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December 2, 2023 • 42 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon close out the PAC-12 in style. Longtime NFL Insider Jason Cole drops in for all the BIG headlines heading into Week 13. And Washington improves to 13-0 after defeating Oregon 34-31 in the Pac-12 title game!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:49):
Might be on right now. Yeah, the Doctor Pepper halftime
give away. Throw the football through the Doctor Pepper cans
and yeah, win a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Hobbitage. Jeremiah getting after it in a route right now.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I think Jeremiah football, Yeah, but he could probably play
quarterback for Oregon.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
In the second half.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oregon in a route Mike, Now, listen, I got I
gotta say, listen, here we are, and I want, first
of all, I want all of you all to have
some respect because the PAC twelve dies tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I do like that. This is all y'all in. This
is the PAC twelve. This is the end of the
PAC twelve. Okay, that's like Texas and Southern expression. But
we got it all y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Jason, it was the end of the Pack twelve when
Larry Scott took over.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Get over, he walked in. He said, Hey, you know what,
We've got some land in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, but killed this thing a long time ago, Buddy,
tonight is the actual end though. It's the actual end
the Pack. The PAC twelve dies tonight, so have some respect.
And this game so far the Pack twelve championship game,
which is likely a winning in game. Just as I
said all week long, Washington in a route, Ah, I

(02:01):
don't need the ten points. Look at Washington, I said, Look,
watch they're gonna do to Oregon telling you watching, They're
not having hit the wall, they're not running out of gas.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oregon's living high on the hog. What did I tell you?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
It was good at It's exactly how the game is going.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Sure, Washington, right off the jump that field goal drive,
and it felt like a big air goes out of
the balloon kind of moment when they had to settle
for the field goal. Right the long protracted drive to
start fifteen plays, goes fifty four yards, takes up half
of the first quarter, and like, oh, I gotta settle
for a field goal. Yah, Hi, victory Oregon. There you go.

(02:38):
But here you go, Michael Pennick Junior, right right as
you came in, right as as Rob and Chris were
signing off. It was the first time all night I'd
seen anybody within like a giant halo of Michael Pennix Junior.
You want to talk about a clean jersey club, Hey,
let me just flip this ball down the field kind
of moment time after time after time. That's what she

(03:00):
just had tonight, clean placket club.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
It is a twenty to ten lead for the Huskies.
And yes, I said all week long, Oregon in a route,
I still have the rest of the Pac twelve. You
got thirty minutes of existence to try to get this back.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Now, does it start crumbling like Hinz Field did behind
Hines Ward as running running down towards zero.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Let's look, look, I said, Oregon a route. I got
to own it. And right now it's not happening. A boy,
if you're getting ten with washing, you're feeling really good.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, ridding the tea leaves though all week long you're
looking at it all right, Pennix Junior. A lot of
questions as to whether he's been injured these last couple
of weeks. Right, hasn't moved the same has hasn't had
the same fluidity in his throwing motion, Like a lot
of that has been hampered and they've been eking out wins.
So it's like, all right, the year of living dangerously?
When does it topple?

Speaker 1 (03:53):
They picked tonight, They picked tonight to not tonight, We're
gonna close the PAC twelve tonight, Pack twelve is claw.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Hear the speech that was giving you know what, we're
going down in style.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
You know what, They'll never add another name to the
black of champions in this conference, and I want ours
to be at the bottom.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Wrong.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'll tell you we're never gonna watch USC lose another game.
They shouldn't lose at night on a Saturday to Oregon
State never gonna the end of the Pac twelve and
washed in his closing.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
The door, the Arizonas don't get the screw things.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
No, Arizona's never gonna make the Rose Bowl out of
the back twelve. But look, the two biggest things that
surprised me so far in the first half of this game.
One you alluded to the first part at Michael Pennix
Junior has all day to throw, right, He's got all
day to throw, and when that happens, you got some
pretty good wide receivers that's going to go. I'm stunned

(04:45):
that they can't get more pressure on him. I'm stunned
about that for Oregon. And the other thing is that
it seems like it's close, right, it seems, but one
of the worst defensive pass interference calls you'll ever see
gave Oregon a first down that allowed them to score
a touchdown near the end of the half to go
into some kind of momentum. It's an awful pass interference call.
You have the wide receiver of the dB just have

(05:07):
hands on each other as they're running. There's no one
would know anything. The ball is overthrown and it's an
easy no call because nothing happened. Refs through the flag
that kept the drive alive for Oregon. They go in
for the touchdowns. So now they're in striking distance. Now
the pack Pack twelve is close. Pack twelve is we
have thirty minutes left. It's not a blow up. Want
people to watch till the end of the pack twelve.

(05:27):
Pack twelve is closing. We don't want people leaving early.
You're staying till the very end, very end tonight. So
those are the two biggest things. Is that it seems like, wow, okay,
washing its you watch. It had the better of the play,
but both these teams have electric offenses. Oregon needed that
play to not be going in a halftime saying, man,
we're two touchdowns, are worse behind, and Washington is just
working us. So I really, those are the two biggest

(05:49):
things surprised me so far in this game, because by
this point I expected Oregon to be up by two touchdowns.
I thought this would be a twenty four to seven game,
twenty four to ten game at halftime. And Oregon's off
to the races in the second half.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, I mean, you've seen with bo Nix some time to
throw and receivers just not getting and breaking containments as
we've seen on the other side, Washington finding space, scheming
it up to where you got penis J're throwing to
open air, right, I mean you've got the deep ball
that he hit down the left sideline, that was one

(06:22):
of those I got no pressure alright, and he just
lobbed it wide. Receiver gets behind the defender by a
good ten yards. Is he didn't get any help, and
you saw the defenders do the Spider Man meme in
real time. Anyway, We right, a couple of rushing efforts
down in the red zone, so getting a little bit

(06:43):
of contribution there as well. They've moved the ball well
already one hundred and ninety six yards of total offense.
Only stunned a little bit. They've got their four penalties
for thirty yards. But we've got a game, right. This
is why you know with Oregon why they were nine
and a half point favorite. As you're expecting there's an
explosion to be had to happen, right, A couple of

(07:04):
series doesn't a full game make. And and look, we
may be apologizing for the pick again as he second
half wears on, but they did limit despite the offense
and prowess of Washington. You take some moral victories in
those field goals that you forced.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
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on here and get ready to start the third quarter.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
And look, most likely this is a winning game.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Obviously, if Washington wins, they stay in probably for Oregon.
If they win, they get in the playoffs, and then yeah,
we close the PAC twelve.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
You think Herbs is excited about this one.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
This Oh well, he says, you know, the Thursday games
don't compare to his other games.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Okay, so you know, he just tried to make sure
he's excited Friday game. The same thing, a.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Friday Pac twelve championship game, same excitement as a Saturday
night game that even.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Was more excited him to call the game or people
to see his dog travels alone.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay, well, okay, number one, it's always the dog. Okay,
number two, it's Ben. He has a name.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
There's a lot. His name is Ben. He's Kirk name
is Ben. Paul's dude.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
That dog eats better than some humans. Okay, probably eats
better than I. You dog stays five Star hotels. I
just like, when do you see the dog calling the
second half of this game? He's probably he's just out
of camera shot right now with the headset on, just
ready for the call. He's gonna draft the Patriots next,
He's gonna fight Belichick's dog for supremacy.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I mean, look, this is a big show to be
with us tonight because again tonight we are closing the
Pac twelve. The Pack closed tonight, and I am glad.
You know what I'm glad about because I didn't know
which way it would be on this is that it's
a pretty good crowd at Reliant for the game. And
you know, I'm like, okay, well pretty much we talk
about Pack twelve championships. If it sticks in with we
made allegian history, allegian field, sorry, and it sticks in

(08:59):
with recent history. You know, there's only a couple thousand
people at the Back twelve Championship, but I'm glad to
see there's a lot of people tonight because they're going
out with the best.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Season arguably the PAC twelve has had overall.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
When you talk about how competitive they are and how
good they are, because you're talking about two teams who
could each.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Make the playoff. Now the winner of this game is
going to get in. It's a pretty big deal for
the PAC twelve. Now close it out in style. A
couple of monster teams that can put up points, a
couple of Heisman candidates here bo Nicks was the favorite
before the game kicked off.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I cursed him too, man, I told you bow Nick
is gonna win the Heisman. Se he still has the
second hand.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
No shit, he tried to go to the deep ball
because one of the things they did is they deferred,
you know, come the opening coin toss and everything, so
give up the long drive in the field goal and
everybody's mad about it on social media. Well they scored
that touchdown and now they get the ball first coming
out of the half. So in theory, if you believe
in a thing such as momentum, perhaps they can build

(10:00):
on how they closed out the half. But yeah, it's
the last it's the last. Answers it, man, this is
the halftime entertainment. Was that damn tuition battle which wasn't
a battle, Mohammad house.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
That guy was a tuition to a PAC twelve school.
It was one hundred grand.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Uh, It's yeah, that's all you could. You know they're
closing the schools too. No, dude, you know, no, the
schools always be there.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
You can buy the Mountain West for one hundred grand,
you can get like eight. You can buy the Mountain West.
You can own. Then you might be able to buy
the last vestiges of whatever, uh, whatever the intellectual properties
are of the PAC twelve conference. What's left in the offices.
I got one hundred grand. But it's you know what,
when you think about certain things, like your whole life

(10:43):
growing up a sports fan and the PAC ten and
how great it was and US and the Rose Bowl
was such a big granddaddy of them all. As me
growing up in the Midwest, I'm a big ten homer,
big ten honk. So every year it was all right,
who's gonna run past us? As they're playing in the room.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And then you go through the eighties and the USC
and UCLA rivalry, and Washington wins half of the national
championship in nineteen ninety, and you know, it's still SCUCLA
in the nineties, and but then you start see the
rise desert swarm in Arizona, Arizona State and Jake Plumber
and then the USC dynasty in the early two thousands,
and then Larry Scott mismanaging the conference for about a decade,

(11:24):
and you know, and then I get to the point
where I go, boy, I get to be on the
air and talk about it. I hope you had the
time of your I'm that ten year old kid, an
eight year old kid watching Charles White and the Rose
Bowl in nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
And now I got to talk about the end of
the conference. We get to blow it up at the
end like disco demolition. You hit a button and the
conference is over.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
You know, I think I want to get a statement
by the winning coach that that reminds me when when
Syracuse closed Manley field House and they went to the
Carrier Dome. The last game they played in Manley field House,
and I'm going back aways was against Georgetown.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
They're big runs, Manly Manly, Manly, Manley fields the Manly Man.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
We got Fran Brown. Now we're going undefeated. We're getting
all George's players. So the last game was against Georgetown
and Georgetown won. And John Thompson, legendary Georgetown coach, comes
in and first thing he says, the press conferences.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Manly Field Houses closed. It was a huge deal.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
But Manly Field Houses Club, we closed it right line.
We beat So I want the winning I want the
winning coach. Well, you know, whether it's you know where
it's landing or debor to.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Come out and say, hey, PAC twelve is closed and
where are the champs? Pack twelve is closed? We close
this conference blank, U USC and U C l A
and I we closed this thing. Why next? Was there
a giant extension cord? You know why? Why is it
connected there in the middle of the field. And he
goes and he just pulls the plug and the life
go off and that's the end of it. Either that

(12:54):
or they get to introduce that Mark Davis is bringing
back John Gruden and they announced him like a wrestler.
Does the winner of this game get to play the Raiders?

Speaker 6 (13:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
If Antonio Pierce is on the sideline, you can ask him.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
They actually get to go right to play for the Raiders,
to make the Raiders better?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
How about that? Yeah, Michael Pennis Junior, bo Nicks, who
who's peers grabbing right off the field.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
They'll play them both back and forth. They'll be like
spurry when he would YANKU quarterbacks. You're in for this series.
You're in for this series. So right now, Oregon is
taking the ball to start the second half. They go
for it on fourth and five near midfield and they convert.
Bo Nicks just completed the pass inside the Washington twenty
yard line. Oregon is in business there now inside the ten,

(13:38):
trailing the Huskies twenty to ten.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
They get on the board here with the touchdown. Suddenly
we got a brand new game. My Ducks fourth down
play was the same play they ran I think maybe
four or five plays earlier in the drive and the
receiver just didn't see the ball. Yeah, Like he finally
broke away from the other defender and the ball's landing
in front, like, oh, I'm opening them up. Oh the

(14:01):
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twelve dies tonight, poor twelve outs Coming up next, we'll
have more from this game again, Oregon threatening down ten

(14:37):
early in the third quarter, but we take a look
at what could be the NFC championship game. Get in
a preview of that this weekend. Keep it right here.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
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Speaker 2 (14:47):
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Speaker 1 (14:57):
Joining us now in the hotline to talk all the
latest news in the NFL. He is a longtime NFL insider.
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. He is
a Hall of Very Good voter. It is Jason Cole,
Jake Cole. What's happening, Bud.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
I'm just slow to the music. I'm grooving, baby grew man,
I am, I'm grooving. This is me. This is my stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Man, Hey, are you with us?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Because being the proud Stanford a lum that you are,
I mean, we get to close the door. The PAC
twelve dies tonight, We get to close the door in
the PAC twelve. I want to know if you're in
with us. We have a basketball season now, but PAC
twelve football closes tonight.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's a park we're closing. It's closed. The doors are closing.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Last time out.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
We're locking it up and throwing the key away.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
JCC baby, here we go, will remember you the biggest
idiots in the history of the planet. Let the greatest
conference in the college history just self destruct. Moron.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Hey, that's Conference of Champions. You're saying that I'm able
to self destruct and be terrible.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
God, I'm so angry, but you just you just flipped
the switch. I was like in a good mood. I was,
you know, cos grooving a little bit. I was going
to make fun of you and say, yeah, you're sounding
like the modern Jimmy the Greek, you know, talking about
your your at your your bets when they're happening in
real time. You know, Like I was going to do
a few things like that. But no, you had to

(16:31):
go to the end of the Pac twelve happening in
front of us right now and my team having to play.
It's it's now great great rival Florida State.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Oh man, you'll get Pittsburgh at college. Wait till all
those games come into You'll get sirrac I have to
play you.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
It'll be awesome.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
I like that you brought us back to nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
The Greek was in the eighties. He was, Yeah, did
not even get to the nineties.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
I forget what I was trying to give it him
an extra couple of years on the end date.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
No, My favorite on Jimmy is I still remember this
because it was just when I picked up on how
important gambling was and when he would have a really
bad morning and like he would you know, faith plant.
You know, he's writing his into his palm right there,
and he started talking about his bets and you're like,
what happened? I was gonna had a bad day. Yeah,

(17:29):
the morning wasn't so good. Had evidently evidently his inside
sources were not so strong going into the going into
those games.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, final year for was eighty eight when he was fired.
To think about how insane that was. The NFL was
so anti gambling for so long, but hey, on a
pregame show for a long we got that guy. He
had a professional gambler.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
Absolutely the guy who is the guy who picked the
the upset between the Jets and the Colts, right, So, yeah,
it's just that is a picture of him in the morning.
You know he'd be you know, he'd just been so
downtrodden if a couple of games went wrong. It's just
so great. The misery, the misery of Jimmy the Greek

(18:16):
getting games wrong. It's really a beautiful, beautiful thing to remember.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Producers in the host here going, don't go to Jimmy,
he's just mad.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Don't go to him. Don't get just finished out, he's
already chasing. Aren't going to be any good?

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Yeah, yeah, give us, give us more gumble, let's go
go away.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Well, in the spirit of that, we have two quarterbacks
who we're going.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
To form Burger more Mundburger hero in CD.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
He's only gonna subtly allude to the gambling. Hey we
got we got Joe Flacco and Matthew Stafford on Sunday.
Weren't they in games in nineteen eighty eight against each other?
I think they go back that far.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
This rivalry Stafford against too is against Joe Flacco. Yeah,
they were. That's that's a long time coming up basically
for those two. When I looked at the slate, though,
a slide from Flacco Stafford. Its just dreamy, you know,
the quarterback matchups we have. But there's only two games
on Sunday between teams with the winning records, and one

(19:18):
of them involves the Broncos. Like, you're like sitting here
going that's not really a good slate of games that
the league is trying to sell this weekend, is it.
That's not what you really want to be associated with. Now.
One of those games is fabulous, but it's the only
game that's fabulous on this this coming weekend.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
So how do you feel about that fabulous game? Well?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
I love that. I love that fabulous game. I do
think the forty nine ers probably with it because they're
they're not you know, the rest is coming off the by.
I think that it probably means more to them than
the Eagle at this point in time, because the Eagles
are you know, they've at least they put a little
distance between themselves and everybody else, and they're so banged

(20:08):
up right now that you get the feeling that they
might want to hold back a little bit. You know,
like if you really want to see Jordan Davis tear
that enormous hamstring off of his body, you know, like
something like that, you'd probably want to avoid that and
maybe get Dallas godd or you know healthy, that kind
of thing. Those would all those would all be helpful
things for you. And so you know, and the Eagles

(20:31):
also have had a great run here over the last
five weeks, but it's been a little bit precarious at times.
The Bill, the Bills should have taken him in that game.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Indeed, but finding ways to win, that's what they're they're
doing here. The year of living dangerously. Let's sit out
of the game's room moment. Go to the fun and
excitement that is the Carolina Panthers and the firing of Frank.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
Right, David, the courage of David dep that, you know,
to answer all questions except from Scott Fowler. It's just
a vis you know, I've known Scott fewer. There's no
one more vicious like Steve Thurby. Got nothing on nothing nothing,

(21:18):
yo mean, right now, Okay, you Fowler's got you know,
like Foward couldn't be a nicer human being like the
really I guess Sarah going to ask you a question please,
that kind of thing, you know, really the anti New
York journalist. And that's why he's a journalist in Charlotte.

(21:41):
You know, you know there's lots of Southern gentility going
on there, right and Dave Tepper is scared of him. Like,
Dave Tepper, you are so clueless about how you're running
your team right now. Not that Frank Reich is great, Okay, don't.
I'm not saying that Frank Wich's doing a great job
or did a great job, But you don't fire a
guy after eleven games when you have a rookie quarterback

(22:05):
and you're trying to figure out your rebuild your team
and you traded one of your best weapons in the
off season. Thank you Bears. But yeah, but like this
is not a plan, Like you're not following through and
executing a plan that's going to make the team better.
You're just getting back to step one, you know, right away,

(22:27):
because you're so dissatisfied and you feel like you're embarrassed,
and this is just a further indication, isn't it. Like
Tepper and all the things that he's done in Carolina
are just so willing, really and emotional, like walking away
from the people in rock Hill after they've built a facility,
like if you're if you're a Panther fan, Why would

(22:49):
you trust this guy at any point?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (22:52):
And so I'm just I'm just kind of stunned because
I thought when Tepper bought that team, you know, I
thought he had some ideas. I thought, you know, Okay,
this is a guy who you know, was part owner
of the Steelers, you know, probably learned a little bit
from the Rooneys, had a little patience, understood you know,
what to do. Instead, he's just this guy who makes

(23:15):
snap decisions left and right that don't follow any kind
of purpose or plan. And he's you know, he's got
the sort of football acumen of Dan Snyder.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Would it be really brilliant of someone to take this
as a first job knowing you're going to get a
giant check eleven to fifteen games later, and that no
other organization will take take it into an account, And
it would be like you never wear a head coach.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Oh absolutely, there's there's all sorts of like running backs
coaches in this league or lining up coming. I'll take
a shot. I'll go with it. Yeah, let me, let me,
let me add it, let me I can change your
team around. I mean, Dave wants that probably wants this job.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
No no, no, no, Jim, Tom sull is getting this jab
all the dogs are in place.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
Oh my god, Tom Sulla, Tom Sulla versus one stet
in a matchup of Pittsburgh morons. Like just think, really,
that's like it just got it. Doesn't get any dumber
in the coaching ranks than those two guys.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
So, you know, I gotta because I really did bring
you down. I brought you down with the death of
the Pac twelve for this, for that, I.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Really he really killed my buzz. I had the buzz going,
and you just it really yeah, it went to a
dark place. I mean, well you said, but you're asking
me about Frank Reich too. Fred Riick's a really really
nice guy, Okay, and he gets off by Tepper.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
It was a temper thing.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Nothing against Frank Reich, Yeah, I got no, yeah, Frank
Rice a Tepper. I just get really tired of of
NFL owners who you know, made you know, they made
their money doing something else and it became really rich

(25:05):
and they decided to buy a team. And then it's like, well,
I know football, No you don't, you really really don't.
You really don't understand how this game is supposed to
function and you don't understand how to turn things around,
and you've now made you know, you went out and
got really excited about Matt Ruhle, and then you got embarrassed.

(25:27):
And then he went and found a guy who actually
knows some things about football and who's trying to not
get your you know, five foot six quarterback killed in
the first year, right, But you took the five foot
six quarterback who I think can play a little bit, right,
but he's he's small, right, And Frank Reich was doing
everything in the world he could to make sure that

(25:49):
that guy did not get hit so many times that
he would end up like you know, David Carr in Houston, Right,
he's just trying. He's trying to make sure the guys protected.
For the first year. You're going to endure some you know,
some trouble here, but build an offensive line slowly but surely,
and then get to the point where you can you
can run some normal offense and you know, build a

(26:13):
team out with a normal offense. Now, what he's probably
gonna go do is go hire some guy who does
like spread for me. It's it'll be like you know,
somebody hiring Kip Kelly all over again, you know, and
not understanding that, you know, spread offensive guys are a
disaster in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
He's on Twitter at Jason Coles sixty two, that is
at Jason Gilter happy.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
Mister, happy God with people up with people guys right.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
He'll be watching the play on a loop on YouTube
the rest of the night. Tonight we talk about the
death of the back twelve.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, the play. You'll watch the play.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I mean, I know what happened against your team, but
it's the biggest play in college history.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
It is here. And the best part about that is
that we call time out with eight seconds left. And
we're a math in science school. That's always my favorite
thing about that. We get we get into field goal
position and l way Like looks at the sideline and
the coaches panic and oh, no, we need extra time

(27:23):
in case we bobble the snap right on the field. No, no,
you just run the field goal. And that's the way
you do it. Not don't call time out with eight
seconds left, call it with three seconds left. And my
buddy Paul Heidenreich looks right at me and goes, we're
going to have to kick off. Paul Heidrich, who is
doctor and By the way, he is doctor Paul heyden Right,

(27:46):
who works for the VA Hospital in Palo Alto and
at Stanford University. He's a scientist, a real scientist, knew
enough math to know you don't call time out with
eight seconds left. I can hear Paul heide Reich should
have been coaching Stamford. If Paul Heidenreich had been coaching

(28:06):
Stamford that day, we win. Right. Doctor Paul hyden Right, cardiologist,
famous cardiologist, a great cardiologist, saved one of my friends. Okay,
two of my friends as a matter of fact.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Wow, So he's in the Hall of Fame is cardiologists?
Not a hall of very good cardiologist?

Speaker 6 (28:25):
Clearly Hall of fame with cardiologist Paul Heidrich, Doctor Paul.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 1 (28:42):
Phil one slot in the college football playoffs and you
can give.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
It to the Washington Huskies. Hunson cuts up field.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
Oh, he's gonna go because the twenty five Cartyer he
slides down of the twenty five.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
The Huskies are gonna win.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
The Pop Talk Beatship Dylan Johnson did it.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
He picked up a first down and the Huskies are.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Going to the college football playoffs.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
Do you believe it?

Speaker 7 (29:09):
Huskys A nice bet for Kaylin Depour Purple party in
Las Vegas, sprinting out onto the field Washington thirty four,
Oregon thirty one.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
I love this team. I love these coaches, love it all.
I love everybody, man, I love it. I love you,
love you.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Learfield Sports on the call. The Huskies are headed to
the college football Playoff. Joining us now in the hotline,
nobody we love more. Longtime college football insider, owner, editor,
proprietor of College Footballnews dot com. You're one stop shopping
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could possibly need.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
It's Pete feutech pete. What's happening?

Speaker 6 (29:53):
Bud?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Thank you for joining us on the night the Pac
twelve died.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I appreciate them.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Love you, Brady. The Colt's time to change. By the way,
is it news that like you're viral right now? You
are across the Twitter verse the experts.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, it's kind of a big deal. Yeah yeah, no, no,
you're you're kind of gone viral here. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah. The freezing cold Takes. Kids caught a hold of uh,
you know, the X of yours or a TwixT of
yours whatever it's called twigs.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, yeah, because I said Washington by three no in
this game, and I turned out to be right on,
so people really want them here.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I like, I've been I've been freezing cold takes Taken
before and they and I realized that you just gotta
have to like stay cool, okay, fine until the turn
off the idiots to get really actually mad at that
and just realize it's all in fun, but like not
not like you were a lone wolf on.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
The exactly, you know.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
I mean, look, I thought Washington would cover. I thought
they would make this close. It's like poor Washington, and
I hope they just show off up this little team
that you know, might be able to make him and
I thought they would come close and then lose it
late and Bonix just never got his shut but nobody
really had had this, And so now we get to
the point of this that hey, look for what I do.

(31:15):
I hope other teams upset others to make this interesting,
because like I want to send my kid in college,
but it might just be as easy as four teams
go thirteen and oh and win their conference championship and
we sleep in on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Well, look as someone who said Washington by three and
it's going to be close, and they're gonna pull it
out late. Maybe they'll run the ball a little bit. Uh,
Pete watching this, this really surprised me because these were
two teams who are going in opposite directs. Look, and yes,
again I'm watching myself go viral because I picked Oregon
in a route and I was very loud about it.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
It's all right, it's all clicks for Fox Sports ration.
I love it totally.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
This is this is because this is as good as
you didn't actually do anything. Yeah, you're not gonna get canceled. No, actually,
you know do anything wrong. I picked a game wrong,
John pudin Hummas, you the wore history is greatest monsters.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
That was the first guy to ever pick a game wrong.
But but but here's the thing is they were going
in opposite directions. Oregon was charging toward the playoff and
Washington was out of gas. And yet tonight the Huskies
were just Look, they were just one step ahead most
of the night. And then that's really what it was.
They were just one step ahead of Oregon just a
little bit better. And you know that final play, that

(32:32):
first down, you know, the year fifty of watching football,
watching the dB not cover a wide receiver close enough
at the yardstick, and you know, Jayleen McMillan gets the
first down. I give watching a lot of credit, but
I did not see that coming for the Huskies.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
Can I quick changent?

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Going away from this? With all the metrics and all
the next gen steps and all the one zero percent chances,
it's like, why can't anybody figure out when to take
a knee?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Like it was driving me up a wall because they
I mean, you know, god bluck, because nobody knows, because
they're like, oh, well that helps Oregon because you know,
they got a penalty of stuff the clock. Yeah, but
it took nine seconds off. They had one time out left,
and they kept handing the ball off and if they
just took a knee ran the clock down, they'd have

(33:19):
to give up the ball with approximately like six seconds
to go, you know. So yeah, but that that outweighs
the risk of fumbling and giving it to back to
bow Knicks and two plays later you're out, Like, I
don't get why you can go do this. But this
all this game also showed another thing that's kind of
mixing in with the transfer portal, the other big story
in college football right now. All of these million dollar quarterbacks,

(33:42):
and I think if I when I run a college
football program, you could have a pretty good quarterback. But
get their linemen. Yeah, what what won this? Give me
Give me the guy, Give me that left tackle who
could just shove, you know, give me the big that
big defensive tackle in the middle for Washington who just
ate everything up against Bucky Irving. You know, they get

(34:05):
the big dudes. I mean because at the end of
the day, what happened. Yeah, Bo Nixon, Oregon are a
whole lot of fun, but they just got shoved in
this game. They when they absolutely had to, they said,
we're not messing around here.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
We go just bam.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
That offensive line of Washington just got the job done.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Johnson twenty eight two and two on the ground, I mean,
just missing right, I mean and good and sealed the deal.
But we were joking about it, you know, as it
got to halftime and Oregon was creeping back into the game. Uh,
I saw Pendis Junior go to the ground on a play.
You know, just kind of to avoid a hit. That

(34:43):
was the first time I think is his jersey had
actually hit the turf at that point.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Kind of amazing. I mean, that's the you know, that's
the NFL scouting you know thing on him. It's like, Okay,
he's great. If he gets time, he's absolutely deadly. He too,
just a couple of beautiful downfield shots. I mean, he
just he just has that ability. But you get he's
not getting pressured at all, and that's gonna be the
tough part from the scouts and going forward when you're

(35:08):
talking about top five, top ten, ish pick is like,
I mean, obviously he's good, Obviously he's talented, but you know,
under pressure, he's fine. But he's a different quarterback you
saw in the third quarter when they get pressure on
him and be able to lay a finger on him.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Pete fu Tech with US College Footballnews dot Com Inside
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carman Livethtyreck dot
Com Studios. All right, one more on Washington before we
get to tomorrow. Is this a Washington Husky team that
can do damage, make it far in the CFP play
for the championship, win it? Or is this a team
that Hey, Washington's's been a good run. They're gonna play Michigan.

(35:44):
They're gonna play Georgia and that's gonna be it.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Well, this ties into what are we getting tomorrow? Like
here's where this gets. Fuck. First of all, obviously we're
gonna carve out time for the amazing Conference USA Championship
with twelve hundred yards of offense. Yeah, seven hundred and
twenty yards of Liberty office with them.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
That was fun.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
That was That was just a good multiverse use of
the multi multi view. But anyhoy, uh yeah they could
because like, well, first of all, what are we getting
with the SEC championship game? Because that means everything so
in this whole are over arching thing. If Florida State wins,
they're not going to say hey we have four to
thirteen and oh Power five Conference champions. If Georgia wins

(36:23):
and leave out Florida State, They're just they're not going
to do it. It's it's I know there's going to
be arguments and say, oh this tea should be better.
I just don't think it'll happen. It would just go
against every sort of president. So like Texas kind of
got hosed in this because there's not really a pass now, Uh,
they need Alabama to beat Georgia or Texas has no

(36:45):
chance because if if Georgia wins, then what happens? I
mean then if Florida State is able to beat Louisville,
they're going to take the four thirteen and oh Power
five Conference champions and that's that, but not beat Oklahoma,
and that's it's not quite good enough. So if Florida
State wins tomorrow, Georgia wins tomorrow, is game over. If

(37:08):
Florida State loses, then we get the I'm sorry. If
Alabama wins, then we get the argument is it Georgia
or Florida State? I mean this this gets funky for Texas.
So Texas long, long winded way of saying the short
they needed Oregon to win and it didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Absolute chaos. Well what are you looking for? That Florida
State Louisville matchup two points and a half.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
This is where the rest of SSU shows. I mean,
this is kind of what happened tonight with Washington is
kind of what I see Florida State being being like,
all right, you think we're doing enough on off? Okay,
you know just yes, our quarterback might be down to
our third string guy, but we also have the best,
better defense. We also have the guys on on the

(37:50):
other skill spots, we have the offensive line. We're gonna
run the ball fifty times, go ahead and stop us.
And I think Florida State kind of comes out and
be just like, we're just gonna overcome our quarterback. And
I think that the CFP narrative, it's pretty easy. Especially
if they are down to that third string guy. It's
not Rockmaker's they able to say, look, you know, yeah,

(38:11):
they're number two guy is out with the concussion, but
a month from now he's supposed to be fine. So
you know, they got through this, they're undefeated, and let's
see what they can do in this thing. So I
am looking for I mean, but obviously then it all
comes down to the SEC Championship. That is everything I've
done this far. I still think Bama. I know this, Bama,

(38:32):
how Bama roles I've seen. I've just still got twenty
twenty one in my head. It's gonna be interesting. But
if they Alabama wins that, then this gets really really funky.
If Georgia wins, it's gonna be pretty pretty basic stuff here.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Oh man, Pete, I can't Alabama wins. How do we
get Alabama and Georgia in and Michigan and we're kicking
out Florida State?

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I mean that is the CFP. Do they want that?
Do they want Alabama in?

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Or do they Are they saying, hey, we need Georgia
to win this game so we don't have absolute anarchy
in chaos?

Speaker 6 (39:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (39:05):
I mean if Alabama wins, then what do you do
because like, let's say Alabama wins and let's say Florida
State loses. Okay, so Florida State loses, then that then
what do you got You've already got. We're assuming a
Michigan win. I think Michigan didn't even say lose. But
let's say, you know, let's say that clean Michigan wins,
no problems. So then if Alabama wins, then Michigan's the one,

(39:26):
Washington's the two, Alabama's the three, and then you're the
argument comes down to Georgia who lost. Let's say, let's
assume Texas wins the Big Twelve championship. Like this, this whole,
this part of the Bay can be over by lunch
tomorrow for you guys, but Texas can. If Texas wins,
are you're taking Texas, which wins their Big twelve championship?

(39:47):
Are you taking Georgia? Now we're assuming if Florida State loses,
like they have never ever taken a Power five championship
game loser over a Power five Championship twelve one winner.
So for them to put in Georgia just because over Texas,
they can't. They can't say, hey, Texas, you won your

(40:10):
Power five conference championship, Georgia, didn't you beat Alabama and
you're out and the two SEC teams are in. So basically,
Washington winning tonight probably killed the idea of two SEC
teams getting in if Texas wins tomorrow morning.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
See but here's the thing, Pete, And this is what
I come back to and seeing when the CFP committee
director went on ESPN earlier this week and said, yeah,
Florida State undefeated, number four, different team without Jordan Travis
said it twice, different team without him, I can easily
see after that, what are they gonna say after games
tomorrow and then on Sunday. Our job is not to
pick who had the best resume. Our job is not

(40:49):
to pick who beat who Our job is to pick
the four best teams in the country right now. Matter
the Texas State, Alabama, it doesn't matter, because what are
they gonna do? We have the twelve team playoff next year?
Don't they say that?

Speaker 5 (41:03):
And then they don't? I mean, like good old blue
you want talk about freeing cold take. I think in
that Announces saying is that I think his his rationale
was bone Nicks hits eighty three percent of his passes.
I think I think that he actually said something to
that effect. And here's the thing you remember about the
college football Playoff Committee. I used to work with them.

(41:24):
I've been in there, I've done the process. I've gone
through the whole thing. I've stayed in Grapevine, that lovely place,
a nice little bakery there, nice place. The top line
of everything is did you win your conference championship? And
they want the other thing. The rules are loose. They
specifically keep everything just a little bit in a vague

(41:46):
just in case they want to wiggle room to some
nuts around things. But they have again, they have never
ever left out an undefeated Power five conference champion, and
they only left out Ohio State one year when they
were twelve and once they got housed by Purdue and
Notre Dame, which is basically a Power five team, went undefeated.
That's it. They've never left out another twelve and one

(42:09):
Power five conference champions and they've never certainly, I don't
think are going to ever leave out it. Undefeated Power
five conference chef.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
He's on Twitter at pete few Tech. That is at
peach few Tech College Football Insider. Check out everything you
need for Championship Saturday college Footballnews dot Com. Pete has
always man appreciated. And you'll feel good because I have
Louisvillain a route tomorrow, so you'll feel good a bit
about Florida State.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Let's go, Hey, let's go.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
Hey, good for me. Good knock it out
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