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Speaker 3 (00:48):
Should be Well.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Here we are at halftime of a winner, go home
game for the Clippers, and it was a big lead
for the Mavericks, but without Kawhi Leonard, Clippers clawback into
it by the game at halftime at fifty two, Paul
George has fourteen to lead the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Meanwhile, Luca with eighteen for the Mavericks, and you know, Look,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Look, the second half is still to come, Ryan, but
I'm surprised this is even a game. I thought this
is gonna be one of those pack it up Mavericks
will be up by twenty at some point in the
around halftime and they're just gonna cruise the victory in
this game.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
You know, by seeing what the Clippers did in the
last game, it didn't look feasible, you know, and it
looked like, oh man, the same old story is there.
But it's a very talented group, man. And here's the reality.
The keys with the Clippers are they got to score.
They need Paul George and James Hard and they both
have to have great games. And you almost roll dice. Okay,
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Paul George is talented, He's scoring at a high clip.
And then you know sometimes it's you know, Harden goes off,
but you having that complete game for those two have
to work at the same time. They cannot have one
without the other or else it's just not going to work.
And that's just kind of why suffer for the Clippers
to get over that edge. And obviously Kawhi Leonard's injury
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and you know him being out that's just kind of
something unfortunately expected. So is the talent there, But you know,
maybe it's it's just really just a question of age
and and just timing.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So there it is, fifty two fifty two, still a
half to go, maybe Lucas moving on to the second
round of the playoffs, or quite potentially it is the
end of the season for the Clippers. No, he is, okay,
so let's do a little Well, first of all, before
you in this, I have to make sure we're still friends.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I have to make sure we're friends and we can
go on and or we have to fight.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So you're you're down with my knicks are going to
the NBA finals, right, like? You completely agree with that
after what we saw in.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
The first round, you're down with I mean, can you
just be happy to have had a great year? And yes,
and like any happy enjoy that. You don't need to
in the finals. Just just take it for what it is.
That's such a New Yorker dude, of course, but you kidding,
I'm not one side.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
If you heard my go New York, go New York coach,
Go New York, go New York co Come on, man,
this is.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The Hey, this is the year. It's wide open.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Jalen Brunson is the best player in the history of
the game. We are rolling, man, this is an NB weekend.
We're making it to the finals this year. Porzingis is hurt,
the Celtics aren't unbeatable. It's the Eastern Conference. You gotta
get on board with this, man. You gotta get on
board with the Knicks go to the final.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I will give you that. Milwaukee's out, Porzingis is hurt,
and Boston has been very, very up and down.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I'll give you that. If if there's a year, this
is the year.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna get crazy like
you got say this is the year.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
But if this if there was a year, this would
be the year.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
This is the year.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Let me go back to what you just said. I'm
not gonna say this is the year, but if this
is the year, this would be the year that was that.
You don't get that analysis from just anywhere, folks.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Ryan Hollins right there.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Jason, you understand exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
If there was a year, it would be this year.
But I'm not saying it's this year. But if it
was a year, it would be.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
The Celtics in four.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Yeah, yeah, Porzigis is out and you know he's not
gonna get boomed, you know, because he's not gonna be
there to play like this is there and then Milwaukee's out.
How often are you gonna get day missing games and
yat is out, you know, and then it be and
then it be it's hurt too.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You gotta hurt it, bead.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, I mean, come on, man, this is this is it, man,
this is this is Go New York, Go New York.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Go man.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We're gonna beat the Pacers, We're gonna beat the Celtics,
and then we're gonna they're gonna sweep the Nuggets in
the finals. And suddenly it's, oh my goodness, people are
gonna have to give the NIXT credit because nobody wants
to give the NIXT credit across the country.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Brunson's too small, He's this season. I don't like loudmouth
nick fans like Jason Smith, which I completely get.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I completely get that part of it. But eventually you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Gotta start realizing, hey man, the Knicks are a fun
team to watch. They work hard, they claw for every
single basket. They don't give up no matter what the
situation is, and they got guys that can score that.
You're saying, how the hell are three guys from Villanova
doing this right? How the hell Jalen Brunson, who was
not fast and not big, how is he scoring forty
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some out of game? How did Dante, DiVincenzo and Josh
Hart turn into the next two other members of a
big three? Like this is just insane what we're seeing
from the Knicks succeeding like this with the with these guys.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
You know what, it's fun. And you're a lot older
than me and.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Saying a lot, not a lot.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Not it's at least twenty years. They're different a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Now, how many years? How old are you? Let me
still me look you up on Twitter? Thirty nine?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, okay, I am hang on here three for I
am fourteen years older than you.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Okay, all right, So I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
More like, I'm more like the older brother than you
needed growing up that you didn't have because they just
gave everything to you because you were seven feet tall,
and you did somebody who was five nine to really
tell you what the world was like, and you didn't
have me.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You're definitely older brother. I'll give you that. Okay, fair
fair fair, fair fair, fairfair fair.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
When's the last time you remember three college teammates winning.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
A playoff series? When and you know, like like like
give credit.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
They're probably like, all right, Devincenzo got hot in the
championship and ends up jumping into the first round. Josh
Hart was a guy you probably looked at as a
second rounder.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Brunson had to win to get to that spot.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Like these aren't like the Duke Trios or like a
North Carolina you know, Jameson And like, when's the last
time you were like I love this, dude, I love
this for the game of basketball Villanova.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
When is the last time that this ever happened teammates?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It makes me think that I want to interview Jay
Wright and go, dude, you underachieved, but I won two titles.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, but you should have won more. You should have
won Come on, man, I think you meiled it in
those couple of years you needed. You need a.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Big three from Chris Jenkins to win one title that
where it was just a crazy pass from Arcadiacao, and
you should have won more with these guys.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Man, Look, look how great distey these guys are gonna
carry the next of the finals. Hey, we won two titles.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Hey, sorry to cut you off. You just made me
do something. Should the Lakers go after Jay Wright?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
No, wait a minute, now, wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Those our guys aren't going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Go after Jay Wright if you want, but he's not
getting any of the Villanova guys. You can have Villanova
guys now, that's Ryan. You can have Villanova guys now
coming out of the league now, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
He can't have our guys. No where, no, no no way.
Speaker 9 (07:45):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We paid those these things. Is like for the next
couple of years. These guys are locked up. They got paid.
Everything is got people.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
What I'm saying, could Jay write coach the Lakers and
create magic?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Teddy did Villanova? Could he do that? Is that a
name on the list here? Okay? I asked him.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Is Jay right a guy that can walk in the
locker room and Lebron and a D would say, Hey,
whatever you say, let let's do you gotta visual.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
K coach K did USA basketball? He did did that?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah? Okay, Well, well that's Mike Krzyzewski. That's Mike. This
is all right.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
JA may be better than of late of late work
current basketball.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Sure it's better.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
No, he might be know he's won one more recently. Look,
it was a while to win. But real, I mean
for Lebron, Like, who's gonna come in there. Let Lebron
is gonna say, yeah, I'm not the real head coach.
I I listen, he's He hasn't done that. No matter
who the head coach was, whether it was Spolster or
Mike Brown or David blythe that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It doesn't matter who it was. But yeah, yeah, I
got no.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
One's coming, and that's gonna get Lebron and a D
to buy it. At least before it was Hey, all right,
if you get Lebron, you gotta work on him. No, No,
you got Lebron and a D clutch sports and are together.
I mean, who's coming, and they're gonna say, yeah, we
gotta go actally. We're not just gonna do our thing
and what we think is good. We're gonna go out there,
we're gonna we're gonna execute what coach says.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
There's nobody out there.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
With all due respect, when I look at the Lakers,
I don't always pin it on Lebron. It is what
it is. You don't put it on a D. It
is what it is. You know who a D is.
Shout out to a D. I'm a big eighty fan.
That roster has to fit. I'm not gonna make it
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about d Low, not gonna make it about Torian Prince.
But in my opinion, the roster doesn't fit. It's too random,
it's too all over the place. Normally, when you think
of teams, just see identities. Okay, you talked about your Knicks.
They've created a culture. Tim's is gonna play as guys
a lot of minutes. They're tough, they're tough, they're they
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they're hard nos. They go and rebound and they play
together and they're villanova guys.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Right, it's it's an identity.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
You know what you're gonna play against when you play
the next they they play two shot blockers. Okay, you
know what you're getting from the Knicks. Okay, you know
what you got from Golden State. Even though they didn't
do well this year, it was just age caught up.
You know what you got. When you look at the
Lakers roster, it was like, what's this identity here? And
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I think Darvinham wanted this. This tough, rugged identity, and
it didn't work. The personnel wasn't there. But to me,
the roster construction is all over the place, and it's
tough to say, hey, this is what we do.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You know, this is what we want.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Out of our bigs, this is what we want out
of our wings, this is what we want. It's whether
it's scoring, whether it's three and D guys, it's the
culture and that the conflict.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And you heard Dan talk about it earlier.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
We had them on and said, hey, all of a sudden,
Victorian Prince's playing, and then these other guys are playing,
and then next thing you know, d Lo's hop back
in and Hotchie Murra's back in play minutes and it
was all over the place and you didn't know who
was gonna play it random randomness in people's minds that
I know from being in the locker room. If a
guy misses an assignment defensively, he ain't playing. If a
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guy is you know, not doing the things, ask to
the coaching staff, he has free raid, free raiing to
bench those guys or maybe they won't be playing. But
at the end of the day, I think consistency from
that roster is gonna help out of Lebron James and
Anthony Davis, and you get it. And to me, when
you see great coaching, you see great roster construction, you
know what you start to get.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You saw in Houston this year. It's the next man mentality.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
When one man goes down, somebody else steps in and
they keep rolling. We saw from the San Antonio Spurs
for years. We saw it and in all the great teams,
man is that that next man type mentality is there?
And you saw all kind of Lakers all over the place.
Because it was different rosters, different type of players, different system.
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It just it just didn't work. With all due respect
by it. I look more at that the way the
roster was put together. Not to say there are bad players,
but there were just two different a type of player.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
All right, So let me ask you this. Well, we'll
play a little mister fix it with you right now.
What's the biggest thing if you were in charge of
the Lakers, you run. If I made you the head
coach and they interviewed, and I sid, boy, this is
Ryan Hollins here. He already he looks great. I mean
he wears those great powder blue UCLA sweatsuits. He fits
right into our culture. If this was okay, all right, Ryan,
you're what's the biggest thing you would do going into
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next year for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
What's the biggest thing you could do that would fix
this team.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I get on the same page with the GM and
say what direction or are we gonna go into for
Lebron James. Obviously, I try to get him in Anthony Davis'
easy looks. I try to be able to minimize his
minutes and free agency. I really get aggressive with a guy.
And there are players in this league that can play
in different modes. When you play alongside Lebron James, you
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got to be able to play on and off the
basketball and be effective. So I'm looking for guys who
can do that at supporting third and it doesn't even
have to be a star. There are a lot of
guys who are in that fit that can play that role.
And then I get guys that fit in and they
defend and they hit open.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Threes and space the floor.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
And that's why I get the mindset of getting a
Torrium Prince or somebody like that. And then first and foremost,
also I get a rim protector. I get somebody with
the experience, somebody who can play minutes, maybe even a
position defender, because the one thing I really want to
be able to do is get someone that consistently can
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keep Anthony Davis away from playing the center position, because
now Anthony Davis is free to run into rebound block
shots and his body doesn't end up getting beat up.
So I really construct my roster first and foremost around
Lebron and Ad because those guys aren't going anywhere. And
then I fell in with the culture. Hey are we
going to be you know the Pacers? Are we going
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to be a shooting team that spreads you out and
runs the floor, and space is the floor where we're
gonna be a tough hard on those team that's gonna
beat you on the defensive end. But I pick an
identity and I roll with that, and I compliment my stars.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I'll give you the job right now. For that, that's
all you needed. I give it to you.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I'd say, here, go go down to human resources, fill
out the paperwork, and we'll get you going.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Oh goodness, let's tell you man, there you go. Man,
look at that, mister fixed.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So coming up, we'll get you to try to fix
the bucks and the sixers too, how about that?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Or you know you're not going with that, you don't
want to fix.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
The listen, that is not my job. Where these are
all hypotheticals. It's a reason that I'm sitting right here. Okay,
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
You're hiding yourself for that with a handkerchief going oh
that was that took a lot out of me.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Oh god, no, And I got all respect for for
Darvin and those guys that are doing the work.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
We we we sit here run our mouth about things that.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Sometimes we know about, some things sometimes we don't know about.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So we'll have that coming up as well.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But straight ahead, we had some big NFL news today,
some wide receivers starting to come off the board and
free agency, including a former superstar.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Is he still a superstar? Does he have anything left?
That's next? Right here?
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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Ryan Hollins
in from Mike Harmon. Update from the NBA. It has
been all Mavericks since the break. A fifty two to
fifty two game now sixty three fifty four in the
hands of the Mavericks. They started the third quarter on
an eleven two run to take a nine point lead.
Still at least still a lot of basketball left eight
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and a half to go. Clippers looking to extend this
to a game seven, Maverick's looking to move on to
the second round of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
We'll have more NBA on the way, but joining.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Us now on the hotline. He is a long time
friend of the show. He has a long time NFL insider.
He is a very good NFL insider. He is a
voter for the haul of very good. It is Jason
Cole Jake all what's happening?
Speaker 9 (16:42):
But how are you You know.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
You didn't resid. I'm a little upset.
Speaker 9 (16:48):
Because you got it's fame.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I do this to a big gug every week because
I keep saying only very good players are getting with
the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
Fame, they are payment.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So I called the Hall a very good voter. He
loves it, he pretends he does.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
But the word of same, they are famous. They are
great players for a couple of exceptions.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Okay, no, not with all the Cowboys players you've been
letting in the last few years.
Speaker 9 (17:21):
And that hurts because it's true.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I was a little upset today because you got into
it with with somebody on Twitter a little bit about
how about brock Purty's level of play? And I quote
tweeted you and helped you out and I said, brock
Purty is a very good quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
And I got nothing from you on.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Because I knew where it was going to go. I
knew where it was going to go. I'm not I'm
not indulging this insanity. It's all fame anyways. Harmonake is
he's still doing like victory lapse after the Bearers, Like
he doesn't show up because he's got a taught everybody
about the Bears draft. Is that what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
No, he was just done with me after after the
next game last night, Mike, go New York, Go New York,
Go go New York. Guse he needed a night off
after that. But I can understand that.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
Okay, Yeah, I thought he was like, you know, like
on Manhattan Beach screaming.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Now he just took the night off like the White
Sox Jako.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
All right, so hey, so uh let's start here because
now we're starting to see some wide receivers the last
twenty four hours joined teams that are very wide receiver needy.
You know, I look at Odell going to the Dolphins
and I go, we are clearly now on the Mike
Tyson at the end after Evander Holyfield, Like oh what if?
What it's like, No, he's done. He's just a name.
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He's not gonna catch a lot of passes.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Great, you know that the Dolphins don't have a really
good number three receiver. They have two studs as they're
one and twos. But I look at Odell and I go,
you know, the guy's still a name, He's still gonna
draw that. But as far as on the field, it's like,
you know what you're getting at this point, don't you.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Yeah, you're getting like eighty five. I mean, his numbers
actually fairly, you know, like efficient last year average sixth
near the catch, you know, on thirty five catches. That's okay,
But you were expecting so much more from him, getting
to work with Lamar Jackson, upgrade that receiver unit, do
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a lot of things to help that passing game, and
it never happened. And you know, I was going to
take this kind of cheap shot at OBJ and say again,
when was the last time it was relevant? But then
I thought about it. It's like he was damn good
in that Super Bowl, right, He was really damn good
until the kneepop, and you just kind of wonder, is
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there going to be some luck here where Okay, you've
got you know, you've got the two great receivers there
starting with Hill, is he going to get so much
one on one coverage? And is it another year removed
from that knee, from that knee injury where it finally
really starts to come back because he is thirty one
years old and maybe there's some magic there. It's not
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a bad gamble for the Dolphins. I Mean, the only
thing that I see in this one is is he
going to get Is he going to get along in
that receiver room? Is he going to be okay being
the number three guy? Is he going to be okay
with having to defer so much to the top two guys.
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That's the only question I have about OBJ. But at
this point in time, he's probably got to stuck it
up and say, Look, if I'm ever going to keep
playing and make them, you know, eight ten million dollars
a year doing this, I got to be a good
teammate at least because if I'm a bad teammate, you know,
Hunter renfrows right around the corner, they can go find
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somebody else. Right.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Is there a team in your mind that has done
the best job so far at just addressing their off
season needs that makes you feel comfortable about them turning
the torner or being competitive this next year? Somebody we
should be looking out for. We talked we talked earlier
in the show about you know, in the NFL, you
can have that type of success, right away from from
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just in the off season, in the draft, you can
dress a lot, but there's somebody that stands out to you.
You talk about the Bears just right now, is there's
somebody that stands out that you say, man, look out
for them.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
They just got better.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Clearly, you're not high on OBJ, You're not all in okay,
You're trying to be kind and nice, But is there
somebody you're in on.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
I know I'm okay with OBJ, but you knows, I
don't want to overstate it, like I don't think it's
just an amazing move. I think the one thing about
this offseason, when you look at this free agent class,
there weren't a lot of great players, and a lot
of guys got got a lot of guaranteed money and
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a lot of impact, you know, And and look, I
never say, you know, I don't want guys to get paid.
I want guys to get paid to make as much
money as they possibly can. But the way free agency
is working right now is you're not getting the big
stars going to market that often. So when you say
that there are a bunch of teams that address their need,
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you know, if anybody really supremely addressed their need and
helped themselves out and made their contender. I don't think
this offseason changed a lot. I really don't. I think
that the teams that were good were still pretty good.
Miami went backward a little bit because, you know, especially
with the loss of Wilkins, but I never would have
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given Wilkins the contract that he got, so I understand
why he left and why they let him go. So
to me, the teams that were really smart about this
were the ones that didn't play in the free agency game,
that you know, work the draft, work the lower end,
and the ones that are now picked up some players
at the tail end of free agency. So that's how
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kind of I view this. I don't think that the
league is substantially different with the moves this offseason. I
would say I think Pittsburgh at least like cleansed their
quarterback room the problem that they had. I don't know
that they've really fixed it, but they have two guys
who are better guys, and they have a better situation.
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And I think that they've really drastically improved their offensive line,
which has been a real sore point for the last
four years. So between those two things, they're going to
be functional on offense. So if you're talking about a
team that really improved themselves, the Steelers are right at
the top of that. But I'm just saying that they
made themselves functional because the last two years, like they
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were dreadful, right, Like they're just awful, but they got
rid ticket. They got a couple of candidates at quarterback.
If they can settle that, if either Wilson or Fields
can figure it out, or both of them, if everything's great,
then they are much more serious contender because that defense
is everything for them.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, especially with what we heard yesterday with Jalen Warren
on the podcast saying that hey, they're toying with the
idea of putting Justin Fields on kick returns.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
There are there are occasionally some bizarre things that happen,
like going, can you just figure out if he's a quarterback?
You know, like we are we doing the Terrell Pryor
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thing with him already, where we're like just junking the
idea of him being a quarterback full time. Mean, that's
such a bad idea because he's so freaking talented. I mean, look,
he's got a lot of work to do to ever
figure it out. And but I always say with with him,
like he's the kind of guy who you could have
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a rich gan and type of career arc where he
gets to be twenty eight or twenty nine, figures it
all out, and his best years are you know, the
tail half of his career that really could be just
in fields.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
But Hunter Turner, what that's an idea that Jets normally have.
This is a Steelers talking about this, Well, I think.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
The Jets might line up. I think I line up
Aaron Rodgers as you know, free safety or something like that.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
This year.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Hey, no restrictions for Aaron Rodgers at OTAs. That was
the news today. Dude, We're ready to roll, man. Our
defense is great. We got the reponds on offense. Look Out,
I look out.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
I even said he's going to go into another darkness
retreat and do you know, you know some metaphysical activity
that your signats are there and go. Yeah. I was
feeling really good about this until now That's really what
real it was. You're you're that's how this offseason is
gonna go. You're like, I'm riding high. Go here, Jets, Jets, Jets,
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gonna get my fireman head helmet on. By the way,
shouldn't there be like fireman ed paraphernalia at this point
in time, Like they should be selling like jerseys for
firemen aad.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Oh, you just gotta go on Etsy. You gotta go
where you don't have to worry about paying any money
for anything. It's gotta go to Etsy.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
That's where you go.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
I can get the fireman head stuff on that. Okay,
so we're gonna all get that cheer for Aaron Rodgers.
But again in June when they're done, like right around
June fourteenth, you're gonna hear the story about him going
into a darkness retreat and it won't be in southern
Oregon this time. It's gonna be like Olivia, right, And
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is he gonna make it back through customs? Will he? Like?
Is he gonna? Is he gonna get arrested?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
You know?
Speaker 9 (26:52):
Is he gonna get arrested? What's gonna happen here? Like
it's gonna throw your whole off season off. And then
there's gonna be like an Aaron Aaron Rogers watch like
you're gonna have don Van Matter from ESPN traveling the
world looking for Aaron Rodgers. Cheth Wickersham will be you know,
writing something about the you know, Woody Johnson freaking out.
(27:13):
It's gonna it's all gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
If here's a big tree, we're gonna go inside. We're
gonna light it up and see if Aaron Rodgers is inside.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Here we go. Let's let oh he's not there. Let's
keep going. Let's keep moving.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Yeah, like Aaron Rodgers or Francisco Franco, like he's like,
this is the search. We're not sure who we're going
to find. Okay, go ahead. That's what That's what it
is to be a jet stamp. It is It is
waiting to be tortured. Yes, it is waiting. You think
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it's all good, and then all of a sudden and
you think everything is great, and then bel Chick shows
up scrawled in crayon his resignation letter. That is what happens, right,
it's all good. And then you take Browning Nagel. Everything
is great, everything is going great, and then you know,
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the bottom just falls out, right, like just something happens.
You know. Herm Edwards starts talking about, you know, the
point of the game, you know, like all that kind
of stuff. You play to win, but this is what
I had, But you play to be the Jets. You
play to be the Jets, and you're never settled. It's
always nerrosed, Okay. And you hope you just hold you pray,
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you pray and hope that there will be a Hall
of very Good sometime because one jet might make it
to that.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Command will be there.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
For Sauce Gardener going in the Hall of Fame as
a jet in eighteen years.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
It is all a very Sauce Gardener. That's all a
very good South. There you go, Yeah, here you go.
It all comes, it all comes right back at you.
Tock it up. Baby.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
He's at Jason Cole sixty two. Ja Cole is always
bunny appreciated.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Man.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
We'll talk to you, yeah, Ryan. That's every week.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
That's our visit every week, which a little bit every
week right there.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
That's it. That's how it goes. Yeah, the Marlin's on
that train there.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
They have already pulled the plug and are looking forward
to twenty twenty five. I mean they are nine and
twenty four. They're barely out of the white Sox. Yeah
we're even the white flag. But it's only May. Doesn't matter,
not even Memorial Day. We're gonna make trades we're gonna
do it. Oh sure, yeah, he's gone your rob nn Yeah,
gonna get rid of him too, all those all those guys,
Gary Sheffield's gonna be on the move everybody.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Uh but coming up next.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You know it works so well, Ryan Hollins is able
to fix the Lakers and give.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
His off season plan. You got another couple of teams
and your host to here.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
You want to fix and left the playoffs what they
should do for next year, whether it's embiid or Giannis or.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Something like that.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
And you ready whatever you got brother to roll.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
All right, here he is Ryan Hollins. He has his
Laker head coach audition.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Now he can audition to take over for Nick Nurse
and potentially Doc Rivers. Although if you do take over
for Nick Nurse, you have to realize, after the end
of every game, you have to complain about the officiating.
All right, So you do take out that's your.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Number one thing.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
It's coming up next, right here, Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins
in for Harmon.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
This.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
All right, here's a bedtime story, Go New York co,
New York Coat, Go New York, New York Coat.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Good night. That's the best bedtime story you ever Ryan Allins.
All right, So here we are, fourth.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Quarter, just underway in Dallas, and Mavericks are eleven minutes
away from ending this series. They lead the Clippers ninety
to seventy two. They outscored the Clippers thirty five twenty
in the third quarter. They picked up where they left
off here eighteen point lead with eleven minutes left to go.
We'll have more in this game coming up in a
few minutes.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
But finish.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Oh yeah, I got them. I did have to finish
my big Mac. I mean that's just you know, it's
a big thing. And yes it is true. I did.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I did just finish my big Mac. I had my
cookies left to go, but I did just finish my bid.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
You didn't even give me one.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
No, sorry, Mary Mac, I'm sorry. Okay, you know what,
I'll buy McDonald's for you next.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Week when I come in. How's that so happen? That good?
Right here?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You go?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
All right, there we go. See I'm a man of
the people, Ryan, how old I'll buy McDonald's for people?
Why not.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
You never bought McDonald's for me.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I'll buy McDonald's. I'll buy McDonald's for you too. I
love buying McDonald's for people.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
He says that now that you live in Houston.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I'm like, how many mornings does he come in and
enjoy McDonald's in the hundreds?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, But you're coming back to La soon, right, You're
coming back to right, aren't you.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Gosh, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Could be coaching the Clippers in twelve minutes.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Oh no, no, no, you and Doc Rivers could be coaching
the Lakers in twelve minutes. Oh all right, So let's
do this right. You fix the Lakers earlier this south.
If I gave you your job interview to take over
for Darvin hand, you told me what you do to
fix the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Let's start here. What would you do now for the
seventy six ers? You know last night after they lost.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Look, it may be just as simple as hey, Tobias
Harris's contract is up.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You can go get that one missing piece.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Because clearly there were big strides this year and Beid
is still embiid Max. He has turned into the number two.
You've been looking for for you know, the last six
seven years and all the different iterations with Simmons and
hard and you know, as even though they went out
in the first round, looking Bead was hurt, he was
playing on one leg. I think things look really good
for Philadelphia. I think they just need you need that
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one other big impact guy and that could be an
easy summer of shopping for the Sixers.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Or am I wrong and they need other stuff? What
do you think?
Speaker 5 (32:46):
No, you're right about that. Hey, I like Tobias Harris.
I think you made me need more of a team
friendly contract there. See if you can work something out.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I really like the moves when they moved hard.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
And you know a lot of times you think there
ends up being a big void when you lose a star.
And I thought Nicholas Batoum was excellent. This is some
of the best basketball we've seen from him in a
long time. And I think you have a star in
Tarvey's Maxie. So I think he gets someone to compliment Maxie.
Hey obviously shooting around the perimeter, a veteran voice that
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can back him up and kind of help him get
where he needs to go, kind of like Hey, Derrick
Rose brought in, and the idea was for Derrick Rose
to kind of mentor Jon Morant. Unfortunately, jahe ends up
being injured there, but someone in that position that can
kind of help MAXI get where he needs to go.
And for Embiid, I think the goal is he's so talented,
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someone to get easy buckets for Embiid, you know, like
you sell TJ McConnell. Okay, see the things he does
over in Indiana. You get someone that gets easy buckets
for those stars. Now they don't have to work as hard.
You keep Embiid from getting injured. And I think those
are kind of the role that if I'm Philadelphia, I go.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I really love Nick Nurse.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
I thought he did an excellent job where I thought
that Philly defended. But at the end of the day,
they're very em Beid centric. And I want to say
also to throw out you may assume he misses, you know,
twenty to thirty games in the season, so within saying that, hey,
do you have a formidable backup? And I know that
their front office kind of went after that with Andre
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Drummond before, but going to get a guy who can
step in and where you don't miss a beat with
with you know, with the big fellow missing games, And
I think that's just kind of a part of it.
I think LA knows that strategies that they have to
take over with, you know, with Anthony Davis, expect him
to miss miss some time. Hey look at the Los
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Angeles Clippers. You know, they're very equipped to say, hey,
Kawhi Leonard is going to be out. That's something we
see very common with them. So I think it's that
same mindset. When you have a great player, you gotta
roll the dice. You're not moving on from him ever
or anytime soon. So you got to make sure that
you have your strength in numbers, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
So if that's how you fix the Sixers, what about
the Bucks? Do you bring back Doc Rivers? Do you
bring back Damian Lillard? Do you bring back both of him?
One of them, none of them?
Speaker 5 (35:13):
What do you do you have to if you're Milwaukee,
you're not gonna go out and make any mistake in
free agency and get those you know, get those type
of players. It's hard too. So you know, you got
Damian Lillard, you build around them, and I think at
the end of the day, you have energy, you have youth,
and you get someone who Lillard and we saw him
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doing a great job with Anthony Simons and those guys
over with the Blazers. You get someone who can kind
of learn from Lillard. You know, a younger player, maybe
a little inconsistent, trying to get over the edge, and
someone who can learn. And you saw kind of Malik
Monk take jumps over in Sacramento and he kind of
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came into his own under Mike Brown. But maybe a
guy like that in that realm that has the potential
to score, has a lot to his game, but we
haven't seen the consistency because by watching a lizard, by
coming up under him, that could be that next step.
So you need that fiery six man. If I'm the
Milwaukee Bucks, and I think for them, man, they need culture,
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they need a training tamp camp together, they need they
need time, and you got to figure out something because
it's the second year in a row where you need
a Giannis ont to the coupo and he hasn't been healthy.
That is a concern that you're gonna have to think about.
And obviously for Yiannis, you know, maybe making those plays
that keep him away from the basket rather than crashing
to the rim because what happens is guess what you
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end up hit with him missing time, and that's something
that nobody wants to see.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Maybe, maybe maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Maybe instead of being head coach and one of the
you should just be a consultant and you know, the
teams can call and you can just consult.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
For them with what they should do. Listen, I love
what I do with the Rockets. I'm not doing.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Don't think about it.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
If the Bucks called, hey, we like what you heard,
We want you to consult with us, and they paid
you in free tracksuits.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
The track suits would be extremely a pilling. You could
be extremely a pilly. Now you didn't say tracksuits. You
know you said track suits earlier. But mine what other places?
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You know?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I know I had you in tracksuits? I had you
a track susitod you see that Nuggets tracksuit?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I told them the draft Jokis say he gave me
that tracksuit. It was awesome. Look what to work for?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Exit out about of Fresco, Ryan at the Ryan Hollinds,
Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins in for Mike Harmon. Coming up next,
we get into without a doubt, what is the most
bizarre NBA story the last twenty four hours