May 2, 2024 • 38 mins
Jason and Mike debate if Deion Sanders has gone too far this time on social media. And Jason tells you why the Denver Nuggets are now the NBAs Evil Empire!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome in side hour two. Yes, well,
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Frattullo, Czar
of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Mike, Hi, Marv. It's a beautiful night here. We've got
a lot of activity, a lot of action. I led
the defensive sets and the excitement that we've seen throughout
the course of the night, crashing the boards. I mean,
you can't draw it up on the whiteboard any better
than this, not. I mean, Darvin Ham would be dumbfounded
trying to draw up a play to count of the
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defense that has been thrown at him.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And we just watch a sensational goal by the Los
Angeles Kings to tie this game at one apiece where
it had been Uh Skinner comes out behind the net
to to try to clear the puck and it takes
a weird bounce off the boards and it bounces right
into the front of the net where the net is empty,
and the kings and tie the game.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Like that's about it. That's as big a gift as
you're gonna see that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I've seen that a couple of times in my life,
where where the puck is cleared around the boards and
it just hits an edge and instead of going all
the way around, it goes to the front of the
net and there's somebody there. I mean, like, I mean,
I've seen that like three or four times in my
whole life. And and and there it is, and it
just happened right there again, Cope Patar.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We saw it in the season finale, right six seconds
yes of glory to end the regular season and sational
goal right where it checked a little bounce off of
the the side sideboard and straight on do us skater
where we sit right now, two minutes to go before
I got to stop doing Marv Albert because my voice
(02:04):
it's not gonna make it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Your voice is already struggling. You haven't even done any
of it now. A spectacular decision by Mike harmon right now,
only other game, only NBA game going on right now.
We have the Celtics beat the Heat earlier tonight, Mavericks
lead the Clippers fifty two to forty four two minutes
before halftime. Look, this is one of those nights where
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somebody's gonna come out of this really feeling bad, and
it's either going to be doom and gloom for the
Clippers and the direction of their franchise, or doom and
gloom for the Mavericks and the direction of their franchise.
Not all playoff losses are created equally, but to two,
whoever wins, goes up three to two. Obviously, Clippers at
home again fifty two to forty four, though Mavericks with
the lead buck forty five to go before halftime.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
The big Man Zubatch coming up big for them early
on thirteen points in this first half and active at
the rim, so big challenge for the Mavericks. Luka Doncic
with the illness uh fifteen points early going.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Zubox with a big first half here like in the
nineties when Zuba's pants were very big.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Nicely, that's a good reference. Jason Smith really dug deep
for that one. Road Warriors are run around with those.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
If you go back there was a pro set you
could still buy Zubaz pants on Amazon. Oh I know
you can. Yeah, Like I could get like a pair
of jets Zubaz pants. If I really I was thinking
about doing that. I think my kids would disown me.
You just wear by yourself where when you're at home,
running around your house, listening to music, dancing around your
living room where you us. That's what I'm doing, dancing
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through life. Big story out of college football. Look, this
has been incredibly interesting to follow the last few days,
and this has been the back and forth that's going
on with Colorado head coach Deon Sanders, his sun Shador Sanders,
and the players who have been leaving the portal for
Colorado coming in. And now we have Dion Sanders and
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his son both going back at a player who transferred
out of and hit the portal, leaving Colorado going on
playing FCS. Was had a pretty good year in FCS.
But we've seen Dion and Colorado take a lot of
attention the last few days about how they run things
there and it's nothing that you're surprised about. You're hearing
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some former players say, oh, they didn't really care about me.
He never bothered to learn my name, you know, didn't
give me a chance. I didn't feel like I was
part of the program. And Dion Sanders and Shouldur Sanders
have responded on social media and they're kind of wearing
this as a badge going back at this kid who
was transferred out. Both Dion and should Dorcha dursays, I
don't remember this guy. He must have been mid Someone
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posted video of him getting beat in practice with Colorado
as and a lot of people liked it. And then
one of his new teammates posted video of his teammate
that put video up of him beating him in practice
with Colorado say hey, you only had like thirty five
play last year or something crazy like that. So it's
this huge back and forth going on that Dion and
(05:05):
Shador Sanders are involved in. And I'm telling you, first
thing I'm gonna tell you is this is that I'm
gonna double down on what I said a week and
a half ago about this. Dion Sanders in Colorado have
to show less style and more stability because right now
the image from outside of the program. And it's a
big deal because Dion needs to see what the image
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of the program is from outside, Because do you think
there's anybody in the Colorado program that tells mean something different?
Nobody's gonna do there's anybody that disagrees with him or
does every day. The twenty people that he knows, they
all say, yeah, whatever you want, you do whatever you want,
say whatever you want. Dion doing great power.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's like saying, you know, it's karma that you get
hurt for staying with and being loyal to a team.
It's like being you know, all of these circumstances that
we we yes men, that's all you have. Like entertainers,
the Lebron James world. You go on down the line.
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Who tells him? No, Nobody Nobody.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Tells Dan I know because the guy does stuff that
he shouldn't do, gets on social media and looks down
on a kid, right because someone posted this kid's stats
and Dion just wrote, oh good lord, Like why is
why are you as a former coach, why are you
doing this? What's the win for you on this? Like
Dion is just like I feel like he's got blood
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in his eye everywhere he goes. And this is what
I'm building here in Colorado and if you're if you're
no good, you're not for us here, and we're going forward.
We don't care. And yeah, we'll lose half our team
to the portal, but I'll get half the team in
the Portland. We're gonna go win. I don't understand why
he's doing this, because all he's doing is ruining the
image of Colorado outside of the program. I get that
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you think, Hey, everything I'm doing is right, and this
is why Dion needs somebody around him saying hey, I
know you're you're you're a new style coach deon and
everything is great, but don't go on social media and
take on a kid. Don't do it. Just say hey,
I'm sorry he felt. That's how it went here. We
wish him all the best of luck and move on.
Why are you fighting with a kid? You look like
you're bullying him when you and you and your son.
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It's getting back in him with social media. And I
get this. In the world and when players want to
go back each other on social media, I understand that.
I get that, but I get that if Shadura Sanders
wants to stick up for his dad and they're going
I get it. But deon, stay out of it. Don't
go on social media and say, oh good lord when
the stats get posted. Right, don't talk about guys that
leave the program and make it seem like good riddance,
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Because bottom line is, there's many things that change in
college sports, and you know, and child sports changed every
five minutes. And Dion wants to push himself forward as
I'm a new style head coach and I bring it
a new way to look at things. But certain things
don't change, and that is parents when they're sending their
kids to schools, either for academic or or sports reasons,
they want to know I'm going someplace where my kid
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can play. I want to go where I can trust
the coaching staff because I'm trusting their development to this guy,
and I want to know if things don't go well,
that it's not gonna end bed. Do any of those
things that if you're if you're a parent, if you're
a parent, is do any of those things sound like
Colorado at all? Like you can go and trust to
your kid's gonna do well, because d I may love
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your kid now, but if he can't win, what do
you what did you say last week? We don't lose anybody.
We lost backups. Oh, so he doesn't care about kids
that are backups. Meanwhile, he's gonna have backups on his
team this year. He's gonna have eighty backups on his
team this year. And he said, I don't care about backups.
There's no stability with that organization, and and and it's
it's such a it's such a bad spot from outside.
It's such a bad look for Dion that what he's
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done that he doesn't realize this is that he has
now put a clock on how long he has to
win in Colorado. He has sped up that clock immensely. Right,
he showed up last year and they owned September. They
didn't end well, but okay, hey we're gonna transfer. We're
gonna get the guys here we want, all right, But
now with all of this going on where I'm gonna
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bully kids and I'm gonna kick kids out of the
program and tell them they can leave, and all of
this going on, and such a lack of cohesion and
a lack of stability, he is now fast forwarded that
clock to where he has to win by and that's
gotta be this season. If Dion has a bad year
this year with his kids and Travis Hunter, who were hey,
I got two top five picks overall in the NFL draft. Right,
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Travis Hunter is a top five pick. My kid's gonna
be a top five pick. He's arguing with people on
social media about should dr Sanders being a top five pick?
If you don't win this year, it's Colorado think you're
the guy? Or are they gonna see this is so
much more of a headache instability. We're gonna yearn for
the one and eleven season because at least we did
that in anonymity, like you have. You have, you have
advanced the amount of time you have left to win
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because you can't. You can't help but get on social
media and get out there and say look at me.
And when kids different, when someone differs with you of
their opinion, you attack them and that's not a good look.
All of these things are gonna come back to haunt
Deon Sanders to the point again where if he doesn't
win this year, how much longer does he have in Colorado?
How much longer? I mean because others, other programs win,
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other It's not like he's doing something and nothing else
has happened. If he's doing something and suddenly they're eleven
and one and playing for the national championship. Great, but
I still see teams like Washington and Michigan. They're all
going to the National they're winning games eleven and one.
They're not making fun of players that leave and transfer
someplace else. They're not taking on kids that didn't have
a great experience. You got to just have a little
bit more class again, less style, and more substance and
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more stability with the program.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's what he needs. But Jason, he's new school, He's
that guy. He's oh, unless it's just bullying, just in
a different form because it's on social media instead of
the way coaches used to be.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And look inside the program. I can't pretend to.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Speak for the kids that are part of the program
and how they feel on a day to day because
I imagine most student athletes feel like they're not getting
their just attention just do on a day to day basis,
unless you're the star, right, star treatment, star players, all
that other stuff. I've never been convinced he's staying much
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longer than his kids are there either, So that whole
part is still sitting in the background.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
No, and you know. And it's funny you say that,
because you know what he seems like right now. He
seems like the youth coach that I'm coaching my kids.
And then when my kids are gone, I quit. I'm
gonna coach and those are the kids I care about
the most, are my kids. Like the other kids can play,
that's fine, but I'm coaching this travel team or this
club team because my kids are on it, because I'm
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gonna push them as far as I can wherever they
can for them. And then when I can't coach him anymore,
then I'm done. I'm gonna walk away. Like that's what
he seems like right now, coaching his kids and the
couple of other special kids that he's got, Like he's
like a youth coach, And how can you, how can you?
How can you have that image out here as a
college football coach and succeed when that's the kid?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, you know, as we've seen with a lot of
university administrators, Uh, they don't really need seem to know
much of anything.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I'll bring back our old pal Tom Looney.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Uh, just for a second, the old adage of just
because someone's in charge doesn't mean they know what they're
doing right and that, and that's where you get for administration.
If enrollment is fine and applications are still going up
because you know, you get pretty big fees where every
time someone applies to your school, and all of that
is flowing just fine, then there's nothing to see here
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as far as most administrators, as long as he's not
going to get caught up in a bunch of allegations
and such.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I think what Mike's trying to say is they're all dumbasses.
That's kind of where it comes from.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, that's truly where I'm at, and you can apply
that to wherever you want in the world at large.
But it's just that that idea and watching him clap
back and everybody defending all the haters just getting after Dean.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It's like he kind of earned this one.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And if this is how he fills his days and
finds some level of joy, good on him. But the
optics of it are terrible in a million ways. The
youth sports angle is exactly you know, down the highway
I was headed, so you grab that. So that's where
we're at is I'm going to get my so and
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mister Hunter, see I get bored.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Very good, very uh uh.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That hey, uh that you you get them to the
the NFL, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I did my job. Yeah, that's and then I'm gonna
and then I'm done. I mean that, That's kind of
what it looks like right now at Colorado with him
and and look, and I'm just saying you have to
pay attention to the National optics because this is where
your players are coming from. And eventually one more cycle
of this. Are kids really gonna say I want to
go play for him? No, they're gonna say I could
go there, and if I'm good, he'll love me. But
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what if I struggle a little bit in the beginning,
What if I don't He's he just gonna turn the
page on me. Is even know my name? Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know that. I'm down with that
because there's many other places you can go that you
can succeed at where you will feel much more comfortable
in and have a sense of stability with the program.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm thinking about another all time great uh Woody would
Packer remember the famous uh Seinfeld episode right where uh
mister Pitt wants to be on the balloon for Thanksgiving
and it's like, what are you an agitator?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I mean that's kind of where Dion is in a
lot of this doesn't deny his greatness as a as
a speaker and as a player, one of the greatest
we've ever seen, but at this point, a lot of
it is just an agitator.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
See if you can get under people's skim, Jason, the
real question, Yeah, so do we cut in paste with
uh which VHS covered? Do we put his logo on? Okay?
Is it over steven Sagall and out for blood? I
know Dave Lewis there will be blood. Oh oh no,
there will be blood. I gotta go. There will be
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blood because you know it's coming. That's where there will
be blood at Colorado DJ. Did you know Eli, if
I go into your transfer portal and I go all
the way to the other side of the transfer portal,
I'm in your transfer port start yelling drain, and then
he picks up a bowling pen. I'm done. Fox Sports
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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon, live Fromthetirack dot com Studios. Halftime, Mavericks
lead the Clippers by ten, fifty six forty six in
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a pivotal Game five. I mean, when is in game
five pivotal? It's It's always pivotal. They should always say
this pivotal Game five. Wait a minute, you say game five,
it's pivotal. It's pivotal. If it's three to one or
it's two to two, it's pivotal, doesn't matter. It's always
pivotal always. Yeah. I mean Game seven is the game
seven is the must win. Obviously I just call it
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the full crew. Yeah, but game via the pivotal Game five.
So this third quarter just underway, Dallas again leads the
Clippers fifty six to forty six. Luca, who was banged
up still had a pretty good first half, scored sixteen
for the Mavericks. We'll have more on this game coming up.
But earlier tonight we saw what we thought was gonna happen.
It'll be it a little bit easier. The Celtics eliminate
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the Heat one eighteen eighty four, And I gotta say
a really good thing about the Celtics after they completely
imploded losing that game earlier this series to tie the
series at one game apiece, Boston said, Okay, time to
throw the hammer down. Stop playing with your food. Even
without Chris tops porzingis, which is gonna you know, obviously
this will come to be a bigger deal as the
playoffs go on. But this is an undermanned opponent in
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the Miami Heat, and they gave him a clinic on
how to play basketball the last three games. So I
give the Celtics a lot of credit. Where it looked
earlier in the series, Hey man, how have you lost focus?
How do you allow a team without their best player
to come in and beat you like this? No, they
put the hammer down, So I give them a lot
of credit going out finishing this series and finishing it
rather easily the last three games.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, with authority to a nice little throat back to
our earlier conversation. You just saw, but they're the better team,
even with Jimmy Butler out there, even though that would
have been interesting to see, you know, heat culture and
all that stuff, And we talked about it after the
game they gave away. It's like, why are you messing around,
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especially when you got guys that are nursing injuries. We
talked about Porzingis even before this latest revelation of you know,
a few games or how long he's potentially out, but
you get good balance. White and Brown both with twenty
five and White has been fantastic right through the series
and really upped his scoring, really ratcheted that up quite
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a bit.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
These in their best player for the whole series.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Sure, you know, just in terms of Jalen Brown, you know,
Jason Tatum is a guy with the giant spotlight. Don't
much like we were talking about this Clippers Mavericks series.
Same thing. It's the all right, Celtics, you raced away
from everybody in the Eastern Conference. All of this is
just the preliminaries, right, Let's wait and see. It's like
we do with the Dodgers in Major League Baseball. Okay,
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you won one hundred and five games or eight game
one hundred and eight games whatever it is, and as all,
the only thing that matters.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Is October, like we don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
With the Clippers and with the Mavericks, we're at that
point it's like, oh, you're gonna make the playoffs, now
show me. With the Celtics in this iteration, how many
people are calling for them to blow it up after
last year with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and we've
still seen Tatum shrink away at times and certainly in
this playoff didn't need to be the the A list guy.
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But certainly that's an ongoing concern as you get deeper
in the Eastern Conference playoffs, they don't win like it's
title or bust.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Let's look, there's certain teams where it is that kind
of situation for them, it is title or busting without
porzingis that will play into later on rounds. But here
was they did what they needed to do. They've beaten
out man team and they had the hiccup there, Hey,
is it gonna be like? It was? No, we we've
shown that we know what to do now and it was,
like I said, it was a clinic. The last three games.
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This unwatchable unless you were a Celtic fan. Oh, I
hate you got out of it really fast, and then
you went watch the Mets in the Cups.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Look, it's why there's really one series going on. Right,
there were two series in the first round, the Knicks
and the Sixers and the Nuggets and the Lakers everything else.
They don't even care if the games are on television.
I mean the Candalleers magic is fun, dude. No one
even knows. No one, nobody knows where to know, I know,
not to see it. This would be a true TV
or not TV. No one even cares all these other
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even even the Mavericks and the Clippers tonight. Yeah, great
Mavericks Clippers. Yeah, there's two series in the first round.
One is over and one is tomorrow night. Like the
Knicks and the Sixers is now in the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
It becomes a for this series, it's the hey, can
either team win it? No, it's a to two game five.
It's like, yeah, then I don't care.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
But now you look at the Heat who get eliminated,
and you know, so much for Heat culture. He culture,
he got us away NI culture watching Tyler Hero who
had a really bad game tonight, right, he shot six
out of nineteen. He can't stop anybody defensively. And then
I got to watch him in his postgame pres conference
wearing a bucket hat and a wears Waldo's shirt. He
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did kind of have a Waldo vibe going on. This
is a guy who's been in the league now for
five years, and it's impossible for me to take him
seriously as potential star. You hear all the stories about
how things are going in Miami back and forth with Tyler.
Here's like, boy, why is this guy not better? He's
been the same player for the last four years. Right,
he's twenty four years old. He's been a twenty point
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a game scorer for the last three years. All his
numbers are the same. Like he's consistent. I'll give you
he's consistent. But this guy, you can see the way
he fills it up. He could be a much bigger player.
But when when you see that, you see the way
they talk about him in Miami and and and there's
not as much push up for him to be to
be the face of the franchises. As Jimmy Butler gets
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older and Tyler Herro comes in, I see games like
tonight where he doesn't where he doesn't come up big.
And then I just not that it's a big deal
how you dress in the postgame press conference. But still
I'm like, this is what you're wear it out to
meet the media after your team gets eliminated. In five
Now you're getting in the hat guy.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
No no, no, other people have the people and how they
wear their hair.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
No no, no, no, the best, no, no, I don't care about.
But it's the shirt. This is more the shirt you
like the wearers Waldo stripes.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
When Lebron got a Gilligan shirt, Hey, little buddy, he's
got the little bucket hat on you.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Jenjer marya dude.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
That Professor was underutilized. I think they sabotaged him in
episodes that were never shown.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well they never even had him in the credits in
the first two seasons and all the rest they named
the first five and the rest. Oh gee, thanks, So
what are we doing here? We couldn't just say that
Professor and Marianne. We couldn't do that. But like it's
hard for me to take him somewhere. They had to
pay more. I want him, you know, he should be
someone who is a much bigger star. He should be
a much bigger part of the NBA, and he just isn't.
(23:19):
And it's really difficult because, yeah, no, it's not always
about what you wear.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Me.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I look, I still go back to when Lebron James
had that huffy press conference and walked out in the
in the suit and shorts and you really got I'm
gonna show you a man, I am walking out of
this with my with my dressman shorts. Hey, Joson. At
the end of the day, it's just basketball. No, you're right,
it's just it's just basketball.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
What's funny though, is that that line was part of
a long monologue where he actually was saying it's some
really good things.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
But the fact that you could just clip.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
An office and say it's just it's just basketball.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I just like, I go back and watch it every
now and again. I go back and watch it, just
that last ten seconds of that huffy press conference where
he walks the storm right through the guys. Yeah it's shorts.
It's like on a television show when someone has to
walk off. Like in real life, if you're walking away
from somebody, you turn and walk the other way, but
because of the way television is, you have to walk
off past them. So they can turn and look back.
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And that's that's just how it like, that's like what Lebron,
I'm gonna walk by everybody instead of just walking off
the podium. I'm gonna say, everybody can see me in
my in my short set suit. But like, I mean,
you know, here's you didn't like the hero. No, like
here's Tyler Hero and you got eliminated. And you have
to understand a little bit and mature a little bit
and get that. Okay, I'm representing the team, I'm representing
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my teammates, and I'm out. And it's not that he
said anything awful, but again, it's part of the image
of this guy. We should be taking him more seriously
as an NBA superstar, and it's just hard to It's hard,
I would say, that's blowing things from coming out. There
should be some kind of maturity, some kind of dependency
on Hey, he's a great player, and you still get there,
You still get the the the impression that he and
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the Heat are kind of at arm's length with each other.
We like you, we don't love you kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Because of the inconsistency, because he's had games this year
where he's taken over. I mean, you go watch what
the heat were doing, and with Jimmy Butler out there's
somewhere he goes on a heater and it just stays right.
Other times you have a quick burst. You saw it
in the previous game where three pointer, quick layup, cut
to the hoop. It's like all right, he's on and
then just like that it gets derailed. I think with
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the demeanor and the exit interview attire. Here, I'll give
him the pass because a you might be on a
flight directly to Cancun.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
The other is the now's you're gonna wear in the plane?
Why not? I'm gonna wear that another plane, okay, all right?
And other folks.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I mean, look, it's become a customary in the US
to wear really ratty sweatpants and flip flops.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Hey, that's that's a style that I brought in, like
like thirty five years ago. When I was a teenager,
I would fly in sweatpants and the sweatshirt. What what
you want to be comfortable? Why would I wear a
suit on a plane? Office Kelsey invented the faith come on, man,
but the idea being that this is just the end
that we knew was coming. So I don't need to
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dress it up, nor do I need to dress up.
I'm out.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Like we knew we were gonna lose this series. It
was just a matter of how far we could extend it.
And guess what, they got their ass kicked tonight. So
going up there, if he'd come in in a suit
and tie, or he did the razzle dazzle Richard gear
that little sparkle coat from Chicago, I don't think that's
helping anything.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But let me just let me give you an example
here when when I was at ESPN as a production assistant, Right,
everybody started as a PA and you wanted to get
promoted to be an AP, which meant you would get
to do stories every day. You get to travel and
interview athletes and put together your own stories, and you
had a better you got more money. It was a
promotion everybody wanted. Right, So they don't remember you, Yeah, yeah, right,
(26:54):
I was the best PA and AP they ever had there,
and then asked the only thing they would do is
confirm that you did work. Yeah, that's documented, And I
remember it was when my coordinated producer who they put
somebody in charge of your career when you start there,
they go, okay, you're starting here, and like you have
five new pas start every month, and each CP gets
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one of those people and you're in charge of them
while they're a production assistant until they get promoted. And
what that meant is that they kept an eye on
your career. They talked to the producers once a month,
how is Jason doing, How is so and so doing?
Grady does this? He does it? And you met with
your CP once a month and they went over what
your last month was like. They said, okay, hey, here's
what you did good, here's you can work on. Here's
what people are saying about you. And it was great.
(27:38):
It was able to keep your career going. And I
remember when I was close to getting promoted and I
said to my CP, I said, is there like a
secret formula to getting promoted? Is there something? And he
said to me, you know, it's funny you say that,
because when we all get together and we talk about
promoting somebody, this is what we talk about. And they
just use this example because it's back when Lou Holtz
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was coaching no when notere Name every year was such
a big deal and Notre Name was winning national championships
in the nineties, and they said, the big thing we
always say is that, is this person ready to get promoted?
Could they pull off booking and conducting an interview for
Sunday Conversation, which was the big thing and always did,
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and book the travel and book the talent and go
there and have the shoot come off well, come back,
edit it and get it on air and have it
be a good product. Like that's what they looked at.
And I said, wow, okay, And basically what that is
is that we want to see production assistants go from
being kids in running shoes who were just working hard
and running around all over the place. Too. I got
(28:41):
a little bit more grace under fire, and I'm maturing
a bit and you can give me more responsibility. And
I was like, wow, that's interesting because that's so anti
my personality about not being crazy. So I was like, Okay, great,
I appreciate that, thank you, And that's always stuck with me.
And that's kind of where I think Tyler hero is at.
Is that, dude, do you want to be the kid
in running show or do you want to be somebody
(29:01):
who could be the next big star in the NBA
and be someone that gets the publicity and gets the
respect and the relevance that someone of your talent deserves.
Find a way to be, to be mature, to be
someone that the team can count on you as part
of their future and not have it at arm's length,
and be someone that people can take seriously. That's kind
of how I think about it. It's I get he's
only twenty four. I know I'm saying something. You gotta
(29:22):
go from hey man, go to the club every night too,
and I'm gonna come home and I'm gonna be in
my slippers and my dog is gonna be at my
feet and I'm gonna read the newspaper and smoke a pipe. Now,
I'm not saying you need to do that. I don't
think they want you smoking a pipe. Well, i'd be
like back in when when smoking a pipe was a thing,
like a regular pipe, like when they would do commercials
for pipes and every pipes. Yeah, like that's kind of
where Tyler Hero needs to be. And I think about
(29:44):
that when I think about him and his career, is
like he needs to drop the kid and running shoes
kind of thing and just show a little bit more mature.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Kena did see you've had a very visceral reaction to
the video pull back the curtain here the Fox Sports
Radio TIREC dot Com Studios for monitors, and it was
in our upper right and you just sat back in
your chair.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Win. Huh.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And then we made the obvious where's Waldo and Gilligan jokes? Yeah,
and well, yeah's defense. It's a great captain suit. I
mean he is going fishing after he is.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I mean he can be right out of plane. TNT
can just take that right, that right from the postgame
presser and put it right on the gone fishing, like,
put it right on Lebron's shoulders. Hey, we're going fishing, everybody.
It was pretty good. Exit out bout of Fresca, Exit
swollen down. The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Carmen. The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
(30:39):
Mike Carmen Live from the ti IRAQ dot Com Studios.
Coming up next. Do we have a story out of
the NBA for you, because we could be on the
cusp of who the next great evil empire in the
NBA might be? Nice Cleveland? Come on, man, that's next,
(30:59):
right you're Jason and Mike Fox, be sure to catch
live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
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Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best Friend Mike Harmon, Mom,
my best friend Mike hard when it's time to change.
My voice is cracking a little bit. I know why
(31:21):
because I spend so much time doing the Marv Albert.
That effort really screwed up the vocal card.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Man, I'm telling you, tell you my mom's got a
h got a cold or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
She sounded like wolf man Jack. I almost wanted to record, Hey, okay,
how you doing that? I'm like, whoa, I said, Mom,
are you smoking heads? She goes, I'd like to you know,
the impressions I've been working on in the car driving
to work. What's that? Are all of the big DJs
now I'm talking like this on the on the on
Serious XM that I listened to when I listen to
(31:51):
and it's like funny because I know certain things that
they will say right away all the time, like that,
I know this guy's gonna say this, This's gonna say this.
There's a lot of curses. There's so many cursing right, No,
guys don't really cur The DJs don't really curse. That's
why I sent it into the head of the music.
If I'm on XM, only I'm cursing. Yeah. No, actually no,
Rich Davis is the only one that curses. No, no,
(32:11):
oh yeah. On Fox Sports Radio, no, no, they don't curse.
They don't curse. They don't say a lot like I have.
I don't listen like late at night or maybe that happens.
But I'm driving in to here the afternoon guys and
and and who are on the air, and I and
I I start working on my impressions of them because
I know them. I know they say the same exact
things like it's it's it's hysterical, and I'm going, boy,
is there ever going to be a way for me
(32:32):
to to make this a thing? I'm trying to work
at angle.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I don't know right now, So you know, it's it's
simmering in the background.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
It's because I get all the big ones, all the
afternoon drive ones, seventies, Channel eighties, hair Metal, hair Nation, Ozzy,
all of them. Sure bone Yeah. Working on Fox Sports
Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen live from
the Tirech dot Com Studios, Dallas is thumping the Clippers
right now now, absolutely thumping them. Has been all Mavericks.
(33:03):
They're throwing alley ups up and down the floor. This
game is ugly. Two and a half to go in
the third quarter, Alex leads the Clippers eighty to fifty six.
We'll have more on this game coming up in a
few minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
But at the home effort, you anticipate no, no, no,
not really, even with the Sparks and Cameron Brink and
everybody there.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Now, yeah, but I expect Loo Kawhi is going to
eventually to oh too soon, too soon? What did you
do there? Too soon? Too soon? But you know, sports
and different leagues always are better when there's an evil empire,
gotta be right, always better as evil empire, And clearly
in the NBA we have not had an evil empire
(33:43):
for a little while, right. The Lakers, as much as
polarizing as Lebron is, they don't win enough to be
an evil empire, right, they don't. They don't. It's hard.
You can't really hate the Warriors. It's hard to hate Steph.
But we did. It's hard. No, I mean, look, you
can no, you can just be realistic about the Warriors
and their fans might not like it, but it's hard
to hate.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
No, but a couple of years ago they got hateable,
not individually, it has a squad because you were tired
of them. Yeah, but it's like when Lebron was making
all his runs. Yeah but no, but it's different. Lebron
was always polar Rode, but he's also there every year.
It's like the Patriots. He don't get tired of seeing.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
There's a difference between being an evil empire just being
tired of seeing a team like, oh, then again, I'm
turning it off.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
No, but it's the Yankees. They were evil because they
were in your face and.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
They won a lot. I'm gonna go watch Silos. I suck.
Nobody cares. I don't care about this game. So but
if you had, if the NBA had an evil empire,
it would work even better than it is now. And
it's hard because you're looking, Okay, who are the teams
can dominate? But I'm telling you the Denver Nuggets have
(34:49):
the potential of being a great evil empire now right
because there because dude dresses like stuck stopping because he's
a super villain. That's the best part. I mean, come
on good night, Agnes never get older? Uh No, because
they haven't. They have this optic of being unlikable. Right.
You have Michael Malone who always has been, hey, why
(35:11):
don't we get more respect? And he's tried to tone
that down a little bit, but it doesn't matter. You know,
he walks around going you know, I saw I watch
a TV show this morning and sixty eight percent of
the conversation was about the Lakers, eighteen percent was about us,
and the rest is about the off day for the Knicks.
We are not getting the respects. So they have this
this optic that they're easy to not like and that
(35:34):
they're so into their own success. Right, and why are
you not celebrating our success like you should? Like you?
Why is no one celebrating us in our excellence like
you celebrate other teams? Right? Malone can be very petty.
Jokic is a very is a is a superstar that
he doesn't say anything. You see his excellence on the court,
(35:55):
but it's really hard. He doesn't give you the big
highlights that you want from other players. You can see
what kind of play he is. He is just one
play from early this Lakers series where they were on
a fast break and he threw a bounce pass for
a layup through three people. That was just, Oh my god,
you gotta be kidding me. So his excellence is really
hard for the average fan to kind of understand. He
(36:16):
also grew from despicable he did you have that well?
And you add and his brothers who want to get
in fights again hateable, But yeah, discuss I mean, still
part of the whole thing because you don't because they're
not as personable, and because the coach is petty, and
and they seem into their own success. Yeah, they're easy
to kind of say, ah, you know what, I just
(36:37):
don't like them, and it would be great for the sport.
They should embrace that. They should embrace it. Hey, hey,
I don't care if you don't like me and you
like Lebron James Moore, We're gonna win the championship anyway.
Like they really have that evil empire or about them.
If they win again and they go into next year
and Malona's at press conferences and the parade saying you
still don't respect us as much as we could, and
(36:57):
Yoki just disappearing, you don't hear from it all No,
it's it's actually a team that it's going to be
pretty easy to get behind them being the evil Empire,
they're the Spurs. No, they're very more than the Spurs.
They're more interested than the Spurs. Well, but Malone is Popovich.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
If you're gonna go down that road, right of, I'm
gonna give you some short answers and gotta be a jerk.
But it's you know, it's a joke just between us, right,
but the viewer isn't in on the joke.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
And Michael Malone, you know, it's Mike.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
You think about his his whining or looking and trying
to get some attention for the squad. I don't know,
I just kind of tune him out. Jamal Murray seems likable.
I mean he flexed on Lebron after Donkey on him.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
That was kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Michael Porter's got too many brothers in jail or you know,
a lot every day there's a day. I mean, boy again,
I asked it before that was his last series. Like
that's just a lot of stuff swirling around. Man, I'm
gonna concentrate and play basketball, but you know, easy to
overcome some stuff. So like there's a good story of
you know, he battled through it inies and here he
(38:00):
is fulfilling some of that promise. But there's there's nothing
dislikeable unless you hate.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Unless you hate people that go to the mountains. They
really know you hate people that go to the mountains
to ski. I don't ski, but I don't hold that. No, No,
they do in your neighborhood. Hurt you they went to
the mountains to ski. No, my senior years ski trip
was awesome. I didn't ski for five minutes, but the
ski trip was awesome. Whenever a team seems they're more
into their success, because they are. They seem very into
(38:30):
their own success, and it's a it's an optic of
you should be more into our success as well, and
things kind of flow from there. Again, it's not going
to be difficult for them to suddenly be oh, we're
the evil Empire.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Well if they all show up blinged out at the
when they get their next hunk of metal, they throw
it back there at silver saying and we need a
bigger one because we're better.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I mean, I don't know. We got another big story
out of the NBA. Next right here, Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Mike, Hi, Marv. It's a beautiful night here. We've got
a lot of activity, a lot of action. I led
the defensive sets and the excitement that we've seen throughout
the course of the night, crashing the boards. I mean,
you can't draw it up on the whiteboard any better
than this, not. I mean, Darvin Ham would be dumbfounded
trying to draw up a play to count of the
(01:02):
defense that has been thrown at him.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And we just watch a sensational goal by the Los
Angeles Kings to tie this game at one apiece where
it had been Uh Skinner comes out behind the net
to to try to clear the puck and it takes
a weird bounce off the boards and it bounces right
into the front of the net where the net is empty,
and the kings and tie the game.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Like that's about it. That's as big a gift as
you're gonna see that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I've seen that a couple of times in my life,
where where the puck is cleared around the boards and
it just hits an edge and instead of going all
the way around, it goes to the front of the
net and there's somebody there. I mean, like, I mean,
I've seen that like three or four times in my
whole life. And and and there it is, and it
just happened right there again, Cope Patar.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We saw it in the season finale, right six seconds
yes of glory to end the regular season and sational
goal right where it checked a little bounce off of
the the side sideboard and straight on do us skater
where we sit right now, two minutes to go before
I got to stop doing Marv Albert because my voice
(02:04):
it's not gonna make it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Your voice is already struggling. You haven't even done any
of it now. A spectacular decision by Mike harmon right now,
only other game, only NBA game going on right now.
We have the Celtics beat the Heat earlier tonight, Mavericks
lead the Clippers fifty two to forty four two minutes
before halftime. Look, this is one of those nights where
(02:26):
somebody's gonna come out of this really feeling bad, and
it's either going to be doom and gloom for the
Clippers and the direction of their franchise, or doom and
gloom for the Mavericks and the direction of their franchise.
Not all playoff losses are created equally, but to two,
whoever wins, goes up three to two. Obviously, Clippers at
home again fifty two to forty four, though Mavericks with
the lead buck forty five to go before halftime.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
The big Man Zubatch coming up big for them early
on thirteen points in this first half and active at
the rim, so big challenge for the Mavericks. Luka Doncic
with the illness uh fifteen points early going.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Zubox with a big first half here like in the
nineties when Zuba's pants were very big.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Nicely, that's a good reference. Jason Smith really dug deep
for that one. Road Warriors are run around with those.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
If you go back there was a pro set you
could still buy Zubaz pants on Amazon. Oh I know
you can. Yeah, Like I could get like a pair
of jets Zubaz pants. If I really I was thinking
about doing that. I think my kids would disown me.
You just wear by yourself where when you're at home,
running around your house, listening to music, dancing around your
living room where you us. That's what I'm doing, dancing
(03:38):
through life. Big story out of college football. Look, this
has been incredibly interesting to follow the last few days,
and this has been the back and forth that's going
on with Colorado head coach Deon Sanders, his sun Shador Sanders,
and the players who have been leaving the portal for
Colorado coming in. And now we have Dion Sanders and
(04:01):
his son both going back at a player who transferred
out of and hit the portal, leaving Colorado going on
playing FCS. Was had a pretty good year in FCS.
But we've seen Dion and Colorado take a lot of
attention the last few days about how they run things
there and it's nothing that you're surprised about. You're hearing
(04:22):
some former players say, oh, they didn't really care about me.
He never bothered to learn my name, you know, didn't
give me a chance. I didn't feel like I was
part of the program. And Dion Sanders and Shouldur Sanders
have responded on social media and they're kind of wearing
this as a badge going back at this kid who
was transferred out. Both Dion and should Dorcha dursays, I
don't remember this guy. He must have been mid Someone
(04:43):
posted video of him getting beat in practice with Colorado
as and a lot of people liked it. And then
one of his new teammates posted video of his teammate
that put video up of him beating him in practice
with Colorado say hey, you only had like thirty five
play last year or something crazy like that. So it's
this huge back and forth going on that Dion and
(05:05):
Shador Sanders are involved in. And I'm telling you, first
thing I'm gonna tell you is this is that I'm
gonna double down on what I said a week and
a half ago about this. Dion Sanders in Colorado have
to show less style and more stability because right now
the image from outside of the program. And it's a
big deal because Dion needs to see what the image
(05:26):
of the program is from outside, Because do you think
there's anybody in the Colorado program that tells mean something different?
Nobody's gonna do there's anybody that disagrees with him or
does every day. The twenty people that he knows, they
all say, yeah, whatever you want, you do whatever you want,
say whatever you want. Dion doing great power.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's like saying, you know, it's karma that you get
hurt for staying with and being loyal to a team.
It's like being you know, all of these circumstances that
we we yes men, that's all you have. Like entertainers,
the Lebron James world. You go on down the line.
(06:02):
Who tells him? No, Nobody Nobody.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Tells Dan I know because the guy does stuff that
he shouldn't do, gets on social media and looks down
on a kid, right because someone posted this kid's stats
and Dion just wrote, oh good lord, Like why is
why are you as a former coach, why are you
doing this? What's the win for you on this? Like
Dion is just like I feel like he's got blood
(06:25):
in his eye everywhere he goes. And this is what
I'm building here in Colorado and if you're if you're
no good, you're not for us here, and we're going forward.
We don't care. And yeah, we'll lose half our team
to the portal, but I'll get half the team in
the Portland. We're gonna go win. I don't understand why
he's doing this, because all he's doing is ruining the
image of Colorado outside of the program. I get that
(06:45):
you think, Hey, everything I'm doing is right, and this
is why Dion needs somebody around him saying hey, I
know you're you're you're a new style coach deon and
everything is great, but don't go on social media and
take on a kid. Don't do it. Just say hey,
I'm sorry he felt. That's how it went here. We
wish him all the best of luck and move on.
Why are you fighting with a kid? You look like
you're bullying him when you and you and your son.
(07:06):
It's getting back in him with social media. And I
get this. In the world and when players want to
go back each other on social media, I understand that.
I get that, but I get that if Shadura Sanders
wants to stick up for his dad and they're going
I get it. But deon, stay out of it. Don't
go on social media and say, oh good lord when
the stats get posted. Right, don't talk about guys that
leave the program and make it seem like good riddance,
(07:27):
Because bottom line is, there's many things that change in
college sports, and you know, and child sports changed every
five minutes. And Dion wants to push himself forward as
I'm a new style head coach and I bring it
a new way to look at things. But certain things
don't change, and that is parents when they're sending their
kids to schools, either for academic or or sports reasons,
they want to know I'm going someplace where my kid
(07:49):
can play. I want to go where I can trust
the coaching staff because I'm trusting their development to this guy,
and I want to know if things don't go well,
that it's not gonna end bed. Do any of those
things that if you're if you're a parent, if you're
a parent, is do any of those things sound like
Colorado at all? Like you can go and trust to
your kid's gonna do well, because d I may love
(08:10):
your kid now, but if he can't win, what do
you what did you say last week? We don't lose anybody.
We lost backups. Oh, so he doesn't care about kids
that are backups. Meanwhile, he's gonna have backups on his
team this year. He's gonna have eighty backups on his
team this year. And he said, I don't care about backups.
There's no stability with that organization, and and and it's
it's such a it's such a bad spot from outside.
It's such a bad look for Dion that what he's
(08:32):
done that he doesn't realize this is that he has
now put a clock on how long he has to
win in Colorado. He has sped up that clock immensely. Right,
he showed up last year and they owned September. They
didn't end well, but okay, hey we're gonna transfer. We're
gonna get the guys here we want, all right, But
now with all of this going on where I'm gonna
(08:52):
bully kids and I'm gonna kick kids out of the
program and tell them they can leave, and all of
this going on, and such a lack of cohesion and
a lack of stability, he is now fast forwarded that
clock to where he has to win by and that's
gotta be this season. If Dion has a bad year
this year with his kids and Travis Hunter, who were hey,
I got two top five picks overall in the NFL draft. Right,
(09:14):
Travis Hunter is a top five pick. My kid's gonna
be a top five pick. He's arguing with people on
social media about should dr Sanders being a top five pick?
If you don't win this year, it's Colorado think you're
the guy? Or are they gonna see this is so
much more of a headache instability. We're gonna yearn for
the one and eleven season because at least we did
that in anonymity, like you have. You have, you have
advanced the amount of time you have left to win
(09:37):
because you can't. You can't help but get on social
media and get out there and say look at me.
And when kids different, when someone differs with you of
their opinion, you attack them and that's not a good look.
All of these things are gonna come back to haunt
Deon Sanders to the point again where if he doesn't
win this year, how much longer does he have in Colorado?
How much longer? I mean because others, other programs win,
(09:58):
other It's not like he's doing something and nothing else
has happened. If he's doing something and suddenly they're eleven
and one and playing for the national championship. Great, but
I still see teams like Washington and Michigan. They're all
going to the National they're winning games eleven and one.
They're not making fun of players that leave and transfer
someplace else. They're not taking on kids that didn't have
a great experience. You got to just have a little
bit more class again, less style, and more substance and
(10:22):
more stability with the program.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's what he needs. But Jason, he's new school, He's
that guy. He's oh, unless it's just bullying, just in
a different form because it's on social media instead of
the way coaches used to be.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And look inside the program. I can't pretend to.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Speak for the kids that are part of the program
and how they feel on a day to day because
I imagine most student athletes feel like they're not getting
their just attention just do on a day to day basis,
unless you're the star, right, star treatment, star players, all
that other stuff. I've never been convinced he's staying much
(10:59):
longer than his kids are there either, So that whole
part is still sitting in the background.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
No, and you know. And it's funny you say that,
because you know what he seems like right now. He
seems like the youth coach that I'm coaching my kids.
And then when my kids are gone, I quit. I'm
gonna coach and those are the kids I care about
the most, are my kids. Like the other kids can play,
that's fine, but I'm coaching this travel team or this
club team because my kids are on it, because I'm
(11:25):
gonna push them as far as I can wherever they
can for them. And then when I can't coach him anymore,
then I'm done. I'm gonna walk away. Like that's what
he seems like right now, coaching his kids and the
couple of other special kids that he's got, Like he's
like a youth coach, And how can you, how can you?
How can you have that image out here as a
college football coach and succeed when that's the kid?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, you know, as we've seen with a lot of
university administrators, Uh, they don't really need seem to know
much of anything.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I'll bring back our old pal Tom Looney.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Uh, just for a second, the old adage of just
because someone's in charge doesn't mean they know what they're
doing right and that, and that's where you get for administration.
If enrollment is fine and applications are still going up
because you know, you get pretty big fees where every
time someone applies to your school, and all of that
is flowing just fine, then there's nothing to see here
(12:15):
as far as most administrators, as long as he's not
going to get caught up in a bunch of allegations
and such.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I think what Mike's trying to say is they're all dumbasses.
That's kind of where it comes from.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, that's truly where I'm at, and you can apply
that to wherever you want in the world at large.
But it's just that that idea and watching him clap
back and everybody defending all the haters just getting after Dean.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It's like he kind of earned this one.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And if this is how he fills his days and
finds some level of joy, good on him. But the
optics of it are terrible in a million ways. The
youth sports angle is exactly you know, down the highway
I was headed, so you grab that. So that's where
we're at is I'm going to get my so and
(13:00):
mister Hunter, see I get bored.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Very good, very uh uh.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That hey, uh that you you get them to the
the NFL, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I did my job. Yeah, that's and then I'm gonna
and then I'm done. I mean that, That's kind of
what it looks like right now at Colorado with him
and and look, and I'm just saying you have to
pay attention to the National optics because this is where
your players are coming from. And eventually one more cycle
of this. Are kids really gonna say I want to
go play for him? No, they're gonna say I could
go there, and if I'm good, he'll love me. But
(13:35):
what if I struggle a little bit in the beginning,
What if I don't He's he just gonna turn the
page on me. Is even know my name? Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know that. I'm down with that
because there's many other places you can go that you
can succeed at where you will feel much more comfortable
in and have a sense of stability with the program.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm thinking about another all time great uh Woody would
Packer remember the famous uh Seinfeld episode right where uh
mister Pitt wants to be on the balloon for Thanksgiving
and it's like, what are you an agitator?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I mean that's kind of where Dion is in a
lot of this doesn't deny his greatness as a as
a speaker and as a player, one of the greatest
we've ever seen, but at this point, a lot of
it is just an agitator.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
See if you can get under people's skim, Jason, the
real question, Yeah, so do we cut in paste with
uh which VHS covered? Do we put his logo on? Okay?
Is it over steven Sagall and out for blood? I
know Dave Lewis there will be blood. Oh oh no,
there will be blood. I gotta go. There will be
(14:39):
blood because you know it's coming. That's where there will
be blood at Colorado DJ. Did you know Eli, if
I go into your transfer portal and I go all
the way to the other side of the transfer portal,
I'm in your transfer port start yelling drain, and then
he picks up a bowling pen. I'm done. Fox Sports
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R give this pun. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon, live Fromthetirack dot com Studios. Halftime, Mavericks
lead the Clippers by ten, fifty six forty six in
(16:53):
a pivotal Game five. I mean, when is in game
five pivotal? It's It's always pivotal. They should always say
this pivotal Game five. Wait a minute, you say game five,
it's pivotal. It's pivotal. If it's three to one or
it's two to two, it's pivotal, doesn't matter. It's always
pivotal always. Yeah. I mean Game seven is the game
seven is the must win. Obviously I just call it
(17:13):
the full crew. Yeah, but game via the pivotal Game five.
So this third quarter just underway, Dallas again leads the
Clippers fifty six to forty six. Luca, who was banged
up still had a pretty good first half, scored sixteen
for the Mavericks. We'll have more on this game coming up.
But earlier tonight we saw what we thought was gonna happen.
It'll be it a little bit easier. The Celtics eliminate
(17:34):
the Heat one eighteen eighty four, And I gotta say
a really good thing about the Celtics after they completely
imploded losing that game earlier this series to tie the
series at one game apiece, Boston said, Okay, time to
throw the hammer down. Stop playing with your food. Even
without Chris tops porzingis, which is gonna you know, obviously
this will come to be a bigger deal as the
playoffs go on. But this is an undermanned opponent in
(17:56):
the Miami Heat, and they gave him a clinic on
how to play basketball the last three games. So I
give the Celtics a lot of credit. Where it looked
earlier in the series, Hey man, how have you lost focus?
How do you allow a team without their best player
to come in and beat you like this? No, they
put the hammer down, So I give them a lot
of credit going out finishing this series and finishing it
rather easily the last three games.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, with authority to a nice little throat back to
our earlier conversation. You just saw, but they're the better team,
even with Jimmy Butler out there, even though that would
have been interesting to see, you know, heat culture and
all that stuff, And we talked about it after the
game they gave away. It's like, why are you messing around,
(18:35):
especially when you got guys that are nursing injuries. We
talked about Porzingis even before this latest revelation of you know,
a few games or how long he's potentially out, but
you get good balance. White and Brown both with twenty
five and White has been fantastic right through the series
and really upped his scoring, really ratcheted that up quite
(18:58):
a bit.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
These in their best player for the whole series.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Sure, you know, just in terms of Jalen Brown, you know,
Jason Tatum is a guy with the giant spotlight. Don't
much like we were talking about this Clippers Mavericks series.
Same thing. It's the all right, Celtics, you raced away
from everybody in the Eastern Conference. All of this is
just the preliminaries, right, Let's wait and see. It's like
we do with the Dodgers in Major League Baseball. Okay,
(19:24):
you won one hundred and five games or eight game
one hundred and eight games whatever it is, and as all,
the only thing that matters.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Is October, like we don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
With the Clippers and with the Mavericks, we're at that
point it's like, oh, you're gonna make the playoffs, now
show me. With the Celtics in this iteration, how many
people are calling for them to blow it up after
last year with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and we've
still seen Tatum shrink away at times and certainly in
this playoff didn't need to be the the A list guy.
(19:52):
But certainly that's an ongoing concern as you get deeper
in the Eastern Conference playoffs, they don't win like it's
title or bust.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Let's look, there's certain teams where it is that kind
of situation for them, it is title or busting without
porzingis that will play into later on rounds. But here
was they did what they needed to do. They've beaten
out man team and they had the hiccup there, Hey,
is it gonna be like? It was? No, we we've
shown that we know what to do now and it was,
like I said, it was a clinic. The last three games.
(20:22):
This unwatchable unless you were a Celtic fan. Oh, I
hate you got out of it really fast, and then
you went watch the Mets in the Cups.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Look, it's why there's really one series going on. Right,
there were two series in the first round, the Knicks
and the Sixers and the Nuggets and the Lakers everything else.
They don't even care if the games are on television.
I mean the Candalleers magic is fun, dude. No one
even knows. No one, nobody knows where to know, I know,
not to see it. This would be a true TV
or not TV. No one even cares all these other
(20:51):
even even the Mavericks and the Clippers tonight. Yeah, great
Mavericks Clippers. Yeah, there's two series in the first round.
One is over and one is tomorrow night. Like the
Knicks and the Sixers is now in the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
It becomes a for this series, it's the hey, can
either team win it? No, it's a to two game five.
It's like, yeah, then I don't care.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
But now you look at the Heat who get eliminated,
and you know, so much for Heat culture. He culture,
he got us away NI culture watching Tyler Hero who
had a really bad game tonight, right, he shot six
out of nineteen. He can't stop anybody defensively. And then
I got to watch him in his postgame pres conference
wearing a bucket hat and a wears Waldo's shirt. He
(21:31):
did kind of have a Waldo vibe going on. This
is a guy who's been in the league now for
five years, and it's impossible for me to take him
seriously as potential star. You hear all the stories about
how things are going in Miami back and forth with Tyler.
Here's like, boy, why is this guy not better? He's
been the same player for the last four years. Right,
he's twenty four years old. He's been a twenty point
(21:51):
a game scorer for the last three years. All his
numbers are the same. Like he's consistent. I'll give you
he's consistent. But this guy, you can see the way
he fills it up. He could be a much bigger player.
But when when you see that, you see the way
they talk about him in Miami and and and there's
not as much push up for him to be to
be the face of the franchises. As Jimmy Butler gets
(22:13):
older and Tyler Herro comes in, I see games like
tonight where he doesn't where he doesn't come up big.
And then I just not that it's a big deal
how you dress in the postgame press conference. But still
I'm like, this is what you're wear it out to
meet the media after your team gets eliminated. In five
Now you're getting in the hat guy.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
No no, no, other people have the people and how they
wear their hair.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
No no, no, no, the best, no, no, I don't care about.
But it's the shirt. This is more the shirt you
like the wearers Waldo stripes.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
When Lebron got a Gilligan shirt, Hey, little buddy, he's
got the little bucket hat on you.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Jenjer marya dude.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
That Professor was underutilized. I think they sabotaged him in
episodes that were never shown.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well they never even had him in the credits in
the first two seasons and all the rest they named
the first five and the rest. Oh gee, thanks, So
what are we doing here? We couldn't just say that
Professor and Marianne. We couldn't do that. But like it's
hard for me to take him somewhere. They had to
pay more. I want him, you know, he should be
someone who is a much bigger star. He should be
a much bigger part of the NBA, and he just isn't.
(23:19):
And it's really difficult because, yeah, no, it's not always
about what you wear.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Me.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I look, I still go back to when Lebron James
had that huffy press conference and walked out in the
in the suit and shorts and you really got I'm
gonna show you a man, I am walking out of
this with my with my dressman shorts. Hey, Joson. At
the end of the day, it's just basketball. No, you're right,
it's just it's just basketball.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
What's funny though, is that that line was part of
a long monologue where he actually was saying it's some
really good things.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
But the fact that you could just clip.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
An office and say it's just it's just basketball.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I just like, I go back and watch it every
now and again. I go back and watch it, just
that last ten seconds of that huffy press conference where
he walks the storm right through the guys. Yeah it's shorts.
It's like on a television show when someone has to
walk off. Like in real life, if you're walking away
from somebody, you turn and walk the other way, but
because of the way television is, you have to walk
off past them. So they can turn and look back.
(24:14):
And that's that's just how it like, that's like what Lebron,
I'm gonna walk by everybody instead of just walking off
the podium. I'm gonna say, everybody can see me in
my in my short set suit. But like, I mean,
you know, here's you didn't like the hero. No, like
here's Tyler Hero and you got eliminated. And you have
to understand a little bit and mature a little bit
and get that. Okay, I'm representing the team, I'm representing
(24:35):
my teammates, and I'm out. And it's not that he
said anything awful, but again, it's part of the image
of this guy. We should be taking him more seriously
as an NBA superstar, and it's just hard to It's hard,
I would say, that's blowing things from coming out. There
should be some kind of maturity, some kind of dependency
on Hey, he's a great player, and you still get there,
You still get the the the impression that he and
(24:56):
the Heat are kind of at arm's length with each other.
We like you, we don't love you kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Because of the inconsistency, because he's had games this year
where he's taken over. I mean, you go watch what
the heat were doing, and with Jimmy Butler out there's
somewhere he goes on a heater and it just stays right.
Other times you have a quick burst. You saw it
in the previous game where three pointer, quick layup, cut
to the hoop. It's like all right, he's on and
then just like that it gets derailed. I think with
(25:24):
the demeanor and the exit interview attire. Here, I'll give
him the pass because a you might be on a
flight directly to Cancun.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
The other is the now's you're gonna wear in the plane?
Why not? I'm gonna wear that another plane, okay, all right?
And other folks.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I mean, look, it's become a customary in the US
to wear really ratty sweatpants and flip flops.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Hey, that's that's a style that I brought in, like
like thirty five years ago. When I was a teenager,
I would fly in sweatpants and the sweatshirt. What what
you want to be comfortable? Why would I wear a
suit on a plane? Office Kelsey invented the faith come on, man,
but the idea being that this is just the end
that we knew was coming. So I don't need to
(26:10):
dress it up, nor do I need to dress up.
I'm out.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Like we knew we were gonna lose this series. It
was just a matter of how far we could extend it.
And guess what, they got their ass kicked tonight. So
going up there, if he'd come in in a suit
and tie, or he did the razzle dazzle Richard gear
that little sparkle coat from Chicago, I don't think that's
helping anything.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But let me just let me give you an example
here when when I was at ESPN as a production assistant, Right,
everybody started as a PA and you wanted to get
promoted to be an AP, which meant you would get
to do stories every day. You get to travel and
interview athletes and put together your own stories, and you
had a better you got more money. It was a
promotion everybody wanted. Right, So they don't remember you, Yeah, yeah, right,
(26:54):
I was the best PA and AP they ever had there,
and then asked the only thing they would do is
confirm that you did work. Yeah, that's documented, And I
remember it was when my coordinated producer who they put
somebody in charge of your career when you start there,
they go, okay, you're starting here, and like you have
five new pas start every month, and each CP gets
(27:17):
one of those people and you're in charge of them
while they're a production assistant until they get promoted. And
what that meant is that they kept an eye on
your career. They talked to the producers once a month,
how is Jason doing, How is so and so doing?
Grady does this? He does it? And you met with
your CP once a month and they went over what
your last month was like. They said, okay, hey, here's
what you did good, here's you can work on. Here's
what people are saying about you. And it was great.
(27:38):
It was able to keep your career going. And I
remember when I was close to getting promoted and I
said to my CP, I said, is there like a
secret formula to getting promoted? Is there something? And he
said to me, you know, it's funny you say that,
because when we all get together and we talk about
promoting somebody, this is what we talk about. And they
just use this example because it's back when Lou Holtz
(27:59):
was coaching no when notere Name every year was such
a big deal and Notre Name was winning national championships
in the nineties, and they said, the big thing we
always say is that, is this person ready to get promoted?
Could they pull off booking and conducting an interview for
Sunday Conversation, which was the big thing and always did,
(28:19):
and book the travel and book the talent and go
there and have the shoot come off well, come back,
edit it and get it on air and have it
be a good product. Like that's what they looked at.
And I said, wow, okay, And basically what that is
is that we want to see production assistants go from
being kids in running shoes who were just working hard
and running around all over the place. Too. I got
(28:41):
a little bit more grace under fire, and I'm maturing
a bit and you can give me more responsibility. And
I was like, wow, that's interesting because that's so anti
my personality about not being crazy. So I was like, Okay, great,
I appreciate that, thank you, And that's always stuck with me.
And that's kind of where I think Tyler hero is at.
Is that, dude, do you want to be the kid
in running show or do you want to be somebody
(29:01):
who could be the next big star in the NBA
and be someone that gets the publicity and gets the
respect and the relevance that someone of your talent deserves.
Find a way to be, to be mature, to be
someone that the team can count on you as part
of their future and not have it at arm's length,
and be someone that people can take seriously. That's kind
of how I think about it. It's I get he's
only twenty four. I know I'm saying something. You gotta
(29:22):
go from hey man, go to the club every night too,
and I'm gonna come home and I'm gonna be in
my slippers and my dog is gonna be at my
feet and I'm gonna read the newspaper and smoke a pipe. Now,
I'm not saying you need to do that. I don't
think they want you smoking a pipe. Well, i'd be
like back in when when smoking a pipe was a thing,
like a regular pipe, like when they would do commercials
for pipes and every pipes. Yeah, like that's kind of
where Tyler Hero needs to be. And I think about
(29:44):
that when I think about him and his career, is
like he needs to drop the kid and running shoes
kind of thing and just show a little bit more mature.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Kena did see you've had a very visceral reaction to
the video pull back the curtain here the Fox Sports
Radio TIREC dot Com Studios for monitors, and it was
in our upper right and you just sat back in
your chair.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Win. Huh.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And then we made the obvious where's Waldo and Gilligan jokes? Yeah,
and well, yeah's defense. It's a great captain suit. I
mean he is going fishing after he is.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I mean he can be right out of plane. TNT
can just take that right, that right from the postgame
presser and put it right on the gone fishing, like,
put it right on Lebron's shoulders. Hey, we're going fishing, everybody.
It was pretty good. Exit out bout of Fresca, Exit
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my best friend Mike hard when it's time to change.
My voice is cracking a little bit. I know why
(31:21):
because I spend so much time doing the Marv Albert.
That effort really screwed up the vocal card.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Man, I'm telling you, tell you my mom's got a
h got a cold or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
She sounded like wolf man Jack. I almost wanted to record, Hey, okay,
how you doing that? I'm like, whoa, I said, Mom,
are you smoking heads? She goes, I'd like to you know,
the impressions I've been working on in the car driving
to work. What's that? Are all of the big DJs
now I'm talking like this on the on the on
Serious XM that I listened to when I listen to
(31:51):
and it's like funny because I know certain things that
they will say right away all the time, like that,
I know this guy's gonna say this, This's gonna say this.
There's a lot of curses. There's so many cursing right, No,
guys don't really cur The DJs don't really curse. That's
why I sent it into the head of the music.
If I'm on XM, only I'm cursing. Yeah. No, actually no,
Rich Davis is the only one that curses. No, no,
(32:11):
oh yeah. On Fox Sports Radio, no, no, they don't curse.
They don't curse. They don't say a lot like I have.
I don't listen like late at night or maybe that happens.
But I'm driving in to here the afternoon guys and
and and who are on the air, and I and
I I start working on my impressions of them because
I know them. I know they say the same exact
things like it's it's it's hysterical, and I'm going, boy,
is there ever going to be a way for me
(32:32):
to to make this a thing? I'm trying to work
at angle.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I don't know right now, So you know, it's it's
simmering in the background.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
It's because I get all the big ones, all the
afternoon drive ones, seventies, Channel eighties, hair Metal, hair Nation, Ozzy,
all of them. Sure bone Yeah. Working on Fox Sports
Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen live from
the Tirech dot Com Studios, Dallas is thumping the Clippers
right now now, absolutely thumping them. Has been all Mavericks.
(33:03):
They're throwing alley ups up and down the floor. This
game is ugly. Two and a half to go in
the third quarter, Alex leads the Clippers eighty to fifty six.
We'll have more on this game coming up in a
few minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
But at the home effort, you anticipate no, no, no,
not really, even with the Sparks and Cameron Brink and
everybody there.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Now, yeah, but I expect Loo Kawhi is going to
eventually to oh too soon, too soon? What did you
do there? Too soon? Too soon? But you know, sports
and different leagues always are better when there's an evil empire,
gotta be right, always better as evil empire, And clearly
in the NBA we have not had an evil empire
(33:43):
for a little while, right. The Lakers, as much as
polarizing as Lebron is, they don't win enough to be
an evil empire, right, they don't. They don't. It's hard.
You can't really hate the Warriors. It's hard to hate Steph.
But we did. It's hard. No, I mean, look, you
can no, you can just be realistic about the Warriors
and their fans might not like it, but it's hard
to hate.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
No, but a couple of years ago they got hateable,
not individually, it has a squad because you were tired
of them. Yeah, but it's like when Lebron was making
all his runs. Yeah but no, but it's different. Lebron
was always polar Rode, but he's also there every year.
It's like the Patriots. He don't get tired of seeing.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
There's a difference between being an evil empire just being
tired of seeing a team like, oh, then again, I'm
turning it off.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
No, but it's the Yankees. They were evil because they
were in your face and.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
They won a lot. I'm gonna go watch Silos. I suck.
Nobody cares. I don't care about this game. So but
if you had, if the NBA had an evil empire,
it would work even better than it is now. And
it's hard because you're looking, Okay, who are the teams
can dominate? But I'm telling you the Denver Nuggets have
(34:49):
the potential of being a great evil empire now right
because there because dude dresses like stuck stopping because he's
a super villain. That's the best part. I mean, come
on good night, Agnes never get older? Uh No, because
they haven't. They have this optic of being unlikable. Right.
You have Michael Malone who always has been, hey, why
(35:11):
don't we get more respect? And he's tried to tone
that down a little bit, but it doesn't matter. You know,
he walks around going you know, I saw I watch
a TV show this morning and sixty eight percent of
the conversation was about the Lakers, eighteen percent was about us,
and the rest is about the off day for the Knicks.
We are not getting the respects. So they have this
this optic that they're easy to not like and that
(35:34):
they're so into their own success. Right, and why are
you not celebrating our success like you should? Like you?
Why is no one celebrating us in our excellence like
you celebrate other teams? Right? Malone can be very petty.
Jokic is a very is a is a superstar that
he doesn't say anything. You see his excellence on the court,
(35:55):
but it's really hard. He doesn't give you the big
highlights that you want from other players. You can see
what kind of play he is. He is just one
play from early this Lakers series where they were on
a fast break and he threw a bounce pass for
a layup through three people. That was just, Oh my god,
you gotta be kidding me. So his excellence is really
hard for the average fan to kind of understand. He
(36:16):
also grew from despicable he did you have that well?
And you add and his brothers who want to get
in fights again hateable, But yeah, discuss I mean, still
part of the whole thing because you don't because they're
not as personable, and because the coach is petty, and
and they seem into their own success. Yeah, they're easy
to kind of say, ah, you know what, I just
(36:37):
don't like them, and it would be great for the sport.
They should embrace that. They should embrace it. Hey, hey,
I don't care if you don't like me and you
like Lebron James Moore, We're gonna win the championship anyway.
Like they really have that evil empire or about them.
If they win again and they go into next year
and Malona's at press conferences and the parade saying you
still don't respect us as much as we could, and
(36:57):
Yoki just disappearing, you don't hear from it all No,
it's it's actually a team that it's going to be
pretty easy to get behind them being the evil Empire,
they're the Spurs. No, they're very more than the Spurs.
They're more interested than the Spurs. Well, but Malone is Popovich.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
If you're gonna go down that road, right of, I'm
gonna give you some short answers and gotta be a jerk.
But it's you know, it's a joke just between us, right,
but the viewer isn't in on the joke.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
And Michael Malone, you know, it's Mike.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
You think about his his whining or looking and trying
to get some attention for the squad. I don't know,
I just kind of tune him out. Jamal Murray seems likable.
I mean he flexed on Lebron after Donkey on him.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
That was kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Michael Porter's got too many brothers in jail or you know,
a lot every day there's a day. I mean, boy again,
I asked it before that was his last series. Like
that's just a lot of stuff swirling around. Man, I'm
gonna concentrate and play basketball, but you know, easy to
overcome some stuff. So like there's a good story of
you know, he battled through it inies and here he
(38:00):
is fulfilling some of that promise. But there's there's nothing
dislikeable unless you hate.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Unless you hate people that go to the mountains. They
really know you hate people that go to the mountains
to ski. I don't ski, but I don't hold that. No, No,
they do in your neighborhood. Hurt you they went to
the mountains to ski. No, my senior years ski trip
was awesome. I didn't ski for five minutes, but the
ski trip was awesome. Whenever a team seems they're more
into their success, because they are. They seem very into
(38:30):
their own success, and it's a it's an optic of
you should be more into our success as well, and
things kind of flow from there. Again, it's not going
to be difficult for them to suddenly be oh, we're
the evil Empire.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Well if they all show up blinged out at the
when they get their next hunk of metal, they throw
it back there at silver saying and we need a
bigger one because we're better.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I mean, I don't know. We got another big story
out of the NBA. Next right here, Fox
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