November 25, 2023 • 36 mins
Chris Plank and Arnie Spanier talk shop on Michigan as they square up against Ohio State tomorrow.
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Which means everything is a final. Everything is a final,
which means, Arnie, We're only hours away from one of
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the most anticipated, if not the most anticipated game of
the college football season. It's rare when a preseason matchup
ends up living up to the hype whenever it's the
twelfth game of the year. But for what the third
year in a row, here we are Caio State and
Michigan today.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Just a little side note, not that you need a
side note on something that's going on here with the
whole harbas story and the cheating and the rivalry and
all the hatred and stuff like that. Are you and
you may not be interested in this. I'm kind of
because I'm just curious. Now you know that all like
h of course, the guys at Fox will be there
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for the pregame, They'll be doing their show there, ESPN
will be there, Barstool Sports and stuff like that. The
rumor was going around that they were going to boycott
the ESPN set because of what they used to do,
what they were saying about Michigan. So I was kind
of curious to see you know, where all the students
were gonna go and hold up the signs and stuff
like that. I don't know if that makes any difference
to you, but I'm kind of curious to see what
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they're gonna do about that.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I I've heard this before. Yeah, and I don't think
it ever ends up working.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh cool, But there's a lot of but there's a
lot of shows that are gonna be there though, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I know, but I just I feel like, yeah, we're
not gonna go down there and support ESPN because of
the way they've talked about the sign stealing scandal, and
because Pete Damil is in the hip pocket of the
Ohio Ride right right. I mean, we've all heard it.
I would be really impressed, you know what. It honestly
would bring me so much joy if they went live
and that really happened. Do you care about that? Is
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that something you were didn't or you didn't really care
about it? No, I think it's awesome. No, I'm glad
you brought it up, because I don't think you'll do
it in Michigan fans, they may not. You're right about it.
I think I think too many people get caught up in.
I want to be unsigned and I want to be
in the background. It would bring me so much joy.
And I bet, I bet there's some sort of deal
with the well does the Big the Big ten doesn't
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have a deal with ESPN anymore after this year? Right? So,
because sometimes you might be like ESPN will get with
the school and like, hey want your cheerleaders here, and
if you can get your mascot, and I mean, if
Michigan doesn't provide that, and I don't know if Ohio
State would either.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I would go to the couple fraternity and say, here's
ten kegs of beer. You want to make sure you're
you're a theat event in the morning.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You know, I always feel like it ends up fighting
a way to be full. But are you? Are you
excited about this once tomorrow and more? Which I don't
want you to give away your pick yet because you
have to keep people around for the next fifty six minutes,
right right? Which why are you leaning right now? Is
the harball not being on the sidelines matter to you?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It does matter to me, And you know, Ohio State
does have a good record against the spread, And to
be honest with you, the pick here should be Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know that, don't you? Why is that?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Well?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
One, because you're getting over three points, so you get
over that magic number. A matter of fact, you could
have had about four four and a half how you
got in earlier in the week. Two, Michigan is going
to be without their coach.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That is that is a big deal. Three.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Can Michigan pass enough to put enough points on the
board to you know, collaboro Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I'm not so sure about that.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
So but then again you have to take in the
factor that just playing at home though, that's such a
big thing there, you know, in this one, I it's
a tough call.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You can flip a coin on this one. I think
the most important guy in this game, it's Traveon Henderson.
I think that we can talk about Michigan's running game
and the ability to stop Michigan's running game. I think
Michigan's got to stop Ohio State's running game, right. I
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think Trevon Hinderson has just been on a on a
different level for Ohio State this year. And if I'm
if I'm not mistaken, I don't. I don't think he's
played in an Ohio State Michigan game yet. I think
he's been hurt the last couple of years, So I
think he's a big dude in this game tomorrow. I
think I think Ohio State's one of the most complete
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teams in college football. And we snooze on him because why, Arnie,
we got to see him beat Michigan before we're all
in on anything.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And by the way, and I'm gonna give you a
little bit of a conspiracy theory. You want a hot
here sports take, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a
hot sports take.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Okay, I've not seen this anywhere. This is just my
twisted little thinking. Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
A lot of people think that Hardball's gone after this
year at Michigan, correct, I mean that's nothing we're making up.
I think you even think that he's gonna be gone
after this year?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Correct? I would be leaning that way now, absolutely, Yeah,
I'm on team he's leaving.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Would you, if you were Harbaugh, walk up to the coach,
coach Moore, who is the interim head coach right now,
right and say, look, I'm not coming back next year.
I hope you get the job. I'm going to advocate
you get the job. But I'm only telling you this
right now, because you're the full coach of this game.
You want to go forward on fourth and ten, you
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want to do trick plays, whatever you want to do,
It's good to go because I'm not coming back next year.
So something like that. No, Or you think that Harbaugh
is still calling all the shots. Oh, I think he's
still calling all the shots and leading up to the game.
But I think on game day, I think Sean mortgaets
to make his own calls. I mean, Arnie, Let's remember
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Jim Harbaugh had to miss the first what three four
games of the year, and they had all their different
coaching ways in which they would go about it. They
had a different they had.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
A different coach making the calls in every single game
about right, so they had prepared for this moment. The
only thing about Sean Moore that I would question is
why the hell did you run the ball? You won,
but come on thirty two straight times, which is my point.
They're being very conservative. I'm not so sure that Harbaugh,
you know, would have been happy with something right. I
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don't know, but I am excited about this game tomorrow.
I want to see whatever you have. And I said
this right off the top, but you had two teams
that we said in the preseason, man, I can't wait
until that final weekend in November when they get to
square off, and it was like, oh, you know, maybe
they'll get upset by Penn State, maybe Notre Dame will
get iowas Ohio State. But they they made it, Harny.
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I mean eleven and zero, both of these teams going
into this game for the second straight year. That's pretty impressive, man.
And by the way, I was wrong. Trevon Henderson did
play last year against Michigan, ran for like seventy four yards.
I think he's got a chance to have a big
game tomorrow. I would.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
By the way, if you're a miss Can fan, how
many different ways can you troll Ohio State? Like can
you imagine putting up the jumbo tron of a picture
of Harbor pretending.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Like he's calling into the game, going you need to
go deep on this play, you.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Need to you need to run more, go forward on
fourth down. You know, just say like a whole bunch
of phrases or something. There's so many great ways you
control Ohio State. I mean, I wish they would do
something like that, you know, well.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I mean they don't have to worry about too much
because I mean, I don't you've controlled in the last
two years, right, right, right, All the pressure in this
game is on Ryan Day.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I mean, and I think there's equal amount of pressure.
But yes, there's a lot of the whole amount of pressure. Well,
I mean, obviously in the last two years. But if
Harbaugh's not coming back and this is his last go around,
he knows this is his last chance to get Michigan
into that championship and win the whole thing, you know, Well.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean I understand that, but Michigan's not going anywhere
if Harball leaves, and he's a great coach, I'm that nerd.
I follow recruiting, They're gonna be okay, car Bos's not
some massive recruiter. It's the guys he has on that
staff that is so.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, But Harball sleeps at your house, doesn't he and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That was one kicker. But here's my point on Day,
and then we'll move on. Yeah, yeah, Ryan Day. Even
if he wins, what's it gonna be. Well, it took
Harbaugh not being there to beat Michigan, right, and if
he loses three straight losses to Michigan whenever. I mean,
he had a team that almost beat Georgia last year
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in the semi finals.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Is that where the A and M rumors are coming
from about him?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Or is that just completely bogus? I feel like that's
the A and M rumors that are started by Ohio
State fans who are mad at Ryan Day for losing
to Michigan the last year. I thought, you're gonna tell
me what started by A a half, I think I
think A and M. I think the A and M
job is gonna be fascinating. I told you, I think
urban My is going to be a guy that'll be
talked about before all of a sudden done. It sounds
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like they're doing the right thing. They're doing the smart thing.
They're talking to the guys that'd be great for that job,
like Jeff Traylor at UTSA and Mike Elko at Duke.
But did you, oh, I know, you got to get
drunk with the names, like, oh wait a minute here,
what if you know we went and got Ron Day
from Ohio State? Right? And you can throw all the
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money at him that you want. But I don't think
Ryan Day's leaving Ohio State unless they tell him he
has to leave, and I'm sorry, I just don't think
that's gonna happen. But it's one of the great rivalries
in sports. I mean it really, truly is. It's it's
right up there with you know, you can pick any
great rivalry you want in any sport. Aren't he in
any league? Ohio State and Michigan that the team up
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north versus the buck guys, the team that won't even
mention the other school's name. The two coaches were asked
about respecting each other, and they not even asked a question.
It's great? Is it a national game?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Like or people like you in Los Angeles is gonna say,
I'm sitting over it's early in the morning. It's not
o'clock in the morning there, but they is it must
watch TV for West Coast and people like that?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Or you know, not really, it's the number two and
number three team in kind. I love it, don't, don't
you know? I mean, I mean, if unless you're in
bed and you had to work late hours like ty
Shirt and the crew back in the tyrack dot Com
studios did, what do you mean? Is it a draw
on the West Coast?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Years ago when they had that in Michigan years ago
when they had the semi finals on New Year's Eve.
Nobody watched that one, So you know, people like the
party out there on the West Coast, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Well, why are you basing everything in college football and
what the West Coast thinks? The West Coast hasn't been
relevant in college football in ages? What are we even
doing right now? The biggest splash for the West Coast
was when they hired Lincoln Riley at USC. How's that
working out for you right now? Trojan fan? Were gonna
your apologies right now?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Show on Twitter or a genius one. He's not going.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Anywhere, by the way, he said, he's gonna just stay
at UIs who wants him?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Who wants him? I'm not gonna go, Arnie. You know what,
I'm not leaving the show with us. I'm sending out
on Fox Sports Radio. You know why nobody wants me.
I'll send out every single release about how I'm not
going anywhere when I'm not wanted anywhere. That's the thing
you want. Nobody wants him after this year? Is that
what you're saying? What has he done with three winning
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quarterbacks and a Heisman Trophy finalist. What's he done? You
got USC? You got what? You got a job at
USC as well, that's right, you got paid, You got paid. Congratulations.
Now pick up the pieces and let's see what happens
when you aren't. You know, Jim Harbaugh made the born
on third base comment about Ryan Day. Absolutely no one
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in the coaching industry has been born on third base
more than Lincoln Riley. And look where he is right now.
So now it's on him. Man. I think he's a
great dude. I think he's gonna I think he's got
a chance to turn it around. But when you can't
win a title, when you've got Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray,
Jalen Hurts, now Caleb Williams. You can talk about how,
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oh coaching doesn't matter, but what do you think would
happen if Nick Saban had Kyler Murray?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Oh, if he had this type of year, They've just no,
I just mean with that type of quarterback right right, Well,
they would tell him he needs to retire.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You're the game has passed Try to tell him the
game had passed him by whenever they beat USF fourteen
to seven. Okay, Alabama's a different breed whenever it comes
to being crazy about college football and expectations. My point
is you want to get on coaches and talent. Alabama
had Max Jones and the ad Bryce Young, right, but
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could you imagine if Nick Saban had a laundry list
of quarterbacks like Lincoln Riley has had. Give those quarterbacks
to Kirby Smart Hell, give those quarterbacks to Suck or
give them to Brent Vinables and look what could happen.
I mean, my gosh, man, there's a point where it's
just not gonna work. But to me, getting back to
your question, I do think Ohio State Michigan is one
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of those that permeates beyond just the college football fan base.
I think it is some and I don't know about you,
but I feel like the sign stealing scandal is one
of those that will have people interested in like, oh, okay,
Michigan's playing and it's a game against another good team.
Let's see what the impact of this is.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Right, It's gonna be and it's gonna be closed, So
we'll keep people engaged for the entire the entire game,
and I'm sure we're gonna see some great signs. It's
gonna be a great atmosphere out there. I'm sure the
pregame is is gonna be fantastic. It's a it's a
great game to go there in person and be part
of this.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, do you think they'll be able to pull off
their boycott Michigan fans of Game Day?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, it's hard for me to say, because are
they all going to go over to Fox or they
are going to go over to Barstools Sports or.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I don't know, tailgate at your own tailgate. Yeah, that's
another thing.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And you know how they it's early, Well, it's like,
what ten o'clock you gotta get up and do that stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'm not so sure. I mean, I don't know how
many of the kids are gonna want to do it.
Maybe they're gonna want to get to them. You know, Arnie,
do you what was the last time you watched Game Day? Why?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's noon Eastern. That's when the game starts, right right,
So they gotta be able to like at nine o'clock does.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
The show start? Yeah, the show is nine Eastern to
noon Eastern, so geez, yeah, exactly, gotta be up at
eight and get I would love nothing more if tomorrow
morning when they go live to the crew. Nobody is
behind them. That would make my day just empty, right,
just just just empty. All right. So there's a lot
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
All right, Arnie Spanier, did you see what I just
sent you?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, maybe there is gonna be a problem tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
What Arnie just sent was a report from David Schuster.
David claims he's a journalist and is a U of Michigan.
Alum whatever. I'm not familiar with tyt dot com, but
I did click on it, and unlike a link that
someone sent me earlier, it didn't send me to a
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website that would get me fired. But he did say
hearing that members of the Game Day crew setting up
in ann Arbor have already been greeted by f bombs
and expletives. Free speech is alive and well bravo. The
only the only thing that I would fire back on
is yes, yes, they've already been set up. What are
you talking about? They were set up during the day today,
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you're acting like, well that was four hours ago, so
oh is that it? Well that was, but that was
still eight o'clock at night, right right. They've been setting
they started setting up like yesterday, right right.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Right, No, just put the tweet up now, who knows,
I don't it was.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It was just like the h And by the way,
no offense because we if you guys don't realize this.
Arnie likes to believe everything on the internet.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, everything, if it's on the internet, it's gotta be true.
Like you know what who probably was is you got
one guy doing the last minute adjustments and somebody screams
over there or something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
You know, nothing like yelling at the key grip. You're
showing them, Michigan fan, Nothing like getting after the freelance
camera guy who's just trying to feed his kids. Yeah,
you show him. When you want to get after Pete
Dammel or you want to get after Kirk kurb Street,
you're really showing them by getting after the on site
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producer or I don't know, the audio guy.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You go get him, Michigan. You gotta boom mic or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, dummies, Yeah, free speech is live and well, yeah
you get that camera guy, because yeah, so much too
with how this has been positioned in your mind.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
This is like a story. Now now I'm gonna have
to tune in to see what's going on tomorrow, you know,
tune into everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So now I've done a one eighty. I hope it
was a big, fat nothing burden. I hope there's ten
thousand Michigan fans just losing their mind and holding up
signs and channing we love Pat. This is my other
favorite one that we got sent to us tonight is
this extremely long and drawn out thing by one of
the aggregation sites that claimed that, yes, the packers didn't
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get their turkey on Thanksgiving Day because they claimed Greg
Olsen had torn it or something of that nature, which
sounded weird to me. But now this guy claims that
they had had a Lion's logo that was branded on it,
so they couldn't use it since the packers won. I
totally believe that.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I know.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
On the internet.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Well, what's gotta be a reason, right, I don't think
it's I've heard it wasn't his fault the beginning with,
So somebody's gonna tell me what's going on?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Does it really matter? It's a turkey, I know, and
nobody doesn't like you got Madden anyway? That's right. You
You just like having the IVY have a little controversy there,
so you want something to come out of this. This
is a good question, by the way. Off Twitter, Charles writes, any,
I got a question for you. You have favorite teams
all over the United States? How and why? It's a
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great question, Charles. I. I don't get it either. I've
never understood it. How he can be a die diehard
New York Giants fan and a Dolphins fan. Look apparently,
a Knicks and a Lakers fan. I lived in LA
for a long time. I went to high school Junior
Eye in LA. You know, then, how are you a
Knicks fan? I was born in New York, Box, New York.
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You're liking a meba right where you can just kind
of take on the form of whatever team is winning
from any.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
At the high school. I went to the high school
with the owner, so I like to see Genie Duell.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Do you think if she saw you she would know
who you are?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
No chance in hell, Oh dang it. Man.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Even if I said, hey, do you remember me. My
name was Arnold in high school. I don't think she
may may remember.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I'd like to see you pull it off. I bet
she might. Brad in lost wages, right, Glad, Right, It's
glad to be spending my work day after Thanksgiving with
my guys. What's up, Brad? Besides maybe Eagles versus Bills?
Is this one of the worst NFL weeks we've seen
this year, especially with the injuries added into the equation?
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What do you think, Arenie, one of the worst injury
are one of the worst weekends we've got. Not very polarizing,
is it.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean you mentioned how bad the games were today,
and then when you start looking at the schedule, there's
a few intriguing games, but there's a lot of dog
games and a lot of games that people won't have
interest in, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And then one more. Joe Douglas is terrible. He had
Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson fall into his lap. He
whipped on Wilson, Let Rogers put his terrible offense together
and let the O line go to hell. Joe Douglas
should be fired, not Robert Salad. That's from Paul Well.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I believe Sala was gonna get fired now, I mean
I've done a one eighty on it from earlier in
the like a couple of weeks ago, I should say
I didn't. I didn't think he was really fighting for
his job because of the injury they had a quarterback.
Now it's a complete the bacle. I mean, no matter
who they put out their quarterback, it's a complete mess.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, it's it's not good. I'm trying to think of
the easiest way to put it. But you know, it's
like the Broncos for the longest time, every single preseason,
it was this roster man, this broster the Broncos that
put together. If they get the quarterback situation figured out,
look out, well, then they get Russell Wilson and they're terrible.
They fired Nathaniel Hackett, who might just be an awful coach.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Would Harbard be a good coach from the Jets.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, but I don't think he could be a good
coach with Aaron Rodgers Rogers. But and again there's been
there's been relationships that I didn't think would work that
ended up panning out. I didn't think John Gruden and
Derek Carr would get along and they were cooking before
John Gruden got booted from the league. I mean, look
how Belichick is in Brady. I mean, at least of
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their personalities. You could imagine them getting along and it worked.
Arians and Brady I never thought would work out. And
they won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
To that, And it's only for a year, and then
you can go implement his own quarterback. You know, it's
like how to get in a one year mulligan before
you start putting things in your own space.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
But which job would you want right now? Would you
want to go to Chicago pick your quarterback? And maybe
you know, the Panthers are terrible. I don't see them
winning another game this year. In fact, I still don't
know how they won one. But you at least get
that top pick so you can pick your quarterback. And
then you turn around and you're probably gonna be with
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your own pick, what the very worst, top five? Top seven? Maybe?
So would you rather have two picks in the top
seven and be able to build something in Chicago or
would you rather take over with the New York Jets
and have Aaron Rodgers for a year.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Look, there's no doubt Chicago is intriguing and he has
the whole Midwest, and he's got that thing going for you,
and certainly a winnable division when you have the Lions
on top. But then again, you take look at the Jets,
it's New York. If the Buffalo Bills are crumbling and
the Patriots already crumbled, only team you gotta beat out
is the Dolphins, and who knows how long they'll be
(24:37):
able to stay on top.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I mean, both have a lot of pros and cons
to it. To be honest, Well, I think I agree
with who is in Matt Verderem, who said earlier he
thinks the Bears. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I said the Bears last time last Sunday when we
were on And I don't think you agreed with me
on that.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, no, no, I don't disagree. I kind of want
him in Vegas if it's not gonna be Antonio Pierce. Right,
But I'll add this, unlike last year, all right, he
wasn't really in the mix last year, unlike two years ago. Uh,
I guess he wasn't the mix last year, right? He
was mentioned for Denver? What about the Patriots? Unlike these
last three years, aren't he? I think he's gonna have
(25:12):
his choice of jobs. Oh yeah, yeah, I really do,
I really. I know you keep trying to get Bill
Belichick out of New England, but he's done. He's not coming.
His hard feeling that if they can get Caleb Williams,
he might come back. All right, Hey, when we come back,
we'll hit these Roman numerals plus more of your tweets.
But first, Steve de Seger comes rolling into the tire
rack dot Com studios one final time with us tonight.
What's going on, Steve?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
You guys were talking about the no Turkey leg in
the postgame interview on Thanksgiving. On fucks Apparently the company
is giving a charitable donation on Jordan Love's behalf.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
That was the deal.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
But the fans saw earlier in the broadcast greg Olsen
in the booth digging into one of those turducans, and they.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Said he stole Jordan Lutton.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
He did yesterday Posted on Twitter by Greg Olsen, Fox
Analyst Public Service announcement. I did not capital letat Jordan
loves to ducking up on the press box.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That's why what I saw on Twitter, Steve, that.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
One always meant for the booth end quote.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
By the way, did you like the halftime shows. I
like Dollie. I thought DOLLI was okay.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Yeah, the Detroit halftime show was not getting good reviews.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Let's say, guys, and the one in Seattle, they just
went to a commercial. I don't even know what it was.
It was a commercial break.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
It was just the absence of the neon uniforms were
giving us all a break. That was kind of a
show of its own self. And then today, with no
such big thing at stake or big halftime on the
online only game, the Miami Dolphins ripped the Jets thirty
four to thirteen in New Jersey. AP posted a list
of NFL teams in the last thirty seasons like the Jets,
(26:44):
who've had only ten touchdowns from scrimmage in their first
eleven games. That ties a few other teams, including the
Raiders with JaMarcus Russell about fifteen years ago. That's how
bad the Jets offense has been, and was starting quarterback
two Boyle in there. Today, they barely scored well. When
they finally did get the pick six, they missed the
extra point kicks. He got a late touchdown pass, so
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thirty four to thirteen Dolphins. The final Boyle was sacked
seven times, and the Jets going into this week ranked
thirtieth in the league in total offense, thirtieth in passing,
thirtieth in points per game out of thirty two teams,
And so today the Jets on the first eight drives
just seven first downs for the game only one hundred
and fifty nine total yards. Dolphins running back Devon ah
(27:28):
Chan was out with the knee injury. Miami linebacker Jalen
Phillips left with an achilles injury. Raheem Moster with a
couple of fourth quarter touchdowns. Washington fired defensive coordinator Jack
del Rio. The Patriots, at two and eight, declined to
name a starting quarterback for Sunday's game at the Giants,
who are three and.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Eight, because they all the full of them.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I think Mac Jones let out, yeah, I think I'm starting.
I think it looks that way, and then oh, we'll see, yeah,
I don't know. Also on a bye last week with
the Saints and Falcons, so it should be quarterback Derek
Carr against quarterback Desmond Ritter of Atlanta this week, and
Taylor Heineke not practicing fully this week with the bad
ham string. Saints corner Marshaun Lattimore with an ankle injury
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has been ruled out for Sunday. Giants kicker Randy Bullock
was officially signed to the active roster. Cade York to
the practice squad. Bengals wide receiver t Higgins with the
bad hamstring will be out again Sunday's game against the Steelers'
chance of rain in Cincinnati, Pittsburgh safety Minka Fitzpatrick still out.
Brown's wide receiver Marquise Goodwin with a concussion out for
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Sunday at Denver and Cleveland corner Denzel Ward with a
shoulder injury was ruled out. Panthers are one to nine.
Carolina tight end Hayden Hurst and concussion protocol was ruled
out for Sunday at the Titans. Colt center Ryan Kelly
with a concussion ruled out for Sunday against the Bucks.
Tampa Bay linebacker Levonte David out with a groin injury
Raiders Sunday against Kansas City. Max Crosby defensive end with
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a knee injury mispracticed the third straight day. Listed as
doubtful for Sunday night at the Chargers. Ravens wide receiver
Odell Beckham with a shoulder injury is questionable. Wide receiver
Za Flowers with a hip injury listed is questionable. He
says he will play Monday night Vikings hosts the Bears.
Wide receiver Justin Jefferson limited in practice again with the
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bad hamstring. The college football Number six Oregon at home,
led fourteen to seven just before halftime and beat up
rival Oregon State thirty one to seven. Next Friday Pac
twelve title game in Las Vegas, Oregon against Washington and Yes.
According to multiple reports, Oregon State coach Jonathan Smith and
Alum There, former star quarterback There has emerged as the
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top target for the vacant Michigan State job. He says
no decision has been made. Number seven Texas led Texas
Tech ten to seven after the first quarter fifty seven
seven the final. Bert Auburn five of five on field goals.
Always thought it was a great name for a Longhorns
kicker because it's kind of like burnt orange. Almost Bert
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Auburn is the man's name. Texas will be in the
Big twelve final, maybe against Oklahoma State. How about Number
nine Missouri. This year they led at Arkansas forty one
to nothing in the third quarter today Arkansas with five
fumbles forty eight to fourteen the final and another good
game for Cody Schrader of MISSOO twenty seven carries, two
hundred and seventeen yards and a touchdown. Penn State's defense
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with seven sacks Tonight in Detroit, whipping Michigan State forty
two to nothing. Penn State ranked eleventh. Michigan State two
and seven in conference. Tonight Spartans with five first downs
and ten punts sixty eight yards net for the game.
Penn State had five hundred eighty six yards. Wins for Oklahoma,
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Iowa and Tulane. Boise State and Utah State got wins.
Utah State in double overtime at New Mexico. Tomorrow, Ohio
State at Michigan noon Eastern time. As for the two
late games in the NBA, New Orleans win was one
sixteen to one oh six at the Clippers. The last
shot did not count. Golden State got thirty five points
from Steph Curry, who else beat San Antonio one eighteen
(31:03):
one twelve. Spurs have lost eleven in a row. Milwaukee
over Washington, Wizards have lost eight in a row. Indiana
whip Detroit Pistons have lost thirteen in a row. Phoenix
won at six straight and Kevin Durant was out with
a sore foot. Devin Booker got forty points in an
easy win at Memphis, and Orlando beat Boston one thirteen
ninety six. The Orlando Magic have won six in a row.
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The Celtics are first in the East, but they're just
one game ahead of Orlando.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Back to you, Oh, by the way, did you get
my email on Tuesday?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
The saga? H No, but go ahead. I sent an email.
I gave you Sunday off, so enjoy your weekend. All right.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
We're not working Sunday, are you?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Yeah, I'm working Sundays, just not in this room.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I gave it to you off, so that way to
be thankful.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
If I'm still working, though, how did you give me
Sunday off?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Well, you don't have to come in and do it. Well, yeah,
Sunday off, and you set the schedule. When is he working, Arnie,
He's not working Sunday.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
I'm still working for iHeartRadio on Sunday, just.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Not in this room. Yeah, but you're not doing updates?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
No, no statistics the.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Boss man, Oh, big deal. You go to a game base.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
So what You're gonna go to the Charger game and
sit there, eat hot dogs and drink a beer nuts working.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Yeah, such thing.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
What do you?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
You don't do anything? Oh there, watch the game.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Wait a minute, We've just listened to you for four
hours and you're accusing.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Other people of not doing anything, doing anything. Fantastic? All right,
Steve Have on Sunday night, Hey, a couple of quick
tweets and then I've got them. I've got to hit
the Roman numerals. You put so much work into sitting
this I did. I run down to me at seven
am this morning. Yes, I want to make sure that
I hit them all for the show tonight. But this
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was i had News said, all right, I got an
answer to your NBA quiz question, which, as I said,
because you're just like murdering Greg Popovich. He's a terrible coach.
Now he's doing a great job this year. Though, No, okay,
what coach? What coach didn't have superstars? And was you know,
still a great coach? You tried to bring up the
(33:08):
box who had johannas I? I do actually kind of
think this is an interesting one. He had News says,
what about Larry Brown's Detroit Pistons versus the Kobe Bryant Lakers.
That's a decent one. But they still had Ben Wallace,
who's a Hall of Famer. They had a Rip Hamilton.
They oh gosh, who am I? Who am I leaving out?
That was on that Pistons team. I think it was
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their second leading score. I'm really approving my point when
I can remember Miami Chounceley Billups. Thank you Chauncey Billups. Yeah.
So I mean that they had some dudes on that team.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Miami made it to the finals with just Jimmy Butler,
nobody else on that damn team.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
But you kill el Eric Spolster too. You think he sucks?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, I don't think he sucks. But he's did a
good job that year, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
That was last year.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, well, he's done a great job overall all the championships.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
So is that the one guy that you would say,
even though what was he like a couple of years
after Lebron and Chris Posh and Dwayne Wade, well, Lebron
and Chris Bosh in this case, weren't there.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
They what he do?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Before you got Jimmy Butler after he lost the Stars.
I just I feel like that you do. You want
to jump on a guy when he doesn't have Like
Phil Jackson, you were crushing him when he was with
the Knicks. Yeah, it's it's a mix. You gotta have
great players, you got to be a good coach.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Papovich got the next Michael Jordan right of that one?
By ya, I'm a guy you wouldn't want him on
your team?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Of course I want a eleven game losing streak. Why
wouldn't I? No, you wouldn't want Victor Wembin. Well, you're
the Knicks. You're eventually gonna have one this year. So
you're telling me you don't want Victor Wembin.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Do you make no sense to me? Sometimes you want
to sit here and crush a guy and tell him
how terrible he is. I'm like, well, you take him
on your team? Like, well, yeah, and you would take
Papovitch as your coach and all.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I would never never, zero, never would take never. I
would stop being a Knicks fan before, yes, and then
you would be right back on board when they won
four games in a row. You're like, this team, it
was funny whenever you brought up you know, what do
you want to talk about today? I saw this one
(35:18):
Kinterer at Keaton wrote, I guess your Dolphins are winning
the Super Bowl this week.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I just saw this week on it and it cracked
me up because when they don't play well, you usually
have them out of the Super Bowl. But since they won,
even though they didn't play well, are they still in
the Super Bowl? Yeah? A matter of fact, my pick
is looking golden of the Do you believe the Cowboys
over the of the Eagles or the Niners? Right, it's possible,
(35:44):
It's possible. Come on, what was your pick? There's a
major there's a major difference between golden and it's like, oh,
it's possible. What was the Niners and the Chiefs? The Niners?
That's still that's still a good one too. That's a
good one. Yeah. I mean I didn't freak out because
it wasn't on the list in the studio like you did,
so I might have changed it for or five times,
(36:05):
but I will say you initially wanted to put the
Saints in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
For Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. I
bump my head on that. I'm glad I rethought that one.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
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Speaker 3 (00:36):
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(01:03):
Quite yet? No ball game? Just at what's sixteen one
o nine? The Pelicans a beat can hold more than
it's belly? Can the New Orleans Pelicans beat the Clippers tonight?
Which means everything is a final. Everything is a final,
which means, Arnie, We're only hours away from one of
(01:24):
the most anticipated, if not the most anticipated game of
the college football season. It's rare when a preseason matchup
ends up living up to the hype whenever it's the
twelfth game of the year. But for what the third
year in a row, here we are Caio State and
Michigan today.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Just a little side note, not that you need a
side note on something that's going on here with the
whole harbas story and the cheating and the rivalry and
all the hatred and stuff like that. Are you and
you may not be interested in this. I'm kind of
because I'm just curious. Now you know that all like
h of course, the guys at Fox will be there
(02:06):
for the pregame, They'll be doing their show there, ESPN
will be there, Barstool Sports and stuff like that. The
rumor was going around that they were going to boycott
the ESPN set because of what they used to do,
what they were saying about Michigan. So I was kind
of curious to see you know, where all the students
were gonna go and hold up the signs and stuff
like that. I don't know if that makes any difference
to you, but I'm kind of curious to see what
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they're gonna do about that.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I I've heard this before. Yeah, and I don't think
it ever ends up working.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh cool, But there's a lot of but there's a
lot of shows that are gonna be there though, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I know, but I just I feel like, yeah, we're
not gonna go down there and support ESPN because of
the way they've talked about the sign stealing scandal, and
because Pete Damil is in the hip pocket of the
Ohio Ride right right. I mean, we've all heard it.
I would be really impressed, you know what. It honestly
would bring me so much joy if they went live
and that really happened. Do you care about that? Is
(03:01):
that something you were didn't or you didn't really care
about it? No, I think it's awesome. No, I'm glad
you brought it up, because I don't think you'll do
it in Michigan fans, they may not. You're right about it.
I think I think too many people get caught up in.
I want to be unsigned and I want to be
in the background. It would bring me so much joy.
And I bet, I bet there's some sort of deal
with the well does the Big the Big ten doesn't
(03:22):
have a deal with ESPN anymore after this year? Right? So,
because sometimes you might be like ESPN will get with
the school and like, hey want your cheerleaders here, and
if you can get your mascot, and I mean, if
Michigan doesn't provide that, and I don't know if Ohio
State would either.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I would go to the couple fraternity and say, here's
ten kegs of beer. You want to make sure you're
you're a theat event in the morning.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You know, I always feel like it ends up fighting
a way to be full. But are you? Are you
excited about this once tomorrow and more? Which I don't
want you to give away your pick yet because you
have to keep people around for the next fifty six minutes,
right right? Which why are you leaning right now? Is
the harball not being on the sidelines matter to you?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It does matter to me, And you know, Ohio State
does have a good record against the spread, And to
be honest with you, the pick here should be Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know that, don't you? Why is that?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Well?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
One, because you're getting over three points, so you get
over that magic number. A matter of fact, you could
have had about four four and a half how you
got in earlier in the week. Two, Michigan is going
to be without their coach.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That is that is a big deal. Three.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Can Michigan pass enough to put enough points on the
board to you know, collaboro Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I'm not so sure about that.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
So but then again you have to take in the
factor that just playing at home though, that's such a
big thing there, you know, in this one, I it's
a tough call.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You can flip a coin on this one. I think
the most important guy in this game, it's Traveon Henderson.
I think that we can talk about Michigan's running game
and the ability to stop Michigan's running game. I think
Michigan's got to stop Ohio State's running game, right. I
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think Trevon Hinderson has just been on a on a
different level for Ohio State this year. And if I'm
if I'm not mistaken, I don't. I don't think he's
played in an Ohio State Michigan game yet. I think
he's been hurt the last couple of years, So I
think he's a big dude in this game tomorrow. I
think I think Ohio State's one of the most complete
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teams in college football. And we snooze on him because why, Arnie,
we got to see him beat Michigan before we're all
in on anything.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And by the way, and I'm gonna give you a
little bit of a conspiracy theory. You want a hot
here sports take, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a
hot sports take.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Okay, I've not seen this anywhere. This is just my
twisted little thinking. Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
A lot of people think that Hardball's gone after this
year at Michigan, correct, I mean that's nothing we're making up.
I think you even think that he's gonna be gone
after this year?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Correct? I would be leaning that way now, absolutely, Yeah,
I'm on team he's leaving.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Would you, if you were Harbaugh, walk up to the coach,
coach Moore, who is the interim head coach right now,
right and say, look, I'm not coming back next year.
I hope you get the job. I'm going to advocate
you get the job. But I'm only telling you this
right now, because you're the full coach of this game.
You want to go forward on fourth and ten, you
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want to do trick plays, whatever you want to do,
It's good to go because I'm not coming back next year.
So something like that. No, Or you think that Harbaugh
is still calling all the shots. Oh, I think he's
still calling all the shots and leading up to the game.
But I think on game day, I think Sean mortgaets
to make his own calls. I mean, Arnie, Let's remember
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Jim Harbaugh had to miss the first what three four
games of the year, and they had all their different
coaching ways in which they would go about it. They
had a different they had.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
A different coach making the calls in every single game
about right, so they had prepared for this moment. The
only thing about Sean Moore that I would question is
why the hell did you run the ball? You won,
but come on thirty two straight times, which is my point.
They're being very conservative. I'm not so sure that Harbaugh,
you know, would have been happy with something right. I
(07:21):
don't know, but I am excited about this game tomorrow.
I want to see whatever you have. And I said
this right off the top, but you had two teams
that we said in the preseason, man, I can't wait
until that final weekend in November when they get to
square off, and it was like, oh, you know, maybe
they'll get upset by Penn State, maybe Notre Dame will
get iowas Ohio State. But they they made it, Harny.
(07:44):
I mean eleven and zero, both of these teams going
into this game for the second straight year. That's pretty impressive, man.
And by the way, I was wrong. Trevon Henderson did
play last year against Michigan, ran for like seventy four yards.
I think he's got a chance to have a big
game tomorrow. I would.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
By the way, if you're a miss Can fan, how
many different ways can you troll Ohio State? Like can
you imagine putting up the jumbo tron of a picture
of Harbor pretending.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Like he's calling into the game, going you need to
go deep on this play, you.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Need to you need to run more, go forward on
fourth down. You know, just say like a whole bunch
of phrases or something. There's so many great ways you
control Ohio State. I mean, I wish they would do
something like that, you know, well.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I mean they don't have to worry about too much
because I mean, I don't you've controlled in the last
two years, right, right, right, All the pressure in this
game is on Ryan Day.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I mean, and I think there's equal amount of pressure.
But yes, there's a lot of the whole amount of pressure. Well,
I mean, obviously in the last two years. But if
Harbaugh's not coming back and this is his last go around,
he knows this is his last chance to get Michigan
into that championship and win the whole thing, you know, Well.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean I understand that, but Michigan's not going anywhere
if Harball leaves, and he's a great coach, I'm that nerd.
I follow recruiting, They're gonna be okay, car Bos's not
some massive recruiter. It's the guys he has on that
staff that is so.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, But Harball sleeps at your house, doesn't he and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That was one kicker. But here's my point on Day,
and then we'll move on. Yeah, yeah, Ryan Day. Even
if he wins, what's it gonna be. Well, it took
Harbaugh not being there to beat Michigan, right, and if
he loses three straight losses to Michigan whenever. I mean,
he had a team that almost beat Georgia last year
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in the semi finals.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Is that where the A and M rumors are coming
from about him?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Or is that just completely bogus? I feel like that's
the A and M rumors that are started by Ohio
State fans who are mad at Ryan Day for losing
to Michigan the last year. I thought, you're gonna tell
me what started by A a half, I think I
think A and M. I think the A and M
job is gonna be fascinating. I told you, I think
urban My is going to be a guy that'll be
talked about before all of a sudden done. It sounds
(10:03):
like they're doing the right thing. They're doing the smart thing.
They're talking to the guys that'd be great for that job,
like Jeff Traylor at UTSA and Mike Elko at Duke.
But did you, oh, I know, you got to get
drunk with the names, like, oh wait a minute here,
what if you know we went and got Ron Day
from Ohio State? Right? And you can throw all the
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money at him that you want. But I don't think
Ryan Day's leaving Ohio State unless they tell him he
has to leave, and I'm sorry, I just don't think
that's gonna happen. But it's one of the great rivalries
in sports. I mean it really, truly is. It's it's
right up there with you know, you can pick any
great rivalry you want in any sport. Aren't he in
any league? Ohio State and Michigan that the team up
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north versus the buck guys, the team that won't even
mention the other school's name. The two coaches were asked
about respecting each other, and they not even asked a question.
It's great? Is it a national game?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Like or people like you in Los Angeles is gonna say,
I'm sitting over it's early in the morning. It's not
o'clock in the morning there, but they is it must
watch TV for West Coast and people like that?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Or you know, not really, it's the number two and
number three team in kind. I love it, don't, don't
you know? I mean, I mean, if unless you're in
bed and you had to work late hours like ty
Shirt and the crew back in the tyrack dot Com
studios did, what do you mean? Is it a draw
on the West Coast?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Years ago when they had that in Michigan years ago
when they had the semi finals on New Year's Eve.
Nobody watched that one, So you know, people like the
party out there on the West Coast, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Well, why are you basing everything in college football and
what the West Coast thinks? The West Coast hasn't been
relevant in college football in ages? What are we even
doing right now? The biggest splash for the West Coast
was when they hired Lincoln Riley at USC. How's that
working out for you right now? Trojan fan? Were gonna
your apologies right now?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Show on Twitter or a genius one. He's not going.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Anywhere, by the way, he said, he's gonna just stay
at UIs who wants him?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Who wants him? I'm not gonna go, Arnie. You know what,
I'm not leaving the show with us. I'm sending out
on Fox Sports Radio. You know why nobody wants me.
I'll send out every single release about how I'm not
going anywhere when I'm not wanted anywhere. That's the thing
you want. Nobody wants him after this year? Is that
what you're saying? What has he done with three winning
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quarterbacks and a Heisman Trophy finalist. What's he done? You
got USC? You got what? You got a job at
USC as well, that's right, you got paid, You got paid. Congratulations.
Now pick up the pieces and let's see what happens
when you aren't. You know, Jim Harbaugh made the born
on third base comment about Ryan Day. Absolutely no one
(12:49):
in the coaching industry has been born on third base
more than Lincoln Riley. And look where he is right now.
So now it's on him. Man. I think he's a
great dude. I think he's gonna I think he's got
a chance to turn it around. But when you can't
win a title, when you've got Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray,
Jalen Hurts, now Caleb Williams. You can talk about how,
(13:09):
oh coaching doesn't matter, but what do you think would
happen if Nick Saban had Kyler Murray?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Oh, if he had this type of year, They've just no,
I just mean with that type of quarterback right right, Well,
they would tell him he needs to retire.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You're the game has passed Try to tell him the
game had passed him by whenever they beat USF fourteen
to seven. Okay, Alabama's a different breed whenever it comes
to being crazy about college football and expectations. My point
is you want to get on coaches and talent. Alabama
had Max Jones and the ad Bryce Young, right, but
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could you imagine if Nick Saban had a laundry list
of quarterbacks like Lincoln Riley has had. Give those quarterbacks
to Kirby Smart Hell, give those quarterbacks to Suck or
give them to Brent Vinables and look what could happen.
I mean, my gosh, man, there's a point where it's
just not gonna work. But to me, getting back to
your question, I do think Ohio State Michigan is one
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of those that permeates beyond just the college football fan base.
I think it is some and I don't know about you,
but I feel like the sign stealing scandal is one
of those that will have people interested in like, oh, okay,
Michigan's playing and it's a game against another good team.
Let's see what the impact of this is.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Right, It's gonna be and it's gonna be closed, So
we'll keep people engaged for the entire the entire game,
and I'm sure we're gonna see some great signs. It's
gonna be a great atmosphere out there. I'm sure the
pregame is is gonna be fantastic. It's a it's a
great game to go there in person and be part
of this.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, do you think they'll be able to pull off
their boycott Michigan fans of Game Day?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, it's hard for me to say, because are
they all going to go over to Fox or they
are going to go over to Barstools Sports or.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I don't know, tailgate at your own tailgate. Yeah, that's
another thing.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And you know how they it's early, Well, it's like,
what ten o'clock you gotta get up and do that stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'm not so sure. I mean, I don't know how
many of the kids are gonna want to do it.
Maybe they're gonna want to get to them. You know, Arnie,
do you what was the last time you watched Game Day? Why?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's noon Eastern. That's when the game starts, right right,
So they gotta be able to like at nine o'clock does.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
The show start? Yeah, the show is nine Eastern to
noon Eastern, so geez, yeah, exactly, gotta be up at
eight and get I would love nothing more if tomorrow
morning when they go live to the crew. Nobody is
behind them. That would make my day just empty, right,
just just just empty. All right. So there's a lot
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
All right, Arnie Spanier, did you see what I just
sent you?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, maybe there is gonna be a problem tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
What Arnie just sent was a report from David Schuster.
David claims he's a journalist and is a U of Michigan.
Alum whatever. I'm not familiar with tyt dot com, but
I did click on it, and unlike a link that
someone sent me earlier, it didn't send me to a
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website that would get me fired. But he did say
hearing that members of the Game Day crew setting up
in ann Arbor have already been greeted by f bombs
and expletives. Free speech is alive and well bravo. The
only the only thing that I would fire back on
is yes, yes, they've already been set up. What are
you talking about? They were set up during the day today,
(17:56):
you're acting like, well that was four hours ago, so
oh is that it? Well that was, but that was
still eight o'clock at night, right right. They've been setting
they started setting up like yesterday, right right.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Right, No, just put the tweet up now, who knows,
I don't it was.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It was just like the h And by the way,
no offense because we if you guys don't realize this.
Arnie likes to believe everything on the internet.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, everything, if it's on the internet, it's gotta be true.
Like you know what who probably was is you got
one guy doing the last minute adjustments and somebody screams
over there or something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
You know, nothing like yelling at the key grip. You're
showing them, Michigan fan, Nothing like getting after the freelance
camera guy who's just trying to feed his kids. Yeah,
you show him. When you want to get after Pete
Dammel or you want to get after Kirk kurb Street,
you're really showing them by getting after the on site
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producer or I don't know, the audio guy.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You go get him, Michigan. You gotta boom mic or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, dummies, Yeah, free speech is live and well, yeah
you get that camera guy, because yeah, so much too
with how this has been positioned in your mind.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
This is like a story. Now now I'm gonna have
to tune in to see what's going on tomorrow, you know,
tune into everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So now I've done a one eighty. I hope it
was a big, fat nothing burden. I hope there's ten
thousand Michigan fans just losing their mind and holding up
signs and channing we love Pat. This is my other
favorite one that we got sent to us tonight is
this extremely long and drawn out thing by one of
the aggregation sites that claimed that, yes, the packers didn't
(19:40):
get their turkey on Thanksgiving Day because they claimed Greg
Olsen had torn it or something of that nature, which
sounded weird to me. But now this guy claims that
they had had a Lion's logo that was branded on it,
so they couldn't use it since the packers won. I
totally believe that.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I know.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
On the internet.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Well, what's gotta be a reason, right, I don't think
it's I've heard it wasn't his fault the beginning with,
So somebody's gonna tell me what's going on?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Does it really matter? It's a turkey, I know, and
nobody doesn't like you got Madden anyway? That's right. You
You just like having the IVY have a little controversy there,
so you want something to come out of this. This
is a good question, by the way. Off Twitter, Charles writes, any,
I got a question for you. You have favorite teams
all over the United States? How and why? It's a
(20:33):
great question, Charles. I. I don't get it either. I've
never understood it. How he can be a die diehard
New York Giants fan and a Dolphins fan. Look apparently,
a Knicks and a Lakers fan. I lived in LA
for a long time. I went to high school Junior
Eye in LA. You know, then, how are you a
Knicks fan? I was born in New York, Box, New York.
(20:55):
You're liking a meba right where you can just kind
of take on the form of whatever team is winning
from any.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
At the high school. I went to the high school
with the owner, so I like to see Genie Duell.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Do you think if she saw you she would know
who you are?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
No chance in hell, Oh dang it. Man.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Even if I said, hey, do you remember me. My
name was Arnold in high school. I don't think she
may may remember.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I'd like to see you pull it off. I bet
she might. Brad in lost wages, right, Glad, Right, It's
glad to be spending my work day after Thanksgiving with
my guys. What's up, Brad? Besides maybe Eagles versus Bills?
Is this one of the worst NFL weeks we've seen
this year, especially with the injuries added into the equation?
(21:42):
What do you think, Arenie, one of the worst injury
are one of the worst weekends we've got. Not very polarizing,
is it.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean you mentioned how bad the games were today,
and then when you start looking at the schedule, there's
a few intriguing games, but there's a lot of dog
games and a lot of games that people won't have
interest in, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And then one more. Joe Douglas is terrible. He had
Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson fall into his lap. He
whipped on Wilson, Let Rogers put his terrible offense together
and let the O line go to hell. Joe Douglas
should be fired, not Robert Salad. That's from Paul Well.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I believe Sala was gonna get fired now, I mean
I've done a one eighty on it from earlier in
the like a couple of weeks ago, I should say
I didn't. I didn't think he was really fighting for
his job because of the injury they had a quarterback.
Now it's a complete the bacle. I mean, no matter
who they put out their quarterback, it's a complete mess.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, it's it's not good. I'm trying to think of
the easiest way to put it. But you know, it's
like the Broncos for the longest time, every single preseason,
it was this roster man, this broster the Broncos that
put together. If they get the quarterback situation figured out,
look out, well, then they get Russell Wilson and they're terrible.
They fired Nathaniel Hackett, who might just be an awful coach.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Would Harbard be a good coach from the Jets.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, but I don't think he could be a good
coach with Aaron Rodgers Rogers. But and again there's been
there's been relationships that I didn't think would work that
ended up panning out. I didn't think John Gruden and
Derek Carr would get along and they were cooking before
John Gruden got booted from the league. I mean, look
how Belichick is in Brady. I mean, at least of
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their personalities. You could imagine them getting along and it worked.
Arians and Brady I never thought would work out. And
they won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
To that, And it's only for a year, and then
you can go implement his own quarterback. You know, it's
like how to get in a one year mulligan before
you start putting things in your own space.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
But which job would you want right now? Would you
want to go to Chicago pick your quarterback? And maybe
you know, the Panthers are terrible. I don't see them
winning another game this year. In fact, I still don't
know how they won one. But you at least get
that top pick so you can pick your quarterback. And
then you turn around and you're probably gonna be with
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your own pick, what the very worst, top five? Top seven? Maybe?
So would you rather have two picks in the top
seven and be able to build something in Chicago or
would you rather take over with the New York Jets
and have Aaron Rodgers for a year.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Look, there's no doubt Chicago is intriguing and he has
the whole Midwest, and he's got that thing going for you,
and certainly a winnable division when you have the Lions
on top. But then again, you take look at the Jets,
it's New York. If the Buffalo Bills are crumbling and
the Patriots already crumbled, only team you gotta beat out
is the Dolphins, and who knows how long they'll be
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able to stay on top.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I mean, both have a lot of pros and cons
to it. To be honest, Well, I think I agree
with who is in Matt Verderem, who said earlier he
thinks the Bears. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I said the Bears last time last Sunday when we
were on And I don't think you agreed with me
on that.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, no, no, I don't disagree. I kind of want
him in Vegas if it's not gonna be Antonio Pierce. Right,
But I'll add this, unlike last year, all right, he
wasn't really in the mix last year, unlike two years ago. Uh,
I guess he wasn't the mix last year, right? He
was mentioned for Denver? What about the Patriots? Unlike these
last three years, aren't he? I think he's gonna have
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his choice of jobs. Oh yeah, yeah, I really do,
I really. I know you keep trying to get Bill
Belichick out of New England, but he's done. He's not coming.
His hard feeling that if they can get Caleb Williams,
he might come back. All right, Hey, when we come back,
we'll hit these Roman numerals plus more of your tweets.
But first, Steve de Seger comes rolling into the tire
rack dot Com studios one final time with us tonight.
What's going on, Steve?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
You guys were talking about the no Turkey leg in
the postgame interview on Thanksgiving. On fucks Apparently the company
is giving a charitable donation on Jordan Love's behalf.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
That was the deal.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
But the fans saw earlier in the broadcast greg Olsen
in the booth digging into one of those turducans, and they.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Said he stole Jordan Lutton.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
He did yesterday Posted on Twitter by Greg Olsen, Fox
Analyst Public Service announcement. I did not capital letat Jordan
loves to ducking up on the press box.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That's why what I saw on Twitter, Steve, that.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
One always meant for the booth end quote.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
By the way, did you like the halftime shows. I
like Dollie. I thought DOLLI was okay.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Yeah, the Detroit halftime show was not getting good reviews.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Let's say, guys, and the one in Seattle, they just
went to a commercial. I don't even know what it was.
It was a commercial break.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
It was just the absence of the neon uniforms were
giving us all a break. That was kind of a
show of its own self. And then today, with no
such big thing at stake or big halftime on the
online only game, the Miami Dolphins ripped the Jets thirty
four to thirteen in New Jersey. AP posted a list
of NFL teams in the last thirty seasons like the Jets,
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who've had only ten touchdowns from scrimmage in their first
eleven games. That ties a few other teams, including the
Raiders with JaMarcus Russell about fifteen years ago. That's how
bad the Jets offense has been, and was starting quarterback
two Boyle in there. Today, they barely scored well. When
they finally did get the pick six, they missed the
extra point kicks. He got a late touchdown pass, so
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thirty four to thirteen Dolphins. The final Boyle was sacked
seven times, and the Jets going into this week ranked
thirtieth in the league in total offense, thirtieth in passing,
thirtieth in points per game out of thirty two teams,
And so today the Jets on the first eight drives
just seven first downs for the game only one hundred
and fifty nine total yards. Dolphins running back Devon ah
(27:28):
Chan was out with the knee injury. Miami linebacker Jalen
Phillips left with an achilles injury. Raheem Moster with a
couple of fourth quarter touchdowns. Washington fired defensive coordinator Jack
del Rio. The Patriots, at two and eight, declined to
name a starting quarterback for Sunday's game at the Giants,
who are three and.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Eight, because they all the full of them.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I think Mac Jones let out, yeah, I think I'm starting.
I think it looks that way, and then oh, we'll see, yeah,
I don't know. Also on a bye last week with
the Saints and Falcons, so it should be quarterback Derek
Carr against quarterback Desmond Ritter of Atlanta this week, and
Taylor Heineke not practicing fully this week with the bad
ham string. Saints corner Marshaun Lattimore with an ankle injury
(28:10):
has been ruled out for Sunday. Giants kicker Randy Bullock
was officially signed to the active roster. Cade York to
the practice squad. Bengals wide receiver t Higgins with the
bad hamstring will be out again Sunday's game against the Steelers'
chance of rain in Cincinnati, Pittsburgh safety Minka Fitzpatrick still out.
Brown's wide receiver Marquise Goodwin with a concussion out for
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Sunday at Denver and Cleveland corner Denzel Ward with a
shoulder injury was ruled out. Panthers are one to nine.
Carolina tight end Hayden Hurst and concussion protocol was ruled
out for Sunday at the Titans. Colt center Ryan Kelly
with a concussion ruled out for Sunday against the Bucks.
Tampa Bay linebacker Levonte David out with a groin injury
Raiders Sunday against Kansas City. Max Crosby defensive end with
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a knee injury mispracticed the third straight day. Listed as
doubtful for Sunday night at the Chargers. Ravens wide receiver
Odell Beckham with a shoulder injury is questionable. Wide receiver
Za Flowers with a hip injury listed is questionable. He
says he will play Monday night Vikings hosts the Bears.
Wide receiver Justin Jefferson limited in practice again with the
(29:13):
bad hamstring. The college football Number six Oregon at home,
led fourteen to seven just before halftime and beat up
rival Oregon State thirty one to seven. Next Friday Pac
twelve title game in Las Vegas, Oregon against Washington and Yes.
According to multiple reports, Oregon State coach Jonathan Smith and
Alum There, former star quarterback There has emerged as the
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top target for the vacant Michigan State job. He says
no decision has been made. Number seven Texas led Texas
Tech ten to seven after the first quarter fifty seven
seven the final. Bert Auburn five of five on field goals.
Always thought it was a great name for a Longhorns
kicker because it's kind of like burnt orange. Almost Bert
(29:56):
Auburn is the man's name. Texas will be in the
Big twelve final, maybe against Oklahoma State. How about Number
nine Missouri. This year they led at Arkansas forty one
to nothing in the third quarter today Arkansas with five
fumbles forty eight to fourteen the final and another good
game for Cody Schrader of MISSOO twenty seven carries, two
hundred and seventeen yards and a touchdown. Penn State's defense
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with seven sacks Tonight in Detroit, whipping Michigan State forty
two to nothing. Penn State ranked eleventh. Michigan State two
and seven in conference. Tonight Spartans with five first downs
and ten punts sixty eight yards net for the game.
Penn State had five hundred eighty six yards. Wins for Oklahoma,
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Iowa and Tulane. Boise State and Utah State got wins.
Utah State in double overtime at New Mexico. Tomorrow, Ohio
State at Michigan noon Eastern time. As for the two
late games in the NBA, New Orleans win was one
sixteen to one oh six at the Clippers. The last
shot did not count. Golden State got thirty five points
from Steph Curry, who else beat San Antonio one eighteen
(31:03):
one twelve. Spurs have lost eleven in a row. Milwaukee
over Washington, Wizards have lost eight in a row. Indiana
whip Detroit Pistons have lost thirteen in a row. Phoenix
won at six straight and Kevin Durant was out with
a sore foot. Devin Booker got forty points in an
easy win at Memphis, and Orlando beat Boston one thirteen
ninety six. The Orlando Magic have won six in a row.
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The Celtics are first in the East, but they're just
one game ahead of Orlando.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Back to you, Oh, by the way, did you get
my email on Tuesday?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
The saga? H No, but go ahead. I sent an email.
I gave you Sunday off, so enjoy your weekend. All right.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
We're not working Sunday, are you?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Yeah, I'm working Sundays, just not in this room.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I gave it to you off, so that way to
be thankful.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
If I'm still working, though, how did you give me
Sunday off?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Well, you don't have to come in and do it. Well, yeah,
Sunday off, and you set the schedule. When is he working, Arnie,
He's not working Sunday.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
I'm still working for iHeartRadio on Sunday, just.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Not in this room. Yeah, but you're not doing updates?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
No, no statistics the.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Boss man, Oh, big deal. You go to a game base.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
So what You're gonna go to the Charger game and
sit there, eat hot dogs and drink a beer nuts working.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Yeah, such thing.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
What do you?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
You don't do anything? Oh there, watch the game.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Wait a minute, We've just listened to you for four
hours and you're accusing.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Other people of not doing anything, doing anything. Fantastic? All right,
Steve Have on Sunday night, Hey, a couple of quick
tweets and then I've got them. I've got to hit
the Roman numerals. You put so much work into sitting
this I did. I run down to me at seven
am this morning. Yes, I want to make sure that
I hit them all for the show tonight. But this
(32:48):
was i had News said, all right, I got an
answer to your NBA quiz question, which, as I said,
because you're just like murdering Greg Popovich. He's a terrible coach.
Now he's doing a great job this year. Though, No, okay,
what coach? What coach didn't have superstars? And was you know,
still a great coach? You tried to bring up the
(33:08):
box who had johannas I? I do actually kind of
think this is an interesting one. He had News says,
what about Larry Brown's Detroit Pistons versus the Kobe Bryant Lakers.
That's a decent one. But they still had Ben Wallace,
who's a Hall of Famer. They had a Rip Hamilton.
They oh gosh, who am I? Who am I leaving out?
That was on that Pistons team. I think it was
(33:30):
their second leading score. I'm really approving my point when
I can remember Miami Chounceley Billups. Thank you Chauncey Billups. Yeah.
So I mean that they had some dudes on that team.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Miami made it to the finals with just Jimmy Butler,
nobody else on that damn team.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
But you kill el Eric Spolster too. You think he sucks?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, I don't think he sucks. But he's did a
good job that year, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
That was last year.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, well, he's done a great job overall all the championships.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
So is that the one guy that you would say,
even though what was he like a couple of years
after Lebron and Chris Posh and Dwayne Wade, well, Lebron
and Chris Bosh in this case, weren't there.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
They what he do?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Before you got Jimmy Butler after he lost the Stars.
I just I feel like that you do. You want
to jump on a guy when he doesn't have Like
Phil Jackson, you were crushing him when he was with
the Knicks. Yeah, it's it's a mix. You gotta have
great players, you got to be a good coach.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Papovich got the next Michael Jordan right of that one?
By ya, I'm a guy you wouldn't want him on
your team?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Of course I want a eleven game losing streak. Why
wouldn't I? No, you wouldn't want Victor Wembin. Well, you're
the Knicks. You're eventually gonna have one this year. So
you're telling me you don't want Victor Wembin.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Do you make no sense to me? Sometimes you want
to sit here and crush a guy and tell him
how terrible he is. I'm like, well, you take him
on your team? Like, well, yeah, and you would take
Papovitch as your coach and all.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I would never never, zero, never would take never. I
would stop being a Knicks fan before, yes, and then
you would be right back on board when they won
four games in a row. You're like, this team, it
was funny whenever you brought up you know, what do
you want to talk about today? I saw this one
(35:18):
Kinterer at Keaton wrote, I guess your Dolphins are winning
the Super Bowl this week.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I just saw this week on it and it cracked
me up because when they don't play well, you usually
have them out of the Super Bowl. But since they won,
even though they didn't play well, are they still in
the Super Bowl? Yeah? A matter of fact, my pick
is looking golden of the Do you believe the Cowboys
over the of the Eagles or the Niners? Right, it's possible,
(35:44):
It's possible. Come on, what was your pick? There's a
major there's a major difference between golden and it's like, oh,
it's possible. What was the Niners and the Chiefs? The Niners?
That's still that's still a good one too. That's a
good one. Yeah. I mean I didn't freak out because
it wasn't on the list in the studio like you did,
so I might have changed it for or five times,
(36:05):
but I will say you initially wanted to put the
Saints in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
For Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. I
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