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April 24, 2024 41 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react live to the slate of NBA playoff games. The guys also discuss Jerry Jones' pre-draft press conference, break down Caitlin Clark's brand new deal with Nike, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yourk cotch the Mets again, Yeah, well we got the
hell that I do to deserve that.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
We got two basketball games on in the Mets. That's
really well, so we need There's not a based on
the game to watch, No what you want to watch
a White Sox, Like I said, a better baseball game
to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I wasn't implying that it was any of the trap
coming out of Chicago. Okay, I mean the Cubs aren't bad,
but we're not watching the clubs. No, no, no, why
would he?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
White Sox actually have scored five runs today? I how
many they give up? Sixteen four seventeen. They're up five
to four on this could be this could be there, man,
this could be their BI monthly win.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Oh wait, is that Eli is Actually he's playing Andy
hit a home run?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Is BI monthly twice a month or every two months?
I think it's twice a month. Okay, so it's the
bi monthly win for the White Sox. Yeah, that's where
you're at. Congratulations by pacing for twenty four right now? Yeah, dude,
you are. You are paced to win your tenth game now,
I believe now June seventeen pretty good to win your
tenth game.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I might actually end up in Europe before they get
their tenth win. Ooh, what happens first? Harmon lands in Europe?
Or the White Sox win their tenth game? Harmon's betting
horses and by the White Sox when your ten game,
that's something right there. So big night in the NBA listen,
we'll get to the big story in the second butt.
Here's where we sit right now. Fourth quarter looks like

(02:12):
Minnesota gonna go up two zip on Phoenix. They lead
it ninety seven eighty three. Teals went on a big
run middle of the third quarter. They have kept this
lead since. Meanwhile, eight minutes ago. On the third lot
of time left here, the Pacers lead the Bucks seventy
to sixty three. Again, a lot of time left in
this one. These are your two games tonight. Now that

(02:33):
I've given you the particulars, let's get to the Knicks
and the Sixers. Let's get to the Knicks. I mean
the fraud that was perpetrated on comedy.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I got a couple of we do actually have a
Facebook page? Yeah yeah, yeah, we're the Boks. Were none
too happy with your cheerleading Go New York, New York Go,
including a number of expletives next level stuff. Well look
that blanking guy with his blankety blanket looked WHOA?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
How about that? How many of them were your family members?

Speaker 5 (03:05):
None?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Really? Where are your brothers? They don't hang out on
the interwebs really, No, they're more dark web people. They're
in the dark web now, you'll find me in the
dark tree anywhere you need to go. But we at
the track more.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Likely then let's do it.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Was I was so depressed I went to the track. Uh,
let's deal with the news and the latest coming off
of Game two the Sixers and the Knicks. The no
foul called on Tyrese Maxie in the final sequence with
twenty seven seconds left to go. We spent a lot
of time on this last night. The Knicks were down five,

(03:42):
and they not only find out a way to take
the lead, but they wound up winning the game by three.
Jalen Brunson hits a three. The Sixers have problems inbounding
the basketball Tyrese Maxi Is he fouled? Is he not?
That was? This is the story last night. The Knicks
get a turnover. Dante DiVincenzo hits a three, giving the
Knicks the lead. All we heard after the game from

(04:03):
the six Is was how bad the officiating was, how
awful it was? Can't wait for the two minute report?
All of this. Well, the two minute report is out
and it found a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, it reads as an apology to Philadelphia with a
bunch of Knicks fans going play you.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, But but here's the thing and what did to
come out? Tyres Maxie was fouled twice on that play
where they couldn't inbound the ball and coach Nurse, yes,
was neither recognized nor granted by the official. Yes, that's
kind of again. Okay. The first time he called time
out again, he called it for a second, but then
pulled it away, pulled his hands, weight didn't want it.
The second time he tried to call it time out,

(04:38):
they didn't have the Basketeah. But you know what's great
is so he can't It's very easy to admit the error,
you know why, because the game's over right. But here,
but here's the thing is that this is this is
what went on. Was Tyres Maxie fouled yet Jalen Brunson
grab his shirt? Yeah? Did Maxie also push off of
Josh Hart? Yeah, but that was now, But let's deal
with the fact there. I just want to deal with
what was in the two to deal with and why

(04:59):
everybody is so mad everybody's doing a favor for the
next let me let's just let's just deal with that
for a second. Okay. Was Maxie fouled once or twice
and I'm not saying what was MAXI fouled a couple
of times. This is what the two minute reports said
they did. I don't want to deal with the timeout
thing because that's just stupid because Nick again Nick Nurse
called it, pulled it away, then tried to call it
when the Sixers didn't have the ball. But the first

(05:19):
that he'd put it up, whether whether it's for a
second or five, but if he put up the time out.
But but the thing is, by the time referee does
it wipe it off, Like by the time the referee
Seeson is gonna bring his whistle and blow it. Nick
Nurse puts his hands aside and says, no, no, I don't
want it. I don't want the time out. Does it matter?
It doesn't want the time out. I don't want to
know if he was trying to call a time out,

(05:41):
he would have run out of timetime times out. He
just saw it right there, really quick and tried to
call it time out, and then after a second one second.
There's no referee with that kind of of reaction. There's
nobody in the world time one. I'm sure the referee
saw it, but there's wants the time out I'm gonna
blow the whistle. No, and then by that time he
had waved it off. He waved it off off after
a second that he didn't want the time out. Okay,

(06:02):
so what that's I don't think waving off that he
didn't want the time out? That was the no, I
can't call the time no, no, no, no, no no no. He
would have just dropped his hands. He pulled his hands apart,
like want the time out? Because why isn't that the
two minute report? Well, he we didn't call it, and
it's fine because he didn't want the referee is implying

(06:25):
what he wants. He didn't want the time out there,
but because it didn't work out for him. Now after
the game, he's saying, I called the timeout. I call
the time. No stop, that's ridiculous that the timeout thing
is so is so right there? All right, But here's
here's here's where I'm here's what I'm gonna get averyready
back to back to normal on this and understand that
that this call the Sixers wanting to harp on this

(06:48):
is ridiculous. Okay, So let's just say they blow the whistle. Okay,
let's say they blow the whistle. And they call a
foul and Maxie gets go to the free throw line,
or or they give the time out to the seventy
six ers. Let's say one of those two things happens. Right,
what's the deal at that point? The Sixers are up
to and they either have the ball or they're going

(07:10):
to the free throw line with twenty seven seconds left
in the game. Is the game over? No? Is There
still a lot of lots of play to play, right,
You still got to play. But the Sixers, But the
Sixers are acting like if we got that call, the
game was over. You know what? No, it wasn't there was.
Did they have a better chance to win? Of course
they did, But I watched Joel Embiid miss a lot
of free throws, making free throws and finishing out the

(07:31):
end of the game. It's like the Sixers that yet
to fade a company who would have had that they
are they are They are implying that if that foul
was gone, that one foul was called, the game was
over and they would have won. And that's a load
of crap. But if it changes the game, but it
did change a game, It changed the game, It changed
the game material, but it doesn't mean they would have won.
Would of course, not saying we should have won, we

(07:52):
should have won, we should have won.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, you know what you needed to figure out? Yeah,
the rest seven seconds of the game, just like with
Lebron and everybody else. You had a twenty four lead.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
But you're saying that one play or didn't that one play,
that one play, we would have won the game. No,
you might have won the game and you had the advantage. Absolutely,
I'm telling but there's still a lot of basketball left
to finish that out. Maybe you missed the free throws,
maybe you make one free throw out of two and
and and devincenzo, you go to overtime.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Human emotions, I got it, and it changes the complexity.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know what if you you can't finish out, you're
a professional athlete, you're Joel Embiad and you're complaining, Hey,
I made fifty million dollars a year, but boy I
couldn't focus those last twenty seven seconds. No, that's on
the point, is that's on materially changed the game, and
that's what the two minute it did. Games did tell you.
It changed the game.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Like everybody can complain and say, hey, we lost because
of it. Well, it helped, it certainly didn't hurt. But
in the end, finish the job and cheers. The buzzer
goes off. I agree with you there, So here's a
miss it all. No, No, I'm saying it would know
it would have. Let's just say that would have happened.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
You still had to finish out and win the last
twenty seven seconds of that game. But the Sixers are
acting like that one call and that was the game.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
That's on Youwi, that's on you. No, if either one
of the calls happened, feed one call. Now let's go
a step further. If you're the Sixers regards, so you
didn't get the call, boy, look how bad it was?
Did you or did you not have a chance to
win the game with twelve seconds left? And you guys
had the ball where you down one with two red
hot scorers and had a chance to win the game
and not a small chance. You had a good chance

(09:27):
because you had the basketball down a point. Did you
have a chance to win the game?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
And what happened MAXI got blocked? Was there a foul
on that play?

Speaker 6 (09:34):
No?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
He went to the rimy got blobby and then Secondly,
did you have a chance to tie the game and
send it to overtime with six seconds left and your
hottest shooter decided, I'm afraid and I don't want a
part of this, so I'm going to pass the ball
to Joel Embi, who was like, really, you give it
to me for a three. So you had chances at
that you had a chance to win the game. Then
you had a chance to tie the game. The chance
to tie the game six seconds making a three, that's

(09:56):
lower percentage, But you had the ball with fifteen down
a twelve second and you had a chance to win
that game. So it's not if for the Sixers to
say everything was taken away from us. No, that's incorrect. Yes,
you didn't get a foul called. I hear you on that,
but number one, there was a lot more game left
to be played, and number two, you had a chance
to win the game. So so stop stop with a
whole if you want to say this shows me a

(10:17):
team that's not focused on what's important, Because if you're
walking away from that game and you're the Sixers, you
let Nick Nurse do his thing, You let Nick Nurse
do his thing post game, and go I don't know
what's going on officials because you want the next call.
But now you're overboard with we're bringing a lawsuit against
the NBA and and beating all the other players are
saying this is terrible. Yeah, I don't know what's going
on here. No, now you're now you're folks. Now, now

(10:39):
you're harpeding on this.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Great.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I want you to be focused on this. And then
when Jalen Brunson drops forty five on you in games
drifted out whose fault knicks fish, you're not focused on
the right thing. If you're the Sixers, you let you
let Nick Nurse take care of it post game and
then you move on. But no, no, no, no, the
rest did not. You could have won that game if

(11:02):
you got a foul call going your way. Okay, you
could say that about a lot of calls in the game,
but that was a big one and yeah, could have
gotten called. Yeah. Do they normally call Jersey tugs? No,
they really don't.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
In the final in the final seconds when a team
is down five, don't get called because you're thinking they're
trying to call Are they not trying to But are
they not normally trying to call the foul, and this
is what we talked about last night. Normally, the anticipation
is you're you're blowing the whistle because they're trying to
extend the game, and then that whistle didn't come, and
then the two minute report it's the Yeah, we really

(11:34):
should have called that. It was kind of egregious. I mean, really,
if you were on the other side of this, you'd
be streaming bloody murder. I would say you would be
bloody six ers and one in the same fashion, in
the same fashion, you would be pissed as hell. So
don't try to claim you wouldn't be. That probably would
be if Jalen Brunson had had his jersey tugged. But
you know what, I would have been the first time

(11:56):
he did anything positive for the Nicks at that point.
Game for it was a terrible but but but if
that's the way the game had ended, you'd be pissed
and you'd be calling what.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Else I'd be mad about. Boy, we had a chance
to win the game with twelve seconds left and Jalen
Brunson got blocked. We had a great chance to win.
We were down on the basketball four months.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
You weren't waiting.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Would the moment you'd be so you ate your sandwich.
Now I get it, I get it, but let's be
but let's be honest. It doesn't mean and what if
we've always talked about this, when bad calls are made,
the bad call is made on the final play of
the game, well, hey, that's ultimately getting screened because there's
no time for you to come back from that. The
Sixers certainly had time to come back from it because
certainly they had a chance to win the game and

(12:39):
they didn't. So yeah, I get it. But to sit
here and and focus hole and focus the whole, your whole,
your whole, all of your attention on if that call
was made we would have won, that's just stupid. But
the thing for the Sixers is, and again, you're not
focused on the right there.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
They're going back to the the in totality the two
games that were played in this series and feeling like
they've been done wrong. Now, again, it's a loser's mentality
to hold. But that's that's their prerogative to go down
that road. We don't have a forty eight minute report.
We've got people commenting on Twitter. The only thing we
get is the final two minutes and when you can

(13:16):
line up the number of errors or omissions, look, it
gives a lot.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Of straights something that we do. But to sit here
and say, oh, that cost us the game. No, you
had a chance to win. And if you're you're saying
everything you did came down to one foul being called,
come on, I mean, what is that really really? You
know we're down to what But then you're gonna then
you're gonna widen out by saying, oh, look at the
fouls that that didn't get called an mbat the Knicks're
gonna say, okay, look at the fouls again and get

(13:42):
called for Jalen Brunch. Then we're gonna play this game
all the way through. You're talking about one play, one
foul and it costs us the game. And it didn't
simply because you had a chance to win the game
with a lot of time left and you didn't. And
you didn't. And even if Martenstein did a hell he
was great, Well, he was hounded by Quentin Grimes who
was just all over him on that place. I think

(14:02):
he was really sitting up on his shoe. Couldn't even
see it. They went to you couldn't even see him.
But that But that's my point is that the game
wasn't over at that point, and and you know what
the Sixers wanted the game to be. When Maxi hit
that three with a minute left to go, they're jumping
off the court like he just hit a three with
eight seconds left in the games all right, you got
to play the final minute out and they didn't, and
they and at twenty seven seconds there was still a

(14:24):
lot There's there was a lot on that game.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
And for the Knicks, there's a lot of time game
called there's a lot of time. Were they enambored by
Ben Stiller or the Wolfman Jason Bateman on the song
if you're dribbling? Hey, Jason, is that what the officials were?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
There's Ben still Ben Stiller talking to Chris rock Well,
look at that that, Ah, I got it stolen again
from him.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
There's Rick Brok, Hey, I do want to make sure
we keep up to date with the action going on
tonight because bull bulls in the game.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah yeah, you didn't think we gotta you know what
kind of bull bull? It's a bull ball night tonight.
Minnesota putting the finishing touches on their win over Phoenix
one oh five ninety one with twenty five seconds left
to go. Meanwhile, the Bucks have cut the lead to
seventy nine seventy eight with three minutes to go in
the third quarter. So yes, foul should have been called,

(15:14):
but for the six er, forget it, man, Just just
just let it go and get onto something else. Everything
you're saying is wrong, But.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Everything's gone the other way, and those calls had gone
against the Knicks, you might have had Snake Pliskin needing
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Speaker 3 (17:49):
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Speaker 3 (18:29):
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Speaker 1 (18:41):
Uh, we have more NBA on the way, Uh, Indianapolis
and Indiana and Milwaukee. Rather, the Pacers lead at ninety
two eighty four early in the fourth quarter. Remember the
Bucks had cut this to one. But now the Pacers uh,
jumping out a bit with an eight point lead against
a lot of time left to this one. Meanwhile, Dallas
and the Clippers just underway Mavericks with a five to

(19:02):
four lead eight and a half to go in the
first quarter. Now let's get to well. First of all,
let me just say this, James harden Is looks like
he slipped on this last drive to the hoop, got fouled,
and it looks like when he took an extra step
he slipped a little bit like he gets fouled. Harrington

(19:25):
going up and then he takes a step out of bounds.
It looks like he slips a little bit. He's down
on the floor. He gets up, but it looks like
he is okay. Uh, he's gonna shoot free throws here.
But it looks like Harden's gonna stay in the game.
He's okay, But he was down for a bit. Looked
like a crooked fall that he had. But again, Harden's okay.
It looks like he's gonna stay it. It doesn't it
look like he's wearing a fake beard.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
What if?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
What if? What if? Dude? What if it's been a
fake beard for like, you know, like that he gets
it gluted? No, no, no, what if it was got
glued on like seven years ago. He just can't get
it off, Like it's the hangover, you know what Hell's like?
Oh I locked, I got that tooth out. Oh man,
it's never gonna change. I just glued the beard on
one night. I don't know what happened. Yeah, I went

(20:07):
to that strip club and then I don't know. I
don't know what happened after stuff they got from nests.
I can't get it off. I'm look at this, try
to pull it on. They can't pull it off. Yeah,
it's impressive. But Jerry Jones spoke today, and oh boy,
there's a Jerry Jones that we knew for the last

(20:27):
thirty years with the Dallas Cowboys, how he's run things.
And I'm gonna throw something crazy out there now, because
what if what we're seeing in this offseason is a
new Jerry Jones, a Jerry Jones who now gets it
and understands that, oh, my strategy needs a change them.
But I can't just keep giving guys contracts because I

(20:47):
like them. I got to be able to practice a
little bit of scrutiny here and see these guys I
want to pay, these guys I can't pay. I need
to need to do things a little bit differently because
we're not winning. We have won a super Bowl in
thirty years. Because this hard line stance he has taken
in the off season, I wonder because now after you
hear him going to speak, in a second, this gets
out past. Hey, we're not giving Dak Prescott sixty million

(21:09):
dollars a year this year. Right, as we've told you
from the beginning, Get ready for Dak Prescott in a
new uniform. He's hitting free agency Jerry Jones could have
extended him. He's not going to do it, so get ready.
But now you have Ceedee Lamb and Michael Parsons also
who want new deals, and Jerry Jones was asked about
that today. Listen to him talk. He's going to explain

(21:30):
how the option works. But I think you're going to
understand the allegory and what Jerry Jones is trying to
say in how he's approaching doing deals with the next
set of cowboys that want to get paid.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
We'd like to see some more action.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
It's called option. A lot of guys need to hand
it off. First guy through the line, another one will
keep it, another step decide whether pitch it or not.
He'll decide whether to turn up feel with it, and
then he's still got a pitch left. I've spent my
life being an option quarterback. It'd be madness not to
know that the contracts are ahead. I want to see

(22:05):
a few more cards play.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Okay, I don't know that. He being a light, he
understands how the option works. The option is the quarterback
either pitches it or keeps it. The quarterback doesn't pitch
it to a running back who then runs and pitches
to another running back, who then pitches to another guy.
Now it's usually that's the go crap, we're about to lose.
Now the quarterback keeps it or the quarterback is it
to the running back. That's the play, like, that's the option.

(22:28):
That's how it works. He watched stan Now you could
give the ball to the full back through the line. Okay,
so there's that. But but and again the quarterback keeps
it or he gives a ball to a running back.
That's how the end.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
I mean, he watched Stanford cow and he's remembering now
l Way being on the.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
L Now, we could have made a tackle on that play.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
But well, here's a great quote to add to it though,
right quote, you may be working on contracts and not
moving anything but your eyebrow.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
What Jerry Jones is implying there is that he wants
to have options when it comes to what players wind
up getting big contracts. He wants to see more numbers.
He wants see what other wide receivers get before he
sees what he has to pay CD Lamb. Maybe with
Micah Parsons, it's oh, is the guy causing problems? Is
he a guy that they don't like in Dallas, because
we've heard those whispers and those stories over the last

(23:18):
couple of weeks. To day, Michah Parsons kind of rubs
people the wrong way. Maybe he's not a guy that's
gonna get a long term deal with Dallas, even though
he's one of the top three defensive players in the game.
Jerry Jones is saying, I want options before I go
out and spend money. This is not the Jerry Jones
that we have known for thirty years. The Jerry Jones
we know is well, the ze will get paid, We'll

(23:38):
figure out a way. And Zekiel Elliot says, Okay, I'm
just gonna stay away. Jerry's gonna pay me, then I'll
show up. Well, you always is gonna give him money.
He was always gonna get it. This is a different
Jerry Jones. Again, after thirty years, everybody has that moment
of clarity where they go, oh, maybe got to do
things a little bit differently. Maybe doing things the same
way for thirty years where I I'm just paying guys

(24:01):
that I want to pay because I drafted them doesn't
really work and I maybe I need a GM to
actually figure out the best way to build a team,
and after thirty years, Jerry Jones may be figuring that out.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's really late in the game. I understand this, but
he's here. And if you're Dak and your ceedy Lamb
and you're Michael Parsons, you're going great.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
Now.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
The guy figures it out. Why couldn't I get paid first?
And Eddy figures it out?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Did he have to wait until Steven was of a
certain age you get before he started listening to him?
Get this, here's another quote. This is coming from an
article off the Athletic quote. If you're a team that
has a lot of cap room and then you have
the quarterback for a little while, that's underneath his rookie contract.
San Francisco last year us with Dak, early after we
had Romo Pause, Boy, we had a lot of credit

(24:49):
card use there on Romo. Dak came along so we
didn't have to have it. So we were able to
absorb that money and still keep Tyron Smith around him.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I'll spread that money over couple of cars. They got
the Discover card and that's that's like nineteen percent. Had
to had to get that taken down to under ten percent.
Put it on the on the AMEX got the new
one had the black card and the silver card, so
I got both of them, and then the special visa
one got that, and then I got some crypto cards
and that's because I can put anything I want on there,
and so then I was able to spread that around.

(25:20):
Now that could be Dax money, but I don't know
what's on any of those cards anymore. I gotta get online,
I gotta check my statements and look. But the thing is,
I forgot my password because my password for the longest
time was one two, three four five, and then I
changed it, and I think I changed to somebody's number,
but I don't know if it was Romo or Dax
or CEDI Lambs, anybody else I saw. I'm trying to
get back on now, trying to do the recovery password

(25:43):
thing and very difficult.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
But if you put it in the wrong thing, you
may have one of those security key codes that if
you don't remember it, you're there's no trigger to get
a Hey, you know what was my dog's first name?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Also also known as Apple, Apple is the lead helpful
company in recovering passwords. Because I I tried to recover
a password because I wanted to get a new phone,
and I wanted to, and you couldn't do it unless
you do the shut my fine my off And I
forgot what my password was on my shut my phone
because that's what I got to shut off so I
can turn it in and get money back for it.

(26:17):
And no, no help me. I said, can you do it?
No we can't. We can't do it. But but but
you're stopping me from No, we can't do it. We
were not going to do it. So if you forget
what that password is. I went through so many different
phone calls and they just wouldn't say they wouldn't help you.
But they just said, here's things you can do. But
I've tried all these things. I can't. I can't figure
it out. It wasn't something easily metroland. Can you can?

(26:38):
Can I just get this? Can I can I just
cancel this phone now?

Speaker 4 (26:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (26:41):
No, no, no, here's how you can recover your password.
They just wouldn't do it. It was no twenty three
benny is one, two, three, four, five, six. I figured
out I'll get six something you know? Sure?

Speaker 8 (26:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Apple, so so unhelpful. I'm glad I got that off
my chest. You look like you needed to do that, Cathi.
I was so mad, dude. It was literally like a
three month uh span of trying to just shut my
phone off. Just shut my phone off. I can't turn
it off. I don't know the passage. No, sir, here's
all the things you can do, and that would They
were not They're so unfriendly. No, bandit remember it. I'm like,

(27:16):
you remember everything? How do I have it? Of course
he says, how do you not have it? And then
I'm okay, I'm kind of suck at that. Y Yeah,
cause it was my password. Yeah, you're screwed at that point. Seven.
Tried that one too. That didn't work either. So here's
the last part of that quote. I tried stallback too,
but I forgot how to spell stallback. Didn't work. Then
I kept doing door set, but I forgot to t's
at the end, not one, and so tried and so

(27:38):
that know what? You know what the password was?

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Right?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah? It was Pierson. It was Pierce. I never forget that.
Somehow he's in the Hall of Fame. But I didn't
know was it d Pearson or pe Pearson?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
And I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
And it turned out that the password was Kate Pearson.
That's a big B fifty two s fan back in
the eighties. If you want to love shack Baby, let's
say some shock. Let's say some rock lots love shack Baby.
Quote Dak has enjoyed in his career. We're proud of
some of the best supporting casts that you can put
around him. Next line, this is the money quote. To
move forward, we will have to diminish that. That's a fact,

(28:10):
that's the rules. I mean, it's taken him thirty years
and he's finally figured out this is how to run
a modern.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
FOP TK person thirty years. It's been you know, twenty years, Candy,
Now it's thirty It's thirty years. Jerry here, really tax's
going now now? He really he could.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
He couldn't figure it out a year from now, couldn't
figure it Now he figures it out. This mean, I mean,
this is this is a new Jerry Jones who has
figured out, Hey, I can't just give money willy nilly
to guys because I like the headline and I like
to pay good players. I can't do that anymore. I
don't know what the moment was. I don't know who
who convinced him I'm thinking it's got to be like

(28:50):
a movie where he runs into a kid who's got
a Cowboys jersey. Eyes says, you know what, I know
a lot of players on the team. And the kid goes,
but we never win because we spend too much money.
And the kid cries.

Speaker 8 (29:01):
He goes, well, that there's a that's my That's when
I come to Jesus moment. Right there, that's what I
gotta figure out a.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Way with an old, scratched, faded Romo jersey. Sorry about that.
I'm about to give you a nice CD Lamb Jersey.

Speaker 8 (29:15):
Oh that could be the password, see the lamb see
because I used to have CDs still listen to him.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I remember I bought the Bat out of Hell CD
when it first came out.

Speaker 8 (29:23):
Uh, the meat Loaf guy, and oh, oh maybe meat
loaf because that's what I had for dinner last night,
was meat loaf.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
So I think I might have changed a password to
that too. Could have been out there. You know, two
out of three ain't bad. See what I did there.
This is Jerry Jones. Now he's figuring out a way
to us. Now, this is dangerous news for the rest
of the NFL that Jerry Jones is figuring out how
to run a football nervous in the NFC right now
because now people don't want to go there, and he

(29:49):
will have some kind of you know, some kind of
strategy and not just hey, you're a big name, I'm
gonna give you money.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I mean back with him and and watch film to
where maybe he has that moment of clarity about Mike
McCarthy and being able to win.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
See you say that meeting and all I'm thinking of
is Guardians of the Galaxy. When Rocket's telling grud about
not pressing the button. Don't press the red button. I
am grewed. No, no, no, no, not the red button.
Don't press this button. I'm no, what did I just say?
That's not the button to press. I do like that?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
You go, You start off as is the Bradley Cooper impression,
and you end with the late great Gilbert.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, it's very Gilbert. You really get to why am
I not surprised? Jaffa Jaffa, I don't believe this. Uh
time now to go to the Jaffar of Fox Sports Radio,
because he walks around with a parad on his shoulder
a lot now in a walking staff.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
It's Brian Finley with What's Trending? Jason, it looks like
you've been working out. Look, it's nice to see the guns.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I got the guys at tonight's Guns Out Night and
got my Syracuse football uh the muscles shirt. Yeah, football
team PSTPS. Look good. Dude, dude, dude, just stop, okakay,
just stop. You would take you would take our top
fifty over your top fifty players any day of the week.
All right, just stop. You're going to go one in
ten in the Big Ten. Except there's no Caleb Williams

(31:14):
waiting tanking in college football next year.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Wait, didn't you guys play Wagner. We beat Wagner. Okay,
they're like nai A school or something.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
You're at Wagnery. Well, I'm going to the Wagner College
Hall of Fame. Okay, so stick it.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
And Mike has a copy of Honus Wagner as a
baseball card.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
We're working on that.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, how about you have a copy of What's Trending?
How about you do that?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
How about I do that? You read my mind? How
how good you are reading people's minds. Let's go right
to the NBA and the Pacers are ahead one of
five to ninety two against the Bucks. They're seven to
fifty to go in this fourth quarter of Game two,
first round playoff series. Of course, Dame Lillard has thirty
four points. Giannis Atakupo is not playing in this game
because of an injury to his calf, and the Pacers

(31:57):
are trying to close this out. They if they were
able to hold on to this lead, they would tie
this series one game to none. Earlier, these Suns in
Timberwolves went at it this.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Seer little fires of three at the buzzer. It's offline.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
For just the second time in franchise history, the Wolves
have started a playoff series up two games to none.
Timberwolves Radio Network. They do one oh five to ninety
three against the Suns. That victory in Minneapolis, and so
game two going the t Wolves way and our third
and final game in the Association tonight is deep into

(32:33):
the first quarter. Kawhi Leonard is playing a pleasant surprise
for Clipper fans after he missed the last nine games
due to knee inflammation. He's out there and the Clippers
are trailing the Mavericks in Los Angeles eighteen two eleven.
Luga Ancic has more than fifty percent of his team's points,
already ten points to his name. Clips won that first
game of the series, so they're trying to go up

(32:55):
two games to none. Lastly, in the NHL, three play
playoff games are up and running, one already went final.
All first round Lightning and Panthers are in overtime. Three
minutes into overtime. It's two a piece between the Lightning
and the Panthers. End of the first period. In Winnipeg,
Jets leading one nothing against the Avalanche, also in the

(33:17):
first period, still up and running in the first the
conducts zero. The Predators won any final. The Arrangers closed
out the Capitals four to three. So New York now
it takes the two games to none lead in that
first round series.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Finals.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
In baseball, the Padres, well right now they're actually not final.
They're losing to the Rocky seven to four.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Finals, but not final, but kind of fine least kind
of day. Oh it's in the sixth inning and they're
only playing seven tonight, Like what's going on?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Is that the same as you seeing the Indianapolis Pacers.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, kind of, but like it's not close to being
it's not bottom of the ninth inning. It's in the
sixth inning.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Well, you remember when they had the shortened games, the
short and doubleheader games?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yes, four years ago?

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah, sure, yeah, okay, I guess that's stuck in my brain.
And lastly, I want to mention the White Sox loss
fast of five. They're three and twenty on.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
The ear, but they were winning. It was five to four.
The White Sox were winning thirty eight minutes ago. You
know what, I had my moment of glory there. I
really have to find out when what date they're now
projected to win their tenth game of the season or
to be mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. Oh, they be
mathematic eliminated before they win their tenth game of the year.

(34:28):
Oh interesting, interesting, interesting.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Hey Mike chouded his ninth home right, Yeah, that's gay.
I'm trying to find positive sir.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Thank you, Brian Fenley, appreciate it. My friend the Jason
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Speaker 2 (35:32):
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Speaker 1 (35:40):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Mets are gonna get swept by the Giants,
aren't they? Yep, three nothing Giants with the lead over
the Mets in the fifth inning. You got the Knicks. Yeah, no,
you're right.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
You really can't complain, but you're right. Hurricane you actually
have action. You're right, You're right, But the show is
tonight and I'm watching in the Mets.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
You don't have to. There are plenty of movies or
other games. You don't have to watch the Mets. Right,
there's a rule you have to watch. If you're from
New York and you pick a baseball team, you have
to watch that team. You have no choice.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Well, I was trying to give you an option out,
like say Ty Shirt were at a stage of Bloodless
Coup and put on something he wanted on that screen
and said.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
No, you have to watch Mets. I have to watch Mets.
What do you want to talk about getting paid? Caitlyn
Clark and her deal with Nike is now official. As
we heard last week, the rumors twenty eight million dollar
contract for her. She's going to get her own signature shoe.

(36:42):
This contract was by far better than what was offered
from Adidas and under Armour. They were downed a seven
million dollar deal sixteen million dollar deal total. This is
twenty eight million dollars for Caitlyn Clark and her own
signature shoe coming her way courtesy of Nike. But as hey,
as everybody tells me, whoa people aren't gonna keep following
Kate and Clark and watch her. Oh that's over at

(37:03):
pl Okay. Never mind that a number of cities for
the w NBA, they've already moved their games into bigger
arenas and figured out the scheduling to accommodate. No, but
no one's gonna watch no, no one's gonna watch.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Them in Indiana where they have problems with people being
able to see the pacers, oftentimes, there have been a
bunch of deals brokers to allow people to watch the
Fever play. And what was interesting in reading and I'd
love some more of the particulars kind of like the
little oh and by the way kind of things in

(37:36):
the articles were that several of the companies that were
trying to buy for her services and her signature here
for shoes, like yeah, but you need to stay at
Iowa another year for this deal to work.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, I know, not doing it. Oh okay, and look
she played it well, she played it right, and now
twenty eight million dollar deal for the next seven years
from night like Steph Curry got into the mix right
where the game too, you know, negotiations as well, trying
to lure things there. I think he's already got well
his what his god god daughter'll probably be in in

(38:10):
those kicks before long.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
But yeah, just I mean twenty eight million. You know,
when we talked about ten figure deal, I thought it
might have been a little north of that. And maybe
there's some incentives based on sales mixed therein that we're
not privy to. But that's one hell of a base regardless.
And not worried about her salary from the WNBA anymore?
Are We're not really worried about that. Not worried about it? Well, No,
people are still going to complain about that because such

(38:32):
a nice easy thing to complain about.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Again.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Revenues ten billion NBA, yeah, two hundred million, Yeah, WNBLA
doesn't mean.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
That that can't grow. No, And maybe if you'd invest
in that.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, And this always goes like in our business and
in most businesses, Right, you can only invest so much
on a theory before you say, hey, I've got to
see bigger returns before I'm gonna kick over more cash. Right,
I'd like to franchise my restaurant. Well, you're barely breaking
even here, Yeah, but we're breaking even.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Let's go. I'll give you two things that are definitely
going to still happen with time on. Now Caitlyn Clark
twenty eight million dollar deal. Now, I'll guarantee you two things. One,
media other stars are gonna continue to throw up on
themselves when they try to discuss Caitlyn Clark, and they're
gonna get the entire heel of their foot in their

(39:24):
mouths because so many people just don't know how to
talk women's sports. We've seen it already. It's gonna continue
because Caitlin Clark's a big story and it's amazing so
many people that don't know how to do it, but
it's going to happen. We're gonna we're gonna get stories
like with the Indianapolis Star guy so many times. We're
gonna get that story all the time. And the second
thing I'll guarantee you is this, the backlash against her

(39:46):
is going to increase. The backlash from players is going
to increase. And on the court, cool, Hey, welcome to WNBA,
Come here, prove yourself. But off the court, the backlash
you realize she's she's shown up and she's going to
lift the WNBA to heights they've never been at before.
I'm sorry it didn't happen for you. Sorry, came around
at the wrong time. This is how sports goes. If

(40:07):
you understand how sports goes. As time goes on, more
people get paid, Superstars arrive when they arrive, and Caitlin
Clark has arrived now doesn't mean anything bad for you,
doesn't mean anything. It just means she's the superstar that's
gonna lift the league. And I'm sorry it wasn't you.
Sorry it didn't happen for you. But talk to all
the NFL players in the seventies. How wait a minute,
I'm having all kinds of trouble in my life and
I don't have any money. Well, that's just the way

(40:28):
the world goes. Now those two things are gonna happen
continuously with katelink Well.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
And in theory, the benefits for them in post career
get better because of the moneies that are now flowing in.
This helps not only short term but long term. And
it goes back to as we were discussing this in
the throes of the Final Four and the title game
and everything else, like, sorry, folks, relate to the party.
They're here now, get them a drink and let's enjoy

(40:53):
the ride. Exit about a Fresca exit swelling dome. Those
are two things that will continue in perpetuity with Aitlyn Clark.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Coming up next. We got a big story out of
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