. There's no quest by that.
He's like Smiths fake prepping for Friday? Is he like,
is he trying to get everything in order? Not for Thursday,
mind you? Prepping for Friday.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
He's prepping for the boil experiment. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
It was his birthday on Saturday, and I think he
decided he was just going to go hide in the desert,
gluttonize and lament his fate as a Jets fan.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
He's going to Joshua Tree to pray about the about
the Jets.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
No, he won't even further. He's off in Arizona. Oh man, Wow,
we don't ask a lot of questions about Smith's off time.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
I figured it was a either a darkness retreat or
be one of those Peruvian aahuasca trips.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
We'll couldn't it be both?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
They could watch you know what, Let's combine him, let's
come on him. You know, maybe that's the next iteration.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Maybe that's missed up.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
He's only going to the nearest McDonald's.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Well, no, after you would do that, you would go
to the nearest dupars restaurant you could possibly find. See Orgenberg.
I did it. I did it. I got the do.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Some hotcakes.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah nope, all right, So where do you want to start?
You want to go?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Can you stay with the Jets and the Boyle experiment
and Robert Salad? He got rid of the painted on beard,
so you know he's back to business.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
I guess, well, is it is it? Is it the
boil experiment or is it redefining Black Friday and Jets culture?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
You know that's a good point, yeah, because you know
Thanksgiving is traditionally the anniversary of the butt fubble, so
they're just trying to one up themselves.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
We're going all in on boil. So if you combine
boil and the butt fumble, you get quite a combination.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Hey now, hey, yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
It's.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
So. So I'm guessing Jason, because you are a football man.
You've been studying this game your whole life. It gets
much better with Tim Boyle, doesn't it.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
There's one problem in this equation, Okay, I think I
think that's Nathaniel Hackett. Oh yeah, So like we've had
what two offensive coordinators go so far, Ken Dorsey and
today Matt Canada. Yeah, yeah, natty boy.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Does he kill us a neo baby Nathaniel Hackett for
what Aaron Rodgers has been able to do for him
and his former Green Bay mates.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Well, doesn't, doesn't Paul Hackett way into the neo baby thing?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
No?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
That well that was that was Act one. We're hits today.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
Wow, we're getting we're getting almost Shakespearean.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
No, that's it. Act one was he got in from
the old Man. Act two.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Aaron Rodgers has now become the father figure. It's Jake
Leary and act too. Usually a couple of people head
start rolling. Well, that's it does make sense.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Yeah, career start rolling is what happens. Like you went from.
He went from the disaster of Denver last year, got
called up by Sean Payton. Everybody defended you and now
John Payton had a point. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean,
(21:07):
they're bad. You know, the offensive line is bad. So
I don't want to completely throw him under the bus.
But there haven't been any solutions this season. There haven't
been any like, okay, let's string together three or four
games with twenty points or more to what competitive. There
hasn't been a game plan to kind of cover up
(21:28):
Zach Wilson a little bit and help him. And certainly
there you know nothing quick, I mean, were you were
hoping at a certain point that Zach Wilson would develop
into a into a decent back end and now it's
a mental regression of fear where he's just like falling
(21:48):
on the field in a fetal position almost like that's
literally what's going on now. So you know, a lot
of this is on Nathaniel Hackett. You know, you've got
to come up with solutions to at least make yourself playable.
You know, maybe not the scoring is going to lag
and it's going to be a problem, but you got
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to make yourself playable. And in two straight years he's
you know, this is where they've gotten to the point
where they're not playable, because by the end of the
year last year in Denver, they were not playable. And
now you see what's happening in Denver is they're going
the other direction. You know, they hit you know, a
monumental low earlier this season and they've gotten things straightened
(22:32):
out where they're actually in the playoff hunt. You know,
as crazy as it sounds for a team that gave
up a seventy spot, you know, first half of the season.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
So we have another coordinator out and a new interim hired,
Joe Brady elevated. As ken Dorsey hits the skids in Buffalo,
Josh Allen has looked wobbly over the past season and
a half. It felt like it was time to make
a move. It felt also like Josh Allen had hard
feelings seeing his buddy go. Maybe he felt responsible for it.
(23:07):
He probably was in some part responsible for it, not in.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Part, not in part, not in part. Rich. No, he
got ken Dorsey fired.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
They have it.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
He got There's no two ways about this. Josh Allen
got Ken Dorsey fired because he was the one who
was turning the ball over. He was the one who,
you know, Game one against the Jets was back to
being his erratic self, not taking care of the ball,
not doing some simple things, throwing passes on first down
(23:39):
into areas of the field you're not supposed to throw it,
to taking risks that are not necessary, and trying to
play hero ball all the time. Like the key to
being a quarterback like that is to develop to the
point where you know when to do that and when
not to do that, and that most of the time.
(24:00):
You shouldn't do it and become like Patrick Mahomes where
you just pick your spots where you're going to throw
an off balanced tasks and try and leap over tall
buildings in a single bound and all that kind of stuff.
Josh is just regressing, you know. And it's stats are great,
you know, like a lot of things point upward which
tell you how great he is. But he got Ken
(24:23):
Dorsey fired.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
This is on him in Pittsburgh. It's the blame Canada.
They got what they wanted. He's finally out, but there's
still six and four here. J Cole, What are the
great stories of recent and now they're.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Not They're terrible.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
But I enjoyed Mike Tomlin. I mean he didn't he
didn't sweat in front of the cameras. He just said
Cleveland does that to a lot of people. And then
well Canada gets dismissed the next morning.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Right, yeah, Cleveland. How about the other teams that lost
to I mean, that's that's all on Canada. This this
entire you know, this is I'm not a coach and
I'm not an offense I've never been an offensive coordinators
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and I've never tried to call plays. But I've watched
a lot offense and I go, that's not NFL worthy.
And I'm not the first person to say that. There
are tons of people in Pittsburgh who are saying it
loudly and clearly. But if you watch, you know, you
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run trips to one side and guys never cross underneath
each other, like you've got to run a few crossers
crossers and create traffic and try and get guys open,
and you know, do stuff like that, and they never
do it. And this is on top of like they
got George Pickens, who's a giant pain for them because
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he's so immature and he's such a jerk ball, and
they're making it worse because by not getting him the ball,
they're not putting more pressure on him to perform. They're
giving him an excuse. I'm not getting the ball. Therefore,
you guys are screwing me over. No, you got to
you got to feed the guy like that and put
pressure on him to perform. You know, That's that's how
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this works, or call him out or just bench him.
Canada did none of those things, you know, in any way,
shape or form. And that's an incredibly talented guy who
can help you if you can get his head straight.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Jason Cole joining US Fox Sports Radio this evening. So
I look at the Ravens all of a sudden at
the top of the AFC. The Chiefs obviously take their
loss to the Eagles last night, or and then you know,
the Ravens they take their seat on top. So are
we buyers, like you know, look, sometimes stocks rise and
(26:48):
everybody gets a little nervous to buy and then they skyrocket.
Are we due for the Ravens to look even better
down the home stretch?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Or do you think this is as good as it gets?
Speaker 8 (27:00):
To see the Cleveland game? Okay, so I'm not quite
buying yet. Yeah, And I like there if there's ever
going to be a time in Lamar Jackson's career that
they win a Super Bowl, and they're going to get
close for a lot of years. If he plays a decade,
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if he plays twelve years, if he plays fifteen, whatever
it happens to be, they're always going to be, you know,
kind of in the hunt. But if you're going to
draw up a year when Baltimore can win a title
with Lamar Jackson as your quarterback, this is the year
because their defense is so good that they're keeping him
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out of third and difficult, right, whether that's six, seven,
eight nine, you know what I'm talking about, rich like
or you got to fit a pass into a really
tight area against a really good defense. And the more
times that you ask him to do that, the more
times you're are going to ask for him to fail
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because that's not what he's great at. He's great at
a lot of things. He's very efficient as a runner,
he creates matchup problems for you, he's accurate on most
of the passes over the middle. You know, he's going
to deliver in a lot of situations and he's going
to keep you ahead in games. And even in the
Cleveland game, he did a really nice job in that game.
They's had a lot of flukey things happen. But if
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you're in a game where you're down seventeen to ten,
you know, with five minutes left in the third quarter
or somewhere in the fourth quarter, and you've got to
depend on him to drive the length of the field
and make those kinds of plays, you know that's that's
going to be tough. This is the kind of team
that's not going to ask him to do that. Very much.
They haven't asked him to do that very much so
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far this year. Like to me, if they're going to
do it, like, you got to take advantage of it.
You know, you're you're number one, You got the number
one seed. You know, Kansas City is not very good,
you know at the wide receiver positions, So you can
erase a lot of things. You can double Kelsey, you
can create all sorts of problems. You can get into
(29:07):
a slobber knocker kind of game with them. Uh and
with the Dolphins or probably the next biggest threat in
the AFC, you're going to man handle them because you're
going to get them in Baltimore on grass in cold weather,
and you know you're going to do the Baltimore thing
to them. So to me, like the roads paved, take
(29:29):
advantage of it.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
All right, let's lastly for you, I want to play
word association. See what the name Brandon Staley does for you.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Jesus bred and Staley is Jesus. That's the first thing
that comes to mind.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
He's comedy s of storm, not not not.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
The religious figure. Let's just play that way.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yeah, Jesus, here's.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
That's not the that's not the number one reason I
would be a blasphemer. But you know, if there's a
long list of things to go along with this. I
just was listening on listening to him on the game
after the game on Sunday, and he said this thing,
and nobody nobody called him on it because I don't
think it really registered right away. But you can call
(30:27):
up the quote in that like five minutes soliloquy where
you got I know that the message is getting through.
They're just you know, we're just not making the plays. Hey, pal,
if you if the message is getting through, they'd make
the plays. They'd be in position. The message is not
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getting through. That's you putting the blame on the players
and not blaming yourself because the message is not getting through.
This is on top of the fact that you are
was it fourteen and six in one score games in
almost three seasons now right? You came in here espousing
(31:10):
how you're a strategic genius. Go on fourth down, know
the odds, know all the right plays. You're you're basically
succeeding at the rate of a coin flip. So you're
a coin flip, Brandon, That's what you are. You're no
better than that. You are an ordinary coach who is
(31:33):
full of himself. It's like when I heard him say that,
you know, I know the message is getting through, we're
just not making the plays. Then the message is not
getting through and you're lying to yourself. I just just
boggles my mind when coaches say stuff like that and
believe it. And he said it with he said it
(31:55):
as if we believe it. Ornberger, did you play for Marty?
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Remember I didn't play from Marty. When I had gotten
to San Diego to play for the Chargers, it was
after Norv had been fired. They brought in Mike McCoy
And what's so interesting, what's so interesting?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Any like that?
Speaker 6 (32:17):
It's dude, you're one hundred percent. So Jason almost chapter
and verse. This is a page out of his book
because I remember. I remember he used to say, and
this was my my broadcasting career. Following playing for him,
I started paying more attention to what coaches say at
the podium, what they say during their press conferences. And
(32:38):
he had this common refrain, which was we had a
great game plan, we had a great week of practice.
Our players didn't execute or or or he wouldn't even
say the players.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
He would say, but we didn't execute.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
So if you had a great practice week, if you
had a great game plan, i e. All of the
things that coaches control, but yeah, poor execution on game day, which,
by the way, is blaming the players for screwing up
your great game plan.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Okay, so at the end of the day, whose fault
is it? It's all on the players.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
You're telling me every week it's the player's fault for
screwing up your great game plan.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It just doesn't make sense. And Brandon Staley is doing
the same thing.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
It's it's it's a carbon copy, it's the whole. I mean,
it's just and again the thing I guess, I guess
that annoys me the most about Brandon Staley. And trust me,
I have this trait too, so I know exactly what
it is. You know, I'm coming in, you know, selling
yourself as the smartest guy in the room. And sometimes
(33:42):
you have to realize that you have that tendency and
then you have to mock yourself because you're not You're
not okay, and you have to you have to say, guys,
I'm gonna act like that. You need to call me.
I might bs. Brandon Staley never calls himself on his
own bs.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Fortunately, No, I'll always have us here, Jacob.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
Yeah, and I'd like, yeah, absolutely absolutely, this is why
this is therapy for me. There you go, this is
absolutely therapy for me and Ornberger. I need more Dupars
pancake mix. That's what I need.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Now, don't make that all come together at Jason Cole
sixty two is where you find him.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Joins us each and every week. Happy Thanksgiving to you.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
Buddy, Thank you, Thanksgiving, thank care.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I appreciate you always uh a great visit with j Cole.
And yes, we all that that's why we're in this business. Rich,
We're all trying to be the smartest guy in the room.
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think one of the greatest goodbyes I've ever seen as
we start the parade of declaring for the NFL Draft.
You don't want to miss this one, Rich, I think
you'll try to copy this guy. This guy's little uh,
(35:03):
this rose His pros is riz nicely done. That's an
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wanted to bring this one up to you, Rich, as
a man who went through the processes of recruiting and
into the NFL. This comes from Davidson Wildcat Barkley Briggs.
Over the last four years, I've had the incredible opportunity
to serve diligently as a career backup offensive lineman here
at Davidson Colin. While I only played during blowouts or
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when starters got injured, I refuse to let that stop
me from being a scrappy, sneaky, athletic, fundamental high football
Q lunch pail guy. There's countless people I'd like to thank.
He goes on to thank coaches, family, Oprah Winfrey, teammates,
Winston Churchill, friends.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Et cetera.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
He says, I'm forgoing my remaining eligibility to enter my
name into late into the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.
Some of you may ask yourself, quote, if he barely
saw any playing time in a non scholarship FCS program,
why does this guy think he has a chance in
the NFL. Well, this is an entirely reasonable reaction, and
I don't blame any of you for thinking this. I
(36:41):
will ride roughly zero on field value for an NFL franchise,
but I'd probably be pretty fun to have around. Thank you, Davidson.
It's been an honor. I'll be forever a Wildcat.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Holy smokes first and foremost. Well done. What is this
lineman's name?
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Barkley Briggs Barkley Bracks two fifteen.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Hashtag respect my decision.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Hashtag respect by decision.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Okay, plane landed.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
That was fantastic and I will comment on two things. One,
I think it is a little bit ridiculous to pomp
and circumstance around choosing college these days. However, if you're
building a brand and you are trying to make a
spectacle of yourself from a public relations standpoint, depending on
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what position you play, a lot of coaches, even at
the college level, are used to it. Receivers, defensive backs,
you know, sometimes you know, you know, a wild boy
up front at a defensive tackle, like you know you'll
have you'll have Travis Kelcey, perfect example, He's a character
and Andy Reid was nervous to have him on his team.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
His brother Jason actually helped talk him into it.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Like it's it's one of those things where certain coaches
are comfortable with it, certain coaches aren't. And then the
other side of it is there are a lot of
people now, given how much name and likeness has you know,
changed things, and obviously, uh, you know the society we're in,
who are a little bit diluted. And I would never
ever say this to any of these players' faces, but
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there are certain college football players who you know they'll
they'll have like little bumps and bruises like everybody cruising
to the finish of their career and they don't realize
that their career is ending, and they'll say things like, yeah,
you know, I'm gonna get my shoulder scope before the
end of the season because I got.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
To be ready for the combine.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
And You're like, buddy, it's not you're You're not headed
in that direction. But I guess sometimes I would never
want to be the snuffer on that flame.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
So I just say, you spread your wings and you fly.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Barry Briggs or whatever your name, iss, go fly.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Excellent. No, that's a good stuff. Share.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Well, you know, we had to get a little bit
of levity, and you know, the Lakers beating the hell
out of the Jazz here one six eighty one. A
couple of games in the NBA tonight as the in
season tournament continues.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
But we've got so much going on.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
The college football playoff rankings are out for this week,
a little change at the top in our top four,
as well as so much swirling in the NFL. All
of those coaches, all of the rumor, conjecture, speculation, and
the dearth of quality quarterback play. Perhaps your kid could
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Speaker 4 (01:16):
How many more jobs do I got to go through?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I know, it's it's really it's not.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
It's it's not conducive to like a a RESTful fall.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
No, it's been busy.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's been very busy, but good, good busy.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
There's a lot of good stuff. And obviously, you know,
working beats the alternative.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Yes, yes, correct, purposeful life, there's no question about it.
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Speaker 5 (01:57):
Coming up on the final thirty seconds on the first
half in Frostburg, how would you analyze the first half?
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Oh, it's a blowout, Mike, so, uh yeah, the Lakers
are bleeping back.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
There you go sixty to thirty nine, thirty three seconds remaining.
You should see him, he's giddy like a little kid
in here.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
This is a tournament game. Smoky.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, this is a big deal. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
I've been saying that about the tournament the whole offseason
and then into the regular season now where players were
asking questions like, hey, like, how does this even work?
And I'm like, oh, please, you have the group stage,
and then of course you have the winner plus the
best record of the rest entering.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The knockout stage.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
And after the knockout stage, of course we head to
Vegas now for the championships tournament.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You dummies.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
So, just like all American sports, really easy to follow
in terms of the tournament, and there should be no confusing, right, guys.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, the bigger thing to it is just you have
a game scheduled, here's your itinery when you're supposed to
get on the plane, go play some bleep in basketball.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Market zero rich market, zero market at eight.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Right, The rest of it doesn't matter. Just go and
get after it. When the opening bell rings.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
His toe is on the line.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
And you guys do realize if this was not an
N season tournament tonight, the Lakers would be down twenty.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Well, yeah, that is a good point. They do show
up on tournament night. There's no question they're coming for
the ship.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, but that's just it.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
They want the ship, and then it would allow them
to say, hey, we participated in you're in a in
season tournament, and we went and bleep and won it,
and now we're taking a month off.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
We'll see the.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Crowd is chanting MVP for Lebron right.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Now, as they should, as they should MVP of the
in season tournament, as I like to call it, the ist.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Is there an extra bonus for winning the MVP of
the n season tournament?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
And if there's a trophy, what does it look like?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Uh, the trophy, it's actually instead of the Larry O'Brien, Mike,
it's the it's the paddle'brien.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's the paddle.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Is it leftover stuff from the F one race in Vegas,
which actually looked spectacular on TV?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I know it was mocked.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
And obviously we had those issues during the practice run.
There's a class action lawsuit that'll go down because people
were mad they didn't get to see full practices, paid
full price all of those other things. But from all accounts,
everybody that worked in Vegas this past weekend, they got paid.
They got tipped very well by the people and the
high rollers that came from all over and as expected,
(04:32):
Max Verse stop and just won another race. So nothing changes, right,
The wheel goes round and round as it were. Another
thing that changed is it stays the same with Mike
Tomlin in company, and I appreciate it. We played some
of Tomblin yesterday. In contrast to Brandon Staley, right, never
(04:52):
let him see a sweat. Rich, keep the same countenance
at the podium, even though you may want to go
throw a chair, start berating a reporter for a question.
They ask everything else, you keep it clean. Hey, Cleveland
does that to a lot of quarterbacks. Cleveland does that
to a lot of offenses. Well, Cleveland did it to
their offense again, and now Matt Canada is finally out
(05:14):
of a job. The Steelers six and four on the season,
but having only scored one hundred and sixty six points,
they've given up one ninety five, which is still pretty
stellar by all metrics in the NFL, which helps to
lead to that six and four record. Rich, but we
look at all the talent that's assembled there on the offense.
When you look at Johnson and Pickens, Friarmouth coming back
(05:38):
off injury, you've got Warren and Nasey, Harris in the backfield.
Everybody's starting to pop off a little bit. You've seen
it from Pickens, You've seen it from Harris.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
The last few weeks.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
It finally gave and Matt Canada finally relieved duties here
in his fourth season. And I guess the question to
me is, like if you were going to have a
giant blame by, like we were getting ready to get
to the trough with lots of desserts in between flame
throwing jerkeys, which we'll talk about about forty minutes from now.
(06:12):
How much is Kenny Pickett? Is it Matt Canada versus
Kenny Pickett? Is Kenny Pickett not the guy and we're
seeing all the shortcomings or is that a product of
the system that Canada is trying to run.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
I remember one time having a conversation with former coach
Wade Phillips and when when I asked him about I
forget which coach was struggling, and you know, talking about
the system he runs. And I said, and you know
a lot of players a floorist in that system, and
blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I said, so, so what is it is it?
Speaker 8 (06:45):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Is it sometimes a player doesn't fit, or the system
doesn't fit, or how does it work in your mind?
And he goes, Listen, if you have a great system,
but you have a great player who can't play great
in your system, he goes.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You have a bad set.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
So some of it is the player, some of it
is the player, there's no question about it, you know,
not being able to mend to the stylings of the system.
We talk about system fit sometimes, especially when it comes
to quarterbacks. Some of it is the player, but some
of it can be the system. Now, I don't know
where it's at with Kenny Pickett. We've never seen him
(07:21):
with a different offensive coordinator. Well, I guess we'll find
out here soon, working with somebody else, maybe on an
interim basis, and then maybe they'll make a higher maybe
Kenneth Pickett. Kenny Pickett will stick around. Maybe there's enough
there for them to give him another try next season.
We'll find out however he finishes this season, especially considering
the Steelers have a heartbeat and maybe more than that,
(07:44):
even they're in the playoff picture. But this Pittsburgh team,
over the time Canada was their coordinator, never gained a
four hundred plus yard offensive game.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Not one time.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
They failed to reach four hundred plus total yards fifty
eight consecutive games. That is the second longest such streak
in NFL history. I mean, this is bad, especially in
today's NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I mean the.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Numbers, it's like it's like going to Vegas. You're just
talking about that one races. Think about all the slot machines.
They're just ringing, right. Steelers were twenty ninth in points
per possession, They're thirtieth in yards per possession under Canada,
twenty eighth and total yards, twenty eighth in points scored
in his three seasons there. So Kenny Pickett isn't the
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only player responsible during that three year span. You know,
Trubisky played a little bit. A lot of players got
touches during that span, not just the quarterback, running backs, receivers,
you know, ball carriers.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's not just limited to the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
It's the whole eleven other player or I should say
the whole other ten players on the offense that makes
the eleven. And they weren't operating all that well either.
So I think it's a move that Tomlin found uncomfortable.
It's been eighty plus years since the Steelers have made
a firing of a coordinator or a head coach in season.
(09:10):
But this is a results driven sport and if you're
not creating results, this is this is what happens.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
That's where Tomlin got to in his final analysis and
as you would expect, pretty succinct and thanking Canada on
a job done. I mentioned Najie Harris in some of
his quotes. Quote, if we keep playing this type of football,
how long is this blank gonna last? How long is
it gonna last? You look at it like it's a
good record, but I mean it's the NFL winning how
he did. It's not gonna get us nowhere, So it
(09:41):
just rolls through, right. Tomlin didn't say exactly what point
in the game or in the review of the tape
or sleepless night after that loss to Cleveland that he
came to decision, but gets after it and we get
it this morning. Asked about Kenny Pickett in the long term, quote,
I'm focused on this week in terms of the development
(10:03):
of Kenny. We're not urinating on the fire man. We're
getting ready to play a football game and win this week.
That is the only agenda here. It's not big picture
it's not anything of that nature. So you're gonna have
Mike Sullivan, the QB coach taking over as play caller,
trying to jumpstart this offense. And as I read them off,
(10:24):
when we look at it rich, I mean, they've got playmakers.
When we talk about the NFL team by team, right,
Patrick Mahomes can only hope to have as many guys
that can at least play some given what we've seen
the last like last night and certainly in the second
halves of a lot of these games. Now, a couple
of drops, you know, ifs and butts, candies and nuts,
(10:46):
we'd all have a Merry Christmas kind of thing as
we go. But for the Steelers, the opportunity is there, right.
The Chiefs are struggling, The Ravens just lost Mark Andrews.
They've got the Chargers this Sunday. I don't know what
to expect from that offense. How much shame with Andrews
otta there. He's been the number one safety blanket for
Lamar Jackson since he arrived. So you've got that in
(11:08):
the equation. Cincinnati lost their quarterback. Keep on going down
the line. The opportunity is there if you can fix
the offense even a bit.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
No. I mean I look, and he's got his work
cutout for him, Coach Sulivan, Because Kenny Pickett. While we
went through the stats that were attached to Matt Canada,
I mean, this offense struggles to score any points. They
average just a shade over sixteen and a half points
per game this season, which is terrible. Kenny Pickett, when
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you compare him to other quarterbacks who have had at
least five hundred passes attempted in the NFL throughout the
history of the NFL, he has the lowest pass to
touchdown rate since nineteen seventy.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Rich If I were to ask him to inscribe a
photo at an autograph session with that stat do you
think he'd do it?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Look, but I don't blame Kenny Pickett. See, this is
the crazy thing about football. It's infuriating to fans. It's
infuriating to fans to see a coach say similar things
every time he gets in front of the podium. Hey,
I love the way the team worked this week. You know,
we made some mistakes and critical moments. We got to
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get better. You know, ball possession, hold on to the football,
too many fumbles, too many turnovers, whatever it is. The
run game wasn't going, or we gave up too much
yards on the ground, or hey, we need to rush
the quarterback better, or hey we need to close our
hands around that football and catch that ball, and then
it's a completely different looking game in the fourth quarter.
Blah blah blah blah blah, and fans get so frustrated,
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and I understand it. But the thing is, it's not
for lack of effort. There isn't a single one of
these thirty two head coaches who isn't trying his ass
off every single day and night to win football games.
I can promise you that they're all hard working people.
Same thing with all these quarterbacks. Kenny Pickett is one
of thirty two who get who are lucky enough, who're
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fortunate enough, privileged enough, and talented enough to take the
football field and they have an opportunity, a golden opportunity.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Here.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I promise you he's trying. It's not for lack of effort.
He just may not be talented enough. We're gonna find
that out here pretty soon. Again, maybe it was a
system fit thing. Maybe Matt candidate didn't see sort of
the hidden gem that was there, and you know, maybe
they have to polish that stone a little bit to
see exactly what sparkle it yields. But we'll see if
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we'll see if the quarterback coach can do it in
the middle of the season with a lot on the
line here, because the Steelers are real contender and like
you set the scene, the rest of the AFC is winnable.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's takable.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
You just have to put together a resume and can
you Pickett so far hasn't been able to do that
in his short career.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
We'll do a little bit more with the AFC as
we go. We got Jason Gold coming up.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Prosperg. What do you got?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Is there anybody more happy than Chris Boswell?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, good point. He's probably like she It wasn't just big.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Actually, you know, you know bottles right, Yeah, But here
here's the thing. Rich ready for the reversal on them?
Quinton Johnston, Yeah, because of MVS last night? Yeah, in
front of twenty nine million, you got to watch your back.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Yeah yeah, no, quintin every Boy, you had a couple
of those, huh.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Now we'll get deeper into NEWFC and some of that
next hour, because you know the Steelers winning despite all
of the yardage deficiencies. We look at the team leading
the NFC and who won that game in the Eagles yesterday,
succeed and proceed Stealing from Calipari. Jason Cole is going
to join us next talk some more anfl He's Rich
(14:42):
Hornberger in for Jason Smith.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
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Speaker 3 (14:49):
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Speaker 2 (15:00):
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Speaker 5 (15:45):
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we look at the NFL and coaching changes, you know,
(16:26):
and all the rumor, conjecture, speculation, whether it's a coordinator
Like Canada, people got what they wanted right, a lot
of belly aching, a lot of crying that it's all him.
Now we've got the seven week audition to see if
it's if it's Kenny Pickett, if there's just some disconnect overall.
But you know, it's hard when we're looking at you know,
(16:47):
and with the Chargers, people calling for Kellen Moore or
in Chicago, anybody but Eber Flues and just keep on
going down the line. Sometimes these quick fixes don't necessarily
yield results or really give you a true representation of
what you are. But I'll put a pin in that
for the moment, because we're going to bring in our
guy as he joins us each and every week. He's
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the author of eight books, including one of my favorites,
l Way A Relentless Life and Shut Up Your Kid eight.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
That great.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Yeah, I'm kind of kind of giving you the synopsis there.
It's our buddy, Jason Gole at Jason Gole sixty two,
also a Hall of Fame voter, and he's a guy
that goes into the room and he argues to get
all those pesky cowboys out.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
J Cole, Happy Holiday week, buddy, How are you?
Speaker 8 (17:35):
I am? Fantastic?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
So what's what's was my music? I thought I was
going to have case Well, I prefer cool in the gang,
but I thought we were changing things up.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Well, I mean we also changed things up. I've got
Wormberger instead of Smith. So you know balance where we're
at a positive still.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Aren't we?
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Yeah, well you're improving the show. There's no quest by that.
He's like Smiths fake prepping for Friday? Is he like,
is he trying to get everything in order? Not for Thursday,
mind you? Prepping for Friday.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
He's prepping for the boil experiment. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
It was his birthday on Saturday, and I think he
decided he was just going to go hide in the desert,
gluttonize and lament his fate as a Jets fan.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
He's going to Joshua Tree to pray about the about
the Jets.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
No, he won't even further. He's off in Arizona. Oh man, Wow,
we don't ask a lot of questions about Smith's off time.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
I figured it was a either a darkness retreat or
be one of those Peruvian aahuasca trips.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
We'll couldn't it be both?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
They could watch you know what, Let's combine him, let's
come on him. You know, maybe that's the next iteration.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Maybe that's missed up.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
He's only going to the nearest McDonald's.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Well, no, after you would do that, you would go
to the nearest dupars restaurant you could possibly find. See Orgenberg.
I did it. I did it. I got the do.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Some hotcakes.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah nope, all right, So where do you want to start?
You want to go?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Can you stay with the Jets and the Boyle experiment
and Robert Salad? He got rid of the painted on beard,
so you know he's back to business.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
I guess, well, is it is it? Is it the
boil experiment or is it redefining Black Friday and Jets culture?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
You know that's a good point, yeah, because you know
Thanksgiving is traditionally the anniversary of the butt fubble, so
they're just trying to one up themselves.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
We're going all in on boil. So if you combine
boil and the butt fumble, you get quite a combination.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Hey now, hey, yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
It's.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
So. So I'm guessing Jason, because you are a football man.
You've been studying this game your whole life. It gets
much better with Tim Boyle, doesn't it.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
There's one problem in this equation, Okay, I think I
think that's Nathaniel Hackett. Oh yeah, So like we've had
what two offensive coordinators go so far, Ken Dorsey and
today Matt Canada. Yeah, yeah, natty boy.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Does he kill us a neo baby Nathaniel Hackett for
what Aaron Rodgers has been able to do for him
and his former Green Bay mates.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Well, doesn't, doesn't Paul Hackett way into the neo baby thing?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
No?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
That well that was that was Act one. We're hits today.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
Wow, we're getting we're getting almost Shakespearean.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
No, that's it. Act one was he got in from
the old Man. Act two.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Aaron Rodgers has now become the father figure. It's Jake
Leary and act too. Usually a couple of people head
start rolling. Well, that's it does make sense.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Yeah, career start rolling is what happens. Like you went from.
He went from the disaster of Denver last year, got
called up by Sean Payton. Everybody defended you and now
John Payton had a point. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean,
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they're bad. You know, the offensive line is bad. So
I don't want to completely throw him under the bus.
But there haven't been any solutions this season. There haven't
been any like, okay, let's string together three or four
games with twenty points or more to what competitive. There
hasn't been a game plan to kind of cover up
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Zach Wilson a little bit and help him. And certainly
there you know nothing quick, I mean, were you were
hoping at a certain point that Zach Wilson would develop
into a into a decent back end and now it's
a mental regression of fear where he's just like falling
(21:48):
on the field in a fetal position almost like that's
literally what's going on now. So you know, a lot
of this is on Nathaniel Hackett. You know, you've got
to come up with solutions to at least make yourself playable.
You know, maybe not the scoring is going to lag
and it's going to be a problem, but you got
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to make yourself playable. And in two straight years he's
you know, this is where they've gotten to the point
where they're not playable, because by the end of the
year last year in Denver, they were not playable. And
now you see what's happening in Denver is they're going
the other direction. You know, they hit you know, a
monumental low earlier this season and they've gotten things straightened
(22:32):
out where they're actually in the playoff hunt. You know,
as crazy as it sounds for a team that gave
up a seventy spot, you know, first half of the season.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
So we have another coordinator out and a new interim hired,
Joe Brady elevated. As ken Dorsey hits the skids in Buffalo,
Josh Allen has looked wobbly over the past season and
a half. It felt like it was time to make
a move. It felt also like Josh Allen had hard
feelings seeing his buddy go. Maybe he felt responsible for it.
(23:07):
He probably was in some part responsible for it, not in.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Part, not in part, not in part. Rich. No, he
got ken Dorsey fired.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
They have it.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
He got There's no two ways about this. Josh Allen
got Ken Dorsey fired because he was the one who
was turning the ball over. He was the one who,
you know, Game one against the Jets was back to
being his erratic self, not taking care of the ball,
not doing some simple things, throwing passes on first down
(23:39):
into areas of the field you're not supposed to throw it,
to taking risks that are not necessary, and trying to
play hero ball all the time. Like the key to
being a quarterback like that is to develop to the
point where you know when to do that and when
not to do that, and that most of the time.
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You shouldn't do it and become like Patrick Mahomes where
you just pick your spots where you're going to throw
an off balanced tasks and try and leap over tall
buildings in a single bound and all that kind of stuff.
Josh is just regressing, you know. And it's stats are great,
you know, like a lot of things point upward which
tell you how great he is. But he got Ken
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Dorsey fired.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
This is on him in Pittsburgh. It's the blame Canada.
They got what they wanted. He's finally out, but there's
still six and four here. J Cole, What are the
great stories of recent and now they're.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Not They're terrible.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
But I enjoyed Mike Tomlin. I mean he didn't he
didn't sweat in front of the cameras. He just said
Cleveland does that to a lot of people. And then
well Canada gets dismissed the next morning.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Right, yeah, Cleveland. How about the other teams that lost
to I mean, that's that's all on Canada. This this
entire you know, this is I'm not a coach and
I'm not an offense I've never been an offensive coordinators
(25:09):
and I've never tried to call plays. But I've watched
a lot offense and I go, that's not NFL worthy.
And I'm not the first person to say that. There
are tons of people in Pittsburgh who are saying it
loudly and clearly. But if you watch, you know, you
(25:29):
run trips to one side and guys never cross underneath
each other, like you've got to run a few crossers
crossers and create traffic and try and get guys open,
and you know, do stuff like that, and they never
do it. And this is on top of like they
got George Pickens, who's a giant pain for them because
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he's so immature and he's such a jerk ball, and
they're making it worse because by not getting him the ball,
they're not putting more pressure on him to perform. They're
giving him an excuse. I'm not getting the ball. Therefore,
you guys are screwing me over. No, you got to
you got to feed the guy like that and put
pressure on him to perform. You know, That's that's how
(26:13):
this works, or call him out or just bench him.
Canada did none of those things, you know, in any way,
shape or form. And that's an incredibly talented guy who
can help you if you can get his head straight.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Jason Cole joining US Fox Sports Radio this evening. So
I look at the Ravens all of a sudden at
the top of the AFC. The Chiefs obviously take their
loss to the Eagles last night, or and then you know,
the Ravens they take their seat on top. So are
we buyers, like you know, look, sometimes stocks rise and
(26:48):
everybody gets a little nervous to buy and then they skyrocket.
Are we due for the Ravens to look even better
down the home stretch?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Or do you think this is as good as it gets?
Speaker 8 (27:00):
To see the Cleveland game? Okay, so I'm not quite
buying yet. Yeah, And I like there if there's ever
going to be a time in Lamar Jackson's career that
they win a Super Bowl, and they're going to get
close for a lot of years. If he plays a decade,
(27:20):
if he plays twelve years, if he plays fifteen, whatever
it happens to be, they're always going to be, you know,
kind of in the hunt. But if you're going to
draw up a year when Baltimore can win a title
with Lamar Jackson as your quarterback, this is the year
because their defense is so good that they're keeping him
(27:40):
out of third and difficult, right, whether that's six, seven,
eight nine, you know what I'm talking about, rich like
or you got to fit a pass into a really
tight area against a really good defense. And the more
times that you ask him to do that, the more
times you're are going to ask for him to fail
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because that's not what he's great at. He's great at
a lot of things. He's very efficient as a runner,
he creates matchup problems for you, he's accurate on most
of the passes over the middle. You know, he's going
to deliver in a lot of situations and he's going
to keep you ahead in games. And even in the
Cleveland game, he did a really nice job in that game.
They's had a lot of flukey things happen. But if
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you're in a game where you're down seventeen to ten,
you know, with five minutes left in the third quarter
or somewhere in the fourth quarter, and you've got to
depend on him to drive the length of the field
and make those kinds of plays, you know that's that's
going to be tough. This is the kind of team
that's not going to ask him to do that. Very much.
They haven't asked him to do that very much so
(28:45):
far this year. Like to me, if they're going to
do it, like, you got to take advantage of it.
You know, you're you're number one, You got the number
one seed. You know, Kansas City is not very good,
you know at the wide receiver positions, So you can
erase a lot of things. You can double Kelsey, you
can create all sorts of problems. You can get into
(29:07):
a slobber knocker kind of game with them. Uh and
with the Dolphins or probably the next biggest threat in
the AFC, you're going to man handle them because you're
going to get them in Baltimore on grass in cold weather,
and you know you're going to do the Baltimore thing
to them. So to me, like the roads paved, take
(29:29):
advantage of it.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
All right, let's lastly for you, I want to play
word association. See what the name Brandon Staley does for you.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Jesus bred and Staley is Jesus. That's the first thing
that comes to mind.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
He's comedy s of storm, not not not.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
The religious figure. Let's just play that way.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yeah, Jesus, here's.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
That's not the that's not the number one reason I
would be a blasphemer. But you know, if there's a
long list of things to go along with this. I
just was listening on listening to him on the game
after the game on Sunday, and he said this thing,
and nobody nobody called him on it because I don't
think it really registered right away. But you can call
(30:27):
up the quote in that like five minutes soliloquy where
you got I know that the message is getting through.
They're just you know, we're just not making the plays. Hey, pal,
if you if the message is getting through, they'd make
the plays. They'd be in position. The message is not
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getting through. That's you putting the blame on the players
and not blaming yourself because the message is not getting through.
This is on top of the fact that you are
was it fourteen and six in one score games in
almost three seasons now right? You came in here espousing
(31:10):
how you're a strategic genius. Go on fourth down, know
the odds, know all the right plays. You're you're basically
succeeding at the rate of a coin flip. So you're
a coin flip, Brandon, That's what you are. You're no
better than that. You are an ordinary coach who is
(31:33):
full of himself. It's like when I heard him say that,
you know, I know the message is getting through, we're
just not making the plays. Then the message is not
getting through and you're lying to yourself. I just just
boggles my mind when coaches say stuff like that and
believe it. And he said it with he said it
(31:55):
as if we believe it. Ornberger, did you play for Marty?
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Remember I didn't play from Marty. When I had gotten
to San Diego to play for the Chargers, it was
after Norv had been fired. They brought in Mike McCoy
And what's so interesting, what's so interesting?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Any like that?
Speaker 6 (32:17):
It's dude, you're one hundred percent. So Jason almost chapter
and verse. This is a page out of his book
because I remember. I remember he used to say, and
this was my my broadcasting career. Following playing for him,
I started paying more attention to what coaches say at
the podium, what they say during their press conferences. And
(32:38):
he had this common refrain, which was we had a
great game plan, we had a great week of practice.
Our players didn't execute or or or he wouldn't even
say the players.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
He would say, but we didn't execute.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
So if you had a great practice week, if you
had a great game plan, i e. All of the
things that coaches control, but yeah, poor execution on game day, which,
by the way, is blaming the players for screwing up
your great game plan.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Okay, so at the end of the day, whose fault
is it? It's all on the players.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
You're telling me every week it's the player's fault for
screwing up your great game plan.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It just doesn't make sense. And Brandon Staley is doing
the same thing.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
It's it's it's a carbon copy, it's the whole. I mean,
it's just and again the thing I guess, I guess
that annoys me the most about Brandon Staley. And trust me,
I have this trait too, so I know exactly what
it is. You know, I'm coming in, you know, selling
yourself as the smartest guy in the room. And sometimes
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you have to realize that you have that tendency and
then you have to mock yourself because you're not You're
not okay, and you have to you have to say, guys,
I'm gonna act like that. You need to call me.
I might bs. Brandon Staley never calls himself on his
own bs.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Fortunately, No, I'll always have us here, Jacob.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
Yeah, and I'd like, yeah, absolutely absolutely, this is why
this is therapy for me. There you go, this is
absolutely therapy for me and Ornberger. I need more Dupars
pancake mix. That's what I need.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Now, don't make that all come together at Jason Cole
sixty two is where you find him.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Joins us each and every week. Happy Thanksgiving to you.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
Buddy, Thank you, Thanksgiving, thank care.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I appreciate you always uh a great visit with j Cole.
And yes, we all that that's why we're in this business. Rich,
We're all trying to be the smartest guy in the room.
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at Progressive dot com. We got plenty more NFL coming
up top of the hour, but coming up next, I
think one of the greatest goodbyes I've ever seen as
we start the parade of declaring for the NFL Draft.
You don't want to miss this one, Rich, I think
you'll try to copy this guy. This guy's little uh,
(35:03):
this rose His pros is riz nicely done. That's an
excellent Fox.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
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Speaker 5 (35:15):
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we'll get back into the AFC playoff hunt. But I
(35:38):
wanted to bring this one up to you, Rich, as
a man who went through the processes of recruiting and
into the NFL. This comes from Davidson Wildcat Barkley Briggs.
Over the last four years, I've had the incredible opportunity
to serve diligently as a career backup offensive lineman here
at Davidson Colin. While I only played during blowouts or
(36:02):
when starters got injured, I refuse to let that stop
me from being a scrappy, sneaky, athletic, fundamental high football
Q lunch pail guy. There's countless people I'd like to thank.
He goes on to thank coaches, family, Oprah Winfrey, teammates,
Winston Churchill, friends.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Et cetera.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
He says, I'm forgoing my remaining eligibility to enter my
name into late into the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.
Some of you may ask yourself, quote, if he barely
saw any playing time in a non scholarship FCS program,
why does this guy think he has a chance in
the NFL. Well, this is an entirely reasonable reaction, and
I don't blame any of you for thinking this. I
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will ride roughly zero on field value for an NFL franchise,
but I'd probably be pretty fun to have around. Thank you, Davidson.
It's been an honor. I'll be forever a Wildcat.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Holy smokes first and foremost. Well done. What is this
lineman's name?
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Barkley Briggs Barkley Bracks two fifteen.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Hashtag respect my decision.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Hashtag respect by decision.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Okay, plane landed.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
That was fantastic and I will comment on two things. One,
I think it is a little bit ridiculous to pomp
and circumstance around choosing college these days. However, if you're
building a brand and you are trying to make a
spectacle of yourself from a public relations standpoint, depending on
(37:33):
what position you play, a lot of coaches, even at
the college level, are used to it. Receivers, defensive backs,
you know, sometimes you know, you know, a wild boy
up front at a defensive tackle, like you know you'll
have you'll have Travis Kelcey, perfect example, He's a character
and Andy Reid was nervous to have him on his team.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
His brother Jason actually helped talk him into it.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Like it's it's one of those things where certain coaches
are comfortable with it, certain coaches aren't. And then the
other side of it is there are a lot of
people now, given how much name and likeness has you know,
changed things, and obviously, uh, you know the society we're in,
who are a little bit diluted. And I would never
ever say this to any of these players' faces, but
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there are certain college football players who you know they'll
they'll have like little bumps and bruises like everybody cruising
to the finish of their career and they don't realize
that their career is ending, and they'll say things like, yeah,
you know, I'm gonna get my shoulder scope before the
end of the season because I got.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
To be ready for the combine.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
And You're like, buddy, it's not you're You're not headed
in that direction. But I guess sometimes I would never
want to be the snuffer on that flame.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
So I just say, you spread your wings and you fly.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Barry Briggs or whatever your name, iss, go fly.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Excellent. No, that's a good stuff. Share.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Well, you know, we had to get a little bit
of levity, and you know, the Lakers beating the hell
out of the Jazz here one six eighty one. A
couple of games in the NBA tonight as the in
season tournament continues.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
But we've got so much going on.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
The college football playoff rankings are out for this week,
a little change at the top in our top four,
as well as so much swirling in the NFL. All
of those coaches, all of the rumor, conjecture, speculation, and
the dearth of quality quarterback play. Perhaps your kid could
be the next NFL great. He's rich Hornberger. I'm by Carbon.
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