December 8, 2023 • 43 mins
Jason Smith and Mike update Pelicans/Lakers and Thursday Night Football between the Patriots/Steelers. And Sean McDermott apologized for being an idiot! Fox Sports NFL Insider Jay Glazer chimes in with all the latest headlines going into Week 14. And the Lakers ARE BACK!
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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should be. Well, here we are Lakers Pelicans, the last game.
The winner gets into the finals of the in season tournament.
(01:00):
And oh, by the way, we have an NFL game
tonight that I was gonna hit the over any moment. Now,
all this under thirty points for the Patriots and the Steelers,
and hey man, this is twenty four to ten and a half. Time,
Wait a minute, we're seeing so twenty one, we're seeing
some points scored here. Now, yeah, we already hit the over.
I thought there was already two. No, I thought it
got to thirty two today. I thought, if.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You bet it at thirty two, you're an idiot, because
it was under thirty all week. It was at thirty
and a half or lower. So if you waited until
it and I didn't see that it went to thirty two,
But if it did and you're holding that ticket, you're
a dummy.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You're a dull.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Legitimately, if you had that price all week, record lows
like the temperatures will be in many of these cities,
including those participating here tonight on Thursday night football. That
if you waited until it rose, no, no, no, you're
banned from gambling or the or they should just send
a jet for you now because you may really bad decisions.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, I mean, look, it's that if you were watching Iowa,
you kept betting the under all the way along. You
kept winning, all right, so what why not? Of course
it's gonna work this way. Oh, Iowa kept going under,
kept going on. Of course this game is gonna be
under nope, not getting the under. Not getting the under
in this guy.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
No, I mean just because the colors are the same
as Iowa, this doesn't mean it always translates the same way.
I mean, did you see that dime that Kenny pickt
through to give you the over?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Too soon? Too soon, buddy.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I'm sorry, Mitchell Trubisky, too soon, buddy. I even took
Kenny Pick because I had him on the brain all
day long. Yeah, I guy, Mitchell Trubisky with the a
you you don't do math? That's so good? Yeah, your
math and and my name recognition. Uh, can we just
do get a due over?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
All right? So apparently Frostburg bet the over under at
thirty two. Uh we know that. And uh, you don't
nearly like Mitchell Trubisky as much as you say you do.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I love that throw. Well, No, I was arguing Cole
our buddy on Twitter already. He's like, ah, you know,
what's he even doing on the field. I'm like, did
you not see that throw? He goes, Yeah, The problem
is I saw the other ones. There's something to be
said for that. When your defense can basically set up
seven to eight yards off the line of scrimmage and No,
(03:18):
they don't have to backpedal because you're not gonna throw
it over the top.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So far in this game, we'll deal. We'll go at
the NFL game first. It has been the Bailey's Appy Show.
Two hundred yards, three touchdowns in the first half, Patriots
two and ten, and right now fans are going, well,
we're blowing our chains with the number one pick by
winning this game over the Steelers. Yeah, apparently Bill Belichick's deciding, well,
if I really want to get traded in the offseason,
(03:43):
I gotta start putting some good games on tape. Everybody's
watching this. It's a national game on Thursday night. All right,
I'm gonna coach tonight instead of tanking and everything going
on with I've been, instead of ruining the franchise, which
is what I've been doing for the last three plus
years since Brady left, No, I'm actually gonna try tonight. Hey,
look at what's going on right down the field for
a touchdown the first time they had the ball, twenty
one in the first half. Despite the fact they're missing
(04:05):
their best player, Ormandre Stevenson. This has been This has
been the Patriots awakening, and I really am Belichick has
now decided, Okay, I really need you know, my stock
is at an all time low. I gotta pump it
up if I'm gonna get traded. This is the Belichick
Thursday Night. Hey, it's okay to trade for me game.
That's what this is.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes, yeah, I thought it was the uh you know
now that you've gotten the good will because people are
on board with you saying, all right, you you really
can tank when you want, can't you? And he said, okay,
now I'm gonna put in Bailey Zappy and watch what
this offense can do. And Hunter Henry has been fantastic.
Ezekiel Elliott was great on that first drive. I just
(04:44):
wish I'd had the guts to start him in fantasy
like I recommend it on the iwatcher Flexat podcast. I
didn't follow my own advice. I had better options, but
it would have been nice to have a guy starting
on a Thursday night. Just I if I gotta watch it,
might as well a little skin in the game. But yeah,
for Bill Belichick, I mean, look, he's gonna do this
(05:05):
and that he's the guest picker for Army Navy on Saturday.
I mean, he's just living life.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Let's go, Bill Belichick, how do you see this game?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Maybe it's kind of well, one word and done, Thank you,
Bill appreciate.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Is that it? Yeah? All right, Hey that was Bill Belichick.
Everybody ever ready collapse for him. Yeah, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
But legitimately, the first question and the second question, maybe
the third is gonna be why the hell wasn't this
guy quarterbacking all along?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well, because well, let me tell you. Let me tell you,
Pete will tell you. So let me tell you about
Bill Belichick. And the reports today that were all about
what other NFL executives were saying about the compensation for
Belichick should he most likely leave the pages at the
end of this season, and a few gms and front
(05:54):
office execs said they could see the price tag getting
to be as much as a first round pick to
get Bill Belichick as your head coach. Right now here tonight,
the Patriots are out with their best game of the year.
You know, I tell you I go back and forth
every all the time. First of all, I say, I
don't know why you would want Bill Belichick because you're
not getting the Bill Bellie. Everybody sees Bill Belichick and thinks, oh,
(06:15):
it's going to like the Super Bowl years with Brady
all the time. No, it's the last three years without Brady.
How bad the team has been, and how much he
has pushed this team into disrepair because he's drafted poorly,
he has analyzed and broken down positions poorly, He's not
had the right coaches in position, He's not made great
decisions on the field. This is the guy who would
have been fired already, probably a year and a half ago.
(06:37):
But it's Bill Belichick, so he gets all the chances.
But I'm telling you, man, I keep going back and
forth with you know, he's lost his fastball. He's absolutely
lost his fastball. And he's not the same guy too.
Maybe he is really to Maybe he just doesn't want
anybody to Brady left and everybody hates the fact Bradley
they all blame me. So you know what, if I
can't win, nobody gets to win. So now no, So
(06:59):
now we're going to be a bad team for three
years to I find my way out, go someplace elsewhere,
because I really can't believe that suddenly he has lost
the art of coaching overnight like he has. And yes,
he did have the plays with Spygate, he did have
Tom Brady, who covered up a lot of things. But boy,
this has been such a fast and precipitous fall for
Bill Belichick. I almost feel either he's lost his fastball,
(07:19):
which is bad, or he's really tanking and saying we're
not trying to win because I don't want to win.
I don't care about it, just going through the motions,
which I can't believe he's doing that either. But one
of those things is what's happening now? And I see
tonight that here are the Patriots playing their best game
of the season. Offense looks great, their defense is fantastic.
They're stopping Pittsburgh from running the football. Trubisky's had a
couple of scrambles, which has helped them out a little bit,
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but they're stopped them offensively. And yet wait, but they
can't win more games than this. And this is a
Pittsburgh team that's pretty good. Despite the fact they have
bad quarterback issues and Trubisky is not very good, this
is still a good team that's found a way to
win games, that's run the ball well, and Najie Harris
has played well the last few weeks, and Jalen Warren's
been really good and they found a way to do
it and score on points and the change on offense
(08:02):
from the offensive coordinator, Hey, four hundred yards two weeks ago.
Things are great, And now this is what's happening on
Thursday night. It's like is he trying now? Like, really
is he trying? Now? He's saying it's safe to trade
for me, everybody, it is safe to trade for me
in the off season.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Well, the trade compensation is a fun little piece and
wrinkle to it, all right, in terms of what you
believe Belichick is. I've still tried to keep that separation
of church and state between Belichick the coach once the
fifty three has been decided versus the guy that's deciding
the fifty three, because that guy's been pretty bad in
(08:36):
many many spots. Yeah, but the coach, I mean, look
what the defense is, even with J. C. Jackson, who
is really one of the guys I want to thirty
for thirty on this guy, all right, he's all world.
Gets the contract with the Chargers once they tell him
to beat it to Lesco's like, yeah, that was a mistake.
(08:56):
And then he comes back and it hasn't been all sunshine,
and you know, lollipops and rainbows as a member of
the Patriots because he'd been left home, right, Remember they
went overseas, they left him at home. So and then
he comes back out and he's playing good football here.
So that that's a great enigma to it. But the
defense has been lights out. You could put anything offensively
together that it makes sense. And even go back to
(09:19):
last year, Eh, you were a defensive guy, right A
want you bear our offensive corner? Go do that? Uh
ond that workout is a disaster. And then this year
Mac Jones Alabama. Mack was supposed to be back, but
guess what, you still had a bunch of busters on
the outside. Although Douglas looked pretty good in spots, and
you got a three headed monster at tight end. Well
(09:40):
most of those guys. Those guys haven't been healthy all year.
And Hunter Henry when he did in what he is,
you look at what a red zone target he is
as he you know, had that great That second touchdown
catch was tremendous. That ball should have been tipped away
or or intercepted. But that's a whole other thing. It
all counts just the same in the box score. But
the coach, I don't deny that. I think he's a
(10:03):
good coach to the other stuff. Someone needs to, you know,
take the reins on actually picking the players, for.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Everybody picked the guys before, though nobody else was picking
the players during the dynasty, he was picking.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
But Tom Brady wipes margins of error.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, I mean, but okay, but.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Right, but when we talk about just the difference of
you know, what we're lining up around. If you've got
a quarterback, then then that range becomes a lot bigger.
The variability of how good the wide receivers are. Now
it's just all right, can you get into the spot?
Can you be U? Can you work through the route
tree and work on your timing? With Brady, you didn't
(10:42):
have to be great. And I take nothing away from
those receivers. All of those guys played their role. And
obviously Gronkowski, you know, our guy was fantastic. Right, But
when you have a quarterback, and we see it all
across the league, you got a guy that can make plays,
it erases a lot of ills really fast.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Jeez. Yeah, but at this I've seen the last three
years is what you're gonna get.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You don't get in the way back machine and look
coaching can be like playing, where you lose your edge,
you lose the effectiveness that you were. And whether he
whether he has decided, I don't care if anybody wins
or I've lost my edge. Yeah, I got no interest.
Bill Belichick's available, that's great, good luck. You go get him.
You go pay a first round pick to go get
him and see how much better things are there. See
(11:26):
if he does better picking the groceries and and and
getting a good team on the field. He's had chances.
He had chances, he had draft picks, he had free agency,
he's had everything.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
But to pick. Yeah, but doesn't that it's all about
beating Mike Tomlin. He decided, and he was on the
graphic he had tonight it is. He was on the ground.
You're right, he was.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
He knew tonight had to be a big night. But
he was a guy that wanted Alabama. Mac. Now, Mac
Jones is the guy. Mac Jones is the guy. We're
taking him in the first round. He's the guy. These
are all his decisions. So yeah, well, you know, well
you look at it and go, Okay, I see the
career he's had. Yeah, you know, I mean, I remember
when Joe Gibbs came back after he was coaching for
so long. I mean, I'm sorry, not that I think
(12:08):
he would show up at Jets and do any worse.
But still, if I'm another team in the NFL, it's
gonna be Hey, you're paying them a lot of money
and I'm giving up a first round pick, and there's
coaches i'd give up a first round pick for. I
would have done that for Belichick, but I'm not doing
it now. You would do that right now?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Oh well, Robert, Yeah, Well have your quarterback right, You've
got you know, Aaron Rodgers against Science. You've got a
couple of good skilled position guys. You got a pretty
good tight end in Conklin. Go figure out the offensive line,
that defense with that guy coaching it. Come on, Nah, Still,
all these years later, he can walk back to the podium. Look,
(12:44):
I taped together that napkin that I ripped up all
those years ago. He would go. There's not much he
wouldn't do.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
He would just sabotage us. You thought this looks bad.
Why see the people he's traded. I've traded Breesol and
Garrett Wilson to the Chargers in exchange for Isaiah Spiller.
Wait what Yeah, yeah, that went down. Sorry, we really
like Isaiah Spiller, so we're gonna go get No. No,
he would just sabotage Jets because he hates them.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
He wouldn't say this if we could somehow make this
work just for reality television sake, where he had to
work with David Tepper for one year and you just
stop over before he goes to the Vikings, you know,
before you can go pick your new spot, you have
to go to a team that's really bad with an
(13:30):
owner you hate you after a week.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I'm not saying it won't be interesting and that wouldn't
be fun, but I don't want him as a I
don't want him. Come on, man, you no white though,
are you kidd he'd bring Bill O'Brien with him. Forget it, man,
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
As he doesn't have the ability to hit the red
plunger that says trade this man, It'll be okay. You
want him for a day?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Oh too soon? Oh yeah, too soon, too soon, Although
it would be longer than Aaron Rodgers with the Jets,
so there would be that was five yeah, no, yeah,
I can't believe I'm saying that, like five years ago.
He said to me, if you could get Bill Belichick
and it's only a first round pick, I would have
said yes. Now I'm like, no way, no way, keep him.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Good luck, good luck, well, especially now that you've played
your way into the top ten.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Good luck. Yeah. But now we got Zach Wilson is
back again, you know. So it's fine. It's because he
all it's all gonna work out.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Is he really back?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Somebody's got to take the snap. But to start the game,
can't just snap it right to Breese Hall or Garrett Wilson,
Although that might be.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
An remember the timeline of everything leaking and then them
cutting the guy that started Sunday.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Kid you not. When we played you guys, your best
play was a direct snap to Breese Hall. Yeah, oh yeah,
it was yeah yeah. And our best player was our punter.
Just like most of the season's been, it's been very good.
It's what a great year. I still and you know,
and I still don't want Belichick. I still don't want him.
He'd make it even worse, even worse. Twenty one to ten.
Patriots lead the Steelers right now. They have the football
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midway through the third quarter, though they are punting Bailey
Zappy was just sacked on third down, so the Steelers
end Mitch Trubisky will get the ball back. Meanwhile, Lakers
and the Pelicans. Lakers lead this one. Remember the winner
goes to the finals of the in season tournament. About
two minutes ago before halftime, fifty seven to fifty one,
(15:19):
Lebron shot out of a cannon tonight. He has nineteen already.
He is the only player in double figures in the game.
He is seven out of nine from the floor and
three out of three from three point range. Lebron wants
the end season Tournament Pat O'Brien Trophy. He wants it man,
he wants that trophy.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
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Speaker 1 (15:45):
So under four minutes ago in the fourth quarter, it
is still the Patriots up over the Steelers by a
field goal twenty one to eighteen. They have the football. Meanwhile,
they may have to stop Lakers pellow kids at the
end of the third quarter. Lakers have started off the
third quarter on a twenty six to ten run.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Throw the damn towel.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
They lead New Orleans ninety four sixty four. It is
a thirty point lead. The Lakers want this in season
tournament title. Mike Hartman. They want it bad. They want
it worse than anybody.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Well, if you get a little bit of rest in now,
I mean, the night is young at Thursday night in Vegas,
let's go man.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well, I'll tell you this. Lebron has been spectacular tonight.
Thirty points so far, eight assists, He's hit all four
of his threes. Just to throw this out there, because
this is kind of interesting, right. The championship game is Saturday.
With a thirty point leader over the Pelicans, I feel
pretty safe saying the Lakers are going to play the
Pacers for the end season tournament, the Patt O'Brien Trophy.
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Lebron has said, hey guys, when Bronni makes his USC debut,
I'll see you later, like I'll catch up with you
another time. Bronni is supposedly, according to USA Today, set
to make his debut for USC this weekend on Sunday. Yep, Sunday,
So USC plays on Sunday. A bit of four tuit
(17:11):
is scheduling right there, so Lebron can play in the
championship on Saturday and then attend Bronny's first game against USC,
which again likely gonna happen on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Works out quite nicely, now, doesn't it. And figure I
had that game.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Moved you think see beginning of the year, saw the
n season tournaments, said, Okay, that's a title I can win.
I want to win this thing. When is the championship game?
It's sad Saturday, the ninth. Okay, uh, USC, you schedule play?
Said yeah, yeah, we got a big game Saturay and
that Yeah, I need you to move that game to
the tenth. Yeah, move, let's move. Okay, great, moveing to
(17:46):
the tenth. Great, awesome, move that game to the tenth. Terrific.
We feel pretty good. All right, great, now I can
make it. Don't have to worry about it works out?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Okay, I mean right, you'll play on the I mean
that'll be the ninth on Saturday, and then Sunday Bronny plays.
They don't play again nil Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, it works out. It's all set to go a.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Couple of days to enjoy Bronni's return to the court
and rest and then maybe get some more rests saying look,
I gave you a full tournament. I mean, what do
you want from me?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I just I just before. First of all, we're not
going to see Lebron until after the All Star Game.
I mean, come on, he wins and forget it, he's done.
We're not seeing him again.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Well, I don't know what I mean. Those upstart Spurs
come in on Wednesday. I want to see they're in
San Antonio Wednesday. Fifteen losses in a row. Smith, Yeah, yeah, no,
that's not it's not good, Jason. They might lose twenty
in a row after Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Oh man, I'll tell you. I want to know because
I haven't looked at this. I want to see where
how many just how many times the Lakers and USC
basketball overlap this season? You know, knowing going in it
was going to be Bronni's first year, Like suddenly are
there like no days where the Lakers are playing and
Bronni is playing? Like I want to see, like how
(18:56):
many how many conflicts were there that made that you
could say, oh, Lebron made a fire, Let's schedule this
game here, We're gonna play this game here in this
game here, this game here. I want to know. I
really want to know that that's really I haven't looked,
so I just throw that out there. But I want
to know because that's interesting to me.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Here's a video evidence of Lebron James sitting with the
schedule makers.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Big it's gonna work. You just see the big red
xes on. Some games.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Can't make work.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Televised game we want to have. You got that?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
A big update from NFL before we get into the
Juan Soto trade. UH, fourth and two and Mitchell Trubisky
lofts up a fifty to fifty ball deep for Deontay Johnson.
The pass isn't even close. It falls in complete. Johnson
wanted a flag, didn't look like a flag was warranted.
(19:55):
So now the Patriots take over up by a field
goal with less than two minutes left go. The Steelers
can stop the clock one more time. So barring disaster,
this looks like it's gonna be the end of a
great day for Bill Belichick showing other teams in the NFL. Hey,
I still got it as a coach. You can trade
for me in the offseason. I know everybody watches Thursday Night.
I saved my best game for tonight. All the other
(20:16):
games I stunk at now, I'm not really trying, but
tonight I'm trying. So this is what I want because
I can't stand Bob Kraft. I can't stand all the fans.
I think was Brady was the reason behind this dynasty.
So I've been tanking for three years. But tonight I'm trying.
So you know it's free to It's okay to come
get me. I can coach your team and be successful
next season.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Nationally televised game, everybody complained, Oh we got the Patriots
and Steelers. We got a thriller, and you know what,
it was close late. That's what we want.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
As far as that last pass, I don't think it
was so woefully and horribly thrown as you allege. I
need to see another replay because I'd like to see
the reverse angle as to the where the hands were
on Deontay Johnson because you know, it looks like he's
got of fighting through. Not to trying to say I
want flags thrown anywhere, because I mean, let's dud stop.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Mitchell Trubisky threw a bad pad. You gotta start, you
got you can't die on the Mitch Trubisky hill. Dying.
You gotta pick a different hill to die on.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It's not dying on the Trubisky. Come on, sive that again.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I gotta see that play again before I find it
was a bad throw by Mitchell Trubisky. Dude, come on, man,
come on, you got to give that up.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
You got to give up more about bad throws or
inactivity than anyone who knows more about Normally, I should
defer to you, but my watch particular instance, I saw
the play. I saw the one angle day shown as
a as a highlight, but they immediately morphed into all right,
get the reaction from Trubisky, so we didn't even get
to see it go all the way through it.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Trust me. Do you think I'm lying when I said
because you hate Mitchell Trubisky, I have to, dude, and
you hate policheck, so this is the worst. Can't tell
you how much time be I do not spend thinking
about Mitchell Trubisky because the guy's not good. So I
don't spend time thinking.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
About the best quarterback on your rock.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Your you's still at well. Look you would be the
best quarterback and you can't even throw the football anymore.
We have a catch of the nerf ball in the studio.
You got to throw it underhand, you'd still be the
best squad. I'm sorry, you'd be the second best behind everything. Yeah,
it'd be ripping and then fourth quarterbacks. That's what would be.
Uh so again right now, under two minutes left to go,
Patriots with the three point lead. We'll have Jay Glazer
(22:22):
coming up at the conclusion of this game to break
it all down for us. Meanwhile, Day two, the day
after the big Wan Sodo trade that has just stunned
the Major League Baseball world, the Yankees get Juan Soto
and there's two big things you know, in the last
to break down that I don't think you've heard people
talk about as far as this trade. I love it
(22:43):
and I hate it.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I hate it obviously because being a Mets fan, now
I gotta watch the Yankees and Juan Soto, you know,
be terrific for a while. But I love it because
it turns the Yankees back into the Yankees right a
team they've made two trades in the last three days
where they've traded fourteen prospects for two players, actually three.
They got Trent Grishaman as well.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I'm not happy to see Beauty Show is what we
talked about last night. Baby.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So this is great because the Yankees are turning back
into the Yankees. The Yankees are more fun when they're
the swagger ishus. Hey, we'll go out buy anybody we
want to and figure it out. Because make no mistake,
they did not trade five guys who could and three
of them could turn out to be really good. They
did not do that if they didn't know we're gonna
sign Juan Soto long term in the offseason. Now it
(23:30):
may be a little bit because they gotta find a
way to divest themselves of John Carlos Stanton's contract. They
gotta free up some other money, which they'll need to
but they have time to do it. And Wan Soto's
gonna want to stay, he's gonna want to resign, He's
gonna want to be a Yankee. So I have no
doubt in my mind that he's gonna be a Yankee
for a while, right, And it's gonna be a five
whatever it is, five years, seven years, ten years. A
(23:50):
guy's twenty five years old, right, So I hate it
because I gotta watch him be this guy in New
York for a long time. But I love it because
it turns the Yankees into the Yankees. But let me
just give you the other side of this first second,
because this is this is something that I thought about
when it happened. All Right, One SODA's terrific player. I
don't think there's any argument there. There's no argument with
One Soda being as good as he is, right, the
(24:11):
guy is the guy is a lifetime The averages thirty
home runs and about one hundred runs bad in a year.
He hits about two to eighty. Now, there's a lot
of guys who can do that, but One Soda is
pretty consistent with that. He's a really good player. Is
he gonna be worth the money that they have to
pay him? No, but it's not my money. But here's
my thing. One Soda is really really good, Right, One
(24:34):
Soda is a really good player, and he's so good
and everybody wants him. Why is the guy now going
to be on his third team before the age of
twenty five? Because that's the thing, right, If he's that
good and everybody wants him, why is he now going
to be on his third team by the age of
twenty five? And you can site her and tell me, well,
he wanted more money the Nationals didn't want to sign
The national has money to sign him. They didn't. They
(24:55):
didn't pay Bryce Harper. They had money to give one
soda if they wanted to. Well, the Padres. Padres could
have given him a lot of money. They had other
guys they decided. They could have given him money. They
could have traded somebody else. They could have moved on.
They could have given him some kind of contract. They
could have traded to tease. They they could have figured
out once so over the course of the next three months,
they could have done all these things. And now the
Yankees have him as good as he is right. Three
(25:17):
time All Star finished fifth in MVP voting in twenty twenty.
Why is he on his third team by the age
of twenty five? And it's not always just gonna be about, well,
someone's gonna pay him at some point, So we got
to move on from him before we can have that happen.
The Padres got him, and it was a great deal
at the time because it was we're gonna have him
for three Pennant drives before we can move on. It
(25:38):
turns out no. Two because they had to make a deal. Now, yes,
where they're extenuating circumstances, the tragic story of their their
owner passing away, and there's a lot of you know,
there's a lot of stuff happening now as far as
what do we do, how do we move on? But
in the end, you know, for Soto, this is still
his third team and he's not even twenty five. And
for a guy like that, it makes me stop and
(25:58):
go just why is that? Like, like, why could nobody
why could neither of these teams make up enough money
or put enough money forward to keep this guy or
give them a long term deal because players like Jan
Soto are getting three hundred million dollar contracts. They were
getting these kinds of deals and teams could do that.
Clear the padres, okay with take game to everybody. You know,
the Nationals could have done. All these things could happen.
(26:18):
But yet instead Soto's now on his third team. So
that's a bit of a thing. And that's a question
that you can't really just dismiss and say, Okay, we're
throwing this out the window.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
No, it's certainly something to ponder, right in terms of
what's going on within the organization and what you I mean, look,
maybe we'll wait four years and we'll get a full
accounting like we did in that doug that Sean McDermott
thing I wanted to say, Dougie mcbuggets Sean McDermott story, right,
that we talked about last hour in terms of, you know,
(26:49):
his different motivational tactics that maybe you'll find out behind
the scenes what's really going on and whatever discord might
have been there between the star of the squad for
the padres. Yeah, a lot of different circumstances. We know
about the loan they had to take and the passing
of the owner, all of those things right minded, right thought,
(27:11):
forward thinking, and then a conversion of circumstance that leads
to this trade and not a full on rebuild, but
at least for portions of it. I go back to
our conversations, you and I have been doing this a minute.
When you add your great love of yo Anacespidus, right,
and he was the guy, it's like, wow, look at
(27:32):
what he's doing, look at all the power numbers, and
then he was bouncing around like a pinball, And what
did I tell you? Yeah, there's something more to that, right,
We don't know what the story is yet with Juan soda.
We don't, but certainly from a stats perspective, you could
replace those. You can replace what he's been putting out.
Has he been consistent through the early part of his career. Sure,
but it's not other worldly numbers that can't be attained
(27:57):
or that you can't cobble together by having maybe a
better hitting catcher or short stop here and there. Right,
So you move on and let someone else pay the
piper for that production and for the Yankees to your point,
you know, as this was breaking a little bit last night, Yeah,
Carrie Rhodes, who's a big Yankees fan, he was doing
(28:18):
you know, the peacock walk around here as that news
went down. Fenley looked frustrated, kind of happy, you know,
Padre's guy. But for me, it was very much about
the All right, the Yankees did something. Brian Cashman, listen
to everybody that cursed him out as he walked around Manhattan.
You better do something. You want to keep that job.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
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Speaker 1 (28:46):
Joining us now on the hotline to break it all down.
Nobody better longtime NFL on Fox insider Jay Glazer, Jay,
what's happening to man? Happy?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Honka? What's so hard?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Welcome in, dude, Jackie.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Yet you watched this whole game? Wow?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
You didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I suffered through this game.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeh Hey, but they hit the over Jay, come.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
On, which we definitely didn't expect. I mean, I will
say that, like going into it, I could see how,
like man, the Patriots defference actually played well this year,
and how this is going to be a bad matchup
for Pittsburgh just their offenses. Doesn't matter who's calling and plays,
the scheme just doesn't work. You know. Obviously Mike Tomlin's
gonna have to overhaul their entire office for having Trubisky
in there. Well, I could see that. I was. I
(29:32):
was very surprised that Belly's OPTI got off from the
Steelers defense three times early on.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's it's really weird, Jay, because you know, the Patriots
have this season where everything is going on, everything's going on,
and then here's Belichick on a Thursday night suddenly in
the like in the wave, like when we get a quarterback,
I have a perform while we haven't seen this out
of this guy in like five years, Like, hey, we
haven't seen a Belichick team out coach and out manage
and out do a team like this in quite a while,
like we saw tonight.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Well, I don't know so much. I think he did
for the first you know, for the first quarter and
then you Stiller obviously wiped out and a whole you know,
huge deficit over there. So I don't know about that.
And it's interesting because you always see my commins, same thing,
like his teams are always coming back. So he makes
he makes, you know, later game adjustments better, better than
anybody in the league. But again, you look at their
(30:18):
offense and just you know, they had a bad scheme
with that Canada and to try to fix things and
move things in a different direction of better communication and
what's the worry? He told me that more fluidity and
you know just what we're gonna work. You're gonna have
to make an overhaul of that offense.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, curious these final couple of weeks here, Jay, the
boot Birds were out in full force there in Pittsburgh tonight.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, yeah, I heard it, and rightly so.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
So we're hearing all all the whispers. I mean, Mike
Tomlins and you know, lockstep, you know, iron clad in
that job. I can never imagine it changing. But you know,
then I guess the the unrest is there, and what
do you do to fix it?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Well, they's been unrested, but Mikey's Josh Bermin, the guy's
never had a losing season. No, sure, right, no. But
but on the other side, that's the question, what happens
to Bill Belichick? I don't think come back. I see
them having I'm sort of mutually parting over the ways
where he gets paid or you know. But here's the thing.
I think I told you guys this last week and
last couple of weeks. You know, five years ago, if
(31:22):
you have Bill Belichick available and they said, okay, we
could trade him, you'd have thirty one other teams lining up.
But that's just not how the league is anymore. Like
you kind of look at the Patriot where like it
doesn't work anymore. You can't just beat guys down and
you know and have that have that top secret you
know everything CIA type of you know, you know, level
(31:45):
of secrecy around the whole team and you know, which
was what was the patio way for that long? And
she doesn't work with guys anymore. And that's why I
told you guys like this. Listen, these guys, these players
get beaten down so much on on Twitter and Instagram
and Facebook social media. The last thing they need these
days is get beaten down by like who they're basically
(32:05):
a father figure, now what a lot of these coaches are,
and also a big brother father figure. And that's why
the Dan Campbell and Demiico Ryans and Sean McVay and
guys like that Mike McDaniels are working so well. Now.
It's not that they're obviously scaring guys and beat them down.
It's more of a you know, kind of telling them
what you want instead of what you don't want and
love them up.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
You know, it's funny you say that, Jay, because look
as the players evolve, you know, look that those are
the coaches they respond to. Now, if the Patriots were
still a dynasty, it might be different, right, Like, well, hey,
because Belichick was like that way, but Brady was there
and you know, every couple of years you're going to
the super Bowl. But the last three years it's been
this team has just been in disrepair, and Belichick's moves
haven't made and the decisions that he's made haven't worked
(32:47):
and and I don't know if it's said he's lost
its Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Look, if I'm Bill Belichick and I designed to go
coach somewhere else and coming to Greed, I actually say, hey,
I want to go somewhere the great GM a great
personnel evaluator because he doesn't have that not that's not him.
And I think that's been a part of it down
for her. But the other part of it two, Like
I said, like, man, in the past, you could keep
everything in house, shrouded in secrecy. But it was like, hey,
(33:11):
everything's in the house. You almost kept this corn of
silence there. Now it's social media. There is no in house.
There's as much as you want to keep everything. Oh,
it's just in this building. Man. The moment these guys
go to the lockers, they're all looking on their phones
and they're seeing like there's there's no just hey, in
this building, everything's loud and every voice on there is
loud to you. So it's like I said, I just
(33:32):
think that that way of coaching is going out the window.
Like I said, I told you guys, it affected how
I was coaching fighters, and that was where I got
this line from I've never had patience and a few
years ago, man, I've had a fighter who kept putting
his hands down and I'm like, dude, stop dropping your hands,
stop dropping your hands. And Randy Gator stopped me in
(33:52):
the middle of it. He's like, Hey, you can't tell
these guys anymore what you don't want. You can only
tell them what you want. Brady, what are you talking about?
You're about to get my bucket for ye all are
ready there? They don't on that way. They shut down
when you tell me you don't want. When you beat
him that well you don't want, you get up and
you get mad, frustrated. You got shut down now. So
(34:14):
instead you just got to tell them what you want.
Only tell him what you want. As the best coaching
tip I've gotten. And I got to be honest with you.
How to make a decision? Can I do it? Do
I adjust my coaching style? And yeah? It was still hard?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
So how does Robert sold? Everybody sell Zach Wilson this week?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Tim Boyle, you sell Zach Wilson. You just you saw, like, man,
there is anybody be worse Boiler Simmy Actually war hurts.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I mean the guy started a game and got cut.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Man. It was it's but but here's the thing, and
this has always been there point of just two of
like at least Zach Wilson get himself out of harms
where it was his left. They're offensive line that's so
decimated and so beat up for a while, it's like
if we don't want to get the other guys killed
so they can't move, but we just keep Zack in there.
But then you know, Zach, he's thinking, you know, mostly
(35:11):
probably I started getting beaten out also and you just
get you know, tacked that much of a drubbing also
and in New York. So then protect him from himself.
They're shitting down and probably goes with anybody else, but
the bottom lineitor and that's what I think also, Like
I think Aaron was looking at it like, hey, I'm
going to come back here and play no matter what.
And it depends what by the way, what morning it is.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I think.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
I think that that. I think he probably looked at
the offensive lines like you, I'm not going to be
you know, touty healthy when I do come back and
the offense lives like this, that's gonna be a recipe
for disaster.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
NFL on Fox Insider Jake Lazer our guest to Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carman live from the diirect dot
com studios. All right, Jay, let me get you your
thoughts on this Sean McDermott story from today in the
stories It's it's four years old, but it breaks today
that in twenty nineteen, in training camp and trying to
find a way to bring the bills together, he used
an example of how the hijackers on nine to eleven
(36:09):
worked together and asked, you know, what do you think
they did to bring to work together to do what
they wanted to do? And some of the players were
surprised by it, they were shocked. McDermott apologized after it
was over, the player said they really appreciated that. And
McDermott went on the air today and talked about how
he apologized for what he did a few years ago.
Not something you should have done. Well when you saw
(36:29):
the story, you see how this laid out what went
through your mind?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
First of all, said it Normally, I'm not one to
throw stones and say anything when somebody said something dumb,
because I got so. I say a lot of dumb
stuff out there, but not just dumb. And when I
saw a rigel, my h there's gotta be there's no
way somebody will be this like just mister boat till
(36:56):
Bana something like this. No wait, and then he came out,
so yeah, I did it. I did it. I'm like,
oh my god, like it really is. And I just
don't know how you could ever look at it going
in for these guys get their speeches ready, but I'm
just getting up there. You get ever sick there and
kind of get your speech right and go, oh yeah,
this is gold. This is going to really go over
roll with you guys. I just don't. I don't get
(37:19):
char a nice guy. It's just you know, a little
different obviously, and that one is a lot different. And
I was, yeah, it was, man, I don't I dude,
Like I said, I can't. I can't figure out why
you would. There's any other things come up with to
motivate people, But I don't. I don't know why you
(37:41):
think that's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Just pull it back out further. Jay At six and
six they come out of the bye week, I mean,
how hot is the seat? Because the timing of this
story is certainly curious, You.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Know what, I don't know the answer to that, because
that would take you say, Okay, this guy's had one
bad season and that's it. And but it seems like
they've had a lot of interpersonal problems over there and
a lot more things have gone wrong. And I don't
know how much this thing is going to take off.
But if this shows how disconnected he really is to
sing but you have one bad season, but this one,
(38:13):
this one right here was, it'll be interesting to see
how they they just move on and recover from it.
I don't know. But and then you know, out say
this though, they have a lot of interversonal things in there,
and it really gets I think kept in house more
than a lot of other places. They do a good job.
They're in Buffalo with that, I think four years to
(38:34):
come out. Sure, like any other media, this out there
both to like not media, but like you would think
that this would be out there immediately because it's so
tone deaf right.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Jay's on Twitter at Jay Glazer. All right, now, let's
get into the latest Unbreakable podcast. You guy, Kurt Menafee
on your podcast this week, how did it go?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
It went great? Son, Kurt, And I've been for instance
ninety five where I was covering the Giants. I started
ninety three, he started covering ninety five. And people just
don't see, you know, the paths we've taken to get
to where we are. And you know what they also
don't see about Kurt is the year that he was
just man. He was fighting away, he was doing anything
(39:16):
he could. He's like, I was going to be a producer.
I was going to do this, to be a camera
anything he could just to get there, and doing high
school sports and college sport. And here is an Emmy
Award winner broadcasting whole time. But he started doing high
school sports, in college and any little thing he could
in Iowa, right, and then Jacksonville in Dallas, Atlanta, New York.
Like he's bounced throughout the amount of work you put
(39:38):
in on your journey. I think a lot of people
now say they see us where we are now, but
they don't see those years of us just kind of
scrounge enough money to do anything. And you know Kurt
in snow literally walking up hill with cameras and this
and that and trying not to look like he's you know,
(39:58):
he's a blizzard man trying to I do a hit
for I don't know if it was local high school,
whatever it is, but it's man, you put this timing
to get where you are, and you mess up over
and over and over and you man are told no,
you can't do this here over and over and over.
And the amount of rejection that you fight through it
gets where you are. And here's people don't know about Kurt.
Go listen to this episode because he's the most genuine
(40:20):
healing being in the world. And again I've noticed it's
ninety five and the amount of work that you would
put in. All the TV guys would like, come in
and get a sound bite and they take off. Some
Kurt would say, stay around, like he's an NFL inside
work relationships and work, you know, work the room works,
it give me just stay there late and and try
and get these relationships going and then work to relationship
(40:42):
based business. But it was so cool to have him
on where people could hear it and know and look.
He and I my first honest, my break, I guess
my first paid TV job and yeah, my first paid
job in TV was an MSG network in ninety seven,
I think when I did a show called Unnecessary to
(41:02):
Rough This. It was a weekly jet Giant show, and
we had to convince the Jet and Giant to drive
into New York City do a show at Madison Square
Garden little tavern over there during the rush hour for
zero money for nothing. And they asked me, though, who
what player do you want to host it with? I said,
I don't want to host you a player. I want
to host with Kurt Menifite And I said, what we
(41:24):
want to do with the Jedi drives stare? I said,
I don't. I want to do with Kurt because I
want to learn how to do TV all on her
to be better on TV. I want to learn how
to host and literally that that was my choice, and
it was he and I. And the crazy part was,
again we're in New York City of rush hour. These
guys would geting nothing, so most of the time our
guest spelled out, so we always called Stray had to
Bill up the ouse. He would come Tray and Kurt
(41:48):
all those years, Man didn't Madison Square Goudan, but Kurt would.
Trey understood too, and Kurt would tell him too, and Michael,
you're not getting money out of this, but you want
to do TV. This is your way to get reps.
This is a good way to get reps, more and
more reps. And that's what Michae will drive into the city,
was living in the city and get these reps with
us all so we have, Man, we have an incredible
journey together.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Man, wait for you to say, he's also the guys
on Sundays when I'm having my mental health issues literally Sundays,
I told Kurt nobody else for all.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
These years, and I'm really kind of having you know,
the roommates in my head are not getting along well.
Before our show, I'll come in with shirt Kurt and
I were sharing as your pressing room, and I'm like, dude,
I'm not in a good place and here's why, and
here's what. And he would listen and calm me down
and make sure I'm good, and make sure Terry's good,
and make sure everybody else is good, and go after
(42:39):
and host our show and like there is a man
who's an art to host him the best sports show
of all time, but even more impressive when he's selflessly
making sure all his teammates are good quietly without the
rest of the world knowing it. So we could be
good and better, just not as far on TV, but
just as a friend's he's been my therapist.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
There a man for years on Twitter at Jay Glazer.
That is at Jay Glazer. Get the link as well
the latest Unbreakable podcast with Kurt Menafee. Wherever you get
your podcasts, it is there Unbreakable a mental health podcast
again and Jay is on Twitter at Jay Glazer. Buddy
as always, man, appreciate everything, enjoy the games this weekend.
We'll talk to you next week.
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The winner gets into the finals of the in season tournament.
(01:00):
And oh, by the way, we have an NFL game
tonight that I was gonna hit the over any moment. Now,
all this under thirty points for the Patriots and the Steelers,
and hey man, this is twenty four to ten and a half. Time,
Wait a minute, we're seeing so twenty one, we're seeing
some points scored here. Now, yeah, we already hit the over.
I thought there was already two. No, I thought it
got to thirty two today. I thought, if.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You bet it at thirty two, you're an idiot, because
it was under thirty all week. It was at thirty
and a half or lower. So if you waited until
it and I didn't see that it went to thirty two,
But if it did and you're holding that ticket, you're
a dummy.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You're a dull.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Legitimately, if you had that price all week, record lows
like the temperatures will be in many of these cities,
including those participating here tonight on Thursday night football. That
if you waited until it rose, no, no, no, you're
banned from gambling or the or they should just send
a jet for you now because you may really bad decisions.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, I mean, look, it's that if you were watching Iowa,
you kept betting the under all the way along. You
kept winning, all right, so what why not? Of course
it's gonna work this way. Oh, Iowa kept going under,
kept going on. Of course this game is gonna be
under nope, not getting the under. Not getting the under
in this guy.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
No, I mean just because the colors are the same
as Iowa, this doesn't mean it always translates the same way.
I mean, did you see that dime that Kenny pickt
through to give you the over?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Too soon? Too soon, buddy.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I'm sorry, Mitchell Trubisky, too soon, buddy. I even took
Kenny Pick because I had him on the brain all
day long. Yeah, I guy, Mitchell Trubisky with the a
you you don't do math? That's so good? Yeah, your
math and and my name recognition. Uh, can we just
do get a due over?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
All right? So apparently Frostburg bet the over under at
thirty two. Uh we know that. And uh, you don't
nearly like Mitchell Trubisky as much as you say you do.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I love that throw. Well, No, I was arguing Cole
our buddy on Twitter already. He's like, ah, you know,
what's he even doing on the field. I'm like, did
you not see that throw? He goes, Yeah, The problem
is I saw the other ones. There's something to be
said for that. When your defense can basically set up
seven to eight yards off the line of scrimmage and No,
(03:18):
they don't have to backpedal because you're not gonna throw
it over the top.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So far in this game, we'll deal. We'll go at
the NFL game first. It has been the Bailey's Appy Show.
Two hundred yards, three touchdowns in the first half, Patriots
two and ten, and right now fans are going, well,
we're blowing our chains with the number one pick by
winning this game over the Steelers. Yeah, apparently Bill Belichick's deciding, well,
if I really want to get traded in the offseason,
(03:43):
I gotta start putting some good games on tape. Everybody's
watching this. It's a national game on Thursday night. All right,
I'm gonna coach tonight instead of tanking and everything going
on with I've been, instead of ruining the franchise, which
is what I've been doing for the last three plus
years since Brady left, No, I'm actually gonna try tonight. Hey,
look at what's going on right down the field for
a touchdown the first time they had the ball, twenty
one in the first half. Despite the fact they're missing
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their best player, Ormandre Stevenson. This has been This has
been the Patriots awakening, and I really am Belichick has
now decided, Okay, I really need you know, my stock
is at an all time low. I gotta pump it
up if I'm gonna get traded. This is the Belichick
Thursday Night. Hey, it's okay to trade for me game.
That's what this is.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes, yeah, I thought it was the uh you know
now that you've gotten the good will because people are
on board with you saying, all right, you you really
can tank when you want, can't you? And he said, okay,
now I'm gonna put in Bailey Zappy and watch what
this offense can do. And Hunter Henry has been fantastic.
Ezekiel Elliott was great on that first drive. I just
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wish I'd had the guts to start him in fantasy
like I recommend it on the iwatcher Flexat podcast. I
didn't follow my own advice. I had better options, but
it would have been nice to have a guy starting
on a Thursday night. Just I if I gotta watch it,
might as well a little skin in the game. But yeah,
for Bill Belichick, I mean, look, he's gonna do this
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and that he's the guest picker for Army Navy on Saturday.
I mean, he's just living life.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Let's go, Bill Belichick, how do you see this game?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Maybe it's kind of well, one word and done, Thank you,
Bill appreciate.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Is that it? Yeah? All right, Hey that was Bill Belichick.
Everybody ever ready collapse for him. Yeah, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
But legitimately, the first question and the second question, maybe
the third is gonna be why the hell wasn't this
guy quarterbacking all along?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well, because well, let me tell you. Let me tell you,
Pete will tell you. So let me tell you about
Bill Belichick. And the reports today that were all about
what other NFL executives were saying about the compensation for
Belichick should he most likely leave the pages at the
end of this season, and a few gms and front
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office execs said they could see the price tag getting
to be as much as a first round pick to
get Bill Belichick as your head coach. Right now here tonight,
the Patriots are out with their best game of the year.
You know, I tell you I go back and forth
every all the time. First of all, I say, I
don't know why you would want Bill Belichick because you're
not getting the Bill Bellie. Everybody sees Bill Belichick and thinks, oh,
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it's going to like the Super Bowl years with Brady
all the time. No, it's the last three years without Brady.
How bad the team has been, and how much he
has pushed this team into disrepair because he's drafted poorly,
he has analyzed and broken down positions poorly, He's not
had the right coaches in position, He's not made great
decisions on the field. This is the guy who would
have been fired already, probably a year and a half ago.
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But it's Bill Belichick, so he gets all the chances.
But I'm telling you, man, I keep going back and
forth with you know, he's lost his fastball. He's absolutely
lost his fastball. And he's not the same guy too.
Maybe he is really to Maybe he just doesn't want
anybody to Brady left and everybody hates the fact Bradley
they all blame me. So you know what, if I
can't win, nobody gets to win. So now no, So
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now we're going to be a bad team for three
years to I find my way out, go someplace elsewhere,
because I really can't believe that suddenly he has lost
the art of coaching overnight like he has. And yes,
he did have the plays with Spygate, he did have
Tom Brady, who covered up a lot of things. But boy,
this has been such a fast and precipitous fall for
Bill Belichick. I almost feel either he's lost his fastball,
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which is bad, or he's really tanking and saying we're
not trying to win because I don't want to win.
I don't care about it, just going through the motions,
which I can't believe he's doing that either. But one
of those things is what's happening now? And I see
tonight that here are the Patriots playing their best game
of the season. Offense looks great, their defense is fantastic.
They're stopping Pittsburgh from running the football. Trubisky's had a
couple of scrambles, which has helped them out a little bit,
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but they're stopped them offensively. And yet wait, but they
can't win more games than this. And this is a
Pittsburgh team that's pretty good. Despite the fact they have
bad quarterback issues and Trubisky is not very good, this
is still a good team that's found a way to
win games, that's run the ball well, and Najie Harris
has played well the last few weeks, and Jalen Warren's
been really good and they found a way to do
it and score on points and the change on offense
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from the offensive coordinator, Hey, four hundred yards two weeks ago.
Things are great, And now this is what's happening on
Thursday night. It's like is he trying now? Like, really
is he trying? Now? He's saying it's safe to trade
for me, everybody, it is safe to trade for me
in the off season.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Well, the trade compensation is a fun little piece and
wrinkle to it, all right, in terms of what you
believe Belichick is. I've still tried to keep that separation
of church and state between Belichick the coach once the
fifty three has been decided versus the guy that's deciding
the fifty three, because that guy's been pretty bad in
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many many spots. Yeah, but the coach, I mean, look
what the defense is, even with J. C. Jackson, who
is really one of the guys I want to thirty
for thirty on this guy, all right, he's all world.
Gets the contract with the Chargers once they tell him
to beat it to Lesco's like, yeah, that was a mistake.
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And then he comes back and it hasn't been all sunshine,
and you know, lollipops and rainbows as a member of
the Patriots because he'd been left home, right, Remember they
went overseas, they left him at home. So and then
he comes back out and he's playing good football here.
So that that's a great enigma to it. But the
defense has been lights out. You could put anything offensively
together that it makes sense. And even go back to
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last year, Eh, you were a defensive guy, right A
want you bear our offensive corner? Go do that? Uh
ond that workout is a disaster. And then this year
Mac Jones Alabama. Mack was supposed to be back, but
guess what, you still had a bunch of busters on
the outside. Although Douglas looked pretty good in spots, and
you got a three headed monster at tight end. Well
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most of those guys. Those guys haven't been healthy all year.
And Hunter Henry when he did in what he is,
you look at what a red zone target he is
as he you know, had that great That second touchdown
catch was tremendous. That ball should have been tipped away
or or intercepted. But that's a whole other thing. It
all counts just the same in the box score. But
the coach, I don't deny that. I think he's a
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good coach to the other stuff. Someone needs to, you know,
take the reins on actually picking the players, for.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Everybody picked the guys before, though nobody else was picking
the players during the dynasty, he was picking.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
But Tom Brady wipes margins of error.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, I mean, but okay, but.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Right, but when we talk about just the difference of
you know, what we're lining up around. If you've got
a quarterback, then then that range becomes a lot bigger.
The variability of how good the wide receivers are. Now
it's just all right, can you get into the spot?
Can you be U? Can you work through the route
tree and work on your timing? With Brady, you didn't
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have to be great. And I take nothing away from
those receivers. All of those guys played their role. And
obviously Gronkowski, you know, our guy was fantastic. Right, But
when you have a quarterback, and we see it all
across the league, you got a guy that can make plays,
it erases a lot of ills really fast.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Jeez. Yeah, but at this I've seen the last three
years is what you're gonna get.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You don't get in the way back machine and look
coaching can be like playing, where you lose your edge,
you lose the effectiveness that you were. And whether he
whether he has decided, I don't care if anybody wins
or I've lost my edge. Yeah, I got no interest.
Bill Belichick's available, that's great, good luck. You go get him.
You go pay a first round pick to go get
him and see how much better things are there. See
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if he does better picking the groceries and and and
getting a good team on the field. He's had chances.
He had chances, he had draft picks, he had free agency,
he's had everything.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
But to pick. Yeah, but doesn't that it's all about
beating Mike Tomlin. He decided, and he was on the
graphic he had tonight it is. He was on the ground.
You're right, he was.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
He knew tonight had to be a big night. But
he was a guy that wanted Alabama. Mac. Now, Mac
Jones is the guy. Mac Jones is the guy. We're
taking him in the first round. He's the guy. These
are all his decisions. So yeah, well, you know, well
you look at it and go, Okay, I see the
career he's had. Yeah, you know, I mean, I remember
when Joe Gibbs came back after he was coaching for
so long. I mean, I'm sorry, not that I think
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he would show up at Jets and do any worse.
But still, if I'm another team in the NFL, it's
gonna be Hey, you're paying them a lot of money
and I'm giving up a first round pick, and there's
coaches i'd give up a first round pick for. I
would have done that for Belichick, but I'm not doing
it now. You would do that right now?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Oh well, Robert, Yeah, Well have your quarterback right, You've
got you know, Aaron Rodgers against Science. You've got a
couple of good skilled position guys. You got a pretty
good tight end in Conklin. Go figure out the offensive line,
that defense with that guy coaching it. Come on, Nah, Still,
all these years later, he can walk back to the podium. Look,
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I taped together that napkin that I ripped up all
those years ago. He would go. There's not much he
wouldn't do.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
He would just sabotage us. You thought this looks bad.
Why see the people he's traded. I've traded Breesol and
Garrett Wilson to the Chargers in exchange for Isaiah Spiller.
Wait what Yeah, yeah, that went down. Sorry, we really
like Isaiah Spiller, so we're gonna go get No. No,
he would just sabotage Jets because he hates them.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
He wouldn't say this if we could somehow make this
work just for reality television sake, where he had to
work with David Tepper for one year and you just
stop over before he goes to the Vikings, you know,
before you can go pick your new spot, you have
to go to a team that's really bad with an
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owner you hate you after a week.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I'm not saying it won't be interesting and that wouldn't
be fun, but I don't want him as a I
don't want him. Come on, man, you no white though,
are you kidd he'd bring Bill O'Brien with him. Forget it, man,
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
As he doesn't have the ability to hit the red
plunger that says trade this man, It'll be okay. You
want him for a day?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Oh too soon? Oh yeah, too soon, too soon, Although
it would be longer than Aaron Rodgers with the Jets,
so there would be that was five yeah, no, yeah,
I can't believe I'm saying that, like five years ago.
He said to me, if you could get Bill Belichick
and it's only a first round pick, I would have
said yes. Now I'm like, no way, no way, keep him.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Good luck, good luck, well, especially now that you've played
your way into the top ten.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Good luck. Yeah. But now we got Zach Wilson is
back again, you know. So it's fine. It's because he
all it's all gonna work out.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Is he really back?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Somebody's got to take the snap. But to start the game,
can't just snap it right to Breese Hall or Garrett Wilson,
Although that might be.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
An remember the timeline of everything leaking and then them
cutting the guy that started Sunday.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Kid you not. When we played you guys, your best
play was a direct snap to Breese Hall. Yeah, oh yeah,
it was yeah yeah. And our best player was our punter.
Just like most of the season's been, it's been very good.
It's what a great year. I still and you know,
and I still don't want Belichick. I still don't want him.
He'd make it even worse, even worse. Twenty one to ten.
Patriots lead the Steelers right now. They have the football
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midway through the third quarter, though they are punting Bailey
Zappy was just sacked on third down, so the Steelers
end Mitch Trubisky will get the ball back. Meanwhile, Lakers
and the Pelicans. Lakers lead this one. Remember the winner
goes to the finals of the in season tournament. About
two minutes ago before halftime, fifty seven to fifty one,
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Lebron shot out of a cannon tonight. He has nineteen already.
He is the only player in double figures in the game.
He is seven out of nine from the floor and
three out of three from three point range. Lebron wants
the end season Tournament Pat O'Brien Trophy. He wants it man,
he wants that trophy.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So under four minutes ago in the fourth quarter, it
is still the Patriots up over the Steelers by a
field goal twenty one to eighteen. They have the football. Meanwhile,
they may have to stop Lakers pellow kids at the
end of the third quarter. Lakers have started off the
third quarter on a twenty six to ten run.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Throw the damn towel.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
They lead New Orleans ninety four sixty four. It is
a thirty point lead. The Lakers want this in season
tournament title. Mike Hartman. They want it bad. They want
it worse than anybody.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Well, if you get a little bit of rest in now,
I mean, the night is young at Thursday night in Vegas,
let's go man.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well, I'll tell you this. Lebron has been spectacular tonight.
Thirty points so far, eight assists, He's hit all four
of his threes. Just to throw this out there, because
this is kind of interesting, right. The championship game is Saturday.
With a thirty point leader over the Pelicans, I feel
pretty safe saying the Lakers are going to play the
Pacers for the end season tournament, the Patt O'Brien Trophy.
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Lebron has said, hey guys, when Bronni makes his USC debut,
I'll see you later, like I'll catch up with you
another time. Bronni is supposedly, according to USA Today, set
to make his debut for USC this weekend on Sunday. Yep, Sunday,
So USC plays on Sunday. A bit of four tuit
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is scheduling right there, so Lebron can play in the
championship on Saturday and then attend Bronny's first game against USC,
which again likely gonna happen on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Works out quite nicely, now, doesn't it. And figure I
had that game.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Moved you think see beginning of the year, saw the
n season tournaments, said, Okay, that's a title I can win.
I want to win this thing. When is the championship game?
It's sad Saturday, the ninth. Okay, uh, USC, you schedule play?
Said yeah, yeah, we got a big game Saturay and
that Yeah, I need you to move that game to
the tenth. Yeah, move, let's move. Okay, great, moveing to
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the tenth. Great, awesome, move that game to the tenth. Terrific.
We feel pretty good. All right, great, now I can
make it. Don't have to worry about it works out?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Okay, I mean right, you'll play on the I mean
that'll be the ninth on Saturday, and then Sunday Bronny plays.
They don't play again nil Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, it works out. It's all set to go a.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Couple of days to enjoy Bronni's return to the court
and rest and then maybe get some more rests saying look,
I gave you a full tournament. I mean, what do
you want from me?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I just I just before. First of all, we're not
going to see Lebron until after the All Star Game.
I mean, come on, he wins and forget it, he's done.
We're not seeing him again.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Well, I don't know what I mean. Those upstart Spurs
come in on Wednesday. I want to see they're in
San Antonio Wednesday. Fifteen losses in a row. Smith, Yeah, yeah, no,
that's not it's not good, Jason. They might lose twenty
in a row after Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Oh man, I'll tell you. I want to know because
I haven't looked at this. I want to see where
how many just how many times the Lakers and USC
basketball overlap this season? You know, knowing going in it
was going to be Bronni's first year, Like suddenly are
there like no days where the Lakers are playing and
Bronni is playing? Like I want to see, like how
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many how many conflicts were there that made that you
could say, oh, Lebron made a fire, Let's schedule this
game here, We're gonna play this game here in this
game here, this game here. I want to know. I
really want to know that that's really I haven't looked,
so I just throw that out there. But I want
to know because that's interesting to me.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Here's a video evidence of Lebron James sitting with the
schedule makers.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Big it's gonna work. You just see the big red
xes on. Some games.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Can't make work.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Televised game we want to have. You got that?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
A big update from NFL before we get into the
Juan Soto trade. UH, fourth and two and Mitchell Trubisky
lofts up a fifty to fifty ball deep for Deontay Johnson.
The pass isn't even close. It falls in complete. Johnson
wanted a flag, didn't look like a flag was warranted.
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So now the Patriots take over up by a field
goal with less than two minutes left go. The Steelers
can stop the clock one more time. So barring disaster,
this looks like it's gonna be the end of a
great day for Bill Belichick showing other teams in the NFL. Hey,
I still got it as a coach. You can trade
for me in the offseason. I know everybody watches Thursday Night.
I saved my best game for tonight. All the other
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games I stunk at now, I'm not really trying, but
tonight I'm trying. So this is what I want because
I can't stand Bob Kraft. I can't stand all the fans.
I think was Brady was the reason behind this dynasty.
So I've been tanking for three years. But tonight I'm trying.
So you know it's free to It's okay to come
get me. I can coach your team and be successful
next season.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Nationally televised game, everybody complained, Oh we got the Patriots
and Steelers. We got a thriller, and you know what,
it was close late. That's what we want.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
As far as that last pass, I don't think it
was so woefully and horribly thrown as you allege. I
need to see another replay because I'd like to see
the reverse angle as to the where the hands were
on Deontay Johnson because you know, it looks like he's
got of fighting through. Not to trying to say I
want flags thrown anywhere, because I mean, let's dud stop.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Mitchell Trubisky threw a bad pad. You gotta start, you
got you can't die on the Mitch Trubisky hill. Dying.
You gotta pick a different hill to die on.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It's not dying on the Trubisky. Come on, sive that again.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I gotta see that play again before I find it
was a bad throw by Mitchell Trubisky. Dude, come on, man,
come on, you got to give that up.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
You got to give up more about bad throws or
inactivity than anyone who knows more about Normally, I should
defer to you, but my watch particular instance, I saw
the play. I saw the one angle day shown as
a as a highlight, but they immediately morphed into all right,
get the reaction from Trubisky, so we didn't even get
to see it go all the way through it.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Trust me. Do you think I'm lying when I said
because you hate Mitchell Trubisky, I have to, dude, and
you hate policheck, so this is the worst. Can't tell
you how much time be I do not spend thinking
about Mitchell Trubisky because the guy's not good. So I
don't spend time thinking.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
About the best quarterback on your rock.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Your you's still at well. Look you would be the
best quarterback and you can't even throw the football anymore.
We have a catch of the nerf ball in the studio.
You got to throw it underhand, you'd still be the
best squad. I'm sorry, you'd be the second best behind everything. Yeah,
it'd be ripping and then fourth quarterbacks. That's what would be.
Uh so again right now, under two minutes left to go,
Patriots with the three point lead. We'll have Jay Glazer
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coming up at the conclusion of this game to break
it all down for us. Meanwhile, Day two, the day
after the big Wan Sodo trade that has just stunned
the Major League Baseball world, the Yankees get Juan Soto
and there's two big things you know, in the last
to break down that I don't think you've heard people
talk about as far as this trade. I love it
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and I hate it.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I hate it obviously because being a Mets fan, now
I gotta watch the Yankees and Juan Soto, you know,
be terrific for a while. But I love it because
it turns the Yankees back into the Yankees right a
team they've made two trades in the last three days
where they've traded fourteen prospects for two players, actually three.
They got Trent Grishaman as well.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I'm not happy to see Beauty Show is what we
talked about last night. Baby.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So this is great because the Yankees are turning back
into the Yankees. The Yankees are more fun when they're
the swagger ishus. Hey, we'll go out buy anybody we
want to and figure it out. Because make no mistake,
they did not trade five guys who could and three
of them could turn out to be really good. They
did not do that if they didn't know we're gonna
sign Juan Soto long term in the offseason. Now it
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may be a little bit because they gotta find a
way to divest themselves of John Carlos Stanton's contract. They
gotta free up some other money, which they'll need to
but they have time to do it. And Wan Soto's
gonna want to stay, he's gonna want to resign, He's
gonna want to be a Yankee. So I have no
doubt in my mind that he's gonna be a Yankee
for a while, right, And it's gonna be a five
whatever it is, five years, seven years, ten years. A
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guy's twenty five years old, right, So I hate it
because I gotta watch him be this guy in New
York for a long time. But I love it because
it turns the Yankees into the Yankees. But let me
just give you the other side of this first second,
because this is this is something that I thought about
when it happened. All Right, One SODA's terrific player. I
don't think there's any argument there. There's no argument with
One Soda being as good as he is, right, the
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guy is the guy is a lifetime The averages thirty
home runs and about one hundred runs bad in a year.
He hits about two to eighty. Now, there's a lot
of guys who can do that, but One Soda is
pretty consistent with that. He's a really good player. Is
he gonna be worth the money that they have to
pay him? No, but it's not my money. But here's
my thing. One Soda is really really good, Right, One
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Soda is a really good player, and he's so good
and everybody wants him. Why is the guy now going
to be on his third team before the age of
twenty five? Because that's the thing, right, If he's that
good and everybody wants him, why is he now going
to be on his third team by the age of
twenty five? And you can site her and tell me, well,
he wanted more money the Nationals didn't want to sign
The national has money to sign him. They didn't. They
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didn't pay Bryce Harper. They had money to give one
soda if they wanted to. Well, the Padres. Padres could
have given him a lot of money. They had other
guys they decided. They could have given him money. They
could have traded somebody else. They could have moved on.
They could have given him some kind of contract. They
could have traded to tease. They they could have figured
out once so over the course of the next three months,
they could have done all these things. And now the
Yankees have him as good as he is right. Three
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time All Star finished fifth in MVP voting in twenty twenty.
Why is he on his third team by the age
of twenty five? And it's not always just gonna be about, well,
someone's gonna pay him at some point, So we got
to move on from him before we can have that happen.
The Padres got him, and it was a great deal
at the time because it was we're gonna have him
for three Pennant drives before we can move on. It
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turns out no. Two because they had to make a deal. Now, yes,
where they're extenuating circumstances, the tragic story of their their
owner passing away, and there's a lot of you know,
there's a lot of stuff happening now as far as
what do we do, how do we move on? But
in the end, you know, for Soto, this is still
his third team and he's not even twenty five. And
for a guy like that, it makes me stop and
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go just why is that? Like, like, why could nobody
why could neither of these teams make up enough money
or put enough money forward to keep this guy or
give them a long term deal because players like Jan
Soto are getting three hundred million dollar contracts. They were
getting these kinds of deals and teams could do that.
Clear the padres, okay with take game to everybody. You know,
the Nationals could have done. All these things could happen.
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But yet instead Soto's now on his third team. So
that's a bit of a thing. And that's a question
that you can't really just dismiss and say, Okay, we're
throwing this out the window.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
No, it's certainly something to ponder, right in terms of
what's going on within the organization and what you I mean, look,
maybe we'll wait four years and we'll get a full
accounting like we did in that doug that Sean McDermott
thing I wanted to say, Dougie mcbuggets Sean McDermott story, right,
that we talked about last hour in terms of, you know,
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his different motivational tactics that maybe you'll find out behind
the scenes what's really going on and whatever discord might
have been there between the star of the squad for
the padres. Yeah, a lot of different circumstances. We know
about the loan they had to take and the passing
of the owner, all of those things right minded, right thought,
(27:11):
forward thinking, and then a conversion of circumstance that leads
to this trade and not a full on rebuild, but
at least for portions of it. I go back to
our conversations, you and I have been doing this a minute.
When you add your great love of yo Anacespidus, right,
and he was the guy, it's like, wow, look at
(27:32):
what he's doing, look at all the power numbers, and
then he was bouncing around like a pinball, And what
did I tell you? Yeah, there's something more to that, right,
We don't know what the story is yet with Juan soda.
We don't, but certainly from a stats perspective, you could
replace those. You can replace what he's been putting out.
Has he been consistent through the early part of his career. Sure,
but it's not other worldly numbers that can't be attained
(27:57):
or that you can't cobble together by having maybe a
better hitting catcher or short stop here and there. Right,
So you move on and let someone else pay the
piper for that production and for the Yankees to your point,
you know, as this was breaking a little bit last night, Yeah,
Carrie Rhodes, who's a big Yankees fan, he was doing
(28:18):
you know, the peacock walk around here as that news
went down. Fenley looked frustrated, kind of happy, you know,
Padre's guy. But for me, it was very much about
the All right, the Yankees did something. Brian Cashman, listen
to everybody that cursed him out as he walked around Manhattan.
You better do something. You want to keep that job.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
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Speaker 1 (28:46):
Joining us now on the hotline to break it all down.
Nobody better longtime NFL on Fox insider Jay Glazer, Jay,
what's happening to man? Happy?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Honka? What's so hard?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Welcome in, dude, Jackie.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Yet you watched this whole game? Wow?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
You didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I suffered through this game.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeh Hey, but they hit the over Jay, come.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
On, which we definitely didn't expect. I mean, I will
say that, like going into it, I could see how,
like man, the Patriots defference actually played well this year,
and how this is going to be a bad matchup
for Pittsburgh just their offenses. Doesn't matter who's calling and plays,
the scheme just doesn't work. You know. Obviously Mike Tomlin's
gonna have to overhaul their entire office for having Trubisky
in there. Well, I could see that. I was. I
(29:32):
was very surprised that Belly's OPTI got off from the
Steelers defense three times early on.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's it's really weird, Jay, because you know, the Patriots
have this season where everything is going on, everything's going on,
and then here's Belichick on a Thursday night suddenly in
the like in the wave, like when we get a quarterback,
I have a perform while we haven't seen this out
of this guy in like five years, Like, hey, we
haven't seen a Belichick team out coach and out manage
and out do a team like this in quite a while,
like we saw tonight.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Well, I don't know so much. I think he did
for the first you know, for the first quarter and
then you Stiller obviously wiped out and a whole you know,
huge deficit over there. So I don't know about that.
And it's interesting because you always see my commins, same thing,
like his teams are always coming back. So he makes
he makes, you know, later game adjustments better, better than
anybody in the league. But again, you look at their
(30:18):
offense and just you know, they had a bad scheme
with that Canada and to try to fix things and
move things in a different direction of better communication and
what's the worry? He told me that more fluidity and
you know just what we're gonna work. You're gonna have
to make an overhaul of that offense.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, curious these final couple of weeks here, Jay, the
boot Birds were out in full force there in Pittsburgh tonight.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, yeah, I heard it, and rightly so.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
So we're hearing all all the whispers. I mean, Mike
Tomlins and you know, lockstep, you know, iron clad in
that job. I can never imagine it changing. But you know,
then I guess the the unrest is there, and what
do you do to fix it?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Well, they's been unrested, but Mikey's Josh Bermin, the guy's
never had a losing season. No, sure, right, no. But
but on the other side, that's the question, what happens
to Bill Belichick? I don't think come back. I see
them having I'm sort of mutually parting over the ways
where he gets paid or you know. But here's the thing.
I think I told you guys this last week and
last couple of weeks. You know, five years ago, if
(31:22):
you have Bill Belichick available and they said, okay, we
could trade him, you'd have thirty one other teams lining up.
But that's just not how the league is anymore. Like
you kind of look at the Patriot where like it
doesn't work anymore. You can't just beat guys down and
you know and have that have that top secret you
know everything CIA type of you know, you know, level
(31:45):
of secrecy around the whole team and you know, which
was what was the patio way for that long? And
she doesn't work with guys anymore. And that's why I
told you guys like this. Listen, these guys, these players
get beaten down so much on on Twitter and Instagram
and Facebook social media. The last thing they need these
days is get beaten down by like who they're basically
(32:05):
a father figure, now what a lot of these coaches are,
and also a big brother father figure. And that's why
the Dan Campbell and Demiico Ryans and Sean McVay and
guys like that Mike McDaniels are working so well. Now.
It's not that they're obviously scaring guys and beat them down.
It's more of a you know, kind of telling them
what you want instead of what you don't want and
love them up.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
You know, it's funny you say that, Jay, because look
as the players evolve, you know, look that those are
the coaches they respond to. Now, if the Patriots were
still a dynasty, it might be different, right, Like, well, hey,
because Belichick was like that way, but Brady was there
and you know, every couple of years you're going to
the super Bowl. But the last three years it's been
this team has just been in disrepair, and Belichick's moves
haven't made and the decisions that he's made haven't worked
(32:47):
and and I don't know if it's said he's lost
its Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Look, if I'm Bill Belichick and I designed to go
coach somewhere else and coming to Greed, I actually say, hey,
I want to go somewhere the great GM a great
personnel evaluator because he doesn't have that not that's not him.
And I think that's been a part of it down
for her. But the other part of it two, Like
I said, like, man, in the past, you could keep
everything in house, shrouded in secrecy. But it was like, hey,
(33:11):
everything's in the house. You almost kept this corn of
silence there. Now it's social media. There is no in house.
There's as much as you want to keep everything. Oh,
it's just in this building. Man. The moment these guys
go to the lockers, they're all looking on their phones
and they're seeing like there's there's no just hey, in
this building, everything's loud and every voice on there is
loud to you. So it's like I said, I just
(33:32):
think that that way of coaching is going out the window.
Like I said, I told you guys, it affected how
I was coaching fighters, and that was where I got
this line from I've never had patience and a few
years ago, man, I've had a fighter who kept putting
his hands down and I'm like, dude, stop dropping your hands,
stop dropping your hands. And Randy Gator stopped me in
(33:52):
the middle of it. He's like, Hey, you can't tell
these guys anymore what you don't want. You can only
tell them what you want. Brady, what are you talking about?
You're about to get my bucket for ye all are
ready there? They don't on that way. They shut down
when you tell me you don't want. When you beat
him that well you don't want, you get up and
you get mad, frustrated. You got shut down now. So
(34:14):
instead you just got to tell them what you want.
Only tell him what you want. As the best coaching
tip I've gotten. And I got to be honest with you.
How to make a decision? Can I do it? Do
I adjust my coaching style? And yeah? It was still hard?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
So how does Robert sold? Everybody sell Zach Wilson this week?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Tim Boyle, you sell Zach Wilson. You just you saw, like, man,
there is anybody be worse Boiler Simmy Actually war hurts.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I mean the guy started a game and got cut.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Man. It was it's but but here's the thing, and
this has always been there point of just two of
like at least Zach Wilson get himself out of harms
where it was his left. They're offensive line that's so
decimated and so beat up for a while, it's like
if we don't want to get the other guys killed
so they can't move, but we just keep Zack in there.
But then you know, Zach, he's thinking, you know, mostly
(35:11):
probably I started getting beaten out also and you just
get you know, tacked that much of a drubbing also
and in New York. So then protect him from himself.
They're shitting down and probably goes with anybody else, but
the bottom lineitor and that's what I think also, Like
I think Aaron was looking at it like, hey, I'm
going to come back here and play no matter what.
And it depends what by the way, what morning it is.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I think.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
I think that that. I think he probably looked at
the offensive lines like you, I'm not going to be
you know, touty healthy when I do come back and
the offense lives like this, that's gonna be a recipe
for disaster.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
NFL on Fox Insider Jake Lazer our guest to Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carman live from the diirect dot
com studios. All right, Jay, let me get you your
thoughts on this Sean McDermott story from today in the
stories It's it's four years old, but it breaks today
that in twenty nineteen, in training camp and trying to
find a way to bring the bills together, he used
an example of how the hijackers on nine to eleven
(36:09):
worked together and asked, you know, what do you think
they did to bring to work together to do what
they wanted to do? And some of the players were
surprised by it, they were shocked. McDermott apologized after it
was over, the player said they really appreciated that. And
McDermott went on the air today and talked about how
he apologized for what he did a few years ago.
Not something you should have done. Well when you saw
(36:29):
the story, you see how this laid out what went
through your mind?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
First of all, said it Normally, I'm not one to
throw stones and say anything when somebody said something dumb,
because I got so. I say a lot of dumb
stuff out there, but not just dumb. And when I
saw a rigel, my h there's gotta be there's no
way somebody will be this like just mister boat till
(36:56):
Bana something like this. No wait, and then he came out,
so yeah, I did it. I did it. I'm like,
oh my god, like it really is. And I just
don't know how you could ever look at it going
in for these guys get their speeches ready, but I'm
just getting up there. You get ever sick there and
kind of get your speech right and go, oh yeah,
this is gold. This is going to really go over
roll with you guys. I just don't. I don't get
(37:19):
char a nice guy. It's just you know, a little
different obviously, and that one is a lot different. And
I was, yeah, it was, man, I don't I dude,
Like I said, I can't. I can't figure out why
you would. There's any other things come up with to
motivate people, But I don't. I don't know why you
(37:41):
think that's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Just pull it back out further. Jay At six and
six they come out of the bye week, I mean,
how hot is the seat? Because the timing of this
story is certainly curious, You.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Know what, I don't know the answer to that, because
that would take you say, Okay, this guy's had one
bad season and that's it. And but it seems like
they've had a lot of interpersonal problems over there and
a lot more things have gone wrong. And I don't
know how much this thing is going to take off.
But if this shows how disconnected he really is to
sing but you have one bad season, but this one,
(38:13):
this one right here was, it'll be interesting to see
how they they just move on and recover from it.
I don't know. But and then you know, out say
this though, they have a lot of interversonal things in there,
and it really gets I think kept in house more
than a lot of other places. They do a good job.
They're in Buffalo with that, I think four years to
(38:34):
come out. Sure, like any other media, this out there
both to like not media, but like you would think
that this would be out there immediately because it's so
tone deaf right.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Jay's on Twitter at Jay Glazer. All right, now, let's
get into the latest Unbreakable podcast. You guy, Kurt Menafee
on your podcast this week, how did it go?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
It went great? Son, Kurt, And I've been for instance
ninety five where I was covering the Giants. I started
ninety three, he started covering ninety five. And people just
don't see, you know, the paths we've taken to get
to where we are. And you know what they also
don't see about Kurt is the year that he was
just man. He was fighting away, he was doing anything
(39:16):
he could. He's like, I was going to be a producer.
I was going to do this, to be a camera
anything he could just to get there, and doing high
school sports and college sport. And here is an Emmy
Award winner broadcasting whole time. But he started doing high
school sports, in college and any little thing he could
in Iowa, right, and then Jacksonville in Dallas, Atlanta, New York.
Like he's bounced throughout the amount of work you put
(39:38):
in on your journey. I think a lot of people
now say they see us where we are now, but
they don't see those years of us just kind of
scrounge enough money to do anything. And you know Kurt
in snow literally walking up hill with cameras and this
and that and trying not to look like he's you know,
(39:58):
he's a blizzard man trying to I do a hit
for I don't know if it was local high school,
whatever it is, but it's man, you put this timing
to get where you are, and you mess up over
and over and over and you man are told no,
you can't do this here over and over and over.
And the amount of rejection that you fight through it
gets where you are. And here's people don't know about Kurt.
Go listen to this episode because he's the most genuine
(40:20):
healing being in the world. And again I've noticed it's
ninety five and the amount of work that you would
put in. All the TV guys would like, come in
and get a sound bite and they take off. Some
Kurt would say, stay around, like he's an NFL inside
work relationships and work, you know, work the room works,
it give me just stay there late and and try
and get these relationships going and then work to relationship
(40:42):
based business. But it was so cool to have him
on where people could hear it and know and look.
He and I my first honest, my break, I guess
my first paid TV job and yeah, my first paid
job in TV was an MSG network in ninety seven,
I think when I did a show called Unnecessary to
(41:02):
Rough This. It was a weekly jet Giant show, and
we had to convince the Jet and Giant to drive
into New York City do a show at Madison Square
Garden little tavern over there during the rush hour for
zero money for nothing. And they asked me, though, who
what player do you want to host it with? I said,
I don't want to host you a player. I want
to host with Kurt Menifite And I said, what we
(41:24):
want to do with the Jedi drives stare? I said,
I don't. I want to do with Kurt because I
want to learn how to do TV all on her
to be better on TV. I want to learn how
to host and literally that that was my choice, and
it was he and I. And the crazy part was,
again we're in New York City of rush hour. These
guys would geting nothing, so most of the time our
guest spelled out, so we always called Stray had to
Bill up the ouse. He would come Tray and Kurt
(41:48):
all those years, Man didn't Madison Square Goudan, but Kurt would.
Trey understood too, and Kurt would tell him too, and Michael,
you're not getting money out of this, but you want
to do TV. This is your way to get reps.
This is a good way to get reps, more and
more reps. And that's what Michae will drive into the city,
was living in the city and get these reps with
us all so we have, Man, we have an incredible
journey together.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Man, wait for you to say, he's also the guys
on Sundays when I'm having my mental health issues literally Sundays,
I told Kurt nobody else for all.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
These years, and I'm really kind of having you know,
the roommates in my head are not getting along well.
Before our show, I'll come in with shirt Kurt and
I were sharing as your pressing room, and I'm like, dude,
I'm not in a good place and here's why, and
here's what. And he would listen and calm me down
and make sure I'm good, and make sure Terry's good,
and make sure everybody else is good, and go after
(42:39):
and host our show and like there is a man
who's an art to host him the best sports show
of all time, but even more impressive when he's selflessly
making sure all his teammates are good quietly without the
rest of the world knowing it. So we could be
good and better, just not as far on TV, but
just as a friend's he's been my therapist.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
There a man for years on Twitter at Jay Glazer.
That is at Jay Glazer. Get the link as well
the latest Unbreakable podcast with Kurt Menafee. Wherever you get
your podcasts, it is there Unbreakable a mental health podcast
again and Jay is on Twitter at Jay Glazer. Buddy
as always, man, appreciate everything, enjoy the games this weekend.
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
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