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May 7, 2024 38 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon explain why not all Playoff Game 1's are created equal. And NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the show to recap the best moments from the Tom Brady Roast.

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Speaker 4 (00:49):
Well. Here we are.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Thirty seconds to go, Nicks Pacers Game one. Dante DiVincenzo
with a three to give the Knicks a three point lead.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Madison Square Garden erupted.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Even Steve Cohen was standing going nuts, but Pascal Siakam
has considered, as in the meantime, gone in for a
layup to cut the lead to one one to eighteen
one seventeen Knicks to the lead over Indiana, and now
I think they're gonna look at this play that just happened.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
They have been trying to deny the inbounds to Jalen
Brunson for the last couple of minutes in their two
minute defense, and it looked like Brunson may have just
lost the handle and the ball goes out of bounds.
Not sure if it went off of Haliburton waiting to see.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Looks like it might have gone office. It looks like
it went off his foot. So they're gonna look at it.
Depending on what kind of angle they have, this is
either going to go back to the Knicks or the
Pacers will have a chance to take the lead with
about twenty six seconds left to go. Look, this game
has been so much fun, all right. Every time it
looked like the Pacers were gonna put the Knicks away,

(01:57):
the Knicks find a way to get back in it.
The knickser exhausted, they're playing with five guys. I mean
they put their they put their backups in. You know,
you got a little bit of Mitchell Robinson, a little
bit of Duce McBride for a couple of minutes in
the first half, the lead evaporated and there's been almost
no changes ever since Brunson came out for about eight
seconds at the end of the third quarter. But the

(02:17):
Knicks are trying to desperately hang on with five guys.
The Pacers, they've been trying to run all over New
York tonight and keep them running across the floor, the
running double triple screens regularly on offense, and the Pacers
defensively clearly have the right game plan for the Knicks.
But every time you think you kill the Knicks, they
just know you are not. We are getting up. It's

(02:38):
like Michael Myers or Jason at the end. Nope, I'm
gonna get back up. But I just chopped your head
off and your arms. Nope, gonna get back up. That
to this game has been This game has been so
much fun, just a flesh wound.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Over the last three what forty five it's like a
fourteen to eight Nick scoring advantage, fast paced. It really
comes to get you when you look at the schedule
going ahead, because you don't get a lot of day
is off in this round, and you do actually have
back to bats next Sunday and Monday, right, No, it's insane.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
That's not looking good for the Knicks.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
However, if you were to tell me that Robinson and
McBride each played at least ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
I would have called you a lot. Yeah, yeah, I'm
a lot. No, that's what I mean. Like you look
at the boxer. I was like, wait, he was out
there for ten minutes. No, it couldn't have been.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
But yeah, a total of three points, one of them
coming from precious Atchua off the bench. He has four
minutes playing. That's Foreau.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
He's actually played well. But now somehow he's not in
the rotation. Like, I only trust guys from Villanova and
OG and Hartenstein.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
That's it. The only guys I trust that. That's it.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Everybody else is coming off the floor. So they gave
the ball back to the Knicks with twenty seconds left
to go, and they retained possession balls out of bounds
with about eighteen seconds left to go. So there'll be
a timeout on the floor here while they check and
see who the ball goes out of bounds. You know,
none of this matter, you know it matters. Tom Brady

(04:01):
got roasted, man, No, Tom Brady got roasted in it
was awesome. We will get to Tom Brady. It's a billion.
But this is the last few seconds of the Knicks
game here, and I think this is gonna go.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Oh, that's tough to see. He's standing out.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
He's standing, so it doesn't matter he's out of bounds
if he's if he's standing out of bounds, it's out
of bounds. So I think what they're looking at to
see if Brunson was in the air because Brunson tried
to throw the.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
You know they gave it to the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh my god, that was pretty clear.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
Sorry, buddy, he got all all came in and he was.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Marv Albert offensive foul.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Miles Turner on the illegal screen, a sensational play by
Dante DiVincenzo.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Time out, Pacers, they want to talk it over now
you're silent, though.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
I want to just see the replay of how soft
to call they were gonna make twelve seconds.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Myles Turner goes and steps. Doesn't really set he took
that extra Come on, he's just a worrying about it.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
No, come on, he was just complaining about it flop
twenty seconds prior.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Okay, and now he's crying he gets that call. If Turner.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
If Turner goes in and now they're gonna stop and
watch another.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
Bye by technic technically, yes, I would agree with you.
With twelve seconds left in a game, you're gonna call that.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Because we never saw that before in the NBA tournament
help Caitlin Clark. No, but look, but the thing is Turner,
if he stops, he's fine, but he takes that extra step.
And I think that's what got the whistle. Now obviously
they just look at this to see if to go
over this again.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
I just like that.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
It's a guy that legitimately moments before was crying about
a flop call, he got called for one on the
other end, and then you you actually get this call
like you were screaming at the official end.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
I don't think you could say it. I mean, I
don't think I couldn't keep our jobs insane nor well,
but that's just it. I'd like to keep my job.
I was not part of the roast.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
But it was funny he was because when you came in,
you you started screaming and hollering immediately, and you looked
at me and goes, what's what's going on?

Speaker 4 (05:59):
My dude? You're a little much and it's like I'm
going on the game. Sorry, you're screaming like a luna.
You can hear me first words flying everywhere. I mean,
it's a working what is what is different? We've been
going together for ten years.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I'm excited my team is playing in a game that
I'm sorry your teams don't playing games that matter. I'm
sorry you sitting and watching White Sox professional.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Really, I also have the worst headache. I think I've
about a decade. I keep telling the last thing. I
keep telling you coming.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
I'm screaming like a lunatic.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I keep telling you to take something, and you try.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
To tell you she'd stop believing in these guys. I
wish I could.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I wish I could take something to walk away from
my teams. But I can't take something. You take something
and take whatever you need to take. I mean, this
is the playoffs, man, you I mean you gotta you
gotta get going here. This is a big deal. People
are nicked up and you gotta play. This is the
playoffs of this matters though?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Right?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Why does not have it matter? Frostburg Brady got roasted.
I know Tom Brady got rolled. We'll get to Tom
Brady getting roused. There's twelve seconds left in the game.
Anybody cares the.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Game? Dude, dude, this is what's going on. Man, this
is it. This is the biggest story in the world.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like in France and Austria and Greenland, they're watching the
Knicks and the Pacers right now.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
This game is not even on True TV. They think
it's nineteen You have the bet cast on True TV.
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Lots of people like that one. The Pacers, lots of
people like that one. So with twelve seconds left, the
Knicks got a got a deliberate foul call, Jalen Brunston
hits a free throw. They retain possession. One nineteen one seventeen,
twelve seconds left to go. Brunton with the ball. He
has fouled from behind. It's a pretty big push by Halliburton,
so he's gonna go to the free throw line with

(07:39):
ten seconds left, with a chance to make this a
two score game for the Knicks. And look, I'll be
the first guy to tell you. I mean, I don't
know how this is gonna go. That's that's a pretty
cheap foul from behind, that push. I don't know how
this is gonna go. Do whatever series is, and whatever
the series is gonna be, I have no idea how
long the Knicks can keep up for. But you know what,

(08:01):
that's part of the fun, because really, you said they're
playing with five guys. I tweeted out after the first quarter,
all the Knick star is gonna play forty five minutes tonight,
Like they're all gonna play forty five minutes, And I like, how.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Long can you keep it up?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
You got this round and if you make it then
you probably have the Celtics. I mean, how long can
you keep that up for? How long can you play
like this? But however long this goes, this is like
a magic carpet ride, man. So I'm just it's just
easy to enjoy. And whenever the wheels come off that
because you can tell this is good. This is the
next thing where the wheels are gonna come off at
some point. But man, I'll tell you what, this is
just out unbelievably outstanding. Nix with a one twenty one

(08:36):
to seventeen lead over the Pacers. Brunsons made another free
throw with ten seconds left to go. I do enjoy
the call of deliberate foul? Is it isn't that what
we've been doing in the NBA forever down the stretch
when you know, do a take foul and either you
know you're in the bonus or you're not. Not hey,
you get a shot and the ball. Like, it's pretty
clear that's always been the strategy, So why is that

(09:00):
suddenly different?

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Now?

Speaker 6 (09:01):
That's all I need to ask about that. But to
your point about the Knicks and the way this squad plays, yeah,
they're likable, they get after it, Josh Hart, I mean
they were doing the giant marveling at his rebounding skill
and acumen as he found his way into the lane
against guys six inches taller than him. Uh gret corraling

(09:22):
rebound after a couple of times when the Pacers did
a really shoddy job of boxing out or not on
free throws. But yeah, it's a fun ride so long
as it lasts. And for me, as a guy that
watched Thibodeau run my squad in Chicago for years, it
was always a when do the wheels fall off? And
usually the bike wasn't really well prepared. They didn't tighten

(09:45):
the screws necessarily enough, so it fell up part early.
For you, you at least lived to see another day.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
So Brunson makes the second free throw. It's one twenty one,
one seventeen, ten seconds left. Pacers will inbound the ball
and try to get down for a bucket. Maybe they
go for three. Maybe they don't.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Maybe they don't even have the basketball anymore. Maybe they
lost control and don't Ye don know me. It's dribbling
out the clock.

Speaker 7 (10:09):
Go new, your co New, yourk CO new your goat,
Go new, your co new your coat, Go new, yourk
CO New York Goat Game one game one game one,
Go game one game one, Go game one.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Are you saying, oh, no, come on, man, come on, no, no, no,
But it's the fun Marbury wasn't the game though, So
there it is.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Nix win.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Nix win is if you couldn't tell Nicks win one
twenty one, two one seventeen. You are so happy right now,
you are so unlidly happy. I'm so thrilled. Why can't
you enjoy my success? Why can't you enjoy my your success?
Sure nothing to do with it?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Sure it is?

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Are you kidding? I made this happen? Are you kidding?
I bet?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I said, Hey, Tips, just get rid of all the
other guys. That are playing. Just play the five guys. Okay, great, Hey,
you know what, Listen when Randall goes out, because eventually
he will, we'll still be fine. Just make sure you
play all the Villanova guys together at the same time.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
This is my success.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Oh, I mean you look, I heard on Friday you
were doing a big cell job to run Julius Randall
out of town, so you couldn't even let him enjoy
his status as one of the guys on the sidelines. Dude,
The first thing why College ratted you out so fast?
The first yesterday morning, I was over the first.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Thing we did with the final call of the game,
six of the Knicks sixers when I yelled, oh, by
Joel embiid unless you want to come play here, we'll
trade you, Julius Randall. I've always been above board about
trading Julius. No, that's just been there.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
No, that's been there for a long time, the Randall
for Embian trade. You have done everything to speak and
do existence for as long as I've known you. No,
it's not a uh an anti Smith rant. Although I'm
sure if I pulled up our Facebook page right now,
there's a couple of folks that are chiming in with
the go New York Go respond.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
But again, I can't read those on air and keep
my job, so.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
We'll leave that alone. No, I'm happy for you. Look,
one of us has to have success in this boarding
landscape eventually.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
I can't just go on Northwestern soccer and lacrosse.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
Great success tournament, Yeah, great success in the in those programs,
no question about it.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Baseball a little bit.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
I mean there's there's other programs that have had their
their their moments. Football had a nice year after some
really bad administrative stuff.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
But we get on down the line. Like my pro
sports teams.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
No White Sox, you know, win a series over the weekend,
and I want to do get run out the gym
by the Rays. The Bulls eliminated a couple of bright
spots still playing games gone the future. For the Blackhawks,
right with Connor Bodard, they won twenty three games.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah yeah, and the Bears.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Everybody's jumping on the bandwagon, which means it's gonna suck miserably.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Go New York, Go New, You go New York New
your got list. Let me let me say this right,
because we're talking about this game a lot, obviously, we
have tons of stuff with the Brady Roast. Let me
just say this, not all game ones are created equal.
This was a game coming in the Pacers clearly had
the game plan they wanted. How they were gonna try
to disrupt the Knicks offensively, what they're gonna do to

(13:12):
Jalen Brunson, how they're gonna attack.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
TJ.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
McConnell was in Brunson's hip pocket for the entire first half.
The Pacers game plan tonight was phenomenal, and there were
times when they executed you thought they're gonna run away
with this game, and they're taking game one just like
they thought they were going to, because look, Rick Carlisle's
a great coach, and there's no way they're coming out
of this thinking anything, but we're going to New York
and we're taking game one, and this is gonna be it.
And they did everything they wanted to do in this game,

(13:36):
everything they want to do, and still Jalen Brunson goes
for forty and still the Knicks find away and win
game one. If you're the Pacers, you walk away going
what the hell?

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Man?

Speaker 1 (13:45):
We just did everything. They wouldn't die. They just wouldn't die.
We'd everything we want, check the box, check the box,
check the box, and still you look down and Brunton's
had an amazing game and the Knicks win despite not
getting any points out of their guys off the bench
and you're walking out going everything was, everything was going
our way and we lost this game. This has gotta
be a huge just a just a huge deflation for

(14:08):
the Pacers after game.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah, real quick, you established the pace you wanted to early, right,
Let's let's make them runs, let's make them work. We
know they don't go very deep. And then you had
four created fourteen turnovers. Pacers only turned the ball over
seven times, although most of them seemed to be in
the final five minutes.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, there were It was a lot of game yeah,
a lot of.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
Sloppiness down the stretch in terms, and it looked like
there was slickness on both ends of the court, like
something going on there, like guys are sliding.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
All over the place.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
But hey, the Knicks survive Game one, so there is
the Knicks win Game one. The nightcap is just underway
Minnesota in Denver, eight to six Minnesota with the lead
with about seven and a half.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
To go in quarter.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yes, because Tom Brady got roasted. Coming up, we'll have
more on Brady's roast, what was great and what really
was kind of bad of it. That, plus a sports
debate we haven't had in twenty years, is now back
courtesy of the Nuggets and the Tea Wolves.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Go New York, Go, New York Go.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
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Speaker 3 (15:12):
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Speaker 1 (15:55):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the
Tirak dot Com Studios. UH Welcome back to Major League Baseball,
Walker Buehler and uh, goodbye, mister Spalding.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Miami with the two nothing lead over the Dodgers. Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
The Dodgers come to bat in the bottom of the
first inning. Great return for Walker Buehler, but a little
bit of a rough start, which is to be expected
considering he hasn't pitched its two thousand and four.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
It's really good to see you get that instant feedback
on your analysis of his return to the Diamond too.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah. Well in the house, I mean you really got
the reaction just we're looking for.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Justin Frostburg gave me that reaction to the beginning very much. Yeah,
it is good to see him. The NIXT number one.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
They don't have to win in tonight. Go New York,
Go New York. Goat go New York, Go New York.
The NIXT win. You have to do that.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
The Knicks win the NIXT win, next win, next win.
Take something for your headache, my friend, we got half
hours out. Something takes on. Take it, take it, take
it takes something.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
I took the three minutes of Zen while you went
for a walk screaming go New York Go.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I had to walk away through your negativity.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
Man Monday there's a lot of goodness going on in
the sporting universe.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Let's get the Mike Harmon roast Ready to go? Uh wait, wait,
we get that going. It's a Fars guy up there.
I'll be the first gut there to roast you. Nothing
is off limits. You know how many jokes that make
about your brothers and what they think they've stolen.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
It comes about my brothers.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
I'm just assuming things based on movies and television shows
I've watched that may or may not have been set
in Chicago or may have referenced Chicago in some way.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
We got Jason locking for Ready to Stop Buying a
couple minutes and obviously looked. The Brady roast on Netflix
was just outstanding. From Brady's response at the end, Bill Belichick,
Bob Kraft, some of the great roasters who came up there,
and some of the bad ones, Pen Affleck, it was
an incredible night to watch, and I cringe and.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I left look.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Roaster a lot of fun And when Roaster executed like that,
they're the most fun thing you could possibly watch.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
And that's what we got.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna time out, like
I watched it straight just to get after it. And
but I I gotta go back and watch it again
and break it down for its component parts, because I
have a couple of thoughts on how we really could
have made this a lot leaner an event.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Uh uh So, just really quick, want to let you
know that Walker Buehler will go back to the man
in the second inning at least of the tie game.
Show Heo Tani has just hit a two run homer
to tie the game at two in the bottom of
the first But joining us now on the hot line,
longtime NFL insider, Maybe he'll be a roast master at
one of our roast how about that? Check him out

(18:34):
on Odyssey Washington Post one oh five to seven the
fan in Baltimore. Jason locking for it? Jay, what's happening?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Bud going on? Gentlemen? Think Tom Brady got paid for that?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Oh maybe ten?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Am I being naive? Is that way low? I don't know.
That's the figure that popped into my head.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
And in a production deal, Well he had a production deal.
Whatever wants it, doesn't know. Hey, I got a special
for Netflix? Oh great, we got it. Odo had to
be at least that it had gonna be and Netflix
wins because how many people watch that.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
It was number one.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
People are talking about it that the and Netflix needed
a big hit, like they needed something and all of
a sudden they got it.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah. I mean, look, this is the timing was perfect. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I don't know that they could have known that the
only game seven in the NBA like on that day
was going to be two teams nobody cares about and
they were going to play at one o'clock in the afternoon,
you know what I mean, Like there was I mean,
if you're a hockey buff, right, I guess you had
a Game seven in the air in the evening there.
But like it was perfect, like a week solid week

(19:35):
before the schedule comes out, Like really, they they found
like the perfect pocket for it.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
It's it's pretty crazy, yeah, because you and you had
the perfect person in Brady who had so much material
on him and nobody held back and it was stuff
you can't believe. They they said, it's still what happens
in rows? Are they going to go over this line?

Speaker 4 (19:52):
They do it.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
It was it was the perfect storm. It was it
was he was the right guy, it was the right time,
It was the right people to watch and I'll tell you.
I mean, and I can't tell you how many times
I had to pause it because I was laughing so
hard at something.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I don't know if I laughed a wife like what
the hell are you watching down there? Like I never
hear you laugh like that. I'm like, there, go back
to sleep, their roasting, Tombrady, you wouldn't care. Like if
you would have told me beforehand it was gonna be
three hours and I was going to watch all of
it in real time, like not even like pause it
to like go take a leak, i'd have been like,

(20:25):
you're out of your mind. But that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
What was your favorite part?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Was?

Speaker 4 (20:29):
What was your favorite?

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I don't even know I mean favorite. First of all,
you can't I can't really say much of it here,
you know, like to begin with, like, I don't I
mean some of the stuff that Edelman said, some of
the stuff that Gronk said, everything that Nikki Glazer said,

(20:53):
Like you know, I don't know there was I mean, jeez,
other than Affleck, other than the two dudes who stood
at the screen, I'm not mister pop culture. I don't
know who they are, Like maybe they're normally really funny, Like,
I don't know what that wasnt. Everything I thought was great.
You know, like Randy Moss wasn't as into it as

(21:14):
other people. You could tell if he didn't really consult
with writers beforehand. I mean, if you're asking me to quibble,
it's pretty clear that Brady was like, everything's fair game
except for my old boss, right, I mean, the billionaire

(21:38):
was the guy who kind of made out the best,
because I can only imagine what was left on the
cutting room floor about Robert.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Kraft Eddie along the way, right, because at the beginning,
Brady tells Jeff Ross no on the massage stuff and
that one. It was kind of they did a little
bit from there to the end, but I'm sure they
cut back a lot on what they did.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
You're very real to me, like that seemed like, dude,
I will punt you in the face, like, you know,
like that didn't seem like jokey joky. That was like, hey,
this is your warning. But yeah, I thought I thought
it was great. I mean I was laughing my ass
off the whole way through.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
Jason, I would say, the one thing I would do
for the editing is all right, we got it.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Everybody thinks Gronk is dumb.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
We could have made that a nice lean two hours
like a movie.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
But but I have to say it also did serve
as the perfect precursor to him going up there and like,
you know what I mean, not being able to read
the tele.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
That is true, you know what I mean, if he.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Didn't lean into it so well, and like if he
didn't spike the glass and everything, like I might have
problem with you. I would have been like, yeah, if
we're condensing it, like, yes, Kevin Hart is really small,
Gronk is not, you know, a mensa guy, Like yeah,
I think we all knew that going in, and certainly
they beat that to death. I mean the way they

(22:56):
went at each other though you know what that you
thought have been forbidden, like tom plastic surgery, you know,
Alex Guerrero, locker room talk about who might dabble with
whom in their spare time, like the airing of all
that in real time. I was I like, yeah, other

(23:18):
than craft, I didn't feel like punches were pulled, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
And the funny thing is that my favorite line I
think was an ad lib because Belichick did have a
little bit trouble delivering, like he had a tough Trump
beating prompt, like he stumbled over a couple of his punchlines,
but I'm pretty sure he added them when he looked
at Brady and said, see, not too easy running the team,
is it Tom? And I was like, oh, And I
was like, that's something that he just said, Like, I
don't think that was on prompt because he had turned

(23:42):
his head at that point, so I think he just
went not too easy running the team? Is it Tom?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Like?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
And that was I thought, Okay, this is when hey
knives are out. Now we're gonna say it over and
everybody's gonna have no choice but to smile through this,
because if you don't smile, you look bad. And it's
like they must have wanted to kill each other after
this roast.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, and I mean as much is in their own way,
they kind of sort of poo poot it. The fact
that every Patriot who got a mic in his hand
felt like he needed to touch on the Brady Belichick
relationship to some degree or another, I think tells you
just how frosty it was at the end, you know
what I mean. And I don't know that we needed
a whole lot of confirmation of that. Like, I think

(24:19):
the reporting has been pretty strong, and I mean, like
anybody who can read people who can read body language,
you know, who just understands these egos, how monstrous these
egos can be when they accomplish with these guys accomplished.
But the fact that everybody kind of got the two
cents in on that and then and then in their
own way try to act like I'm just joking, like no, Like,

(24:44):
it's pretty clear that a whole lot of fence mending,
you know, has had to try to go on, and
let's face that a lot of it, you know, still
needs to go on, depending on how much they care about,
you know, having these relationships moving forward. But between Craft
and Belichick, in between Brady Belichick, like, it's clear that
everybody knew that that was super frosty.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
At the end, I did learn that the answer to
everything in Kevin Hart's world is, hey, let's take a shot.
But with Brady's commentary, a lot of thought pieces in
the overnight Jason about the deflate gate and twenty million
dollars and everything else, and it's like.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Oh, there was this admission.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
I'm like, I think he was saying, if you paid me,
twenty million dollars.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
I'll say whatever you want, what I want to hear.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, yeah, No, I took it more as that, not
that he was admitting that he I mean even the
way he framed it, which again he was using the
language directly from.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Their own that's right.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
You know, when they finally got around to like the
final version of this thing, you know, which it always
changes four or five times, like go read the initial
crap they a chuse the saints of and then go
read what the former commissioner who they had to bring
it at the end to try to clean it up,
like go look at what Tagliabu actually was willing to say,
and then even half of what the League was alleging.

(26:04):
But that all gets lost in the wash, right because
it's the League, yep, and they've got their partners in
the media, and they cram their version down people's throats,
and by the time we get to whatever science actually
said or what a quasi independent party actually said, it
ends up being nothing like what was out there at first.
And you know, I think he was kind of well

(26:24):
not kind of im and I think he was damning
them with their own language and basically saying, you guys
are idiots for wasting twenty million dollars to reach a
conclusion that you were going to reach no matter what,
you know, right, kind of cling to that no matter what.
So yeah, give me the money.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Uh, you know, when it came down to it, what
you talk about who he disappointed? I was disappointed in
ben Affleck because he was just rambling and just like,
what does he do?

Speaker 4 (26:48):
What is he up there for?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Fascinating?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, And I honestly I thought Peyton was going to
be better at the end. I thought his singers were
going to be better. I thought he was going to
be a little bit sharper. But I felt like, uh,
Peyton's kind of backing off a little bit, Like I
I just because you save him for the end and
you didn't save Belichick for the end, which was like, okay,
he's a but you saved Peyton for the end, And
I thought, yeah, Peyton was fine, but I'm like, he's

(27:10):
not in the top ten of people who went and
rose to them last night.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
My guess is that it became a time issue, you know,
like because you did hear them allude a couple times
to like all of a sudden in the final thirty
minutes you started hearing people talk about I have only
so much time. Was you know, I can't imagine trying
to budget with that many personalities and people who don't
really do TV, and you've got a two hour and
fifty five minute hard network out. You know, in the close,

(27:36):
nobody cares about it until it's too you know, it's
fifteen minutes left, and you know, Athlet's still rambling, and
it's like, well, wait a minute, Brady's got to get
at least five minutes. My guess is if you talk
to people in the production crew that Peyton probably was told,
you know what I mean, was probably told, hey, this
is what you got. You know what I mean, We're
gonna read this much in the prompter, and then you

(27:57):
got to go because we're we're tight like and you
know we're gonna squeeze other people. But Brady's got to
at least get his stuff in at the end. I'm
guessing that there was a fair amount left on the
chopping room floor. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
I wait to see their first meeting when he joins
the manning cast in the fall. Here's all the stuff
I left on the cutting room floor, so we have
that all right, So Jason, the obvious question becomes, they
had great success with this, how do you follow it up?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
And it's tough, Like I mean, you just think about
like all of the Tom Brady stuff that is unique
to him, all that winning, you know, the way it ended,
all the two different fricking gates, you know, the spy
gate and the and the deflate gate, like his celebrity buddies,

(28:47):
you know what I mean, him being so Hollywood, him
spending half his career with a house in Malibu, or
maybe even more than half of this career, like that
whole TV twelve thing, Alex Guerrero, you know what I mean.
Like like I'm just trying to think of his contemporaries,
like Big Ben. I mean, yeah, especially if it's no
holes bart oh boy, oh my gods, Like there's a

(29:10):
lot of meatle met Bon. I mean, especially in the
hands of some of those comedians, but like Drew Brees, No,
you know what I mean, Like, I'm just thinking of guys.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Oh no, I'll tell you, Jay, I think there's only
two guys. There's two guys you can roast like you
roasted Brady have this success when he's done. Lebron James
and Aaron Rodgers. Those are the two guys you can run.
Those are the only two. It's like, there's so much materials,
so many things you can get into, all kinds of
crazy things. I think those are the only two guys
you can look and say, this is the success we're

(29:39):
gonna have.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Even Lebron, though I don't think it's to the extent
of Brady, you know what I mean. Then you factor
in Giselle divorcing him and all that and picking football
literally over his family, Like I don't mean, I don't
think it rises to that level with Lebron. I mean,
how much can you get out of the decision and
how long ago was that? Think about how much of
this stuff was fresh, Like how much of this like

(30:03):
was breaking news, even the waffling retirements, Like so much
of this happened in the last I don't know, twenty
four and thirty six months. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Maybe it could be hard to top this, dude, It
just it really would, Like I don't I think it'd
be pretty tough.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking For That is at
Jason lock and for. Check him out on Odyssey Washington
post one O five seven the fan in Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
J as always buddy, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Man.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
We'll touch you next week. Maybe we'll roast you at
some point.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah yeah, I mean you can get it a solid
twenty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
See hey, Jason, Uh there goes Jason lock And for
I mean, I think Rogers and Lebron, when you talk
about having the breadth of material that you can go
in so many different directions on, I think those are
the guys.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
I don't think there's much still Lebron unless there's a
bunch that's just bubbling under the surface.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
He gets coaches fired. Yeah, he moves town to town.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
He had a I had a man purse at one point,
and that's become in vogue, so that doesn't even count.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Started with Joey Tribiani The Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Carmon Love from the tirec dot Com Studios. Yes,
we'll have more on the Knicks and the Pacers Game one,
but coming up next a debate we used to have
so much in sports, haven't had it in about twenty years,
but it looks like we're gonna have it again after
what happened tonight in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (31:24):
We'll tell you next Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Hey, Jason, the Knicks one? How you doing?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Very good? Very good? That's nice. Hey, how much do
you love the Knicks? Okay? You got that whiny guy
singing to you now where everything's coming up for you.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
There are like a very few songs from like the
vast barren wasteland of sports, which is the early aughts
that I just have such a guilty pleasure. I listened
to all the time in the car and saying this
is one of them, you know, Skater Boys, another one.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
There's very fil I'm like, oh no, no, no, this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yea yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
Is this a song by the guys that did the
did Phineas and ferb This is a simple plan. Oh okay,
it's a simple plan because there were the other guys
that bowling for soup or something.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah. There, But there were so many bands in the
aughts that sounded just like say, yeah, the whole thing.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
It's gott of like listening to pop music now sure, like, wow,
I heard the one from new one from Dua Lipa. No,
that wasn't Dua Lipa. That was that insert. Oh okay,
like my daughter's like, dad, how dare you? I'll sound
the same.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
We will have more on the Knicks and the Pacers
coming up in a few minutes, including the biggest coaching
move of the game. That's not getting enough run. But uh,
maybe Minnesota doesn't need Rudy Gobert right now. They lead
Denver forty three twenty six, six and a half to
go in the second quarter. It has been all tea

(32:55):
Wolves and yes, playing without Rudy Gobert, who was favored
to be the it's A Player of the Year again,
probably for the last time until Wenby starts winning a
bunch o congratulations, Yeah, let's go go Bear of course,
missing the game tonight because his partner had a baby
this morning. Congratulations, Rudy go Bear, congratulations, And his partner, Julia,
had a baby and he was not able to make

(33:17):
it to the game tonight because by the time the
baby came there was some weather involved apparently, which you know, okay, Uh,
they couldn't get him back in time, and really you
heard Chris Finch say, hey, I don't know how ready
he would have been to play anyway, I'm sure he's
up all night. You have the baby. So they're playing
without go Bear tonight. And it's a big deal because, hey,

(33:38):
you can go up to Zip going home and maybe
you can clinch this series.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
But you have a kid.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
This was a debate that was so hot and heavy,
like twenty years ago when this happened, when when like
Sean Green was going to potentially miss games for the
Dodgers because of the Jewish holiday, or a couple of
players who were going to miss games because they were
gonna have a kid, and and is that something you
can do that? And it became this whole huge deal.
And I'm glad that that so far, this debate, we've

(34:06):
not seen so many Rudy Gobert is letting his teammates down.
It's the worst thing in the world. It's all of
this because honestly, yeah, you have a kid, and you
have a kid, you stay with your kid. It's gonna
be a memory you have the rest of your life.
I still remember the day Zoe was born. You remember
they both your kids were born. If you had done
something else that day. What are you gonna remember?

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You can see the video of this at any time
you want to. It's what I did second game of
the series against Denver. Yes, it's a big game. I
completely understand it. But this is a life thing. That's
one of the two or three biggest moments in your life.
I mean, you're born, which is your biggest moment.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
You married, you have kids, I mean nothing, he may
not have any of that.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
May be born right, you may be born were you're born,
taxes and done, you're born right. That may be all
you do. But if you have those other stuffs, yeah,
those aren't gonna want to have.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Your wedding is your super Bowl. Your kid being born
as your super Bowl. And that's something that you can't
be a way from that. And and it was if
it's a case of listen, you're not you're you're playing,
you wouldn't be able to play.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Well.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
We understand, I mean, and I I understand, And I
see the debate already, and I'm very happy that it
hasn't been and I'm sure we have to have to
wait till tomorrow and see how this game goes. It's
he just ruined everything the tea Wolves are looking for.
They just let the nuggets and when.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
They don't get a big rebound down the stretch, or
you know, Jokic goes nuts because you didn't have another
guy to get after him defensively. Yeah, sure it's gonna
be there. It o rear it's head. You've seen a
couple of x NBA guys. I'm not going to give
their names any credit because all they do is hot
take nonsense and fire flares up into the sky. But
you know, I look, both my kids came in and

(35:40):
they were not easy circumstances, either of them, and I
can't I couldn't have imagined missing them now given the
job that I have. It wasn't a playoff basketball game
that was being decided right. It was a hey, you
know what, you'll get your column in another eight hours
or whatever I get it, or you know what, we
need to move a video shoot today, or I need

(36:00):
to do it from you know, outside of vending machine
at a hospital, A little different circumstance. So, but yeah,
there are very few things in his life that that
can ever come close to those kind of moments.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
No, and the immediate.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Thereaft and can you imagine someone that's gonna depend on
you for life, that that you will love unconditionally. Can
you imagine that story of the rest of life?

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Hey, where were you when I was born? Dad? As
a basketball game like it's from a movie.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Well I do, come or Dad, you loved your sport
more than me, and it's all the sport that pays
for everything.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Well, that's exactly it. I've been paying for your ass
for eighteen years. You're my eighteen years. You were eighteen
years I found out.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
Well, hey, that's happened a few times along the way
to Dad.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
You were never there for me. Dad, Where were you? Dad?

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Jok you knew Yokic was gonna roll over you guys?
Come on, man, name lost game one? I know all
this Dad, come on?

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Day of my birth was a metaphor for like, you're
never there. I never me up, old man.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
My knew Fincher was gonna put Karl Anthony Town's in
a better spot to that was the guy that needed
to step up a little bit to it. Not you, Dad,
Not You could have stayed where I was born to
help Mom, could have done all that.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Dad, child. Just the other day, Dad.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I know at this point Anthony Everards is already Michael Jordan,
So stop trying to tell me nobody knew what he
was gonna be. I understand that they didn't need you, Dad, Dad,
you were you know what, You're an added part.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Dad. You were at the end of your reign, the
defensive player of the year, and.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
Then the dad shoots back. Your mom and I were
just fine, and then you were an ad on.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Take Dad, and what's a defensive player that you're supposed
to do.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
He's supposed to protect you, protect You didn't protect me
at all.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Dad slammed door and any.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
And that's when then you get the commercial like on
Netflix for like you know, Paxlova or something or whatever
it is. Hey, do you want to be able to
run around in a field and not worry about hey fever?

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Well you need this.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Side effects include death, dismemberment, fingers may fall off, oh and.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
General ill health. But hey, you may be able to
run around in the field. This is awesome.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
I like the you know, you you put everything, someone's
gonna love you unconditionally, Like, I mean, that's that's the goal. Yeah,
that's what we're open for. Yea, many many of those
relationships fall short, I really want to see if this
becomes hot take theater. I really wish it would be outstanding.
If Denver comes back from this nineteen point deficit and

(38:24):
Jamal Murray actually hits a shot.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
We'll love more on this game. End of the biggest
NBA story of the night. Next nixt yo
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