December 2, 2023 • 37 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon debate if there is any chance Iowa can pull the upset of the century against Michigan. And Washington improves to 13-0 after defeating Oregon 34-31 in the Pac-12 title game. That is the most wins in a season in Washington history!
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 3 (00:53):
Should be well.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The PAC twelve has fourteen minutes left until it is
no more, and Oregon leads the Huskies twenty four to
twenty Washington dodging a bullet.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
In the last couple of minutes, Michael Penick Junior was
hit while throwing. The ball was recovered by the Ducks. However,
upon review, it was ruled that Pennix's arm was going forward,
so Washington retained possession deep in Oregon territory and they
now have it first and goal. Now, this was a
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really difficult play because on the first glance you see it,
you would say, okay, well his arm is going forward.
Then you see the replanets, Oh, boy, is his arm going.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
He's got that big ass wind up right, So had
he started moving it forward? So now we're going into
subruner film. It's going frame by frame.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And then he kind of stops and it doesn't look
like his arm hits that natural motion, like almost like
his his wrist cocks back because maybe he's get ready
to throw it out of bounds and it gets knocked
forward and they go back on review. And this surprising
part not that I couldn't see it being a play
that was overturned, but boy, there was evidence that call
in the field was a fumble. And you're saying, oh,
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there was.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Evidence to give you that that the defender got got
the hand on the ball before it starts going forward.
But you gets kind of a shot put kind of
thing that still follows through where it lands. I don't
know how you over turn it, like I And if
you'd called it the other way, I'm like, I don't
see how you overturn that. So got of one of
those difficult spots. But hey, all good things for the
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Huskies in this turn of events.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But you know what, I think it's fine because now
we're even because you had that really bad call, the
pass interference that gave Oregon the touchdown in the first
if that was just an awful, awful, awful call, nobody
could even defend that. And so now you had this
call where okay, we're gonna give the ball back to Washington.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
All right, that's fair. How do you overturn it? Hey,
we gave you that p I call in the first Okay,
that's fair. All right, that's fair. I get it. Okay,
So that's fair. So now we're worth even. That's fair.
All right, everything's back to even.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
As Dylan Johnson does does the referees good and makes
you know, cheaters proof is that what they say, ball
don't live.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Dylan Johnson in the end zone from a yard out
on third and goal. So now the Huskies have the
lead twenty six to twenty four extra point pending in
the final game in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Al right, over under sixty five and a half. Sure,
it was nine or nine and a half. I think
nine and a half in most books before it went off,
So a lot of chaos still to come. Twelve to
twenty three, remaining extra point is up and good make
it twenty seven to twenty four. Yeah, there's at least
another three touchdowns this game. I'm gonna say three more touchdowns.
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But it's what's great is they go down spectacularly.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Right, I mean we watched a lot of the PAC
twelve squads that started well, Colorado limb to the end
of the season, right because it was wow, look at
the Pac twelve. You don't know, man, I think they
limped and they collapsed and someone had to drag them.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
If we were dragged.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Over the finish line, hey, sports person of the Year,
sports Person of the Year Deon Sanders.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah, yes, Mike, you brought up sports books. If there
was this one sports book I forget where it was
that had an organ in the blowout.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Frostburg.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
If you are betting based on my predictions and you're
losing money, I'm sorry, But if you would bet everything
I would say, you'd be up, So I don't know
what to say.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I'd be up, you'd be up.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yes, my upset under the four, five, thirteen, and nine.
This year, every year I'm over five hundred with my
upset specials. You would be making money.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I know what. I don't think you counsel again, you
don't count. It's a fuzzy man. I don't think you'll
couch so good that Paulie. I think you will. You
can't think you count. You gout the way.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
But Washington on top of Oregon twenty seven to twenty
four or twelve twenty three to go in the fourth quarter,
Oregon can still win in a route.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
They just have to get the next three touchdowns. There
are three touchdowns left. They get the next three of them.
Everything is fine.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Because look in this day and age, you know what
constitutes are.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Route you cover the number. So we'll keep you updated
on this game.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Is We had a nice little look into championship Saturday,
I mean, the final night of the PAC twelve and
being on special night, man, I feel weird. But a
couple of games tomorrow to get into here over the
next few minutes, and if you're looking for an upset tomorrow.
It seems like the first first glance, it seems like
it's pretty easy. Uh Florida State now maybe without.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Their backup court. Yeah, no, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So I look, I liked Louisville anyway in this game
over Florida State and Florida State doing everybody a favorite
going listen, We're just gonna lose this game, so nobody
can just get mad that we're in the championship and
we don't have a quarterback. But Roadamaker is now doubt
full for the AC title game. He got hurt last
week against Florida. Yeah, it's pretty easy, but man, I
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like Louisville to win this game, not because I don't
think Florida State is good, but at some point you're
gonna you're gonna pay for not being able to move
the football. And Florida State, even with Jordan Travis, struggled
against teams that they shouldn't struggle against. It's been a
very difficult season, sure, navigating.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
A down year in the ACC.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's not like the ACC has been great, right, The
ACC has had a pretty down year, and the best
games that Florida State's had were Week one against LSU.
Where if they play that game now, LSU wins by
three touchdowns and they beat Duke Who's seven and five?
Those are Florida State's wins and they have coaching Chaine.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Again, I don't think that game led to the coach
that was it, But yes, that was the one that
stood out right there. But Florida State has not been great. Look,
they've done what you asked them. We won all our games.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Here we are.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
But now you had a backup quarterback play against a
really bad Florida team last year last week and you
were just able to escape. Louisville is the best team
you'll play all year. Their defensive line is terrific. And
when now you're you're gonna wind up with your third
quarterback getting in here trying to make plays. Yeah, it
seemed gutsy at the time, but now when you're talking
about getting to another quarterback, I expect I no longer
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expect the I expect Louisville to win this game.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I mean to be fair to Florida, just not to
dismiss them categorically. Right, Obviously they went on a horrendous
losing streak there, but they were in a couple of
those games where it's an ot loss to Arkansas, a
narrow loss at Missouri. Yeah, Georgia did what Georgia does
to teams. Okay, done, asked and answered, and so they came.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And whenever we.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Do the you throw the records out right, all those
those rival matchups as it were. But yeah, I haven't
find it hard to believe you're gonna get a top
notch effort with a quarterback who is gonna get very
few reps. Does this seems this is kind of a
new wrinkle to this story, right, This wasn't a hey,
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he probably isn't gonna go and you got a full
week and even then you're still going Wow, conference title game.
So Louisville's played, well, we watched him a bunch here
because well night games. It's the glory of being in
the studio and having all the monitors, Like what other
football could we find? There's Louisville and we get to
see it play live and the living color. But yeah,
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go into the third string guy, I mean, unless you're
gonna get some kind of miracle thing. And I know
there are some outliers in our college football and NFL histories.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Usually doesn't end too well now.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And even even if Fronemaker plays, it's not like he
was great last week. They struggled so much and Louisville
is the best team they've played all See, Louisville is
playing the best the end of the year. Really, it's
not an upset anymore. And it does the College Football
play Off a solid going. Okay, great, we don't have
to we don't have to get look at people hating
us because we're gonna take one loss Texas over undefeation Florida.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
But I think the narrative is already cooked in. You
know that even if they won. Look, unless they go
and absolutely obliterate Louisville, like say they'd come in and
they win by three scores, then all right, there's this
question that has to happen. But otherwise, I think everybody
throughout the week, anybody that follows college football, anybody that
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is a a pundit and expert, an analyst, and and
tangentially associated with reviewing the game and rolling into this
championship weekend was already bracing for all right, which team
jumps them?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Even if they won?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, right, even if they you know, covered what was
a two and a half point spread and everything else.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was can they really play?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Because I saw the advanced numbers, they were at least
a twelve point underdog against any of the current top
five right that the team and including the wrap around
when you when you had the Oregon Ducks, that it
was you're a double digit underdog under the best circumstances.
So it's very easy to just say, you know what,
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nice try, you were close, but you're getting jumped because
this makes for a better product. Now next year we
expand the playoffs and folks can bemoan it all they want. Well,
we don't have those same arguments because all of your
teams that are truly deserving get in. If you guys
want to go and slap fight over three lost teams
over here, have at it.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
And y'a'll tell you want to watch and I joke
about Texas, but you watch about jumping Florida State. Florida
State loses this game, it opens the door for obviously
three teams, and two of them are teams that play tomorrow,
Alabama in the SEC Championship and Texas in the Big
Twelve Championship. All Alabama has to do is win. All
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Alabama has to do is win the game. Doesn't matter
how they do. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
If they kick four field goals, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
If they win and they throw four interceptions, right mill Roque,
doesn't matter, and Texas has to win big. Even if
that happens, the committee is still gonna take Alabama over Texas.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
They will still and.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
They will and it will be an absolute people will
head will explode because how do you take Alabama over Texas?
Alabama lost to Texas early in the season. And what
the CFP is gonna say, and this is gonna be
their mantra, because it's gonna be their mantra. What they'll
say if they have to exclude Florida State, it will
be their mantra. If they have to take Alabama over
Texas As, They're going to say, we are picking the
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four best teams in college.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Football right now? Who do we think are the four
best teams right now?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
That game Texas beating Alabama, that may as well have
been in twenty fifteen because Alabama is a different team now,
Texas a different team. Now you play that game, now
you get something different. That's going to be the mantra
of the CFP. Trust me you're gonna hear a lot
of that because someone's getting left out and it's gonna
be pissed, and it's gonna be a heritage, blue blood
team that would in normal years spark change the next
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year for a bigger playoff. But we're getting the bigger
playoff next year. But that's gonna be the mantra. Our
job is not to say who's got the best resume.
Our job is that who is the best. Who are
the four best teams in college football right now? And
in our estimation, Alabama is better than Texas.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We Alabama wins the SEC title, and that's it, right, game,
set and match. Even if you don't believe the SEC
top to bottom, like you want to argue about best conferences,
that's where you go through.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
All right, give me the rankings.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Of how the computer spits that out SEC versus Big
ten versus Big twelve versus whatever else, and then you
can fight that. If you want to go and debate that,
you can have all the fun you want. But if
we're just talking about point blank, you're asked, what's the conference,
you're gonna get Big ten guys that are gonna get
really haughty about all of those teams at the top,
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and so they're gonna say, what about Iowa. It's like
all you need is one more point, It's.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
All that matters.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But the SEC is always the de facto they are
the best conference.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Brainwashed. Yeah, that's imagine.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
That's where we're at.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So if they win the conference, they're in.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, and just think about how the flip side from
If you're talking about two NFL teams at at here's
one point. One NFL team is nine and three, another
team is nine and three, and one team beat the
other in Week two? Are we sitting here saying, oh, no,
the team that won that game is better? No, who's
playing better now? Who's the best team right now? Just
because they won that game eight weeks ago doesn't mean
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they're still that team. Trust me. Teams are going to
get left out. And that's all they're gonna say. Best
teams right now? Who doesn't matter what they did before?
Who are the four best teams right now?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I want them to say it in just go bold.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
What is the best TV product we can give you?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
You mean best team? No?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
No, no, no, what's the best TV product we can give you?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
This holiday? Holiday?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Holiday?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Colo will play USC and then we get to see
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the Ducks a few moments ago. They're driving and then
they throw three They make three plays and throw three
balls at the line of scrimmage. They wind up not
getting the first down and they punt. It's like they
got unaggressive there for a couple of minutes, and now
Washington has the football in their own territory nine minutes
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left and they lead the Ducks twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
We'll have more on this game coming.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Up next as well as we talked about the upset
that might not be an upset We're going to see
tomorrow in Louisville. Is the door open for Michigan to
actually lose the Big Ten championship. We'll tell you how
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That's coming up next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
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Progressive dot com. Well, Washington may have just booked their
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ticket into the college football playoff. Third and goal from
the one touchdown pass to Quinton Moore who sneaks it
in over the pylon a pylon, and now Washington will
be kicking the extra point for a ten point lead
over the Ducks. We're gonna to touchdown and an on
sidekick and a whole lot of luck to be able
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to come back and win this game. And here they
are about to make it thirty four to twenty four,
under three minutes left to go. And boy, I tell you,
I know we're gonna talk about the pennis play that
got overruled, that was a fumble on the field. But
I'll tell you, in a game where it's back and
forth and everybody's scoring every time, they get the football.
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Some of the play calls on that last Oregon drive
were just really puzzling, and they wound up with a
three and out and Washington of course gets it and
goes down. Look, they've been a step ahead of Oregon's
defense all night. They can't get to Michael Pennix Junior,
and he gets rid of the ball just enough time
to get it to a receiver, and they all have
space on the Oregon defenders, and they have just been
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one step ahead all night. And now here they are
down the field in the touchdown, and basically you can
book their ticket to the college football playoff.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
This drive twelve plays, eighty two yard, six minute, twenty seconds.
I just kept going, tick tick tick, dick, dick. It
looks like they're gonna get a stop. No defense rises
up on the second down play. They tried to get
a little cute getting out of the backfield with the
running back, no biting. You know, everybody stayed home, stayed
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on their man. But then on third down, tight end's
able to leak out. And that's the end of that
Washington touchdown drive. Big effort, big response to the early
second half charge, and one of the big questions down
the stretch, was all right, how quick are these possessions?
Are you going to be able to bleed the clock?
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While askedon answered Washington with a hell of a job
on this drive taken inside of three minutes.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So it's a ten point lead. Bo Nicks, if he
wants to win the Heisman Trophy, needs a touchdown on
side kick touchdown that he wins the Heisman Trophy. Yeah,
I got to see what the the current live odds
are on that Nielsy iss your Heisman Trophy winner. So
we'll have more on this game coming up again. Ten minute,
ten point lead, under three minutes left to go for Oregon. Now,
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we talked about the likelihood of a Louisville win over
Florida State tomorrow, especially now Florida State, you know, could
be down to their third quarterback, which would just be
absolutely abysmal. Roademaker is in doubt for the game to
orow game time decision after he got hurt last week.
Louisville likely is going to win. That's going to open
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things up Michigan and Iowa. Michigan's a twenty two point
favorite in this game, and they have everything. This is
the best team Jim Harbaugh's ever had. This is the
best team they've ever had. They should steamroll Iowa and
win this game. But how does Michigan lose? Is the
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door open to a Michigan loss a little bit more
than you think, because I can see a path to a.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Win for Iowa in this game.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I mean, look, Iowa's offense is not only abysmal, but
you're also going up against one of the top three
defenses in all of college football. You're not You're not
gonna move the football at all. So how does IOW
win this game? This should be a game where, hey,
it's close early, it's maybe a three to nothing game
for a while. Then maybe it's six nothing or it's
six ' three or it's nine to six, but then oh,
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a touchdown and a touchdown, and said Michigan winds up
winning like twenty two to three.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
But I will tell you this because this is this
is what makes me nervous and what keeps me up
if I'm a Michigan fan, is that you know Iowa's
defense is going to shut down the running game everything
they can to shut down Corum and Donovan Edwards. Right,
this is this is their bread and butter. They're gonna
make JJ McCarthy beat them. And here's the thing. JJ
McCarthy is a little overrated. JJ McCarthy is not the player,
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the Heisman Trophy candidate that people thought he was middle
of the season. In the last four weeks, McCarthy's accounted
for one touchdown. One touchdown touchdown pass against Ohio State
last week.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Your quarterback has accounted for one touchdown in the last
four games. And if you want to say, well, he
was dinged up, you don't know how hurt he is. No,
I get that, but he's still playing tomorrow. He's still
your quarterback tomorrow. On the field, he has not played well.
And I can see McCarthy because he's done this. He
has thrown many dangerous passes the last few weeks. He
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has been in and out of trouble. He's one of
those boy. I'll tell you there's two runners on every ending,
but he's finding a way to pitch out of it.
He has made some dangerous throws the last few weeks
and gotten away with it. Michigan has if he turns
the ball over and it's a crooked number and it's
three Michigan turnovers versus none for Iowa, and it's either
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defensive touchdowns or Iowa is set up deep in Michigan
territory and they get easy points off it. Because look,
they're not gonna drive seventy yards down the field. They're
not that good against Michigan's defense. But you're set up
with short fields and McCarthy tries to do too much.
Because I can see McCarthy try to do too much,
because he's done that a lot of times over the
past couple of years. That's my path to victory for Iowa.
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I'm telling my team if I'm Kirk Ferrence, I'm saying, Okay, first,
I'm not going to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I know you just I know people haven't asked them.
I just want to let you know I'm staying, guys,
I'm staying out state.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
But it's get the football, shut them down, make McCarthy
do it himself, and he's gonna give us the football
and we're gonna get it. We're gonna make plays, we're
gonna be opportunistic, and it's gonna be a perfect game
on defense to do it. But we've seen Iowa play
terrific on defense. You don't know what Michigan's gonna be like,
getting that bounce coming off of last week against Ohio State,
and now it's going to be how do we win
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this game tomorrow. That's your path to victory. If McCarthy
is trying to do too much dangerous throws, he's gonna
turn it over. He's gonna get it to Iowa. And
this is where Iowa can win this game. Thirteen to ten,
thirteen to nine, something like that. That's the path. There's
no other way they can win, all right. So there's
the downside is there's no other way they can win
unless they get turnovers like that. But they can get
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them because they're gonna make McCarthy do it. He's not
that good hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
It's gonna be about turnovers, short fields, and special teams.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Right.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
One of the things that Iowa's had as well is
they've had tremendous work from their return game. So there's
gonna be an opportunity to create field position advantage. And
then look, this is where you have Henry Winkler's famous binder.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
From The Water Boy.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You go figure out whatever plays you've drawn up in
a fever induced scheme.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
The quarterback fakes. No, he pretends to fake moonshine.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Whatever your inspiration is, you go find the craziest ass
thing that you could possibly do. And remember they've also
been operating without their original quarterback for.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
A long time as well.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Right, But you know you're looking at that's gonna that's
gonna be what it takes. It's gonna be for perfect football,
I e. Mistake free football from your offense. But the
defense and specialty teams, they don't have to win those.
They have to dominate those two components here. And for
you know, coach friends, I mean this is he's even
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laughed about it right during his press conferences over the
course of the week. You know about the point spread
and what it might take. That's why we still play
the games like the potential for kaos still remains. And
I'm a big ten apologist to make no bones about it. Right,
My Northwestern diplomas there somewhere, But it's the idea for
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the conference would be great for Michigan. For me selfishly,
as a guy who likes chaos in between the white lines,
I hope to hell everything you outlined comes to fruition
because you know what happens why.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Was Ohio State makes it back into the playoffs? You want?
Do you want?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That happened in my house? You only live in a
Michigan house. Not only that, I'm rooting for that. We
have friends in town this weekend. Some of our best friends.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I don't know that who.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Also went to Michigan's I'm out.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Come and you don't have friends.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
No, it's well, it's.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Friends that I picked up because when I started dating
Pan and one of her best friends from college, we
just went to visit them and oh yeah, yeah they grow.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, Aaron and Dave are great.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
We went to visit them in Arizona last week for Thanksgiving.
Now it's like a home and home. We visited them
thanks Now the heres are going to see Mama Me
and tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
You're officiating their second.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I know like four four groups of people going to
see that tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah yeah, so's going. So they came in to see it.
So it's it's a home and home. But she went
to Michigan and she's as big a Michigan fan, except
she's not like my wife. If my wife gets mad
at Michigan, she starts cursing and getting really mad.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Her friend erin will leave the room to go read.
Like that's it. She's like, oh, I'm so madaged to
leave and go read. What does she go read? Read?
A book?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (25:46):
No, no, no, like a novel. She'll go read. She's going
back into her Jane Austin. I'm usual get football's in trouble.
I'm gonna go read by Nora Roberts novel. No, she
goes and she reads in the other room, like you
know how much I love to read. There's no, there's
no way. I'm so upset at my team. I would
leave and go. No, I would just play on my iPad,
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or I'd play on my kindle or something. I go,
I'm so mad about this. Or he would turn the
game off, Like, dude, you can I was with Aaron
and Dave. You can ask them, did I did I
leave the game at.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
A half time and say I don't And I yelled Domino,
mother blanker. It's just like I put it down and
slammed Domino. Uh no.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But look, that's what makes me nervous if I'm a
Michigan fan. That really, that's what is JJ McCarthy really
gonna be enough because I was gonna make him win
this game, and I'm telling you, I just don't know.
He's He's a good enough quarterback and he's made plays.
Is he as dynamic as they thought he would be
as a freshman, He's not. He still struggles a little
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bit more with with being able to move the team
and and be that dynamic playmaker. In the last four games,
I mean, he has just not been good. I mean
you had a game where against Penn State where it's like,
is he dinged up?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah? But really, really you only throw the ball a toe.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Off the upset Phil Parker gets a statue outside of Kenney.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And then maybe Kirk Ferance goes to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Maybe finally fifteen years Kirk ference, I'm going to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Guys, I've done it now I'm going I'm heading to
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I don't know. My head coach from the Northwestern football
team showed up and at the Northwestern basketball game tonight said,
you know, Gary Barnett promised going to Pasadena.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
We're going to the playoffs. Like there you go, coach Brawn.
So we got an update coming your way in a minute.
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Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. So things get
a little interesting between Washington and Oregon.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Bo Nicks.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
A long touchdown pass has cut Washington's lead to thirty
four to thirty one, just over two minutes left to go.
The on side kick by Oregon goes out of bounds
offul Washington players. So the Huskies have the football still
over two minutes left and Oregon's got all three timeouts.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Its great chaotic on side kid timeouts, mishandled, and finally
you just slap it out of bows. All right, I'm
done with this.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
On the night the Pac twelve dies, this is how
they're going out.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Did you know?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Live odds?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Bo Nicks is once again the second behind Jade Daniels.
J Daniels is minus three hundred bon Nicks and plus
two twenty.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Now, let me get you caught up on where we're
sitting right now, because it has been insanity in the
last ninety seconds. Face with a third and five, and
you'd think this is the season. Washington's able to pick
up the first down. They run an outplay at the
sticks and it's a first down, you know, death taxes
and the dB playing too far off the cushion that
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the first down, well, they kind they kind of they
kind of confused of it because he had the one
wide out run of clearout to kind of confuse and
force him to be a little hesitant, and you saw
the wide the wide receiver kind of cut over. So
first down, you think the game is over. There's just
under two minutes left to go. Oregon's got one time
out left. Washington runs the football flags come flying out
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right away, holding on Washington, so it's a ten yard
penalty for the Huskies. More importantly, Oregon does not use
their last time out because you watch the play they
had to play to get the first down, the wide
receiver had to go out of bounds because that was
where the play. So Oregon now had one time out
left with Washington with the football facing second down. Washington
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just ran the football into the middle of the field
for no gain. So now if Washington does not get
a first down, did second and seventeen, Oregon could still
see the football here a little bit, They could still
get a little bit of time left here, potentially a little.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Bit, little bit.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Can we see some gross clock mismanagement like we have
in so many situations and games sitting at this desk
through the years, Man.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
This is really something. So Washington again trying to hold
on thirty four to thirty one. They have the football
second and seventeen. It's gonna wind up being a third
and about ten, and there is a buck forty left
to go. So Oregon's still not dead quite yet. The
death of the PAC twelve ten It's off my cart
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coming up next? Are we talking about an unbelievable Oregon
comeback in overtime or are we talking about the Washington
Huskies moving on to the College Football playoff?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
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Speaker 1 (31:02):
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Speaker 1 (31:16):
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the Washington Huskies have defeated the Oregon Ducks. They are
headed to the College Football Playoff thirty four thirty one.
They clinch the game on their final possession and just
because I want to talk about this for a couple seconds,
because I really I don't understand this, you know now
watching the final play, that really clit for the Huskies.
(32:01):
Right they was facing third and five, there was less
than two minutes left to go. If the Huskies don't
get the first down, bow Nicks has a chance to
get down the field for at least a touchdown for
at least a field goal, if not a touchdown, to
win the game.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
And Michael Pennix.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Junior throws just a down and out to Jalen McMillan,
who catches the ball at the stick two steps goes
out of bounds, first down Washington.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
And that effectively ends the game.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
They were able to extend it a little bit more
because Washington had a penalty on first down, but a
couple of runs by the Huskies end the game and
they win it thirty four to thirty one. I never
understand this. This is the game, this is the season,
this is everything. I never understand on plays where the
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wide receiver has to gain and has to catch the
ball at the yardstick, got to catch the ball. If
it's third and five, you can't throw the ball four yards.
The wide receiver has to catch the ball sure, five
yards down on the field right. Can't do it, can't
do it fourt No, gotta catch it five yards downfield.
If you're the dB, you gotta be right on him right,
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And there's no way you can't be on him. When
you're talking about five yards. He's running right at you.
If he runs past you, and they throw it deep,
they throw it deep. But chances are, when you need
that kind of yardage for a first down, you're throwing
it to the stick. Why because the other team is
bringing pressure. There's not gonna be a long time to
make a throw like that. And if you get beat deep,
you get beat deep. But don't give him the ball
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at the yard marker. And all McMillan does his run,
he's almost a full yard past the marker and he
turns and the ball is on the money and the
defensive back is two steps away from him, and it's
an easy first down for Washington. I don't understand. And
this is fifty years of watching football now, especially college football,
where hey, when you need this, why is the dB
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when you're in man coverage? Why are you so far
off the guy? You know where he's got to get
you for the first down. This is the season, this
is your play, this is everything beyond the guy. If
he beats you deep, well, okay, you know what they
ran in that play. I had to sell out to
catch that ball at the yard stick. I had to
do it. But again, I'm standing there and I'm not
I'm kind of frozen.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
But you know, you gotta be on him.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I'm not saying because it looked like that he was
waiting to see which way he's gonna cut. Well, I'm sorry,
you got to be right on him and follow him
when he's cut that way. Yeah, I get maybe he
could go to the middle of the field, but you
gotta be right. You got to know what kind of
what he's brushing his teeth with. That's how close you
got to be with him before, so when he cuts
one way or the other, you can get a hand
in front of the ball.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
You got your five yard cushion as well when you
get to it. And just from that perspective, but yeah,
we watch it all the time, situational football, the cushion
that's given and it's down distance, time of game, et cetera. Right, yes,
you want to be a bit cautious and most of
the game. Yeah, you can give up that and just say,
all right, they got the short gain, they're not getting
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me over the top. You can't play that in this situation.
That's the down that determ means a win and a
loss when you're able to bleed clock. And and yes,
to your point, the penalty did create a little bit
of chaos, but Dylan Johnson more than up to the task.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I did like that.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
You know, they just said, all right, we're gonna use
our running game and we're gonna sledge hammer.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, we're finishing this.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
And that's exactly what they did. Because there was a
scenario whereby there was still potential for one or two
plays well.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Maybe maybe even more.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
The way that you can get up to the line
of scrimmage and keep things moving, but they kept bo
Nicks from ever seeing the football again. Credit Huskies. Credit
the game plan and execution down the stretch looking for
that little bit of cushion and took out every bit
of advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
And I told you all week long, Washington in a
close one, No, that was gonna be one thriller.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
J question about it, Washington, I wanted chaos and pack
twelve after dark.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Mike, you don't let them off the hook. No, No,
because I said Washington by actually you have the Seahawks
in a round.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
It was the Seahawks that are route changed the nickname.
And yeah, I mean all signs pointed to Oregon trending
in the right direction to a potential blowout scenario where
the offense was humming. You look at Pennix Junior, who'd
looked like a bit of a different quarterback these last
few weeks. And you know, I'll be the first to
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say it out wrong. I mean, they came out, they
played clean Jersey club. Oregon couldn't get to them some
big deep throws early in this game to build the lead,
and you had to take moral victories even on the
you know, the first possession fifteen play drive, it came
down and methodically just punched Oregon in the mouth after
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taking the ball and the opening kickoff.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Look, Washington was a step ahead of Oregon all night.
They were just it wasn't that this was a close.
This is too heavyweights all the whatever, whatever you want
to say, whatever cliches. These are two heavyweights back and forth.
But Washington was a it's a little bit better. There
are one step ahead all night, and that final play
exemplifies it. There ones because that receiver was a step
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and a half ahead of the dB and there's your
play that clinches the game. Well, you're thinking they want
to keep going for the downs because that has been
the offense right in big play and explosive plays. Here
they didn't need the explosive play any five yards. You
gave it to him. So Washington is in the playoff.
Who will join them? Coming up next, our best college
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Speaker 3 (00:53):
Should be well.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The PAC twelve has fourteen minutes left until it is
no more, and Oregon leads the Huskies twenty four to
twenty Washington dodging a bullet.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
In the last couple of minutes, Michael Penick Junior was
hit while throwing. The ball was recovered by the Ducks. However,
upon review, it was ruled that Pennix's arm was going forward,
so Washington retained possession deep in Oregon territory and they
now have it first and goal. Now, this was a
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really difficult play because on the first glance you see it,
you would say, okay, well his arm is going forward.
Then you see the replanets, Oh, boy, is his arm going.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
He's got that big ass wind up right, So had
he started moving it forward? So now we're going into
subruner film. It's going frame by frame.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And then he kind of stops and it doesn't look
like his arm hits that natural motion, like almost like
his his wrist cocks back because maybe he's get ready
to throw it out of bounds and it gets knocked
forward and they go back on review. And this surprising
part not that I couldn't see it being a play
that was overturned, but boy, there was evidence that call
in the field was a fumble. And you're saying, oh,
(02:08):
there was.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Evidence to give you that that the defender got got
the hand on the ball before it starts going forward.
But you gets kind of a shot put kind of
thing that still follows through where it lands. I don't
know how you over turn it, like I And if
you'd called it the other way, I'm like, I don't
see how you overturn that. So got of one of
those difficult spots. But hey, all good things for the
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Huskies in this turn of events.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But you know what, I think it's fine because now
we're even because you had that really bad call, the
pass interference that gave Oregon the touchdown in the first
if that was just an awful, awful, awful call, nobody
could even defend that. And so now you had this
call where okay, we're gonna give the ball back to Washington.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
All right, that's fair. How do you overturn it? Hey,
we gave you that p I call in the first Okay,
that's fair. All right, that's fair. I get it. Okay,
So that's fair. So now we're worth even. That's fair.
All right, everything's back to even.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
As Dylan Johnson does does the referees good and makes
you know, cheaters proof is that what they say, ball
don't live.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Dylan Johnson in the end zone from a yard out
on third and goal. So now the Huskies have the
lead twenty six to twenty four extra point pending in
the final game in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Al right, over under sixty five and a half. Sure,
it was nine or nine and a half. I think
nine and a half in most books before it went off,
So a lot of chaos still to come. Twelve to
twenty three, remaining extra point is up and good make
it twenty seven to twenty four. Yeah, there's at least
another three touchdowns this game. I'm gonna say three more touchdowns.
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But it's what's great is they go down spectacularly.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Right, I mean we watched a lot of the PAC
twelve squads that started well, Colorado limb to the end
of the season, right because it was wow, look at
the Pac twelve. You don't know, man, I think they
limped and they collapsed and someone had to drag them.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
If we were dragged.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Over the finish line, hey, sports person of the Year,
sports Person of the Year Deon Sanders.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah, yes, Mike, you brought up sports books. If there
was this one sports book I forget where it was
that had an organ in the blowout.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Frostburg.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
If you are betting based on my predictions and you're
losing money, I'm sorry, But if you would bet everything
I would say, you'd be up, So I don't know
what to say.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I'd be up, you'd be up.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yes, my upset under the four, five, thirteen, and nine.
This year, every year I'm over five hundred with my
upset specials. You would be making money.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I know what. I don't think you counsel again, you
don't count. It's a fuzzy man. I don't think you'll
couch so good that Paulie. I think you will. You
can't think you count. You gout the way.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
But Washington on top of Oregon twenty seven to twenty
four or twelve twenty three to go in the fourth quarter,
Oregon can still win in a route.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
They just have to get the next three touchdowns. There
are three touchdowns left. They get the next three of them.
Everything is fine.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Because look in this day and age, you know what
constitutes are.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Route you cover the number. So we'll keep you updated
on this game.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Is We had a nice little look into championship Saturday,
I mean, the final night of the PAC twelve and
being on special night, man, I feel weird. But a
couple of games tomorrow to get into here over the
next few minutes, and if you're looking for an upset tomorrow.
It seems like the first first glance, it seems like
it's pretty easy. Uh Florida State now maybe without.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Their backup court. Yeah, no, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So I look, I liked Louisville anyway in this game
over Florida State and Florida State doing everybody a favorite
going listen, We're just gonna lose this game, so nobody
can just get mad that we're in the championship and
we don't have a quarterback. But Roadamaker is now doubt
full for the AC title game. He got hurt last
week against Florida. Yeah, it's pretty easy, but man, I
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like Louisville to win this game, not because I don't
think Florida State is good, but at some point you're
gonna you're gonna pay for not being able to move
the football. And Florida State, even with Jordan Travis, struggled
against teams that they shouldn't struggle against. It's been a
very difficult season, sure, navigating.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
A down year in the ACC.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's not like the ACC has been great, right, The
ACC has had a pretty down year, and the best
games that Florida State's had were Week one against LSU.
Where if they play that game now, LSU wins by
three touchdowns and they beat Duke Who's seven and five?
Those are Florida State's wins and they have coaching Chaine.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Again, I don't think that game led to the coach
that was it, But yes, that was the one that
stood out right there. But Florida State has not been great. Look,
they've done what you asked them. We won all our games.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Here we are.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
But now you had a backup quarterback play against a
really bad Florida team last year last week and you
were just able to escape. Louisville is the best team
you'll play all year. Their defensive line is terrific. And
when now you're you're gonna wind up with your third
quarterback getting in here trying to make plays. Yeah, it
seemed gutsy at the time, but now when you're talking
about getting to another quarterback, I expect I no longer
(07:16):
expect the I expect Louisville to win this game.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I mean to be fair to Florida, just not to
dismiss them categorically. Right, Obviously they went on a horrendous
losing streak there, but they were in a couple of
those games where it's an ot loss to Arkansas, a
narrow loss at Missouri. Yeah, Georgia did what Georgia does
to teams. Okay, done, asked and answered, and so they came.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And whenever we.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Do the you throw the records out right, all those
those rival matchups as it were. But yeah, I haven't
find it hard to believe you're gonna get a top
notch effort with a quarterback who is gonna get very
few reps. Does this seems this is kind of a
new wrinkle to this story, right, This wasn't a hey,
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he probably isn't gonna go and you got a full
week and even then you're still going Wow, conference title game.
So Louisville's played, well, we watched him a bunch here
because well night games. It's the glory of being in
the studio and having all the monitors, Like what other
football could we find? There's Louisville and we get to
see it play live and the living color. But yeah,
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go into the third string guy, I mean, unless you're
gonna get some kind of miracle thing. And I know
there are some outliers in our college football and NFL histories.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Usually doesn't end too well now.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And even even if Fronemaker plays, it's not like he
was great last week. They struggled so much and Louisville
is the best team they've played all See, Louisville is
playing the best the end of the year. Really, it's
not an upset anymore. And it does the College Football
play Off a solid going. Okay, great, we don't have
to we don't have to get look at people hating
us because we're gonna take one loss Texas over undefeation Florida.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
But I think the narrative is already cooked in. You
know that even if they won. Look, unless they go
and absolutely obliterate Louisville, like say they'd come in and
they win by three scores, then all right, there's this
question that has to happen. But otherwise, I think everybody
throughout the week, anybody that follows college football, anybody that
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is a a pundit and expert, an analyst, and and
tangentially associated with reviewing the game and rolling into this
championship weekend was already bracing for all right, which team
jumps them?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Even if they won?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, right, even if they you know, covered what was
a two and a half point spread and everything else.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was can they really play?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Because I saw the advanced numbers, they were at least
a twelve point underdog against any of the current top
five right that the team and including the wrap around
when you when you had the Oregon Ducks, that it
was you're a double digit underdog under the best circumstances.
So it's very easy to just say, you know what,
(10:08):
nice try, you were close, but you're getting jumped because
this makes for a better product. Now next year we
expand the playoffs and folks can bemoan it all they want. Well,
we don't have those same arguments because all of your
teams that are truly deserving get in. If you guys
want to go and slap fight over three lost teams
over here, have at it.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
And y'a'll tell you want to watch and I joke
about Texas, but you watch about jumping Florida State. Florida
State loses this game, it opens the door for obviously
three teams, and two of them are teams that play tomorrow,
Alabama in the SEC Championship and Texas in the Big
Twelve Championship. All Alabama has to do is win. All
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Alabama has to do is win the game. Doesn't matter
how they do. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
If they kick four field goals, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
If they win and they throw four interceptions, right mill Roque,
doesn't matter, and Texas has to win big. Even if
that happens, the committee is still gonna take Alabama over Texas.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
They will still and.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
They will and it will be an absolute people will
head will explode because how do you take Alabama over Texas?
Alabama lost to Texas early in the season. And what
the CFP is gonna say, and this is gonna be
their mantra, because it's gonna be their mantra. What they'll
say if they have to exclude Florida State, it will
be their mantra. If they have to take Alabama over
Texas As, They're going to say, we are picking the
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four best teams in college.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Football right now? Who do we think are the four
best teams right now?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
That game Texas beating Alabama, that may as well have
been in twenty fifteen because Alabama is a different team now,
Texas a different team. Now you play that game, now
you get something different. That's going to be the mantra
of the CFP. Trust me you're gonna hear a lot
of that because someone's getting left out and it's gonna
be pissed, and it's gonna be a heritage, blue blood
team that would in normal years spark change the next
(12:04):
year for a bigger playoff. But we're getting the bigger
playoff next year. But that's gonna be the mantra. Our
job is not to say who's got the best resume.
Our job is that who is the best. Who are
the four best teams in college football right now? And
in our estimation, Alabama is better than Texas.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We Alabama wins the SEC title, and that's it, right, game,
set and match. Even if you don't believe the SEC
top to bottom, like you want to argue about best conferences,
that's where you go through.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
All right, give me the rankings.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Of how the computer spits that out SEC versus Big
ten versus Big twelve versus whatever else, and then you
can fight that. If you want to go and debate that,
you can have all the fun you want. But if
we're just talking about point blank, you're asked, what's the conference,
you're gonna get Big ten guys that are gonna get
really haughty about all of those teams at the top,
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and so they're gonna say, what about Iowa. It's like
all you need is one more point, It's.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
All that matters.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But the SEC is always the de facto they are
the best conference.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Brainwashed. Yeah, that's imagine.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
That's where we're at.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So if they win the conference, they're in.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, and just think about how the flip side from
If you're talking about two NFL teams at at here's
one point. One NFL team is nine and three, another
team is nine and three, and one team beat the
other in Week two? Are we sitting here saying, oh, no,
the team that won that game is better? No, who's
playing better now? Who's the best team right now? Just
because they won that game eight weeks ago doesn't mean
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they're still that team. Trust me. Teams are going to
get left out. And that's all they're gonna say. Best
teams right now? Who doesn't matter what they did before?
Who are the four best teams right now?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I want them to say it in just go bold.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
What is the best TV product we can give you?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
You mean best team? No?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
No, no, no, what's the best TV product we can give you?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
This holiday? Holiday?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Holiday?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Colo will play USC and then we get to see
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they throw three They make three plays and throw three
balls at the line of scrimmage. They wind up not
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got unaggressive there for a couple of minutes, and now
Washington has the football in their own territory nine minutes
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left and they lead the Ducks twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
We'll have more on this game coming.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
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that might not be an upset We're going to see
tomorrow in Louisville. Is the door open for Michigan to
actually lose the Big Ten championship. We'll tell you how
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That's coming up next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
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ticket into the college football playoff. Third and goal from
the one touchdown pass to Quinton Moore who sneaks it
in over the pylon a pylon, and now Washington will
be kicking the extra point for a ten point lead
over the Ducks. We're gonna to touchdown and an on
sidekick and a whole lot of luck to be able
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to come back and win this game. And here they
are about to make it thirty four to twenty four,
under three minutes left to go. And boy, I tell you,
I know we're gonna talk about the pennis play that
got overruled, that was a fumble on the field. But
I'll tell you, in a game where it's back and
forth and everybody's scoring every time, they get the football.
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Some of the play calls on that last Oregon drive
were just really puzzling, and they wound up with a
three and out and Washington of course gets it and
goes down. Look, they've been a step ahead of Oregon's
defense all night. They can't get to Michael Pennix Junior,
and he gets rid of the ball just enough time
to get it to a receiver, and they all have
space on the Oregon defenders, and they have just been
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one step ahead all night. And now here they are
down the field in the touchdown, and basically you can
book their ticket to the college football playoff.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
This drive twelve plays, eighty two yard, six minute, twenty seconds.
I just kept going, tick tick tick, dick, dick. It
looks like they're gonna get a stop. No defense rises
up on the second down play. They tried to get
a little cute getting out of the backfield with the
running back, no biting. You know, everybody stayed home, stayed
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on their man. But then on third down, tight end's
able to leak out. And that's the end of that
Washington touchdown drive. Big effort, big response to the early
second half charge, and one of the big questions down
the stretch, was all right, how quick are these possessions?
Are you going to be able to bleed the clock?
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While askedon answered Washington with a hell of a job
on this drive taken inside of three minutes.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So it's a ten point lead. Bo Nicks, if he
wants to win the Heisman Trophy, needs a touchdown on
side kick touchdown that he wins the Heisman Trophy. Yeah,
I got to see what the the current live odds
are on that Nielsy iss your Heisman Trophy winner. So
we'll have more on this game coming up again. Ten minute,
ten point lead, under three minutes left to go for Oregon. Now,
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we talked about the likelihood of a Louisville win over
Florida State tomorrow, especially now Florida State, you know, could
be down to their third quarterback, which would just be
absolutely abysmal. Roademaker is in doubt for the game to
orow game time decision after he got hurt last week.
Louisville likely is going to win. That's going to open
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things up Michigan and Iowa. Michigan's a twenty two point
favorite in this game, and they have everything. This is
the best team Jim Harbaugh's ever had. This is the
best team they've ever had. They should steamroll Iowa and
win this game. But how does Michigan lose? Is the
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door open to a Michigan loss a little bit more
than you think, because I can see a path to a.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Win for Iowa in this game.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I mean, look, Iowa's offense is not only abysmal, but
you're also going up against one of the top three
defenses in all of college football. You're not You're not
gonna move the football at all. So how does IOW
win this game? This should be a game where, hey,
it's close early, it's maybe a three to nothing game
for a while. Then maybe it's six nothing or it's
six ' three or it's nine to six, but then oh,
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a touchdown and a touchdown, and said Michigan winds up
winning like twenty two to three.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
But I will tell you this because this is this
is what makes me nervous and what keeps me up
if I'm a Michigan fan, is that you know Iowa's
defense is going to shut down the running game everything
they can to shut down Corum and Donovan Edwards. Right,
this is this is their bread and butter. They're gonna
make JJ McCarthy beat them. And here's the thing. JJ
McCarthy is a little overrated. JJ McCarthy is not the player,
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the Heisman Trophy candidate that people thought he was middle
of the season. In the last four weeks, McCarthy's accounted
for one touchdown. One touchdown touchdown pass against Ohio State
last week.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Your quarterback has accounted for one touchdown in the last
four games. And if you want to say, well, he
was dinged up, you don't know how hurt he is. No,
I get that, but he's still playing tomorrow. He's still
your quarterback tomorrow. On the field, he has not played well.
And I can see McCarthy because he's done this. He
has thrown many dangerous passes the last few weeks. He
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has been in and out of trouble. He's one of
those boy. I'll tell you there's two runners on every ending,
but he's finding a way to pitch out of it.
He has made some dangerous throws the last few weeks
and gotten away with it. Michigan has if he turns
the ball over and it's a crooked number and it's
three Michigan turnovers versus none for Iowa, and it's either
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defensive touchdowns or Iowa is set up deep in Michigan
territory and they get easy points off it. Because look,
they're not gonna drive seventy yards down the field. They're
not that good against Michigan's defense. But you're set up
with short fields and McCarthy tries to do too much.
Because I can see McCarthy try to do too much,
because he's done that a lot of times over the
past couple of years. That's my path to victory for Iowa.
(22:06):
I'm telling my team if I'm Kirk Ferrence, I'm saying, Okay, first,
I'm not going to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I know you just I know people haven't asked them.
I just want to let you know I'm staying, guys,
I'm staying out state.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
But it's get the football, shut them down, make McCarthy
do it himself, and he's gonna give us the football
and we're gonna get it. We're gonna make plays, we're
gonna be opportunistic, and it's gonna be a perfect game
on defense to do it. But we've seen Iowa play
terrific on defense. You don't know what Michigan's gonna be like,
getting that bounce coming off of last week against Ohio State,
and now it's going to be how do we win
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this game tomorrow. That's your path to victory. If McCarthy
is trying to do too much dangerous throws, he's gonna
turn it over. He's gonna get it to Iowa. And
this is where Iowa can win this game. Thirteen to ten,
thirteen to nine, something like that. That's the path. There's
no other way they can win, all right. So there's
the downside is there's no other way they can win
unless they get turnovers like that. But they can get
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them because they're gonna make McCarthy do it. He's not
that good hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
It's gonna be about turnovers, short fields, and special teams.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Right.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
One of the things that Iowa's had as well is
they've had tremendous work from their return game. So there's
gonna be an opportunity to create field position advantage. And
then look, this is where you have Henry Winkler's famous binder.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
From The Water Boy.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You go figure out whatever plays you've drawn up in
a fever induced scheme.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
The quarterback fakes. No, he pretends to fake moonshine.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Whatever your inspiration is, you go find the craziest ass
thing that you could possibly do. And remember they've also
been operating without their original quarterback for.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
A long time as well.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Right, But you know you're looking at that's gonna that's
gonna be what it takes. It's gonna be for perfect football,
I e. Mistake free football from your offense. But the
defense and specialty teams, they don't have to win those.
They have to dominate those two components here. And for
you know, coach friends, I mean this is he's even
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laughed about it right during his press conferences over the
course of the week. You know about the point spread
and what it might take. That's why we still play
the games like the potential for kaos still remains. And
I'm a big ten apologist to make no bones about it. Right,
My Northwestern diplomas there somewhere, But it's the idea for
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the conference would be great for Michigan. For me selfishly,
as a guy who likes chaos in between the white lines,
I hope to hell everything you outlined comes to fruition
because you know what happens why.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Was Ohio State makes it back into the playoffs? You want?
Do you want?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That happened in my house? You only live in a
Michigan house. Not only that, I'm rooting for that. We
have friends in town this weekend. Some of our best friends.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I don't know that who.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Also went to Michigan's I'm out.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Come and you don't have friends.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
No, it's well, it's.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Friends that I picked up because when I started dating
Pan and one of her best friends from college, we
just went to visit them and oh yeah, yeah they grow.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, Aaron and Dave are great.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
We went to visit them in Arizona last week for Thanksgiving.
Now it's like a home and home. We visited them
thanks Now the heres are going to see Mama Me
and tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
You're officiating their second.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I know like four four groups of people going to
see that tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah yeah, so's going. So they came in to see it.
So it's it's a home and home. But she went
to Michigan and she's as big a Michigan fan, except
she's not like my wife. If my wife gets mad
at Michigan, she starts cursing and getting really mad.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Her friend erin will leave the room to go read.
Like that's it. She's like, oh, I'm so madaged to
leave and go read. What does she go read? Read?
A book?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (25:46):
No, no, no, like a novel. She'll go read. She's going
back into her Jane Austin. I'm usual get football's in trouble.
I'm gonna go read by Nora Roberts novel. No, she
goes and she reads in the other room, like you
know how much I love to read. There's no, there's
no way. I'm so upset at my team. I would
leave and go. No, I would just play on my iPad,
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or I'd play on my kindle or something. I go,
I'm so mad about this. Or he would turn the
game off, Like, dude, you can I was with Aaron
and Dave. You can ask them, did I did I
leave the game at.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
A half time and say I don't And I yelled Domino,
mother blanker. It's just like I put it down and
slammed Domino. Uh no.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But look, that's what makes me nervous if I'm a
Michigan fan. That really, that's what is JJ McCarthy really
gonna be enough because I was gonna make him win
this game, and I'm telling you, I just don't know.
He's He's a good enough quarterback and he's made plays.
Is he as dynamic as they thought he would be
as a freshman, He's not. He still struggles a little
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bit more with with being able to move the team
and and be that dynamic playmaker. In the last four games,
I mean, he has just not been good. I mean
you had a game where against Penn State where it's like,
is he dinged up?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah? But really, really you only throw the ball a toe.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Off the upset Phil Parker gets a statue outside of Kenney.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And then maybe Kirk Ferance goes to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Maybe finally fifteen years Kirk ference, I'm going to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Guys, I've done it now I'm going I'm heading to
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I don't know. My head coach from the Northwestern football
team showed up and at the Northwestern basketball game tonight said,
you know, Gary Barnett promised going to Pasadena.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
We're going to the playoffs. Like there you go, coach Brawn.
So we got an update coming your way in a minute.
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(27:55):
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Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. So things get
a little interesting between Washington and Oregon.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Bo Nicks.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
A long touchdown pass has cut Washington's lead to thirty
four to thirty one, just over two minutes left to go.
The on side kick by Oregon goes out of bounds
offul Washington players. So the Huskies have the football still
over two minutes left and Oregon's got all three timeouts.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Its great chaotic on side kid timeouts, mishandled, and finally
you just slap it out of bows. All right, I'm
done with this.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
On the night the Pac twelve dies, this is how
they're going out.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Did you know?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Live odds?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Bo Nicks is once again the second behind Jade Daniels.
J Daniels is minus three hundred bon Nicks and plus
two twenty.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Now, let me get you caught up on where we're
sitting right now, because it has been insanity in the
last ninety seconds. Face with a third and five, and
you'd think this is the season. Washington's able to pick
up the first down. They run an outplay at the
sticks and it's a first down, you know, death taxes
and the dB playing too far off the cushion that
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the first down, well, they kind they kind of they
kind of confused of it because he had the one
wide out run of clearout to kind of confuse and
force him to be a little hesitant, and you saw
the wide the wide receiver kind of cut over. So
first down, you think the game is over. There's just
under two minutes left to go. Oregon's got one time
out left. Washington runs the football flags come flying out
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right away, holding on Washington, so it's a ten yard
penalty for the Huskies. More importantly, Oregon does not use
their last time out because you watch the play they
had to play to get the first down, the wide
receiver had to go out of bounds because that was
where the play. So Oregon now had one time out
left with Washington with the football facing second down. Washington
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just ran the football into the middle of the field
for no gain. So now if Washington does not get
a first down, did second and seventeen, Oregon could still
see the football here a little bit, They could still
get a little bit of time left here, potentially a little.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Bit, little bit.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Can we see some gross clock mismanagement like we have
in so many situations and games sitting at this desk
through the years, Man.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
This is really something. So Washington again trying to hold
on thirty four to thirty one. They have the football
second and seventeen. It's gonna wind up being a third
and about ten, and there is a buck forty left
to go. So Oregon's still not dead quite yet. The
death of the PAC twelve ten It's off my cart
(30:52):
coming up next? Are we talking about an unbelievable Oregon
comeback in overtime or are we talking about the Washington
Huskies moving on to the College Football playoff?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Keep it right here, Jason.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
And Mike Happy, final night of the PAC twelve Fox
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Speaker 2 (31:06):
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Speaker 1 (31:16):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. Is this admetite for Christmas? The pac twelve
is dead Long Live, Long Live pack. The other two,
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the Washington Huskies have defeated the Oregon Ducks. They are
headed to the College Football Playoff thirty four thirty one.
They clinch the game on their final possession and just
because I want to talk about this for a couple seconds,
because I really I don't understand this, you know now
watching the final play, that really clit for the Huskies.
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Right they was facing third and five, there was less
than two minutes left to go. If the Huskies don't
get the first down, bow Nicks has a chance to
get down the field for at least a touchdown for
at least a field goal, if not a touchdown, to
win the game.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
And Michael Pennix.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Junior throws just a down and out to Jalen McMillan,
who catches the ball at the stick two steps goes
out of bounds, first down Washington.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
And that effectively ends the game.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
They were able to extend it a little bit more
because Washington had a penalty on first down, but a
couple of runs by the Huskies end the game and
they win it thirty four to thirty one. I never
understand this. This is the game, this is the season,
this is everything. I never understand on plays where the
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wide receiver has to gain and has to catch the
ball at the yardstick, got to catch the ball. If
it's third and five, you can't throw the ball four yards.
The wide receiver has to catch the ball sure, five
yards down on the field right. Can't do it, can't
do it fourt No, gotta catch it five yards downfield.
If you're the dB, you gotta be right on him right,
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And there's no way you can't be on him. When
you're talking about five yards. He's running right at you.
If he runs past you, and they throw it deep,
they throw it deep. But chances are, when you need
that kind of yardage for a first down, you're throwing
it to the stick. Why because the other team is
bringing pressure. There's not gonna be a long time to
make a throw like that. And if you get beat deep,
you get beat deep. But don't give him the ball
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at the yard marker. And all McMillan does his run,
he's almost a full yard past the marker and he
turns and the ball is on the money and the
defensive back is two steps away from him, and it's
an easy first down for Washington. I don't understand. And
this is fifty years of watching football now, especially college football,
where hey, when you need this, why is the dB
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when you're in man coverage? Why are you so far
off the guy? You know where he's got to get
you for the first down. This is the season, this
is your play, this is everything beyond the guy. If
he beats you deep, well, okay, you know what they
ran in that play. I had to sell out to
catch that ball at the yard stick. I had to
do it. But again, I'm standing there and I'm not
I'm kind of frozen.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
But you know, you gotta be on him.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I'm not saying because it looked like that he was
waiting to see which way he's gonna cut. Well, I'm sorry,
you got to be right on him and follow him
when he's cut that way. Yeah, I get maybe he
could go to the middle of the field, but you
gotta be right. You got to know what kind of
what he's brushing his teeth with. That's how close you
got to be with him before, so when he cuts
one way or the other, you can get a hand
in front of the ball.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
You got your five yard cushion as well when you
get to it. And just from that perspective, but yeah,
we watch it all the time, situational football, the cushion
that's given and it's down distance, time of game, et cetera. Right, yes,
you want to be a bit cautious and most of
the game. Yeah, you can give up that and just say,
all right, they got the short gain, they're not getting
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me over the top. You can't play that in this situation.
That's the down that determ means a win and a
loss when you're able to bleed clock. And and yes,
to your point, the penalty did create a little bit
of chaos, but Dylan Johnson more than up to the task.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I did like that.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
You know, they just said, all right, we're gonna use
our running game and we're gonna sledge hammer.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, we're finishing this.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
And that's exactly what they did. Because there was a
scenario whereby there was still potential for one or two
plays well.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Maybe maybe even more.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
The way that you can get up to the line
of scrimmage and keep things moving, but they kept bo
Nicks from ever seeing the football again. Credit Huskies. Credit
the game plan and execution down the stretch looking for
that little bit of cushion and took out every bit
of advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
And I told you all week long, Washington in a
close one, No, that was gonna be one thriller.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
J question about it, Washington, I wanted chaos and pack
twelve after dark.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Mike, you don't let them off the hook. No, No,
because I said Washington by actually you have the Seahawks
in a round.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
It was the Seahawks that are route changed the nickname.
And yeah, I mean all signs pointed to Oregon trending
in the right direction to a potential blowout scenario where
the offense was humming. You look at Pennix Junior, who'd
looked like a bit of a different quarterback these last
few weeks. And you know, I'll be the first to
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say it out wrong. I mean, they came out, they
played clean Jersey club. Oregon couldn't get to them some
big deep throws early in this game to build the lead,
and you had to take moral victories even on the
you know, the first possession fifteen play drive, it came
down and methodically just punched Oregon in the mouth after
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taking the ball and the opening kickoff.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Look, Washington was a step ahead of Oregon all night.
They were just it wasn't that this was a close.
This is too heavyweights all the whatever, whatever you want
to say, whatever cliches. These are two heavyweights back and forth.
But Washington was a it's a little bit better. There
are one step ahead all night, and that final play
exemplifies it. There ones because that receiver was a step
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and a half ahead of the dB and there's your
play that clinches the game. Well, you're thinking they want
to keep going for the downs because that has been
the offense right in big play and explosive plays. Here
they didn't need the explosive play any five yards. You
gave it to him. So Washington is in the playoff.
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