December 2, 2023 • 36 mins
Freezing Cold Takes trolls Jason. The guys are joined by Pete Fiutak from College Football News to recap the PAC-12 Championship Game and preview all of tomorrow’s Championship games. Plus, Vegas Insider Todd Fuhrman checks in for all the odds for Week 13 in the NFL.
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Speaker 2 (00:56):
Give it to the Washington Huskies. Johnson cuts up field.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Oh, he's gonna go because the thirty five thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
He slides down to the twenty five.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
The Huskies are gonna left the Pop TWEK Championship.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Dylan Johnson Dennitt.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He picked up a first down and the Huskies are.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Going to the College football Playoffs?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Do you believe in Huskys? A nice bet for Kaylin Nepour.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Hello, Purple party in Las Vegas, sprinting out onto the
field Washington thirty four, Oregon thirty one.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I love this team, I love these coaches. I love
it all. I love everybody man, I love I love you,
love you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Learfield Sports on the call. The Huskies are headed to
the college football playoff. Joining us now in the hotline,
nobody we love more? Longtime college football insider, owner, editor
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Speaker 2 (01:54):
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Speaker 2 (02:00):
Speede few tech pete. What's happening? Bud?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Thank you for joining us on the night the PAC
twelve died. I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
But Lobby Brady on the call, it's time to change.
By the way, is it news that like you're viral
right now? You are across the Twitter verse the exverts.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, it's kind of a big deal.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah yeah, no, no, you're you've kind.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Of gone viral here. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah. The freezing cold takes kids caught a hold of uh,
you know, X of yours or a TwixT of yours whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's called twigs. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, because I said Washington by three no in this game,
and I turned out to be right on, so people
really want them, you know here.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I like I've been I've been freezing cold takes taken before,
and they took it, and I realized that you just
gotta have to like stay cool, okay, fine until the
turn off the idiots to get really actually mad at
that and just realize it's all in fun but like
not not like you are a lone wolf on then.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, nobody exactly, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I mean, look, I thought Washington would cover. I thought
they would make this close. I was like, poor Washington,
and I hope they just show off this little team
that you know, might be able to make him and
I thought they would come close and then lose it
late and Bonick's just never got it shut. But nobody
really had had this, And so now we get to
the point of this that hey, look for what I do.
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I hope other teams upset others to make this interesting,
because like I want to send my kid in college,
but it might just be as easy as four teams
go thirteen and oho and win their conference championship and
we sleep in on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, look as someone who said Washington by three and
it's gonna be close, and they're gonna pull it out late.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Maybe they'll run the ball a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Uh, Pete watching this, this really surprised me because these
were two teams who are going in opposite directions. Look,
and yes, I get I'm watching myself go viral because
I picked Oregon in a route and I was very
loud about it.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's all right, it's all clicks for Fox Sports Radio.
It totally.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
This is this is because this is you didn't actually
do anything. Yeah, you're not gonna get canceled. No, actually,
you know, do anything wrong?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I picked a game wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
No, John Pudin hums you. The w history is greatest monsters.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That was the first guy to ever pick a game wrong.
But but but here's the thing is they were going
in opposite directions. Oregon was charging toward the playoff and
Washington was out of gas. And yet tonight the Huskies
were just Look, they were just one step ahead most
of the night. And then that's really what it was.
They were just one step ahead of Oregon, just a
little bit better. And you know that final play that
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first down. You know, the year fifty of watching football,
watching the dB not cover a wide receiver close enough
at the yardstick, and you know, Jayleen McMillan gets the
first down. I give watching a lot of credit, but
I did not see that coming for the Huskies.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Can I quick quick changing? Going away from this with
all the metrics and all the next gen death and
all the one zero percent chance of just like, why
can't anybody figure out when to take a knee?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Like it was driving me up a wall because they
I mean, you know, god bluck, because nobody knows, because
they're like, oh, well that helps Oregon because you know,
they got a penalty of stuff the clock. Yeah, but
it took nine seconds off. They had one time out left,
and they kept handing the ball off and if they
just took a knee ran the clock down, they'd have
to give up the ball with approximately like six seconds
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to go, you know. So yeah, but that that outweighs
the risk of fumbling and giving it to back to
bow Knicks and two plays later you're out, Like, I
don't get why you can go do this? But this
all this game also showed another thing that's kind of
mixing in with the transfer portal. The other big story
in college football right now. All of these million dollar quarterbacks,
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and I think if I when I run a college
football program, you can have a pretty good quarterback. But
get their linemen. Yeah, what what won this? Give me
Give me the Give me that left tackle who could
just shove, you know, Give me the big that big
defensive tackle in the middle for Washington who just ate
everything up against Bucky Irving. You know, get the big dudes.
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I mean, because at the end of the day, what happened. Yeah,
Bo Nixon, Oregon are a whole lot of fun, but
they just got shoved in this game. They when they
absolutely had to, they said, we're not messing around here.
We go just bam. That offensive line of Washington just
got the job done.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Johnson twenty eight, two and two on the ground, I mean,
just right and good and sealed the deal. But we
were joking about it, you know, as it got to
halftime and Oregon was creeping back into the game. Uh,
I saw Pendis Junior go to the ground on a play,
you know, just kind of to avoid a hit. That
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was the first time I think is his jersey had
actually hit the turf at that point kind of amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I mean, that's the you know, that's the NFL's outing,
you know thing on him. It's like, Okay, he's great.
If he gets time, he's absolutely deadly. He's just a
couple of beautiful downfield shots. I mean, he just he
just has that ability. But you get he's not getting
pressured at all, and that's gonna be the tough part
from the scouts and going forward when you're talking about
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top five, tops ten. Pick is like, i mean, obviously
he's good. Obviously he's talented, but you know, under pressure,
he's fine. But he's a different quarterback you saw in
the third quarter when they get pressure on him and
be able to lay a finger on him.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Pete Futech with US College Footballnews dot Com Inside of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live the Tyreck
dot Com Studios. All Right, one more on Washington before
we get to tomorrow. Is this a Washington Husky team
that can do damage, make it far in the CFP,
play for the championship, win it, or is this a
team that, hey, Washington's been a good run. They're gonna
play Michigan, They're gonna play Georgia and that's gonna be it.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, this ties into what are we getting tomorrow? Like
here's where this gets fuck. First of all, obviously we're
going to carve out time for the amazing Conference USA
Championship with twelve hundred yards of offense. Yeah, seven hundred
and twenty yards of Liberty office.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That was.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That was fun. That was That was just a good
multi verse use of the multi multi view. But anyhow,
yeah they could because like, well, first of all, what
are we getting with the SEC championship game? Because that
means everything. So in this whole our overarching thing, if
Florida State wins, they're not going to say, hey we
have four thirteen and ozhero Power five Conference champions. If
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Georgia wins and leave out Florida State, They're just they're
not going to do it. It's it's I know there's
going to be arguments and say, all this team should
be better. I just don't think it'll happen. It would
just go against every sort of president. So like Texas
kind of got hosed in this because there's not really
a path now. They need Alabama to beat Georgia or
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Texas has no chance because if Georgia wins, then what happens?
I mean, then, if Florida State is able to beat Louisville,
they're going to take the four thirteen and oh Power
five Conference champions and that's that, but not beating Oklahoma,
and that's just not quite good enough. So if Florida
State wins tomorrow and Georgia wins tomorrow, is game over.
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If Florida State loses, then we get the I'm sorry.
If Alabama wins, then we get the argument is it
Georgia or Florida State? I mean this this gets funky
for Texas. So Texas long, long winded way of saying
the short they needed Oregon to win and it didn't happen.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Absolute chaos. Well what are you looking for? That Florida
State Louisville matchup? Two points and a hal.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
This is where the rest of SSU shows. I mean,
this is kind of what happened tonight with Washington is
kind of what I see Florida State being being like,
all right, you think we're doing enough on off Okay,
you know, just yes, our quarterback might be down to
our third string guy, but we also have the best,
better defense. We also have the guys on on the
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other skill spots, we have the offensive line. We're gonna
run the ball fifty times, go ahead and stop us.
And I think Florida State kind of comes out and
be just like, we're just gonna overcome our quarterback. And
I think the CFP narrative it's pretty easy, especially if
they are down to that third string guy. It's not Ronmger,
it's they able to say, look, you know, yeah, they're
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number two. Guy is out with the concussion, but a
month from now he's supposed to be fine, so you know,
they got through this. They're indefeat and let's see what
they can do in this thing. So I am looking
for I mean, but obviously then it all comes down
to the SEC Championship. That is everything I've done this far.
I still think Bama. I know this, Bama how Bama
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roles I've seen. I've just still got twenty twenty one
in my head. It's gonna be interesting. But if they
Aba Alabama wins that, then this gets really really funky.
If Georgia wins, it's gonna be pretty pretty basic stuff here.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Oh man, Pete, I AMMA wins.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
How do we get Alabama and Georgia in and Michigan
and we're kicking out Florida State. I mean, that is
the CFP. Do they want that? Do they want Alabama in?
Or do they Are they saying, hey, we need Georgia
to win this game so we don't have absolute anarchy
in chaos?
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I mean if if Alabama wins, then what do you
do because I let's say Alabama wins and let's say
Florida State loses. Okay, if the Florida State loses, then
that then what do you got? You've already got. We're
assuming a Michigan win. I think Michigan didn't even say lose.
But let's say, you know, let's say that clean Michigan wins,
no problems. So then if Alabama wins, then Michigan's the one,
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Washington's the two, Alabama's the three, and then you're the
argument comes down to Georgia who lost. Let's say, let's
assume Texas wins the Big Twelve championship like this, this whole,
this part of the Bay can be over by lunch
tomorrow for you guys, but uh, Texas can if Texas wins.
Are you taking Texas which wins their Big Twelve championship.
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Are you taking Georgia now? You're assuming if Florida State loses,
like they have never ever taken a Power five championship
game loser over a Power five championship twelve and one winner.
So for them to put in Georgia just because over
Texas they can't. They can't say, hey, Texas, you won
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your Power five Conference championship. Georgia, didn't you beat Alabama
and you're out and the two SEC teams are in.
So basically, Washington winning tonight probably killed the idea of
two SEC teams getting in if Texas wins tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
See, but here's the thing, Pete, And this is what
I come back to and seeing when the CFP committee
director went on ESPN earlier this week and said, yeah,
Florida State undefeated, number four, different team without Jordan Travis
said it twice, different team without him.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I can easily see.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
After that, what are they gonna say after games tomorrow
and then on Sunday. Our job is not to pick
who had the best resume. Are not job as to
pick who bey who? Our job is to pick the
four best teams in the country Right now, Yeah, Alabama,
it doesn't matter because what are they gonna do.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
We have the twelve team playoff next year. Doesn't matter
next year.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
They say that, and then they don't. I mean, look
like you know, old Blue, you want to talk about freading
cold take. I think in that analysis thing is that
I think his his rationale was bo Nicks hits eighty
three percent of his passes. I think I think that
he actually said something to that effect. And here's the
thing you remember about the college football Playoff Committee. I
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used to work with them. I've been in there, I've
done the process. I've gone through the whole thing. I've
stayed in grape Vine, that lovely place, a nice little
bakery there, nice place. The top line of everything is
did you win your conference championship? And they want the
other thing. The rules are loose. They specifically keep everything
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just a little bit, you know, vague, just in case
they want to wiggle room to some nuts around things.
But they have again, they have never ever left out
an undefeated Power five conference champion. And they only left
out Ohio State one year when they were twelve and
one because they got housed by Purdue and Notre Dame,
which is basically a Power five team, went undefeated. That's it.
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They've never left out another twelve and one Power five
conference champions and they've never certainly I don't think are
going to ever leave out it undefeated Power five conference champs.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
He's on Twitter at pete few Tech. That is, at
peach few Tech College Football Insider. Check out everything you
need for Championship Saturday College Footballnews dot Com. Pete has
always man appreciated. And you'll feel good because I have
Louis Villain a route tomorrow, so you'll feel good for
a bit about Florida State.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Let's go, Hey, let's go. Hey, good for me, good
knock it out.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
See you buddy, have fun later.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, yeah, boy, let's fits my watching yourself go viral
first missing missing a game completely right. But the analysis
I think was probably like AI picked up by many
other sites already. It was a But the point is
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we did the analysis, and I don't think there's anything.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Wrong with it, right, and I think it was echoed.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Just a matter of how deep you went down the
rabbit hole of stats, narrow victories, near misses, all of
those things like we did, others might have done at
more surface level.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Going Nah, you know, Oregon's just scored a lot of
BIX is great.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
We did the deep dive and you know what, Washington
heard it used it as bulletin boar material and they
rallied around it and they played.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
A hell of a game. That's all you can say.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
You know what, this tweet is much. I'm seeing gifts
that I haven't seen it for ever. Phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Look, man, there's a great Duff mcgagan song where he
just keeps yelling, we.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Win, we win, we went.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Keep keep pushing it, keep telling us how dumb Jason
and I to waiting.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
For the show's Jason exit.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
That's why I parenthetically added me exit swollen down the
Jason Smith.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Show with my best friend Mike Carmon. Yeah, oh look
at it. I love going by. You got the game wrong?
I did. We'll talk about it. Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Washington's into the playoff. Who could join them? Could we
see upsets? What about all upset special picks? Now you're
gonna want to go opposite me for everything?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Keep it right here. The Friday night fun is just starting.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
On the last night of the PAC twelve conference, they
had a good run.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Keep it right here. They did have a good Okay, yes,
they did have a good run, but.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
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you to Freezing Cold tape. Yeah, thanks for picking up
my Oregon will Oregon will smoke Washington prediction from earlier
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this week. And boy, I'll tell you this is this
is not a great last few minutes for me.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
On No, it's great.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Can we do another four really hot take videos that
go up before Tomorrow's game?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And people and people always say to me, hey, like
when Louisville is gonna win a route over f s
U Mike Song, Like, okay, so I picked Oregon in
a route over Washington and you know it was put
up is this week is an article and now it's
going viral because clearly I was wrong. And you know
the thing is people say to me all the time
(19:03):
and they always ask me, this is that, hey, when
you're wrong?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So if you're if you're wrong about something, is it
a big deal? And I go, I'm never wrong?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
What are you talking about you, He goes, well, if
you pick a game wrong, I go, Oh, if I
pick a game wrong, you know, you know everybody picks games.
No one really holds you down to it. You know,
it doesn't really matter. Nope, clearly I was wrong. Twenty
plus years in the business and I'm wrong. No, but
here's the thing, because our boss is going to be
mad you got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, keep click click click click click, And doesn't matter
if you're wrong.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
You know, if you're to rank them, this is like,
you know the Jets Jets games that are in the
two sixties and are top two seventy two of twenty
twenty three.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Is that yay? You watch them? They sucked? You move on.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, there's a lot of guys with extra commas in
their paychecks that say a lot of really stupid things
with some regularity.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
There's still employing. Oh you're right now, you picking a
game wrong. Ain't running you out of the chair? No? No,
well there's another few thousand right there.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Unless you start cursing about it and use some let
the expletives fly.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I can. I can never go to Seattle again. I can.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I know I picked them to go to the World
Series Jade Rod was the MVP. Neither of those things happened. Well,
for a while, he looked like he was he was
really gonna make a run, and then everybody else stopped
hitting when he did. Maybe now they're even, like they're
even with me now with Jason Smith, he picked Oregon.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
In a route.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I mean, here's well, then you did that thing where
they threw the fish tea and you dropped it and
caused all sorts of problems and make come on, this
is almost like an onion tweet because it's it's what
I Oregon will smoke Washington. They're gonna mush them, and
bo Nicks will win the Heisman Trophy because of it.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Is that why bo Nicks was, you know, in a
heap on the bench at the end of that game,
was because of.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You said, Yahoo's fault Jason Smith on me.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And I said it all I haven't said it today
in LA we talked about the death of the Big ten.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
It was on with Rodney.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Pack well as you know Northwestern beating number one for
new We talked.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
About the death of the death of the Pac twelve,
Theys and Oregon's gonna smoke Washington, use what They're gonna
blow them out? O, don't even the points lay whatever
you can not.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Apparently that was not the case.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
But let's go to Vegas right now. Bring in a
long time friend of the show, Vegas insider, former rons
maker at Caesar's. Check them out on CBS Look at
the Board podcast, Todd Furman.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Todd, what's happening, buddy?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (21:35):
I'm doing well, gentlemen. Hopefully you guys are holding up
on this fine Friday.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Oh yeah, you know me.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I just said Oregon's gonna crush the crap out of Washington,
and you know it didn't happen that way.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
So, I mean, look at ten point favorite loses all
the time in college football. I mean, it was a
side that took money from professional betters. There was a
real battle in that game. But you know you watched
Washington early on. Clearly they felt disrespected and put together
their most complete effort that we've seen, arguably since the
last time they these very same ducks up in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Now, wait a minute, Todd, look at Look at Todd
trying to make me maybe it's the holidays. I expected
time to go Smith. That's what happens when you make
stupid picks like you did.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That's what I know.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I mean, look, I mean here, sometimes you say some
things that are landish, and I'll cut you down at
peg or two. But this one. I mean, look, people
say things all the time about games, get them wrong,
and that's the nature of the business. I mean, at
ten point favorite loses every week in college football. I
don't think anybody thought Oregon would really struggle this much
to move the football offensively. And you've seen a seismic
shift in the Heisman Trophy odds as well as a
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result of the performance tonight.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
What's the turnout there?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I mean, obviously it looked like a nice jam packed
stadium at Allegiant.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Are they bringing their wallets to bet?
Speaker 7 (22:40):
I mean, usually when you get this kind of crowd
in town for a game like this, you're gonna get
folks that are stopping at some of the properties on
that side of the stripta put a little skin in
the game. And as far as the way this game was, bet,
I'll look, I mean, you saw a very good two
a action with a number that open and no man's
land north of a touchdown, and it just rough goes
to show that even when you start to adjust your
POWs based on current form, things can change. In the
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general public thought this was too many points and found
themselves on the Washington side and end up cashing that
ticket with relative.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Easy all right, tod, So we watch Washington when they're
in the college football playoffs to probably have other winning
in games. If I said to you the undefeated team
that's going down tomorrow, and you gotta give me somebody,
who do you give me?
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I mean, if you're looking at the teams that are undefeated,
I mean, this is a low hanging fruit that's out there,
it would be Georgia are the most likely to lose,
given the fact that it's a team only you know,
in that four and a half five point range. But
you know, I think Texas is going to have their
hands full against Oklahoma State. You have a team that
has nothing to lose out there. Coach Gundy's teams that
fared exceptionally well when they step up in class, both
from a straight up and ats standpoint. And I think
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when you look at the way the Cowboys played against
Kansas State and Oklahoma earlier this year, while it may
not be easy, look Steve Sarkisian not afraid to let
him fear. Your teams hang around, So I think Oklahoma
State's got more than a puncher's chance to maybe spoil
the party for the long runs.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So you like Florida State, you didn't mention Florida State
and they could be down to Casey Weldon at quarterback.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I mean, this is a game right here that it's
not really an upset by any stretching the imagination with
Florida State at one point. Favorite. So flip a coin
in this game, and I think it'll hinge a little
bit more on what the Seminoles can do defensively in
this spot than anything else we've seen Adam Fuller really
try and mix things up defensively. Typically comes with a
vanilla game plan for the Seminoles early in games and
tries to get more exotic in the second half. But
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in this spot they may need to try and force
a short field, create a turnover. But there are a
lot of people that really believe in in Brock Glenn,
and this number got down to a pick them and
you saw Florida State money start to come into the market,
driving this back into that one one and a half range.
So people that want to eulogize Florida State already, I
think are doing so prematurely. And we'll see if this
team uses the injury around Jordan Travis and the potential
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concussion to Tay Roddamaker to really galvanize the troops and
complete their undefeated campaign, much like Washington did tonight.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
What are the odds that Iowa gets shut out?
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Not as great as anybody would think when you look
at their team total at seven and a half, heavily
shaded to the under. I mean, we got this matchup
in the Big Ten Championship two years ago and it
was Michigan winning forty two to three. So asking for
Iowa to get shut out here, I think the better
profit is which team will score score more points this weekend,
the Iowahawke eyes of the New York Jets. We'll step
both those over unders right around seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Hey, hey, I'm playing the Falcons.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Come on, dude, we're playing the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
We'll get your quarterback is still Tim Boyle, and the
fact that Jets fans thought he was going to be
an upgrade over Zach Wilson is one of those things
that leaves me scratching my head because we talked about before.
Zack Wilson may have thrown a pick on a hail
Mary at the end of the half, but he would
have had the athleticism to at least make the tackle,
unlike Tim Boyle.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Hey, every day that goes by, Aaron Rodgers is coming back.
Sooner and sooner. He's going to be the guy going
out there on Sunday. I'm not worried.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Yeah, I'm sure Aaron Rodgers eighteen to get back there
and take snap center center for a team that maybe
four and ten when he gets activated off by.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Our he's a medical Marvel.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
San Francisco Philadelphia Game of the Week San Francisco field
goal favorite Philly. Is there yeh question a motivation with
this one banged up and really you're still playing for January?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Does this one matter that much?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
I don't think motivation is a question at all, because
if San Francisco ends up beating Philly here and the
Eagles were to lose back to back games, their stranglehold
on having that number one seed in the NFC gets
to be perilously thin. So I think Philadelphia go out
there give it everything they have. Now if it's enough
to beat a forty nine Ers team that'll be well
rested coming in off the mini buy with revenge on
their mind. That's a much different story. I mean, this
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is an Eagles team with a point differential plus sixty
four this year, despite the ten to one record, will
be the first team with a record like that to
be a home underdog with their normal starting quarterbacks since
nineteen seventy. So historically relevant this weekend, and you can
understand why betters and oddsmakers are alike are a little
bit skeptical of a Philadelphia team that has been living
on the razor's edge with comeback wins against Kansas City
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and Buffalo, now playing their third game in thirteen days
or thereabouts.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
All Right, Todd, lastly, let's finish here because it may
be the last time we talk you before this happens.
If I said to you in the next next week,
we expect it to be done. Show Hao Tani will
have his new team. The team will be who, you
know what.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
I think he ends up with the Dodgers. I don't
think show Hey decides he wants to switch coast, and
I think he realizes that he can still keep his
current residence in Los Angeles, and we know the Dodgers
have no problem phoning up to cash. I feel that
makes the most logical sense if Showhi has enjoyed his
time in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Uh, Todd, justin Frostberg wants you to move in with
him now after that take.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
He loves he loves you, he loves you so much.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not quite sure that's that's the case.
But you know, frost may have a new job. He
may end up getting to be Brandon Staley's personal valet
and may have to be responsible for booking Staley's travel
if the Chargers lose on Sunday to the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
He's on Twitter at Todd Furman. That is, at Todd Furman.
Check him out to Bet the Board podcast former Rods
maker at Caesars on CBS as well. Todd is always
by the appreciate you with us on a Friday night
bet Thanks for hanging always.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
A pleasure, gentleman. Enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Thanks got you soon. It must have been the holidays.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Smith's a stupid ass making may hey, look it happens,
and it happens. It's college football. We see big, big
underdogs rise up.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, And I do want to say this.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I distinctly like the fact that you added me on
the tweet that that I picked Oregon to win on
and you added Washington football on there.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Hey, Washington football. See what my jackass co.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
Host do this?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I did? You did that?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Did?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Dude?
Speaker 8 (28:26):
We gotta put mic up on our shoulders.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
He added Washington football. I said, congratula Washington football.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
Yeah. Yeah, Well you add softy kJ.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
R Oh I should have. Yeah, I'll go back and
do it again.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Did you add Mark Brunel and Don James and Billy
jo Hoobrah.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
All the other guys illuminaries that were there? Shrimp was there?
Speaker 8 (28:47):
Does he still have the blonde mullet?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
He does spectacular? Yeah, check it out. Look at this.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I'm sorry that that that Northwestern didn't win on a
night where they could own the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Sick.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
It's early the basketball, it's early conference plans, all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But you succeed and proceed.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Take the w hard fought win in ot where they
had a big pow wow of all right, how do
we get the Purdue players off the floor in the
final seconds without them being mobbed by the student section
and everybody rushing the court.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
See things are going green and Purdue until Matt Painter
did an interview with us.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
It is his faulty. See it's your fault again. Go
see if we can find clips of that today Freezing
Gold Takes. I got another one.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
For you, Uh exit out about a Fresca exits swollen down.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon
coming up next. I am glad you are with us
tonight because we always talk about being able to break
down the end of an era, but it is a
very special night we're in is the end of an
absolute era, and you want to be with us to
talk about what's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
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Speaker 3 (29:57):
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Speaker 2 (30:04):
Why is Queen still playing? But juke Puck must have
been plugged in? Well unplugged. You want to go get
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Speaker 1 (30:18):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
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Speaker 6 (30:26):
Hey Alex, if he hadn't said it enough tonight, thank you?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You know once in a while when I thought, well,
he's really gonna play Mariah Carey. Oh no, no, no,
we're not kidding.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Wait did you thank the crew from five to seventy today?
I know because I filled it in five seventy in
LA today. I did not thank the crew today on Twitter.
I need to think why what happened? Just make sure
what you said precedent?
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Man?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I did, I did.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I forgot to think that I gotta thank everybody. I
think everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Everybody listen, especially thank you Jason, since thank you especially
Freezing cold takes yes.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Because I have closed the Pac twelve Back twelve is closed.
I've closed, I've locked the door. Nobody is inside, Jason.
There's a big sticker on the front saying closed.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Did you thank us at five seventy today?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
But I didn't thank them either. I didn't think anybody yet.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Maybe maybe I'm waiting till the end of the day,
the holiday season. Maybe I'm waiting till the end of
it nobody to thank everyone.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
He's gonna steal a a Fallon's bit and start doing
thank you notes.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I'm just not gonna than any thank you. Freezing Cold
takes all you ungrateful be.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Thank you editors at Freezing Cold Takes DJ, Thank.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You India, thank you, Providence, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Wow nicely done you Syracuse, thank you Northwestern, Thank you
Big Eiast nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
We say the phrase the end of an era all
the time, and we'll get into my my pick that
didn't work out a few minutes. Uh. We say the
end of an era all the time. But tonight was
the end of an era. And and for a long time.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I get these feelings sometimes we do shows that just
certain shows feel a little bit different because it's something
happening that is just you're never gonna capture again. And
it's the end of the PAC twelve. It's the end tonight.
The PAC twelve is closed.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
We talked about the PAC twelve died tonight it did.
This was the last night. The PAC twelve is done.
PAC twelve football is over a conference that everybody grew
up watching that. I'm still tonight. I'm that eight year
old kid that watched USC and the Rose Bowl for
the first time and Charles White go crazy. I thought
he was gonna be an absolute superstar in the NFL,
and and everything through the eighties and and the USC
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UCLA rivalry and Washington winning in the nineties with Don James,
and then you know USC and then UCLA's mini dynasty
they had in the mid nineties and suddenly watched USC
and Pete Carroll become the rock stars of college football
in the early two thousands, and then incredible gross mismanagement
of this conference for a decade. And now there's no
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more PAC twelve. I mean it's done, it's over. I
mean certain things. Oh yeah, you'll have a certain amount
of time and then it's going to end for you
because nothing lasts forever. But that I ever think the
PAC twelve or the PAC ten when it was there,
was ever going to not be around. And now it's gone.
It's gone.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Well, but that's the thing, right is and we love
to bring our pop culture, you know, wisdom or stupidity,
depending on how you see it. When we talk about
movies and TV shows and everything else. Right we have
the blip, we go to the Marvel Universe, the snap,
the blip and all of that and everything vanishes.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's kind of how it feels with a lot of stuff.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Right as you get older, things disappear, but the college
sports landscape is just so ever evolving, like it's the
you know, time lapse photography. Right, this happened over a
thousand years. I showed it to you in six point
eight seconds. That's kind of what we've gotten here.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Right.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
You knew change was inevitable. We've been talking about super
conferences and all this forever. But all of a sudden
realignment and then the absolute implosion of a conference. Right,
the predominant West Coast Conference is gone. All of these
big schools with all these rich histories, the Heisman trophies
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lined up, Reggie Bush's getting into the Hall of fair
How the hell does that make any sense? You took
the man's Heisman trophy, But now you're gonna welcome into
the Hall of Fay.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
But I digress. But we're watching all of this change.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
You add nil, you add all these different things, and
it's not the game you recognized anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
But to completely dissolve.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
What has been one of the biggest conferences, the maker
of so many stars all these years through the decades,
television stars, movie stars, broadcasting stars, and of course obviously
the guys that went into the league and starred for years.
And that's just gone. It's part of the history. And yes,
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they live on and they move into different conferences, and yes,
it's becomes the education of hey, this is what that
team and the school was.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But it's it's just so different.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
And watching it tonight, all the mascots lined up, that's
the image that right, they're all down in that one
end zone and it's like this said said Meme, kind
of event of there we all are. We're all gonna
split and go our separate ways, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And this is the part that's frustrating is that it
didn't have to be this way. Sure, it's gross mismanagement.
Larry Scott and the Pac twelve leadership is what led
to today. And you could on the surface say, well,
who saw this coming, the realignment of college football, all
these things. I was to say, no, you and I
didn't need to see this.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
The people who are running the bleep in Pac twelve
needed to see it. But the problem is everything he did.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
But that's that's your job is to understand this is
where college football is going. This is how we need
to stay afloat, how we need to stay solvent and
be one of the big conferences standing because we should
be the biggest because we have an entire coast, and
that's what the frustrating part is that the leadership didn't
see this and now there's no more PAC twelve because
of that, when they should have been equal with the
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SEC or the Big ten because they can have an
entire half of the country play in the pack two.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
So we always had the arguments and discussions of hey,
the East coast bias on this that the other.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
How do we gain more relevance? Oh wait, you need
a better TV package than what you created. Dopes coming
up next way, do we tell you what's going on
in Vegas right now? Following Washington's win over Oregon. It
is the night the PAC twelve died and
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Speaker 2 (00:56):
Give it to the Washington Huskies. Johnson cuts up field.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Oh, he's gonna go because the thirty five thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
He slides down to the twenty five.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
The Huskies are gonna left the Pop TWEK Championship.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Dylan Johnson Dennitt.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He picked up a first down and the Huskies are.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Going to the College football Playoffs?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Do you believe in Huskys? A nice bet for Kaylin Nepour.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Hello, Purple party in Las Vegas, sprinting out onto the
field Washington thirty four, Oregon thirty one.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I love this team, I love these coaches. I love
it all. I love everybody man, I love I love you,
love you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Learfield Sports on the call. The Huskies are headed to
the college football playoff. Joining us now in the hotline,
nobody we love more? Longtime college football insider, owner, editor
proprietor of College Footballnews dot com.
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Speaker 2 (02:00):
Speede few tech pete. What's happening? Bud?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Thank you for joining us on the night the PAC
twelve died. I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
But Lobby Brady on the call, it's time to change.
By the way, is it news that like you're viral
right now? You are across the Twitter verse the exverts.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, it's kind of a big deal.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah yeah, no, no, you're you've kind.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Of gone viral here. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah. The freezing cold takes kids caught a hold of uh,
you know, X of yours or a TwixT of yours whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's called twigs. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, because I said Washington by three no in this game,
and I turned out to be right on, so people
really want them, you know here.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I like I've been I've been freezing cold takes taken before,
and they took it, and I realized that you just
gotta have to like stay cool, okay, fine until the
turn off the idiots to get really actually mad at
that and just realize it's all in fun but like
not not like you are a lone wolf on then.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, nobody exactly, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I mean, look, I thought Washington would cover. I thought
they would make this close. I was like, poor Washington,
and I hope they just show off this little team
that you know, might be able to make him and
I thought they would come close and then lose it
late and Bonick's just never got it shut. But nobody
really had had this, And so now we get to
the point of this that hey, look for what I do.
(03:24):
I hope other teams upset others to make this interesting,
because like I want to send my kid in college,
but it might just be as easy as four teams
go thirteen and oho and win their conference championship and
we sleep in on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, look as someone who said Washington by three and
it's gonna be close, and they're gonna pull it out late.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Maybe they'll run the ball a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Uh, Pete watching this, this really surprised me because these
were two teams who are going in opposite directions. Look,
and yes, I get I'm watching myself go viral because
I picked Oregon in a route and I was very
loud about it.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's all right, it's all clicks for Fox Sports Radio.
It totally.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
This is this is because this is you didn't actually
do anything. Yeah, you're not gonna get canceled. No, actually,
you know, do anything wrong?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I picked a game wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
No, John Pudin hums you. The w history is greatest monsters.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That was the first guy to ever pick a game wrong.
But but but here's the thing is they were going
in opposite directions. Oregon was charging toward the playoff and
Washington was out of gas. And yet tonight the Huskies
were just Look, they were just one step ahead most
of the night. And then that's really what it was.
They were just one step ahead of Oregon, just a
little bit better. And you know that final play that
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first down. You know, the year fifty of watching football,
watching the dB not cover a wide receiver close enough
at the yardstick, and you know, Jayleen McMillan gets the
first down. I give watching a lot of credit, but
I did not see that coming for the Huskies.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Can I quick quick changing? Going away from this with
all the metrics and all the next gen death and
all the one zero percent chance of just like, why
can't anybody figure out when to take a knee?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Like it was driving me up a wall because they
I mean, you know, god bluck, because nobody knows, because
they're like, oh, well that helps Oregon because you know,
they got a penalty of stuff the clock. Yeah, but
it took nine seconds off. They had one time out left,
and they kept handing the ball off and if they
just took a knee ran the clock down, they'd have
to give up the ball with approximately like six seconds
(05:31):
to go, you know. So yeah, but that that outweighs
the risk of fumbling and giving it to back to
bow Knicks and two plays later you're out, Like, I
don't get why you can go do this? But this
all this game also showed another thing that's kind of
mixing in with the transfer portal. The other big story
in college football right now. All of these million dollar quarterbacks,
(05:51):
and I think if I when I run a college
football program, you can have a pretty good quarterback. But
get their linemen. Yeah, what what won this? Give me
Give me the Give me that left tackle who could
just shove, you know, Give me the big that big
defensive tackle in the middle for Washington who just ate
everything up against Bucky Irving. You know, get the big dudes.
(06:15):
I mean, because at the end of the day, what happened. Yeah,
Bo Nixon, Oregon are a whole lot of fun, but
they just got shoved in this game. They when they
absolutely had to, they said, we're not messing around here.
We go just bam. That offensive line of Washington just
got the job done.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Johnson twenty eight, two and two on the ground, I mean,
just right and good and sealed the deal. But we
were joking about it, you know, as it got to
halftime and Oregon was creeping back into the game. Uh,
I saw Pendis Junior go to the ground on a play,
you know, just kind of to avoid a hit. That
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was the first time I think is his jersey had
actually hit the turf at that point kind of amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I mean, that's the you know, that's the NFL's outing,
you know thing on him. It's like, Okay, he's great.
If he gets time, he's absolutely deadly. He's just a
couple of beautiful downfield shots. I mean, he just he
just has that ability. But you get he's not getting
pressured at all, and that's gonna be the tough part
from the scouts and going forward when you're talking about
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top five, tops ten. Pick is like, i mean, obviously
he's good. Obviously he's talented, but you know, under pressure,
he's fine. But he's a different quarterback you saw in
the third quarter when they get pressure on him and
be able to lay a finger on him.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Pete Futech with US College Footballnews dot Com Inside of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live the Tyreck
dot Com Studios. All Right, one more on Washington before
we get to tomorrow. Is this a Washington Husky team
that can do damage, make it far in the CFP,
play for the championship, win it, or is this a
team that, hey, Washington's been a good run. They're gonna
play Michigan, They're gonna play Georgia and that's gonna be it.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, this ties into what are we getting tomorrow? Like
here's where this gets fuck. First of all, obviously we're
going to carve out time for the amazing Conference USA
Championship with twelve hundred yards of offense. Yeah, seven hundred
and twenty yards of Liberty office.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That was.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That was fun. That was That was just a good
multi verse use of the multi multi view. But anyhow,
yeah they could because like, well, first of all, what
are we getting with the SEC championship game? Because that
means everything. So in this whole our overarching thing, if
Florida State wins, they're not going to say, hey we
have four thirteen and ozhero Power five Conference champions. If
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Georgia wins and leave out Florida State, They're just they're
not going to do it. It's it's I know there's
going to be arguments and say, all this team should
be better. I just don't think it'll happen. It would
just go against every sort of president. So like Texas
kind of got hosed in this because there's not really
a path now. They need Alabama to beat Georgia or
(08:56):
Texas has no chance because if Georgia wins, then what happens?
I mean, then, if Florida State is able to beat Louisville,
they're going to take the four thirteen and oh Power
five Conference champions and that's that, but not beating Oklahoma,
and that's just not quite good enough. So if Florida
State wins tomorrow and Georgia wins tomorrow, is game over.
(09:19):
If Florida State loses, then we get the I'm sorry.
If Alabama wins, then we get the argument is it
Georgia or Florida State? I mean this this gets funky
for Texas. So Texas long, long winded way of saying
the short they needed Oregon to win and it didn't happen.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Absolute chaos. Well what are you looking for? That Florida
State Louisville matchup? Two points and a hal.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
This is where the rest of SSU shows. I mean,
this is kind of what happened tonight with Washington is
kind of what I see Florida State being being like,
all right, you think we're doing enough on off Okay,
you know, just yes, our quarterback might be down to
our third string guy, but we also have the best,
better defense. We also have the guys on on the
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other skill spots, we have the offensive line. We're gonna
run the ball fifty times, go ahead and stop us.
And I think Florida State kind of comes out and
be just like, we're just gonna overcome our quarterback. And
I think the CFP narrative it's pretty easy, especially if
they are down to that third string guy. It's not Ronmger,
it's they able to say, look, you know, yeah, they're
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number two. Guy is out with the concussion, but a
month from now he's supposed to be fine, so you know,
they got through this. They're indefeat and let's see what
they can do in this thing. So I am looking
for I mean, but obviously then it all comes down
to the SEC Championship. That is everything I've done this far.
I still think Bama. I know this, Bama how Bama
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roles I've seen. I've just still got twenty twenty one
in my head. It's gonna be interesting. But if they
Aba Alabama wins that, then this gets really really funky.
If Georgia wins, it's gonna be pretty pretty basic stuff here.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Oh man, Pete, I AMMA wins.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
How do we get Alabama and Georgia in and Michigan
and we're kicking out Florida State. I mean, that is
the CFP. Do they want that? Do they want Alabama in?
Or do they Are they saying, hey, we need Georgia
to win this game so we don't have absolute anarchy
in chaos?
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I mean if if Alabama wins, then what do you
do because I let's say Alabama wins and let's say
Florida State loses. Okay, if the Florida State loses, then
that then what do you got? You've already got. We're
assuming a Michigan win. I think Michigan didn't even say lose.
But let's say, you know, let's say that clean Michigan wins,
no problems. So then if Alabama wins, then Michigan's the one,
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Washington's the two, Alabama's the three, and then you're the
argument comes down to Georgia who lost. Let's say, let's
assume Texas wins the Big Twelve championship like this, this whole,
this part of the Bay can be over by lunch
tomorrow for you guys, but uh, Texas can if Texas wins.
Are you taking Texas which wins their Big Twelve championship.
(11:59):
Are you taking Georgia now? You're assuming if Florida State loses,
like they have never ever taken a Power five championship
game loser over a Power five championship twelve and one winner.
So for them to put in Georgia just because over
Texas they can't. They can't say, hey, Texas, you won
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your Power five Conference championship. Georgia, didn't you beat Alabama
and you're out and the two SEC teams are in.
So basically, Washington winning tonight probably killed the idea of
two SEC teams getting in if Texas wins tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
See, but here's the thing, Pete, And this is what
I come back to and seeing when the CFP committee
director went on ESPN earlier this week and said, yeah,
Florida State undefeated, number four, different team without Jordan Travis
said it twice, different team without him.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I can easily see.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
After that, what are they gonna say after games tomorrow
and then on Sunday. Our job is not to pick
who had the best resume. Are not job as to
pick who bey who? Our job is to pick the
four best teams in the country Right now, Yeah, Alabama,
it doesn't matter because what are they gonna do.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
We have the twelve team playoff next year. Doesn't matter
next year.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
They say that, and then they don't. I mean, look
like you know, old Blue, you want to talk about freading
cold take. I think in that analysis thing is that
I think his his rationale was bo Nicks hits eighty
three percent of his passes. I think I think that
he actually said something to that effect. And here's the
thing you remember about the college football Playoff Committee. I
(13:34):
used to work with them. I've been in there, I've
done the process. I've gone through the whole thing. I've
stayed in grape Vine, that lovely place, a nice little
bakery there, nice place. The top line of everything is
did you win your conference championship? And they want the
other thing. The rules are loose. They specifically keep everything
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just a little bit, you know, vague, just in case
they want to wiggle room to some nuts around things.
But they have again, they have never ever left out
an undefeated Power five conference champion. And they only left
out Ohio State one year when they were twelve and
one because they got housed by Purdue and Notre Dame,
which is basically a Power five team, went undefeated. That's it.
(14:17):
They've never left out another twelve and one Power five
conference champions and they've never certainly I don't think are
going to ever leave out it undefeated Power five conference champs.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
He's on Twitter at pete few Tech. That is, at
peach few Tech College Football Insider. Check out everything you
need for Championship Saturday College Footballnews dot Com. Pete has
always man appreciated. And you'll feel good because I have
Louis Villain a route tomorrow, so you'll feel good for
a bit about Florida State.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Let's go, Hey, let's go. Hey, good for me, good
knock it out.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
See you buddy, have fun later.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, yeah, boy, let's fits my watching yourself go viral
first missing missing a game completely right. But the analysis
I think was probably like AI picked up by many
other sites already. It was a But the point is
(15:11):
we did the analysis, and I don't think there's anything.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Wrong with it, right, and I think it was echoed.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Just a matter of how deep you went down the
rabbit hole of stats, narrow victories, near misses, all of
those things like we did, others might have done at
more surface level.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Going Nah, you know, Oregon's just scored a lot of
BIX is great.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
We did the deep dive and you know what, Washington
heard it used it as bulletin boar material and they
rallied around it and they played.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
A hell of a game. That's all you can say.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
You know what, this tweet is much. I'm seeing gifts
that I haven't seen it for ever. Phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Look, man, there's a great Duff mcgagan song where he
just keeps yelling, we.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Win, we win, we went.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Keep keep pushing it, keep telling us how dumb Jason
and I to waiting.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
For the show's Jason exit.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
That's why I parenthetically added me exit swollen down the
Jason Smith.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Show with my best friend Mike Carmon. Yeah, oh look
at it. I love going by. You got the game wrong?
I did. We'll talk about it. Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Washington's into the playoff. Who could join them? Could we
see upsets? What about all upset special picks? Now you're
gonna want to go opposite me for everything?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Keep it right here. The Friday night fun is just starting.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
On the last night of the PAC twelve conference, they
had a good run.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Keep it right here. They did have a good Okay, yes,
they did have a good run, but.
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my Oregon will Oregon will smoke Washington prediction from earlier
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this week. And boy, I'll tell you this is this
is not a great last few minutes for me.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
On No, it's great.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Can we do another four really hot take videos that
go up before Tomorrow's game?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And people and people always say to me, hey, like
when Louisville is gonna win a route over f s
U Mike Song, Like, okay, so I picked Oregon in
a route over Washington and you know it was put
up is this week is an article and now it's
going viral because clearly I was wrong. And you know
the thing is people say to me all the time
(19:03):
and they always ask me, this is that, hey, when
you're wrong?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So if you're if you're wrong about something, is it
a big deal? And I go, I'm never wrong?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
What are you talking about you, He goes, well, if
you pick a game wrong, I go, Oh, if I
pick a game wrong, you know, you know everybody picks games.
No one really holds you down to it. You know,
it doesn't really matter. Nope, clearly I was wrong. Twenty
plus years in the business and I'm wrong. No, but
here's the thing, because our boss is going to be
mad you got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, keep click click click click click, And doesn't matter
if you're wrong.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
You know, if you're to rank them, this is like,
you know the Jets Jets games that are in the
two sixties and are top two seventy two of twenty
twenty three.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Is that yay? You watch them? They sucked? You move on.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, there's a lot of guys with extra commas in
their paychecks that say a lot of really stupid things
with some regularity.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
There's still employing. Oh you're right now, you picking a
game wrong. Ain't running you out of the chair? No? No,
well there's another few thousand right there.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Unless you start cursing about it and use some let
the expletives fly.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I can. I can never go to Seattle again. I can.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I know I picked them to go to the World
Series Jade Rod was the MVP. Neither of those things happened. Well,
for a while, he looked like he was he was
really gonna make a run, and then everybody else stopped
hitting when he did. Maybe now they're even, like they're
even with me now with Jason Smith, he picked Oregon.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
In a route.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I mean, here's well, then you did that thing where
they threw the fish tea and you dropped it and
caused all sorts of problems and make come on, this
is almost like an onion tweet because it's it's what
I Oregon will smoke Washington. They're gonna mush them, and
bo Nicks will win the Heisman Trophy because of it.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Is that why bo Nicks was, you know, in a
heap on the bench at the end of that game,
was because of.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You said, Yahoo's fault Jason Smith on me.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And I said it all I haven't said it today
in LA we talked about the death of the Big ten.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
It was on with Rodney.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Pack well as you know Northwestern beating number one for
new We talked.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
About the death of the death of the Pac twelve,
Theys and Oregon's gonna smoke Washington, use what They're gonna
blow them out? O, don't even the points lay whatever
you can not.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Apparently that was not the case.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
But let's go to Vegas right now. Bring in a
long time friend of the show, Vegas insider, former rons
maker at Caesar's. Check them out on CBS Look at
the Board podcast, Todd Furman.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Todd, what's happening, buddy?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (21:35):
I'm doing well, gentlemen. Hopefully you guys are holding up
on this fine Friday.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Oh yeah, you know me.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I just said Oregon's gonna crush the crap out of Washington,
and you know it didn't happen that way.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
So, I mean, look at ten point favorite loses all
the time in college football. I mean, it was a
side that took money from professional betters. There was a
real battle in that game. But you know you watched
Washington early on. Clearly they felt disrespected and put together
their most complete effort that we've seen, arguably since the
last time they these very same ducks up in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Now, wait a minute, Todd, look at Look at Todd
trying to make me maybe it's the holidays. I expected
time to go Smith. That's what happens when you make
stupid picks like you did.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That's what I know.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I mean, look, I mean here, sometimes you say some
things that are landish, and I'll cut you down at
peg or two. But this one. I mean, look, people
say things all the time about games, get them wrong,
and that's the nature of the business. I mean, at
ten point favorite loses every week in college football. I
don't think anybody thought Oregon would really struggle this much
to move the football offensively. And you've seen a seismic
shift in the Heisman Trophy odds as well as a
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result of the performance tonight.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
What's the turnout there?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I mean, obviously it looked like a nice jam packed
stadium at Allegiant.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Are they bringing their wallets to bet?
Speaker 7 (22:40):
I mean, usually when you get this kind of crowd
in town for a game like this, you're gonna get
folks that are stopping at some of the properties on
that side of the stripta put a little skin in
the game. And as far as the way this game was, bet,
I'll look, I mean, you saw a very good two
a action with a number that open and no man's
land north of a touchdown, and it just rough goes
to show that even when you start to adjust your
POWs based on current form, things can change. In the
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general public thought this was too many points and found
themselves on the Washington side and end up cashing that
ticket with relative.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Easy all right, tod, So we watch Washington when they're
in the college football playoffs to probably have other winning
in games. If I said to you the undefeated team
that's going down tomorrow, and you gotta give me somebody,
who do you give me?
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I mean, if you're looking at the teams that are undefeated,
I mean, this is a low hanging fruit that's out there,
it would be Georgia are the most likely to lose,
given the fact that it's a team only you know,
in that four and a half five point range. But
you know, I think Texas is going to have their
hands full against Oklahoma State. You have a team that
has nothing to lose out there. Coach Gundy's teams that
fared exceptionally well when they step up in class, both
from a straight up and ats standpoint. And I think
(23:46):
when you look at the way the Cowboys played against
Kansas State and Oklahoma earlier this year, while it may
not be easy, look Steve Sarkisian not afraid to let
him fear. Your teams hang around, So I think Oklahoma
State's got more than a puncher's chance to maybe spoil
the party for the long runs.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So you like Florida State, you didn't mention Florida State
and they could be down to Casey Weldon at quarterback.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I mean, this is a game right here that it's
not really an upset by any stretching the imagination with
Florida State at one point. Favorite. So flip a coin
in this game, and I think it'll hinge a little
bit more on what the Seminoles can do defensively in
this spot than anything else we've seen Adam Fuller really
try and mix things up defensively. Typically comes with a
vanilla game plan for the Seminoles early in games and
tries to get more exotic in the second half. But
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in this spot they may need to try and force
a short field, create a turnover. But there are a
lot of people that really believe in in Brock Glenn,
and this number got down to a pick them and
you saw Florida State money start to come into the market,
driving this back into that one one and a half range.
So people that want to eulogize Florida State already, I
think are doing so prematurely. And we'll see if this
team uses the injury around Jordan Travis and the potential
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concussion to Tay Roddamaker to really galvanize the troops and
complete their undefeated campaign, much like Washington did tonight.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
What are the odds that Iowa gets shut out?
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Not as great as anybody would think when you look
at their team total at seven and a half, heavily
shaded to the under. I mean, we got this matchup
in the Big Ten Championship two years ago and it
was Michigan winning forty two to three. So asking for
Iowa to get shut out here, I think the better
profit is which team will score score more points this weekend,
the Iowahawke eyes of the New York Jets. We'll step
both those over unders right around seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Hey, hey, I'm playing the Falcons.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Come on, dude, we're playing the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
We'll get your quarterback is still Tim Boyle, and the
fact that Jets fans thought he was going to be
an upgrade over Zach Wilson is one of those things
that leaves me scratching my head because we talked about before.
Zack Wilson may have thrown a pick on a hail
Mary at the end of the half, but he would
have had the athleticism to at least make the tackle,
unlike Tim Boyle.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Hey, every day that goes by, Aaron Rodgers is coming back.
Sooner and sooner. He's going to be the guy going
out there on Sunday. I'm not worried.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Yeah, I'm sure Aaron Rodgers eighteen to get back there
and take snap center center for a team that maybe
four and ten when he gets activated off by.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Our he's a medical Marvel.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
San Francisco Philadelphia Game of the Week San Francisco field
goal favorite Philly. Is there yeh question a motivation with
this one banged up and really you're still playing for January?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Does this one matter that much?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
I don't think motivation is a question at all, because
if San Francisco ends up beating Philly here and the
Eagles were to lose back to back games, their stranglehold
on having that number one seed in the NFC gets
to be perilously thin. So I think Philadelphia go out
there give it everything they have. Now if it's enough
to beat a forty nine Ers team that'll be well
rested coming in off the mini buy with revenge on
their mind. That's a much different story. I mean, this
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is an Eagles team with a point differential plus sixty
four this year, despite the ten to one record, will
be the first team with a record like that to
be a home underdog with their normal starting quarterbacks since
nineteen seventy. So historically relevant this weekend, and you can
understand why betters and oddsmakers are alike are a little
bit skeptical of a Philadelphia team that has been living
on the razor's edge with comeback wins against Kansas City
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and Buffalo, now playing their third game in thirteen days
or thereabouts.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
All Right, Todd, lastly, let's finish here because it may
be the last time we talk you before this happens.
If I said to you in the next next week,
we expect it to be done. Show Hao Tani will
have his new team. The team will be who, you
know what.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
I think he ends up with the Dodgers. I don't
think show Hey decides he wants to switch coast, and
I think he realizes that he can still keep his
current residence in Los Angeles, and we know the Dodgers
have no problem phoning up to cash. I feel that
makes the most logical sense if Showhi has enjoyed his
time in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Uh, Todd, justin Frostberg wants you to move in with
him now after that take.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
He loves he loves you, he loves you so much.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not quite sure that's that's the case.
But you know, frost may have a new job. He
may end up getting to be Brandon Staley's personal valet
and may have to be responsible for booking Staley's travel
if the Chargers lose on Sunday to the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
He's on Twitter at Todd Furman. That is, at Todd Furman.
Check him out to Bet the Board podcast former Rods
maker at Caesars on CBS as well. Todd is always
by the appreciate you with us on a Friday night
bet Thanks for hanging always.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
A pleasure, gentleman. Enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Thanks got you soon. It must have been the holidays.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Smith's a stupid ass making may hey, look it happens,
and it happens. It's college football. We see big, big
underdogs rise up.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, And I do want to say this.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I distinctly like the fact that you added me on
the tweet that that I picked Oregon to win on
and you added Washington football on there.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Hey, Washington football. See what my jackass co.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
Host do this?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I did? You did that?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Did?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Dude?
Speaker 8 (28:26):
We gotta put mic up on our shoulders.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
He added Washington football. I said, congratula Washington football.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
Yeah. Yeah, Well you add softy kJ.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
R Oh I should have. Yeah, I'll go back and
do it again.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Did you add Mark Brunel and Don James and Billy
jo Hoobrah.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
All the other guys illuminaries that were there? Shrimp was there?
Speaker 8 (28:47):
Does he still have the blonde mullet?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
He does spectacular? Yeah, check it out. Look at this.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I'm sorry that that that Northwestern didn't win on a
night where they could own the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Sick.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
It's early the basketball, it's early conference plans, all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But you succeed and proceed.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Take the w hard fought win in ot where they
had a big pow wow of all right, how do
we get the Purdue players off the floor in the
final seconds without them being mobbed by the student section
and everybody rushing the court.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
See things are going green and Purdue until Matt Painter
did an interview with us.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
It is his faulty. See it's your fault again. Go
see if we can find clips of that today Freezing
Gold Takes. I got another one.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
For you, Uh exit out about a Fresca exits swollen down.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon
coming up next. I am glad you are with us
tonight because we always talk about being able to break
down the end of an era, but it is a
very special night we're in is the end of an
absolute era, and you want to be with us to
talk about what's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Jason to Mike Fox.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith's
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Speaker 2 (30:04):
Why is Queen still playing? But juke Puck must have
been plugged in? Well unplugged. You want to go get
some sandwiches?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
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Speaker 6 (30:26):
Hey Alex, if he hadn't said it enough tonight, thank you?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You know once in a while when I thought, well,
he's really gonna play Mariah Carey. Oh no, no, no,
we're not kidding.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Wait did you thank the crew from five to seventy today?
I know because I filled it in five seventy in
LA today. I did not thank the crew today on Twitter.
I need to think why what happened? Just make sure
what you said precedent?
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Man?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I did, I did.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I forgot to think that I gotta thank everybody. I
think everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Everybody listen, especially thank you Jason, since thank you especially
Freezing cold takes yes.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Because I have closed the Pac twelve Back twelve is closed.
I've closed, I've locked the door. Nobody is inside, Jason.
There's a big sticker on the front saying closed.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Did you thank us at five seventy today?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
But I didn't thank them either. I didn't think anybody yet.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Maybe maybe I'm waiting till the end of the day,
the holiday season. Maybe I'm waiting till the end of
it nobody to thank everyone.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
He's gonna steal a a Fallon's bit and start doing
thank you notes.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I'm just not gonna than any thank you. Freezing Cold
takes all you ungrateful be.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Thank you editors at Freezing Cold Takes DJ, Thank.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You India, thank you, Providence, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Wow nicely done you Syracuse, thank you Northwestern, Thank you
Big Eiast nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
We say the phrase the end of an era all
the time, and we'll get into my my pick that
didn't work out a few minutes. Uh. We say the
end of an era all the time. But tonight was
the end of an era. And and for a long time.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I get these feelings sometimes we do shows that just
certain shows feel a little bit different because it's something
happening that is just you're never gonna capture again. And
it's the end of the PAC twelve. It's the end tonight.
The PAC twelve is closed.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
We talked about the PAC twelve died tonight it did.
This was the last night. The PAC twelve is done.
PAC twelve football is over a conference that everybody grew
up watching that. I'm still tonight. I'm that eight year
old kid that watched USC and the Rose Bowl for
the first time and Charles White go crazy. I thought
he was gonna be an absolute superstar in the NFL,
and and everything through the eighties and and the USC
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UCLA rivalry and Washington winning in the nineties with Don James,
and then you know USC and then UCLA's mini dynasty
they had in the mid nineties and suddenly watched USC
and Pete Carroll become the rock stars of college football
in the early two thousands, and then incredible gross mismanagement
of this conference for a decade. And now there's no
(32:56):
more PAC twelve. I mean it's done, it's over. I
mean certain things. Oh yeah, you'll have a certain amount
of time and then it's going to end for you
because nothing lasts forever. But that I ever think the
PAC twelve or the PAC ten when it was there,
was ever going to not be around. And now it's gone.
It's gone.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Well, but that's the thing, right is and we love
to bring our pop culture, you know, wisdom or stupidity,
depending on how you see it. When we talk about
movies and TV shows and everything else. Right we have
the blip, we go to the Marvel Universe, the snap,
the blip and all of that and everything vanishes.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's kind of how it feels with a lot of stuff.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Right as you get older, things disappear, but the college
sports landscape is just so ever evolving, like it's the
you know, time lapse photography. Right, this happened over a
thousand years. I showed it to you in six point
eight seconds. That's kind of what we've gotten here.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Right.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
You knew change was inevitable. We've been talking about super
conferences and all this forever. But all of a sudden
realignment and then the absolute implosion of a conference. Right,
the predominant West Coast Conference is gone. All of these
big schools with all these rich histories, the Heisman trophies
(34:15):
lined up, Reggie Bush's getting into the Hall of fair
How the hell does that make any sense? You took
the man's Heisman trophy, But now you're gonna welcome into
the Hall of Fay.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
But I digress. But we're watching all of this change.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
You add nil, you add all these different things, and
it's not the game you recognized anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
But to completely dissolve.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
What has been one of the biggest conferences, the maker
of so many stars all these years through the decades,
television stars, movie stars, broadcasting stars, and of course obviously
the guys that went into the league and starred for years.
And that's just gone. It's part of the history. And yes,
(34:56):
they live on and they move into different conferences, and yes,
it's becomes the education of hey, this is what that
team and the school was.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But it's it's just so different.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
And watching it tonight, all the mascots lined up, that's
the image that right, they're all down in that one
end zone and it's like this said said Meme, kind
of event of there we all are. We're all gonna
split and go our separate ways, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And this is the part that's frustrating is that it
didn't have to be this way. Sure, it's gross mismanagement.
Larry Scott and the Pac twelve leadership is what led
to today. And you could on the surface say, well,
who saw this coming, the realignment of college football, all
these things. I was to say, no, you and I
didn't need to see this.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
The people who are running the bleep in Pac twelve
needed to see it. But the problem is everything he did.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
But that's that's your job is to understand this is
where college football is going. This is how we need
to stay afloat, how we need to stay solvent and
be one of the big conferences standing because we should
be the biggest because we have an entire coast, and
that's what the frustrating part is that the leadership didn't
see this and now there's no more PAC twelve because
of that, when they should have been equal with the
(36:09):
SEC or the Big ten because they can have an
entire half of the country play in the pack two.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
So we always had the arguments and discussions of hey,
the East coast bias on this that the other.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
How do we gain more relevance? Oh wait, you need
a better TV package than what you created. Dopes coming
up next way, do we tell you what's going on
in Vegas right now? Following Washington's win over Oregon. It
is the night the PAC twelve died and
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