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coming up in about twenty minutes, all the latest off
of a shocking Thursday night football game that saw the
Patriots have their best effort of the season and beating
the Steelers. And this is the Bill Belichick. Hey guys,
I'm actually trying to coach. It's a Thursday night game.
Everybody got to see it. I wanted to keep Al
Michael's happy so yeah, look, I still have time. I
can still coach when I want to. It's okay. It's
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safe to trade for me in the offseason. I can
come and I'll do great things for your team. See,
all I gotta do is try. Have been trying lately.
But now look I put Bailey Zappi in. We scored
three touchdowns in the first halfway. It's all good. I
can do it when I still want to. It is
safe to trade for me.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
How much has he damaged your psyche that you're obsessed
with this?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You are absolutely positively obsessed with Bill Belichick winning a
game on a Thursday night, like it's this grand statement
of anything.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
The greatest day of Jason Smith's life, right, it was
the one day Bill Belichick was coach of the Jay.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Was he wasn't coaching finished the day, not coach for day.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
He was a coach for most of the morning, and
then then he was the greatest morning year.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
What that's not and he's been mourning ever since.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That's not the day.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
No, the best day was when Aaron Rodgers said it's
my intention to be in New York jet That was
That was when things went downhill.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
At was the high point and instead it's a lot
of uh well science, And so she did try and
tell you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Look, Harmon, I'll tell you there's two big topics to
get to with this. There's Bill Belichick and there's Mitch Trubisky.
And the Steelers offense stinks. And I know you love
Mitch Trubisky and you want to say it wasn't a
bad pass he threw on fourth and two when he
throws in a double coverage when they need a first.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
The bigger thing was when he so pick what you
want to talk about now.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
The bigger thing was when they needed nine yards for
first and he slid after six yards. That was a
bigger deal. He gave himself up after six yards.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
But that's your guys. You love Mitchell Trubisky.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I wasn't sitting here thumping my chest to talk
about Mitch Trubisky.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I'll tell you, I never thought i'd say you want
things I never thought i'd say. I never thought i'd
say this, especially now, boy, the Steelers miss Kenny Pickett
tonight never thought of.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I don't know how much that's true.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Oh, I thought you were gonna say, uh if I
only had the Jets, only had Mitchell Trubisky.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh no, dude, he's as bad as anybody like Mitchell
Trubisky is in the Hey, if he started for the Jets,
it would be the same things, it would be the same.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
He'd be there.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You see the dude, some of the decisions he made.
Let's talk about that fourth and two. Okay, less than
two minutes left to go. The game is on the line.
You need two yards for a first down, and I
don't know whether it was, whether it's the play callee.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
We can't.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You can't just chuck it up downfield into double coverage
and hope that Deontay Johnson. You need two yards for
a first down. First of all, I don't know what
the play call was to make it where that's the play.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I don't understand. It's horrible play call.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
But how you think, Okay, yeah, that's what I got
to do with the football. Yes, I know the rush
came in, but you got to find a way to
get that. You can't just chuck it up down that's
a horrible play.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Well, the bigger thing, the entire game plan, the entire
execution to that point had been checked down with the
exception of one or two throws, including the touchdown pass
to Deontay Johnson earlier. No, I'm not saying it didn't
have a lot of warts. No, no, no. It was
a terrible, terrible, disgusting performance and off in spots. The
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fact that Jalen Warren averaged well less than the length
of his body on his seven rushing attempts, and that
Nasee Harris, Yeah, he was banged up. He played. You know,
you don't get a mulligan.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
You got the length of his body.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
That's about it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Length of his body, that's about it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So the run game was useless. So there's no play
action pass that comes in you're able to as a
defender basically saying they're not pushing it beyond seven yards.
We saw the very upset George Pickens multiple times. Friarmouth
was a non factor. You had the play to Johnson
late for the incompletion. Again, you know what constitutes interference
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or contact At this point, I don't know the rules anymore,
and that's fine. They had a bad false star penalty
on a long snapper that should have been encroachment. If
we go into the minutia of the game, if that's
what you want to do. Uh, it just comes down
to this. Did you expect the offensive explosion that we
got in this one because we sailed past that over under?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
W I to know that we sailed passed it, we
got pasted it, and then we kind of felt like.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Oh we just ye, but we had a whole half
of free money.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
No, we did.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So once that first touchdown one on the board, you thought, hey,
we're getting the thirty. We are getting thirty.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I mean, Ezekiel Elliott had you know four minutes into
the game, he's into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
There will be fantasy points in this game. And really, really,
I mean you saw is it?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Elliot? What do you have like a twenty seven point
night and face?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh no, like twenty three, twenty four points? Yeah, he
had a huge I recommended him on the Eyewatch Reflex
podcast down on at wherever you get podcasts. We're gonna
hit the studios again here in a minute Byer and
I after the show ends. But uh no, I did
not have the guts to pull that trigger. I thought
he'd get some effort in the passing game, and there
he was. And Hunter Henry on his twenty ninth birthday,
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son of Mark Henry. No, not that Mark Henry, the
world's strongest man. No of Mark Henry, twenty nine years old.
Two touchdowns. Happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I mean this is this is a yes, happy birthday.
This is about as bad a two week stretch as
the Steelers have ever had. It's just so unbelievably embarrassing.
And we you know, we keep saying tear down, tear down,
toe and lots of teams that, boy, that's a teardown
because you could say, well, we have talented players, but
it's not working right. Like it's like the steel like
the Chargers are close to being a tear down. You
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can think, oh, it's just Brandon Staley. You've had a
lot of it. You've had the entirety of Austin Eckler's
career to win games, and you couldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Now they're talking now that they need to take carries
away from him and see some more Joshua Kelly. They
saw that when Eckler was out early in the season
that didn't work quite so well.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But there's so many teams that are at that and
the Steelers are at that point where Okay, you think
it's good, you have what but they might be close
to a tear down.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
This is that's how fast it happens in the NFL.
This is bad.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It has been for the Steelers, and like they got
it like thirty years losing the Cardinals and the and
the Patriots back to back. The Cardinals and Patriots are
two and zero against the Steelers and four and twenty
against the rest of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, I tells you where it's at, right.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I think one of the big things that you take
away when you look at the Steelers as well to
thinking about them for a moment, is with Mike Tomlin. Look,
winning cures, all right, Say what you want about Ben Roethlisberger,
the guy that he was, whatever you think of him
there and they won games, right, he extended plays. You
had a bunch of guys that all these years later,
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the stories that they could tell, the documentaries that'll come
out about those Steeler teams. It stayed together because they
were winning until it didn't and then it was time
to cut those guys loose. Yet Mike Tomlin remains and
I keep getting back to you're always gonna ask for coaches,
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what are you gonna find that's better? But there's another
guy that he's had great success, and yes, they're over
five hundred every year, but do they ever feel these
days like they're actually a threat to win anything of substance. No,
they don't, And that's become a yearly tradition. Win some games,
gut some things out, find some pieces. But now that
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you're not playing so well, you're not losing shootouts, what's happening?
You got guys pouting openly in the middle of games
on the sidelines. It's not after the fact or talking
to a media member or doing some cryptic posts on
social It's like, what's he doing over there? Sulkan, we
gonna be able to get him back.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Now it's Johnson, it's Harrison Warren with differing opinions about
Mitchell Trubisky as a quarterback. I mean, it's it's it's
it's it's a mess. Toma's gotta be going, man. I
thought I thought I had a tough one. I had
Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brant. Those guys at least were
great players.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Exactly with that. No, but that's just it, right, It's
it always goes back to the love of talent will
allow you to take on a little more, for lack
of a better term, a little more crazy, a little
more you know, we we've got to try to make
sure we're we're managing the locker room a little bit differently.
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And right now they're in a place they were outgained
all those games. We've done, all the metrics, We've talked
about it for weeks. It's now finally catching up with them.
And on a Thursday night, in front of a national audience,
Bailey Zappi was that guy. Bailey Zappi was that guy.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's how bad it was, man. I mean, Patriots fans
aren't even happy.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Man, we were.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
We were steaming towards the number one pick. Now maybe
out the window for us. Well that you said that
cost us, Drake may Dannit. I bet you, I bet you,
I bet you. I want to because I keep telling
about Belichick. Either he's tanking because he doesn't want the
Patriots to win, or he's lost his fastball as a coach.
Right either way, like I said, I don't want him
as my coach next year. But just think about this.
(09:59):
Let me throw this out there. Belichick now knows he's
going to a new team.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
We had the story today that some personnel execs think
that he could fetch as much as a first round
pick from another team who wants him. Now he knows,
like today was the day he knew I'm gonna be
on a new team next year.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Let's go win these games.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So the Patriots don't have a great pick next year
and they can't get the quarterback they want to.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Now, let's go. Now, the page will win like five in.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
A row to end the season, so they finish up
a generic like six and eleven or or you know
something like that.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
It's like, where are you picking?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, we're picking twelfth, great not getting our quarterback then,
and Belichick's just screwing the Patriots because hey, I'm so
mad that everybody blames me and nobody blames Tom Brady
for anything.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
God, Now, if I can't win, nobody wins.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
If I can't have, if I'm going down, I'm taking
all of you with me.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I like, how about that? How about that?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
So their final four games of the year home against
Kansas City, road games against Denver and Buffalo, and then
a home date with the New York Jet. Those are
the final four and look the last three weeks before
this win on Thursday Night Football ten six loss to
the Colts ten seven loss. Ryland pushes what was it?
(11:12):
Thirty thirty four to thirty five yards? Ten to seven loss?
There and then that great rainstorm six nothing lost to
the Chargers that our guy Frostburg got to go watch
in person. Yeah, think about that. You lose three games,
giving up twenty six points.
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Speaker 1 (12:46):
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We'll have more on that game coming up in a bit.
But what to take away from all the big news today?
Zach Wilson is back as the Jets starter.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Hooray.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
We had that crazy controversy with Bill's head coach Sean
McDermott joining us now in the Hotline Nobody Better NFL
on Fox Inside Our Extraordinary and host of the Unbreakable
Mental health podcast, Jay Glazer, Jay, what's happening Buddy? First
of all, Happy Honikah and who knew he hit the.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Over on this game, huh.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Which we definitely didn't expect. I mean, I will say that,
like going into it, I could see how, like man,
the Patriots different actually played well this year, and how
this is gonna be a bad match up for chritsopurh
just their offenses. It doesn't matter who's calling and play.
The scheme just doesn't work. You know. Obviously Mike Tomlin's
gonna have to overhaul their entire offense for having Trubisky
in there. Well, I could see that. I was very
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surprised that Belly Zappi got up from the Steelers defense
three times early on.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It's really weird, Jay, because you know, the Patriots have
this season where everything is going off, everything's going on,
and then here's Belichick on a Thursday night suddenly in
the like in the way like when we get a
quarterback have a before while we haven't seen this out
of this guy in like five years, Like hey, we
haven't seen a Belichick team out coaching, out manage and
out do a team like this in quite a while,
like we saw tonight.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Well, I don't know so much. I think he did
for the first you know, for the first quarter and
then you know, Steeler obviously wiped out and a whole
you know, huge deficit over there. So I don't know
about that, and it's interesing because you always get my
common same thing, like his teams are always coming back.
So he makes he makes, you know, later game adjustments better,
better than anybody in the league. But again, you look
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at our offense and just you know, they had a
bad scheme with Matt Canada and to try to fix
things and move things in a different direction, have better communication,
and what the worry? He told me that more fruidity
and you know just weren't gonna work. You're gonna have
to make an overhaul of that offense.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, curious these final couple of weeks here in Jay
the boobirds were out in full force there in Pittsburgh tonight.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah yeah, I heard it.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
And right ute, so we're hearing all all the whispers.
I mean, Mike Tomlins and you know Lockstep, you know,
iron clad in that job. I can never imagine it changing.
But you know, then I guess the the unrest is
certainly there, and what do you do to fix it?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Well, they've been unrested, but Mike K's Josh Berwin. The
guy's never had a losing season.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
No, sure, right, no.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
But but on the other side, that's the question, what
happens to Bill Belichick. I don't think him come back.
I see him having some sort of mutually parting over
the ways where he gets paid or you know. But
here's the thing. I think I told you guys this
last week, because that's a couple of weeks, you know,
five years ago. If you have Bill Belichick available and
they said, okay, we could trade him, you'd have thirty
one other teams lining up. But that's just not how
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the league is anymore. Like I kind of look at
the Patriot Way like it doesn't work anymore. You can't
just beat guys down and you know and have that
have that top secret you know everything CIA type of
you know, you know, level of secrecy around the whole
team and you know, which was oh was the patriar
rate for that long? And she doesn't work with guys anymore.
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And that's why I told you guys like this. Listen,
these guys, these players get beaten down so much on
on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook and social media. The
last thing they need these days is get beaten down
by like who they're basically a father figure, now what
a lot of these coaches are, and also a big
brother father figure. And that's why the Dan Campbell and
Demico Ryans and Sean McVay and guys like that, Mike
(16:30):
McDaniel's are working so well. Now it's not that they're
obviously scaring guys and beat them down. It's more of
a you know, kind of telling them what you want
instead of what you don't want and love them up.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You know, it's funny you say that, Jay, because look
as the players evolve, you know, look that those are
the coaches they respond to. Now, if the Patriots were
still a dynasty, it might be different, right, Like, well, hey,
because Belichick was like that way, but Brady was there
and you know, every couple of years you're going to
the super Bowl. But the last three years it's been
this team has just been in disrepair. And Belichick's moves
haven't made, decisions that he's made, haven't worked in And
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I don't know if it's said he's lost.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Look, if I'm Bill Belicheck and I decided to go
coach somewhere else and coming to Greece, I actually say hey,
I want to go somewhere the great GM a great
personnel evaluator, because he doesn't have that. He's not that's
not him. And I think that's been a part of
it downfall her. But the other part of it two,
Like I said, like, man, in the past, you could
keep everything in house, shrouded in secrecy. But it was like, hey,
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everything's in house. You almost kept this cone of silence there.
Now it's social media. There is no in house. There's
as much as you want to keep everything, Oh, it's
just in this building. Man. The moment these guys go
to the lockers, they're all looking on their phones and
they're seeing like there's there's no just hey, in this building,
everything's loud and every voice on there is loud to you.
So it's like I said, I just think that that
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way of coaching is going out the window. Like I said,
I don't you that it affected how I was coaching fighters.
And that was where I got this line from I've
never had patience. And a few years ago and I
have a fighter who kept putting his hands down and
I'm like, dude, stop dropping your hands, stop dropping your hands.
And Randy Gatore stopped me in the middle of it.
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He's like, Hey, you can't tell these guys anymore what
you don't want. You can only tell them what you want. Brady,
what are you talking about. You're about to get my
budget for yelling ready there, He's like, they don't work
that way. They shut down when you tell me you
don't want. When you beat them that well you don't want,
you get up and you get mad, frustrated. You got
shut down now, So instead you just got to tell
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them what you want. Only tell them what you want.
As the best coaching tip I've gotten, and I got
to be honest with you, I had to make a decision.
Can I do it? Do I adjust my coaching style?
And yeah? It was still hard?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So how does Robert sold? Everybody sell Zach Wilson this week?
Tim Boyle, you.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Sell Zach Wilson. But you just you saw, like, man,
there's anybody be worse Boiler, Simmy, actually war.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Maybe the guy started a game and got cut.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Man. It's but but here's the thing, and that's always
been there. The point of just too is like, at
least Zach Wilson get himself out of harms way with
his legs. Their offensive line is so decimated and so
beat up for a while, it's like if we don't
want to get the other guys killed so they can't move,
but we just keep Zack in there. But then, you know, Dak,
I think you know, mostly probably started getting beaten out
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also you just get you know, take that much of
a drubbing also and in New York. So then to
protect him from himself, they're hit him down and probably
goes with anybody else but the bottom line. And that's
why I think also like I think Aaron was looking
at it like, hey, I'm going to come back here
and play no matter what. And it depends like what,
by the way, what morning it is that I think
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that that I think he probably looked at the offensive
lives like you, I'm not going to be you know,
fully healthy when I do come back, and the offense
lives like this, that's going to be a recipe for death.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
NFL On Fox Insider Jay Glazer our guest The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmon Life from the diirec dot
Com Studios. All right, Jay, let me get you your
thoughts on this Sean McDermott story from today. The story
it's four years old, but it breaks today that in
twenty nineteen, in training camp and trying to find a
way to bring the bills together, he used an example
of how the hijackers on nine to eleven worked together
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and asked, you know, what do you think they did
to bring to work together to do what they wanted
to do? And some of the players were surprised by it,
they were shocked. McDermott apologized after it was over. The
player said they really appreciated that, and McDermott went on
the air today and talked about how he apologized for
what he did a few years ago. Not something you
should have done. When you saw the story, you see
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how this laid out, what went through your mind?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
First of all, said it Normally, I'm not one to
throw stones and say anything when somebody said something dumb,
because you got no I say a lot of dumb
stuff out there, but not just dumb. And when I
saw it original, I'm like, there's got to be there's
no way somebody will be this, like just missed the
(21:10):
boat so bad on something like this, No way, And
then he came out, so yeah, I did it. I
did it. I'm like, oh my God, like it really is.
And I just don't know how you could ever look
at it going in for these guys get their speeches ready,
and I'm just getting up there. You can ever sit
there and kind of get your speech right and go,
oh yeah, this is gold. This is going to really
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go over roll with you guys. I just don't. I
don't get in charge a nice guy. He's just you know,
a little different obviously, and that one is a lot different.
And I was, yeah, it was, man, I don't, I dude,
like I said, I can't. I can't figure out why
you would. There's any other thing you can come up
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with to motivate people, but I don't. I don't know
why you think that's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Just pull it back out further Jay at six and six,
then I'm out of the bye week. I mean, how
hot is the seat? Because the timing of this story
is certainly curious, you know what.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I don't know the answer to that, because I would
think you said, Okay, this guy's had one bad season
and that's it. But it seems like they've had a
lot of interpersonal problems over there, and a lot more
things have gone wrong. And I don't know how much
this thing is going to take off of It just
shows how disconnected he really is. Good thing, but you
have one bad season, but this one, this one right
here was It'll be interesting to see how they they
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just move on and recover from it. I don't know,
but and they you know, out say this though. They
have a lot of interpersonal things in there, and it
really gets I think, kept in house more than a
lot of other places. They do a good job. They're
in Buffalo with that.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
I think the four years to come out sure.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Like any other VideA, this out there booth come on
like not media, but like you would think that this
would be out there immediately because it's so tone deaf right.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Jay's on Twitter at Jay Glazer. All right, now, let's
get into the latest Unbreakable podcast. You guy, Kurt Menafee
on your podcast this week?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
How did it go?
Speaker 5 (23:08):
It's great, man, Kurt, and I've been for instance, ninety
five when I was covering the Giants. I started ninety three.
He started covering ninety five, and people just don't see,
you know, the past we've taken to get to where
we are. And you know what they also don't see
about Kurt is the year that he was just man.
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He was fighting away, he was doing anything he could.
He's like, I was going to be a producer. I
was going to do this. I'll do be a camera
anything he could just to get there, and doing high
school sports and college fort and here is an Emmy
Award winner broadcasting whole time. But he started doing high
school sports in college and since any little thing he
could in Iowa, right, and then Jacksonville in Dallas, Atlanta
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and New York. Like he's bounced throughout the amount of
work you put in on your journey. And I think
a lot of people now say they see us where
we are now, but they don't see those years of
us just kind of scrounge enough money to do anything.
And you know Kurt in Snow literally walking up hill
with cameras and this and that and trying not to
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look like he's you know, he's a blizzard man trying
to do a hit for I don't know if it
was local high school, whatever it is, but it's man.
You put this timing to get where you are, and
you mess up over and over and over, and you
met are told no, you can't do this here, over
and over and over and the amount of rejection that
you fight through. He gets where you are. And here's
people don't know about Kurt. Go listen to this episode
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because he's the most genuine human being in the world.
And again I've noticed it's ninety five and the amount
of work that he would put in. All the TV
guys we're like, come in and get a sound bite
and they take off, and Kurt would say, stay around,
like he's an NFL inside work relationships and work, you know,
work the room works it, give me a stay there
late and and try and get these relationships doing it,
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and then what's a relationship based business? But it was
so cool to have him at work. People could hear
it and know and look he and I my first
my break, I guess my first paid TV job and yeah,
my first paid job in TV was an MSG network
in ninety seven, I think when I did a show
(25:15):
called Unnecessary Rough This. It was a weekly Jet Giant
show and we had to convince the Jet and Giant
to drive into New York City do a show at
Madison Square Garden, the little tavern over there during the
rush hour for zero money for nothing. And they asked me, though,
who what player do you want to host it with?
I said, I don't want to host you a player.
(25:36):
I want to host you with Kurt Benifite. And I said,
what we want to do with the Jedier drives for?
I said, I don't I want to do with Kurt
because I want to learn how to do TV. I'll
let her it be better on TV. I want to
learn how to host and literally that that was my choice,
and it was he and I And the crazy part was, again,
we're in New York City, a rush hour. These guys
could get nothing. So most of the time our guest
(25:56):
spelled out, so we always called straight ahead to beil
up out would come straight at Kurt. All those years
Man did in Madison Square are going but Kurt would
Trey understood too, and Kurt would tell him too. And Michael,
you're not getting money out of this, but you want
to do TV. This is your way to get reps.
There's a good way to get reps, more and more reps.
And that's what Michae will drive into the city was
(26:17):
living in the city and get these reps with us.
Also we have man, we have an incredible journey together. Man.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
See I wait for you to say.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
He's also the guys on Sunday when I'm having my
mental health issues literally Sunday, I told Kurt nobody else
for all these years, and I'm really kind of having
you know, the roommates in my head are not getting
along well. Before our show, I'll come in shirt. Kurt
and I were sharing your pressing room and I'm like, dude,
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I'm not in a good place and here's why and
here's what. And he would listen and calm me down
and make sure I'm good, and make sure Terry's good,
and make sure everybody else is good, and go after
and host our show and like there is man, it's
an art to host and the best sports show of
all time. But it's even more impressive when he's selflessly
making sure all his teammates are good quietly without the
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rest of the world knowing it, so we could be
good and better. It's not as strong TV, but just
as a friend. He's been my therapist theramount for years.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
On Twitter at jay Glazer, that is at Jay Glazer.
Get the link as well. The latest Unbreakable podcast with
Kurt Menafie. Wherever you get your podcast, it is there.
Unbreakable a mental Health podcast again and Jay is on
Twitter at Jay Glazer, but he is always man. Appreciate everything,
enjoy the games this weekend. We'll talk to you next week.
(27:34):
Always a great visit with Jay Glazer.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Now a little bit more on the McDermott thing here,
because this is you know, Mike, I see this and
I go there's you know, whatever advice we like to
give out here on the show over the course of
the last nine years and stuff. There's some stuff people
will listen. You should listen to all of it. But
there's some stuff people listen to. Some stuff people don't.
But let me just say this because this is something
that top to bottom needs to be listened to. If
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you are in sports and you want to compare something
to sports, stay away from nine to eleven and World
War two. It's that simple. Stay away from it. Stay
away from it. It's just nothing you are doing compares
to one of the worst day, the worst day any
of us have experienced in American history.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
And a bleep in World War nothing. Nothing. No, you
are trying to figure out how to get players to
work together. You're ahead, guy, I get that. Maybe Sean
mcdermt's a little bit too coaching mc coach.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And like, hey, I want to I want to find
some way to grab everybody's attention. And if I mentioned
the nine to eleven hijackers, dude, are you kidding me
with that?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Really, stay away from that. That's just stupid.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I mean, I don't understand anybody that wants say yes,
whether you're on television or whether you are a coach
or a player. And I'm going to compare it to
nine to eleven or World War two. Just don't do that,
because that's just stupid.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Talk about, you know, building something, putting a puzzle together, anything.
But one thing that comes out of that McDermott story, Jason,
somebody really hates him.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Oh yeah, to hold on that for four years, four
years when I'm gonna come out.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Now you're five hundred. You're struggling all of this, like
you know what really toxic environment around there. Let me
tell you about this story from twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, going into the game against the Chiefs, it's a
big if they lose their under five hundred.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Oh yeah, sure, one hundred percent. Man.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
And look, and all this did really is if he
wasn't on the hot seat, he's further on it now, like, sure,
this just expands the hats boy, because obviously it could.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
It couldn't have been that.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Bad of a result because he did apologize for it,
say he was sorry because he's still the coach.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Well, because maybe they squashed it in the moment and
everybody was seemingly fine with it. But what happens winning
and notoriety and all the popularity of Josh Allen the
rise and everything they had going. It cures all ills
and pushes that to the background. Go six and six,
have some other personnel issues. Dismiss your oc all of
(29:58):
a sudden, it's like, hey, you'll you never guess what
happened back in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Just stay away from nine to eleven and World War Two.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's that simple time now to find out what's trending
in the wide world of sports. With special delivery Steve
to seger A, Steve, what do you got, my friend?
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Quite a stat regarding Bill Belichick, as his Patriots did
get a win tonight at Pittsburgh twenty one eighteen, the
league going to the fourth quarter tonight was twenty one
to ten. Belichick in the regular season or playoffs, when
his team is up by eleven or more going to
the fourth quarter. They've won one hundred and fifty nine
straight games, including tonight. In fact, as a coach in
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those situations, he's won sixty three to one overall, with
the lone loss blowing the eleven point league going to
the fourth That came as Brown's coach in nineteen ninety two,
when he lost to the Houston Oilers seventeen to fourteen.
Beit a while Patriots led twenty one three at Pittsburgh
tonight in the second quarter, Bailey's app three touchdown passes,
(31:01):
two to tight end Hunter Henry Pats end a five
game losing streak. They actually scored tonight, at least in
the first half.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
They scored a lot.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
The Pats last seven drives, six punts in an interception,
but they held on for victory. Ezekiel Elliot one touchdown,
nearly seventy yards rushing plus over seventy yards receiving. Steelers
running backs nineteen carries just forty yards on the ground.
Pittsburgh has lost three of four. They were only averaging
twelve points a game in these previous three games until
(31:30):
not scoring much tonight. Out for Pittsburgh was quarterback Kenny Pickett.
Mitch Drubisky had one touchdown pass, one TD run, one
costly interception, and linebacker Alonso Heismith left with a neck injury.
Kicker Robbie Gold retired after eighteen season, spent his first
eleven years with the Bears. Chiefs running back Isaiah Pacheco
(31:51):
missed practice again with a shoulder injury. Wide receiver of
the Browns Amari Cooper is in concussion protocol. Still he
did not practice. Running back of the Jets, Breece Hall,
with a bad ankle, misspractice again, but says he expects
to play on Sunday. Saints wide receiver Chris Olave misspractice
today due to illness. Wide receiver of the Packers Christian
Watson miss practice with a hamstring injury. Green Bay running
(32:14):
back Aaron Jones returned to limited practice with a bad knee,
and quarterback news Lamar Jackson of the Ravens misspractice due
to illness. Jacksonville's Trevor Lawrence was limited in his return
to practice from the Monday high ankle spray, and Seattle
quarterback Gino Smith was limited with a groin injury. Just
two NBA games tonight, the semifinals in Vegas of the
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inn Season Tournament. Indiana beat Milwaukee won twenty eight to
one nineteen Tyrese Halliburton twenty seven points, fifteen assists and
no turnovers. In fact, Halliburton has posted now a third
game this season already with at least twenty five points,
fifteen assists and no turnovers.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Steve. That comes to an end Saturday.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
They're going to be playing the Lakers in the tournament
final on Saturday. By the way, this is for Halliburton,
who did play for Team USA this past summer. No
other player in their career has more than one such
game since they started tracking turnovers on the statute forty
five years ago. Lebron James had no turnovers tonight, thirty
points and eight assists in the Laker win in dominant
(33:18):
fashion over New Orleans one, thirty three to eighty nine.
Tournament championship is Saturday Tomorrow night. In the NBA thirteen
regular Games College basketball, Iowa State whipped Iowa ninety to
sixty five. Bronnie James is expected to make his USC
debut this Sunday in the NHL's late game at Seattle.
Devils hold on two to one over the Kraken la
(33:41):
is four nothing winners at Montreal and the Kings are
eleven to zero on the road to start the season.
Masters champ John Rahm is leaving the PGA Tour for
Live golf. LSU quarterback Jaden Daniels' AP's College Football Player
of the Year. We'll find out the Heisman winner this Saturday.
Also this Saturday in college football, Army versus Navy in Foxboro, Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Back to you, Thanks a bunch, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
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Speaker 4 (34:08):
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Speaker 1 (34:13):
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It's behind the It's beyond the Lakers and the Pacers.
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Speaker 2 (34:27):
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Speaker 3 (34:39):
Bench didn't mess you up.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Got the play of the night coming your way in
a couple of minutes. But with what we've seen, Mike
from the NBA In Season tournament, right, it's been a
big success.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Right, fantastic players like it.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
They've pumped it up. The courts get more and more
crazy as we go on. I mean to nine be
the Vegas quiber. I'm expecting like a Bob Ross court
or some kind you know, let's.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Get hey Bob Ross really in.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, i mean, what are we gonna get next to
the courts?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
All crazy?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Well, you got a lot of problems with the Bob
Ross is you know, and who owns the rights to
his stuff? Yeah, it's an interesting thing. But they just
did a training card set through tops sold like Gangbusters
set where everybody's got the Bob Ross hair. Oh Rushman,
Bob Ross hare, Bob Ross, you get Mookie Betts Bob
(35:29):
Ross hare.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
So while this is going on and again you're gonna
see Bob Ross courts now, look happy little clouds on
the court. The real impact of this NBA In Season tournament.
It's been a success, and now there are some changes
the NBA is going to have to happen.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
They might have to move this into January.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
We got a great answer from Mark Medina early in
the show on why they had at the beginning of
the season this year. But there's gonna be some changes,
but overall this has been a big success. And I'll
tell you what because of this six in the next
couple of years. Hockey MLS, who already does some sort
of cup, but now they're gonna have like an MLS
(36:07):
and season type tournament, and Major League Baseball they are
all gonna have some kind of in season tournament to
increase relevancy, popularity, television ratings because in season tournaments work,
and it's still it's gonna be in the same vein
of games will count in the regular season schedule. It
will be, but you are gonna see some kind of
(36:29):
in season tournament NHL right away.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I'm sure they're gonna have it right away.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
MLS will be, as I said, they'll have to figure
it out because they do some kind of in season tournament.
But they're all outside of MLS, I mean an in
season for all of them. But Baseball is gonna be
the big one because they've seen the popularity of the
world baseball class and now they'd love to keep doing that.
But you can't do it more than every few years.
They're gonna find a way to say, hey, here's a
little juice to the middle of this year. It's not
(36:54):
just the All Star break, but we're gonna have the
in season tournament, and they're gonna make some kind of
way to have some kind of in season champion, And
maybe it's something that happens in late July. We come
out of the All Star Break into the n season tournament.
That would be pretty cool to have it for a
couple of weeks and have some kind of champion. That
would be a really fun thing. And Baseball's gonna find
(37:15):
a way to do it, and they're gonna be the
big ones that cut through with an nd season tournament.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, I think when you look at it, you're trying
to figure out what the next iterations are for each
of your sports. Right to have the interest in command
for a full season where you don't have these large gaps.
Certainly we've seen for Major League Baseball, adding another wildcard
has kept cities alive and the interests there down the stretch,
(37:40):
So you're trying to expand upon that, so where there's
money to be had and where you can reach deeper
into the partners' pockets and all your broadcast partners can
pony up some more money, grab more of your core
advertisers to get them some more exposure. They're in right,
and that where you go for each of these sports.
(38:02):
Try to figure out the best way to lay it
inside of your season and keep it going. The curiosity
coming out of this tournament, Jason is all right, you've
had some really intense basketball for a couple of weeks.
And you know, for those that haven't watched it, maybe
you know they dismiss it, Ah, whatever, gimmick whatever. We've
watched it night after night. There have been some really
(38:24):
intense basketball games. Now, the Pelicans suck today. So when
the rest of the world came to this one and
started watching, like that's what we got a beat, I
was like, no, it's the Lakers are.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Back telling you it's been fun. Saturday's gonna be fun.
It really is taking all and I mean, I'm telling you,
Wade baseball starts there in season.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
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Speaker 1 (39:05):
Now, I wanted the bad Mitchell Trubisky fourth and two
pass where I'm throwing up a prayer to Deontay Johnson
to be the play of.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
The night and everything.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
He gave himself up. Yeah, the one where he gave
himself up was a worse play.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
But yeah, well we could have had both those plays.
But instead, because you know who our producer is, this
is the play than I.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
They just keep getting them. I'm shocking another one.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
I'm shop all right, there two in a row for
Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
But here's this twty one and I'm gonna say this,
he's improving.
Speaker 8 (39:38):
They haven't won a game by forty points or more
since two thousand and eleven, but they do tonight in
the semifinals of the End season tournament. Lebron James led
the charge in twenty three minutes.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Kevin Harlan and Doc Rivers on the call.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Hey, he's getting better, right, I could CoA Sure it
doesn't work out for Darvin Ham comeing to coach.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I could do.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
It from Mike up Jason coming up next, my buddy
Ben Mallar.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
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