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Speaker 3 (00:50):
Well.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
We have a big night tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We have NBA Playoff Action, we have NHL Playoff Action,
we have two minute reports. But I'm gonna tell you,
Mike Harmon, there's something that you know.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
As a fan, I would have not wanted to see it,
but boy, as a radio host, it would have been something.
So the Rangers and Hurricanes, all right, big series in
the NHL. Hurricanes are my team, you know how much
I can't stand the Rangers my entire life. And it's
three three, late in the third period. They're actually going
to overtime in a couple minutes, tied at three. Big
game two, Rangers up one game to none. So I'm
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watching the game in the in the in the kitchen,
we're getting ready to go here. Hurricanes had a big
shot on goal with about a minute a half left
to go, which just stork and made to say okay.
With just under a minute left in overtime and the
Rangers on a power play, ESPN cuts to the Avalanche
and the Stars like the play is going on, and
they cut to the game where it's just warm ups.
(01:46):
It's it's the Avalanche and the Stars are just skating
warm ups, and I'm going.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
What the hell, what the hell, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And you know when they finally went back to the
game after a little bit. Right now, as a fan,
I'm like, okay, nothing happen, and the Rangers didn't score.
We're gonna okay, okay, okay, But boy, party would have
loved to see you cut back to the game and
like the Rangers just celebrating a goal, like Dad scar
Let's admit, man.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm sure we could go back in the annals of
history and find a few of those moments and let's
check in. You know this game coming up next after
this one finishes, and now you know you missed the
ot goal, you missed that final minute or two of uh,
you know, added time in a soccer game. I could
just see the control room.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
What happened, what's happening was like obviously I don't know
what happened that it must have been automated, so I
can't believe anybody actually in a control room. It went
through like three or four checks of mag We ready
to go to the game. Let's go to the game.
But man, I'll tell you, for all of a sudden
in the middle of it, like action is going on
the Rangers of skating up the ice of the buck.
I'll tell you what have really been something to cut
back like twenty seconds later and in Madison Square, Garden's
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going nuts and the Rangers just celebrating. They're cutting the
way to all the fans that are at the game.
That would have really been something. Now, as a Hurricanes fan,
I would have hated it because basically the series is
a over.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
We're down to zip. Oh man, that sucks.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Why are they shaking hand? Wait a minute, what I miss?
A game is over?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I don't understand that would have been You know how
there's people that I'm sure had years taking off their
life in that control room if they're just going, don't score,
don't score, don't score, don't score, because I could just see, like, hey,
your lifespan's gonna be right bled age of ninety eight, oh,
ninety seven, ninety six, ninety five, ninety five, Jason, I.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Mean legitimately though, I mean in this age since COVID, right,
we've had a lot of things where you've been doing
a lot of broadcasts have been done off site, right,
guys off and you know, states away cost cutting measures,
plus also the pandemic and all of those things were
where folks weren't traveling, and the automation part of it.
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I would have to think someone smart enough to not
look at the call sheet going all right, we're gonna
go to this a you know, at this stroke of
six o'clock West Coast time. But I can't put it
past anybody. All right, That's what it says on the sheet.
Hit the button, because if it's automated at this point,
then then you've also got a bunch of stop gaps.
(04:18):
This is like when Homer was in the Mumu and
he had that bird that dimps and didn't press the
button properly, and then we have a nuclear meltdown. Like
you're kind of the same thing here. What happened to him?
He went out for a smoke, he had an automated
I heard.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
That really would have been something like, what has happening?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I missed it?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
How did you not see this?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I'm watching him going what the hell is going on here?
What the hell is happening? Why did they suddenly cut
to and I'm going, wait, is this game supposed to
go to in the channel?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Is this?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And then luck luckily, like you know, they rectified it,
nothing happens, so okay, but boy, that really would have
been something.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Man, that Really you have to go on to.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Game seven, nineteen ninety four against the Canucks Madison Square
Garden or whatever the hell it was going nuts when
they won the Cup. Uh huh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, you know that was what I say.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, sure, that was yeah, sure, And the garden hasn't
gone nuts since. No, no, come on, we went to
the NBA Finals in ninety nine. We went to the
NBA Finals in ninety four.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Like I said, it hasn't been allowed since we're going to.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Bill has sold out? How many guns?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, job Yeah, him and Taylor Swift. You got banners
for both of them.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
What sport does Billy Joel play? Yeah, Billy Joel plays piano.
He plays it, please the piano sport?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I had one.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
He sells that like my job. No, I go for it.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Nah, it's just we're not doing the roast today.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Guys trying to get Harmon fired.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
No, go for it.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I'll be in HR tomorrow. I'll say, yeah, no Harmon seven.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Three minutes just said, Hey, let's go, let's fire it up.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Let's I love how Jason thinks we have HR.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, No, that that got eliminated. Somebody want to tell
him we now have Fight Club instead. That's how we
adjudicate things.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So again, Hey, what where we're at right now? And oh,
by the way, yes, we do have a lot of
NBA to go through tonight. Look, no surprise in the
first game of the night. The Celtics take care of
the cap. Look, these are all series nobody cares about, right,
these are Hey, it's great, No nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Again, I was kind of excited to see, you know,
came one coming. Well just me. Yeah, maybe maybe it
was me that was fired up about it because I
went away from the chalk right when we did our picks.
You know, I said, why give me the dark horse
in Cleveland? That works. I also thought that tell Allen
that I thought he'd still be able to play, still
recovering from the re contusion that's kept him out several games.
(06:32):
Boston without your guy Chris stops porzingis the Latvian Dirk
no problem, Derek White, budding superstar. Surely all comes down to.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, look but yeah, great series. Yeah, Celtics a gonna
win that in four.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
They're gonna surround and go, Okay, we're getting the Knicks
and we're getting the Pacers. Ah, we're getting a Knicks
team that is playing all their starters forty eight minutes
a night. Now they're all gonna play more because Mitchell
Robinson's out for the playoffs after a stress injury. Now
he's out the next six to eight weeks, doesn't matter.
He's only playing eleven minutes a game anyway. Now Tims's
rotation is down to six, doesn't matter. Look, that's the series, man,
(07:06):
The entire NBA Playoffs is Nicks.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
That's it right now. Everything else is yeah, that's nice.
Oh that series is nice. Oh this is nice.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Oh it is not.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
But the Knicks, I mean, the Knicks is just so
entertaining everything. That's not just me being a Nicks but
I'm telling you, the Nicks, the Knicks Pacers is the
entire playoffs. And if the Knicks advanced, the Knick Celtics
will be the entire playoffs.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
That entertaining.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
What's gonna go? Man, that's just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I don't know how entertaining.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I didn't make the head, I didn't make the man.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But they're from New York. And because you can get
thirty seven minutes of contest in a row, in a
row of all the people sitting courtside. Man, it's like
they're swapping them out like their seat fillers. Hey, there's
these guys down there. Now.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
It's not like those counts are eighty five eighty two.
This isn't even though it seems like it's nineteen ninety six.
That come on, you're talking one twenty one, one seventeen.
There's lots of points, there's stuff going on. It's not overtime.
Just just stop. Just you got Jalen Brunton scoring forty three.
Everything is fine. It's his entertaining as a possibly be
and it's holding up the playoffs. They're like Atlas holding
up the playoffs. That's a or the fifty one fifty
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Van Halen where it's it's Jalen Brunson holding up the
entire ball of wax, which is the NBA playoffs. That's
what the NBA new logo should be. Forget about Jerry Wes,
get rid of that. Jalen Brunson on his knees with
the shoulder with the NBA logo on the world behind him.
That should be the NBA low.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, that's the one I put up for the show
with my quads holding us up long long ago. But yeah, no,
you can't deny it. I mean the appeal of New
York positive negative, and certainly people start doing random reviews
of New York in the middle of their game and
now it's like, the hell does the rats on the
(08:43):
subway track have to do with anything right now, but hey,
you know it makes for good and fodder. But yeah,
it's all about Boston and New York in terms of
the the big conversation pieces and then whatever people want
to go into the hyperbole of Anthony Edward. I mean,
that's it like that. That's where we're at right now.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Dallas, Oklahoma City, twenty five to twenty three, early in
the second quarter. We'll have more on this game coming up.
But yes, the big news today we all waited for it.
The two minute report of the final two minutes of
last night's Knicks game against the Pacers, and it basically
showed what we said it was going to show last night,
the two calls. The Pacers were most upset about the
kickball and the screen, and the NBA said, yeah, we
(09:25):
missed the kickball call, which we knew that last night.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
We knew they missed the kickball call.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And the screen was a legal screen or was an
illegal screen and calling the foul on floor was correct.
We knew that was going to be backed up because
it was The question is do you want to call
it at that time?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
How egregious is it?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
But yeah, you knew the NBA come back and say
this is yeah, this is a foul, this is an
offensive foul.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
De Vincenzo sold it. You knew that was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So once again, now that this came out, Okay, first
of all, I'm not giving the win back. The Knicks
are not giving it back. Oh you made a mistake,
We're not giving it back. I'm glad that the Pacers
spent today focusing on this. Yes, focus on the referees,
focus on what's going on, focus on that, and continue
to say, how if the kickball play had not been called,
you would have won the game, which is incorrect. You
(10:11):
would have had the ball in a tie game. Maybe
you would have scored, maybe you wouldn't have. But to
throw it out there, I see a lot of pundits
today going, yeah, it was so yeah the PADO, Yeah,
they would have had the ball with a chance to
go up by two maybe three, or maybe they don't score,
or maybe they scored. The NIXT score back and take
the lead. Like It's not like it was it was
a game deciding play. It was a play that they
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missed a call on and there was still the majority
of a minute left to play rights if that's what
you're focused. But the thing is, you can go back
and say, Okay, you missed this moving screen on Devincenzo,
all right, But when you miss this moving screen on
Miles Turner earlier, you missed this play. Let's talk about
the big ones in the final two minutes. That's like, oh,
this is what cost the Pacers to win. The screen
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on Miles should have done it right. Even Rick Carlisle said, Hey,
we can't put ourselves in that position. Okay, just ask
you oriem me. He's going to tell you what it's
all about. Hey, that moving screen call. But uh but okay,
So if you want to sit here and say, oh,
had we gotten the kickball call, because that's basically what
what a lot of Pacers are saying and boiling down to,
that had we gotten that kickball call, we would have won. No,
it's great that you think that, and it's great that
(11:14):
you think that all the referees took that out of
You're focused on the wrong things, just like Philadelphia. Philadelphia
went home in six games. I'm absolutely fine with how
the Pacers are reacting to this two minute call, to
the two minute report coming off this because again, just
like game just like Game two with the Knicks and
the Sixers, it's one call.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
That was missed.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yes, it would have been an advantage for the other team,
But did it mean they were going to win?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And just because the team says, oh, we would have
won if you had just add that call, doesn't make
it right, doesn't make that correct.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, I know the argument about it is again, let's
let's look at replay as a whole. Uh. And whether
the you know, we talk about the bizarre or whatever,
the grand poobah for the NFL that we always want
sitting up top and directing traffic, then maybe the NBA
needs the same of the Hey, you screwed that up right,
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you know, and it's a dead ball, so we can
review it, and no team should have to worry about
a challenge or whatever because you know what, you got
this wrong. We could have that discussion, but complaining about
the final forty seconds of a game playing out off
of that call or whatever was fifty two seconds at
that point. Play defense, Yeah, play defense, make a play,
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And I agree, like, obviously much different when we start backtracking,
you know, five minutes earlier or whatever. We got a
lot of possessions, a lot of time, a lot a
lot of different movements that go to it in the
final minute. I get it. It's exacerbated and you have
the dopey two minute review and report that comes out
that people can burn or whatever to get their frustrations out.
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But it ain't changing anything and it never will. And
by letter of the law, at twelve seconds, guess what
Miles Turner had? A moving screen? Was it a soft
moving screen?
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I think we can all agree to that that You've
let that play go probably forty times over the court
the game. Hell, in the in the Western Conference, you
certainly saw it time and again, guys getting thrown all
over the place of looking for calls, which is part
of the reason Jamal Murray started just throwing stuff at people.
But it was just you know, if you call it
in that moment, letter of the law, that's the foul.
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Sorry it was inside the final minute.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, I look, there's a ton of game, all right,
there's fifty two seconds left. How many more possessions are there,
how many more shots, how many more back and forth
are there?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
But like, oh, yeah, that call, I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
They missed the call, and you know, I'm being truthful
because what happened when the Nicks got screwed at the
end of game At the end of game five, what
did I say, Hey, yeah, Josh Hart was not out
of bounds, should have been in bounds. Other foul should
have been called that didn't get called. You know what, Yeah,
we didn't make plays. We blew the game, right, I
didn't complain about the officiating then, and for come ten
down to one call that's missed the last minute. Yes,
it is too bad. It would have given the Pacers
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the ball. But stop thinking and acting like the game
was over. Like we would have gone in for a dunk,
then what would have happened. We would have stole the
inbound pass and what then we would have dunked again?
Then what would have happened? Just all the inbound pass
again and then what happened to be dedunked again. I mean,
that's what the Pacers want you to think, Like, oh
fifty two is that games over? Games over at that point,
And that's just stupid.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
You know, the Pacers have scored eight points in seven
seconds before, right, you.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Know Frostburg, you know you know I can key your
car eight times in seven seconds I can do Frostburg.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You know. It's a very special anniversary in the NBA today.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Oh, it's a huge one, Mike, and you know what,
we're gonna do it next.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
No, we don't have any We don't have the audio
we have the audio for really.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, it's been scrubbed out of the system. I'm sorry.
We don't have it.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Oh, not only do we have it.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
No, it's an HD. No we don't.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Oh. Wow. Oh you know what.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
No, you'll wear it next. It's no, no, you know what.
It's good that we're going to talk about this.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Because I'm going to tell you how overrated the guy
involved in this his entire career was, and he owes
his entire stardom to this play against the Knicks. Okay,
we'll get to that. Yeah, I'm glad we're gonna do this. Oh,
I'm glad we gonna do this.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah. If you have hated in your heart, let it out.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I'm just I'm wow, dude, I'm just being realistic here, body.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
You have worn this for nearly thirty years. That's been jesty.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
New York Go, New York tooy we get talking.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
On air therapn session. Now, good lord, we.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Know I hold up the choke sign to him, Mike, No, no, no,
we'll get We'll get to that coming up net. Yeah,
because I want to get in. Let's get into it.
That's next right here, Jason and Mike.
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It is The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
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Oklahoma City, Leeds, Dallas, thirty six thirty three, seven minutes
to go on the second quarter. Yes, we could be
on the verge of potentially seeing a t Wolves Thunder
Western Conference Finals. Just like we all drew it up
the two teams. Nobody had any confidence in the top
(16:19):
two teams. Oh, the Nuggets will beat that, they'll beat that,
They'll be nore.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
It looks like we might wind up getting the Thunder
and the t Wolves.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Those upstart t Wolves came out swinging. Get ready, all right,
that's the first round of a boxing match that you
got your ass kicked. You got back to the corner
of the bell rang to save you, and you said,
what the hell are we doing out there? Either that
or you get on the you know, get in the
middle of the ring and start yelling at the referee
like you're Michael Malone.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Get Ready, Anthony Edwards and Shi Gildess, Alexander. It's the
new it's gonna be the new NBA rivalry. Everybody's wondering
who it's gonna be new rivals Zion and Jada. Nope,
get ready for Anthony Edwards and Shot Gildas Alexand because
if they face off, it's happening.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
It's absolutely happening.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Chet gets to be the corner man.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, Chet's got a role. I mean, but
he's like he's a supporting role. But I mean because
Check's too interesting. But that's the best part is that
usually the best supporting actor, best supporting actress is the
most enjoyable when they're nominated, they're the most enjoyable part
of the movie. So okay, like you can enjoy Check.
But hey, you know, clear, let's realize the rivalry and
the MVP guys are SGA and Aunt Edwards.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Let me come on that.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, and normally I look at the Postion said they
put the wrong guy up there just because that was
the guy that got the bigger check to sign on.
That guy can't act.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Chet will be.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
He's just a pretty boy.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Chet will be just fine. Now we are, of course,
And now I'm gonna stress free day right here, because
you know, no Knicks Pacers Game two until tomorrow. It's
all my stresses for the Rangers and the Hurricanes. Hurricanes
tied three to three midway through the first overtime.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
So it's a.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Stress free day, and it's a good day to break down.
A guy that's going to take center stage over the
next twenty four hours, and that's Reggie Miller, all right,
anti broadcaster, longtime TNT broadcaster, NBA superstar made some big
headlines ahead of Game two. But first, let's commemorate. I
don't want to say celebrate. Let's commemorate the twenty ninth
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anniversary of this Miller.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
For three and he got it. Reggie Miller with a.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
Clutch tray and it's one O five, one oh two
and a steal. Miller retreats to the three point nine
tied game.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Reggi Miller tied the game with.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Thirteen seconds from eting.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Reggie Miller made a free, stole the ball, race.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Behind the three point line and hit again.
Speaker 10 (18:40):
Miller's gonna make it a three. He sets the screen,
he steps behind, makes the first jumper on the hit,
bad pass. Reg Anthony stumbles and wait.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
There's more Jensen.
Speaker 9 (18:51):
For only the second time in sixteen games here at
the Garden, and against the New York Knicks, Indiana has
reached one hundred points.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
They won the other time.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Maybe this will be the magic.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Number for them here as well.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
Read Indiana's win a Game one at Orlando last year.
Nailed our hits too, No timeout, no Anthony Halls.
Speaker 9 (19:18):
Time was.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Oh NBA radio, A young bill. Listen to Bill Walton
talking so much clearer and Conciser back in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Oh yes, yeah, Greg as part of that play too,
another broadcaster of these playoffs.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yes, the anniversary of Reggie Miller's fourteen points in three
seconds against the Knicks and ninety five playoffs. It turned
a ten point deficit into a twenty point win for Indiana. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
happy anniversary. I still can't believe it. And I you know,
this is where Spike Lee has to own up and
go you motivated the guy. I mean, look, it's the
big moment of Reggie Miller's career.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And you made Cheryl's little brother.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, oh you say that to his face, although he's
gonna forget about that after what I say about him
in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
So that's just a warm up.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Twenty nine year anniversary and Reggie Miller returns to the
scene of the crime tomorrow as he's broadcasting the game.
I had big deal. He's going to be back at MSG.
He's doing the game, he's very excited. Made an appearance
on The Dan Patrick Show and he talked about it
and very excited to come back to MSG. Embracing it,
embraces all of this, what's going on with the Knicks
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and the Pacers who met six times in the playoffs
in the nineties, Like every year they met, they split
the series. The Knicks won three times, the Pacers won
three times. It was a lot of fun. And now
you got Reggie Miller getting set for tomorrow and you
had a big, wide ranging interview with Dan Patrick talking
about many things about how oh hey, yeah, this was great,
and I had this back and forth with Spike Lee
and I made up with Spike Lee and all of this,
(20:56):
and then he had a big warning.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Did he confirm or deny whether he went to a
strip club? Nick Kramer?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Uh No, that was not part of the interview. I
think Dan left that uh.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Out that it was actually in it.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
But but here is Reggie Miller shouting out a warning
to Knicks fans for tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
The Bogie Man is coming back.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Starks will be there at at the game, like you
actually had a physical conference and you and John Stark's okay.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I haven't seen Johnny boy in a lot, so he'll
be there. Trial.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Uh bring them all, Patrick, Do you think I care
about any of them?
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Well, you're not going to mess with you, and you
you you're like Patrick he's a good guy.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
You're not gonna mess with. I could easily make a
call and get something.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
No chance Oakley's allowed in that game.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
He ain't even allowed in the arena.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Well, no, Ewing they'll allow, and Oakley they won't.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But you saw what he You know, you guys talked
about what Oakley said the other day, right, you know,
saying how Jalen Brunson is the best Nick since Clyde Fridge.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah yeah, wait a minute later, Hang on a second.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So does he have beef with Patrick Ewing? We don't
know about, and he's.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Just trying to get his seats back. He's got beef
with a lot of people, I think. But here's the thing, Like, Okay,
I'm glad Reggie Miller is leaning into this and the
Boogeyman is coming back because it's fun. Right, Reggie Miller
has been fun and this whole thing with the Knicks
has been fun. But let's be realistic. Okay, Reggie Miller
was a fun player and he was a pretty good shooter,
but he is completely overrated for his career. Okay, whoa
(22:32):
whoa Reggie Miller. Let me ask you this, yes or no?
Did Reggie Miller for his career average more or less
than twenty points a game. Yeah, eighteen points a game,
Reggie Miller. Okay, Reggie Miller was the sixteenth leading scorer
of the nineties.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Hey, he's still in the top ten all time in
three point shots made. Yeah, that's what I've been told that.
You know, Steph Curry and those guys changed the game,
so all of these guys would be a radicate.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, Reggie Miller scored twenty a game. Yes, it's the nineties,
the NBA is a little bit different era, but it's
not like he was going a little bit different. You
still saw Jordan score in thirty five a game. You
saw a lot of Yeah, but he was a mutty
five a game. Used to again, the sixteenth best scorer
of the nine Bernard King averaged more points per game.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Okay, they needed someone to score for the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Reggie Miller's entire career was made by this run right
here with the Knicks. This little twelve points and two seconds.
That's his entire career. That's all anybody talks about with him.
That's the only shining moment he has was that moment.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
That's it. That's the only thing.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
He's gone, hey, hey, we all should strive for one
shining moment.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
But we have this image that Reggie Miller saw. No,
Reggie Miller was a pretty good shooter. Was he great?
I don't know he was great. I think he was.
He was arrogant, he was cocky, and he cut through,
and he was a guy you paid attention to. He
was polarizing, right, which was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You like guys who were polarizing and guys who weren't.
And Reggie, but Reggie Miller was not a guy that
lit up the scoreboard every single time out. He was
not that guy, right, He wasn't. And and you can
can you tell me anything else, any other play from
his career other than what he did in the garden
with with the with Spike Lee and and the three
and eight points nine seconds, No, there's nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Else Football Hall of Fame. He's got two.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, well that's two. That's two.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That but that's also two championships that he has. Reggie
Miller's got no championship.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
So there's that. Yeah, well, okay, And and and not
for the Hoosiers under poppy nights.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Is entire or the fever alongside Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That's a whole other story. Again.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
His whole career and his stardom and what he's been
able to do all comes from that game, the rivalry
with Spike Lee, beating the Knicks in that game and
being the guy that scored the eight points and nine seconds.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That's Reggie Miller's entire career. It is amped up because
of that. It's not that Reggie Miller wasn't a good play.
Reggie Miller was a good player. I'm not saying he wasn't.
But Reggie Miller wasn't this Oh my goodness, he's he
was stay Curry back at He wasn't.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
He wasn't. He was overrated. He owes the Knicks for.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Everything he's got, because everything he's got because this brought
such a huge level of stardom for him, and it's
the only thing that anybody talks about with him. Just
understand that for Reggie mirr a little bit, that that's
that this play is really his whole career. And you
listen to him on Dan Patrick, He's so excited. Oh yeah,
I'll talk about this. I don't care bring all the time.
It's the greatest moment of my career. It was a
(25:24):
playoff game that we won in the middle of his series. Yes, great,
it was heartbreaking for the Knicks. And I still see
him stealing the ball and dribbling back out behind the three.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
What are you doing dribbling back by the three point? No,
because I can make it from there.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, great, I can still see it. It was painful,
It was awful. But at the same time, I mean,
that's it. That's the guy's career. Of course he would
he would do. He would do appearances with the Knicks
players and sign autographs for fifty bucks. A shot of
him making that or him yelling with Spike Lee. That's
his whole career. His whole stardom is built off of
that with the Knicks. So let's say clear with Reggie Miller.
(25:56):
He's basically Captain America for that moment though.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
The cat No, but.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
That's just it. He's lived ren free in your head
for twenty nine years. So now just because you got
Game one out of the way and you stole a win,
now now you're all chesty and you're you're taking this
guy's career five time All Stars just being o.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Look it happened twenty nine years ago, it sucked.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yes, it's part of nick lore, but it's not something
I think about a whole a whole bat. I bet
your Reggie Miller thinks about it every single day. He
wakes up and probably hits play and says, computer play
my highlight, and they play that highlight and he sees it.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Hey, I'm ready to attack the day. And he has coffee,
gets up and ready to go and man.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
To that, I'm ready. I'm ready, dude, As I say
all the time, if you can find your wins in life, man,
if that's the thing that's going to motivate you to
get through, as long as you ain't hurting anybody else
except the feelings of Knicks fans, Because I can tell
I bet you still chapping your ass all these years later.
He's cross first dates that's it.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Every day wakes up, watches the high every.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Day wakes up a reminder of how great I was
for that moment.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Alexa, play Reggie Miller eight points and nine seconds against
the place, playing Reggie Miller eight points and nine seconds
once again for you, Reggie, good morning every day at
that you.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Know what Reggie hows and no other NBA great house
what is that eight points and seven.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Cents that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I think Tyres Maxie might have done that in the
uh in game five and not like that. He might
have man, but that No, But that's Reggie. I'm glad
he's leaning into it. It's his whole career. His whole
career boils down to that. That's that's what he's known for. That,
that's what it is. Okay, great Outside of that, you
would say, Reggie Miller, Yeah, what do you remember from
his career.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
It's pretty good shooter. Yeah, yeah, he liked to talk. Yeah, uh, okay,
but his numbers got to be pretty good.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
He was eighteen three and three for his career. Uh yeah.
It was a different era.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, but still you had a lot of guys scoring
more than twenty points a game, more than twenty two
points a game, which is more twenty one whatever he
average in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
He had a lot of guys doing that. I think
mock mod ab.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Dul Rouse scored more points per game in the in
the nineteen nineties, Regi Miller and Reggie Miller was a
shooting guard. Okay, just job to score and he that's
what he put up on the board. I mean, come on, man, dude,
his whole career he owes everything to the next.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Look at you. You got the artist formally known as
Chris Jackson in.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
The show, he owes everything to be.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
All right, Let's see between the eighty nine ninety season,
ninety eight ninety nine season. All right, start going through
a tough guy as to because I see between that
period he was two for he's seventh.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
You are You're not. You're not looking at anything correct between.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Eighty nine ninety and ninety eight ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Hang ONU by dat mus I did it today. I
got it right here, and he is sixteenth. I'm like,
he is sixteenth with points per game in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
That's interesting because I got him seventh.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I think you're on something wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Malone, Jordan Ewing, Robinson, Mitch Richmond, Hakima, Elaijuan and Reggie Miller.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I think you're looking at one year. His computers not
plugged in. I think your computer's not plugged Okay, Creed,
I think you're ear Did you.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Fact check Kim Frostburg? Normally I'm feder at the math
part than him.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
You're on a wrong page.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I don't know what page you're on, but you're on
a wrong Eighteen three and three is not really hall
of fame.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I don't no, it's the probe. It's it's that Natesmith
basketball Hall of Fame. If we lobby hard enough, one
of the three of us might get in.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
But for those eight seconds, he's a Hall of famer.
In my eyes, it's an all.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Time great that way.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I'm on nineteen ninety scoring leaders number one. It's goes
Jordan Malone, O'Neill, Robinson, Ewing, Elijah On, Iverson Wilkins, Mitch
Richmond is on that.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Like I said, I gave you Mitch Richmond.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Barkley, King Bird, Duncan, Raheem Robinson, Miller.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
And Jenna Jamison.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
It all stop. But that's too.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Soon sixteen thousand plus.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Too soon, too soon for you too, sixteenth sixteenth, Regie Miller.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I just gave it some specificity time. That's a that's
will byte numbers, Maith.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Come on, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon live from the tire
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Speaker 4 (30:05):
Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You want to know the effect Caitlin Clark has already
had on the WNBA without playing a game. Wait'll we
tell you what happened today? That's next right here, Jason
and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (30:27):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon Live from the tirag dot com Studios. Rangers
Hurricanes going to double overtime, tied to three apiece. Meanwhile,
Mavericks and the Thunder also in a break at halftime.
The Thunder lead the Mavericks sixty two point fifty three.
(30:47):
The game was a back and forth struggle for a while,
but then the Thunder pull away at halftime. Here and
again we could be very close to a Thunder t
Wolves Western Conference Finals. Shai Gildess Alexander nineteen points in
twenty minutes, leading the way for Oklahoma City. But you
want to say, oh, Caitlin Clark, what kind of impact
(31:09):
is she really going to have in the WNBA?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
What she got.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Without even playing a game. She changed the fortunes of
the league today. Okay, right before she played her first
preseason game, right Indiana's play was her first game. There
was a viral video of her in the airport as
they were flying. You know, there were Pete fans waiting
(31:32):
for her at the game when she played her first
game when they played Dallas, and there were fans in
the airport, and it came up. Yeah, a little weird
because WNBA flies commercial. It's kind of weird flying commercial.
They've flown commercial since the beginning of time, since the
beginning of this league. They have flown commercial beginning of
the league. One viral video of Caitlin Clark showing up
(31:54):
and you see fans are right here, they can walk
right up to coming off. Players say, hey, wait a minute,
you know it's really not that safe. Really all be
flying charter today. The story breaks the w n B
A will fly all their team's charter by the within
the next few months. They got to figure out planes
and figure out money, so they're they're getting it going forward.
But in the next few months now, all the teams
are gonna fly charter. So tell me again how Caitlin
(32:16):
Clark is not changing things and showing up to the
w NBA like she's magic and Larry rolled into one
all just a viral video of her in the airport.
Hey this is dangerous. Oh guess what she got. She
already got charter travel for everybody in the league. Okay,
just think about that. Yes, there's other players that are
that that are important. You saw the the desire to
(32:37):
watch Angel Reese's first game because the person who was
able to stream it got like two hundred thousand views.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
There was no TV dumb was that? Because that that
leads you to a lot of question though.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Who the hell look?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
And that's the thing is and and that's the whole
point about this is that, Yes, the number one is,
look at what Caitlin Clark is already doing. She got
charter travel already because of one viral video. Everybody should
be behind. There should be no backlash because she's bringing
this league into the twenty first century. Now, the other
part of it is this is that hey, and this
(33:09):
is a big piece of advice, like I gotta tell
a WNBA and you guys gotta stop looking minor league now, man,
you gotta stop looking minor league where where everything that
comes up, it's like it's like sports from that's either
double a baseball, Right. You can't have the two biggest
headlines of opening week with Caitlin Clark and Angel rees
playing where The biggest two headlines are yes, we still
(33:30):
fly commercial and oh, no one could see the games
on TV. Yeah, you can see them on our app.
But we didn't make these games readily available to anyone
when clearly there was a market for it, and any
one of a number of national sports networks would have
picked up Caitlin Clark's first game, Angel Reese's first game.
There's a market out there for it. You can't look
so minor league. And that's the big that's the big
(33:51):
concern I have is that we're getting into the league.
There's a lot of eyeballs people are gonna be watching
these games. There's only another game or two in the
preseason before they wind up kicking it off, and you
have the Olympics coming up this summer. You cannot look
so minor league. And right now I look at the
WNBA and I go, wow, that's minor league. Wow, that's
minor league. How do you not work around the clock
(34:13):
to fix this image right now? Because that's my main concern.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Well, because the thing you've seen since tickets went on sale,
since the draft, since the production of jerseys, and all
the estimate estimations of how long it's going to be
before those are actually fulfilled. All of that. You've just
seen this, this has grown quite quickly, and all the
veteran players, you saw the how quickly they got cameras
(34:37):
in their faces to get a reaction. Most of them
were kind of speechless because they don't want to owe
the success and this opportunity to the arrival of Caitlin
Clark and this rookie class. But here we are. They're
estimating twenty five million a year for the security and
flights and whatever else, and the broadcast rights are up
next year. What else have we heard? Well, tickets go
(34:59):
on sale and what happen and they sell out very quickly.
In Los Angeles, her first appearance here is now going
to be at Crypto right now, going to be at
the crypt Versus. It was supposed to be down I
think at the Pyramid. So it was gonna be what five.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Hours till next week, Mike, it'll be at the Rose Bull.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Could be before it's all said, none, all of a sudden,
it's not an air aircraft carrier off the shore here.
I don't know, but yeah, it's absolutely true. Like we've
seen city after city going, oh wow, the demand's really there.
And we can sell at twenty thirty bucks ahead plus
concessions plus parking. Everybody's seeing the dollar signs. They actually
just need to sit in a room and get the
(35:35):
decision makers to be a little more forward thinking as
opposed to reactionary.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I mean, you have to realize that now now is
the time to say, Okay, we have more eyeballs, honest
than any other time we've ever had. We got to
look like we know what we're doing. We gotta look
like we know how to run a major sport, because
right now the first two headlines are you gotta know
that they do. Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
It's a pretty good stream that that woman had from
mid court. I mean that was good.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, that was pretty Just hold the phone steady, Hold
it steady so I can watch.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Let me see those hearts, Let me see those hearts.
So I'm gonna turn the feet off. Coming up next,
we got.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Another big story out of the NFL. Somebody else is
upset about Tom Brady's roast Fox Fox Sports Radio, The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend, Mike Harmon and TJ.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
When more than one seagull comes together, it's a flock
of Seaguels TJ.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Right now in.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
The NBA.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Oklahoma City in Dallas, Thunder maintaining that eleven point lead
over the MAVs right now, four and a half to
go in the third quarter. Again, we are steaming towards
a Thunder Minnesota Timberwolves Western Conference Finals. But joining us
now in the hot life for all the big news
in Major League Baseball and a guy that really has
to understand he really screwed me tonight. It's MLB Network
(36:55):
insider extraordinary, John Paul Morosi. He is on Twitter at
John Morosi JP. You are doing your normal spring double
duty covering the NHL Playoffs re NHL Network. You are
in the building right now at Madison Square Garden. You
did not bring my Hurricanes to win tonight, So we're
gonna have words now after this.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
Jason, My apologies, my friend, my apologies. What I can
tell you is that the Madison Square Garden technical crew
as we speak is getting set for Game two of
the Knicks Pacers series, and it really is one of
the unique things in American sports to be sitting here
(37:37):
in the most famous arena in the world and actually
watch as it begins. The transition already to a basketball
game happening less than twenty four hours from now. It's
pretty extraordinary to be here in New York at this time.
And you're right. You think about the scene and the
way the Rangers won this game. Hurricanes said two power
(37:59):
plays in overtime did not score, and Jason, I thought
that it. Had the Canes scored, I would have been
able to describe you as the only fan that I
know who stood up and cheered when John Franco was
shown on the scoreboards. And at the end of a
(38:19):
Hurricane's victory, you have been the Venn diagram of those
populations is a one of one. You know, Mike, We've
always known Jason is unique. But this night and this
result would have capped that off.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, A Nix up, one zip the Mets. One tonight
you would have the Hurricanes winning. I would say, it's
not going to get any better than this.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
It's not going to get any better, my goodness.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
I tell you what though. Vincent Trocheck, the former Saginaw
Spirit star from the Ontario Hockey League in my home
state of Michigan, he's the hero tonight. He led all
skaters with more than thirty three minutes played time on
I switched. For those not as familiar with hockey statistics,
(39:00):
that's a lot, especially for a center. So he is
one of the best conditioned athletes we've got going right
now in any sport in our country. And Vincent Trocheck's
the hero here tonight.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Got to say, a really impressive job by you to
get the game to end just in time to make
your usual hit with us today. Yeah, I really really
good job by you to get it to a finish.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
It was minutes I was I was texting justin for
furiously thinking to myself, how am I going to make
this work? In between overtime periods. I was already having
to plan out my MLB Central segments that are going
to happen in about eight hours when I'm on morning TV,
and I said to myself, how am I going to
do this? How am I do I have to? Will
(39:42):
I be calling in from New Jersey transit, which, by
the way, I have to figure out if I can
even get back to Jersey tonight. So that's the second
part of my If anybody has any good transit tips.
But the good news is, you know, while I am
from a small town in Michigan. Jason, I do believe.
I do believe the trip from Madison Square Gardens through
(40:03):
this train station is a close one. As in downstairs,
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Yeah, yeah, you're good. Frank the Tank will take you.
Just get Frank the Tank.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
He's happy. The Mets one, he'll he'll take you back
and where we're stay, New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Hey go.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I wanted to ask you this, Pope, because a big
viral moment from this game, and it doesn't matter if
you're a hockey fan or not. With a minute left
to go in regulation, Rangers are on a power play.
ESPN dumped out of the feet of the game and
went to the Stars game, and for thirty seconds it
was pregame of the Stars, and the announcers are talking,
(40:37):
it's what happened, what happened, And they luckily avoided a
real Heidi moment by getting back to the Rangers and
the Hurricanes game with about twenty five seconds left. Does
anybody know about that? There are they talking about that
at the game? That the whole big the feed dumped
out and went to a different game for like the
last thirty seconds of the last minute of regulation.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
But I became aware of this through the magic of
social I'm not sure how many folks here we're aware
of it. I'm sure obviously our our colleagues at ESPN
are by now well aware of it. But it's it's
an interesting moment because there's there is somebody. There is
somebody in a room, and this is true of all
(41:16):
networks everywhere, sitting in master control at a keyboard that
decides what's going out over the network. And that's a
very important job. And about ninety nine point nine percent
of the time, no one even realizes that it's a
job because it just happens seamlessly. But every now and then,
(41:37):
and sometimes when there's a power play in the five
minute of regulation in the stetic a playoff game, the
wrong button is pressed and then there tends to be
an executive who says, wait a minute, what's going on
over the air? This This does happen sometimes in TV.
It's not great, and I suppose ESPN was saved by
(41:59):
their not being a goal there, and that it wasn't
it didn't become the defining story of the way that
America watched this classic Stundy Cup playoffs game. But it
is amazing. It is amazing that even in these in
these times where we talk and debates so much right
about streaming and where how we get our television out,
(42:20):
how it's consumed, But there is still someone in a room,
in this case in bristolkticut with a bump the sides
on television and uh and if anybody ever wondered if
linear television still mattered, if anybody's still watching, well after
tonight we can say confidently people are still.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Watching John Morosi with us here at Jason Smith's show
with Mike Harman, live Fromthetirack dot Com Studios, MLB Network,
NHL Network. He's there at the garden watching the transformation
after a Rangers victory, and now it'll switch to the
Knicks in twenty four hours. Catch him on Twitter at
John Morosi, Joan an M R O S I A
(43:02):
lot of talk. Obviously Otani rules today, but Yamamoto and Imanaga,
a couple of Japanese pitchers making the scene. Let's go
to Chicago with the Cubs five wins and a one
point zero eight e r A JP. I mean, you
talk about instant impact for a squad.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
Really impressive, and the Cubs are in a good spot
and it's not just because of I Monaga, but by
the way, let's start with him, because I think coming in,
you know, he does not have the same pure stuff
that Yamamoto does. He's there's a reason why his nickname
is the pitching Philosopher. He's more. He pitches more with
I think his his mentality, his ability to locate, and
(43:43):
and obviously we're seeing right now that that it plays
that he has success in the major leagues. Well, you
cannot have a one point a d r A now
into your second month as a rookie just by accident.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
I mean, he is.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
He is a special, special arm. They just got Bellinger back.
Michael Bush was the hero tonight. They acquired him in
a deal from the Los Angeles Dodgers. So the Cubs
after last year was certainly ended with disappointment change the manager.
They now I think are in a really good position
in a pretty competitive NL Central. But I just think
(44:17):
Imonaga and Yamamoto. Listen, they're showing all MLB teams that
there is an incredible amount of talent in Japanese pro baseball.
And I know in my conversations with scouts they're going
there multiple times a year to look at the talent
there agents we know are trying to line up who's
going to represent Roki Sasaki, who's going to represent the
(44:39):
next generation of great Japanese pitching stars. Clearly, the developmental
mentality and path that we're seeing among the top end
of Japanese pitchers is very appealing, and certainly I think
that we as American baseball folks, when you think about
the amount of injuries and attrition that we have in
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pitching here in Major League Baseball, we've got a lot
to learn. I think from the way that the Japanese
baseball culture is developing pitchers and we're seeing the result
we now we, broadly speaking, people who watch Major League
Baseball are the beneficiaries of what a great job Nipon
Professional Baseball is doing of developing pitchers.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Now, Pope, your big game this week, You're on Thursday.
You make the change. While while Madison.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Square Garden changing over from the ice to the hardcourt,
you'll be changing over from the NHL playoffs back to
the baseball play Do.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
You have suits that you wear like do you have
to change over like that?
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Like you have Hey, this is a hockey suit and
tie that I wear that have baseball suit and TAZ
do you do that change over when you go.
Speaker 7 (45:43):
Yeah, that's a great question. There are things I would
say this you'll probably I'm thinking about tomorrow morning. I
haven't really thought about this too deeply. My plan is
for tomorrow morning to be in my baby blue suit
on MLB Central. That doesn't really play as well for
an indoor night time sport. Okay, you gotta have. I think,
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in my opinion, hockey's more of a dark suit vibe
as always what I've felt, So that's probably what I'll
up doing tomorrow. But for studio you can do the
lighter shuit. Look, now, this is all secondhand. I'm just
giving this advice from my wife, like I do with
most things in my life. But that's generally how I
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will do things. But yeah, it's not as though I
have like a home uniform road uniform. But I'm still
very much trying to get my fashion game going. As
you know, I am a father of three who drives
a minivan, so there is a fairly firm limit on
how cool I could be at any given day.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
All right, well, let's deal with the game then, because
you'll be cool by giving us your take on this
Yankees have won four in a row, tied for first
place in the AL East, the Astros twelve and twenty three,
last place in the AL West.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
Three straight.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Law says, is this the real Yankees? And is this
the real Astros?
Speaker 7 (47:05):
Yes? I believe yes. And yet now Dana Brown was
on MLB Network today saying to Brian Kenney on MLB
Now that he does not expect to be a seller
at the deadline, that this team is too talented for
them to become sellers. And I think that there is
plenty of anecdotal and observational information to suggest that Dana's
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correct in that, just because of how good that team
has been for a long time. But look at their
record right now. Tomorrow night, They've got Spencer Arraghetti on
the mound. He's got an eight point two seven ERA
as a young starting pitcher against the mighty Yankee lineup
Thursday in the game that we have on MLB Network,
it's a really good pitching matchup. Blanco Ronel Blanco threw
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an hit earlier this year against Marcus Stroman, who's been
really good since coming in to the Yankees. And remember,
the Yankees are playing really well, even though Aaron judge
didn't really have have a judge in April, and Garrett
Cole hasn't even thrown a major league pitch yet this season.
So the Yankees are a really good ball club. Rizzo
has been excellent, and the Astros Jose Brad who's down
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in the minor league trying to regain it and find
his form again. There there is, in my opinion, there
is an expiration date on even the greatest and most
enduring of dynasty. Now, there is certainly an asterisk on
the Astros, but they've made the Alcs seven years in
a row, and that's not an accident. I mean, certainly
there's there's a lot of success during that time. Yeah,
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Verlander five innings, seven earned tonight, And yes, again parenthetically
there were there were certainly some aberrational years to the
very least during the beginning part of that reign. But
it's been a while since since our awareness was was
arrived at concerning the stealing scandal. They've been good for
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a long time. They're not really good right now. They
are not, And to your point, as you remark along
those lines, there will probably not be profound amounts of
tears shed should this be the demise of the Astros
dynasty as we know them. I will add, though, that
back in two thousand and five, the front page of
the Houston Chronicle declared the Astros season to be dead.
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They actually had a tombstone on the front page of
the paper saying the Astros season had died, and they
went on to make the World Series that year. So
we should be a little careful. But I agree with
you there. They have earned the records they've gotten right now.
They have not been unlucky. They've been a pretty bad
baseball team.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Well, thanks for bringing that positivity to the White Sox.
As that starting staff ran through them. That's like a hot.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
Knight through Butter covered that World Series. I was there, Mike.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Now speaking of the White Sox, not about them, but
about a team that just dominated them from pillar to post.
Are the Twins any good or was it just a
function of playing the White Sox a lot in a
three weeks period. The Twins are good.
Speaker 7 (49:58):
Check out the Twins record since Kepler has regained and
rejoined that lineup. He is, in my opinion, a a
game changing player. Length is their lineup out a lot?
They've had some injuries. Royce Lewis Carlos Correa. But I
think that their pitching has really stabilized a lot the
last couple of weeks. Chris Paddock has been really good.
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They're they're a good ball club. Now. They lost tonight
to the Mariners, so maybe they're They're glad Tidings are
drawing to a close a little bit, and they're in
a very winnable division in the AL Central that right
now they're running second place behind the Cleveland Guardians two
and a half games back. They're a good team, not
a great team, but a good team. And I think
in this division it probably will be won by a
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good team, not a great team. The Guardians are off
to an excellent start, the Royals have been competitive. The
Tigers are still there because of how good uh their
their starting rotation has been. But I tend to think
the White Sox mic it is. It is not going
to be a short journey for them to get back
into this Uh No.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
No, they're terribles, which is why I didn't ask about them.
Speaker 7 (51:01):
Yeah, there, they're in it for they're in it for
the long haul. But I I do I do like
the Twins. They're better than I thought their bullpen is
very good. Nice mix of righty's and lefties. Uh, Duran
O kirts really good back there. They've they've got a
good group of relievers. So in a winnable division, I
like the Twins probably right now, would still still lean
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towards the Guardians as the most oppressive team at this
point in time, but the Twins have impressed me.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah. Jp, I'm looking forward to football season and whoever
the Blackhawks selects second overall.
Speaker 7 (51:35):
Yes, that's a great that's a great question, you know,
I we we know number one is matt On Celebritis
of the Sharks. We could we could go with that
right now, but I'm not sure who number two is
gonna be. That's a very very interesting question.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
Asked John. But gross apparently he knows he's.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Got the script.
Speaker 7 (51:53):
I I saw that.
Speaker 9 (51:54):
I did, I did.
Speaker 7 (51:56):
I caught window of that on the interwebs today as well.
It's been a very interesting day in hockey Twitter. I
would say he's on.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Twitter at John Morosi, that is, at John Morosi MLB
Network Insider, NHL Network Insider. It is double duty time
in the spring for John.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
Paul Pope. Thanks so much, buddy. We'll talk to you
next week. Have fun, My pleasure.
Speaker 7 (52:15):
Gavin Lux. By the way, congrats, first homer of the
year for the great native of the state of Wisconsin.
How about that.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
I got our geography lesson to the day now.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
I think Pope made somebody happy. Y'all mention Gavin Lux's
home run for I'll mention it for you.