May 7, 2024 • 53 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon explain why not all Playoff Game 1's are created equal. And NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the show to recap the best moments from the Tom Brady Roast. And the guys recap the Knicks BIG Game 1 win over the Pacers!
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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seconds to go Nicks Pacers Game one. Dante DiVincenzo with
a three to give the Knicks a three point lead.
Madison Square garden erupted. Even Steve Cohen was standing going nuts.
But Pascal Siakam has considered as in the meantime gone
in four a layup to cut the lead to one
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one to eighteen one seventeen Knicks to the lead over Indiana,
And now I think they're gonna look at this play
that just happened. Uh. They have been trying to deny
the inbounds to Jalen Brunson for the last couple of
minutes in their two minute defense, and it looked like
Brunson may have just lost the handle and the ball
goes out of bounds. Not sure if it went off
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of Haliburton waiting to see.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Looks like it might have gone office. It looks like
it went office foot. So they're going to look at it.
Depending on what kind of angle they have, this is
either going to go back to the Knicks or the
Pacers will have a chance to take the lead with
about twenty six seconds left to go. Look, this game
has been so much fun, all right. Every time it
looked like the Pacers were gonna put the Knicks away,
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the Knicks find a way to get back. The Knicks
are exhausted, they're playing with five guys. I mean they
put their they put their backups in. You know, you've
got a little bit of Mitchell Robinson, a little bit
of Deuce McBride for a couple of minutes in the
first half, the lead evaporated and there's been almost no
changes ever since. Brunston came out for about eight seconds
at the end of the third quarter. But the Knicks
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are trying to desperately hang on with five guys. The Pacers,
they've been trying to run all over New York tonight
and keep them running across the floor, the running double
triple screens regularly on offense, and the Pacers defensively. Clearly
have the right game plan for the Knicks. But every
time you think you kill the Knicks, they just know
you are not. We are getting up. It's like Michael
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Myers or Jason at the end. Nope, I'm gonna get
back up. But I just chopped your head off and
your arm. Nope, gonna get back up. That to this
game has been This game has been so much fun,
just a flesh wound.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Over the last three what forty five it's like a
fourteen to eight Nick scoring advantage, fast paced.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
It really comes to get you when you look at
the schedule going ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You don't get a lot of days off in this round,
and you do actually have back to backs next Sunday
and Monday.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I know it's insane.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
That's not looking good for the Nick.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
However, if you were to tell me that Robinson and
McBride each played at least ten minutes.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I would have called you a lot. Yeah, yeah, I'm no,
that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Like you look at the box and I was like, wait,
he was out there for ten minutes. No, it couldn't
have been. But yeah, a total of three points, one
of them coming from precious Atua off the bench. He
has four minutes play. That's a thank for Thibodeau.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
He's actually played well, but now somehow he's not in
the rotation. Like I only trust guys from Villanova and
Og and Hertenstein.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The only guys I trust. That's it. Everybody else is
coming off the floor. So they gave the ball back
to the Knicks with twenty seconds left to go, and
they retained possession balls out of bounds with about eighteen
seconds left to go. So there'll be a timeout on
the floor here while they check and see who the
ball goes out of bounds.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
You know, none of this matters.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
What any know that if it matters. Tom Brady got
roasted man. Tom Brady got roasted in It was awesome.
We will get to Tom Brady a billion. But this
is the last few seconds of the Knicks game here,
and I think this is gonna go.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Oh that's tough to see.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
To Brunson, well means he's sing, he's standing, so it
doesn't matter he's out of bounds if he's If he's
standing out of bounds, it's out of bounds. So I
think what they're looking at to see if Brunson was
in the air. Because Brunson tried to throw the ball,
why do.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
They give it to the Pacers?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Oh my god, that was pretty clear.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Sorry, buddy, he got.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
All all came in and he was Marv Albert offensive foul.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Miles Turner on the illegal screen, I'll sensational play by
Dante DiVincenzo. Time out, Pacers. They want to talk it
over now you're silent though there it is. I want
to just see the replay.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Of how soft to call they were gonna make twelve seconds.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Myles Turner goes and steps. Doesn't really said he took
that extra Come on, he was just complaining about it. No,
come on, he was just complaining about it. Flop twenty
seconds prior. Okay, and now he's crying he gets that
call if Turner goes out, if Turner goes in, and
now they're gonna stop and watch another.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
By technic technically, yes, I would agree with you. With
twelve seconds left in a game, you're gonna call that.
We all we never saw that before in the NCAA tournament.
Helped Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, but look, but the thing is Turner, if he stops,
he's fine, but he takes that extra step, and I
think that's what got the whistle. Now obviously I don't
look at this to see if to go over this again.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I just like that it's a guy that legitimately moments
before was crying about a flop call when he got
called for one on the other end, and then you
you actually get this call like you were screaming at
the official. And I don't think you could say it.
I mean, I don't think he could say I couldn't
keep our jobs and saying well, but that's just it.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I'd like to keep my job.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I was not part of the roast, but it was
funny was because when you came in, you you started
screw even and hollering immediately, and you looked at me
and goes, what's what's going on? I'm like, dude, you're
a little much, and it's like going on for my
team in the big game. Sorry, you're screaming like a luna.
You can't hear me. Grandpa first words flying everywhere. I mean,
it's a working what is what is different? We've been
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going together for ten years.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I'm excited my team is playing in a game that
I'm sorry your teams don't play in games that matter.
I'm sorry you sitting and watching White Sox and.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I wanted to watch this like a professional hairs Really.
I also had the worst headache I think I've had
about a decade.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I keeping the last thing I needed. I keep telling you,
I'm screaming like a lunatic. I keep telling you to
take something, and you trying to tell you you'd stop
believing in these I wish I could.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I wish I could take something to walk away from
my teams. But I can't take something. You take something
and take whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
You need to take. I need better drugs. I mean,
this is the.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Playoffs, man, you I mean you gotta you gotta get
going here. This is a big deal. People are nicked
up and you gotta play.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
This is the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You none of this matters though, right well, why does
not have it mattert Frostburg Brady got roasted. I know
Tom Brady got We'll get to Tom Brady getting runs in.
There's twelve seconds left in the game, and anybody cares
in the Nicks go to the free throw line.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
This game, dude, dude, this is what's going on. Man,
this is it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
This is the biggest story in the world. Like in
France and Austria and Greenland they're watching the Knicks and
the Pacers right now.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
His name's not even on True TV. We think it's
nineteen nine seven. Do you have the bet cast on
True TV?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Oh yea yeah. Lots people like that one with the Pacers.
Lots of people like that one. So with twelve seconds left,
the Knicks got a got a deliberate foul call. Jalen
Brunson hits a free throw. They retain possession one nineteen one,
seventeen twelve seconds left to go. Brunton with the ball,
he is fouled from behind. It's a pretty big push
by Halliburton, so he's going to go to the free
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throw line with ten seconds left, with a chance to
make this a two score game for the Knicks. And look,
I'll be the first guy to tell you. I mean,
I don't know how this is gonna go. That's that's
a pretty cheap foul from behind that push. I don't
know how this is going to go. I don't know
whatever a series is, joke and whatever the series is
going to be. I have no idea how long the
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Knicks can keep this up for. But you know what,
that's part of the fun, because really, you said they're
playing with five guys. I tweeted out after the first quarter,
all the Knick star is going to play forty five
minutes tonight, like they're all going to play forty five minutes,
And I like, how.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Long can you keep it up?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
You got this round and if you make it then
you probably have the Celtics. I mean, how long can
you keep that up?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
For?
Speaker 5 (08:21):
How long can you play like this?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But however long this goes, this is like a magic carpet,
right man. So I'm just it's just easy to enjoy
and whenever the wheels come off them, because you can
tell this is good. This is the next thing where
the wheels are going to come off at some point.
But man, I'll tell you what, this is just out
unbelievably outstanding Nix with a one twenty one to seventeen
lead over the Pacers. Brunson's made another free throw with
ten seconds left to go.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I do enjoy the call of the deliberate foll is.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
It isn't that what we've been doing in the NBA
forever down the stretch when you you know, do a
take foul and either you know you're in the bonus
or you're not. Not, Hey, you get a shot and
the ball, Like, it's pretty clear that's always been the
the strategy.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
So why is that suddenly different?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Now?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
That's all I need to ask about that. But to
your point about the Knicks and the way this squad plays, yeah,
they're likable. They get after it, Josh Hart, I mean
they were doing the giant marveling at his rebounding skill
and acumen as he found his way into the lane
against guys six inches taller than him, corralling rebound after
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it a couple of times when the Pacers did a
really shoddy job of boxing out or not on free throws.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
But yeah, it's a fun ride as so long as
it lasts.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
And for me, as a guy that watched Thibodeau run
my squad in Chicago for years, it was always a
when do the wheels fall off?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
And usually the bike wasn't really well prepared.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
They didn't tighten the screws necessarily enough, so it fell
up part early.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
For you, you at least lived to see another day.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So Brunson makes the second free throw. It's one twenty one,
one seventeen, ten seconds left. Pacers will endbound ball and
try to get down for a bucket.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Maybe they go for a three. Maybe they don't.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Maybe they don't even have the basketball anymore.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Maybe they lost control. Don't yoa know, it's dribbling out
the clock.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Go new, your co new, your co new your coat,
Go new, your co new your coat, Go new, your
co new your coat.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Game one, game one, Game one, go game on, game one,
Go game on.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Are you saying, oh, no, come on, man, come on, no,
no no, But Stefan Marbury wasn't the game though, So
there it is.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Nickx win NIX win is.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
If you couldn't tell Nick win one twenty one, two,
one seventeen, you are so happy. Right now, you are
so unwidely happy. I'm so thrilled. Why can't you enjoy
my success? Why can't you enjoy my for your success?
Sure nothing to do with it, Sure it is.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Are you kidding? I made this happen? Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I bet? I said, Hey, Tips, just get rid of
all the other guys that are playing. Just play the
five guys. Okay, great, Hey, you know what, Listen when
Randall goes out, because eventually he will, well, we'll still
be fine. Just make sure you play all the Villanova
guys together at the same time.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
This is my success.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Oh, I mean you look, I heard on Friday you
were doing a big cell job to run Julius Randall
out of town, so you couldn't even let him enjoy
his status as one of the guys on the sidelines. Dude,
the first thing, Oh, it's ratted you out so fast.
The first yesterday morning, I was.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
On the first thing we did the final call of
the game, six of the Knicks. Six is when I yelled, oh,
by Joel Embiid. Unless you want to come play here,
we'll trade you Julie's Randall. I've always been above board
about trading Julius.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
No, that just been there.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
No, that's been there for a long time, the Randall
for Embian trade. You have done everything to speak and
do existence for as long as I've known you. No,
it's not a u an anti Smith rant. Although I'm
sure if I pulled up our Facebook page right now,
there's a couple of folks that are chiming in with
the go New York go respond your goat go now.
(11:55):
But again, I can't read those on air and keep
my job, so we'll leave that alone.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
No, I'm happy for you.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Look, one of us has to have success in this
sporting landscape eventually. I can't just go on Northwestern soccer
and lacrosse great success tournament.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
We got great.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Success in the in those programs, no question about it.
Baseball a little bit. I mean, there's there's other programs
that have had their their their moments. Football had a
nice year after some really bad administrative stuff. But we
get on down the line. Like my pro sports teams,
No White Sox, you know, win a series over the weekend.
(12:32):
I want to do get run out the gym by
the Rays. The Bulls eliminated a couple of bright spots
still playing games gone the future for the Blackhawks, right
with Connor Bodard, they won twenty three games.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah yeah, and the Bears.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Everybody's jumping on the bandwagon, which means it's gonna suck miserably.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Go New York, Go New York.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'll go New York, New York. Got listen. Let me
let me say this right, because we're talking about this
game a lot. Obviously we have tons of stuff with
the Brady Roast. Let me just say this, not all
game ones are created equal. This was a game coming
in the Pacers clearly had the game plan they wanted,
how they were going to try to disrupt the Knicks offensively,
what they're going to do to Jalen Brunson, how they're
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going to attack. TJ. McConnell was in Brunson's hip pocket
for the entire first half. The Pacers game plan tonight
was phenomenal, and there were times when they executed you
thought they're going to run away with this game. And
they're taking Game one just like they thought they were
going to, because look, Rick Carlisle's a great coach and
there's no way they're coming out of this thinking anything
but we're going to New York and we're taking game
one and this is going to be it. And they
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did everything they wanted to do in this game, everything
they wanted to do, and still Jalen Brunson goes for
forty and still the Knicks find away and win game one.
If you're the Pacers, you walk away going, what the hell, man?
We just did everything. They wouldn't die, They just wouldn't die.
We'd everything we want. Check the box, check the box,
check the box. And still you look down and Brunson's
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had an amazing game, and the Knicks win despite not
getting any points out of their guys off the bench,
and you're walking ahead, go everything was, everything was going
our way, and we lost this game. This has got
to be a huge just a just a huge deflation
for the Pacers after game.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, real quick, you established the pace you wanted to early, right,
Let's let's make them runs, let's make them work.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
We know they don't go very deep. And then you
had four created fourteen turnovers.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Pacers only turned the ball over seven times, although most
of them seemed to be in the final five minutes.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
They were. It was a lot of him Yeah, a
lot of sloppiness.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Down the stretch in terms, and it looked like there
was slickness on both ends of the court, like something
going on there, like guys were sliding.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
All over the plains. But hey, the Knicks survive Game one,
so there is the Knicks win Game one.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
The nightcap is just underway Minnesota in Denver, eight to
six Minnesota with the lead with about seven and a
half to go in in our quarter. Yes, because Tom
Brady got roasted. Coming up, we'll have more on Brady's roast,
what was great.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
And what really was kind of bad of it.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
That, plus a sports debate we haven't had in twenty
years is now back courtesy of the Nuggets and the
Tea Wolves.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Go New York, Go, New York Go. That's next rid
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Speaker 2 (15:14):
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Speaker 1 (15:55):
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to Major League Baseball Walker Bueler, and uh, goodbye, mister Spalding.
Miami with the two nothing lead over the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
The Dodgers come to bat in the bottom of the
first inning. Great return for Walker Buehler, but a little
bit of a rough start, which is to be expecting
considering he hasn't pitched its two thousand and four.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
It's really good to say you get that instant feedback
on your analysis of his return to the diamond too.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Well in the house, I mean you really got the
reaction justin we're looking.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
For Justin Frostburg gave me that reaction to the very much. Yeah,
it is good to see it back the knicker number one.
They are have to win in tonight. Go New York,
Go New York, goat go New.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
York, Go New York, the nixt wind. You have to
do that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The Knicks win the nixt win, next win, next win.
Take something for your headache, my friend, we got hours
out and do something. Takes take it, take it, take it,
take something.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I took the three minutes of Zen while you went
for a walk screaming go New York Go. I had
to walk away your negativity. Positive Monday. There's a lot
of goodness going on in the.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Sporting Let's get the Mike Harmon roast ready to go?
Uh wait, wait, wait, we get that going.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
It's a farse guy up there. I'll be the first
gupt there to roast you. Nothing is off limits. You
know many jokes that make about your brothers and what
they think they've stolen.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
It comes about my brothers.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I'm just assuming things based on movies and television shows.
I've watched it and may or may not have been
set in Chicago, or may have referenced Chicago in some way.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We got Jason locking for ready to stop buying a
couple minutes and obviously looked. The Brady roast on Netflix
was just outstanding. From Brady's response at the end, Bill
Belichick Bob Kraft, some of the great roasters who came
up there, and some of the bad ones Ben Affleck.
It was an incredible night to watch, and I cringe
(17:54):
and I left look roaster a lot of fun And
when roaster executed like that, they're the most fun thing
you could pops watch. And that's what we got last.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna time out, like
I watched it straight just to get after it, and
but I gotta go back and watch it again and
break it down for its component parts because I have
a couple of thoughts on how we really could have
made this a.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Lot lean or uh so, just really quick, want to let.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know that Walker Beehler will go back to the
mount in the second inning at least the tie game show.
Heo Tani has just hit a two run homer to
tie the game at two in the bottom of the
first But joining us now on the hot line, longtime
NFL insider, maybe he'll be a roast master at one
of our roast how about that? Check him out on
Odyssey Washington Post one O five seven the Fan in Baltimore.
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Jason locking for it, Jay, what's happening.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Bud gentlemen all got paid for that?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh maybe?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Or am I being naive? Is that way low? I
don't know. That's the figure that popped into my head.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And in a production deal, Well he have production deal,
whatever wants it doesn't I got a special for Netflix.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Oh we got it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Oh no, it had to be at least that it
had got to be. And Netflix wins because how many
people watch that. It was number one. People are talking
about it that the and Netflix needed a big hit,
like they needed something and all of a sudden they
got it. Yeah, I mean, look, this is perfect.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I don't know that they could have known that the
only Game seven in the NBA like on that day
was going to be two teams nobody cares about and
they were going to play at one o'clock in the afternoon,
you know what I mean? Like there was I mean,
if you're a hockey buff, right, I guess you had
a Game seven in the air in the evening there.
But like it was perfect, like a week solid week
(19:37):
before the schedule comes out, Like really they found like
the perfect pocket for it.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's it's pretty crazy, yeah, because you and you had
the perfect person in Brady who had so much material
on him, and nobody held back and it was stuff
you can't believe. They they said, still, what happens in rows?
Are they going to go over this line? They do it?
It was it was the perfect storm. It was he
was the right guy, it was the right time, it
was the right people to walk. And I'll tell you,
I mean, I can't tell you how many times I
(20:03):
had to pause it because I was laughing so hard,
had something I don't know, laughed wife.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Of like, what the hell did you watch down there?
Like I never hear you laugh like that. I'm like,
go back to sleep. Their roasting Tom Brady. You wouldn't care.
Like if you would have told me beforehand it was
going to be three hours and I was going to
watch all of it in real time, like not even
like pause it to like go take a leak, I'd
have been like, you're out of your mind. But that's
(20:28):
exactly what happened.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
What was your favorite part?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Was? What was your favorite piece? I don't even know,
I mean a favorite. First of all, you can't I
can't really say much of a year that's true, you know,
like to begin with, like, I mean, some of the
stuff that Edelman said some of the stuff that Gromp said,
(20:52):
everything that Nikki Glazer said, like, you know, I don't
know there was I mean, other than Haflec, other than
the two dudes who stood at the screen. I'm not
mister pop culture. I don't know who they are, Like
maybe they're normally really funny, Like, I don't know what
that was. Other than that, everything I thought was great.
(21:14):
You know, like Randy Moss wasn't as into it as
other people. You could tell he didn't really consult with
writers beforehand. I mean, if you're asking me to quibble,
it's pretty clear that Brady was like, everything's fair game
(21:36):
except for my old boss, right, I mean, the billionaire
was the guy who kind of made out the best,
because I can only imagine what was left on the
cutting room floor.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
About Robert Kraft well how eddied along the way, right,
because at the beginning, Brady tells Jeff Ross no on
the massage stuff and that one. It was kind of
they did a little bit from there to the end,
but I'm sure they cut back a lot on what
they did.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Very real to me, like that seemed like, dude, I
will punt you in the face, like you know, like
that didn't seem like jokey joky, that was like, hey,
this is your warning. But yeah, I felt I thought
it was great. I mean I was laughing my ass
off the whole way through.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Jason, I would say, the one thing I would do
for the editing is, all right, we got it.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Everybody thinks Gronk is dumb.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
We could have made that a nice, lean, two hours
a movie.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
But but I have to say it also did serve
as the perfect precursor to him going up there and
like you know what I mean, not being able to
read the telephone. That is true, you know what I mean,
So he didn't lean into it so well. And like
if he didn't spike the glass and everything, like I
might have problem with you. I would have been like, yeah,
if we're condensing it, like, yes, Kevin Hart is really small,
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Gronk is not, you know, a mensa guy, Like yeah,
I think we all knew that going in, and certainly
they beat that to death. I mean the way they
went at.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Each other though, you know what I means that you thought.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Might have been forbidden, like tom plastic surgery, you know,
Alex Guerrero locker room talk about who might dabble with
whom in their spare time, like the airing of all
that in real time, I was, I like, yeah, other
than craft, I didn't feel like punches were.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Pulled, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And the funny thing is that my favorite line I
think was an ad lib because Belichick did have a
little bit trouble delivering like he had a tough Trump
beating prompt, like he stumbled over a couple of punchlines,
but I'm pretty sure he added them when he looked
at Bradyon's and see not too easy running the team,
is it Tom? And I was like, oh, And I
was like, that's something that he just said, Like, I
don't think that was on prompt because he had turned
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his head at that point, so I think he just
went not too easy to run the team?
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Is it Tom?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And that was I thought, Okay, this is when hey
knives are out.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Now we're gonna say it over and everybody's gonna have
no choice but to smile through this, because if you
don't smile, you look bad. And it's like they must
have wanted to kill each other after this roast.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well, and I mean as much as in their own way,
they kind of sort of poo poot it. The fact
that every patriot who got a mic in his hand
felt like he needed to touch on the Brady Belichick
relationship to some degree or another, I think tells you
just how frosty it was at the end, you know
what I mean. And I don't know that we needed
a whole lot of confirmation of that. Like, I think
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the reporting has been pretty strong, and I mean, like
anybody who can read people who can read body language,
you know, who just understands these egos, how monstrous these
egos can be when they accomplish with these guys accomplished.
But the fact that everybody kind of got their two
cents in on that and then and then in their
own way try to act like I'm just joking, Like no, Like,
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it's pretty clear that a whole lot of fence mending
has had to try to go on, and let's face that,
a lot of it, you know, still needs to go on,
depending on how much they care about, you know, having
these relationships moving forward. But between Craft and Belichick, in
between Brady and Belichick, like, it's clear that everybody knew
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that that was super frosty.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
At the end.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I did learn that the answer to everything in Kevin
Hart's world is hey, let's take a shot. But with
Brady's commentary, a lot of thought pieces in the overnight
Jason about the deflate gate and twenty million dollars and
everything else, and it's.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Like, oh, there was this admission.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'm like, I think he was saying, if you paid
me twenty million dollars, I'll say whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I want to hear. Yeah, yeah, No, I took it
more as that, not that he was admitting that he
I mean, even the way he framed it, which again
he was using the language directly from their own right,
you know, when they finally got around to like the
final version of this thing, you know, which it always
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changes four or five times, Like go read the initial
crap they accused the Saints of, and then go read
what the former commissioner who they had to bring it
at the end to try to clean it up, like
go look at what Tagliabu actually was willing to say,
and then even half of what the league was a legend.
But that all gets lost in the lost right because
it's the league, yep. And they've got their partners in
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the media, and they crammed their version down people's throats,
and by the time we get to whatever science actually
said or what a quasi independent party actually said, it
ends up being nothing like what was out there at first.
And you know, I think he was kind of well
not kind of him, and I think he was damning
them with their own language and basically saying, you guys
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are idiots for wasting twenty million dollars to reach a
conclusion that you were going to reach.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
No matter what.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
You're right cling to that no matter what. So yeah,
give me the money.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Uh, you know, when it came down to it, Well,
you talk about who he disappointed. I was disappointed in
ben Affleck because he was just rambling and just like
what does he do?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
What is he up there for?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Fascinating?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Yeah, And I honestly.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I thought Peyton was going to be better at the end.
I thought his singers were going to be better. I
thought he was going to be a little bit sharper.
But I thought, like Peyton's kind of backing off a
little bit, like I just because you saved him for
the end and you didn't save Belichick for the end,
which was like, okay, he's a but you saved Peyton
for the end and I thought, yeah, Peyton was fine,
but I'm like, he's not in the top ten of
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people who went and wrote to them last night.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
My guess is that it became a time issue. You know,
like Shaud, you did hear them allude a couple times
to like, all of a sudden, in the final thirty minutes,
you started hearing people talk about, I have only so
much time. Was you know, I can't imagine trying to
budget with that many personalities and people who don't really
do TV, and you've got a two hour and fifty
five minute hard network out you know, in the close,
(27:38):
nobody cares about it until it's you know, it's fifteen
minutes left, and you know, Affleck's still rambling and it's like, well,
wait a minute, Brady's got to get at least five minutes.
My guess is that you talk to people in the
production crew that Peyton probably was told, you know what
I mean, was probably told, hey, this is what you got.
You know what I mean, We're going to read this
much in the prompter, and then you got to go
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because we're tight like and you know, we're gonna squeeze
other people. But Brady's got to at least get his
stuff in at the end. I'm guessing that there was
a fair amount left on the chopping room floor.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, I wait to see their first meeting when he
joins the Manning cast in the fall.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Here's all the stuff I left on the cutting room floor.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
So we have that, all right, So, Jason, the obvious
question becomes, they had great success with this, how do
you follow it up?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
And it's tough, Like I mean, you just think about
like all of the Tom Brady stuff that is unique
to him, all that winning, you know, the way it ended,
all the two different fricking gates, you know, the spy
gate and the deflate gate, like his celebrity buddies, you
(28:48):
know what I mean, him being so Hollywood, him spending
half his career with a house in Malibu, or maybe
even more than half of his career, like the whole
TV twelve thing, Alex Grero, you know what I mean.
Like I'm just trying to think of his contemporaries like
Big Ben, I mean, yeah, especially if it's no holds
bart oh boy, oh my god. Like there's a lot
(29:11):
of meatle met bone, I mean, especially in the hands
of some of those comedians. But like Drew Brees. No,
you know what I mean, Like, I'm just thinking of guys.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I'll tell you, Jay, I think there's only two guys.
There's two guys you can roast like you roasted Braden
have this success when he's done. Lebron James and Aaron Rodgers.
Those are the two guys you can run. Those are
the only two. It's like, there's so much materials, so
many things you can get into, all kinds of crazy things.
I think those are the only two guys you can
look and say, this is the success we're gonna have,
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even Lebron.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Though I don't think it's to the extent of Brady,
you know what I mean, when's then you factor in
Gizell divorcing him and all that and picking football literally
over his family, Like I don't mean, I don't think
it rises to that level with Lebron. I mean, how
much can you get out of the decision and how
long was that? Think about how much of this stuff
was fresh, Like how much of this was breaking news,
(30:06):
even the waffling retirements, Like so much of this happened
in the last I don't know, twenty four and thirty
six months. I don't know I don't know, maybe it
to be hard to top this dude, It just it
really would like I don't I think it'd be pretty tough.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking For That is at
Jason lock and for. Check him out on Odyssey Washington
Post one O five seven the Fan in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Jay as always buddy appreciated.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
We'll talk to you next week. Maybe we'll roast you
at some point.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, I mean you can get it with solid twenty
five minutes. See.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
But hey, Jason, there goes Jason lock and for.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I mean, I think Rogers and Lebron, when you talk
about having the breadth of material that you can go
in so many different directions on, I think those are
the guys.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I don't think there's much to Lebron unless there's a
bunch that's just bubbling.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Under the surface.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
He gets coaches fired. Yeah, he moves.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Down to town. He had a a man purse at
one point. That's it, and that's become in vogue, so
that doesn't even count. Started with Joey Triviiani The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon live from
the tirec dot Com Studios. Yes, we'll have more on
the Knicks and the Pacers game one. But coming up
next a debate we used to have so much in sports,
(31:20):
haven't had it in about twenty years, but it looks
like we're gonna have it again after what happened.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Tonight in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (31:26):
We'll tell you next Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Hey, Jason, the Knicks one? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Very good?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Very good?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
That's nice.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Hey, how much do you love the Knicks? Okay, you
got that whiny guy singing to you. Now, everything's coming
up for you.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
There are like a very few songs from like the
vast barren wasteland of sports, which is the early aughts
that I just have such a guilty pledgere I listened
to all the time I'm in the car and saying,
this is one of.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Them, you know, Skater Boys another one. There's very few.
I'm like, oh no, no, no, this one, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Is this a song by the guys that did the
did Phineas and ferb This is a simple plan. Oh okay,
it's a simple plan because who were the other guys
that bowling for soup or something? Yeah, there was, But
there were so many bands in the aughts that sounded
just like I say, yeah, the whole thing. It's kind
of like listening to pop music now. Sure like, Wow,
I heard the one from new one from Dua Lipa. No,
(32:27):
that wasn't Dua Lipa. That was that insert h okay
that My daughter's.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Like, Dad, how dare you? I'll sound the same.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
We will have more on the Knicks and the Pacers
coming up in a few minutes, including the biggest coaching
move of the game that's not getting enough run. But uh,
maybe Minnesota doesn't need Rudy Gobert right now. They lead
Denver forty three twenty six, six and a half to
go in the second quarter. It has been all Tea,
(32:56):
Wolves and Yes playing without Rudy Gobert, who was favored
to be defensive player of the Year again probably for
the last time until Wemby starts winning a bunch o
congratulations weby on ye Yeah, let's go go. Bear, of
course missing the game tonight because his partner had a
baby this morning. Congratulations Rudy go Bear, congratulations, and his
partner Julia had a baby and he was not able
(33:18):
to make it to the game tonight because by the
time the baby came there was some weather involved apparently,
which you know, okay, they couldn't get him back in time.
And really, you heard Chris Finch say, Hey, I don't
know how ready he would have been to play anyway.
I'm sure he's up all night. You have the baby.
So they're playing without go Bear tonight. And it's a
big deal because, hey, you can go up to Zip
(33:40):
going home and maybe you can clinch this series, but
you have a kid. This was a debate that was
so hot and heavy, like twenty years ago when this happened,
when when like Sean Green was going to potentially miss
games for the Dodgers because of the Jewish holiday, or
a couple of players who were gonna miss games because
they were going to have a kid, And is that
something you can do? Is that? And it became this
(34:01):
whole huge deal And I'm glad that that so far,
this debate, we've not seen so many Rudy Gobert is
letting his teammates down. It's the worst thing in the world.
It's all of this because honestly, yeah, you have a kid,
and you have a kid, you stay with your kid.
It's gonna be a memory you have the rest of
your life. I still remember the day Zoe was born.
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Do you remember they both your kids were born? If
you had done something else that day, what are you
gonna remember? Right? You can see the video of this
at any time you want to. It's what I did
second game of the series against Denver. Yes, it's a
big game. I completely understand it. But this is a
life thing. That's one of the two or three biggest
moments in your life. I mean, you're born, which is
your biggest moment. You married, you have kids, I mean nothing,
(34:44):
You may not have any of that. They just you know,
be born right, He made me born, were you're born,
taxes and done?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You're born right. That may be all you do. But
if you have those other stuffs, yeah, those aren't going
to want to have.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Your wedding is your super Bowl. Your kid being born
as your super Bowl, and that's something that you can't
be away from that. And and it was if it's
a case of listen, you're not you're you're playing.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
You wouldn't be able to play.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
We understand, I mean and I understand, and I see
the debate already, and I'm very happy that it hasn't
been and I'm sure we have to have to wake
till tomorrow and see how this game goes.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
It's he just ruined everything the Tea Wolves are looking for.
They just let the Nuggets go.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
When they don't get a big rebound down the stretch,
or you know, Jokic goes nuts because you didn't have
another guy to get after him defensively. Yeah, sure it's
gonna be there. It'll rear its head. You've seen a
couple of x NBA guys. I'm not going to give
their names any credit because all they do is hot
take nonsense and fire flares up into the sky.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
But you know, I look, both my.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Kids came in and they were not easy circumstances, either
of them, and I can't I couldn't have imagined missing
them now, given the job that I have. It wasn't
a playoff basketball game that was being decided right. It
was a hey, you know what, you'll get your column
in another eight hours or whatever, I get it, or
you know what, we need to move a video shoot
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to day or I need to do it from you know,
outside of vending machine at a hospital.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
A little different circumstance. But yeah, there are very few.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Things in his life that that can ever come close
to those kind of moments now and the immediate thereaft.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And can you imagine someone that's going to depend on
you for life, that that you will love unconditionally? Can
you imagine that story the rest of life?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Hey? Where were you when I was born?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Dad? As a basketball game?
Speaker 5 (36:30):
And like it's from a movie, Well, I kind of were, Dad.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
You loved your sport more than me, And it's all
the sport that pays.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
For everything you will.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
That's exactly it. I've been paying for your ass for
eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
You're my eighteen years.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
You were at eighteen years I found down.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Well, hey, that's happened a few times along the way too, Dad.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
You were never there for me. Dad, Where were you?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Dad?
Speaker 5 (36:52):
You knew Yokich was going to roll over you guys?
Come on, man, name lost game one. I know all this, Dad,
come on? Day of my birth was a metaphor for light.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
You're never there.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I never backed me up, old man.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I knew Fincher was gonna put Karl Anthony Town's in
a better spot to that was the guy that needed
to step up.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
A little bit, do it?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Not? You? Dad? Not?
Speaker 5 (37:09):
You could have stayed where I was born to help Mom.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Could have done all that, Dad, child just the other day, Dad, I.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Know at this point, Anthony Everards is already Michael Jordan.
So stop trying to tell me nobody knew what he.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Was gonna be.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I understand that they didn't need you, Dad, Dad, you
were you know what, You're an added part. Dad. You
were at the end of your reign, a defensive player
of the year and one then the dad shoots back.
Your mom and I were just fine, and then you
were an ad on. Take Dad, what's a defensive player
that you're supposed to do. He's supposed to protect you,
protect You didn't protect me at all.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Dad slammed door and any.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
And that's what. Then you get the commercial like on
Netflix for like you know, Paxlova or something or whatever
it is.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Hey do you want to be able to run around
in a field and not worry about hey fever? Well
you need this.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Side effects include death, dismemberment, fingers may fall off, oh
and general ill health.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
But hey, you may be able to run around in
the field. This is awesome.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
I like the you know you you put everything, someone's
gonna love you unconditionally.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Like, I mean, that's that's the goal.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, that's we're hopen for many, many of those relationships.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Vult sure, I'm glad. I really want to see if
this becomes hot take theater, I really will. It would
be outstanding if.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Denver comes back from this nineteen point deficit and Jamal
Murray actually hits a shot.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
We'll have more on this game and of the biggest
NBA story of the night next nix Yo.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
I will say that real quick about the show. Heyani,
home run the deep center. Yeah, you will never hear
the crack of the bat that loud in your life.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
We'll play as soon as the games.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
I will say, baseball is so dumb that you can't
play a highlight during the game.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Still.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, it's a heavy crack of the bat like it
it's very never heard. Yeah, well you'd have to get
the highlight anyway.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
But the look there, Santa, you want to pay the
final hit play?
Speaker 5 (38:56):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
No, you pay because you're gonna pay that fine, not me.
I'm not, then don't play it for at Dodger highlight.
Let's just play it Rob Park. We'll just blame the fager.
We'll say the Saga needed it and he'm blamed to Saga.
That's fine, he got excited to hit an extra.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
Yeah, what do you think are we allowed to play
the crack of the bout?
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Is that that's not a considered a highlight?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Shaking his head going.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yes, it sounds like wood hitting anything, probably in the
dangerous territory.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
So since Steve said the play it, let's uh, let's
not be.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
So we'll have more on this game coming up. Meanwhile,
Rudy gober has got to be enjoying his night with
his child congratulations and watching the Minnesota Timberwolves have no
difficulty with the Nuggets in the first half. With a
minute to go before halftime, Minnesota leads Denver fifty six
to thirty three. It is an absolute implosion by the
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Nuggets and the tea Wolves out here are boat racing Denver. Look,
we've heard Nicola Yokuld say this after game one. Hey,
and that was a really big statement. Hey, the t
Wolves know us, right, because how much do we always
talk about the NBA players are about matchups, right, they
are the Lakers. The Nuggets are a horrible matchup for them, obviously,
and it looks like the matchup with the Nuggets and
(40:16):
the Tea Wolves, this is not good for Denver. So,
I mean, he says, hey, they know us, they know us,
and when you hear they go, okay, they know us.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
We need to have a little bit more focus, a
little bit more energy.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
But when when he says something like that, that's like
a bit of a warning sign, going hey, maybe by
that he means, hey, we're in trouble here because they
don't fear us. We are a bad matchup for them,
and seeing how they are being able to just continue
to get better by leaps and bounds as this game
goes on. And I just watched the Nuggets have two
straight turnovers in a row with twenty nine seconds left
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to go in the first half. It's now sixty one
thirty three Minnesota over Denver. I mean, you think this
series might be.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Over watching as it goes I mean, you talk about
roster construction.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
They know each other.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I think the more in telling Jokic quote after Game
one was the I need to clone myself in terms
of matching up with the height and depth of what
they have in Minnesota. And certainly you know we're missing
one of those elements tonight. But Tim Connelly was the
guy that helped construct what Denver became and now he's
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running things in Minnesota. So saw the success, saw the
growth and depth there and said, oh and one on
the other side, and now you look at the Timberwolves
equip to give Denver everything they need. And look, we
joked about it before, but the reality is from a
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just shot making standpoint, Jamal Murray has been invisible in
this game and he struggled outside of the game. Winners
against the Lakers don't need to revisit that series, But
outside of that, what do you shoot like thirty eight
percent in that series as a bad ankle that we've
talked about a bunch, but shooting, he's been off the mark.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
He's one for ten tonight. He's one for ten tonight,
and you've seen.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
A number of bad turnovers, bad rotations, and they're letting
them play physically, and that doesn't bode well for Denver
because you don't have you know, the size, you know
Gordon will get down into it.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
As well.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
But if you're not gonna get Jokics to the foul line,
he's and he's taking a beating like that.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
That adds up in a hurry.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
So right now, halftime sixty one thirty five, Minnesota the
lead over Denver. We we may get the t Woolves
and the Thunder in the Western Conference finals. Look out.
And if that happens, like we said last week, maybe
SGA and Anthony Edwards is the next great rivalry in
the NBA. What on that was the case? What what
if Edwards in XGA all the Yeah, we got Curry
(42:44):
and Lebron and now we're bringing in Wemby.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
We got better?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
No, No, what if Anthony Edwards an XGA was the
next big rival But the.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Worst of it is, you know, because we love to
do our comparisons and start attaching names to guys, how
many morphings of Edwards did you see into Michael Jordan
and big thought pieces and debates about Michael Jordan's Like,
we can't just let it be Anthony Edwards and a
guy in Minnesota and talk about Minnesota mattering for the
first time in the NBA sphere in a long time. No,
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compare him to the greatest of all time. Let's get
the tongues wagon. Aaron Gordon leads the Nuggets with fifteen
first half points. Jokis just three of eight eight points.
On the other side, Towns with twenty, Edwards finishing strong
with sixteen.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Meanwhile, the game that everybody can't just get over because
it was so great.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Oh, I was going to say, I was hoping we'd
get a good game tonight. We did see a great
one earlier because we'd sure as held on that we
did that Cleveland game yesterday was yeah, yeah, because I
held of a game nobody watched.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
The Knicks beat the Pacers one twenty one to one seventeen.
They hold on at the end. Jalen Brunson with another
incredible game. He goes for forty three and six rebounds
as much as and you think about this for the Pacers, right,
because we'll get to the big coaching move in a
second that I want to spotlight is that you think
of this with pay You did everything you could to
slow him down, right. It felt like watching the game,
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the Pacers were doing everything they wanted to do. They
had McConnell chasing Jalen Brunson, they were exhausting him. They
were making him work for every bucket he had, and
the guy had forty three. Like that's a Jordan Knight.
Fourth quarter was Jordan Knight. Yeah, I mean he. I
mean that's where you have to really understand that, Hey,
this is how deep the pacers are for all this,
all the pacers athletically, and the Knicks are playing five guys. Yeah,
(44:25):
I get it. They did everything they wanted to do
and still he goes for forty three.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I would also say this, I don't underestimate the guy
that doesn't look like he's in great shape because Jalen Brunson,
like folks will take their shots like, ah, he looks
short and stumpy whatever.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
He's basically Tony Gwinn Mike, but he's getting after it.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
I mean Tony Gwynn, who was a great point guard
before he became sure, before he became the greatest hitter.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
I've seen in my life.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Sure, but you look at Jaylen Bruns like, oh, we're
gonna tire him out cardio physically, there's no chance in help.
And then he's still running around guys in the fourth
quarters like damn it, I thought he'd fall.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
That's how Tim hasn't tired you out.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
No, that's right.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
Playing with that squad Timms.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Has him doing like Rocky four workouts with like in
the snow, carrying like all these big piles of shot.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Of the wood.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Now you have to carry the wood.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Get at the boulders, little wheelbarrow with Paulie in it.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Let's go, come Ony rock Pus Puss, Jalen Puss, Jalen Bred.
The pacers are on the treadmill getting shot up. But
that's how good they failed.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
That's how good the guy is. That's how good the
guy is. I mean, that's how good. Jalen been amazing
and he's become a cult hero.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
I just in New York, but all the folks, I've
never heard more people and then this is a testament
to him and what he's done this year.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
I've never heard more people in our business.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Say they were wrong about a guy like legitimately get
on their TV radio platforms and just say when he
got signed, I.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Didn't like the contract.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
I was wrong Because now they've watched him and let's
face it, because of the knicks you you were getting
them over the course of the year. As soon as
it was determined they were they were gonna be a
bit better than average in the Eastern Conference. That they
became a focal point. And so you got a lot
of oh case and point. Let's watch this performance and
(46:16):
what he's been doing in these playoffs thus far, absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I'd be really, I mean, we're gonna exhaust and we're
gonna make him work for all those points. And now
it's like, crap, Now, what the hell do we do
because we just did this game one and he torched us.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
We couldn't even get into their bench like we could.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I think if guys fouled out, Tims is gonna leave
four guys on the floor.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
My team's on the court.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yeah, I mean, oh man, oh man, that sucks it
hard is not fouled out?
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Oh nobody else is coming in. Now we're going with
those far And you used three guys off the bench.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Robinson played twelve minutes, took a shot, you had McBride
come in, he played eleven minutes. Again, the total played
there were at no point did it seemed they were
out there that long. I thought it was they're out
there and there was a click, So they must have
like subbed in for eight seconds at a time. But
you get one for three between them, and then precious
(47:08):
at Chew I hit one of two free throws, so
you had to combine three points off the bench.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
On the court.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
He was what he was on the court, but he
was there, and Marbury was there. Yeah, they were all
there trying to get, trying to get. He was holding
some guy up. I didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
Steve Cohen got so much airtime.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
He's sitting in the jack seats for the next like,
Steve Cohen is there.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Oh, stop, they keep showing you for he keeps wearing
the set.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Dude. The dude is worth like thirty billion dollars. Okay,
owns the mets is He's worth thirty billion dollars free
he I think he makes five hundred million dollars a month.
I think that's what his business is. That's what he
makes a month, five hundred million dollars. Yes, exactly, because
you and JJ Abrams. But look, let me just talk
about this because we talk about coaching moves. And for
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most of the first half I said, Wow, Rick Carlisle
really has the advantage here, because again, the Pacers did
what they wanted to do. They had the pace of
the game being what they wanted. They were going up
and down the floor, they were getting easy baskets, they
were making the Knicks work offensively, and they were trying
to exhaust Jalen Brunson. Right, they did everything they wanted
to do, and I said, wow, they have to find
some way to figure things out at halftime. And then
(48:17):
middle of the third quarter, it's a it's a it's
like a one point game, and there's a foul call
that looked like it was questionable that sent Pascal Siakam
to the line, and it looked like something you could challenge,
but Tims was like, no, I'm not going to challenge it.
He wound up missing both three throws anyway, and I'm like, oh, okay,
and I'm sitting there going, yeah, you want to save
(48:37):
that challenge for some time later on. It's a basket
in the third quarter, it's a one point game. What
are you really doing? But at that point, the Knicks
were kind of struggling a little bit, and I was like, ah,
maybe you could have done it, but okay, I get it.
And then two minutes later, Brunson goes up and blocks
Miles Turner. Right, you know, you know, four foot one
Jalen Brunson goes up and blocks nine foot tall Miles
Turner and the ball goes The ball gets deflected to
(48:59):
the to the Knicks, who keep possession. They call a foul.
This is the play that Tibbs challenges and I'm like, okay, wow, okay, wow,
we didn't use it a couple minutes ago. Now we're
using that okay. And it comes back and saying yep,
no foul on Brunson. Knicks retained possession. And that was
such a great decision because that play was an energetic play,
Like that bump put life back in the garden because
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here's Brunson, you know, you know, only at six '
three is blocking Miles turn which he should never be
able to do. And the fact that your best player,
you now got the ball and it was a tie
game at that point. You now got the ball and
no foul, and the Knicks went on a run and
went up by six and the Pacers had to come
back and became a tie game going to the fourth quarter.
(49:43):
Like that was such a great decision because at that
point the Knicks needed something that even though it was
a one point game, they didn't have a lot of energy.
Not a lot going on, but here's a very emotional play.
I take that chance and it gets overturned and the
Knicks going go on a run and it was their
biggest lead they had in the game up until that.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Okay, Now take your had off for a moment. Okay,
and be a realist and actually watch this. There's no
chance in hell that should have been reversed. Jumps into
his body. Yeah, but he got all ball, nobody he
got all of him, but he got off his blood.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
Now, when we had a rock suck robot, his neck
would have been flying on us.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
What Turner needed to do was he needed to move
to sell that, and he didn't like that.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
He went like a guy that got No.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
He didn't do it until after the ball had already
come down. Like if he wants to sell, he needed
to sell that that there was more contact. If he
sold that more but I think he would. But I
think he was surprised obviously that that Brunson came from
you know, came from behind to get it. If he
goes down, if he doesn't, if he if he gets
that contact, knows the ball's not going in and immediately
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goes to the ground. I don't think that call gets reversed,
but he's able to keep his His.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
Is how do you reverse him with that amount of
contact that knocks him the way he does?
Speaker 5 (51:03):
How do you reverse it?
Speaker 4 (51:03):
I understand if you didn't call the fall, how you
can then say no, no, no, we challenge if you're Rick
Carlyle and and and they they flip into a fall,
but going the.
Speaker 5 (51:13):
Other way like there's too much contact. Yeah, it was
a tough one to overturn.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
It was ridiculous between that the kickball that wasn't a kickball,
the there.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Was me just just kick it doesn't mean it's not
a kickball.
Speaker 5 (51:28):
Screen.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Let's go through all the nurse Now, forget about the
times that the Knicks lost the ball and they gave
it to the Pacers in the last couple of minutes too,
that happened. Don't at times?
Speaker 5 (51:36):
Oh no, just so once where the Pacers lose it.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Okay, I got it. They took the game from them.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
Yes, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Well, you tried telling me that Jalen Bronson was had
air when they threw the ball and it bounced up
off a bounce.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
Well it looked like he didn't. It looked like he
was already out, but apparently wasn't. So bounce.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah, but but when you're out of bounds, you're out
of bounce, you're at a bound, you're at a boun
you're standing at a bund, you're standing out of bounce,
you out of bounds, Well hits you. It's it's off
the guy that threw it out of bounce. But it
looked like he hit the ground, which means okay, but
they said was in the air. Okay, didn't look like
it to me, But okay. They get the pacers ball,
got the ball back there. You were fine, get the
ball back, did everything you.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
Needed anyway, The end game is that you put up
Hail Mary and you got it completed on a reversal
that shouldn't have been a reversal.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
And it was a huge They would they wouldn't have
called for it if they didn't think they were going
to get it. The Knicks aren't going to do that
in the late late stage of the third quarter unless
they knew they were going to get it.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
So they knew something they ever made it was home cooking.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
They ever replayed Guru who knows like the Knicks do
great challenging, like the TIBs is Tibbs Is percentage of
challenging of calls is really big, and they have a
guru that like, hey, when when I say this, you
challenge it because.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
You're gonna have to look at the pool report because
someone had to have asked them about this.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
I'm gonna say, we robbed the Pacers shop.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
You guys, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (52:59):
I'm sorry to neither your team's are in the play.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
No no, but no, no, no, but literally you you
brought this play up like it was just a play
in the game on a grand scale, and I brought
it up as the huge play to florm stuff that did.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
And I'm going to tell you they got it wrong.
Well again, they went back and looked at it. Okay,
so the Knicks saw it and said they would get it.
They went back and looked at it, and then still
and then still they got it wrong. Okay, all right,
just want to see where you're at with it. Okay,
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seconds to go Nicks Pacers Game one. Dante DiVincenzo with
a three to give the Knicks a three point lead.
Madison Square garden erupted. Even Steve Cohen was standing going nuts.
But Pascal Siakam has considered as in the meantime gone
in four a layup to cut the lead to one
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one to eighteen one seventeen Knicks to the lead over Indiana,
And now I think they're gonna look at this play
that just happened. Uh. They have been trying to deny
the inbounds to Jalen Brunson for the last couple of
minutes in their two minute defense, and it looked like
Brunson may have just lost the handle and the ball
goes out of bounds. Not sure if it went off
(01:34):
of Haliburton waiting to see.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Looks like it might have gone office. It looks like
it went office foot. So they're going to look at it.
Depending on what kind of angle they have, this is
either going to go back to the Knicks or the
Pacers will have a chance to take the lead with
about twenty six seconds left to go. Look, this game
has been so much fun, all right. Every time it
looked like the Pacers were gonna put the Knicks away,
(01:58):
the Knicks find a way to get back. The Knicks
are exhausted, they're playing with five guys. I mean they
put their they put their backups in. You know, you've
got a little bit of Mitchell Robinson, a little bit
of Deuce McBride for a couple of minutes in the
first half, the lead evaporated and there's been almost no
changes ever since. Brunston came out for about eight seconds
at the end of the third quarter. But the Knicks
(02:19):
are trying to desperately hang on with five guys. The Pacers,
they've been trying to run all over New York tonight
and keep them running across the floor, the running double
triple screens regularly on offense, and the Pacers defensively. Clearly
have the right game plan for the Knicks. But every
time you think you kill the Knicks, they just know
you are not. We are getting up. It's like Michael
(02:40):
Myers or Jason at the end. Nope, I'm gonna get
back up. But I just chopped your head off and
your arm. Nope, gonna get back up. That to this
game has been This game has been so much fun,
just a flesh wound.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Over the last three what forty five it's like a
fourteen to eight Nick scoring advantage, fast paced.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
It really comes to get you when you look at
the schedule going ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You don't get a lot of days off in this round,
and you do actually have back to backs next Sunday
and Monday.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I know it's insane.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
That's not looking good for the Nick.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
However, if you were to tell me that Robinson and
McBride each played at least ten minutes.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I would have called you a lot. Yeah, yeah, I'm no,
that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Like you look at the box and I was like, wait,
he was out there for ten minutes. No, it couldn't
have been. But yeah, a total of three points, one
of them coming from precious Atua off the bench. He
has four minutes play. That's a thank for Thibodeau.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
He's actually played well, but now somehow he's not in
the rotation. Like I only trust guys from Villanova and
Og and Hertenstein.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The only guys I trust. That's it. Everybody else is
coming off the floor. So they gave the ball back
to the Knicks with twenty seconds left to go, and
they retained possession balls out of bounds with about eighteen
seconds left to go. So there'll be a timeout on
the floor here while they check and see who the
ball goes out of bounds.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
You know, none of this matters.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
What any know that if it matters. Tom Brady got
roasted man. Tom Brady got roasted in It was awesome.
We will get to Tom Brady a billion. But this
is the last few seconds of the Knicks game here,
and I think this is gonna go.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Oh that's tough to see.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
To Brunson, well means he's sing, he's standing, so it
doesn't matter he's out of bounds if he's If he's
standing out of bounds, it's out of bounds. So I
think what they're looking at to see if Brunson was
in the air. Because Brunson tried to throw the ball,
why do.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
They give it to the Pacers?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Oh my god, that was pretty clear.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Sorry, buddy, he got.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
All all came in and he was Marv Albert offensive foul.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Miles Turner on the illegal screen, I'll sensational play by
Dante DiVincenzo. Time out, Pacers. They want to talk it
over now you're silent though there it is. I want
to just see the replay.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Of how soft to call they were gonna make twelve seconds.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Myles Turner goes and steps. Doesn't really said he took
that extra Come on, he was just complaining about it. No,
come on, he was just complaining about it. Flop twenty
seconds prior. Okay, and now he's crying he gets that
call if Turner goes out, if Turner goes in, and
now they're gonna stop and watch another.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
By technic technically, yes, I would agree with you. With
twelve seconds left in a game, you're gonna call that.
We all we never saw that before in the NCAA tournament.
Helped Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, but look, but the thing is Turner, if he stops,
he's fine, but he takes that extra step, and I
think that's what got the whistle. Now obviously I don't
look at this to see if to go over this again.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I just like that it's a guy that legitimately moments
before was crying about a flop call when he got
called for one on the other end, and then you
you actually get this call like you were screaming at
the official. And I don't think you could say it.
I mean, I don't think he could say I couldn't
keep our jobs and saying well, but that's just it.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I'd like to keep my job.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I was not part of the roast, but it was
funny was because when you came in, you you started
screw even and hollering immediately, and you looked at me
and goes, what's what's going on? I'm like, dude, you're
a little much, and it's like going on for my
team in the big game. Sorry, you're screaming like a luna.
You can't hear me. Grandpa first words flying everywhere. I mean,
it's a working what is what is different? We've been
(06:15):
going together for ten years.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I'm excited my team is playing in a game that
I'm sorry your teams don't play in games that matter.
I'm sorry you sitting and watching White Sox and.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I wanted to watch this like a professional hairs Really.
I also had the worst headache I think I've had
about a decade.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I keeping the last thing I needed. I keep telling you,
I'm screaming like a lunatic. I keep telling you to
take something, and you trying to tell you you'd stop
believing in these I wish I could.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I wish I could take something to walk away from
my teams. But I can't take something. You take something
and take whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
You need to take. I need better drugs. I mean,
this is the.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Playoffs, man, you I mean you gotta you gotta get
going here. This is a big deal. People are nicked
up and you gotta play.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
This is the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You none of this matters though, right well, why does
not have it mattert Frostburg Brady got roasted. I know
Tom Brady got We'll get to Tom Brady getting runs in.
There's twelve seconds left in the game, and anybody cares
in the Nicks go to the free throw line.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
This game, dude, dude, this is what's going on. Man,
this is it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
This is the biggest story in the world. Like in
France and Austria and Greenland they're watching the Knicks and
the Pacers right now.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
His name's not even on True TV. We think it's
nineteen nine seven. Do you have the bet cast on
True TV?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Oh yea yeah. Lots people like that one with the Pacers.
Lots of people like that one. So with twelve seconds left,
the Knicks got a got a deliberate foul call. Jalen
Brunson hits a free throw. They retain possession one nineteen one,
seventeen twelve seconds left to go. Brunton with the ball,
he is fouled from behind. It's a pretty big push
by Halliburton, so he's going to go to the free
(07:42):
throw line with ten seconds left, with a chance to
make this a two score game for the Knicks. And look,
I'll be the first guy to tell you. I mean,
I don't know how this is gonna go. That's that's
a pretty cheap foul from behind that push. I don't
know how this is going to go. I don't know
whatever a series is, joke and whatever the series is
going to be. I have no idea how long the
(08:02):
Knicks can keep this up for. But you know what,
that's part of the fun, because really, you said they're
playing with five guys. I tweeted out after the first quarter,
all the Knick star is going to play forty five
minutes tonight, like they're all going to play forty five minutes,
And I like, how.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Long can you keep it up?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
You got this round and if you make it then
you probably have the Celtics. I mean, how long can
you keep that up?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
For?
Speaker 5 (08:21):
How long can you play like this?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But however long this goes, this is like a magic carpet,
right man. So I'm just it's just easy to enjoy
and whenever the wheels come off them, because you can
tell this is good. This is the next thing where
the wheels are going to come off at some point.
But man, I'll tell you what, this is just out
unbelievably outstanding Nix with a one twenty one to seventeen
lead over the Pacers. Brunson's made another free throw with
ten seconds left to go.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I do enjoy the call of the deliberate foll is.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
It isn't that what we've been doing in the NBA
forever down the stretch when you you know, do a
take foul and either you know you're in the bonus
or you're not. Not, Hey, you get a shot and
the ball, Like, it's pretty clear that's always been the
the strategy.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
So why is that suddenly different?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Now?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
That's all I need to ask about that. But to
your point about the Knicks and the way this squad plays, yeah,
they're likable. They get after it, Josh Hart, I mean
they were doing the giant marveling at his rebounding skill
and acumen as he found his way into the lane
against guys six inches taller than him, corralling rebound after
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it a couple of times when the Pacers did a
really shoddy job of boxing out or not on free throws.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
But yeah, it's a fun ride as so long as
it lasts.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
And for me, as a guy that watched Thibodeau run
my squad in Chicago for years, it was always a
when do the wheels fall off?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
And usually the bike wasn't really well prepared.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
They didn't tighten the screws necessarily enough, so it fell
up part early.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
For you, you at least lived to see another day.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So Brunson makes the second free throw. It's one twenty one,
one seventeen, ten seconds left. Pacers will endbound ball and
try to get down for a bucket.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Maybe they go for a three. Maybe they don't.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Maybe they don't even have the basketball anymore.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Maybe they lost control. Don't yoa know, it's dribbling out
the clock.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Go new, your co new, your co new your coat,
Go new, your co new your coat, Go new, your
co new your coat.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Game one, game one, Game one, go game on, game one,
Go game on.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Are you saying, oh, no, come on, man, come on, no,
no no, But Stefan Marbury wasn't the game though, So
there it is.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Nickx win NIX win is.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
If you couldn't tell Nick win one twenty one, two,
one seventeen, you are so happy. Right now, you are
so unwidely happy. I'm so thrilled. Why can't you enjoy
my success? Why can't you enjoy my for your success?
Sure nothing to do with it, Sure it is.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Are you kidding? I made this happen? Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I bet? I said, Hey, Tips, just get rid of
all the other guys that are playing. Just play the
five guys. Okay, great, Hey, you know what, Listen when
Randall goes out, because eventually he will, well, we'll still
be fine. Just make sure you play all the Villanova
guys together at the same time.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
This is my success.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Oh, I mean you look, I heard on Friday you
were doing a big cell job to run Julius Randall
out of town, so you couldn't even let him enjoy
his status as one of the guys on the sidelines. Dude,
the first thing, Oh, it's ratted you out so fast.
The first yesterday morning, I was.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
On the first thing we did the final call of
the game, six of the Knicks. Six is when I yelled, oh,
by Joel Embiid. Unless you want to come play here,
we'll trade you Julie's Randall. I've always been above board
about trading Julius.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
No, that just been there.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
No, that's been there for a long time, the Randall
for Embian trade. You have done everything to speak and
do existence for as long as I've known you. No,
it's not a u an anti Smith rant. Although I'm
sure if I pulled up our Facebook page right now,
there's a couple of folks that are chiming in with
the go New York go respond your goat go now.
(11:55):
But again, I can't read those on air and keep
my job, so we'll leave that alone.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
No, I'm happy for you.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Look, one of us has to have success in this
sporting landscape eventually. I can't just go on Northwestern soccer
and lacrosse great success tournament.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
We got great.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Success in the in those programs, no question about it.
Baseball a little bit. I mean, there's there's other programs
that have had their their their moments. Football had a
nice year after some really bad administrative stuff. But we
get on down the line. Like my pro sports teams,
No White Sox, you know, win a series over the weekend.
(12:32):
I want to do get run out the gym by
the Rays. The Bulls eliminated a couple of bright spots
still playing games gone the future for the Blackhawks, right
with Connor Bodard, they won twenty three games.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah yeah, and the Bears.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Everybody's jumping on the bandwagon, which means it's gonna suck miserably.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Go New York, Go New York.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'll go New York, New York. Got listen. Let me
let me say this right, because we're talking about this
game a lot. Obviously we have tons of stuff with
the Brady Roast. Let me just say this, not all
game ones are created equal. This was a game coming
in the Pacers clearly had the game plan they wanted,
how they were going to try to disrupt the Knicks offensively,
what they're going to do to Jalen Brunson, how they're
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going to attack. TJ. McConnell was in Brunson's hip pocket
for the entire first half. The Pacers game plan tonight
was phenomenal, and there were times when they executed you
thought they're going to run away with this game. And
they're taking Game one just like they thought they were
going to, because look, Rick Carlisle's a great coach and
there's no way they're coming out of this thinking anything
but we're going to New York and we're taking game
one and this is going to be it. And they
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did everything they wanted to do in this game, everything
they wanted to do, and still Jalen Brunson goes for
forty and still the Knicks find away and win game one.
If you're the Pacers, you walk away going, what the hell, man?
We just did everything. They wouldn't die, They just wouldn't die.
We'd everything we want. Check the box, check the box,
check the box. And still you look down and Brunson's
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had an amazing game, and the Knicks win despite not
getting any points out of their guys off the bench,
and you're walking ahead, go everything was, everything was going
our way, and we lost this game. This has got
to be a huge just a just a huge deflation
for the Pacers after game.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, real quick, you established the pace you wanted to early, right,
Let's let's make them runs, let's make them work.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
We know they don't go very deep. And then you
had four created fourteen turnovers.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Pacers only turned the ball over seven times, although most
of them seemed to be in the final five minutes.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
They were. It was a lot of him Yeah, a
lot of sloppiness.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Down the stretch in terms, and it looked like there
was slickness on both ends of the court, like something
going on there, like guys were sliding.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
All over the plains. But hey, the Knicks survive Game one,
so there is the Knicks win Game one.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
The nightcap is just underway Minnesota in Denver, eight to
six Minnesota with the lead with about seven and a
half to go in in our quarter. Yes, because Tom
Brady got roasted. Coming up, we'll have more on Brady's roast,
what was great.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
And what really was kind of bad of it.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
That, plus a sports debate we haven't had in twenty
years is now back courtesy of the Nuggets and the
Tea Wolves.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Go New York, Go, New York Go. That's next rid
here Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called All Ball.
We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's
more about the stories about what made these people love
their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way.
We talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell
you stories.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
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Speaker 6 (15:47):
Listen to All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on the iHeartRadio app,
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Speaker 1 (15:55):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
live from the Tirac Dot Comm Studios. Uh, welcome back
to Major League Baseball Walker Bueler, and uh, goodbye, mister Spalding.
Miami with the two nothing lead over the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
The Dodgers come to bat in the bottom of the
first inning. Great return for Walker Buehler, but a little
bit of a rough start, which is to be expecting
considering he hasn't pitched its two thousand and four.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
It's really good to say you get that instant feedback
on your analysis of his return to the diamond too.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Well in the house, I mean you really got the
reaction justin we're looking.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
For Justin Frostburg gave me that reaction to the very much. Yeah,
it is good to see it back the knicker number one.
They are have to win in tonight. Go New York,
Go New York, goat go New.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
York, Go New York, the nixt wind. You have to
do that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The Knicks win the nixt win, next win, next win.
Take something for your headache, my friend, we got hours
out and do something. Takes take it, take it, take it,
take something.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I took the three minutes of Zen while you went
for a walk screaming go New York Go. I had
to walk away your negativity. Positive Monday. There's a lot
of goodness going on in the.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Sporting Let's get the Mike Harmon roast ready to go?
Uh wait, wait, wait, we get that going.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
It's a farse guy up there. I'll be the first
gupt there to roast you. Nothing is off limits. You
know many jokes that make about your brothers and what
they think they've stolen.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
It comes about my brothers.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I'm just assuming things based on movies and television shows.
I've watched it and may or may not have been
set in Chicago, or may have referenced Chicago in some way.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We got Jason locking for ready to stop buying a
couple minutes and obviously looked. The Brady roast on Netflix
was just outstanding. From Brady's response at the end, Bill
Belichick Bob Kraft, some of the great roasters who came
up there, and some of the bad ones Ben Affleck.
It was an incredible night to watch, and I cringe
(17:54):
and I left look roaster a lot of fun And
when roaster executed like that, they're the most fun thing
you could pops watch. And that's what we got last.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna time out, like
I watched it straight just to get after it, and
but I gotta go back and watch it again and
break it down for its component parts because I have
a couple of thoughts on how we really could have
made this a.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Lot lean or uh so, just really quick, want to let.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know that Walker Beehler will go back to the
mount in the second inning at least the tie game show.
Heo Tani has just hit a two run homer to
tie the game at two in the bottom of the
first But joining us now on the hot line, longtime
NFL insider, maybe he'll be a roast master at one
of our roast how about that? Check him out on
Odyssey Washington Post one O five seven the Fan in Baltimore.
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Jason locking for it, Jay, what's happening.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Bud gentlemen all got paid for that?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh maybe?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Or am I being naive? Is that way low? I
don't know. That's the figure that popped into my head.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And in a production deal, Well he have production deal,
whatever wants it doesn't I got a special for Netflix.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Oh we got it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Oh no, it had to be at least that it
had got to be. And Netflix wins because how many
people watch that. It was number one. People are talking
about it that the and Netflix needed a big hit,
like they needed something and all of a sudden they
got it. Yeah, I mean, look, this is perfect.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I don't know that they could have known that the
only Game seven in the NBA like on that day
was going to be two teams nobody cares about and
they were going to play at one o'clock in the afternoon,
you know what I mean? Like there was I mean,
if you're a hockey buff, right, I guess you had
a Game seven in the air in the evening there.
But like it was perfect, like a week solid week
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before the schedule comes out, Like really they found like
the perfect pocket for it.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's it's pretty crazy, yeah, because you and you had
the perfect person in Brady who had so much material
on him, and nobody held back and it was stuff
you can't believe. They they said, still, what happens in rows?
Are they going to go over this line? They do it?
It was it was the perfect storm. It was he
was the right guy, it was the right time, it
was the right people to walk. And I'll tell you,
I mean, I can't tell you how many times I
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had to pause it because I was laughing so hard,
had something I don't know, laughed wife.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Of like, what the hell did you watch down there?
Like I never hear you laugh like that. I'm like,
go back to sleep. Their roasting Tom Brady. You wouldn't care.
Like if you would have told me beforehand it was
going to be three hours and I was going to
watch all of it in real time, like not even
like pause it to like go take a leak, I'd
have been like, you're out of your mind. But that's
(20:28):
exactly what happened.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
What was your favorite part?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Was? What was your favorite piece? I don't even know,
I mean a favorite. First of all, you can't I
can't really say much of a year that's true, you know,
like to begin with, like, I mean, some of the
stuff that Edelman said some of the stuff that Gromp said,
(20:52):
everything that Nikki Glazer said, like, you know, I don't
know there was I mean, other than Haflec, other than
the two dudes who stood at the screen. I'm not
mister pop culture. I don't know who they are, Like
maybe they're normally really funny, Like, I don't know what
that was. Other than that, everything I thought was great.
(21:14):
You know, like Randy Moss wasn't as into it as
other people. You could tell he didn't really consult with
writers beforehand. I mean, if you're asking me to quibble,
it's pretty clear that Brady was like, everything's fair game
(21:36):
except for my old boss, right, I mean, the billionaire
was the guy who kind of made out the best,
because I can only imagine what was left on the
cutting room floor.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
About Robert Kraft well how eddied along the way, right,
because at the beginning, Brady tells Jeff Ross no on
the massage stuff and that one. It was kind of
they did a little bit from there to the end,
but I'm sure they cut back a lot on what
they did.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Very real to me, like that seemed like, dude, I
will punt you in the face, like you know, like
that didn't seem like jokey joky, that was like, hey,
this is your warning. But yeah, I felt I thought
it was great. I mean I was laughing my ass
off the whole way through.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Jason, I would say, the one thing I would do
for the editing is, all right, we got it.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Everybody thinks Gronk is dumb.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
We could have made that a nice, lean, two hours
a movie.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
But but I have to say it also did serve
as the perfect precursor to him going up there and
like you know what I mean, not being able to
read the telephone. That is true, you know what I mean,
So he didn't lean into it so well. And like
if he didn't spike the glass and everything, like I
might have problem with you. I would have been like, yeah,
if we're condensing it, like, yes, Kevin Hart is really small,
(22:48):
Gronk is not, you know, a mensa guy, Like yeah,
I think we all knew that going in, and certainly
they beat that to death. I mean the way they
went at.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Each other though, you know what I means that you thought.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Might have been forbidden, like tom plastic surgery, you know,
Alex Guerrero locker room talk about who might dabble with
whom in their spare time, like the airing of all
that in real time, I was, I like, yeah, other
than craft, I didn't feel like punches were.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Pulled, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And the funny thing is that my favorite line I
think was an ad lib because Belichick did have a
little bit trouble delivering like he had a tough Trump
beating prompt, like he stumbled over a couple of punchlines,
but I'm pretty sure he added them when he looked
at Bradyon's and see not too easy running the team,
is it Tom? And I was like, oh, And I
was like, that's something that he just said, Like, I
don't think that was on prompt because he had turned
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his head at that point, so I think he just
went not too easy to run the team?
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Is it Tom?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And that was I thought, Okay, this is when hey
knives are out.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Now we're gonna say it over and everybody's gonna have
no choice but to smile through this, because if you
don't smile, you look bad. And it's like they must
have wanted to kill each other after this roast.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well, and I mean as much as in their own way,
they kind of sort of poo poot it. The fact
that every patriot who got a mic in his hand
felt like he needed to touch on the Brady Belichick
relationship to some degree or another, I think tells you
just how frosty it was at the end, you know
what I mean. And I don't know that we needed
a whole lot of confirmation of that. Like, I think
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the reporting has been pretty strong, and I mean, like
anybody who can read people who can read body language,
you know, who just understands these egos, how monstrous these
egos can be when they accomplish with these guys accomplished.
But the fact that everybody kind of got their two
cents in on that and then and then in their
own way try to act like I'm just joking, Like no, Like,
(24:45):
it's pretty clear that a whole lot of fence mending
has had to try to go on, and let's face that,
a lot of it, you know, still needs to go on,
depending on how much they care about, you know, having
these relationships moving forward. But between Craft and Belichick, in
between Brady and Belichick, like, it's clear that everybody knew
(25:06):
that that was super frosty.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
At the end.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I did learn that the answer to everything in Kevin
Hart's world is hey, let's take a shot. But with
Brady's commentary, a lot of thought pieces in the overnight
Jason about the deflate gate and twenty million dollars and
everything else, and it's.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Like, oh, there was this admission.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'm like, I think he was saying, if you paid
me twenty million dollars, I'll say whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I want to hear. Yeah, yeah, No, I took it
more as that, not that he was admitting that he
I mean, even the way he framed it, which again
he was using the language directly from their own right,
you know, when they finally got around to like the
final version of this thing, you know, which it always
(25:50):
changes four or five times, Like go read the initial
crap they accused the Saints of, and then go read
what the former commissioner who they had to bring it
at the end to try to clean it up, like
go look at what Tagliabu actually was willing to say,
and then even half of what the league was a legend.
But that all gets lost in the lost right because
it's the league, yep. And they've got their partners in
(26:10):
the media, and they crammed their version down people's throats,
and by the time we get to whatever science actually
said or what a quasi independent party actually said, it
ends up being nothing like what was out there at first.
And you know, I think he was kind of well
not kind of him, and I think he was damning
them with their own language and basically saying, you guys
(26:31):
are idiots for wasting twenty million dollars to reach a
conclusion that you were going to reach.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
No matter what.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
You're right cling to that no matter what. So yeah,
give me the money.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Uh, you know, when it came down to it, Well,
you talk about who he disappointed. I was disappointed in
ben Affleck because he was just rambling and just like
what does he do?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
What is he up there for?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Fascinating?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Yeah, And I honestly.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I thought Peyton was going to be better at the end.
I thought his singers were going to be better. I
thought he was going to be a little bit sharper.
But I thought, like Peyton's kind of backing off a
little bit, like I just because you saved him for
the end and you didn't save Belichick for the end,
which was like, okay, he's a but you saved Peyton
for the end and I thought, yeah, Peyton was fine,
but I'm like, he's not in the top ten of
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people who went and wrote to them last night.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
My guess is that it became a time issue. You know,
like Shaud, you did hear them allude a couple times
to like, all of a sudden, in the final thirty minutes,
you started hearing people talk about, I have only so
much time. Was you know, I can't imagine trying to
budget with that many personalities and people who don't really
do TV, and you've got a two hour and fifty
five minute hard network out you know, in the close,
(27:38):
nobody cares about it until it's you know, it's fifteen
minutes left, and you know, Affleck's still rambling and it's like, well,
wait a minute, Brady's got to get at least five minutes.
My guess is that you talk to people in the
production crew that Peyton probably was told, you know what
I mean, was probably told, hey, this is what you got.
You know what I mean, We're going to read this
much in the prompter, and then you got to go
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because we're tight like and you know, we're gonna squeeze
other people. But Brady's got to at least get his
stuff in at the end. I'm guessing that there was
a fair amount left on the chopping room floor.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, I wait to see their first meeting when he
joins the Manning cast in the fall.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Here's all the stuff I left on the cutting room floor.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
So we have that, all right, So, Jason, the obvious
question becomes, they had great success with this, how do
you follow it up?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
And it's tough, Like I mean, you just think about
like all of the Tom Brady stuff that is unique
to him, all that winning, you know, the way it ended,
all the two different fricking gates, you know, the spy
gate and the deflate gate, like his celebrity buddies, you
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know what I mean, him being so Hollywood, him spending
half his career with a house in Malibu, or maybe
even more than half of his career, like the whole
TV twelve thing, Alex Grero, you know what I mean.
Like I'm just trying to think of his contemporaries like
Big Ben, I mean, yeah, especially if it's no holds
bart oh boy, oh my god. Like there's a lot
(29:11):
of meatle met bone, I mean, especially in the hands
of some of those comedians. But like Drew Brees. No,
you know what I mean, Like, I'm just thinking of guys.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I'll tell you, Jay, I think there's only two guys.
There's two guys you can roast like you roasted Braden
have this success when he's done. Lebron James and Aaron Rodgers.
Those are the two guys you can run. Those are
the only two. It's like, there's so much materials, so
many things you can get into, all kinds of crazy things.
I think those are the only two guys you can
look and say, this is the success we're gonna have,
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even Lebron.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Though I don't think it's to the extent of Brady,
you know what I mean, when's then you factor in
Gizell divorcing him and all that and picking football literally
over his family, Like I don't mean, I don't think
it rises to that level with Lebron. I mean, how
much can you get out of the decision and how
long was that? Think about how much of this stuff
was fresh, Like how much of this was breaking news,
(30:06):
even the waffling retirements, Like so much of this happened
in the last I don't know, twenty four and thirty
six months. I don't know I don't know, maybe it
to be hard to top this dude, It just it
really would like I don't I think it'd be pretty tough.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking For That is at
Jason lock and for. Check him out on Odyssey Washington
Post one O five seven the Fan in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Jay as always buddy appreciated.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
We'll talk to you next week. Maybe we'll roast you
at some point.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, I mean you can get it with solid twenty
five minutes. See.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
But hey, Jason, there goes Jason lock and for.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I mean, I think Rogers and Lebron, when you talk
about having the breadth of material that you can go
in so many different directions on, I think those are
the guys.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I don't think there's much to Lebron unless there's a
bunch that's just bubbling.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Under the surface.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
He gets coaches fired. Yeah, he moves.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Down to town. He had a a man purse at
one point. That's it, and that's become in vogue, so
that doesn't even count. Started with Joey Triviiani The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon live from
the tirec dot Com Studios. Yes, we'll have more on
the Knicks and the Pacers game one. But coming up
next a debate we used to have so much in sports,
(31:20):
haven't had it in about twenty years, but it looks
like we're gonna have it again after what happened.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Tonight in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (31:26):
We'll tell you next Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Hey, Jason, the Knicks one? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Very good?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Very good?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
That's nice.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Hey, how much do you love the Knicks? Okay, you
got that whiny guy singing to you. Now, everything's coming
up for you.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
There are like a very few songs from like the
vast barren wasteland of sports, which is the early aughts
that I just have such a guilty pledgere I listened
to all the time I'm in the car and saying,
this is one of.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Them, you know, Skater Boys another one. There's very few.
I'm like, oh no, no, no, this one, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Is this a song by the guys that did the
did Phineas and ferb This is a simple plan. Oh okay,
it's a simple plan because who were the other guys
that bowling for soup or something? Yeah, there was, But
there were so many bands in the aughts that sounded
just like I say, yeah, the whole thing. It's kind
of like listening to pop music now. Sure like, Wow,
I heard the one from new one from Dua Lipa. No,
(32:27):
that wasn't Dua Lipa. That was that insert h okay
that My daughter's.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Like, Dad, how dare you? I'll sound the same.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
We will have more on the Knicks and the Pacers
coming up in a few minutes, including the biggest coaching
move of the game that's not getting enough run. But uh,
maybe Minnesota doesn't need Rudy Gobert right now. They lead
Denver forty three twenty six, six and a half to
go in the second quarter. It has been all Tea,
(32:56):
Wolves and Yes playing without Rudy Gobert, who was favored
to be defensive player of the Year again probably for
the last time until Wemby starts winning a bunch o
congratulations weby on ye Yeah, let's go go. Bear, of
course missing the game tonight because his partner had a
baby this morning. Congratulations Rudy go Bear, congratulations, and his
partner Julia had a baby and he was not able
(33:18):
to make it to the game tonight because by the
time the baby came there was some weather involved apparently,
which you know, okay, they couldn't get him back in time.
And really, you heard Chris Finch say, Hey, I don't
know how ready he would have been to play anyway.
I'm sure he's up all night. You have the baby.
So they're playing without go Bear tonight. And it's a
big deal because, hey, you can go up to Zip
(33:40):
going home and maybe you can clinch this series, but
you have a kid. This was a debate that was
so hot and heavy, like twenty years ago when this happened,
when when like Sean Green was going to potentially miss
games for the Dodgers because of the Jewish holiday, or
a couple of players who were gonna miss games because
they were going to have a kid, And is that
something you can do? Is that? And it became this
(34:01):
whole huge deal And I'm glad that that so far,
this debate, we've not seen so many Rudy Gobert is
letting his teammates down. It's the worst thing in the world.
It's all of this because honestly, yeah, you have a kid,
and you have a kid, you stay with your kid.
It's gonna be a memory you have the rest of
your life. I still remember the day Zoe was born.
(34:22):
Do you remember they both your kids were born? If
you had done something else that day, what are you
gonna remember? Right? You can see the video of this
at any time you want to. It's what I did
second game of the series against Denver. Yes, it's a
big game. I completely understand it. But this is a
life thing. That's one of the two or three biggest
moments in your life. I mean, you're born, which is
your biggest moment. You married, you have kids, I mean nothing,
(34:44):
You may not have any of that. They just you know,
be born right, He made me born, were you're born,
taxes and done?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You're born right. That may be all you do. But
if you have those other stuffs, yeah, those aren't going
to want to have.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Your wedding is your super Bowl. Your kid being born
as your super Bowl, and that's something that you can't
be away from that. And and it was if it's
a case of listen, you're not you're you're playing.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
You wouldn't be able to play.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
We understand, I mean and I understand, and I see
the debate already, and I'm very happy that it hasn't
been and I'm sure we have to have to wake
till tomorrow and see how this game goes.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
It's he just ruined everything the Tea Wolves are looking for.
They just let the Nuggets go.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
When they don't get a big rebound down the stretch,
or you know, Jokic goes nuts because you didn't have
another guy to get after him defensively. Yeah, sure it's
gonna be there. It'll rear its head. You've seen a
couple of x NBA guys. I'm not going to give
their names any credit because all they do is hot
take nonsense and fire flares up into the sky.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
But you know, I look, both my.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Kids came in and they were not easy circumstances, either
of them, and I can't I couldn't have imagined missing
them now, given the job that I have. It wasn't
a playoff basketball game that was being decided right. It
was a hey, you know what, you'll get your column
in another eight hours or whatever, I get it, or
you know what, we need to move a video shoot
(36:00):
to day or I need to do it from you know,
outside of vending machine at a hospital.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
A little different circumstance. But yeah, there are very few.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Things in his life that that can ever come close
to those kind of moments now and the immediate thereaft.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And can you imagine someone that's going to depend on
you for life, that that you will love unconditionally? Can
you imagine that story the rest of life?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Hey? Where were you when I was born?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Dad? As a basketball game?
Speaker 5 (36:30):
And like it's from a movie, Well, I kind of were, Dad.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
You loved your sport more than me, And it's all
the sport that pays.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
For everything you will.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
That's exactly it. I've been paying for your ass for
eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
You're my eighteen years.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
You were at eighteen years I found down.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Well, hey, that's happened a few times along the way too, Dad.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
You were never there for me. Dad, Where were you?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Dad?
Speaker 5 (36:52):
You knew Yokich was going to roll over you guys?
Come on, man, name lost game one. I know all this, Dad,
come on? Day of my birth was a metaphor for light.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
You're never there.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I never backed me up, old man.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I knew Fincher was gonna put Karl Anthony Town's in
a better spot to that was the guy that needed
to step up.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
A little bit, do it?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Not? You? Dad? Not?
Speaker 5 (37:09):
You could have stayed where I was born to help Mom.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Could have done all that, Dad, child just the other day, Dad, I.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Know at this point, Anthony Everards is already Michael Jordan.
So stop trying to tell me nobody knew what he.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Was gonna be.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I understand that they didn't need you, Dad, Dad, you
were you know what, You're an added part. Dad. You
were at the end of your reign, a defensive player
of the year and one then the dad shoots back.
Your mom and I were just fine, and then you
were an ad on. Take Dad, what's a defensive player
that you're supposed to do. He's supposed to protect you,
protect You didn't protect me at all.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Dad slammed door and any.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
And that's what. Then you get the commercial like on
Netflix for like you know, Paxlova or something or whatever
it is.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Hey do you want to be able to run around
in a field and not worry about hey fever? Well
you need this.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Side effects include death, dismemberment, fingers may fall off, oh
and general ill health.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
But hey, you may be able to run around in
the field. This is awesome.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
I like the you know you you put everything, someone's
gonna love you unconditionally.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Like, I mean, that's that's the goal.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, that's we're hopen for many, many of those relationships.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Vult sure, I'm glad. I really want to see if
this becomes hot take theater, I really will. It would
be outstanding if.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Denver comes back from this nineteen point deficit and Jamal
Murray actually hits a shot.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
We'll have more on this game and of the biggest
NBA story of the night next nix Yo.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
I will say that real quick about the show. Heyani,
home run the deep center. Yeah, you will never hear
the crack of the bat that loud in your life.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
We'll play as soon as the games.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
I will say, baseball is so dumb that you can't
play a highlight during the game.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Still.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, it's a heavy crack of the bat like it
it's very never heard. Yeah, well you'd have to get
the highlight anyway.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
But the look there, Santa, you want to pay the
final hit play?
Speaker 5 (38:56):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
No, you pay because you're gonna pay that fine, not me.
I'm not, then don't play it for at Dodger highlight.
Let's just play it Rob Park. We'll just blame the fager.
We'll say the Saga needed it and he'm blamed to Saga.
That's fine, he got excited to hit an extra.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
Yeah, what do you think are we allowed to play
the crack of the bout?
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Is that that's not a considered a highlight?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Shaking his head going.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yes, it sounds like wood hitting anything, probably in the
dangerous territory.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
So since Steve said the play it, let's uh, let's
not be.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
So we'll have more on this game coming up. Meanwhile,
Rudy gober has got to be enjoying his night with
his child congratulations and watching the Minnesota Timberwolves have no
difficulty with the Nuggets in the first half. With a
minute to go before halftime, Minnesota leads Denver fifty six
to thirty three. It is an absolute implosion by the
(39:55):
Nuggets and the tea Wolves out here are boat racing Denver. Look,
we've heard Nicola Yokuld say this after game one. Hey,
and that was a really big statement. Hey, the t
Wolves know us, right, because how much do we always
talk about the NBA players are about matchups, right, they
are the Lakers. The Nuggets are a horrible matchup for them, obviously,
and it looks like the matchup with the Nuggets and
(40:16):
the Tea Wolves, this is not good for Denver. So,
I mean, he says, hey, they know us, they know us,
and when you hear they go, okay, they know us.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
We need to have a little bit more focus, a
little bit more energy.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
But when when he says something like that, that's like
a bit of a warning sign, going hey, maybe by
that he means, hey, we're in trouble here because they
don't fear us. We are a bad matchup for them,
and seeing how they are being able to just continue
to get better by leaps and bounds as this game
goes on. And I just watched the Nuggets have two
straight turnovers in a row with twenty nine seconds left
(40:46):
to go in the first half. It's now sixty one
thirty three Minnesota over Denver. I mean, you think this
series might be.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Over watching as it goes I mean, you talk about
roster construction.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
They know each other.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I think the more in telling Jokic quote after Game
one was the I need to clone myself in terms
of matching up with the height and depth of what
they have in Minnesota. And certainly you know we're missing
one of those elements tonight. But Tim Connelly was the
guy that helped construct what Denver became and now he's
(41:20):
running things in Minnesota. So saw the success, saw the
growth and depth there and said, oh and one on
the other side, and now you look at the Timberwolves
equip to give Denver everything they need. And look, we
joked about it before, but the reality is from a
(41:40):
just shot making standpoint, Jamal Murray has been invisible in
this game and he struggled outside of the game. Winners
against the Lakers don't need to revisit that series, But
outside of that, what do you shoot like thirty eight
percent in that series as a bad ankle that we've
talked about a bunch, but shooting, he's been off the mark.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
He's one for ten tonight. He's one for ten tonight,
and you've seen.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
A number of bad turnovers, bad rotations, and they're letting
them play physically, and that doesn't bode well for Denver
because you don't have you know, the size, you know
Gordon will get down into it.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
As well.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
But if you're not gonna get Jokics to the foul line,
he's and he's taking a beating like that.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
That adds up in a hurry.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
So right now, halftime sixty one thirty five, Minnesota the
lead over Denver. We we may get the t Woolves
and the Thunder in the Western Conference finals. Look out.
And if that happens, like we said last week, maybe
SGA and Anthony Edwards is the next great rivalry in
the NBA. What on that was the case? What what
if Edwards in XGA all the Yeah, we got Curry
(42:44):
and Lebron and now we're bringing in Wemby.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
We got better?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
No, No, what if Anthony Edwards an XGA was the
next big rival But the.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Worst of it is, you know, because we love to
do our comparisons and start attaching names to guys, how
many morphings of Edwards did you see into Michael Jordan
and big thought pieces and debates about Michael Jordan's Like,
we can't just let it be Anthony Edwards and a
guy in Minnesota and talk about Minnesota mattering for the
first time in the NBA sphere in a long time. No,
(43:11):
compare him to the greatest of all time. Let's get
the tongues wagon. Aaron Gordon leads the Nuggets with fifteen
first half points. Jokis just three of eight eight points.
On the other side, Towns with twenty, Edwards finishing strong
with sixteen.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Meanwhile, the game that everybody can't just get over because
it was so great.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Oh, I was going to say, I was hoping we'd
get a good game tonight. We did see a great
one earlier because we'd sure as held on that we
did that Cleveland game yesterday was yeah, yeah, because I
held of a game nobody watched.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
The Knicks beat the Pacers one twenty one to one seventeen.
They hold on at the end. Jalen Brunson with another
incredible game. He goes for forty three and six rebounds
as much as and you think about this for the Pacers, right,
because we'll get to the big coaching move in a
second that I want to spotlight is that you think
of this with pay You did everything you could to
slow him down, right. It felt like watching the game,
(44:05):
the Pacers were doing everything they wanted to do. They
had McConnell chasing Jalen Brunson, they were exhausting him. They
were making him work for every bucket he had, and
the guy had forty three. Like that's a Jordan Knight.
Fourth quarter was Jordan Knight. Yeah, I mean he. I
mean that's where you have to really understand that, Hey,
this is how deep the pacers are for all this,
all the pacers athletically, and the Knicks are playing five guys. Yeah,
(44:25):
I get it. They did everything they wanted to do
and still he goes for forty three.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I would also say this, I don't underestimate the guy
that doesn't look like he's in great shape because Jalen Brunson,
like folks will take their shots like, ah, he looks
short and stumpy whatever.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
He's basically Tony Gwinn Mike, but he's getting after it.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
I mean Tony Gwynn, who was a great point guard
before he became sure, before he became the greatest hitter.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
I've seen in my life.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Sure, but you look at Jaylen Bruns like, oh, we're
gonna tire him out cardio physically, there's no chance in help.
And then he's still running around guys in the fourth
quarters like damn it, I thought he'd fall.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
That's how Tim hasn't tired you out.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
No, that's right.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
Playing with that squad Timms.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Has him doing like Rocky four workouts with like in
the snow, carrying like all these big piles of shot.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Of the wood.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Now you have to carry the wood.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Get at the boulders, little wheelbarrow with Paulie in it.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Let's go, come Ony rock Pus Puss, Jalen Puss, Jalen Bred.
The pacers are on the treadmill getting shot up. But
that's how good they failed.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
That's how good the guy is. That's how good the
guy is. I mean, that's how good. Jalen been amazing
and he's become a cult hero.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
I just in New York, but all the folks, I've
never heard more people and then this is a testament
to him and what he's done this year.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
I've never heard more people in our business.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Say they were wrong about a guy like legitimately get
on their TV radio platforms and just say when he
got signed, I.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Didn't like the contract.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
I was wrong Because now they've watched him and let's
face it, because of the knicks you you were getting
them over the course of the year. As soon as
it was determined they were they were gonna be a
bit better than average in the Eastern Conference. That they
became a focal point. And so you got a lot
of oh case and point. Let's watch this performance and
(46:16):
what he's been doing in these playoffs thus far, absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I'd be really, I mean, we're gonna exhaust and we're
gonna make him work for all those points. And now
it's like, crap, Now, what the hell do we do
because we just did this game one and he torched us.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
We couldn't even get into their bench like we could.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I think if guys fouled out, Tims is gonna leave
four guys on the floor.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
My team's on the court.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yeah, I mean, oh man, oh man, that sucks it
hard is not fouled out?
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Oh nobody else is coming in. Now we're going with
those far And you used three guys off the bench.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Robinson played twelve minutes, took a shot, you had McBride
come in, he played eleven minutes. Again, the total played
there were at no point did it seemed they were
out there that long. I thought it was they're out
there and there was a click, So they must have
like subbed in for eight seconds at a time. But
you get one for three between them, and then precious
(47:08):
at Chew I hit one of two free throws, so
you had to combine three points off the bench.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
On the court.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
He was what he was on the court, but he
was there, and Marbury was there. Yeah, they were all
there trying to get, trying to get. He was holding
some guy up. I didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
Steve Cohen got so much airtime.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
He's sitting in the jack seats for the next like,
Steve Cohen is there.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Oh, stop, they keep showing you for he keeps wearing
the set.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Dude. The dude is worth like thirty billion dollars. Okay,
owns the mets is He's worth thirty billion dollars free
he I think he makes five hundred million dollars a month.
I think that's what his business is. That's what he
makes a month, five hundred million dollars. Yes, exactly, because
you and JJ Abrams. But look, let me just talk
about this because we talk about coaching moves. And for
(47:56):
most of the first half I said, Wow, Rick Carlisle
really has the advantage here, because again, the Pacers did
what they wanted to do. They had the pace of
the game being what they wanted. They were going up
and down the floor, they were getting easy baskets, they
were making the Knicks work offensively, and they were trying
to exhaust Jalen Brunson. Right, they did everything they wanted
to do, and I said, wow, they have to find
some way to figure things out at halftime. And then
(48:17):
middle of the third quarter, it's a it's a it's
like a one point game, and there's a foul call
that looked like it was questionable that sent Pascal Siakam
to the line, and it looked like something you could challenge,
but Tims was like, no, I'm not going to challenge it.
He wound up missing both three throws anyway, and I'm like, oh, okay,
and I'm sitting there going, yeah, you want to save
(48:37):
that challenge for some time later on. It's a basket
in the third quarter, it's a one point game. What
are you really doing? But at that point, the Knicks
were kind of struggling a little bit, and I was like, ah,
maybe you could have done it, but okay, I get it.
And then two minutes later, Brunson goes up and blocks
Miles Turner. Right, you know, you know, four foot one
Jalen Brunson goes up and blocks nine foot tall Miles
Turner and the ball goes The ball gets deflected to
(48:59):
the to the Knicks, who keep possession. They call a foul.
This is the play that Tibbs challenges and I'm like, okay, wow, okay, wow,
we didn't use it a couple minutes ago. Now we're
using that okay. And it comes back and saying yep,
no foul on Brunson. Knicks retained possession. And that was
such a great decision because that play was an energetic play,
Like that bump put life back in the garden because
(49:22):
here's Brunson, you know, you know, only at six '
three is blocking Miles turn which he should never be
able to do. And the fact that your best player,
you now got the ball and it was a tie
game at that point. You now got the ball and
no foul, and the Knicks went on a run and
went up by six and the Pacers had to come
back and became a tie game going to the fourth quarter.
(49:43):
Like that was such a great decision because at that
point the Knicks needed something that even though it was
a one point game, they didn't have a lot of energy.
Not a lot going on, but here's a very emotional play.
I take that chance and it gets overturned and the
Knicks going go on a run and it was their
biggest lead they had in the game up until that.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Okay, Now take your had off for a moment. Okay,
and be a realist and actually watch this. There's no
chance in hell that should have been reversed. Jumps into
his body. Yeah, but he got all ball, nobody he
got all of him, but he got off his blood.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
Now, when we had a rock suck robot, his neck
would have been flying on us.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
What Turner needed to do was he needed to move
to sell that, and he didn't like that.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
He went like a guy that got No.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
He didn't do it until after the ball had already
come down. Like if he wants to sell, he needed
to sell that that there was more contact. If he
sold that more but I think he would. But I
think he was surprised obviously that that Brunson came from
you know, came from behind to get it. If he
goes down, if he doesn't, if he if he gets
that contact, knows the ball's not going in and immediately
(50:52):
goes to the ground. I don't think that call gets reversed,
but he's able to keep his His.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
Is how do you reverse him with that amount of
contact that knocks him the way he does?
Speaker 5 (51:03):
How do you reverse it?
Speaker 4 (51:03):
I understand if you didn't call the fall, how you
can then say no, no, no, we challenge if you're Rick
Carlyle and and and they they flip into a fall,
but going the.
Speaker 5 (51:13):
Other way like there's too much contact. Yeah, it was
a tough one to overturn.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
It was ridiculous between that the kickball that wasn't a kickball,
the there.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Was me just just kick it doesn't mean it's not
a kickball.
Speaker 5 (51:28):
Screen.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Let's go through all the nurse Now, forget about the
times that the Knicks lost the ball and they gave
it to the Pacers in the last couple of minutes too,
that happened. Don't at times?
Speaker 5 (51:36):
Oh no, just so once where the Pacers lose it.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Okay, I got it. They took the game from them.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
Yes, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Well, you tried telling me that Jalen Bronson was had
air when they threw the ball and it bounced up
off a bounce.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
Well it looked like he didn't. It looked like he
was already out, but apparently wasn't. So bounce.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah, but but when you're out of bounds, you're out
of bounce, you're at a bound, you're at a boun
you're standing at a bund, you're standing out of bounce,
you out of bounds, Well hits you. It's it's off
the guy that threw it out of bounce. But it
looked like he hit the ground, which means okay, but
they said was in the air. Okay, didn't look like
it to me, But okay. They get the pacers ball,
got the ball back there. You were fine, get the
ball back, did everything you.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
Needed anyway, The end game is that you put up
Hail Mary and you got it completed on a reversal
that shouldn't have been a reversal.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
And it was a huge They would they wouldn't have
called for it if they didn't think they were going
to get it. The Knicks aren't going to do that
in the late late stage of the third quarter unless
they knew they were going to get it.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
So they knew something they ever made it was home cooking.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
They ever replayed Guru who knows like the Knicks do
great challenging, like the TIBs is Tibbs Is percentage of
challenging of calls is really big, and they have a
guru that like, hey, when when I say this, you
challenge it because.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
You're gonna have to look at the pool report because
someone had to have asked them about this.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
I'm gonna say, we robbed the Pacers shop.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
You guys, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (52:59):
I'm sorry to neither your team's are in the play.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
No no, but no, no, no, but literally you you
brought this play up like it was just a play
in the game on a grand scale, and I brought
it up as the huge play to florm stuff that did.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
And I'm going to tell you they got it wrong.
Well again, they went back and looked at it. Okay,
so the Knicks saw it and said they would get it.
They went back and looked at it, and then still
and then still they got it wrong. Okay, all right,
just want to see where you're at with it. Okay,
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