April 19, 2024 • 37 mins
Jason and Mike tell you why Deion Sanders needs some advice from outside the Colorado program. And the guys dish out some BIG BOLD NFL Draft predictions!
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For the first round of the draft.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's been a while since Dion Sanders decided, Hey, everybody,
remember me, Remember last September when I was the only
story in the world. Hey, I'm gonna be a story again.
And this is now a situation where Dion Sanders needs
some pr advice from outside the program, because Dion's always
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one of those guys, Hey are you inside the program?
Do you know he needs advice from people who see
the program from the outside. Dion has been asked in
the last twenty four hours a few times about hey, man,
you just had twelve guys hit the portal.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You had your your.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Kids on social media saying, hey, if you're hitting the portal,
if you're on defense, talk to me. If you're on offense,
you talk to Shador. So your kids are now running
the transfer portal. So he's had a bit of a
last couple of days. But people leaving Colorado is a
big thing, and he doesn't like when people bring it
up that way. Here's a sample from his press conference
(02:12):
earlier today about what he thinks about people bringing up
the portal and asking him questions about losing players and
who he's going after.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Are you losing some guys to the portal? What are
you looking forward to? Re establish what position groups are
you hunting.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I wish you guys do a little more homework when
you start talking about the portal and understand.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
What we're losing. What are we losing? I got time today,
but are we losing potential starters and.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Potential where.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Tight end running back?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You haven't been watching break zough? Amen, We're good.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I like Dean, I got time today. I got nothing
going on though, talk about this here. So you heard
on one of the guys in the background say backups,
what do you lose and losing backups? So Dion's upset
because it was thrown out. Hey, here's twelve guys leaving.
One was a very highly recruited running back last year
that Deon Sanders got. That's leaving and Dion did say
good things about him, which hope he succeeds wherever he
(03:22):
winds up going. But yeah, you have twelve guys going
to the transfer portal and now here's Dion. This is
why now he needs advice from people outside the program.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Right. Two big points I'm gonna make.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The first one is this is that from outside the program,
outside the program, everything he has done and he has
shown me and shown all of us is that if
you're a good player, he loves you. If you're not important,
he could give a crap. Now, I get that most
coaches in sport, they love their starters the most. You
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have the better relationship with them because you're coaching them more,
you're coaching them harder because they're playing.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But if you are a player that wants to go
play for him, if you are a coach that wants
to send a player to go play for him, if
if you really want to keep bringing kids in, don't
you want to be a little bit welcoming. Don't you
want these kids to know that, Hey, even if you're
not starting, you're still my player, you're still family, you're
still you're still want to You're still one of my guys.
And maybe it works out here and you play, maybe
(04:22):
you go to the transfer portal. Okay, if that's the
way college football is now. But to be so so
abrupt with what are we losing? We're not losing anybody,
I mean, what what does that say? I get that, yeah, okay,
you don't feel you're losing people who are going to
contribute to your team next year, But what does that say?
What messages that put out there to other players. You
want to go play for Deon Sanders. This is where
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coaches and parents go. You want to go play for
him if things don't go well, Look, he's just cutting
these guys loose.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
He does not care. He's he and.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Even if he does, he wants to use this as
a as a thing with the media because all the
media're not paying attention to practice. Well, they don't allow
people in to watch practice, so we kind of have
to go by what we see and what's reported. So
I'm gonna use this as as as a political football.
See I'm going to use this thing as a political
football to air some gripes I have against the against
(05:11):
the press. So first thing outside the program, I look
at it and go, boy, if you're a great player,
he loves you, because all the great players he loves,
talking about his son, about Travis Hunter, so many good
players right love. But if you're if you're not good,
I understand most coaches they don't sit there and go,
but you have to least make it look like, hey,
you're part of the team. It's like if you're a backup,
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I don't care about you. Even if you're on the team.
What are we losing backups? What do I care about backups?
Guess what, No matter what happens, if these guys leave,
there's guys who are going to be backups at these
positions through over the course of the season. So they
know I'm not really valued because I'm a backup. So
you have So Now what you've done is you've made it.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Look to the.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Guys that want to come there, Hey, do you really
want to go there? Because if you don't play right away,
he's got no value in you. And if you go
there and you don't go and you don't transfer, you
have no value anyway. Because this is what he thinks
about backups, like saying that is so such an awful thing,
and it's it's it's part of what's gone into since
he's come into Colorado. When he first came in, what
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he had a meeting with the whole team, this exciting. Hey,
you guys are get to get ready hit the transfer portal.
Uh Okay, you know I remember at the time, going
I understand that first meeting. You're these kids who have
played football their whole life, that took scholarships to come
to college work their asses off.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Maybe they're not good enough. I understand that, but these are.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Still kids who work hard, These still kids who put
the rest of their lives on hold to play a
game that maybe they're not gonna play anymore in three years.
And the first thing you say is, guys, better hit
the portal. My son's coming in. I got guys coming in.
You want to hit the portal, Go hit the portal.
Like this, he doesn't care at all about players unless
you are helping his star power as a coach, or
you're a star player on the field helping him win.
And you got has shown me that you care about
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more than just that. Well, the funny thing about it
is what was the problem with their squad last year?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
They had no depth, particularly on the lines.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Right hastily built obviously get out there and you've got
a couple of all class players you mentioned his son
and Travis Hunter, and that's great.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Not a lot of depth. So what happened?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Eventually they got slapped around, right, they got beat up,
and Shadur spent a lot of time on his ass
based on the inefficiencies and in effectiveness of that offensive line.
The optics matter. They still matter, even if you're a
Hall of famer all over the place, and you played
two sports and all of the greatness that deon Sander,
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there's still there's now a coach, right, and there's still
some rules of engagement that still apply to it and
the optics of it in the program and outside of
as you say, get getting the next level of recruits.
You still need the field more than twenty two guys.
So if you're not his guy, you're completely expendable. And
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he's letting you know that coming in. And I guess
folks are gonna be okay with it because they want
to go to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
They want that experience. And that's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
You know, you take phillip rosters and and take your scholarship.
But how much joy could there be in that experience
if you're not the A list starter just go The callous,
cold way that he dismisses the back of players is
(08:27):
really something special, right. For as much as we've talked
about coaches in history, and you know how they wouldn't
translate today, men, is he translating right now?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He did for a month, yeah, ga, when he was
new and he did great things. He turned Colorado into
a destination very quickly. Well, you had guys that were
falling all over themselves to go coach with him and
be there, I want to go and players saying I'm
putting Colorado in my top three.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
But you can't just sit there and say, all right,
there's got to be more to that, right, And as
you said, you said the word destination. That's the second
part that Dion's got it that from outside the program,
you want Colorado to be a destination. There's such a
thing as too much new style. Went Beastie Boys again,
there's too much new style.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
For Dion.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
This is a different way to do it, completely different,
and everything he's done has been completely different. But when
you're picking a college to go to, yes, nil, money matters,
everything matters, But you want the program you go to
to seem like it has long term stability to it.
And Dion is not fostering long term stability. He is.
(09:38):
He is fostering things can change any single day, and
that's not what you want when you're going to say
I want to go somewhere or I know stability, and
this is what the situation is going to be. And
this is kind of where as unpredictable as college football
is for the individual player.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They want to know.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Okay, this is what my experience is gonna be like,
this is kind of what I like, I don't want
to know going in that my position. Coach you recruited
me is gonna get blown out of this. If we
lose three games in a row, the OC's gonna get fired.
There's gonna be all kinds of crazy stuff going on.
Am I gonna stay on coaches good side? Am I
gonna not be on coach Prime's good side? You need
to show that there's a little bit of stability there
to it, that it's not just something that, hey, it's
(10:13):
all new and we're rewriting the rule book of college
football as we go. Okay, I get that you have
something new and it's great, but you got a show
stability and the Colorado shows zero stability. Well, I remember
we were celebrating here, you and I and I trumpeted
and you know his name is Sean Lewis. When things
are going well, and what happened. It went bad and
he cut him loose, just like like backups. So now
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he's going to be the San Diego State coach and
we'll see what kind of wizardry he could do there.
But the other thing, you know, when you talk about stability,
how much of this success and how much of his
coaching acumen is predicated on the fact that he's got
his kids and he's got Travis Hunter. Oh what happens
when they leave? Right, that's the next part of it, right.
(10:55):
And I loved last week that he he had the
team meeting and he had the notes from the professors
or whatever. That was a nice little story right of Hey,
no slacking in class, go be accountable, all that great message.
But then on the back end of it, he's, yeah,
you guys can all be gone tomorrow and we'll move on.
(11:16):
And to try to be adversarial with the media, Like
the numbers are the numbers.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You lost twelve guys.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You don't have to like them all equally. We get that, Yeah,
it's still twelve guys. You've now got to figure out
you don't have to be mad at the person asking
the question, Hey, you're losing twelve guys. What are you
looking to bring in?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, what like like suddenly he's mad at Like it's
not like someone sad, Hey you lost these twelve players,
and you are hurting it. This is what are you
looking to bring in? And now I'm mad. No one's
looking at our practice. It's about so you're not going
to softball? A question is she could have asked, so
you're not going to bring in new players? Well, you're
saying you don't need anybody else? Is that you tell
me that? Then if that's your point, we don't. We're
not bring anybod else.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
We're good. We're not getting out those We got it
out the practice. Yeah, in practice field we're great.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Wall the same guy that's that, that's the four string
right outside linebacker, he's gonna be forest ring a left
outside linebacker.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
We're fine. We're fine with her not bringing it like
he he he.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Whatever mood he was in going into today, he let
that get to him and and and kids. You know,
as much as they they they love the attitude of him,
and you love the charisma of Deon Sanders there, but
they want to know, Hey, coach is not just going
to be someone who flies off the handle all the
time or or or I don't want to walk around
eggshells on him.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I want to know I have value. I want to know.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I want to know, Like I said, I want to
know I have value if I'm a backup player. I
want to know their stability with this, with this team,
and he does not show that. I feel like every
day in Colorado kids go to practice.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And walk out a up. I don't know what today
is gonna bring, but it's not gonna be boring. But
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And that's great for a while, but eventually is like
I got to get off this ride. I need a
little bit of stiff. I can't have every day be
this way. Well, the big selling point was us against
the world, right, and that became a cultural thing. It
became a college the other like we've been talking about
with with Caitlin Clark, college basketball into the WNBA. It's
the you weren't here and now you're on board?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Right, People who.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Didn't give any care about college football were suddenly Colorado
fans and jumped on, Okay, how long are you one
of the us?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
If you're one of the players, that's really the question.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Like everybody else may still be on board with what
he's he's trying to sell, but what do you need
to do? Are the rules of engagement for you clear
enough to where you stay on the on the good
side of things, or you become the next guy in
a press conference that becomes who are we losing?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
So no one's inside the program like you.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I get it, but this is what it looks like
from outside the program, and this is not something that
you want.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So there you go. Free advice for deonce. How did
nobody ask him about the funny overalls he was wearing?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Maybe after that question, I don't think people wanted to
ask that. Well, I don't think they want to. They
didn't want to respond. I'm gonna ask the overall question.
Oh h do you have a question? Oh no, no, I'm
never I don't need to a coach. Let's light this
thing up. I'm good, I'm good. I haven't seen those since,
like oshkosh was a thing. Are you chamming a little
little Vince Wilfork here?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I remember wearing wearing, uh, wearing.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Overalls like that, and and how excited I was, like
because I liked wearing the shirt under it.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
When I was a kid, I loved wearing overalls. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yah yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Then they got fashion when I was in high school,
they got fashionab because then it was fashionable to just
have the.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
The one the one side and done done in the
other side not done.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And then that became a whole fashion statement, and that
became really big and and and music artists started wearing
it that way. It's like overalls became a big thing.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
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Be honest with yourself. You're driving down the road with
young Catherine right now. Say when you're stop at that apartment,
go right inside. Don't help the man with a broken
arm trying to get a couch in the back of
his And certainly when you're helping him, don't get into
the van. Stand the outside of the van. Let him
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get into the van. Also, ask yourself why a man
with a broken arm is trying to move a couch
into a van.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Late at night. Ask yourself that young Catherine, would you
talk to me? Stop? What stop? Say?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Movie?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Stop? Stop? Stop? He wanted he wanted to be tuck
denn He's ready to go to sleep. How about that
Tiktucklery's young Catherine his way thing?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Hey speaking of music before he gets Kitlin Clark speaking
of movies, rather movies movies, this really pissed me off today.
So the trailer for the new m Night Shyamalan movie
comes in. Yeah, but Josh hartne in it, and it's
you know, it's a horror thriller movie. And they give
away the whole bleeping movie in the trailer, which is usane.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Okay. So the movie's called Trap and and right now,
and the setting of it is you know, and here's it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Because I'm a good guy, I'm not going to give
you the spoiler they give you in the trailer, so
I'm not trust me.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's called Trap, and it starts Josh Hartnett back in Hollywood,
Josh hart So, Josh Harton is a dad and he's
bringing his daughter.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
To a concert.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Okay, great, and then at the concert you find out
there's some weird things happening. They're like, okay, that's kind
of a cool little push right there. He sees his
police everywhere and they're bringing people outside from outside.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Pretty good. That's pretty good. Try I like that so far.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Then you find out that in the trailer that the
reason for all the police presence is that there's a
serial killer on the loose. And the whole concert and
the whole concert is being put on so they could
catch the guy because they're pretty sure he's at the concert.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
No, I don't know how you would figure out of
guys there and not know who it is.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's kind of care but anyway, so, and that's why
the police is here and the whole concert's being put
on so they can catch this guy. And I was like, oh, okay,
I don't know that I would have put that in,
but that's pretty good. Now, that's a pretty good hook.
And then in the last minute of the trailer, they
give away the biggest thing in the movie, and I'm like,
why would you give that away? Now, maybe this reveal
(18:24):
that I'm talking about happens in the first fifteen minutes
in the movie, right, and maybe it's not something that
oh at the end of the movie. Guess what, Maybe
it's the first fifteen minutes. But there's no reason to
spoil that. There's no reason to spoil it. It's it's
silly to put that in the trailer. Suddenly, okay, well
that's pretty good. Oh oh, and here's a spoiler. Oh okay, crap,
that's such a great that was such a great thing,
(18:45):
and there was no reason no.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Reason you got God, I was just stupid. I would
say that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
The thing that you just have to take away from
it is that it is m night, which means there's
going to be a twist. I'm gone, no, no, no, no,
there might be other twists, but that's a great twist.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Oh no, absolutely the way you said it, sure like
I said I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Wasn't a big the biggest fan of Hey, they're trying
to catch a serial killer at a concert, which like, okay,
because that gives me there's a lot of problems with that,
but it sounds intriguing.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Okay, I'm good with that.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You want to put that in there, but then you
give away something huge, the huge for the movie, and
I'm like.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Why would you do that in the trailer? Why would
you do that? I felt like admir lockbar that's.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Because he wanted wants the rest of people that haven't
stopped going to his movies to leave this one alone too.
I don't know why you come out Let's go back
to that elevator one Devil or whatever that.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
So much like, what why'd you give that away? There's
no way I'm gonna forget it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
When the movie comes out later on this summer, you know,
because there's sometimes I'll read about a book I want
and I'll say, oh, that seems pretty good. I want
to read more about it, and then I'll put it
on my list. I go, Okay, great, I'll get this book,
you know, but I can forget about that. But when
I see a trailer like that, I'm like, I'm not
gonna forget it. Here's a big reveal in the movie,
like what the hell is So someone had already solved
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the the maze in your in your book when it came.
This is like watching a trailer for the Empire Strikes
Back and here's Vader and here's everything and the well,
it wasn't the title, and the Vader says, Luke, I
am your father.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Wait what it name? Time Vader his father in German.
You didn't get that, Jesse, some of you've never seen
an m Night movie without telling me you've never seen
an M Night movie. No, I've seen them. I clearly
didn't spoil nothing. Yeah well no, yeah, you didn't like
the way you said that. That's a big siler. That
spoil left you think he's not dumb. He's gonna cost
(20:43):
the company billions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Dude, he put himself in a movie as the as
the as the best writer in the history of the world.
He was gonna save the world.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Why would you not do that? I would yourself. I
had the cloud to do that. Are you kidding me?
Had a character and get.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Me, had a character that only lifted weights with one arm.
Why didn't lift with the other arm at all?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Some folks? Sure, no, stop you always say don't scoop
lag day, don't skip leag. Not onlys you scoop lag
you shouldn't, but other people do. That's you.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Look, he also has the Nepo baby problem with this movie. Well, yeah, hey,
guess what. The woman who plays the singer is my
is my daughter?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Now about that?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Uh so again, I mean it may not be the
biggest the biggest twist in the movie, I get it,
But that was a big twist you didn't need to reveal.
It was such a good premise and such a good
they got me interested. Now I'm like, oh, now I know.
Now I'm just hoping it's in the first ten minutes
of the movie. You find out what they told you
at the end of day. Do you know the ending
the Jets games after the first play, yet.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You still watch it. Yeah, but how they get there
is so interesting. It's not it's not just the destination.
It's the journey. Don't you know?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It gonna be interceptions? Is it gonna be fumbles? Is
it gonna be a Mary Picks six at the end
of the first half? What's gonna be?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
What's it gonna be? Are we gonna get past the
fifth play? Now I'm gonna hurt you now. Now, I'm
gonna hurt you now, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Break off. I leave tonight because I park right next
to him. I'm gonna I'm gonna open my driver's side
door really wide. You'd be prepared because I'm gonna swap
some paint with you. I'm gonna swap some pet like.
This is gonna be uh like, like this is the
end of Daytona the right of me because the guy
that parked there before was terrible. Oh really, no, I
had a better park. But I can easily I could
(22:21):
put a nice door into your door and just want
to do that.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You'll get a nice big swab a black paint.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Right. I'd rather you at least key the car like
you always threaten and put a nice design on this.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Okay, you just heard Harmon gave me the okay to
key his car. You just heard it.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I got the okay, cops, I said, I would rather
cops can't come after me the former of keying the
car rather than the slamming in. There's no art, there's
no artwork, just just slamming.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
The door into my car.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Jerk.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, just as anyone who's ever played the game, would
you rather whatever you answer or something you wouldn't mind doing.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Everybody knows that. Okay, it's not okay, I wouldn't mind
doing that over this. Everybody knows that. Well. I would
always choose secret options to what a great movie the game? Now,
the game was a great one, Michael Douglass. We just
watched that the other night with Zoe for the first time.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Really.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I started a Franklin his new show on Apple
Ben Franklin. Yeah, oh no, he plays Ben Franklin. Okay,
all right, you know he discovers electricity. Spoiler, sorry, shock
her when you see the string and the key, that's
gonna be the best part. Jason, I'm actually shocked that
you think he would give away a big plot line
(23:29):
in his brief I'm not saying it's the biggest twist,
but it's a big reveal that would have just added
to the movie.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
If people didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Going in, I get you just don't watch the trailer. Yeah,
but how do you get people interested in watching the movie?
Of course, that's about the director in the movie premise.
If you just said to me, a new M Night
Shamalan movies coming out should be enough. If this was
two thousand, I would say yes, But it's twenty twenty four.
It's the old I've seen twenty twenty four. Yeah, then
that movie made me older.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I can't with you. It's two hours. I'm never getting
there's two hours of good movie. There's two hours a
lot of M.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Night Shyamalan movies. I'm not getting back. He's very hit
and miss. He's very hit and miss. He's a I
like the Village.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Village was good. He's so hit.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Lady in the Water was terrible to really Yeah, but
uh no, but I'm saying he's hit and miss.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
So I need the trailer. Hey, is this an M
Night Shyamalan movie? I need to go see. Okay, I
Elevator with the Devil. It looks awesome, It looks awesome,
and then here's a reveal that you don't need to
put in the movie. Was it the kid who Saw Dead? People?
Don't tell anybody, don't tell anybody. Don't tell mebody, don't
tell me, tell me?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
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Speaker 3 (24:36):
One thing I know for certain going forward is.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
That the more time I realize people are just gonna
face plant trying to talk about Caitlyn Clark and women's sports,
it is going to be something to watch long tenured
members of the media just absolutely throw up on themselves
because they don't know how to talk about women's sports
or Kitlyn cl without face planting, without making themselves look awful.
(25:03):
The last two days, there's been a lot of backlash
Caitlyn Clark and what went on with Indianapolis Star columnist
Greg Doyle, who is a long time on the one
of the more respected guys in all of sports.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Been had a big, long career and gaining a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Of attention for a couple of things he said at
Caitlin Clark's introductory press conference. The first was this back
and forth that's gained a big level of viral openness
in the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Hi, Caitlyn, Greg Doyle, Indie star, real quick, let me
do this like you like that. I like that you're here.
I like that you're here.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I do that in my family after every game.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So okay, we'll start doing it to me and we'll
get along just fine.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So oh, what he did was he made the heart
the heart gesture, which is what Caitlyn Clark does, and
it was kind of creepy, like, why would you do
That's kind of creepy.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Kind of yeah, kind of creepy. No, very creepy, well,
very creepy. Hey, do that to me will be okay,
all right? Terrible, terrible, terrible and really really bad.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Now, in the last few hours, there's been new video
of a second exchange which he had with the head
coach of the team, Christie Sides, when he said to her,
you were just given the keys to that talking about
Caitlyn Clark, what.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Which honestly, that's even more creepy than the than the
heart thing. When when you I mean, that's like, that's
like something that is that is like when you're in
your early twenties club crass that you hear guys say
about women a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
What are you gonna do with that? Look at that?
Look at that, look at that, and this this is somebody.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Okay, you're a well respected journalist and you're gonna talk
about Caitlyn Clark that way. You're gonna you're gonna talk
about her and objectify her in that way. Again, this
is in public, in front of a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
This is not when when you're when you're by yourself,
hanging out with your buddies and you're talking.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
This is this is you in public and you've just
now embarrassed yourself and you've shown that, Hey, people are
really again, people are really gonna face plant when they
try to talk about Caitlyn Clark and women's sports.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
It's insane. But we've seen a lot of.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
That the last days weeks, where you get takes from
people talking about stuff that just makes it ridiculous. It
could be something as benign as oh, she needs to
win a championship to be the goat, which is stupid,
or uh you know, uh, hey, y WNBA salaries, why
aren't they as high as the men like, which is
stupid as well.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I mean, people are just gonna face.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Plant trying to talk about women's sports and it's crazy,
but it's going to continue. And I just shake my
head because I say to myself, it's not that hard. Okay, Yes,
Caitlyn Clark is different and her story is woven in
and she's gonna have that impact like Magic Johnson and
Larry Bird getting to the NBA Tiger Woods getting to
the PGA Tour, which is hopefully going to raise salaries
(27:54):
and raise merch and raise interest level in the league
and sell more tickets. Like that's the impact she's gonna have.
And I get that, But the rest of it, it's sports.
Like it's sports. There's a reason why. Hey, you go
to ESPN dot com or a different website during the
day and Haley van Litz transfer is on the is
on the front of the page. Gino Orima is saying, Hey,
if we allow one and duns in women's college basketball,
(28:16):
that's going to ruin the sport. Hey who's transferring to
Iowa to take over for Caitlin Clark as the next
great superstar?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Five? These are all big stories. Now, these are all
big stories. How about this? And this is this is
I mean, it's a.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Crazy idea that I have. How about you just talk
about it like it's sports. How about how about that?
I mean, I think that's probably the best advice I
can give you instead of trying to say something crazy
or get caught up in your head with saying something
funny and you wind up looking stupid.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Because I don't want this. I don't want people to
keep looking stupid. And it doesn't. It doesn't.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It doesn't bode well for our profession, It doesn't bode
well for anybody. But how about you just do that
and you treat it like it's a sport. Because that's
the one thing I can tell you. And I don't
like a lot to say about what we do on
the show about where it is compared to other shows,
but they're there's certain things that I know for a
fact in my blood. We do better than any show
in the country, any national sports talk show. Talking football, yeah,
(29:07):
we talked football great, but a lot of people talk
football great. Basketball, Yes, we talked basketball great, but a
lot of people talk basketball great. When we talk baseball.
When we talk women's college basketball, we talk women's national
team soccer, men's national team soccer. When you get outside
of football and basketball. Yeah, we know what we're doing
because we know how to make it.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Hey, what is it?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
It's about the sport, right. We broke down the women's
national team last year at the World Cup. I had
I had an exchange with a with a person in
the media on Twitter direct message saying, Wow, I loved
I love the way you guys broke that down. You know,
I love the way you guys talked about them as
as athletes and as as as what you saw on
the field and what the problems are and what they
(29:51):
need to solve.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And it was great.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It was awesome, And I said, thank you so much.
That's that's awesome. I never thought of it any other way,
like this is this is what it is. Women's national
song team is a big deal. Doesn't matter. It's a
big deal to anybody. Everybody's watching to watch them when
watch them do things. So you talk about them like
you talk about anything else. It's not that difficult. Yet
people make it so hard. And this is Greg Doyle thing.
(30:13):
I'm like, dude, what do you think is God? What
goes through your head where you think, Hey, I'm gonna
be kind of glib and kind of have it out.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Here and say some crazy ass stuff. Well, how do
you think that plays well? Well, look, for the interest
of time, I'll just say it dusly with Doyle.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
He tried to say, well, that's kind of what I've been,
that's the way I've always been. Like, it's twenty twenty four.
It's not don't care to be that way anymore.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Right, you and your buddies are you know, not doing
your job. Go do what you do.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
But when you're in front of the microphone in these
kind of situations, or even in your columns or when
you're on Twitter, you still represent your employer. You've got
to do so responsibly. So that's part of it for us.
Look what we been doing here at Fox Sports Rado
whatever comes on these monitors in front of us, we're
breaking it down live. We're not waiting for reaction. We're
(31:07):
not waiting for a team of writers or somebody to
go through and put stuff together. Like we look at it,
we watch it, and we get after it right away.
And I've always prided you know that part of what
we do do it with I think great care and
without fear. Right, and if we're wrong, guess what the
(31:28):
show will come back on tomorrow and we'll talk about
it some more as more information becomes available. But right
now it's in a great spot. Everybody celebrate that we're
at the party. Now, let's just figure out how to
rule what the rules of engagement of it are. Exit out,
bout of Fresca, exit swelling down. The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carmon, Live from the tirec dot Com Studios. Amazing,
(31:50):
but we're gonna see it. Yeah, and it amazes me.
Oh yeah, last time to answer your trivia question, it's
Lucy Olsen who comes from Villanova, averaging over twenty three points. Again,
Kaitlin Clark's said, welcome to the party. These are all
new Welcome to the party, pals, these are all news stories.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon, Live from the
tire rag dot Com Studios. Coming up next, we'll get
back into the NBA Mike, and I tell you who's
(32:12):
gonna be moving on and into the playoffs in the
playing round tomorrow Night two, Big Game. They're not in
the playing round, ty shirt, They're they're they play themselves
in the round. H sure they can play against themselves? Yeah,
who's moving on? Who's going home?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
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Speaker 2 (32:29):
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Speaker 3 (32:37):
Is this is this bassline heavy opening of song night
ty Shirt? Is that your theme?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I feel like all the songs you're playing have identifiable
bass lines to open a song. Yeah, it's all about
the base base, which makes me think another one bites
the dust is coming up soon?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Ah anymore? So his first night here, you guys are
already on the first name basis. Huh. Yeah, it's nice, Yeah,
it's nice.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Well, Adam Tolbert is his name. That's what it is,
Robert Adam Hulbert. We welcome back, We welcome, thank you
very much.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
It's actually Tim Tolbert, Tom Tolbert.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
That's another one of my favorite Bill Waltons. Oh, Tom Tolbert,
tell me what's happening right now. So we're in a
twenty four hour period of no NBA yep, really no
Major League Baseball as we get ready for an NBA
game or slate of games every day between now.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And July fourth.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Let's get it on Tomorrow night we have the last
two playing games in the East in the West. Who
is coming out with a victory? Mike and I are
going to give you our picks right now, and I'll
start in the West. I would love to pick New
Orleans no Zion Williamson, but I watched New Orleans play
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dead from the neck up until Zion decided I'm gonna
grab this team by the scruff of the neck and
I'm going to try to will us to victory. But
he gets hurt, New Orleans loses. That's not gonna happen again.
Sacramento is a fantastic team. Not all records are created equally.
This is a team that had great heights last year,
lost early in the playoffs, spent some time figuring it out.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Now they're where they need to be. Kings win, they
win by at least ten, and I'll give you this caveat.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Kings win tomorrow night, I will officially pick seeds five
through eight to win in the first round of the
NBA Playoffs in the Western Conference. All right, I'll get
the nine, eight and and we'll have Todd on tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
We'll ask him. Yeah, in the odds for that one.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
The Kings are just a narrow one point favorite in
this game, the over undersitting at two ten. But I
think even with them being down in their rotation, right,
he still had some injuries that you're dealing with there.
What do you trust from the Pelicans?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Righton?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Ingram was terrible. He's still playing. He just came back
off injuries, right. He missed those twelve games down the
stretch where they sank out of a fifths or sixth
seed into the play in altogether. And then he was
on the bench and McCollum couldn't get the broad side
of a barn. What's gonna suddenly change? They were both
Jones or or one of these guys is suddenly gonna
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go nut. No, Sacramento's too deep, too fast, too strong.
They win in a route. All right, Where are you
in the East, my friend? You know where I am?
Oh God, go good bye? Kobe Whiteore Bulls. How many
points are Kobe White tomorrow? Sixty thirty fifty five thirty one?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Another big night against the Heat again down rotational pieces
and now you're down Jimmy Butler as well. The Bulls
are a two point underdog on the road, and the
reason they're an underdog is because they stink. Now that's
a big thing. Remember the Bulls stink. Okay, this is
not just because they're playing. Doesn't mean they're any good.
(35:53):
But just understand that some teams that are playing in
the playing round are good. Some teams in the playing round.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
And they stink. The Bulls stink. Okay, the Heat is
a much better team than the Bulls.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yes, they're missing their best player, and they are missing
a couple other rotational players.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Look, Duncan Robinson was cleared to play. He didn't play.
Miami at home.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Will have enough for one victory without Jimmy Butler. Right,
they're thirteen to nine without him this year. They can
play well. They've played well without him afore. It's not
like he's been light in the world on fire all season. Yes,
you're missing your emotional leader, but I will say Miami's
got enough. Maybe Tyler Hero scores forty, big night for
bam Adebayo, but Miami has enough to beat the Bulls,
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mainly because the Bulls stink. Remember that's a big thing
in picking this game. The Bulls. People forget the Bulls stink.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, they were sub five hundred.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
It's okay, but no, look, I'm not certainly predicting a
blowout win or anything of that. It'll both look at
empty DeRozan White Cruso is gonna play. It looks like
he averted something serious there with the foot and ankle,
so that that hell, I do agree, right, Tyler hero
was what nine of twenty seven that won't be repeated?
(37:05):
I did like that little bogus thing that was going
around bucket hat during the game tomorrow night. He'll shoot
a lot better, trust me. Extra drip, Yeah, like that's good.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Look at you? Does he get it? I'm twenty four.
Hey the new drip is Does he get a big
gold chain hanging down as well? By way, the Bulls win, Okay,
what's your score? One on one to fifty? What's your score?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Balls one hundred and thirty seven? No, ninety four eighty eight,
heats seventy one. There you go there, ninety four eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I like that. So not a lot of offense in
that game. No, I would.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I would pick the Bulls except for one thing. Say it,
the Bulls think that's what.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I hate you? What everything you stand for? We got
more coming up next.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
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Kaitlin Clark. Yes, oh big Kaitlin Clark News every single day.
We got that coming up in twenty minutes. But you know,
as we get ready for the NFL Draft, Thanks to
Jay Glazer for stopping by, we talked about a big
Bowl prediction.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
For the first round of the draft.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's been a while since Dion Sanders decided, Hey, everybody,
remember me, Remember last September when I was the only
story in the world. Hey, I'm gonna be a story again.
And this is now a situation where Dion Sanders needs
some pr advice from outside the program, because Dion's always
(01:34):
one of those guys, Hey are you inside the program?
Do you know he needs advice from people who see
the program from the outside. Dion has been asked in
the last twenty four hours a few times about hey, man,
you just had twelve guys hit the portal.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You had your your.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Kids on social media saying, hey, if you're hitting the portal,
if you're on defense, talk to me. If you're on offense,
you talk to Shador. So your kids are now running
the transfer portal. So he's had a bit of a
last couple of days. But people leaving Colorado is a
big thing, and he doesn't like when people bring it
up that way. Here's a sample from his press conference
(02:12):
earlier today about what he thinks about people bringing up
the portal and asking him questions about losing players and
who he's going after.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Are you losing some guys to the portal? What are
you looking forward to? Re establish what position groups are
you hunting.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I wish you guys do a little more homework when
you start talking about the portal and understand.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
What we're losing. What are we losing? I got time today,
but are we losing potential starters and.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Potential where.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Tight end running back?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You haven't been watching break zough? Amen, We're good.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I like Dean, I got time today. I got nothing
going on though, talk about this here. So you heard
on one of the guys in the background say backups,
what do you lose and losing backups? So Dion's upset
because it was thrown out. Hey, here's twelve guys leaving.
One was a very highly recruited running back last year
that Deon Sanders got. That's leaving and Dion did say
good things about him, which hope he succeeds wherever he
(03:22):
winds up going. But yeah, you have twelve guys going
to the transfer portal and now here's Dion. This is
why now he needs advice from people outside the program.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Right. Two big points I'm gonna make.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The first one is this is that from outside the program,
outside the program, everything he has done and he has
shown me and shown all of us is that if
you're a good player, he loves you. If you're not important,
he could give a crap. Now, I get that most
coaches in sport, they love their starters the most. You
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have the better relationship with them because you're coaching them more,
you're coaching them harder because they're playing.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But if you are a player that wants to go
play for him, if you are a coach that wants
to send a player to go play for him, if
if you really want to keep bringing kids in, don't
you want to be a little bit welcoming. Don't you
want these kids to know that, Hey, even if you're
not starting, you're still my player, you're still family, you're
still you're still want to You're still one of my guys.
And maybe it works out here and you play, maybe
(04:22):
you go to the transfer portal. Okay, if that's the
way college football is now. But to be so so
abrupt with what are we losing? We're not losing anybody,
I mean, what what does that say? I get that, yeah, okay,
you don't feel you're losing people who are going to
contribute to your team next year, But what does that say?
What messages that put out there to other players. You
want to go play for Deon Sanders. This is where
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coaches and parents go. You want to go play for
him if things don't go well, Look, he's just cutting
these guys loose.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
He does not care. He's he and.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Even if he does, he wants to use this as
a as a thing with the media because all the
media're not paying attention to practice. Well, they don't allow
people in to watch practice, so we kind of have
to go by what we see and what's reported. So
I'm gonna use this as as as a political football.
See I'm going to use this thing as a political
football to air some gripes I have against the against
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the press. So first thing outside the program, I look
at it and go, boy, if you're a great player,
he loves you, because all the great players he loves,
talking about his son, about Travis Hunter, so many good
players right love. But if you're if you're not good,
I understand most coaches they don't sit there and go,
but you have to least make it look like, hey,
you're part of the team. It's like if you're a backup,
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I don't care about you. Even if you're on the team.
What are we losing backups? What do I care about backups?
Guess what, No matter what happens, if these guys leave,
there's guys who are going to be backups at these
positions through over the course of the season. So they
know I'm not really valued because I'm a backup. So
you have So Now what you've done is you've made it.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Look to the.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Guys that want to come there, Hey, do you really
want to go there? Because if you don't play right away,
he's got no value in you. And if you go
there and you don't go and you don't transfer, you
have no value anyway. Because this is what he thinks
about backups, like saying that is so such an awful thing,
and it's it's it's part of what's gone into since
he's come into Colorado. When he first came in, what
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he had a meeting with the whole team, this exciting. Hey,
you guys are get to get ready hit the transfer portal.
Uh Okay, you know I remember at the time, going
I understand that first meeting. You're these kids who have
played football their whole life, that took scholarships to come
to college work their asses off.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Maybe they're not good enough. I understand that, but these are.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Still kids who work hard, These still kids who put
the rest of their lives on hold to play a
game that maybe they're not gonna play anymore in three years.
And the first thing you say is, guys, better hit
the portal. My son's coming in. I got guys coming in.
You want to hit the portal, Go hit the portal.
Like this, he doesn't care at all about players unless
you are helping his star power as a coach, or
you're a star player on the field helping him win.
And you got has shown me that you care about
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more than just that. Well, the funny thing about it
is what was the problem with their squad last year?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
They had no depth, particularly on the lines.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Right hastily built obviously get out there and you've got
a couple of all class players you mentioned his son
and Travis Hunter, and that's great.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Not a lot of depth. So what happened?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Eventually they got slapped around, right, they got beat up,
and Shadur spent a lot of time on his ass
based on the inefficiencies and in effectiveness of that offensive line.
The optics matter. They still matter, even if you're a
Hall of famer all over the place, and you played
two sports and all of the greatness that deon Sander,
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there's still there's now a coach, right, and there's still
some rules of engagement that still apply to it and
the optics of it in the program and outside of
as you say, get getting the next level of recruits.
You still need the field more than twenty two guys.
So if you're not his guy, you're completely expendable. And
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he's letting you know that coming in. And I guess
folks are gonna be okay with it because they want
to go to Colorado.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
They want that experience. And that's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
You know, you take phillip rosters and and take your scholarship.
But how much joy could there be in that experience
if you're not the A list starter just go The callous,
cold way that he dismisses the back of players is
(08:27):
really something special, right. For as much as we've talked
about coaches in history, and you know how they wouldn't
translate today, men, is he translating right now?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He did for a month, yeah, ga, when he was
new and he did great things. He turned Colorado into
a destination very quickly. Well, you had guys that were
falling all over themselves to go coach with him and
be there, I want to go and players saying I'm
putting Colorado in my top three.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
But you can't just sit there and say, all right,
there's got to be more to that, right, And as
you said, you said the word destination. That's the second
part that Dion's got it that from outside the program,
you want Colorado to be a destination. There's such a
thing as too much new style. Went Beastie Boys again,
there's too much new style.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
For Dion.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
This is a different way to do it, completely different,
and everything he's done has been completely different. But when
you're picking a college to go to, yes, nil, money matters,
everything matters, But you want the program you go to
to seem like it has long term stability to it.
And Dion is not fostering long term stability. He is.
(09:38):
He is fostering things can change any single day, and
that's not what you want when you're going to say
I want to go somewhere or I know stability, and
this is what the situation is going to be. And
this is kind of where as unpredictable as college football
is for the individual player.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They want to know.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Okay, this is what my experience is gonna be like,
this is kind of what I like, I don't want
to know going in that my position. Coach you recruited
me is gonna get blown out of this. If we
lose three games in a row, the OC's gonna get fired.
There's gonna be all kinds of crazy stuff going on.
Am I gonna stay on coaches good side? Am I
gonna not be on coach Prime's good side? You need
to show that there's a little bit of stability there
to it, that it's not just something that, hey, it's
(10:13):
all new and we're rewriting the rule book of college
football as we go. Okay, I get that you have
something new and it's great, but you got a show
stability and the Colorado shows zero stability. Well, I remember
we were celebrating here, you and I and I trumpeted
and you know his name is Sean Lewis. When things
are going well, and what happened. It went bad and
he cut him loose, just like like backups. So now
(10:35):
he's going to be the San Diego State coach and
we'll see what kind of wizardry he could do there.
But the other thing, you know, when you talk about stability,
how much of this success and how much of his
coaching acumen is predicated on the fact that he's got
his kids and he's got Travis Hunter. Oh what happens
when they leave? Right, that's the next part of it, right.
(10:55):
And I loved last week that he he had the
team meeting and he had the notes from the professors
or whatever. That was a nice little story right of Hey,
no slacking in class, go be accountable, all that great message.
But then on the back end of it, he's, yeah,
you guys can all be gone tomorrow and we'll move on.
(11:16):
And to try to be adversarial with the media, Like
the numbers are the numbers.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You lost twelve guys.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You don't have to like them all equally. We get that, Yeah,
it's still twelve guys. You've now got to figure out
you don't have to be mad at the person asking
the question, Hey, you're losing twelve guys. What are you
looking to bring in?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, what like like suddenly he's mad at Like it's
not like someone sad, Hey you lost these twelve players,
and you are hurting it. This is what are you
looking to bring in? And now I'm mad. No one's
looking at our practice. It's about so you're not going
to softball? A question is she could have asked, so
you're not going to bring in new players? Well, you're
saying you don't need anybody else? Is that you tell
me that? Then if that's your point, we don't. We're
not bring anybod else.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
We're good. We're not getting out those We got it
out the practice. Yeah, in practice field we're great.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Wall the same guy that's that, that's the four string
right outside linebacker, he's gonna be forest ring a left
outside linebacker.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
We're fine. We're fine with her not bringing it like
he he he.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Whatever mood he was in going into today, he let
that get to him and and and kids. You know,
as much as they they they love the attitude of him,
and you love the charisma of Deon Sanders there, but
they want to know, Hey, coach is not just going
to be someone who flies off the handle all the
time or or or I don't want to walk around
eggshells on him.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I want to know I have value. I want to know.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I want to know, Like I said, I want to
know I have value if I'm a backup player. I
want to know their stability with this, with this team,
and he does not show that. I feel like every
day in Colorado kids go to practice.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And walk out a up. I don't know what today
is gonna bring, but it's not gonna be boring. But
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And that's great for a while, but eventually is like
I got to get off this ride. I need a
little bit of stiff. I can't have every day be
this way. Well, the big selling point was us against
the world, right, and that became a cultural thing. It
became a college the other like we've been talking about
with with Caitlin Clark, college basketball into the WNBA. It's
the you weren't here and now you're on board?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Right, People who.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Didn't give any care about college football were suddenly Colorado
fans and jumped on, Okay, how long are you one
of the us?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
If you're one of the players, that's really the question.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Like everybody else may still be on board with what
he's he's trying to sell, but what do you need
to do? Are the rules of engagement for you clear
enough to where you stay on the on the good
side of things, or you become the next guy in
a press conference that becomes who are we losing?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
So no one's inside the program like you.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I get it, but this is what it looks like
from outside the program, and this is not something that
you want.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So there you go. Free advice for deonce. How did
nobody ask him about the funny overalls he was wearing?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Maybe after that question, I don't think people wanted to
ask that. Well, I don't think they want to. They
didn't want to respond. I'm gonna ask the overall question.
Oh h do you have a question? Oh no, no, I'm
never I don't need to a coach. Let's light this
thing up. I'm good, I'm good. I haven't seen those since,
like oshkosh was a thing. Are you chamming a little
little Vince Wilfork here?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I remember wearing wearing, uh, wearing.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Overalls like that, and and how excited I was, like
because I liked wearing the shirt under it.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
When I was a kid, I loved wearing overalls. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yah yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Then they got fashion when I was in high school,
they got fashionab because then it was fashionable to just
have the.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
The one the one side and done done in the
other side not done.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And then that became a whole fashion statement, and that
became really big and and and music artists started wearing
it that way. It's like overalls became a big thing.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Both. Yeah. Hey, uh is Hill Billy Jim coming in
to Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
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Speaker 3 (14:48):
We got Hillbilly Jim referencing you love that? You love that?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
That?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Oh man, you were paranoid. I wouldn't get that in
you see. Then?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Uh coming up next, boy, do we have another incredible
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Speaker 1 (15:45):
Be honest with yourself. You're driving down the road with
young Catherine right now. Say when you're stop at that apartment,
go right inside. Don't help the man with a broken
arm trying to get a couch in the back of
his And certainly when you're helping him, don't get into
the van. Stand the outside of the van. Let him
(16:08):
get into the van. Also, ask yourself why a man
with a broken arm is trying to move a couch
into a van.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Late at night. Ask yourself that young Catherine, would you
talk to me? Stop? What stop? Say?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Movie?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Stop? Stop? Stop? He wanted he wanted to be tuck
denn He's ready to go to sleep. How about that
Tiktucklery's young Catherine his way thing?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Hey speaking of music before he gets Kitlin Clark speaking
of movies, rather movies movies, this really pissed me off today.
So the trailer for the new m Night Shyamalan movie
comes in. Yeah, but Josh hartne in it, and it's
you know, it's a horror thriller movie. And they give
away the whole bleeping movie in the trailer, which is usane.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Okay. So the movie's called Trap and and right now,
and the setting of it is you know, and here's it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Because I'm a good guy, I'm not going to give
you the spoiler they give you in the trailer, so
I'm not trust me.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's called Trap, and it starts Josh Hartnett back in Hollywood,
Josh hart So, Josh Harton is a dad and he's
bringing his daughter.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
To a concert.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Okay, great, and then at the concert you find out
there's some weird things happening. They're like, okay, that's kind
of a cool little push right there. He sees his
police everywhere and they're bringing people outside from outside.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Pretty good. That's pretty good. Try I like that so far.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Then you find out that in the trailer that the
reason for all the police presence is that there's a
serial killer on the loose. And the whole concert and
the whole concert is being put on so they could
catch the guy because they're pretty sure he's at the concert.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
No, I don't know how you would figure out of
guys there and not know who it is.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's kind of care but anyway, so, and that's why
the police is here and the whole concert's being put
on so they can catch this guy. And I was like, oh, okay,
I don't know that I would have put that in,
but that's pretty good. Now, that's a pretty good hook.
And then in the last minute of the trailer, they
give away the biggest thing in the movie, and I'm like,
why would you give that away? Now, maybe this reveal
(18:24):
that I'm talking about happens in the first fifteen minutes
in the movie, right, and maybe it's not something that
oh at the end of the movie. Guess what, Maybe
it's the first fifteen minutes. But there's no reason to
spoil that. There's no reason to spoil it. It's it's
silly to put that in the trailer. Suddenly, okay, well
that's pretty good. Oh oh, and here's a spoiler. Oh okay, crap,
that's such a great that was such a great thing,
(18:45):
and there was no reason no.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Reason you got God, I was just stupid. I would
say that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
The thing that you just have to take away from
it is that it is m night, which means there's
going to be a twist. I'm gone, no, no, no, no,
there might be other twists, but that's a great twist.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Oh no, absolutely the way you said it, sure like
I said I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Wasn't a big the biggest fan of Hey, they're trying
to catch a serial killer at a concert, which like, okay,
because that gives me there's a lot of problems with that,
but it sounds intriguing.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Okay, I'm good with that.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You want to put that in there, but then you
give away something huge, the huge for the movie, and
I'm like.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Why would you do that in the trailer? Why would
you do that? I felt like admir lockbar that's.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Because he wanted wants the rest of people that haven't
stopped going to his movies to leave this one alone too.
I don't know why you come out Let's go back
to that elevator one Devil or whatever that.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
So much like, what why'd you give that away? There's
no way I'm gonna forget it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
When the movie comes out later on this summer, you know,
because there's sometimes I'll read about a book I want
and I'll say, oh, that seems pretty good. I want
to read more about it, and then I'll put it
on my list. I go, Okay, great, I'll get this book,
you know, but I can forget about that. But when
I see a trailer like that, I'm like, I'm not
gonna forget it. Here's a big reveal in the movie,
like what the hell is So someone had already solved
(20:07):
the the maze in your in your book when it came.
This is like watching a trailer for the Empire Strikes
Back and here's Vader and here's everything and the well,
it wasn't the title, and the Vader says, Luke, I
am your father.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Wait what it name? Time Vader his father in German.
You didn't get that, Jesse, some of you've never seen
an m Night movie without telling me you've never seen
an M Night movie. No, I've seen them. I clearly
didn't spoil nothing. Yeah well no, yeah, you didn't like
the way you said that. That's a big siler. That
spoil left you think he's not dumb. He's gonna cost
(20:43):
the company billions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Dude, he put himself in a movie as the as
the as the best writer in the history of the world.
He was gonna save the world.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Why would you not do that? I would yourself. I
had the cloud to do that. Are you kidding me?
Had a character and get.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Me, had a character that only lifted weights with one arm.
Why didn't lift with the other arm at all?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Some folks? Sure, no, stop you always say don't scoop
lag day, don't skip leag. Not onlys you scoop lag
you shouldn't, but other people do. That's you.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Look, he also has the Nepo baby problem with this movie. Well, yeah, hey,
guess what. The woman who plays the singer is my
is my daughter?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Now about that?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Uh so again, I mean it may not be the
biggest the biggest twist in the movie, I get it,
But that was a big twist you didn't need to reveal.
It was such a good premise and such a good
they got me interested. Now I'm like, oh, now I know.
Now I'm just hoping it's in the first ten minutes
of the movie. You find out what they told you
at the end of day. Do you know the ending
the Jets games after the first play, yet.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You still watch it. Yeah, but how they get there
is so interesting. It's not it's not just the destination.
It's the journey. Don't you know?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It gonna be interceptions? Is it gonna be fumbles? Is
it gonna be a Mary Picks six at the end
of the first half? What's gonna be?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
What's it gonna be? Are we gonna get past the
fifth play? Now I'm gonna hurt you now. Now, I'm
gonna hurt you now, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Break off. I leave tonight because I park right next
to him. I'm gonna I'm gonna open my driver's side
door really wide. You'd be prepared because I'm gonna swap
some paint with you. I'm gonna swap some pet like.
This is gonna be uh like, like this is the
end of Daytona the right of me because the guy
that parked there before was terrible. Oh really, no, I
had a better park. But I can easily I could
(22:21):
put a nice door into your door and just want
to do that.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You'll get a nice big swab a black paint.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Right. I'd rather you at least key the car like
you always threaten and put a nice design on this.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Okay, you just heard Harmon gave me the okay to
key his car. You just heard it.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I got the okay, cops, I said, I would rather
cops can't come after me the former of keying the
car rather than the slamming in. There's no art, there's
no artwork, just just slamming.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
The door into my car.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Jerk.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, just as anyone who's ever played the game, would
you rather whatever you answer or something you wouldn't mind doing.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Everybody knows that. Okay, it's not okay, I wouldn't mind
doing that over this. Everybody knows that. Well. I would
always choose secret options to what a great movie the game? Now,
the game was a great one, Michael Douglass. We just
watched that the other night with Zoe for the first time.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Really.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I started a Franklin his new show on Apple
Ben Franklin. Yeah, oh no, he plays Ben Franklin. Okay,
all right, you know he discovers electricity. Spoiler, sorry, shock
her when you see the string and the key, that's
gonna be the best part. Jason, I'm actually shocked that
you think he would give away a big plot line
(23:29):
in his brief I'm not saying it's the biggest twist,
but it's a big reveal that would have just added
to the movie.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
If people didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Going in, I get you just don't watch the trailer. Yeah,
but how do you get people interested in watching the movie?
Of course, that's about the director in the movie premise.
If you just said to me, a new M Night
Shamalan movies coming out should be enough. If this was
two thousand, I would say yes, But it's twenty twenty four.
It's the old I've seen twenty twenty four. Yeah, then
that movie made me older.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I can't with you. It's two hours. I'm never getting
there's two hours of good movie. There's two hours a
lot of M.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Night Shyamalan movies. I'm not getting back. He's very hit
and miss. He's very hit and miss. He's a I
like the Village.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Village was good. He's so hit.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Lady in the Water was terrible to really Yeah, but
uh no, but I'm saying he's hit and miss.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
So I need the trailer. Hey, is this an M
Night Shyamalan movie? I need to go see. Okay, I
Elevator with the Devil. It looks awesome, It looks awesome,
and then here's a reveal that you don't need to
put in the movie. Was it the kid who Saw Dead? People?
Don't tell anybody, don't tell anybody. Don't tell mebody, don't
tell me, tell me?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Uh The Jason Smiths with Mike Carmen Lifrom the tirect
dot com Studios.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
One thing I know for certain going forward is.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
That the more time I realize people are just gonna
face plant trying to talk about Caitlyn Clark and women's sports,
it is going to be something to watch long tenured
members of the media just absolutely throw up on themselves
because they don't know how to talk about women's sports
or Kitlyn cl without face planting, without making themselves look awful.
(25:03):
The last two days, there's been a lot of backlash
Caitlyn Clark and what went on with Indianapolis Star columnist
Greg Doyle, who is a long time on the one
of the more respected guys in all of sports.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Been had a big, long career and gaining a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Of attention for a couple of things he said at
Caitlin Clark's introductory press conference. The first was this back
and forth that's gained a big level of viral openness
in the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Hi, Caitlyn, Greg Doyle, Indie star, real quick, let me
do this like you like that. I like that you're here.
I like that you're here.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I do that in my family after every game.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So okay, we'll start doing it to me and we'll
get along just fine.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So oh, what he did was he made the heart
the heart gesture, which is what Caitlyn Clark does, and
it was kind of creepy, like, why would you do
That's kind of creepy.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Kind of yeah, kind of creepy. No, very creepy, well,
very creepy. Hey, do that to me will be okay,
all right? Terrible, terrible, terrible and really really bad.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Now, in the last few hours, there's been new video
of a second exchange which he had with the head
coach of the team, Christie Sides, when he said to her,
you were just given the keys to that talking about
Caitlyn Clark, what.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Which honestly, that's even more creepy than the than the
heart thing. When when you I mean, that's like, that's
like something that is that is like when you're in
your early twenties club crass that you hear guys say
about women a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
What are you gonna do with that? Look at that?
Look at that, look at that, and this this is somebody.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Okay, you're a well respected journalist and you're gonna talk
about Caitlyn Clark that way. You're gonna you're gonna talk
about her and objectify her in that way. Again, this
is in public, in front of a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
This is not when when you're when you're by yourself,
hanging out with your buddies and you're talking.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
This is this is you in public and you've just
now embarrassed yourself and you've shown that, Hey, people are
really again, people are really gonna face plant when they
try to talk about Caitlyn Clark and women's sports.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
It's insane. But we've seen a lot of.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
That the last days weeks, where you get takes from
people talking about stuff that just makes it ridiculous. It
could be something as benign as oh, she needs to
win a championship to be the goat, which is stupid,
or uh you know, uh, hey, y WNBA salaries, why
aren't they as high as the men like, which is
stupid as well.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I mean, people are just gonna face.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Plant trying to talk about women's sports and it's crazy,
but it's going to continue. And I just shake my
head because I say to myself, it's not that hard. Okay, Yes,
Caitlyn Clark is different and her story is woven in
and she's gonna have that impact like Magic Johnson and
Larry Bird getting to the NBA Tiger Woods getting to
the PGA Tour, which is hopefully going to raise salaries
(27:54):
and raise merch and raise interest level in the league
and sell more tickets. Like that's the impact she's gonna have.
And I get that, But the rest of it, it's sports.
Like it's sports. There's a reason why. Hey, you go
to ESPN dot com or a different website during the
day and Haley van Litz transfer is on the is
on the front of the page. Gino Orima is saying, Hey,
if we allow one and duns in women's college basketball,
(28:16):
that's going to ruin the sport. Hey who's transferring to
Iowa to take over for Caitlin Clark as the next
great superstar?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Five? These are all big stories. Now, these are all
big stories. How about this? And this is this is
I mean, it's a.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Crazy idea that I have. How about you just talk
about it like it's sports. How about how about that?
I mean, I think that's probably the best advice I
can give you instead of trying to say something crazy
or get caught up in your head with saying something
funny and you wind up looking stupid.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Because I don't want this. I don't want people to
keep looking stupid. And it doesn't. It doesn't.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It doesn't bode well for our profession, It doesn't bode
well for anybody. But how about you just do that
and you treat it like it's a sport. Because that's
the one thing I can tell you. And I don't
like a lot to say about what we do on
the show about where it is compared to other shows,
but they're there's certain things that I know for a
fact in my blood. We do better than any show
in the country, any national sports talk show. Talking football, yeah,
(29:07):
we talked football great, but a lot of people talk
football great. Basketball, Yes, we talked basketball great, but a
lot of people talk basketball great. When we talk baseball.
When we talk women's college basketball, we talk women's national
team soccer, men's national team soccer. When you get outside
of football and basketball. Yeah, we know what we're doing
because we know how to make it.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Hey, what is it?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
It's about the sport, right. We broke down the women's
national team last year at the World Cup. I had
I had an exchange with a with a person in
the media on Twitter direct message saying, Wow, I loved
I love the way you guys broke that down. You know,
I love the way you guys talked about them as
as athletes and as as as what you saw on
the field and what the problems are and what they
(29:51):
need to solve.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And it was great.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It was awesome, And I said, thank you so much.
That's that's awesome. I never thought of it any other way,
like this is this is what it is. Women's national
song team is a big deal. Doesn't matter. It's a
big deal to anybody. Everybody's watching to watch them when
watch them do things. So you talk about them like
you talk about anything else. It's not that difficult. Yet
people make it so hard. And this is Greg Doyle thing.
(30:13):
I'm like, dude, what do you think is God? What
goes through your head where you think, Hey, I'm gonna
be kind of glib and kind of have it out.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Here and say some crazy ass stuff. Well, how do
you think that plays well? Well, look, for the interest
of time, I'll just say it dusly with Doyle.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
He tried to say, well, that's kind of what I've been,
that's the way I've always been. Like, it's twenty twenty four.
It's not don't care to be that way anymore.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Right, you and your buddies are you know, not doing
your job. Go do what you do.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
But when you're in front of the microphone in these
kind of situations, or even in your columns or when
you're on Twitter, you still represent your employer. You've got
to do so responsibly. So that's part of it for us.
Look what we been doing here at Fox Sports Rado
whatever comes on these monitors in front of us, we're
breaking it down live. We're not waiting for reaction. We're
(31:07):
not waiting for a team of writers or somebody to
go through and put stuff together. Like we look at it,
we watch it, and we get after it right away.
And I've always prided you know that part of what
we do do it with I think great care and
without fear. Right, and if we're wrong, guess what the
(31:28):
show will come back on tomorrow and we'll talk about
it some more as more information becomes available. But right
now it's in a great spot. Everybody celebrate that we're
at the party. Now, let's just figure out how to
rule what the rules of engagement of it are. Exit out,
bout of Fresca, exit swelling down. The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carmon, Live from the tirec dot Com Studios. Amazing,
(31:50):
but we're gonna see it. Yeah, and it amazes me.
Oh yeah, last time to answer your trivia question, it's
Lucy Olsen who comes from Villanova, averaging over twenty three points. Again,
Kaitlin Clark's said, welcome to the party. These are all
new Welcome to the party, pals, these are all news stories.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon, Live from the
tire rag dot Com Studios. Coming up next, we'll get
back into the NBA Mike, and I tell you who's
(32:12):
gonna be moving on and into the playoffs in the
playing round tomorrow Night two, Big Game. They're not in
the playing round, ty shirt, They're they're they play themselves
in the round. H sure they can play against themselves? Yeah,
who's moving on? Who's going home?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
We'll tell you next right here, Jason to Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Is this is this bassline heavy opening of song night
ty Shirt? Is that your theme?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I feel like all the songs you're playing have identifiable
bass lines to open a song. Yeah, it's all about
the base base, which makes me think another one bites
the dust is coming up soon?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Ah anymore? So his first night here, you guys are
already on the first name basis. Huh. Yeah, it's nice, Yeah,
it's nice.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Well, Adam Tolbert is his name. That's what it is,
Robert Adam Hulbert. We welcome back, We welcome, thank you
very much.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
It's actually Tim Tolbert, Tom Tolbert.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
That's another one of my favorite Bill Waltons. Oh, Tom Tolbert,
tell me what's happening right now. So we're in a
twenty four hour period of no NBA yep, really no
Major League Baseball as we get ready for an NBA
game or slate of games every day between now.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And July fourth.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Let's get it on Tomorrow night we have the last
two playing games in the East in the West. Who
is coming out with a victory? Mike and I are
going to give you our picks right now, and I'll
start in the West. I would love to pick New
Orleans no Zion Williamson, but I watched New Orleans play
(33:50):
dead from the neck up until Zion decided I'm gonna
grab this team by the scruff of the neck and
I'm going to try to will us to victory. But
he gets hurt, New Orleans loses. That's not gonna happen again.
Sacramento is a fantastic team. Not all records are created equally.
This is a team that had great heights last year,
lost early in the playoffs, spent some time figuring it out.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Now they're where they need to be. Kings win, they
win by at least ten, and I'll give you this caveat.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Kings win tomorrow night, I will officially pick seeds five
through eight to win in the first round of the
NBA Playoffs in the Western Conference. All right, I'll get
the nine, eight and and we'll have Todd on tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
We'll ask him. Yeah, in the odds for that one.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
The Kings are just a narrow one point favorite in
this game, the over undersitting at two ten. But I
think even with them being down in their rotation, right,
he still had some injuries that you're dealing with there.
What do you trust from the Pelicans?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Righton?
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Ingram was terrible. He's still playing. He just came back
off injuries, right. He missed those twelve games down the
stretch where they sank out of a fifths or sixth
seed into the play in altogether. And then he was
on the bench and McCollum couldn't get the broad side
of a barn. What's gonna suddenly change? They were both
Jones or or one of these guys is suddenly gonna
(35:15):
go nut. No, Sacramento's too deep, too fast, too strong.
They win in a route. All right, Where are you
in the East, my friend? You know where I am?
Oh God, go good bye? Kobe Whiteore Bulls. How many
points are Kobe White tomorrow? Sixty thirty fifty five thirty one?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Another big night against the Heat again down rotational pieces
and now you're down Jimmy Butler as well. The Bulls
are a two point underdog on the road, and the
reason they're an underdog is because they stink. Now that's
a big thing. Remember the Bulls stink. Okay, this is
not just because they're playing. Doesn't mean they're any good.
(35:53):
But just understand that some teams that are playing in
the playing round are good. Some teams in the playing round.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
And they stink. The Bulls stink. Okay, the Heat is
a much better team than the Bulls.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yes, they're missing their best player, and they are missing
a couple other rotational players.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Look, Duncan Robinson was cleared to play. He didn't play.
Miami at home.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Will have enough for one victory without Jimmy Butler. Right,
they're thirteen to nine without him this year. They can
play well. They've played well without him afore. It's not
like he's been light in the world on fire all season. Yes,
you're missing your emotional leader, but I will say Miami's
got enough. Maybe Tyler Hero scores forty, big night for
bam Adebayo, but Miami has enough to beat the Bulls,
(36:35):
mainly because the Bulls stink. Remember that's a big thing
in picking this game. The Bulls. People forget the Bulls stink.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, they were sub five hundred.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
It's okay, but no, look, I'm not certainly predicting a
blowout win or anything of that. It'll both look at
empty DeRozan White Cruso is gonna play. It looks like
he averted something serious there with the foot and ankle,
so that that hell, I do agree, right, Tyler hero
was what nine of twenty seven that won't be repeated?
(37:05):
I did like that little bogus thing that was going
around bucket hat during the game tomorrow night. He'll shoot
a lot better, trust me. Extra drip, Yeah, like that's good.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Look at you? Does he get it? I'm twenty four.
Hey the new drip is Does he get a big
gold chain hanging down as well? By way, the Bulls win, Okay,
what's your score? One on one to fifty? What's your score?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Balls one hundred and thirty seven? No, ninety four eighty eight,
heats seventy one. There you go there, ninety four eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I like that. So not a lot of offense in
that game. No, I would.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I would pick the Bulls except for one thing. Say it,
the Bulls think that's what.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I hate you? What everything you stand for? We got
more coming up next.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
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