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Jason and Mike tell you why Gisele is really upset about the Tom Brady roast. The WNBA needs to thank Caitlin Clark after announcing that they’ll begin providing full-time chartered flights to all teams this season. And Reggie Miller is embracing being the Knicks "boogeyman”

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Speaker 2 (00:55):
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Speaker 4 (00:55):
We'll have more NBA coming up in a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
But I'm still stunned, and I'm happy, and I'm happy
for Netflix because you know they needed it.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
The Tom Brady Roast is.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Still garnering headlines forty eight hours after it aired. All Right,
this shows you the place it holds right now in
pop culture with us that after the success of it,
the next day was owned by all the roastmasters making
appearances everywhere. Jeffrey Ross was did a bunch of radio

(01:28):
shows saying that no, no, no, Brady was only kidding
with me when he said, don't make a massage joke
with Bob Kraft. And and we watched a Nicky Glazer
do a couple of interviews saying, hey, the only thing
we decided was not to bring up the children because
they didn't want to be part of it. And you know,
she's you know, gained a lot of attention off of this.
Look everybody was terrific. Sure, and still you see it
because it just shows you again the part it owns

(01:50):
in pop culture. And then today we get the story that,
according to many sources, Giselle Bunchen is upset about the roast.
She was not happy with the jokes that went out there,
and statement, according to her sources, that she just wants
to look out for her kids because she felt that
this was some material that was thrown out there that

(02:12):
was inappropriate. And now she's standing up and saying, wait
a minute, was this was bad This shouldn't have happened.
She's disappointed that Tom Brady did the roast and and
wanted to get this out there on the record. That boy,
she can't believe that tom Brady agreed to do this. Now,
there's a lot to get to with this, but let
me just say the first thing here. Okay, stop for
one second. Stop with them hiding behind Oh that the child.

(02:35):
I'm worried about the children.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Children.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
What about the children? Do it for the children, you
know what I say. I'm pretty sure that I didn't
even know if they were officially divorced yet. Maybe they were,
but it could be either either was before or right after.
There were pictures of Giselle bunchin on vacation with her
jiu jitsu boyfriend with their kids. There were pap rots photos,

(03:00):
they were all over. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was
out there that that that they were on vacation all
together and she didn't want her kids to even what
does she think was gonna happen? Okay, the kids weren't
involved in this at all. She's a public figure. People
are gonna say what they say about public figures. It happens,
did she is she going out? She upset with the

(03:22):
late night hosts for all the jokes they made about
their divorce. Is she upset with the tabloids that that
are putting out stories about their divorce. Oh, by the way,
the tabloids getting the pictures of Giselle moving on from
her relationship with Brady and living her quote best life.
Clearly there's one person who seeked out the cameras following
the divorce because she wanted people to know, Hey, I'm

(03:42):
moving on, because I've not seen one picture of Tom
Brady with Arena Shake or Kim Kardashian or whoever else
it is, But I've seen all kinds of stuff with
Gizelle Bunched and her Jiu jitsu instructor again with their family.
So I look at at at Giselle Bunch and I go,
this is just stupid. She's just being ridiculous because she's
mad that the jokes went over so well. She's mad

(04:03):
that people are talking about it and that the jokes,
you know, she was the butt end of the joker.
She was the punchline, and she just wants to try
to find a way to gain a little bit of
traction on this and gain a little bit of relevancy
as all, Hey, this was bad, I'm above it. I
want to get some good publicity on this because I
can't stand the fact that everybody is laughing at jokes
and they're at my expense.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I think it's kind of funny. You go back in
the recent history, she showed up on Jimmy Fallon and
the Tonight Show. You know who. The other guest was,
Wayne Brady. I think they had fun with that booking.
Here's Wayne Brady and now here's Joselle Bunching. I don't
know that anything was asked about anything there that you know,

(04:44):
relating to this, because that's generally not how Fallon would roll.
But you know that this said had long been announced, right,
They'd been giving tickets away and working to build an
audience there at the Forum for months, so not exactly
a surprise that this was coming on. As you say,
everything had been laid out on her side in the tabloids.
And those people aren't there by accident, all right, they're

(05:07):
tipped off. Hey she's gonna be out, gonna be out
and about, and she made this. You know, then they're
not doing the Norad tracker and stuff. That's you know
some inside info as to where they're gonna be and
how they're gonna be. And you know, they always seem
to know where the cameras are.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, when they're in Costa Rica or somewhere here. She
is riding a horse on a beach. Really, how is
how is that? If they don't figure that out? You know, look,
there's there's winning the divorce and and clearly everybody wants
to do that right when you when you're married, you
break up, you want to win the breakup. You want
to win the divorce. Yeah, just like the breakup with

(05:43):
Vince Wan and Jennifer Anders And you want to win
the breakup. You want to show that you are moving on.
And clearly that was Giselle Bunschin' strategy from the beginning.
She was the first one that we saw of the two. Hey,
she's dating her jiu jitsu instructor, which, wow, someone that
you knew while you were married to your husband, who
your husband took lessons from. So while you were happily married,

(06:05):
this guy was in your life and now you are
dating him. I don't think any joke that Kevin Hart
or Nikki Glazer or whoever else made on the special
is something so awful that your children, Oh what happened here?

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, I think everybody knows what's going on. Right.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
The kids also aren't five years old. No, they're not
where you know like all of this. I'm assuming they
all have technology and stuff at their disposal, so they've seen,
they've heard, and if they were interested in all it
showed up. I can't imagine they did all the blocking
anything having to do with Brady Bunch and et cetera. Hey,

(06:42):
I can't even search for the family name. I can't
even fill out a form for school. So you know,
they're keenly aware of everything that's going on in this
process and how their famous family has been discussed in
and around also media.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
You can't give me a I'm just a simple I'm
just a simple person trying to trying to make trying
to make ends meet. Right, it's Brady and bunching, Right,
they did they did the documentary about Brady's life with
his kids. I mean, you can't just sit here and say, oh,
then now, I'm just trying to you know, I'm trying
to make ends meet, and I'm trying to know you're
a public figure. People say things about public figures. And

(07:21):
if you're not upset with what this is, this is
just how it goes. And I mean to say, I
get it. She's just mad. She's just mad that that
all the jokes were out there, everybody's laughing about them.
I'm sure she's got text messages and she's on social media.
All the jokes about Giselle were really good, and all
the different jokes and the one, the one roast master
made about Dana White, why Dana White was there?

Speaker 4 (07:42):
It was just, oh my goodness, what's upset about that? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Could your kids wind up asking you about it? Yeah,
sure it could happen. But do you really think this
wasn't like you said? Was this not a conversation?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Was this sudding? Oh? Hey, I got a roast coming
up on Sunday night, might want to watch? Wait?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
What?

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah, sorry, I gotta go by.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Uh Now, this is out there and and and and
you can find anything and anything can be said about
someone who was a public figure. So I failed to
find that the outcry here except the fact that she
was embarrassed and she was looking to find some kind
of footing where she can get some kind of good
publicity off of this. Because basically, you know, look, she
was the punchline, one of the big punchlines of the roast.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, in the end, it's the you can be mad, right,
you can be disappointed, you know, whatever the right term
is going to be it. But this history has been
played out in public in so many ways, and as
we said, like you've made a living in the public,

(08:42):
eye model and philanthropy, Brady's wife, all of this stuff,
you've lived in public, and you've done plenty of the
the drops, as we said. You know, I guess that's
you and I having lived in la as long as
we have, knowing you know, in a night show, some
of the reality shows how the sausage is made. Hey,

(09:03):
you know, this guy just happened to be here. No, no,
they got tipped off that the guy was gonna meet
up for a sandwich. I mean remember when you ran in,
who was a John Lovetz that time? Sure he would
have loved for TMZ Tour of us to roll up
on him, you know what I mean, Like those kind
of things happen all the time. Oh, he just happened
to be leaving this restaurant as people are there with

(09:24):
their five thousand dollars cameras, so all of that goes
on time and time again. So yeah, you could be
upset and disappointed as they say, this too shall pass.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, look, I mean this is Look, it's more oxygen
for the roast. Like, Honestly, if I'm Gizelle, Okay, it happened,
let's just let it go right, let the best Sometimes
and sometimes that's a hard thing to do, right because
especially if you're someone like Gizelle that I'm sure is
hearing from when you hear from your friends, you hear
from your agent, you hear from your manager, Oh that's

(09:56):
messed up. That should never happen. You should have not
done that to you, not done this. He didn't say anything.
All his backups were all about everybody else, so he
didn't say anything like So it's sometimes the hardest thing
to do is to say nothing. And she just and
and you know, this has come out through sources close
to Jazell, which is a way for her to get
this out there without it being directly from her. But

(10:19):
this is something where I know it sucks if I
feel bad about it, but you just have to kind
of let it go because.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
They feel bad though I don't feel no, no, no, no, no, No,
I don't feel.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
What I'm saying is if you feel bad about this
or whatever, but you have to just you know, Okay,
I gotta let.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
It go yet about it.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm not even gonna talk about it, right, I lower
yourself to it. I can see, Hey, we want to talk. No,
I'm not going to do an interview. I'm not going
to talk about that, but to but to get out
there that, oh, I'm upset about this because all you're
doing is bringing up everything again because she does not
because it's a Brady roast, and of course things are
gonna be pro Brady while they're anti Jazel, even though
Brady's getting roasted for it. You know, yeah, what I'm

(10:56):
saying like, it's still everything's pro Brady even though the
jokes on Brady, but the really joke is about Gazelle.
Because it's a roast, everybody gets it. So I know
that that's a kind of a weird way to look
at it. But if you're Gizelle and you see this, okay,
you know what it was, It's going to be gone
in a day or so. I just have to ignore
it and not get back at this, and I get it.

(11:16):
Sometimes it's hard saying nothing. But sometimes saying nothing is
the right thing, and that was the right thing here.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, you know the old song, you say it best
when you say nothing at all. This also from the
people right up of this, The source added Giselle was tireless,
tyler tire lists. I can't even say it. Tireless, tirelessly, tirelessly. Yes,
very dedicated to wow, struggling, dedicated to eiding those in
her home state of Rio Grande des soul brasil Uh

(11:44):
grappling with the worst flooding in its history. So concerned
about the family affected by the floods. So to hear
her life being joked about was very disappointing.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, and another way, that's another word to bring up.
Here's something important that you do, which is great, which
is important, doing great things? Absolutely, why, like and Brady's
doing a roast, you know, like I'm doing this and
Brady's doing her revo. It's all about it's all about
trying to win. It's all about trying to win. And
clearly there is still a big battle between the two
of them of winning the breakup and winning this relationship,

(12:14):
and they're still going. They're both very competitive, as you
can tell, and I'm not saying, look, I know what
happened in the relationship. I don't know what happened in
the relationship, but I know how it's being treated from
the public eye. And I know that Giselle Bunchin is
trying to more visibly win the breakup than Brady was,
and what she did right after all the pictures out there,
making sure that pictures of her when she was modeling

(12:36):
her out there. Brady is putting video up once in
a while with him retiring on a beach. Oh okay,
I guess that happened. And again no pictures of him
with the women he's been linked with, after pictures of
Gizelle with her boyfriend. So I mean, this is just
the way it's going. And everybody fights that battle a
little bit differently, And you would have to say that
right now, if you're talking about publicly, Brady is fighting

(12:57):
the battle a little bit better than Jaesel Bunching is.
Doesn't mean one's more right than the other. It just
means that Brady's fighting the battle a little bit more,
a little bit better publicly. And really, the way to
look at this if I'm just old, but if I'm worried.
I just if the kids are about to say, talk
to your dad. You know, look, talk to your dad.
If you're upset about this. You've heard about this that
you gotta talk to your dad. Talk to your dad.
None of this is new. None of this is something

(13:18):
they could find the punchline if they wanted. They could not.
I mean it, she's a public figure. It's different when
you're a public figure. And that should have been the response.
I have no response. But if the kids are upset,
talk to him about it, because he's the one that
did it. Hit You talked to him and you see
what he has to say to you about that.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, one last thing you brought up. Hey, there aren't
a lot of photos, details, whatever, a lot of rumors
about people that Brady's been involved with, and certainly they
alluded to that a couple of times over the course
of the night, including the appearance of Kim Kardashian there.
I was pretty astounded that many folks, even here in
local media in LA had no idea that those rumors

(13:57):
even existed. Yeah, yeah, wait, what it's like, No, that
didn't happen. We would have heard about him. No, you
should have heard about it. Like that. That actually was
a pretty big deal for about a week. It showed
up quite quite frequently. Uh, and then non denial denials
and whatever came out of it. But but here we are.
It's you know, the you know, living in public versus

(14:19):
still keeping some things behind the scenes.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
And I'm pretty sure it's Gizziel.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
It's Gizzy Light.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
That was painful, the extent he went to trying to
pronounce her name.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Like, okay, get it, Okay, let's oh ball Oprah.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
That was a complete It's not quite that bad, but yeah,
what I get it?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
You?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
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Speaker 4 (16:08):
So we're getting set for game two tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
We are Knicks and the Pacers, and there's a big
anniverse who we're gonna get to coming up in a
couple of seconds. But first let's get into the big
news tonight. I mean listen, Yes, Oklahoma City thump Dallas. Okay,
we knew that was coming. Boston thumped Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
That's all you need to know, right, Okay, We're we're good.
Hockey games are good, Yes, exactly Yeah. Great.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
But the two minute report for the Nick Sixers Game
one came out and much like the two minute report
for Game two, I'm sorry the Knicks and the Pacers,
much like the report for game two of the Knicks
and the Sixers, with all these bad fowls that were
calling all these things that happened the final minute against
the seventy six ers. Yeah, the one thing they didn't
call was yes, they should have called a foul on

(16:55):
the inbounds, right.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
That was the big thing, and the Sixers went with
the stratug geff. Had they just done that, we would
have won the game, even though there were still thirty
seconds left in the game. They would have to make
free throws and hold the Knicks back. But they wanted
to look at that and say, we would have won
the game if that was the case. Now, certainly they
would have had a big advantage. It would have been
up potentially by five, but they still had a lot

(17:18):
of game left to navigate. Now, fast forward to today,
where the two minute report came out. All the things
that were missing the final two minutes and what do
we see The two big things the kickball that was
not called last night that the officials even said after
the game, Hey, we blew that right kickball play with
fifty two seconds left in the game. It should have
been the Pacers ball, but we missed that. The offensive

(17:40):
foul call on Miles Turner upheld, Hey, and we play
the officials made the right call on calling the offensive
foul on Turner and that was the correct call, so
that was upheld. So basically, all of the Pacers who
decided to get really mouthy about it over the course
of the past twenty four hours, all this I can't
wait for the two minute report after what happened, this

(18:02):
was taken away from us. It really comes down to
the fact that yes, they got screwed on the kickball call,
and just like the Sixers, they want you to think
that the game was over and they would have won
if they got the ball, when what the reality is
is that they would have had the ball with fifty
two seconds left in a tie game. Tell me how
that translates to the Pacers winning the game. They may

(18:24):
have gotten a fast break layup, they may have not
gotten any points on that. They may have pulled it
back because the Knicks did have a couple of defenders
that would have gone back. Maybe they score, maybe they don't,
maybe they get a bucket. The Knicks hit a three.
You're trying to tell me that that one play fifty
two is Had you called it that way, we would
have won. That's exactly what the Pacers want you to think.
And that's just wrong. No matter how many times they

(18:45):
say it, that's just wrong. There were still so many
plays left that had to transpire in the game. But
they want to focus on that, And I say, you
know it, great because I watched the Sixers focus on
that and they went home in six games. I'm watching
the Indiana Pacers focus on the officiating. Great, you're gonna
go home in six games are less two. So there
we go. You really want you really want to say
that that play ruined you and you lost the game.
That's just stupid because it didn't. And you know, being

(19:08):
realistic with this, And this is how I feel because
when the Knicks got screwed at the end of Game five,
what did I say.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I don't care if they got the Josh Hart play wrong.
I don't care if they got the Jalen Brunson play wrong.
The Knicks made a lot of mistakes. It shouldn't have
been there, and they lost the game and they blew
it right, So I'm that way, right. I tell you
about how the officiating is and where it is, and
what the most most important calls are and other calls
you can come by from. You can make excuses all
you want to, But now I've watched the Sixers make
incredible amount of excuses in the series that they went

(19:35):
home for, and now I'm watching the Pacers make an
incredible amount of excuses already for a series it's only
one game old.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, at least their coach kind of went down the
right path, Carlisle. Of the things they need to clean up,
because there's certainly plenty.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Jim carri.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's pretty good, very much, Jim Carreyah, okay, lay.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
A fire Marshall Bill impression while we're at it.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Every god dare a minute show up in an orange
suit dribbling the ball up the floor and someone says
that all goes off your knee and it doesn't, it
went off your head.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Wow, that was uh guy from UH with a really
annoying voice. No, that's the way, not too long ago. No,
that No, that was funny.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Gilbert Godfrey, Now, Gilbert Godfreed, is this Why would you
not call a foul when clearly it went off an
Indiana player's head.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
It did not go off his leg.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I saw it, and I and I couldn't even see
out of my eyes because when I yell, I squint
so much no one even knows what I'm doing. That
would be I thought you were gonna say because you
were dead?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
No?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Wow, Why would you have to bring up the fact
that he did?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Why why are you gotta go.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
There was dark?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Come on, man, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You already said it like Frostburg opened.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Conversation, but you didn't need to want to reinforceiation in here.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
He's dead. And in case you missed that with Frostburg,
I want to remind you he's dead.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, I didn't know which punchline you were going for. Remember,
I am recovering from a stroke off. The word tirelessly.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, that word did give you a lot of difficulty psychologically.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I'm a little shattered after that.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
One tirelessly one Harmon zero. I think Harmon needs more
cow Bell and Reggie Miller highlights.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Probably a little more of that, but you know it
opens up the discussion again of what are we reviewing,
what are we not, you know, just the bigger picture
of the NBA, like we do with the NFL all
the time, like what's a take and how deep into
a game, into a playoff run do we need to
be for there to be substantive changes as to how
we evaluate these processes. Right, They've got to go play defense.

(21:41):
That's the bottom line. There's still fifty two seconds left
in the game. You can relitigate a lot of it. Yes,
it then went straight into it Devincenzo three. But again,
you got to play defense. And you have multiple possessions
a couple that, you have the turnovers, you have the
turner moving screen call that comes in the folks were

(22:02):
mad about. It's like, hey, letter of the law, that's
a foul and that certainly didn't get overturned in the
two minute report or anything. For folks to continue to
be mad about that. You gotta go win the game.
Right at that point, it's fifty two seconds left, it's
a tie ballgame. Go to work.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
So there's your two minute report, and most importantly, I'm
not giving the winback no matter what. Two minute Partly
that's great Nicks one pacer zero. Okay, that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
But again, that's what it always comes down to. You know,
we can argue it and discuss what was what wasn't called,
and we get into the moving screens and different points
of the game and stuff that gets overturned because for me,
it's again the larger thing out officiating of all right,
what does it take to get something over overturned? Right,
we talked about it last night. Again it's third quarter,

(22:52):
but the bronze and file that gets overturned, I'm like,
I still don't understand how you can watch that play
and tell me that that you're not have been a fall.
But but that's where we're at with officiating, and we
can do this constantly. Two minute report. All it does
is give you something that you know in the office
you want to throw into the fireplace.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Foster, to tie this series up. You wait to Lee
get He'll get a sign. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Don't worry when the series is two nothing, Nicks, He'll
get a sign of that game an India.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Not a beach somewhere.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
He's waiting.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
He's like, you know, he's telling he's like one of
those guys like you know, they can call me at
any moment. I gotta be ready to go when that
when that bad phone rings, I have to go. Sorry, baby,
I know we could have had a great time, but
I gotta go. I gotta make sure that they call
me the extender for a reason. I gotta get the
Pacers back in this series of the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Right now, I get it.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I gotta have my legs, so you're gonna have to
leave me alone because you know, women weekend.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Now there is a bright light for the Pacers because
they're gonna have a big time edition in the building
tomorrow night. And it just so happens it it's the
person who celebrated a very big anniversary, the twenty ninth
anniversary of this play today.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Miller for three and he got it.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Reggie Miller with a clutch tray and.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's one O five, one oh two and a steal.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Miller retakes to the three point line, hits again.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Three tied game y J.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Miller is tied the game with thirteen seconds of mating.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Reggie Miller made a three stole the ball race behind
the three point line and hit a game. Miller's gonna
make a three steps the screen, he steps behind, makes
the first jumper.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
I'll be in bad pass with Greg Anthony stumbles.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
For only the second time in sixteen games here at
the Garden and against the New York Knicks, Indiana has
reached one hundred points.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
They won the other time.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Maybe this will be the magic number for them here
as well.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
That's like Indiana's winning Game one at Orlando last year.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Meilt our hips too, don't you so?

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
NBN NBC hooray. Twenty nine years ago today, Reggie Miller
eight points and nine seconds at the end of a
playoff game against the Knicks. It's lived in infamy. His
his back and forth choking with Spike Lee. Look, it's
it's one of the most famous plays in NBA history
and the biggest moment of his career. Now he's actually

(25:23):
going to be there tomorrow because he's on the broadcast
for the game for TNT, and he appeared on The
Dan Patrick Show earlier today saying, oo.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Michael Myers is coming to MSG, the Moogie.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Man is coming back.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Starks will be there at the game, like you actually
had a physical conference you and John Stark's Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I haven't seen Johnny Bloy in a what so he'll
be there. Bring it.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
So this is him enjoying his rival with the Knicks, which,
let me tell you the first thing before I really
tell you, uh, let me tell you the first thing
about this is that, look, it's cool. It's cool that
he's embracing this. He says, Hey, if anybody wants to
come back, youing in Oakley and all these guys.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, it's great, it's great. It's great. It's great.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, it's great. Because let's be honest about Reggie Miller.
Reggie Miller had a really good career. Reggie Miller was overrated. Okay,
Reggie Miller played in the nineties all right, where it
wasn't quite open offensively. But this is a guy who
didn't even average twenty points a game for his career.
Right in his heyday, he was averaging twenty one points

(26:32):
a game. He was the sixteenth highest scorer in the nineties.
He had the sixteenth most points per game in the
nineties at twenty one. Bernard King was ahead of him,
mac Munabduomararof was ahead of him, and there were still
guys averaging twenty five, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty, thirty, one,
thirty three. Jordan was at thirty three or thirty four.
Reggie Miller had a really good career. He was polarizing

(26:55):
and Indiana's in the playoffs a lot, and that's why
Reggie Miller got a lot of runing Cheryl Miller's brother.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
There was just a moment for him.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
But everything he's done, everything after his career, he owes
all of it to that play with the Knicks. He
owes everything he's done, and the celebrity has to that
play because without it, Reggie Miller would have been a
quite anonymous kind of star player, very very good player,
because there's no other moments in his career you talk about.
There's no other boy. He did this, He did this,

(27:24):
he did this. Reggie Miller was very good. Was he great?
Was he one of the great? No again, twenty one
points a game, all right for his career, eighteen points
a game, twenty one in his a day. But if
he didn't have this moment, he wouldn't be the guy
he is now. But everybody points back to this. Everybody
knows Reggie Miller, Spike Lee. It's why Reggie is so
into this as oh yeah, yeah, I want to see

(27:45):
all the Knicks guys. Of course he does because it
makes him relevant, because it's twenty nine years ago and
it's the only moment he had.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
He is overrated on the.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Floor, and he owes everything to this one moment, these
eight points and nine seconds against the New York That's Reggie.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Miller, something that will never be done again. And you celebrate,
You find your wins where you can. If not you.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Remember it, Yeah, it's eight point nine seconds nine.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
But the point being that, you know, we all hope
to be remembered for something good, not like screwing up
the word tirelessly, uh, for the rest of our lives.
So for twenty nine years he's been able to trade
on it. I'd say that's pretty damn good. I also
found where you and I were arguing about, uh, well,
kind of the same thing. Before you were going points
per game. I was just going full points scored in

(28:36):
a decade. So that's where we have the disparity. But
for Reggie Miller, I mean, he had a good run, right,
five All Star teams, was on a couple of All
defense squads, showed some some good two way play.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
He was a shooting guard and he scored eighteen a game, like, yeah,
very good. He was very good.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
But and in the NBA that gets you into the
Hall of It.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
But Jason Cole is it, Why am I catching?

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Why? Why?

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Why I'm catching straight from you guys.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
But Reggie Miller was very good, and he was polarizing,
and he was fun and he still is fun.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
And it happened against the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
He owes the Knicks stage, he owes the NIXT.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Look, the Knix and Pacers played every year in the
playoffs for the nineties. That's why Reggie Miller was famous.
The Knicks in the playoffs, so it was a big deal, right,
they played. They each of them won three times. So
it's not like one of them got the better of
the other. Knicks beat the Pacers three times, Pacers beat
the Knicks three times. But REGGI, Reggie Miller owes the
Knicks for everything he has, his reputation, his images, post

(29:35):
career career as a broadcaster. He owes them everything, because
without that, it's yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Reggie Miller was great. Reggie Okay, maybe maybe he's a Okay,
this is the everything, everything he owns he owes to
the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
But It takes is one or two moments to make
you a legend, right, I mean, Carmelo Anthony, he's now
dismissed as a Knick, but you'll always have that championship
they bought at Syracuse.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Of course, because that was a championship.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
But the point is it's one moment in time that's
agin Reggie Miller and this and this was a championship moment. No,
because it lives forever because it's a record setting how
many points? How much time?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Frostburg eight point nine? Yeah, eight and eight point nine,
which he didn't think would be possible, but it was
not nine Jason, Okay, okay, sorry, no rounding up in this, Yes,
sorry about that. He owes the Knicks everything. I just
I just want him to do it, to acknowledge that
tomorrow when he does the game. Hey New York, I
love you guy. Hey, thanks for everything you know, all

(30:37):
my houses, all my cars, everything I have I know
to you. Thank you, Spike, Lee stand up, Spike, Thanks
so much, buddy. I appreciate that everything I have thanks
to you. That's great.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Finally, have a great night in the u c l A.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the
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more basketball. You're not gonna believe what one superstar has
done for their game today by just walking through an airport.
That's next, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
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Speaker 1 (31:15):
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Speaker 4 (31:20):
Big night in Basketball.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well, if you're a winning team, not so much your
losing team because games weren't close, Uh, but you wanted
to had the biggest day in basketball. Who was able
to influence an entire league just by walking through an airport?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Because it was just a week or so ago on
the day of her WNBA preseason debut that a viral
moment happened of her walking through the airport. Is you know,
Indiana went to play their first game against Dallas, very
big deal, and you know there's people in the airport
coming up to her and you can see, you know,
luckily she's got people around her because you.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Know WNBA they fly commercial. This gets out.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
This video goes viral, and then there becomes the big
push of hey, this really is is wrong. You know,
we shouldn't be flying commercial, we should be playing flying charter.
I don't understand the WNBA has flown commercial since the
league began, right because obviously the league has. You know,
when you talk about money, it's making this is a
big expense. One video of Caitlin Clark in an airport

(32:22):
goes viral, and the questions about the safety of the
players as they're brought through very public places. One video
goes viral, and what happens today The WNBA announces that
they are going to begin charter flights for all.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Teams this season.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Now it's not gonna begin right away because they have
to procure the planes and get everything set, but they
are gonna have now charter flights for all teams all
season long. This is a twenty five million dollar or
so expense. This is Caitlin Clark's impact. But she's not
gonna She's not gonna have an impact. She's having the
Magic and Larry impact on the WNBA. She did a

(33:00):
video of her walking through the airport. Now suddenly everybody's
gonna get on charter flights every single person in the WNBA.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
You have to get behind Caitlin Clark because she is
making things happen for the league more than anybody else
in the history of the league. No backbiting, No, I
don't get no jealousy.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
She is the one. She is Shack.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
She is Kareem and Magic and Michael and all rolled
into one. Things aren't happening.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Because of her.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
This all happened because of one viral video in an
airport for Caitlin Clark, and.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Now you have you have charter travel.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Nobody has an impact like this and she hasn't even
played her first regular season game yet.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
No, I mean the impact has been felt all over.
I watched a bunch of react videos from people that
have been in the league, a lot of skin in
the game, and I haven't seen from some of the
folks that were previously, you know, wondering about her her
level of play once she got to the WNBA. But
a lot of the reactions I was looking at Alicia Clark.

(34:03):
She's got three titles and whenever she just had this
wide eyed stare in the middle of an interview like wait,
they're doing what? Like really, It's like so the excitement
they're you know, talking about, then the natural extension as well,
the quality of play will be better. The stressors are
are gone from some of the security and just timing
and everything. Right, we've always seen the well they were

(34:25):
delayed and they got in late at night and whatever
else that happens with commercial you're going to have those issues,
So that goes away. It also shows the level of
a bullishness around the product and the money they expect
not only to flow short term from sponsorships, patches and
all that other stuff, but feeling in a really good

(34:46):
place when they go to negotiate rights for television purposes
in the next year. Right, not just on an app
that may or may not have your team, but now
you start really being able to monetize this in a
whole other way. And you've seen it in ticket sales.
Right in Los Angeles they announced that they're moving the
game to the crypt because they had so much demand,
and we've seen that from a couple of other locales

(35:10):
as well. When this net comes to town, you know,
you don't need a five thousand seed arena. We need
to go a little bit bigger. Do we have any
schedule conflicts. How do we make this work? Now? Everybody's
printing money, so smile, you know, the old rising tide
lifts all boats. Let's go now.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
And this gets into what the real big question is.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
The big fear I have for the WNBA is that
since the draft. Okay, the two biggest headlines the league
has had is, hey, you know, yeah, the players were
flying commercial not a great look.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
We got to change that.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
And oh sorry, but we know there was a market
for Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese's game, which wound up
getting streamed by a woman who got two hundred thousand
people watching it because there was no television nationally for
these games. There's a market for these games. And you say, oh, well, yeah,
the games are available on the app. Oh, by the way,
only one was available on the app, Caitland Clark's game.

(36:05):
And clearly there's a market for all of this. How
did you not find a way to get these games
on national TV?

Speaker 4 (36:11):
This is this is my thing? Is that? Boy?

Speaker 1 (36:13):
The more the Caitlin Clark that does for the league,
the more it seems like you're just operating like it's
a minor league thing. This is like single a ball
And maybe in baseball, like you gotta be on top
of stuff more like charter travel and making sure people
can see the games on television like this, Like I
look at the front office a WNBA and the big
decision makers and I go, are you guys up for this?

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Like is this too much for you?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Because so far since she came into the league, it
feels like you're not ready for this and you're not
ready to help take this league to a level that
you've wanted to be at for so long. You have
Caitlin Clark and she is here to do it. And
the first two headlines have been yeah, we're not ready. Yeah,
oh yeah, the whole DA that's embarrassing with the commuter flights.
Oh yeah, boy, Sorry, we have the games ready for
people to watch. We didn't know people are gonna want

(36:56):
to watch exhibition games. People are ready to watch.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
I don't get it, And I wonder if the WNBA
and their current leadership is up to it.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Well, they had what over two hundred thousand views live
of that you know, live shot by a fan, so
you know, recognizing market opportunity. Look, I criticized the sky
for Angel Reese's press conference, right for her and Cardoso
and their first press conference, it was like it was

(37:25):
the back end of the local VFW hall. Having worked
at a VFW hall, I owe, you know, some early
experience and customer service brilliant to that. But it didn't
look like it was made. Like as much as we've
talked about the Caitlin Clark and Doyle getting suspended and
whatever else, I mean, that felt like a big press conference.
Angel Reese walked in like all right, and there's a

(37:47):
couple of folding chairs, there's a folding table, and there's
a banner at mid court. That's it. That's all we
got telling you man.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Hopefully the WNBA is up for this. I know Ben
Mallers up next.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
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